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The Grammys & Catherine O'Hara Are Delicious w/ Auntie Mel · The Delicious Culture with Jon Francois

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Hey, delishies, grab a plate and taste the delicious
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culture. I'm your host, Jon François. We have
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a great set of pop culture meals coming up this
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week. We're talking about the recent Grammy Awards,
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and hopefully we'll have time to pay tribute
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to the wonderful Catherine O 'Hara. Digesting
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these pop culture meals with me this week is
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Mel. Mel, a wonderful host of Auntie Mel Mel,
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Life Unfiltered. Great podcast. I got a chance
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to listen to it on Spotify earlier today. It
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is a judgment -free Real Talk podcast. Mel is
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also a work -from -home professional wife. Oh,
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I'm sorry. I'm trying to read as best as possible
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what you gave me, Mel. Mel is also a work -from
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-home professional wife, auntie, and a proud
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cat mom. How many cats do you have, Mel? Two.
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I have a 12 -year -old cat female. And then in
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October, we adopted a five -week -old kitten.
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So it's been an adjustment. They're finally getting
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along, so. I love that. My wife and I... We have
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two cats as well. We have five dogs. So it's
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definitely a full house. Blame my wife because
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when I met her like five and a half years ago,
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she was a vet tech. She still is a veterinary
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technician. She's the president of a dog rescue.
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So going from like, Hey, nice to meet you, Tony.
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Here's my one dog. And then all of a sudden I
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get used to a full house of animals over the
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course of our relationship. Yeah. vet tech, you
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always accumulate a lot of animals. Yeah, yeah.
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And look, credit to her for making it work because
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people will give me that look about like, oh
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my God, that must be overwhelming having that
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many dogs and cats. And I'm like, no, all praise
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to my wife. She knows how to make sure everybody's
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on their best behavior. So I give her all the
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credit. I love animal people. Yeah, absolutely.
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So before we get into our pop culture meals,
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Mel, I want to start off with an actual favorite
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meal that we both had. this week. So what about
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you? What was your favorite meal this week? Actually,
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I'm typically an Italian lover. I love pasta.
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I love all things pasta. That's my weakness.
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And one reason I'll probably always be plus size
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is that I can't stay away from pasta. Yeah. Can
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I tell you, you and I are in sync. We should
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be best friends because I'm a sucker for anything
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pasta, garlic bread. I've told my wife, Toni,
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over and over again, Italy to go there, to visit
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there, to go where authentic Italian food is.
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That is a big dream of mine. So I love it. So
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you just had pasta this week. Is that what you're
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saying? Um, I did, but I actually had, I actually
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had a chance yesterday to try the Jersey Mike's
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new hot Italian sub. And that was absolutely
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amazing. So it has ham, pepperoni, salami, and
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then they're hot pepper relish on it. It's really
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good. So that's delicious. Yeah. I've picked
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up a few door dash deliveries when I used to
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do that part of driving for work from Jersey
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Mike's and the food always smells amazing. I
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would say, I don't know if Quiznos, is Quiznos
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still in business? I don't think so around here.
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I live in a rural. area, but we used to have
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Quizno. Wait, wait, same here. I live in Vermont.
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Where do you live? I live in Ohio in a town about
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2 ,500 people. My town of Richford has 1 ,000
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people. So I got to buy that. Yeah. We have one
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stop light. I always explain to people there's
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one stop light. We have one grocery store, one
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dollar general and two gas stations. We have
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a McDonald's on the subway. If you can count
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the streetlights, the stores, the gas stations,
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then you know you live in a very small town.
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But I would say Jersey Mike's gives places like
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Quiznos and especially Subway a run for its money.
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So I am not surprised that you like the Italian
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stuff. I think that's fantastic. My wife, as
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far as my favorite meal. My wife made a wonderful
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casserole where it's like chicken and peas and
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there's like a creamy sauce associated with it.
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And on top, here's the kicker. It's like this
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really crunchy, bready crust that is so good.
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I don't know if she has a name for it. She needs
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to tell me that when I see her later tonight.
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Yeah, I'm going to call it creamy chicken pea
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bread crusty casserole. I like that. That's how
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I cook. I just throw things together. When I
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was younger, I had a casserole dish. Similar
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to that, we called it stoner pie. Um, it was
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just all kinds of random things thrown together.
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So, but that's how I cook too. And I made a big
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pot of chili this weekend. That's a family staple.
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So. Oh God. So what's in the stoner pie? I'm
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curious. What kind of. It is Salisbury steak,
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mixed vegetables and macaroni and cheese. And
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then you use all the gravy from it and cook it
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all together in a casserole. So that is fantastic.
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It was when I was like 20 though. So that's my
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party days. So that was just kind of leftovers
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thrown together. became a staple with all my
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friends. What about the chili? What's in that
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family chili? Family chili is Italian sausage,
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hamburger meat. I use dark kidney beans and light
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kidney beans. I always get chili seasoning, crushed
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tomatoes and whole tomatoes. And I always add
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sweet onions and tri -colored peppers. Oh my
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God. And I bet you that's like a really delicious
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filling thing that's great for the winter time.
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How are the winters in Ohio? Is it also? Horrible.
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We've been like negative 20. I think the other
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morning was negative 20 degrees out. We got 11
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inches of snow the last weekend or the weekend
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before. So yeah, we're in it right now. Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Here in Vermont, same thing.
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I mean, we had a few years. We had a few years
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of mild winter, but last year and this year it's
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been very wintery. Snow literally started the
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first week of November. As early as December,
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we had temperatures down in the negatives. And
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usually that doesn't happen until like January.
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February, if it's to a point where eight degrees
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to me feels like a comfortable springtime 30,
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that's wintery. Right. Yeah. On our news this
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morning, it was 20 something yesterday. So everybody
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said they were enjoying it because everyone was
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taking their dogs back and stuff because we have
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been so negative. So yeah, you have people in
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like a warmer climate, such as Florida or whatever,
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and they're like chilly at like 70 degrees. And
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meanwhile, like I'm literally texting my wife
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like, oh my God, it's nearly 30 degrees. I really
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want to go for a walk today. Oh my god. Yeah.
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All right. Well, five, five more months of winter.
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I think that's, I think that's what, that's what
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Puckstotty basically said. Yeah. You never know
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either too. So yeah, we get snow and stuff all
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the way through April, sometimes random May.
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So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For, for, for me, I always
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say like first week of May, like once first week
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of May passes, then we could probably start talking
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about spring. All right, let's get to the Grammys,
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our first of hopefully two popcorn meals in this
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episode. Let's start off with Trevor Noah's monologue.
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What did you think about his monologue? It was
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interesting. He has some really good jabs in
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there, some really good points, but he also tripped
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up a lot. I was confused by a couple of his things
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that he said, but overall, I think he did a good
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job with it. But which moment did you notice
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that he tripped up on? I can't recall the exact
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moment. I watched a lot of the pre -ceremony
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and he was having trouble in the pre -ceremony,
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so I don't know if I was just getting his jitters
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out there. Um, there was a couple of things that
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he was stumbling on, but once we got to the actual
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Grammys, it was pretty smooth. So I know he flubbed
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and it was like a minor flub. It's not like he
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tripped up his words just a little bit on the
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Jeff Bezos joke when he's like, when he's working
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the room of celebrities and he was saying something
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like, let me see if I could get, oh, here we
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go. Yeah. This entire room of celebrities reminds
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me of Jeff Bezos wedding, but with more black
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people like. Uh, so he tripped up his words just
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a little bit going into the punchline, but otherwise
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I thought it was a great pointed joke. I thought,
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yeah, yeah. I mean, I thought personally, I thought
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that joke was like a great piece of biting commentary
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on like the prominent. liberal politics of that
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celebrity audience. And also you contrast that
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with, oh, you're having relations with Jeff Bezos,
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who's known to curry favor with our Republican
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president right now. A very divisive figure indeed.
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So, and also like the whole thing about like,
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oh, but this room in the Grammys has more black
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people compared to Basil's wedding. It was like,
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oh yeah, you're commenting on wealth in America
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being prominently dominated by white people.
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So it was a lot of layers to that joke that I
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really appreciated. If you don't mind, I have
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a few other jokes that I wanted to share with
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you that I thought was great. Are you a big fan
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of the song Apatah by Bruno Mars and Rosé? I
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am. I'm a huge Bruno Mars fan, so I love that
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song. Can I ask you why it's spelled A -P -T
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like apartment, like the abbreviation of apartment,
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when it's like pronounced in a way that does
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not look like A -P -T? That's one of those crazy
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words. Like what? Yeah, for sure. But yeah, Trevor
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had a great joke about like, I think he started
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with a reference to Apatah, and then he went
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into like, oh, like America's favorite drinking
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game is like, they'll take a drink every time
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they watch the news. And it was an amazing thing
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in my mind. Cause I'm like, Oh my God, we're,
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we would basically be suicidal alcoholics at
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this point. If we're taking a drink every time
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we watch the news. Oh my God. And then, um, Trevor,
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Trevor mentioning Justin Bieber as one of the
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performers, uh, the camera cuts to Justin talking
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to someone else at his table. Clearly not giving
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a fuck about the recognition of laws. Absolutely
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not. fan from back in the day. And I like to
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see him come back in the spotlight and stuff.
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But yeah, he's got that attitude. Like don't
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fuck with them. And he don't care about the society
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of the things which. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And especially
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when Trevor like, like actually walked over to
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Justin and Haley's table and he made some harmless
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Apple iPhone maintenance joke toward Justin,
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which I thought was like the safe way to go because.
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You can see as Trevor is walking to Justin's
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table, he has that cringey look on his face,
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like, oh God, please don't make fun of me. Please,
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like, I already have enough attention. Please
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don't make fun of me. So that was awesome. And
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Trevor, he did mention that Lauryn Hill was performing
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and that of course got a round of applause. But
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are you familiar with Lauryn Hill's reputation
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for lateness? Yeah, from years back. I know she
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had a big reputation for that. Also, she's one
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of those that kind of doesn't give in to the
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norm and go with society and kind of use their
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own things. Definitely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You've
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heard stories about. her showing up like three,
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four, five hours late to some shows. So I'm surprised
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that Trevor didn't mention that as a joke during
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the show. Right. That would have been a good
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one. Right. But speaking of Lauryn Hill, this
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was a clever joke. Trevor said something like,
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the last time Lauryn Hill performed at the Grammys
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was 1999. You understand how long ago that was?
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Back then we had like a president who had a sex
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scandal. We had like, we all thought that computers
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were going to destroy us and Diddy was arrested.
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My how times have changed. like a sarcastic dig
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at the fact that nothing much has changed since
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1999. That was a great one. I love how they do
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that. Pull in the old times to the new times
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and put those little digs in there. So yeah,
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that was a great one. Yeah. Did you see what
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Jamie Foxx was wearing? I did. Yes. What did
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you think about it? It was interesting. Um, and
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I'm a huge, huge, huge fan, like music as an
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artist, his comedy, everything. Like he's one
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of my favorite people in the entire world. So
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that was definitely interesting. So he had a
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big tan hat on, like he was going out to like
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the African safari and then he had this, he had
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this print on his suit that like gave me like
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70s sort of retro computer glitch couch Christian
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vibes. It was odd. Um, and especially when like
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Trevor went over to Pharrell and was like, Oh,
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Pharrell, wow, look at what you're wearing. And
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Pharrell's sitting right next to Jamie. And I
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would think that Jamie has like the more louder,
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like in your face. Yeah. Yeah. Like Pharrell,
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like he had a grill on his teeth. Is that, is
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that in anymore? I thought that was, I guess
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it must be coming back. I've been noticing it
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more and more. I thought that went out in the
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two thousands. Me too. Oh my God. I don't know,
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you know, how these fans come back. Have you
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ever, yeah, have you ever, ever been into that
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grill look that hip hop artists used to have
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back in the day? I personally didn't, but I did
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hang out with people that did. So I was always
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friends with all the cool or bad kids and being
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in a small town, that's not a big diversity of
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people. But yeah, I definitely hung out with
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everybody that was in the hip hop and rap and
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everything and tried to dress like that. The
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big baggy pants, the white T's, all that. You'd
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silently judge the people with grills where you're
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just like cringing every time they have to smile
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at you. I didn't laugh at all. Some of my famous
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rap artists, favorite rap artists use that or
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like Paul Wall and stuff like that. I just saw
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him last year at Tacos and Tequila. I still live
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in the 90s, 2000s vibes. And you're not saying
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his name right. It's not Paul Wall, it's Pow
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Wow. Yeah, Pow Wow. Mike Jones is there too.
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Mike Jones, yeah, when they used to say their
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names like 15 times in songs. Oh, those were
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the good old days. So, oh, Jelly Roll. Trevor
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goes to the table with both Jelly Roll and Teddy
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Swims? Yeah, Teddy Swims. A joke that I didn't
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think was brilliant and actually true until Trevor
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said it when Trevor was joking to Jelly Roll
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and wondering if Jelly tries to get into Teddy
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Swims' phone or face ID. Because if you look
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at Jelly Roll and... Teddy Swims, aside from
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the fact that Jelly Roll recently lost a lot
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of weight, like Jelly and Teddy do have that
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similar white guy of a certain size with beard
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and face tattoos look. Yeah, definitely. For
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sure. Oh my God. Are you a fan of either of them
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as artists? I am. I love Teddy Swims. When he
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first came out, I fell in love like everybody
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else with the first song he released and then
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I... deep dived into his album and everything.
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I really love his sound. I think he's super talented.
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I like Jelly Roll. I don't really have a famous
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Jelly Roll song or favorite Jelly Roll, but I
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do like Jelly Roll as well. That was actually
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something I was going to mention that I know
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he did really good at the Grammys. And yeah,
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it's crazy to see his weight loss journey and
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how they spin it and everybody talks about it.
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So. Yeah. What did you think about Trevor Noah's
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enthusiasm, whether it be at the pre -show or
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the actual monologue during the show? I know
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this Hollywood Reporter writer criticized him
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for having just this very repetitive, like, are
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you kidding me? Oh my God, look at all these
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celebrities in the room. Look at all these fantastic
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people. Like I was starting to see like the annoyance
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of that critic because. did seem like it was
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very much like, oh, like, here I am trying to
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kiss everybody's asses and being everybody's
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good graces and yada yada. Like, did you, did
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you, do you like that kind of energy in a, in
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a work show host? Do you not so much? Like, what
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do you, what do you think? I think it's kind
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of expected. I think almost every award show
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host annoys you at some point or it has to be
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over the top. And that's their job to keep everybody
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entertained and keep everybody interested. As
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I said, I watched the pre -ceremony as well as
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most of the Grammys itself. And in the pre -ceremony,
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he was doing that a lot too, cause people weren't
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there. So he'd have to do that like, oh, I'll
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take the award for you and do that too. Like,
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oh, where are they? Where are they? And like
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stuff like that. I just think as Norm of a host
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that he didn't really annoy me, but yeah. Describe
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the pre -ceremony to me. Is it just Trevor like
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schmoozing with people on the red carpet? Like
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I didn't get a chance to watch the pre -show.
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It is. I am a lover of all music, so I listen
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to every genre. There is, me and my husband are
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big metal fans and rock fans as well. A lot of
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the pre -ceremony is those awards. A lot of times
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they don't have them in the... basic Grammy,
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so it's like the people that are kind of less
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than or not as popular. So a lot of people hadn't
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even arrived yet or weren't even there yet. So
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those artists, he was just taking the awards
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for them and stuff. All right. So as for, you
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know, going back to the monologue and the actual
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ceremony. So I know that Trevor got a round of
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applause when he had mentioned that Nicki Minaj
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was not in the room. This is for political reasons,
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her association with Trump now. And then you
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saw a shot of Chrissy Teigen, John Legend's wife,
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like giving a thumbs up. I was actually used
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and surprised by Trevor's Trump impression when
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he was impersonating Trump and just being like,
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oh, Nicki. I got the biggest ass. No, you don't.
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I got the biggest ass. I know that Trevor was
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the host of The Daily Show during Trump's first
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term, so he's had plenty of time. He's had plenty
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of time to perfect the impression, but I just,
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I don't know. I was impressed by it and I got
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a kick out of it. Yeah, that was great. I love
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it. Anytime somebody impersonates Trump, especially
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they make him sound more like an idiot, I'm down.
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I am going to say this because we've had a decade
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of him. I've heard enough impressions where...
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I don't want to hear any more of it, but somehow
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there was something about the way Trevor did
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it in that moment where I was like, oh, look
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at you. I didn't know that. I've even heard him
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do it recently on his podcast, but it seemed
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like he perfected it just the right tone and
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way. Yeah. During the monologue and, I don't
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know. Right. And incorporating Nicki Minaj. Yeah.
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Just that little aspect on it was special for
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sure. Yeah. What did you think about Bad Bunny
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winning album of the year? Yeah. I like Bad Bunny.
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He's another person that I listen to. I don't
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know if he was album of the year for me, but
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I enjoy him. So, and he's going into the Super
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Bowl. So of course he's big name and popular
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right now. So. He's having a big moment. I thought
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that his biggest, I thought that his biggest
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like one, two big media. moment was like when
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he was both like announced as like the season
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premiere post of SNL for this season. And then
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at the same time, it was like, oh, it was announced
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that Bad Bunny was going to be halftime show
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performer at the Super Bowl. But I think specifically
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now. It couldn't get any more big for bad money.
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Like, you're at the Grammys, you won a lot of
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awards including Album of the Year, and the Super
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Bowl is literally this coming Sunday as we are
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recording this. Yeah, he's on top of the world
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right now. So I'm happy for him. He seems like
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a very wonderful, kind, decent human being. He
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certainly has a lot of love for his home of Puerto
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Rico. Can I ask who else in the Album of the
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Year category would you have liked to see win?
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I'm actually a huge Tyler the Creator fan. He
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was up for the award as well as Kendrick Lamar.
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Of course, Kendrick Lamar has been just as huge
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as Bad Bunny the last year, too. But I think
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Tyler, the creator, would have been my personal
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choice, but I don't disagree with Bad Bunny.
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That would have been my choice. I have to ask,
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for the committee that decides who the winners
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of these awards are, because Bad Bunny, he made
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history as the first Spanish language album to
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win album of the year. So I wonder, are there...
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a huge amount or any amount of Spanish speakers
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in the committee or is it just simply like, oh,
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it could just be a bunch of English speaking
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people and they just happen to enjoy Bad Bunny's
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album regardless of the fact if they even understand
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the lyrics that he is saying, you know what I
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mean? Yeah, for sure. Yeah. I'm not sure. I've
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always wondered about that too, like how they
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make up the Academy or who votes on that. Um,
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yeah, like you said, if it's a big diversity
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or if it's just a bunch of English speaking white
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men, so. Um, I like how he went from English
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to Spanish, Spanish to English in his, in his
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winter speech for album of honor. That was great.
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Uh, did you see Cher's Grammy's flub moment?
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Um, I may have missed that part, but I love Cher.
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It was adorable. So. Uh, Cher, I forgot what
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award she was about to announce. Oh yeah. It
19:46
was like some award that went to like Kendrick
19:48
and SZA for their, for their Luther song, I believe.
19:51
And Cher had the envelope in her hands that had
19:55
the name of the winner, but somehow she thought
19:57
that the winner would be given to her via teleprompter,
20:00
like right in front of her face. So she had that
20:02
moment of like, Oh my God. Oh, I'm sorry. I thought
20:04
that the winner was supposed to be on the teleprompter.
20:06
She had like an awkward pause for a long time
20:08
before she like, and, and on top of that. Even
20:11
though she had the envelope with Kendrick's name
20:15
on it, she was like, oh, and the Grammy goes
20:17
to Luther Grandhouse. Maybe she was confusing
20:23
the name of the song with the name of the artist.
20:26
Right. Yes. That's funny. Oh my gosh. Yeah. I've
20:29
seen her. Yeah. I watch, um, or listen to armchair
20:31
experts as well. And they just had her on as
20:34
a guest and it was cool to see that she's back
20:36
in the spotlight and she's been around for so
20:39
many years and she's such an icon. Yeah. I, I
20:42
enjoy the armchair expert podcast from time to
20:44
time. So I have to listen to that. I know that,
20:46
I know there was some press about that interview.
20:48
Yeah, there was. Cher was... Cher was on the
20:52
recent Christmas episode of SNL and her, both
20:55
her performances clearly very lip synced, but
20:58
I love how everybody like online, whoever, like
21:01
just everybody seems to have the energy of, you
21:04
know what, the choreography is definitely more
21:06
of the focus than actual live vocals. Cher is
21:09
clearly lip syncing, but this woman is nearly
21:11
80. She's been giving us iconic music artistry
21:16
since the... 60s, I think, with Sonny. So give
21:21
her a break. If she wants the lip sync on SNL,
21:23
why not lip sync on SNL? Right. She's in her
21:26
80s or close to the 80s, so she's been doing
21:28
it for so many years. Just let her do it how
21:30
she wants to. She's still iconic. We know she
21:32
can sing, so. I agree. I agree. Let's talk about
21:35
the Grammy live performances. Tell me, what were
21:38
your favorite performances? Why? Let's get into
21:40
it. Once again, Tyler, the creator, he's one
21:42
of my favorites. So I loved his, just the way
21:45
he performs. Anytime he performs, I'm in love
21:48
with it. He's just unique and very to himself
21:51
and the way he performs and does things. I absolutely
21:53
love that. Of course, Bruno Mars. I absolutely
21:56
love anytime Bruno Mars performs or anything.
21:59
I'm not, I don't really listen to Sabrina Carpenter
22:02
or know her very well. So I did enjoy seeing
22:05
a different, seeing her because I haven't really
22:08
watched her very often. I'm not into them. modern
22:10
music as much, but yeah. And then Spiritbacks,
22:14
I know they were part of like the pre -ceremony.
22:17
A lot of people were shocked by that because
22:19
it was a metal performance, but that was really
22:21
cool to see in the Grammy world as well. So that
22:24
was really cool as a metal fan and a Spiritbacks
22:26
fan to see that. I am all for more metal coverage
22:31
or any metal coverage at all at the actual Grammy
22:34
ceremony. You're making me fight for the metal
22:37
genre. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, because unfortunately,
22:39
it's not going to get as much coverage as say
22:41
like pop or hip hop or country. So yeah, I definitely
22:45
want to see more of genres that you don't quite
22:48
get to see at the Grammys, like the actual ceremony.
22:51
It would be cool to have it more integrated or
22:53
because they do they separate them, you know,
22:55
more the rock and metal is typically beforehand,
22:57
not part of the mainstream viewing. So definitely
23:01
would be cool to see it mixed in there a little
23:02
more. But they did have the Ozzy tribute and
23:04
did have everybody associated with that. So that
23:06
was really cool too. Yeah. I loved Bruno Mars
23:10
and Rosé's performance to start off the show.
23:13
I thought, once again, apete. Like, this is a
23:15
song that I actually have to listen to on Spotify
23:18
just for the name alone. I thought it was a great
23:21
rock energy to start off the show. I love Bruno's
23:25
rebellious Billy Joel rocker look that he was
23:27
putting on. That was great. Lady Gaga's performance
23:30
of Abracadabra. I don't know if you got a chance
23:33
to watch that, but Lady Gaga did a really like
23:39
ear cringy screech scream where she was like,
23:43
Like she was there like at the beginning and
23:46
I was like, oh how the fuck are you able to do
23:48
that? But still sing so effortlessly. Yeah for
23:52
sure. Yeah, she definitely has that wide range
23:54
She could almost go in the metal or rec field
23:56
so for sure like as if she didn't almost damage
23:59
her voice by being like Yeah, I love Lady Gaga.
24:03
I love, she's always this out there in herself,
24:05
so. Did you catch that black laundry basket with
24:09
the feathery thing sticking out that she was
24:10
wearing over her head? Yeah, yeah. It's classic
24:14
Gaga. She always has interesting, some kind of
24:16
dress code, some kind of headdress or something
24:19
on this that was unique like that, so. I think
24:22
it was last year, the year before, yeah. It's
24:24
kind of reminding me of like early days Gaga,
24:26
where she was very known for her like out there,
24:29
quirky. fashion, like the famous meat dress,
24:32
for example. And I would say for this performance
24:35
of Abracadabra at the Grammys, it was a lot more
24:38
physically contained than, say, Lady Gaga's performance
24:40
of that same song on her recent stint on SNL,
24:44
where she was both hosted musical guests. You
24:46
have to check out that video if you want to check
24:49
out, like, true athletic choreography to the
24:53
max, combined with, unlike Cher, live vocals.
24:58
It is a feat. Like maybe Lady Gaga makes it look
25:02
easy, but to sing live, but also do choreography
25:06
so much that you are running out of breath like
25:08
every two seconds and to make it look all flawless
25:12
and wonderful to see. That SNL performance just
25:15
blew me away. So I highly recommend that. I have
25:18
to check that out for sure. So she's definitely
25:20
super talented and she's always, her voice is
25:22
so powerful on top of her performance. So it's
25:25
always a treat to see her. For Sabrina Carpenter's
25:27
Manjaro performance. I mean, I thought the airlock.
25:29
theme was fun to look at. Yeah, yeah. The baggage
25:34
claim rotator thing, Sabrina ending off the performance,
25:37
uh, going up on an airplane. The audience seemed
25:39
to be standing up, clapping along, vibing with
25:41
the music. I guess I was just a very literal
25:46
lame -o where I thought like, Oh, what does this
25:49
airplane theme have to do with the actual description
25:51
of the song, which is. you know, talking about
25:54
an immature man that is not responsible for his
25:57
own actions. But I don't know, you said you saw
26:01
Sabrina's performance. I know you're not a fan
26:02
of that. Yeah, I did. I was not super familiar
26:04
with her. I've heard of her. I have nieces that
26:06
are obsessed with her. So, but yeah, I thought
26:09
it was like you said, it's just, I don't know
26:11
how it went with the name of the song exactly.
26:14
But yeah, there's always hitting meanings and
26:16
things that they always try to get out there
26:17
as well. Yeah. Addison Rae, her performance of
26:21
Fame is a Gun. I loved the moving truck storage
26:24
set that they put her in. I was wondering like,
26:26
oh my God, are we actually in some kind of random
26:29
storage space or are we on the Grammy stage?
26:33
And they just made a fantastic set. But Cat's
26:35
Eye, Cat's Eye, their performance of Gnarly,
26:38
they began with the same exact set. So I was
26:41
wondering if - Yeah, that is surprising. Not
26:43
surprising? It was surprising that they did that,
26:46
that they use the same, they usually do a whole
26:48
big thing of switching them all out, so. Maybe
26:50
it was like one song after another, like maybe
26:52
like Addison Rae and then Cat's Eye came right
26:54
after and they just wanted to blend it seamlessly,
26:57
set design wise. That makes sense, yeah. Um,
27:00
you're a big fan of Leon Thomas? Yeah. I do like
27:02
Leon Thomas a lot. His song, Mutt, I heard many,
27:05
many times in the last year and it has that earworm,
27:09
that earworm chorus, you know, that chorus that
27:11
you just find nothing but catchy. Um, I did like
27:14
how you put like an energetic rock guitar twist
27:17
throughout the performance. Um, I heard some
27:19
seventies music sound effects in there. Uh, that
27:22
was great. Uh, Alex Warren, I know that he had
27:26
a big hit in that song, Ordinary, over the past
27:28
year. He did have issues with his earpiece and
27:33
I can only imagine that's frightening when you're
27:36
dealing with that. in the live performance. Like
27:38
there's no editing, there's no stopping and doing
27:41
over. You just have to roll with it. And Alex
27:43
did roll with it. I mean, he just, after a while
27:45
he just said, fuck it, I'm going to take off
27:46
the earpiece and I'm just going to roll with
27:48
the song. I'll figure it out as best as I can.
27:50
He wasn't following the backing track in certain
27:53
places, but still overall I thought he was a
27:56
great performer. They raised him on a platform
27:59
like high up in the ceiling, kind of like Beyonce
28:02
at one of her concerts. And do you have a fear
28:05
of heights? Because that scared me as someone
28:07
who has a fear of heights. Yeah, for sure. I've
28:09
been on the top of, I don't know what it's called
28:11
now, the Sears Tower in Chicago and the CN Tower
28:14
in Toronto, but like out in the open like that
28:17
with nothing around me. Yeah, I wouldn't know.
28:20
Yeah. Boy. I got to shout out to, I got to give
28:22
a shout out to this YouTuber called International
28:25
Ferg because I got a lot of my Grammy performance
28:28
from him on YouTube. And during Alex Warren's
28:33
performance, the camera cuts to a shot of Jelly
28:37
Roll like dance vibing to the song Ordinary with,
28:40
I guess, his significant other. And International
28:43
Ferg seems to genuinely ask if Jelly Roll is
28:45
The Undertaker, like The Undertaker from WWE.
28:48
I don't know how familiar you are with wrestling,
28:50
but I was like, I literally had to comment on
28:52
the comment section. I was like, is that the,
28:53
no, that's Jelly Roll. That's great. I love that.
28:56
The Undertaker. Oh, for sure. Definitely remember
28:58
The Undertaker, so. Yeah. Lola Young, her performance
29:02
of Messy, her vocal pitch seemed a little bit
29:05
off and the mic seemed a little bit too loud,
29:08
but it happened. Yeah, for sure. I like performances
29:11
so hard with all those little kinks. And as you
29:13
mentioned before at the earpiece and everything,
29:16
just seeing them work through it and still perform
29:18
and try their best is, it's inspiring. Just humans
29:21
to you, so. Yeah, for sure. Olivia Dean, her
29:25
big hit, Man I Need, a big hit in the past year.
29:29
And a lot of people have seen, or a lot of people
29:31
have noticed that it has like a classic 80s,
29:33
90s art feel to it. Personally, I've never been
29:37
a huge fan of the song. I've listened to it a
29:39
few times, but Olivia seems like a wonderful
29:41
person. And I will say that the gold lights and
29:46
the chandelier vibe that she had going on with
29:48
her performance in the background was very nice
29:50
to see. Are you into alternative rock? Yeah,
29:52
absolutely. Okay. Yeah, I am. As an alternative
29:55
rock fan, I like to sing somber, perform their
29:58
song 12 to 12. Uh, the lead singer, he always,
30:02
uh, reminds me of like Finn Wolfhard from Stranger
30:05
Things. Have you watched that? Oh yeah, for sure.
30:07
Yeah, definitely. I could see that. I didn't
30:10
see that before, but I will always think that
30:12
now. So yeah, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. It's like,
30:14
I always look at him and I'm like, oh, that's
30:16
Mike from Stranger Things, except he has like
30:18
a really like Prince Michael Jackson sequin jacket.
30:22
Yeah. It's cool. I love the ribs though. Uh,
30:25
Justin Bieber's performance of Yukon had people
30:27
talking. Did you have any thoughts about that?
30:30
It's just Justin Bieber to me. You never know
30:33
what to expect with Justin Bieber. Like he's
30:36
been in the spotlight and the headlines for so
30:38
many years. I always feel bad for Justin Bieber,
30:41
everything starting out so young and stuff and
30:43
all the things that have happened over the years.
30:45
So I just, it's Justin Bieber. That's all I can
30:47
really say on that one. So what I will say, the
30:49
performance started out with a Bieber playing
30:51
instruments. It goes on like that throughout,
30:54
but what I'm saying is like when the camera cuts
30:57
to Justin for the first time, I see him playing
30:59
instruments. and nothing but boxers and socks.
31:02
And I said to myself, okay, that's a choice,
31:03
but it seems to play into the vulnerability of
31:06
the song. There was a keyboard sound effect that
31:08
he kept playing like in between some lyrics that
31:10
just kept on going, yeah. So that was funny.
31:14
But overall. Despite the weird boxer socks moment,
31:17
the man can sing. Like someone who's followed
31:20
Justin Bieber since like 2009, roughly. And I
31:23
was one of those people that way back when he
31:25
started as a kid, it was just like, Oh God, this
31:27
fucking, this, this teen idol, this child idol,
31:31
whatever the fuck you want to call it. Like I
31:32
was, I was rolling my eyes like many others.
31:35
But as he's matured into an adult, I've really
31:39
begun to appreciate his singing talent. I think
31:41
he has a fantastic voice and I now, in perspective,
31:46
find the fact that he was in nothing but boxers
31:49
and socks. It's symbolic of the fact that unlike
31:51
other Grammy performers who are gonna pull off
31:54
all the stops with the fabulous set design and
31:56
stuff like that, Justin Bieber is symbolically,
31:58
metaphorically telling you, you know what, fuck
32:00
all that. I'm gonna just... strip it all down
32:03
and gave you bare bones, simple, great vocals.
32:08
Yeah, that's what I came away from it. I mean,
32:11
and the response seems to be a consensus of like
32:15
people really respecting and admiring Bieber's
32:18
tower. But yeah, I think because of the tabloid
32:20
nature of his celebrity, the fact that he's been
32:22
out of music for a few years before getting back
32:25
into it, I think it's very easy to take him for
32:28
granted. But yeah, the Grammy's show, That last
32:31
Sunday night reminded me of like, oh yeah, this
32:34
is why this kid is around and has sold as many
32:36
records as he has is because he really is a true
32:39
talent. So yeah, he is absolutely truly talented.
32:42
And like you said, I think a lot of people think
32:43
of I'm younger baby and candy or whatever the
32:47
songs were back in the day. But yeah, he's really
32:49
a talented artist. So I don't know. I think it
32:51
was my wife or who told me that they were really
32:55
obsessed with the song baby back in the day.
32:58
And it's still like, if not. It's one of the
33:02
most watched videos on YouTube. I mean, it's
33:04
like surpassed a billion views at this point.
33:05
Well, there you go. But yeah, so you had mentioned
33:08
earlier the in memoriam performances. Like, did
33:11
you have anything that stood out to you in that
33:13
section of the show? I'm, I was a huge Ozzy Osbourne
33:16
fan. I was completely devastated when he passed
33:19
away like everybody else and still get sad about
33:21
it. So grew up watching the Osbournes. My dad
33:24
was into, um, rock music. That's my husband went
33:27
to Oz Fest. Like all of the Osbournes are integrated
33:29
in our life. So, um, it was really cool to see
33:32
Post Malone, see his performance. I thought he
33:35
killed it. And he's another artist that he is
33:38
so vastly talented. People tend to forget that
33:40
as well. Like he can do rock, he can do country,
33:43
he can do pop. He can rap, so that was really
33:45
cool to see him shine in that moment. Completely
33:47
agree. That was my first thought as actually
33:50
when essentially all these modern day artists
33:52
are paying tribute to dead people. I'm sorry,
33:56
there's really no other way to say it. Post Malone,
33:58
Slash, Duff McKagan, Chad Smith, Andrew Watt,
34:02
they killed the rendition of Black Sabbath's
34:06
War Pigs. War Pigs, yeah. Absolutely insane.
34:10
Great rock star energy. Post Malone, once again,
34:14
reminding me that he can do anything. Like he
34:17
came on the scene, I think, first as a hip hop
34:19
artist, some R &B vibes here and there, and then
34:22
to see him tackle on country so successfully.
34:26
He's done covers of Hootie and the Bluefish,
34:29
Nirvana, Black Sabbath. He is a talent. Like
34:34
he can do anything. Oh yeah, absolutely. I'm
34:35
a huge Postie fan, so I love it. Yeah, for sure.
34:39
Yeah, absolutely. As you should be. My wife got
34:41
me into a country song of his that I can't remember
34:44
the name of, but I would have it all repeat on
34:46
Spotify over and over again for a period of time.
34:50
Oh, yeah. Post Malone. There's one of them in
34:53
Jelly Roll. I think that I love those on his
34:55
country album. I think it's called Losers or
34:57
something. I played that one on repeat and repeat.
34:59
I love that. Oh, my God. I got to dive into that
35:02
as well. What did you think of Lauryn Hill's
35:06
tribute? This was the longest one out of the
35:08
In Ramona tribute. I think Lauryn Hill went on
35:09
for like 12 minutes with what seemed like a million
35:12
performers on stage. Yeah, I loved it. Angelo.
35:15
So I thought it was really cool that they did
35:17
a special tribute to him and had her come on
35:19
and do it. I thought it was beautiful. It was
35:22
long, but I didn't lose interest in it, and it
35:25
was cool to see her back in the spotlight. It
35:27
didn't seem long. They kept it moving pretty
35:29
nicely, I thought. I loved Lauren's thick Bridgerton
35:34
-style dress. Oh yeah, for sure. I love the Bridgerton
35:37
look, so that was really cool. Yeah. I personally
35:40
thought Lauren's vocals were not the strongest.
35:43
There was a moment where she was like, it seemed
35:45
like she was holding her chest or rubbing her
35:46
chest in between lyrics. I don't know if that
35:48
was like a performative move or if that was like
35:50
actually her just being like... Cause she hasn't
35:52
had, she hasn't performed on the Grammy since
35:53
1999. Yeah. That's a long time. So maybe like
35:57
there was a little bit of rust in there and she
35:59
was trying to get that back. Yeah. You had mentioned
36:00
the D 'Angelo tribute. She also paid tribute
36:02
to Roberta Flack, who I forgot died this past
36:05
year. I know I did too. You always forget people
36:08
when they play that like, oh yeah, I forgot they
36:10
passed away. Yeah. I do have bouncing off of
36:12
Roberta Flack. The closer I get to you, even
36:14
though that's like, I know it's like a basic
36:16
thing to say, I love that song. It's probably
36:18
her most well -known hit with Donny Hathaway,
36:20
but I will always have a soft spot for that song.
36:24
And I thought it was tremendously sweet that
36:26
Donnie's daughter, Layla, was on stage performing
36:29
that song along with Lauren and others. Yeah,
36:33
you have the likes of Rafael Sadiq, John Baptiste,
36:35
Anthony Hamilton, John Legend, Shaka Khan on
36:37
there. I... A lot of people love this tribute
36:42
with Lauren Hill and that's great for them. To
36:45
me, the main vibe was there seems to be a lot
36:48
of people coming in and out performing. And I've
36:51
never been a big fan of like, all right, let's
36:53
do a trippy performance. We have 12 minutes and
36:55
let's try to cram in like 12 ,000 songs. Right.
37:00
And sure, they found a way to make it seamless,
37:02
but to me, I just think it's more resonant to
37:06
sit with one, maybe two songs over the course
37:09
of a performance, rather than like, oh, let's
37:11
try to fit in as many as possible to really reflect
37:15
the scope of all these dead artists who are trying
37:18
to pay tribute to, you know? Yeah, I can see
37:20
that. I definitely understand that for sure.
37:22
It would be, like you said, maybe one or two
37:23
artists and just kind of let it flow, be a little
37:26
bit more in the moment. But yeah, they're switching
37:28
everything up, having a million... different
37:29
people, so. Yeah. I was surprised at Wyclef.
37:34
Lauren's Fuji's mate showed up for a rendition
37:38
of Killing Me Softly, which is probably like
37:40
the best known cover from the Fuji's. I thought
37:42
there was tension between Lauren and Wyclef.
37:44
I thought all the Fuji's just hated each other
37:46
because there was that point in time. There was
37:48
that point in time where they recently were gonna
37:51
like reunite and go on tour, but then there was
37:53
like a rift in the group and they never made
37:55
that happen. And then, oh God, what are the Fugees?
37:58
Pros Michel. I know he got into some legal troubles,
38:00
so he might be in prison right now as we speak.
38:02
But yeah, I don't know. I just figure that, oh,
38:04
because of tension with the Fugees and them never
38:06
being able to reunite, that Lauren and Wyclef
38:08
weren't speaking with each other. Add on top,
38:11
but I think they had a romantic relationship
38:13
in the past. Yeah, I think so. For sure. Yeah,
38:16
that's the last I knew that none of them really
38:18
got along. So that was interesting to see and
38:20
to see that they are talking and can be around
38:23
each other. Maybe there'll be some kind of reunion
38:25
in the future. Was Wyclef wearing Professor Snape's
38:28
cloak? Oh, that cloak look. I don't, I don't
38:34
ever understand when people wear those. But yeah,
38:37
that's a pretty big thing. Yeah, Wycliffe was
38:38
wearing something and I was like, oh my God,
38:39
it's the black version of Severus Snape from
38:42
Harry Potter. Yeah, definitely. Oh my God. When
38:47
you think about Reba, they made a big deal about
38:49
like Reba having never performed at the Grammys
38:51
before up until now. Like this was her Grammys
38:53
performance debut. She, she was a part of the
38:56
memoriam tribute and she performed, I guess,
38:58
a slow country ballad called Trailblazer. Any
39:01
thoughts about that? I've always been a huge
39:03
Reba fan since I was young, especially growing
39:06
up in like a country setting. I've always loved
39:08
Reba. I think it's cool that she was finally
39:11
on there. I'm surprised that was her first time
39:13
on the greenies, but yeah, they did kind of make
39:15
it too big of a deal, but I always love Reba.
39:18
I always love seeing her perform and she's just
39:20
Reba. Yeah, Reba has, uh, Reba's one of those
39:23
people that like, if I see her in an interview,
39:25
I'm like, Oh my God, that's great. Like you have
39:27
like fun Southern hospitality, country mom energy.
39:32
I would definitely want to hang out with you,
39:34
trade some jokes with you. I would gamble to
39:37
say that. My wife and one of her best friends
39:41
are probably a bigger fan of Reba than I am.
39:44
Just because they grew up in Vermont and much
39:47
like where I think you are. I'm not from here
39:50
originally, but what I do know, Vermont and its
39:52
rural aesthetic, like a lot of people here like
39:56
country music. And Reba exemplifies that. So
40:00
I'm sure my wife and her friend, they're a bigger
40:02
fan of her music. Certainly they're a fan of
40:04
her sitcom. Have you seen the Reba sitcom? Oh
40:06
yeah, for sure. The newer one that she's made,
40:10
I'm not a big fan of that one. It's just too
40:11
corny. I forget what it's called. She owns a
40:13
bar. I forget what that one's called, but I do
40:16
enjoy Reba. I will still watch that on repeat.
40:19
Was it the voice that she's a judge on or he
40:22
was? I've always known she was part of that.
40:24
So I think she was a great add to that. Wasn't
40:27
Rebo's original sitcom also corny to some extent?
40:30
Like aren't a lot of sitcoms? Yeah. It's just
40:31
some of the newer stuff nowadays, some of the
40:33
Netflix shows like that are just almost like,
40:35
I never could get into the new, the Connors instead
40:38
of Roseanne or like how they redid Full House.
40:41
I could, it's just too, a little too much cornyness
40:44
for me. So. I don't know. I feel like part of
40:46
that could be just that multi - live studio audience
40:50
to come format. Absolutely. Yeah, the way things
40:52
are filmed nowadays is different. Yeah. I don't
40:56
know. I think the aesthetic for both comedies
40:58
and dramas were so used to like a single camera,
41:00
no audience format that try to keep that multicam
41:05
live studio audience sitcom format going. Maybe
41:07
in modern days, it feels cheesy and out of place
41:10
compared to say back in the 80s and 90s where
41:12
it just seemed to be very regular in the culture.
41:18
I will say, even though I didn't really think
41:19
much about Reba's actual performing, I did like
41:23
the candlelight and the plants around her on
41:27
the stage. It just gave me like romantic fall
41:31
season vibes. For sure. Definitely. It reminded
41:34
me of like a Whitney Houston performance I seen
41:36
years ago in probably the 90s or something. It
41:39
might have been the Grammys or something to do
41:40
with the candlelight and everything. So that's
41:42
what it took me back to. Well, thank you for
41:47
this conversation Melanie, I really appreciate
41:49
it and before we wrap up here Let's let's take
41:52
a few minutes to acknowledge that an icon passed
41:56
away over the last week or so Actress and comedian
42:00
or just I would say actress because she does
42:02
comedy and drama. So well, just say actress Wonderful
42:06
actress Katherine O 'Hara passed away. Where
42:09
were you when you found out about her death?
42:12
I was actually at home. I was doing a recording.
42:16
Getting ready to do a recording for my podcast
42:18
and I saw it come across Facebook and I was shocked.
42:21
I was shocked. I didn't expect to see her go.
42:24
She didn't seem that old to me and she really
42:25
wasn't that, but yeah, she's definitely an icon
42:28
and she'll definitely be missed and she's been
42:30
in so many roles. People tend to forget some
42:32
of the roles that she's in, some of the animated
42:34
roles. that she's done, she's definitely a night
42:36
cat. 71 years old, yeah. Which is, if this death
42:41
happened in like the 70s or 80s, whatever, because
42:44
I think the far back we go, the more commonplace
42:47
it was for people in their early 70s to pass
42:49
away. But nowadays where people, a lot of people
42:53
are living into their 80s, 90s, 100s, 71 is young.
42:57
71 is young for... especially someone of Katherine
43:00
O 'Hara's fiber, who is any interview that I've
43:03
seen her in, she just exudes this sweet, comforting,
43:10
fun mom vibe. Her representatives just said that
43:13
it was a brief illness. There may be more information
43:15
from TMZ as we speak. I don't know, but I know
43:17
that that is probably her representative is being
43:20
like, Hey, we want to protect her legacy. have
43:22
you remember her for the fantastic work that
43:24
she's done. I was, so I'm an Uber and Lyft driver.
43:27
That's how I pay the bills. And I was literally
43:30
in the middle of a ride, Mel. AP news notification
43:34
came in and I was just like, huh? Like just like
43:37
looking at my phone, just dumbfounded. And I'm
43:40
sure the rider behind me was just like, everything
43:42
okay? Like, why are you not looking at the road?
43:47
Like everything okay? But yeah, no, I mean, I
43:51
tried to process the news through CNN, through
43:54
Hollywood Reporter, through social media tributes.
44:03
What specific roles we loved about her, like
44:06
for you, like when you think Catherine O 'Hara,
44:07
like what specific roles, movies, TV shows, what
44:10
stands out? Sure. Of course, Home Alone. That
44:13
is always my favorite role for Kevin's mom. Seeing
44:16
Macaulay Culkin write what he wrote was really
44:19
sweet. He said he wished he had more time with
44:20
her, could sit down with her, called her mom.
44:22
That was really precious to see. She's everybody's
44:25
mom from Home Alone, so that was always important.
44:28
She was a voice of Sally in The Nightmare Before
44:30
Christmas. A lot of people do not know that.
44:32
or even realize that, so that's an iconic movie.
44:35
There's so many people that are obsessed with
44:37
that movie, have tattoos of that movie, have
44:39
their weddings based on that movie. So she's
44:42
just so iconic. I personally never gotten to
44:44
Beetlejuice that much. Of course I've watched
44:46
it, but I think that is probably her most iconic
44:48
role is in Beetlejuice, so. Yeah. I, in looking
44:53
at the credits that I recognize Catherine O 'Hara
44:55
for, I am just stunned by the versatility. You
44:59
know what I mean? Yeah. Absolutely. And I want
45:01
to just go back to the mid -70s to early 80s
45:07
when she was in that Canadian sketch comedy show,
45:09
SCTV, just seeing her in her 20s playing this
45:13
young, dumb, ditzy Brooke Shields, when Brooke
45:17
Shields at the time I think was sort of a young
45:19
child actress. Right. And then I see Catherine
45:24
O 'Hara have great dramatic chops in that 80s
45:28
movie Heartburn with Meryl Streep and Jack Nicholson,
45:32
which I forgot that she was in because she had
45:34
a relatively small part in that movie because
45:36
the whole movie is like Meryl and Jack playing
45:38
these characters who like we see the decline
45:41
of their relationship. We see them falling in
45:43
love and then just it going down because Jack's
45:48
character is a serial womanizer, et cetera. And
45:51
to see Catherine just have these wonderful dramatic
45:53
chops as sort of like one of these like witnessing
45:55
friends of Meryl Streep's character who sees
45:58
the decline of Meryl and Jack's relationship
46:00
I thought was great. Also, if you want to see
46:02
a great light green shoulder padded, very 80s
46:05
style outfit, watch Catherine O 'Hara in Heartburn.
46:08
That's fantastic. That's an iconic with the shoulder
46:11
pads. Yeah. As far as Beetlejuice, I'm much like
46:15
you. To me, the only thing that pops off in Beetlejuice
46:18
for me is just Michael Keaton just giving a stunning...
46:24
Energetic comedic performances Beetlejuice and
46:26
then like you contrast that with him playing
46:28
Batman the next year Yeah, so that's the only
46:31
thing that come that I come with from Beetlejuice
46:34
as far as Catherine O 'Hara's character She was
46:36
I think her name was Delia D's Yeah, and yeah,
46:39
I mean you see some nice comic energy You see
46:41
her play with her facial expressions when she
46:43
does a dance at the dinner party Um, there was
46:48
a scene I watched on YouTube where you got to
46:50
see the interior design anxiety of Delia D's.
46:53
So, uh, and just the whole Gothic dress of Delia
46:57
D's character, along with pretty much everybody
46:59
else, Winona Ryder included in that movie is
47:02
interesting to see. Um, of course, Home Alone.
47:06
Yeah. The way Catherine carries herself as like
47:10
this, uh, This anxious worried overwhelmed suburban
47:15
mom like she gets in the plane and then it's
47:17
like And then oh my god, I teared up even though
47:27
I only saw like clips on YouTube today And I
47:29
have not seen the full Home Alone movie in quite
47:31
some time. I fucking teared up at the ending
47:34
scene where Kevin and his mom hug. Like when
47:37
his mom apologizes to him for leaving him behind
47:43
for God knows how long, for Christmas. So that
47:47
was great. And then a lot of people, rightfully
47:50
so, have been mentioning how her career was revived,
47:55
or not really revived, but it was really... exemplified,
47:59
like she really got her flowers when she played
48:01
Moira Rose in Schitt's Creek. Have you seen the
48:04
show? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I was never a big fan of
48:06
that show. I've seen a couple episodes, but I
48:08
know that was like most recently her biggest
48:11
thing is being in Schitt's Creek, so for sure.
48:14
Something I didn't know I needed was Catherine
48:16
O 'Hara playing an aging spoiled actress with
48:20
this weird upper class mid -Atlantic accent.
48:22
He's forced to go from riches to rags. with the
48:27
rest of her family and they're living in this
48:28
motel in Schitt's Creek. I didn't know I needed
48:31
that. I didn't know I needed that. I mean, I
48:33
was watching the best of Moira Rose on YouTube
48:36
and right away the first line is gangbusters.
48:40
It's like the entire Schitt's family in a restaurant.
48:45
And Catherine's character, the mom, Moira Rose,
48:49
is just putting down her daughter. She was like...
48:52
And I'm appalled that my baby girl has turned
48:55
into a selfish, duplicitous whore. And then without
48:58
a beat, turns to the waiter, oh, hello. Like
49:01
it's casual to say that your daughter is a duplicitous
49:06
whore and public at a restaurant. Yeah, she was
49:09
like the most iconic bad bitch when she played
49:11
roles. Like she could do that. Like you said,
49:13
be like stuck up, snobby, even at home alone,
49:15
they're wealthier and stuff like that. But yeah,
49:17
when she's in that mom mode, yeah. That's great.
49:21
And I'm still looking for an answer to that question
49:23
that has been meme -ified so much. How can a
49:28
family, like how can parents with that much children
49:30
afford whatever out of town, out of country trip
49:33
that they were going to? Right. Yeah, exactly.
49:36
Yeah. No, that would not be realistic. Yeah.
49:39
And then finally, I think what her final role
49:41
ended up being when she was like the former studio
49:45
head and like mentor to Seth Rogen's character
49:48
in the Apple TV show, The Studio, which loved.
49:51
I cannot wait to see how they pay tribute to
49:53
Catherine O 'Hara in season two. So yeah, that's
49:58
about it. I mean, I am shocked. I am saddened.
50:01
I think that this coming holiday season is going
50:06
to hit hard for people who like to traditionally
50:08
watch Home Alone every year. So rest in peace,
50:13
Catherine. I mean, I absolutely I don't know.
50:15
It's just, there is some talk about like how
50:18
her most recent appearance is. She looks a little
50:20
frail and old, but I just never got the impression
50:22
that this woman was going to leave us. No, me
50:25
neither. Like you said, 71 is young, especially
50:28
being in Hollywood, being a celebrity. They have
50:31
access to all the special doctors, all these
50:33
special treatments and stuff. So, and as you
50:36
said, she didn't really put on anything that
50:38
was going on with her. So it is shocking and
50:40
saddening to see her go and definitely would
50:42
be Miss Greeley. Yeah. Catherine O 'Hara didn't
50:47
get her youth cream. All right, well, rest in
50:52
peace, Catherine O 'Hara. And luckily we have
50:54
like, what, 50 years worth of great film and
50:58
television work to draw upon. My wife and I,
51:01
we're going to go see the 2000 mockumentary film,
51:04
Best in Show, on Netflix at some point. A lot
51:07
of people have been referencing online and I
51:08
just have never gotten a chance to see it. Uh,
51:11
we look forward to seeing that but yeah, I think
51:13
i'm gonna watch some more schitt's creek myself
51:15
So I got into it but one of those shows there's
51:17
so much I need to get into it I always need to
51:19
find a show that has lots of seasons because
51:21
I go through them too fast I hate when there's
51:22
only like one season so I know they have quite
51:24
a bit on that show So I feel like I got into
51:26
schitt's creek. So schitt's creek. I can't remember
51:28
how I found it Um, I think I just saw Like oh
51:33
eugene eugene levy katherin o 'hara chris elliot
51:36
like all these comedy heavyweights in a show
51:39
And maybe it was on Netflix that I first discovered
51:41
it. And I was like, Oh, let me check this out.
51:42
And then was like, Oh, this is like one of the
51:45
funniest fucking shows ever. And then it seemed
51:48
like more and more like the more I caught up
51:51
with it and watched it, like the internet, everybody
51:53
caught on to how brilliant the show was. And
51:56
then during the pandemic, they deservingly got
51:58
all those Emmys. So yeah, that's, that's so wonderful
52:02
that Schitt's Creek seems to be like this big
52:05
example of how talented Katherine O 'Hara is.
52:10
Absolutely. Yeah. Well, Mel, this was a great,
52:13
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52:16
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