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#1673 Two Bogans Walk Into A (Protein) Bar - Perry Venakis · The You Project

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Speaker 1: I'm good a team. I hope you bloody terrific. Before
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Speaker 1: we get underway with today's episode with Perry, I just
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Speaker 1: want to say that we cover a broad range of
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Speaker 1: subject matter, not surprisingly. Also we talk about lots about
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Speaker 1: food and doses and volume and supplements and micros and
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Speaker 1: macros and vitamins and minerals and hormones. I want to
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Speaker 1: just emphasize before we start, none of this is a
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Speaker 1: prescription or a personal recommendation. Just two dudes having a
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Speaker 1: chat about some interesting stuff. So if you are interested
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Speaker 1: in learning more about any of the stuff that we
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Speaker 1: talk about relevant for you and your needs, your biology,
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Speaker 1: your physiology, your diet, your supplement regime, have a chat
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Speaker 1: with somebody who is in the space relevant a professional,
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Speaker 1: a dietitian, a doctor, an exercise physiologist, somebody who's relevant
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Speaker 1: for that area of interest for you. But let's get underway.
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Speaker 1: I'll get our you, bloody champions, Welcome to another installment
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Speaker 1: you project. Craig Anthony Harper is my name? Fuck? And
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Speaker 1: how what a great day. It's Thursday, It's the tenth
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Speaker 1: of the tenth, It's twelve minutes past ten, and the
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Speaker 1: thriving metropolis of bayside Melbourne, where I'm currently at, and
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Speaker 1: up where the sun is at, and well it seems
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Speaker 1: like the fucking the torrential rain is at. It is
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Speaker 1: only nine to twelve pm in the am. In the
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Speaker 1: nine to twelve in the am, put your teeth in arps.
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Speaker 1: And Perry Venakis, a longtime friend and work colleague, is
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Speaker 1: joining us again on the show.
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Speaker 2: Get I buddy, the mister Harperdopolis. It's so good to
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Speaker 2: see you again. And in forty eight minutes I'll be
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Speaker 2: just as excited as you because it'll be tenth of
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Speaker 2: the tenth at ten o'clock. Then I should be bouncing
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Speaker 2: around outside him what should be sunshine. But unfortunately it's
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Speaker 2: pouring down to rechial rain today with hell storms et cetera.
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Speaker 2: You know, over one hundred milimeters of rain dropped through
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Speaker 2: last night. So yeah, fun and games today.
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Speaker 1: One hundred millimeters of one hundred millimeters of rain you
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Speaker 1: and I were talking about before we started. We pressed
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Speaker 1: to go. But there's four inches and you said that
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Speaker 1: that fell in around an hour, right, that's correct.
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Speaker 2: And it smashed down some shopping centers up in an
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Speaker 2: area called Morrowfield where wooll these people were shopping and
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Speaker 2: all of a sudden they got a deluge of water
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Speaker 2: on their head as it fell through the roof, and
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Speaker 2: Marshal Lastsenter copped it as well, so they got drenched.
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Speaker 2: But the hailstorm, it's incredible. It's just done so much
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Speaker 2: damage and destroyed properties, etc. It was coming in so fierce,
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Speaker 2: it was coming at a ninety degree angle in some areas.
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Speaker 2: So I know one of the guys I know had
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Speaker 2: popped these garage. He had his car in there and
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Speaker 2: by the time he closed the garage, his garage was
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Speaker 2: full of haarlestorm inside got down the back of the
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Speaker 2: actual garage itself.
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Speaker 1: So Mother Nature's fucked off at the moment. There's a
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Speaker 1: lot going on around the world. So a couple of
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Speaker 1: my friends, so Nicole Livingston, who you would have met
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Speaker 1: Nicole back in the day at Harper's. She was, of
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Speaker 1: course an Olympic swimmer, multiple world champion, Olympic medalist, three
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Speaker 1: time Olympian, boss of the afl W and now boss
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Speaker 1: of the Victorian Institute of Sports, so clearly an underachiever.
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Speaker 1: She's she's over in Florida at the moment with her son,
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Speaker 1: who's an elite baseballer. And also you would have met
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Speaker 1: back in the day when I was training the Melbourne
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Speaker 1: Vixen's and the Melbourne Phoenix. You may not remember exactly
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Speaker 1: who she is, but you would have met her Renee.
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Speaker 1: She was Renee Ingles, she's now she was Renee Helen
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Speaker 1: and now Rene Ingles. She's Her husband, Joe plays in
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Speaker 1: the NBA. She's also in Florida, and I've been doing
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Speaker 1: a bit of coaching with her and so like there,
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's not even bat and down on
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Speaker 1: the hatches, it's like, get the fuck out of dodge.
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Speaker 1: Like I saw this lady. She was the I don't know,
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Speaker 1: maybe the mayor of Orlando, or and she's like, if
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Speaker 1: you are in an area with whatever warnings and you stay,
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Speaker 1: you will die. Like that's what she said.
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Speaker 2: I'm like, fucking hew, I saw that. And there was
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Speaker 2: some guy that was in a boat and he's covered
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Speaker 2: himself up in this little boat gown. No, I'll be fine,
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Speaker 2: I'll just old weather it out. And the interviewer is
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Speaker 2: leaning over into the boat gown. Are you sure maybe
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Speaker 2: you'd want to sort of leave with us?
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Speaker 1: I know, I know this has got nothing to do
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Speaker 1: with food. But this is what's happening at them. We're
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Speaker 1: going to get to food everyone. But also and this one,
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Speaker 1: I'm like, this is like weird and macabre. This other
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Speaker 1: lady who was some kind of expert commentating on everything,
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Speaker 1: and she's like, if you don't evacuate and you decide
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Speaker 1: to stay, which essentially she was saying, you're a fucking idiot.
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Speaker 1: She didn't say that, but she might as well have.
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Speaker 1: She goes, make sure that you write your n on
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Speaker 1: your arm with a text, so when they find the
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Speaker 1: body they know who you are. I'm like, oh my god, imagine, yeah, Diane,
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Speaker 1: where are our black Texters?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to put one on your forehead just
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Speaker 2: in case your heat comes off your body. It'll be
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Speaker 2: a bit easier. I might write someone else's name just
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Speaker 2: to fuck with everyone. That might Actually that'ld be a
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Speaker 2: great way to go missing. You know, you've got all
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Speaker 2: these bills to pay. I'm like, I'm John Smith. There
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Speaker 2: you go and just putting you an extraor nahbor and
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Speaker 2: you take off.
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Speaker 1: Or what you oh? Yeah, but even more macab No,
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Speaker 1: I can't say it. No, I can't say it. I
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Speaker 1: can't hole where we might I might actually get banned
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Speaker 1: for the first time. I don't know who bans podcasts.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure someone does. So how's life in the Sunshine State?
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Speaker 1: How long you been in the Sunshine State? As I
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Speaker 1: said earlier, everyone Perry and I used to work together.
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Speaker 1: He lived down in Melbourne. Then he has built his
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Speaker 1: own amazing brand and business. But when did you move
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Speaker 1: to the Sunshine State.
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Speaker 2: I moved here about three years ago, now it's been
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Speaker 2: I went through the COVID dramas as we know, and
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Speaker 2: got locked in the detention center for two weeks before
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Speaker 2: they let me loose in Queensland. Now three years and
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Speaker 2: sort of settled into a completely different lifestyle, which I
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Speaker 2: absolutely love because I mean, I forget the rain that
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Speaker 2: we just had today, but two days ago it was
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Speaker 2: thirty three degrees blue skies. I live only a few
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Speaker 2: minutes from the beach. So the healthy living lifestyle, it
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Speaker 2: is incredible. It is just amazing. You can just get
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Speaker 2: out there and just take in a great weather and
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Speaker 2: appreciate where you are and you feel amazing. There's no pollution,
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Speaker 2: no praising this it's a little bit a little bit
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Speaker 2: slower than Melbourne, let's put it that way. You know,
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Speaker 2: two minutes from the beach. I'm five minutes from the
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Speaker 2: hint Lands. You can explore anything you want. And as
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Speaker 2: I've mentioned a while ago, two traig I bought a
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Speaker 2: great four will drive which you've seen, and you know.
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Speaker 2: I get on the beach, I drive for forty fifty
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Speaker 2: minutes along the sand where it's completely remote, end up
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Speaker 2: at a place called Double Island Point. There's this big
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Speaker 2: lake lagoon there that comes off from the ocean, and
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Speaker 2: sit there all day, just cook up some great food,
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Speaker 2: enjoy the sun, read a book, and then come back recharging.
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Speaker 2: You spent a whole day. They're just enjoying life and
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Speaker 2: appreciating everything. It's amazing.
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Speaker 1: I'm so fucking jealous when I come up next. Can
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Speaker 1: you take me to.
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Speaker 2: That place you are on Craiger and guess what I'll
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Speaker 2: cook you up one of the best steaks you could
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Speaker 2: ever have on the portable barbecue, or take up there
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Speaker 2: with me.
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Speaker 1: How are you allowed to just drive your road registered
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Speaker 1: vehicle along the beach well forty five minutes? What are
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Speaker 1: you driving it? Say? Forty k is an hour on
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Speaker 1: the sand or something.
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Speaker 2: Okay, here's an interesting thing. They actually have that area
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Speaker 2: allocated for four wall drive access only. And what they
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Speaker 2: do is they actually put speed limits up there so
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Speaker 2: you can do eighty kilometers an hour in some areas,
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Speaker 2: and then because there's camping areas along the beach, they
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Speaker 2: give you a forty k warning. And here's the really
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Speaker 2: interesting thing. They cover that area with drones and police
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Speaker 2: that are hidden with four wall drives in the bushes.
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Speaker 2: You're doing forty five, they will come and get you.
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Speaker 2: They'll just spend you down straight away and you're like,
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Speaker 2: oh lord, this lovely drone following me and nix menting
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Speaker 2: of the blue lights and pull over and instant find
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Speaker 2: straight away. And it's exactly the same fine as if
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Speaker 2: you're driving on a normal road. So if you've been
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Speaker 2: drinking and you're driving on the beach, you're in trouble.
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Speaker 1: That's so that's such an Australian thing, isn't it. It's like, well,
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Speaker 1: apart from the drones, but what about dirt bikes? Because
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Speaker 1: you know I'm a bike person. Would I be allowed
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Speaker 1: to ride a dirt bike.
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Speaker 2: Along there as long as it's registered? Yes?
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Speaker 1: Right? But no, but no, there's no Hyundai Atlantra's just
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Speaker 1: rocketing along there.
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Speaker 2: There is They usually end up either getting stuck in
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Speaker 2: the sand or float out in the ocean.
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Speaker 1: So though like so, they're not allowed. If they're just
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Speaker 1: irregular at Sedan though they're not allowed along there, they.
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Speaker 2: Can go on there. They're more than happy to go
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Speaker 2: on there. They'll allow any vehicle on there. But if
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Speaker 2: you're a fool and you've got to take a little
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Speaker 2: there and you realize it's too driving, you've got standard
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Speaker 2: wheels and you go out, you're done.
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Speaker 1: So if you're driving the thirty year old high UNDIXL
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Speaker 1: front wheel drive with skinny wheels, you're probably and high
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Speaker 1: pressure in the tires, you probably fucked.
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Speaker 2: Now, let's think about it. Yes, one hundred percent.
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Speaker 1: You should just hang out there all day and wait
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Speaker 1: for those people and go for one hundred and twenty bucks,
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Speaker 1: I'll take you back to the start.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know the tourists that like to come
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Speaker 2: along there and want to experiment. If they're carking get through,
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Speaker 2: I'll just hitch them up and pull them back out
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Speaker 2: and gets one hundred and twenty dollars. Or I'll let
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Speaker 2: you float out into the ocean. What would you like
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Speaker 2: to do now?
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Speaker 1: When you get to this the end point, the lagoon
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Speaker 1: that runs off. What do you mean, is it like
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Speaker 1: just a big salt water pool? But what is it?
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Speaker 2: It is huge, this massive, huge salt water pool area.
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Speaker 2: And it's near a place called Rainbow Beach, which is
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Speaker 2: a beautiful beach as well, and it's just a massive
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Speaker 2: area that would be maybe you know, three four kilometers
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Speaker 2: easy of beach land where everyone just parks it car.
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Speaker 2: You know, it sets up there camping equipment and yeah, relaxes.
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Speaker 2: I've got a real big two hundred and seventy degree
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Speaker 2: annex now on the vehicle, so it covers most of
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Speaker 2: the vehicle and open it up. Put the chairs out there,
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Speaker 2: open up the back, pull out the fridge, get the
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Speaker 2: barbecue going. Life's amazing, and you just enjoy it and
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Speaker 2: just have a nice relaxing day because you can't drive
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Speaker 2: back during the high tide. Once high tide comes up
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Speaker 2: that beach excess, you're locked in. You're going to stay there.
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Speaker 1: You wouldn't want to fuck up the timing, would you.
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Speaker 2: Well that's why you get told please check the tithe thing.
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Speaker 2: You've got to drive two hours of either side of
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Speaker 2: low tide. And my first adventure there, I was waiting
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Speaker 2: for a friend to guide me along to go down there,
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Speaker 2: And what happened was the barge that gets you across
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Speaker 2: onto the other side of the foreshore so you can
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Speaker 2: get your full driving there one had broken down, so
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Speaker 2: the line was really long. And then my friend rings
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Speaker 2: me up and says, I've got family problems with kids,
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Speaker 2: are sick. Can't make it. You have to go on
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Speaker 2: your own. So by the time I've got on the beach,
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Speaker 2: high tide was coming up. Did I have fun learning
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Speaker 2: how to drive my fad for the first time ever
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Speaker 2: on the sand with the ocean splashing up against the
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Speaker 2: car where they say, if the water hits you and
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Speaker 2: you think this is your car, would buy sow? Was
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Speaker 2: a fun adventure?
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Speaker 1: Oh god? Oh God? And how's business going?
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Speaker 2: Business is going well. It's been a bit slower to
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Speaker 2: start off with, as with anything you I suppose, and
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Speaker 2: people understanding what nutrition ninety is all about. But it's
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Speaker 2: picking up every day. There's a few more clients getting
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Speaker 2: on board. We're getting better results. I'm getting more and
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Speaker 2: more exposure now I'm having what's been really good actually
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Speaker 2: having people that I've looked up to as high profile
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Speaker 2: in the industry now messaging me directly and saying, hey,
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Speaker 2: I really love your content, love what you're sharing, you know,
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Speaker 2: keeping a great job. And it's been a bit of
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Speaker 2: an awakening for me to see that these people that
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Speaker 2: you know, I followed for years and have been actually
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Speaker 2: impressed with and then all of a sudden, now they're
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Speaker 2: messaging me, we're impressed with your work. Actually, one of
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Speaker 2: your doctor friends from America, doctor Alexander Rust, if you
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Speaker 2: remember her, yeah, I remember her peptides for the old
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Speaker 2: ladies that she's always messaging me and having the chat
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Speaker 2: and everything like that. She's been absolutely amazing.
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Speaker 1: So I'm pretty sure you can't say peptides for the
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Speaker 1: old ladies. You know, you're an old man and I'm
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Speaker 1: an old man.
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Speaker 2: Right, Yes, we're very old men. But it seems better
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Speaker 2: that way. But when you assume mature ladies, old ladies
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Speaker 2: that are beautiful, just like a wine that replied the
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Speaker 2: pip flights to make the mill work really well.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, she was. She was interesting. I had her
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Speaker 1: on the show a long time ago, and she's she's
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Speaker 1: pretty smart. She's pretty smart. How old are you now?
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Speaker 1: I just turned sixty one.
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Speaker 2: I am sixty one. I turned sixty one. In Jude.
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Speaker 2: How about you, Creig?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, same, same, just turned sixty one in a couple
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Speaker 1: of weeks ago, a few weeks ago. So you know
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Speaker 1: what's really interesting is, and I'm not just saying this
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Speaker 1: because it's it's you and me, but like I look
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Speaker 1: at you, and we worked together, we worked together for
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Speaker 1: quite a long time, but we probably we haven't worked
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Speaker 1: together for I don't know, fifteen or twenty years, but
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Speaker 1: you look a scent. I look older, I definitely look
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Speaker 1: fucking older, but you you pretty much look the same.
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Speaker 1: Like it's hard to be objective, you know, because my
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Speaker 1: relationship with you is subjective and everything, you know, the
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Speaker 1: Craig Harper bloody thing. Everything's subjective, right, But as an
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Speaker 1: objective as I can be, you look about fucking three
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Speaker 1: years older than you did twenty years ago, which is
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Speaker 1: very annoying. I don't know, do you reckon that's your
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Speaker 1: Greek heritage, your bloody amazing genetics, or your lifestyle or
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Speaker 1: what is that?
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Speaker 2: It's got to do with the headgel that I use.
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Speaker 1: You know, you know this is an audio you know,
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Speaker 1: you know this is audio only his bald It's been
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Speaker 1: bored as a fucking badger for our badge is bald,
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Speaker 1: though I don't think badges. I don't think. I don't
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Speaker 1: think badgers are bald.
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Speaker 2: It depends which way you flip them over.
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Speaker 1: You're a fucking idiot. Now, before we jump in how often,
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Speaker 1: I just want to talk about you a little bit.
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Speaker 1: I want to talk about your training because you're sixty one.
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Speaker 1: I'm sixty one, and I think some people think I'm
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Speaker 1: just a fucking unicorn. Not that I'm gifted. You've got
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Speaker 1: way better genetics than me, but you know, in terms
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Speaker 1: of how I think, and I always tell people or
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Speaker 1: I did a thing recently on strength training, like kind
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Speaker 1: of the nuts and bolts of you know, why, how when,
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Speaker 1: how much and how hard with strength trains, like really yeah,
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Speaker 1: And it was really just like opening the door for
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Speaker 1: people anywhere between beginners and somewhat intermediate, or perhaps people
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Speaker 1: who've been training for a while and want to kind
14:43
Speaker 1: of just revisit some of the fundamentals and think, am
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Speaker 1: I actually training progressively? Is there overload that's adequate? Or
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Speaker 1: am I in a fucking holding pattern? But one of
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Speaker 1: the questions that I get asked a lot is what
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Speaker 1: I do because people want to know, Yeah, but what
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Speaker 1: do you eat, how do you and how much waits?
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Speaker 1: How much cardio? Do you stretch? Do you fucking do
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Speaker 1: you have five minutes? Do you do fasting? Do you whatever?
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Speaker 1: And so I downloaded all that which I don't need
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Speaker 1: to again, but I want to know. So you at
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Speaker 1: sixty one in you know, not too great a detail,
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Speaker 1: but within reason, like, tell us about your eating, strength stuff.
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Speaker 1: I know that you have a martial arts background, you're
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Speaker 1: an elite taekwondo compareditor, black belt, blah blah blah. Tell
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Speaker 1: us about stretching, tell us about strength, tell us about
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Speaker 1: cardio if you do any I don't know if you do,
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Speaker 1: And give us just a window into your nutrition and
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Speaker 1: your lifestyle. I know that's a lot, but if you
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Speaker 1: could kind of give us because and the reason I
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Speaker 1: say this, I'll shut up after this. The reason I
15:48
Speaker 1: say this is because we have a lot of people
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Speaker 1: who are forty five plus who listen to this show,
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Speaker 1: and I want to encourage people that you don't need
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Speaker 1: to be old at any age, Like, irrespective of your age,
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Speaker 1: you don't need to be old, right, because I think
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Speaker 1: so much of being old is about thinking. And yeah,
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Speaker 1: of course there's a physiological component. But all right, so
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Speaker 1: I'll shut the fuck up, give us the story, the
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Speaker 1: story of you. I'll sum it up quickly.
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Speaker 2: Number one, you mentioned about Cardio, well, as we were
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Speaker 2: at the Harper Drome and we're all become bodybuilders, and
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Speaker 2: we threw Cardio out the door my perception, and that
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Speaker 2: has changed a little bit now. And now actually I
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Speaker 2: went out and bought a bike and I ride my
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Speaker 2: road bike down to the gym. What I've got a bike?
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Speaker 1: Who the fuck are you get Perry back one.
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Speaker 2: I'm the guy that used to run people off the
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Speaker 2: road with their bikes and now I'm a bike rider.
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Speaker 2: So you know, it's a bit of a contradiction there.
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Speaker 2: But I actually ride my bike to the gym, and
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Speaker 2: where I live it's hilly, so the ride there isn't
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Speaker 2: too bad. You get a bit of speed going down
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Speaker 2: the hill. It's after you work out trying to come
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Speaker 2: back the ride up the hill, and there's one hill
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Speaker 2: at the moment I'm just trying to conquer and it's
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Speaker 2: two minutes from my house. I've gotten ninety percent up
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Speaker 2: the way before I fall off the bike and get
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Speaker 2: out of the gutter and get some pull bystander to
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Speaker 2: come up and go you okay, And I'm.
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Speaker 1: So you got to try. You've got to try the
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Speaker 1: lower gears, mate, what there's more than one gear. That's
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Speaker 1: what happens when you buy a fixed wheel bike out
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Speaker 1: of the bloody paper from nineteen to seventy four.
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Speaker 2: Mayhey for seventy five dollars is a great deal. I'm
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Speaker 2: pretty happy. I'd even come with a seat this time.
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Speaker 2: I'm happy with it. So, yeah, I'll go to the gym.
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Speaker 2: I'll hit the gym a minimum of three times a week.
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Speaker 2: I try to get six times a week in and
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Speaker 2: I like to work on the philosophy. I'm doing three
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Speaker 2: body parts in the workout. I'll only do three sets
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Speaker 2: close to fail. I've ever got a faire for the
17:47
Speaker 2: major muscle groups, and I'll then try and retrain them
17:50
Speaker 2: four days later. But you know the worst case scenario,
17:52
Speaker 2: I'll do three training sessions. At the most, I do six,
17:56
Speaker 2: and I like to have the arrest, so I'll do
17:58
Speaker 2: three days on, one day off, days on again, and
18:00
Speaker 2: there's my seven day split. And yeah, I believe that
18:04
Speaker 2: you need to be functional. You need to have some
18:06
Speaker 2: muscle mass and strength so your body works effectively. And
18:10
Speaker 2: that you know, we're looking at bone density, and we
18:12
Speaker 2: also understand now that the muscle isn't just a muscle,
18:15
Speaker 2: it's a hormone itself too that releases my kids, which
18:18
Speaker 2: is great for the body and it's functions. So to
18:20
Speaker 2: feel amazing and to feel great, do the way training
18:23
Speaker 2: I do. The cardio in between you keep my heart
18:25
Speaker 2: health up as well too, and then that's basically it.
18:28
Speaker 2: That's to give a very fick synopsis of what I
18:31
Speaker 2: do nutrition wise, being a nutritionist and a bit psycho.
18:35
Speaker 2: When it comes to food, I am very meticulous about
18:38
Speaker 2: my food. As one of my friends come over the
18:40
Speaker 2: other day and said, why are you weighing your steak?
18:42
Speaker 2: Why are you weighing your vegetable? So I'm like, when
18:46
Speaker 2: you've got a fuel tanking your car, you've got to
18:47
Speaker 2: gauge to tell you how much how much sure you got? Right?
18:50
Speaker 2: You know, if I disconnected that gauge and you have
18:53
Speaker 2: to drive around Australia when you know you run out
18:55
Speaker 2: of fuel, you're done. So therefore, when it comes to nutrition,
18:59
Speaker 2: I'm aarticular So to make it really quick, it's basically
19:03
Speaker 2: I'm very much into having animal protein as my protein.
19:06
Speaker 2: Sawce so meat, fish, chicken, eggs, whete protein, any one
19:09
Speaker 2: of those. And then I have a large stack of
19:13
Speaker 2: vegetables because I very believe in keeping my micronutrient balance up,
19:17
Speaker 2: balancing out the animal protein with lots of fiber. And
19:20
Speaker 2: obviously the big issue that we start to see now
19:23
Speaker 2: is the diversity of microbiome in the gut. And by
19:26
Speaker 2: eating a lot of variety of foods like fruits and vegetables,
19:30
Speaker 2: et cetera, and eating the let's say the broccli, eating
19:32
Speaker 2: the head, but also eating the stalk as well, you're
19:35
Speaker 2: creating a better microbiome effect. Therefore, we know that now
19:39
Speaker 2: one hundred percent that microbiome effects brain function, but also
19:42
Speaker 2: other bodily functions as well. So having a healthy gut,
19:45
Speaker 2: as we call it, makes a healthy body. And maybe
19:48
Speaker 2: that's the secret why I look so great and amazing
19:51
Speaker 2: and glowing every day.
19:53
Speaker 1: And humble. How did that? You know you did a
19:55
Speaker 1: humility Yeah, you were telling me you did a humility
19:58
Speaker 1: workshop on the weekend and you were the best.
20:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, and even though I was doing only
20:03
Speaker 2: one in the class, it went really well, you're an idiot, all.
20:07
Speaker 1: Right, Okay. So but also we have the reality that
20:12
Speaker 1: the only person in the world with your DNA as
20:16
Speaker 1: you the only person with minus me. Right, and so
20:20
Speaker 1: let's talk to people. Let's talk a little bit about
20:23
Speaker 1: the idea of While there are broad principles that that work, like, yeah,
20:28
Speaker 1: we need to lift weights, we need to move, we
20:30
Speaker 1: need to do some cardio, some flexibility is good. Getting
20:33
Speaker 1: good sleep is important, you know, the right amount of
20:36
Speaker 1: micros and macros and energy, you know is important. What
20:41
Speaker 1: about helping people figure out how their body works individually? Like,
20:47
Speaker 1: you know, we can You and I are the same age.
20:49
Speaker 1: Let's say we go and get another eight sixty one
20:51
Speaker 1: year olds and we all eat the same food, the
20:54
Speaker 1: same amount, the same type, we all do the same workout,
20:57
Speaker 1: we all have the same amount of sleep, we don't
21:00
Speaker 1: get the same outcome. So this genetic variability, this individual
21:04
Speaker 1: variability from person to person, how does the person who's
21:08
Speaker 1: listening to this start to figure out what works optimally
21:13
Speaker 1: for their unique physiology.
21:16
Speaker 2: Okay, that's a really good point. And I think a
21:19
Speaker 2: lot of people don't realize that every body is different.
21:21
Speaker 2: That's using pinching one of your quotes, which I absolutely love,
21:24
Speaker 2: But it's true. Everybody is different. So we look at
21:28
Speaker 2: a producol of creating an assessment, and how do we
21:30
Speaker 2: do an assessment? We get a baseline, so we might
21:33
Speaker 2: someone's strength or tuddiovascular activity. We might ask them how
21:37
Speaker 2: they're feeling, you know, how much you sleep?
21:39
Speaker 1: Do?
21:39
Speaker 2: They get all little biomarkers to try and understand a baseline,
21:43
Speaker 2: and then we might create some change. So, for example, we
21:46
Speaker 2: might say, all right, today, we're going to get you
21:47
Speaker 2: to doing there and do a three week thing of
21:51
Speaker 2: body weight exercises and every week getting quintat with me
21:55
Speaker 2: on a Tuesday and just give me a rundown. How
21:57
Speaker 2: are you feeling? Are you sleeping better? Are you walking better?
22:00
Speaker 2: Can get ut of your car easier? Whatever little things
22:02
Speaker 2: like that we might say that might be working for them,
22:05
Speaker 2: or they might go, hey, I've just done this session.
22:08
Speaker 2: I am completely exhausted, i can't walk, I'm really tired,
22:12
Speaker 2: I'm falling asleep everywhere, and we go all right, well
22:14
Speaker 2: this hasn't worked for you, let's try a different protocol.
22:17
Speaker 2: But the most important thing is that we have a baseline,
22:19
Speaker 2: that we have an understanding of where they are right
22:22
Speaker 2: now when they come into our environment, what's actually happening
22:26
Speaker 2: with them? And if they want to go in deeper,
22:28
Speaker 2: we can get blood test done, so we have a
22:30
Speaker 2: very in depth blood panelt that one can do to
22:33
Speaker 2: see what's happening with their body and if there's any
22:35
Speaker 2: inflammatory markets going on. They see what the cholesterol levels like,
22:37
Speaker 2: what their living functions like, what kidney functions like, and
22:40
Speaker 2: then if they want to go another deeper level, they
22:42
Speaker 2: can also then go get a dexa scam to assist
22:45
Speaker 2: their bone density, their body fat mass, and the amount
22:49
Speaker 2: of muscle they have on their body. So it becomes
22:51
Speaker 2: an individual thing to what that client wants to find
22:55
Speaker 2: out about themselves and how in depth they want to go.
22:58
Speaker 2: The biggest concern I find with people, they'll come to
23:01
Speaker 2: me when they're actually sick, when I've actually hit rick war.
23:04
Speaker 2: Oh mate, I've been to the doctor and he said
23:06
Speaker 2: to me, I'm pre diabetic. Or you know, I've gotten
23:09
Speaker 2: up this morning and I've gone to put my shoes on,
23:11
Speaker 2: I've done, I'm back. What do I do? And that's
23:13
Speaker 2: a sad thing to see that they come to us
23:15
Speaker 2: broken rather than come to us before they break and go, hey,
23:19
Speaker 2: I'm sixty one. I've just had my sixty one birthday.
23:21
Speaker 2: When I get the seventy one, I want to be
23:23
Speaker 2: feeling amazing, feel optimal health, be able to run up
23:26
Speaker 2: that stairs, you know, go to the beach, go with
23:28
Speaker 2: Prague and Perry down to Double Island point and what
23:32
Speaker 2: do I need to do?
23:34
Speaker 1: Oh my god, No, we're not taking anyone. Fuck that.
23:37
Speaker 1: It's just you and me. They can get there themselves. Okay, okay,
23:42
Speaker 1: Now let's just put aside for the moment that not
23:45
Speaker 1: everyone can work with you. But we're going to talk
23:48
Speaker 1: about your stuff towards the end. But in general, though,
23:54
Speaker 1: like people can like, you don't need to be you
23:56
Speaker 1: or me, right, you don't need to have multiple degrees
23:59
Speaker 1: to be able to be scientific.
24:02
Speaker 2: Right.
24:03
Speaker 1: So like, so when we what I mean by that is,
24:08
Speaker 1: you know, Brian the truck driver, shout out to Brian
24:12
Speaker 1: the truck driver, God bless him. He might go, well,
24:15
Speaker 1: I'm going to just start to record a few things.
24:18
Speaker 1: I might get some as you call baseline data, and
24:21
Speaker 1: that might just be what's my what's my stomach measurement,
24:27
Speaker 1: my hip measurement, what's my body weight? You know, what's
24:30
Speaker 1: my energy level? If I had to do a subjective
24:33
Speaker 1: rating out of ten and then Brian the truck driver
24:37
Speaker 1: can start to put in place some what you and
24:40
Speaker 1: me would call protocols. Most people would just say changes
24:44
Speaker 1: where you do something, you try something, and then over
24:47
Speaker 1: time he or she or whoever can figure out what's working,
24:52
Speaker 1: because I mean, our body is always telling us something
24:55
Speaker 1: like our right. Our body's always talking to us right,
24:58
Speaker 1: and we need to learn that fucking language.
25:01
Speaker 2: This is the problem. Though people don't realize what their
25:04
Speaker 2: body's saying to them. They have accepted the fact that
25:06
Speaker 2: they feel like crap. And the biggest reason why I
25:09
Speaker 2: think this is is that let's say they're eight nineteen
25:12
Speaker 2: twenty running around feeling great, feeling amazing. You know, twenty
25:15
Speaker 2: years later of forty forty one, forty two, they've had
25:18
Speaker 2: twenty years of slow, slow incrementation of full food pull
25:24
Speaker 2: lifestyle choices, whatever, right, life's gotten in the way, So
25:28
Speaker 2: they slowly, slowly go down the rabbit hole of not
25:31
Speaker 2: feeling fantastic, of feeling suboptimal, having no energy, feeling it's
25:36
Speaker 2: better just to sit on the couch rather than go
25:38
Speaker 2: after a walk, and they just accept that as being normal.
25:41
Speaker 2: And this is the problem is that this feeling of
25:45
Speaker 2: normal is actually really bad. You're in poor health, and
25:48
Speaker 2: it's when they start to create change, like you said,
25:50
Speaker 2: put a protocol in or do something different to try
25:53
Speaker 2: and assist their health and world be and they go, oh,
25:55
Speaker 2: my god, I feel amazing, and we sit there and go, well,
25:58
Speaker 2: that amazing is actually normal. That's how you should be feeling.
26:02
Speaker 2: I had an experience like this about a month ago.
26:04
Speaker 2: What had happened with me is that we had a
26:06
Speaker 2: few things going on here a friend that had passed away,
26:09
Speaker 2: So that sort of put me in a bit of
26:10
Speaker 2: a bad headspace because I was trying to help him out,
26:13
Speaker 2: and yet it just went belly up. Long story short,
26:16
Speaker 2: that passed away and a few other things. So for
26:18
Speaker 2: those few days, I wasn't eating properly. I was pretty
26:21
Speaker 2: sad about what had happened. I fell sorry for the family, etc.
26:24
Speaker 2: Missed out on training, missed out on food. My slip
26:26
Speaker 2: was disrupted. By the end of the week, I was
26:29
Speaker 2: a mess. I was at a few days and I went,
26:31
Speaker 2: I need to force myself to eat properly in I
26:34
Speaker 2: need to get just open up the cupboard, get the
26:36
Speaker 2: food out, get back into routine. And within forty eight
26:39
Speaker 2: hours I was bouncing off the walls again and I
26:40
Speaker 2: could handle the stresses of life have been dished out
26:43
Speaker 2: to me. But it was just that instance, dainious shock
26:46
Speaker 2: of you know, one mid I'm talking to this person,
26:48
Speaker 2: next minute they've passed away. It's like, what just happened?
26:51
Speaker 2: And I've got the taste of what it's like to
26:55
Speaker 2: not eat well, not sleep well, not be active, and
26:57
Speaker 2: you know, just being a negative headspace. How can affecting you, Savili?
27:01
Speaker 2: And unfortunately a lot of people are like that every day.
27:04
Speaker 1: And it's sound it is, and it's it's and we
27:09
Speaker 1: don't mean this too in any ways sound judgmental listeners
27:12
Speaker 1: at all at all. That's actually coming from a place
27:14
Speaker 1: of you know, compassionate care. I want people to feel great.
27:19
Speaker 1: I want people to have energy. I want people to
27:21
Speaker 1: get out of bed and go.
27:22
Speaker 2: Fuck.
27:23
Speaker 1: I love being me. Ah, how good is it me?
27:26
Speaker 1: You know, Peza, It's interesting. I'm like you. I weigh
27:31
Speaker 1: my fucking dinner, I weigh my breakfast. I weigh you know,
27:34
Speaker 1: I have protein powder. Everyone knows almonds, oats, some cilium husk,
27:40
Speaker 1: and a few bits and pieces a few seeds in
27:41
Speaker 1: my breakfast. I weighed every day before I put whatever
27:45
Speaker 1: I put on it, milk whatever. It weighs one hundred
27:48
Speaker 1: and sixty gram so it's not a small breakfast, right,
27:50
Speaker 1: And I also weigh my dinner. How if I have
27:53
Speaker 1: most nights i'll have like meat and vegies, but I
27:56
Speaker 1: weigh the amount of you know, and that just works
27:58
Speaker 1: for me. And again this is not a recommendation for you,
28:01
Speaker 1: the listener, But not last night, the night before. So
28:08
Speaker 1: what's today? So that was tuesday. I'd had a massive day,
28:12
Speaker 1: and I every now and then I'll buy takeaway like
28:17
Speaker 1: I live in Hampton, as you know, there's a million
28:19
Speaker 1: fucking restaurants, and I'll go and get some some Thai food, chicken, veggies, rice, whatever.
28:24
Speaker 1: And when I was I don't know, in my twenties
28:28
Speaker 1: and thirties, I used to eat pasta like a motherfucker.
28:31
Speaker 1: But I rarely eat past it, right, I just anyway,
28:35
Speaker 1: the other night I went and I got I went
28:37
Speaker 1: fuck it like I'd not eaten much food just because
28:42
Speaker 1: my day was crazy, and I just ordered tortellini bolonnaise. Right, dude,
28:48
Speaker 1: I've felt like so we are now ten forty, I
28:52
Speaker 1: can still feel that that was two nights ago, and
28:56
Speaker 1: it's not like the actual calories that I ate wouldn't
29:00
Speaker 1: been more than my normal dinner. But it's so funny.
29:04
Speaker 1: My body has been going to me for the last
29:06
Speaker 1: thirty six hours, what the fuck is wrong with you?
29:11
Speaker 1: And now I'm not saying donat passa everyone, I'm not
29:13
Speaker 1: saying donut to Ord Lennie, but my body has very
29:17
Speaker 1: clearly told me don't do that again. I do not
29:21
Speaker 1: like it. And it's funny because you wouldn't think. I
29:24
Speaker 1: mean just typically, but oh my god, dude, I feel
29:29
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm starting to come good now, but I
29:31
Speaker 1: felt heavy in the I wasn't psychological. Physiologically, I felt ah.
29:37
Speaker 1: I didn't. I felt like low level nausea and I
29:41
Speaker 1: just felt blah. And also I actually think it impaired
29:45
Speaker 1: my cognition.
29:46
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised. I have a similar story. One
29:49
Speaker 2: of my clients who's now become a good friend messaged
29:52
Speaker 2: me and he goes, actually hate you, and I'm like,
29:54
Speaker 2: that's a really nice message. Why and he goes, well,
29:56
Speaker 2: I went out with my girlfriend down a live on
29:58
Speaker 2: the street for those of that that's a nice alien
30:00
Speaker 2: restaurant area and they've gone out and splurge and he's
30:03
Speaker 2: had dessert, et cetera. Now, he's been fanatical about getting
30:06
Speaker 2: his health back on track. Was out of healthcare two
30:08
Speaker 2: years ago, so he has been eating what we term
30:10
Speaker 2: as clean, consistent home cooking, et cetera. They've gone out
30:14
Speaker 2: to celebrate with his partner. He reckons. By the time
30:17
Speaker 2: he got home, he was on that toilet and yeah,
30:21
Speaker 2: like let's say, exploding volpain and he goes, I hate you,
30:23
Speaker 2: he goes, my body just can't handle eating. You don't
30:26
Speaker 2: processed food anymore. That's all your fault. And I've said,
30:29
Speaker 2: I'm really sorry, but you know you're actually fifteen kilos
30:31
Speaker 2: lighter and all your blood taste to shine that you're
30:34
Speaker 2: in optimal health. So yeah, blame the bald brick. It's
30:37
Speaker 2: all good. I'll pop it on the chin.
30:39
Speaker 1: I think just like when you are, you know, suboptimal,
30:45
Speaker 1: you know you're not in a great place physically, and
30:48
Speaker 1: as you were talking about a moment ago, you think, oh,
30:51
Speaker 1: this is normal. Then when you get healthy, I mean functional, energetic,
30:56
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about what you look like everybody. I'm
30:59
Speaker 1: not talking about what you're weight is, you know, but
31:01
Speaker 1: just whatever that is. When you get when you're in
31:04
Speaker 1: a better place like I it's kind of although it's bad,
31:10
Speaker 1: but it's for me. Sometimes it's good to do that,
31:12
Speaker 1: have a bit of pasta because it makes me realize
31:16
Speaker 1: how good I normally feel, because I because my energy,
31:21
Speaker 1: my everything, my cognitive function, my training, my strength, everything
31:25
Speaker 1: is I think maybe I take it for granted a
31:28
Speaker 1: little bit because I've never really stopped right. It's like you,
31:33
Speaker 1: it's like I've I've never really like, I've never taken
31:37
Speaker 1: more than in the last forty five years. The most
31:40
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have trained would be one week and I
31:43
Speaker 1: can't even remember when that would have been.
31:45
Speaker 2: Right.
31:46
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean my diet's always been fucking optimal. That
31:49
Speaker 1: definitely has been a problem at times. But you know,
31:52
Speaker 1: for the last twenty years, I would say my diet
31:55
Speaker 1: has been, you know, as close to optimal as I
31:58
Speaker 1: can have it. But yeah, that when you feel really good,
32:03
Speaker 1: but your normal state is feeling really good, you kind
32:07
Speaker 1: of lose perspective and then when you feel shit, you're like, ah, fuck,
32:12
Speaker 1: this is horrible. I just want yesterday back when I
32:16
Speaker 1: wasn't eating this.
32:18
Speaker 2: And look, you mentioned it to all. Two is that
32:20
Speaker 2: it's become a way of life for us. Well, what
32:22
Speaker 2: we're doing, the way we eat, the way we train,
32:23
Speaker 2: the way we move, the way we sleep is now
32:26
Speaker 2: a normal aspect of our lifestyle. But that's how it was.
32:30
Speaker 2: Two hundred years ago. There was a packet of Colvin Ships,
32:34
Speaker 2: Senior Eminem's and all this that was there. There was
32:36
Speaker 2: no fast food places, so back then they were eating
32:40
Speaker 2: everything that came out of the earth or anything that
32:42
Speaker 2: was running around, et cetera. That's the way, you know,
32:44
Speaker 2: my grandparents ate and why my parents ate when they
32:47
Speaker 2: got here until they discovered, you know, Kentucky Fried Chicken.
32:52
Speaker 1: Shout out, Shout out to KFC, one of our biggest sponsors.
32:57
Speaker 1: No they're not. I actually have been offered a couple
33:01
Speaker 1: of not through KFC, but other well known fast food
33:04
Speaker 1: outlets as sponsors for the show.
33:07
Speaker 2: And I've been approached for some supplement companies that I've
33:11
Speaker 2: just gone, ah, yeah, no, thank you.
33:14
Speaker 1: Well, I had to say, have you listened to my
33:16
Speaker 1: fucking show? As if do you know what I do? Anyway? Hey,
33:22
Speaker 1: so we were going to do a show talking about
33:25
Speaker 1: myths and fallacies around food, but look at us, we
33:27
Speaker 1: haven't done that. But let's talk about a few anyway,
33:30
Speaker 1: I want to.
33:32
Speaker 2: I want to.
33:34
Speaker 1: Just a few things that I guess a lot of
33:35
Speaker 1: people are either misunderstand or curious about, or perhaps even
33:43
Speaker 1: a few topics that are somewhat divisive in that there's
33:47
Speaker 1: different there's two different schools of thought. So there's an
33:53
Speaker 1: idea that salt, you know, putting salt on our food
33:56
Speaker 1: is bad for us? What say you, Judge Perry.
34:01
Speaker 2: Judge Perry is now taken over the stand and we'll
34:03
Speaker 2: be discussing this clearly with you, salt. If you have
34:07
Speaker 2: a high pertension, promise, have you've got high blood pressure?
34:10
Speaker 2: We need to look at whether it's a renal condition
34:12
Speaker 2: or as a genetic issue, or whether it's got to
34:14
Speaker 2: do with your nutrition. Now, a lot of the times
34:17
Speaker 2: has got to do with the fact that you're eating
34:18
Speaker 2: a lot of ultra process food. There's a lot of
34:21
Speaker 2: hidden sodium in there, or you haven't just read the
34:23
Speaker 2: label to realize how much salt you're getting in through
34:26
Speaker 2: the day. So therefore your blood pressure goes through the roof.
34:29
Speaker 2: Your hydration system in your body has changed completely as
34:34
Speaker 2: well too, So we start to have a lot of
34:36
Speaker 2: issues here going on. But if you're a whole food eater.
34:39
Speaker 2: If you're eating a lot of fruit and vegetables and
34:41
Speaker 2: nuts and you don't buy any process food, you actually
34:44
Speaker 2: need salt and all the trace mineral eons that come
34:47
Speaker 2: with that to make it affecting your body. See, your
34:49
Speaker 2: body can work effectively. So in the end ninety program
34:53
Speaker 2: that I run, because it's a whole full basis, my
34:55
Speaker 2: clients must be put in there anywhere between one to
34:57
Speaker 2: five brands of Celtic salt in their food per day.
35:01
Speaker 2: And initially people sort of get scared and they go, oh,
35:03
Speaker 2: what do you mean. I'm like one, Celtic salts got
35:05
Speaker 2: a lower amount of sodium compared to the other nutrients
35:08
Speaker 2: that any and the other micronutrients. But more importantly, it's
35:11
Speaker 2: going to assist with all the other bodily functions, Like
35:13
Speaker 2: there's calcium, magnetesium, potassium, and the list goes on and
35:17
Speaker 2: on and on which you require for bodily function. It's
35:21
Speaker 2: when we isolate the sodium, so you get you know,
35:23
Speaker 2: the old sacks assault that my mum and dad used
35:25
Speaker 2: to put all over their food because I thought this
35:26
Speaker 2: is cheap and easy. Well it is cheap and easy,
35:29
Speaker 2: but that shoots your blood pressure up through the roof,
35:32
Speaker 2: and there's no other benefit to it. There's no o
35:34
Speaker 2: the other traces and minerals that you require. So salt
35:37
Speaker 2: I'd give people the thumbs up. Basically your nutrition and
35:40
Speaker 2: if you're eating whole foods, you're going to need it.
35:42
Speaker 2: You're going to need to put solving your steak, You're
35:44
Speaker 2: going to need to put salt in your vegetables to
35:46
Speaker 2: have your body functioning effectively. And again the old thing,
35:50
Speaker 2: Let's monitor it. Let's work out how much you need
35:52
Speaker 2: as an individual to make it work effectively for you.
35:55
Speaker 1: All Right, love it, by the way, that's not a
35:57
Speaker 1: recommendation to just go crazy un sold everyone, But I'm
36:03
Speaker 1: where do people get Celtic salt?
36:04
Speaker 2: By the way, any health food shop will get it,
36:07
Speaker 2: or you can buy it online as well too. Make
36:09
Speaker 2: sure it's the unrefinedment because unfortunately, because people see Celtic
36:12
Speaker 2: salt and it's an original state, it's a gray width
36:16
Speaker 2: type of salt. Because it's unrefined, some companies refine it
36:19
Speaker 2: and make it look white, and when they've done it,
36:21
Speaker 2: they've actually taken some of the good qualities out of it.
36:23
Speaker 2: So be aware that the salt that you'll buy will
36:25
Speaker 2: have a great color and it will be moisty. Come'm
36:28
Speaker 2: putting in normal shaky and if you use your fingers
36:30
Speaker 2: to grab it and sprinkle it over your food.
36:33
Speaker 1: Wow, moist salt. Who would have thought that could be
36:36
Speaker 1: the name of the show moist salt. I'm writing that
36:38
Speaker 1: down right now. All right, we could do a whole
36:43
Speaker 1: show on this, but just give us like sixty to
36:46
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty seconds on some of the confusion
36:49
Speaker 1: around carbs, because I mean, carbs could be a fucking
36:53
Speaker 1: handful of lollies, or it could be mashed potato, or
36:57
Speaker 1: it could be a bowl full of fucking steamed veggie
37:00
Speaker 1: or an apple. So give us the just just give
37:03
Speaker 1: us a little bit of insight.
37:05
Speaker 2: Okay. So all carbohydrates are not the same day. All
37:07
Speaker 2: will break down into either fructose or glucose into the
37:10
Speaker 2: body to get absorbed, and fructose will get broken down again.
37:13
Speaker 2: But the process that fructose goes breaks down within the
37:16
Speaker 2: body goes through the liver first, so there's a little
37:19
Speaker 2: bit of a difference. And when it comes to fructose
37:21
Speaker 2: and eating fruit, the problem with sugar is is that
37:23
Speaker 2: people look at sugar on its own and we'll have
37:26
Speaker 2: let's say, sugar sweetened beverages, or they're adding sugar to
37:29
Speaker 2: every food that they've gotten there, like they make a
37:31
Speaker 2: cake and you'll see they'll go put one hundred and
37:33
Speaker 2: fifty grams of sugar in there. Anything in such a
37:35
Speaker 2: high dose is going to cause a problem with the body.
37:38
Speaker 2: Any any individual item that we take is going to
37:41
Speaker 2: create a problem within the body if the dosage is
37:44
Speaker 2: too high. So with sugar, sugar is fine. There is
37:47
Speaker 2: no problems with sugar. You will not get diabetes. With sugar.
37:50
Speaker 2: You will not get the bone put on fat if
37:52
Speaker 2: you're having carbs on at night. It's yeah, all these fallacies.
37:55
Speaker 2: It's understanding that the energy balance of energy in versus
37:59
Speaker 2: energy out. So you've got someone that can explain it
38:02
Speaker 2: to you effectively and understand what your energy output is
38:04
Speaker 2: and then you balance it out with your intake. And
38:07
Speaker 2: a carbohydrate is a macro nutrient that we need to
38:10
Speaker 2: monitor and we need to understand the carbohydrates and sugar
38:14
Speaker 2: basically are an energy source for the body that don't
38:17
Speaker 2: make you fat. What makes you fat is eating way
38:19
Speaker 2: too much of anything. You eat too much protai and
38:22
Speaker 2: you're going to get fat. You eat too much fat,
38:23
Speaker 2: you're going to get fat. You eat too many carbs,
38:25
Speaker 2: you're going to get fat. So the realistic approach is
38:29
Speaker 2: to understand what carbohydrates and should we do within the
38:32
Speaker 2: body itself, and then monitor it and have the right
38:35
Speaker 2: amount that's going to suit you. So, yes, you can
38:37
Speaker 2: have carbs at night, you will not get fat. Yes
38:40
Speaker 2: you can have a piece of fruit before you go
38:41
Speaker 2: to bed, you will not get diabetes. The interesting thing is, though,
38:45
Speaker 2: and this is one thing I've explained with a couple
38:47
Speaker 2: of my clients, if you have a big carbohydrate meal
38:49
Speaker 2: before you go to bed and you are getting blood
38:52
Speaker 2: tests on the next morning, I've proved this over and
38:54
Speaker 2: over again that your blood glucose level in the morning
38:57
Speaker 2: in the fastest state, will be elevated. Now, if you're
39:00
Speaker 2: on borderline already and then you have carbs at night
39:02
Speaker 2: and you go to your doctor, that might say you're
39:04
Speaker 2: pre diabetic. So always advise people, if you're getting blood
39:07
Speaker 2: TIS done, please have your carves before lunchtime. And then
39:10
Speaker 2: if you're having anything else with which are carbohdlates, such
39:12
Speaker 2: as vegetables they're fibrous, don't have too many of them.
39:15
Speaker 2: Let the body work into its normal state, so we
39:17
Speaker 2: get on a state of homeostasis wing you're getting your
39:20
Speaker 2: blood works done.
39:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. And what's interesting is I think
39:24
Speaker 1: people try and just bring, you know, obesity or dysfunction
39:29
Speaker 1: or poor health down to one thing. Oh it's carps,
39:34
Speaker 1: and you're like, there's so many fucking variables, right, and
39:38
Speaker 1: not even you know, it's like you said, you eat
39:41
Speaker 1: too much of anything, You're going to gain Wait, you're
39:43
Speaker 1: going to gain fat. So you could have you could
39:47
Speaker 1: have the perfect diet in terms of what you're eating,
39:51
Speaker 1: the quality of food, the type of food, like you said,
39:55
Speaker 1: everything that was grown or running around or swimming. You know,
39:58
Speaker 1: you could have all whole foods, but you have a
40:01
Speaker 1: thousand calories a day more than you need. Guess what,
40:05
Speaker 1: you know it ain't healthy. Yes, the food sauce is healthy,
40:09
Speaker 1: the type of food that you are eating is healthy.
40:12
Speaker 1: But the volume of food that you are eating is unhealthy.
40:16
Speaker 1: And you know what else is I was going to
40:19
Speaker 1: say frustrating. It's not frustrating, it's just fucking annoying. Is that,
40:24
Speaker 1: you know, despite the fact that we're more educated, more
40:27
Speaker 1: researched and all of that than ever. And yes we
40:30
Speaker 1: need to talk about all the minutia and the variables
40:32
Speaker 1: around micros and macros and quality of food and the
40:34
Speaker 1: thermogenic effective food and all that. We're going to talk
40:37
Speaker 1: about that in a minute. But the bottom line is
40:40
Speaker 1: most Australians just fucking eat too much. But I mean,
40:44
Speaker 1: that's it the end.
40:46
Speaker 2: And you know what, when we do a self report analysis,
40:49
Speaker 2: so we getting to do a food frequency report, it
40:51
Speaker 2: has been proven. I think percent of these people under
40:54
Speaker 2: risk them what they're eating. Of course I only had
40:57
Speaker 2: a bag of chips, but they had four or you know,
41:00
Speaker 2: I only had one slice of pizza. It was two massive,
41:03
Speaker 2: large pieces that you ate and we forget the alcohol
41:05
Speaker 2: that you had to wash it down with. You know,
41:07
Speaker 2: it is incredible to actually see that. And when you
41:10
Speaker 2: have people that actually when we do surveys and we
41:13
Speaker 2: actually have people that monitor in their lifestyle that they're
41:16
Speaker 2: actually with them when they report what they've eaten, and
41:19
Speaker 2: when we see what they've eaten, eighty percent of the time,
41:21
Speaker 2: it's very different and it makes it frustrating. It really does.
41:24
Speaker 2: It creates the problem because you're trying to identify a
41:28
Speaker 2: problem to give them a solution, and they're like giving
41:30
Speaker 2: you the actual facts, and like you said, they're just
41:33
Speaker 2: over eat and I don't realize that overeating. They're like, hey,
41:36
Speaker 2: I had two big Macs. Well you know I didn't
41:38
Speaker 2: have the diet coke. I didn't Sorry, I didn't have
41:40
Speaker 2: a coke, had a diet coke. So it's fine.
41:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And I mean, look, it's it's it's it's
41:48
Speaker 1: also hard for and I'm not giving anyone to get
41:51
Speaker 1: out of jail card. But you know, like as somebody
41:55
Speaker 1: who has struggled with food a lot of his life,
41:57
Speaker 1: and you know, when you've been eating a certain way
42:00
Speaker 1: and you socialize a certain way, and you know you
42:04
Speaker 1: are somewhat addicted to a certain way of eating, and
42:08
Speaker 1: it can be fucking addictive because whether or not you
42:10
Speaker 1: love Big Max or fucking Heroine or gambling, it's producing
42:15
Speaker 1: the same effect in your brain, which is dopamine, right,
42:18
Speaker 1: so you know, and the problem is if or the
42:23
Speaker 1: challenges I guess, like when you are used to eating
42:26
Speaker 1: a certain way and it gives you that although it
42:29
Speaker 1: doesn't make you feel great overall, but in the moment,
42:31
Speaker 1: like if you love fucking quarter pounders and you have
42:33
Speaker 1: a quarter pounder for about seven minutes. You're so fucking happy, right,
42:38
Speaker 1: But it's after the seven minutes that you start to
42:42
Speaker 1: feel like dogshit. I wanted to I wanted to just
42:47
Speaker 1: talk to you about something that I hadn't intended to,
42:50
Speaker 1: but this is really relevant. So I often get people
42:53
Speaker 1: come to me pez and go, oh, can you look
42:55
Speaker 1: at this? And they hand me a can of something. Right,
42:58
Speaker 1: someone handed me a can of something recently, and it's
43:01
Speaker 1: like this, it's like a multi you know, like everything
43:07
Speaker 1: in it like a daily picked me up kind of
43:10
Speaker 1: you know, a little bit like a one Greens or
43:13
Speaker 1: whatever it's called. You know those things. Anyway, so the
43:17
Speaker 1: person gives me this canon. I look at the cannon
43:20
Speaker 1: on the back of the fucking vitamin this and vitamin
43:22
Speaker 1: that and all these minerals, and you know, it's like
43:26
Speaker 1: the list is like as long as you're arm there's
43:29
Speaker 1: like fucking fifty thing. I'm like, this is magic. Well
43:32
Speaker 1: I'm not like, They're like this is magic. It's got
43:34
Speaker 1: all the shit in it. And then I start reading
43:37
Speaker 1: the quantities, right, I'm like, yeah, I go it is
43:42
Speaker 1: in here, but do you know how much like, for example,
43:46
Speaker 1: vitamin C or magnesium or whatever is a therapeutic dose. Well,
43:50
Speaker 1: this has got about one fiftieth of what you need
43:55
Speaker 1: for the day, right, And so so there are all
43:59
Speaker 1: these products that go, oh, it's got all this stuff
44:02
Speaker 1: in it, but it's at such a low fucking dose
44:06
Speaker 1: that it doesn't do anything. So technically they're not lying, right,
44:11
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but you might need I mean, it depends
44:13
Speaker 1: who you talk to, but I reckon you need a
44:16
Speaker 1: fair bit of vitamin C. What's your what's your RDI
44:19
Speaker 1: on vitamin C?
44:21
Speaker 2: I need to look up the NRV because they've actually
44:23
Speaker 2: changed about six months ago, so we have to rather
44:26
Speaker 2: make a quoto number or a figure. We go to
44:28
Speaker 2: the National Reference Values and anyone can access these and
44:31
Speaker 2: just type in vitamin C and we actually see how
44:34
Speaker 2: much vitamin C you need.
44:37
Speaker 1: Good idea, You know, we need to find the right
44:39
Speaker 1: not just the right fucking you know, micro macro nutrient
44:43
Speaker 1: or mineral or vitamin, but also at the right dose.
44:46
Speaker 2: Right. Well, two, I'm going to be get with two
44:48
Speaker 2: points here, Craig number one. Unless I will use magnesum
44:51
Speaker 2: as an example. Everyone thinks they need magnesium to sleep better,
44:53
Speaker 2: to feel better, et cetera. But there are so many
44:56
Speaker 2: different types of magnesium. I think there's four different types
44:59
Speaker 2: of agnice. So they're buying the magnesium to assault so
45:02
Speaker 2: you can absorb in the body. Usually with a product
45:04
Speaker 2: like that that's got four hundred and seventy two things
45:06
Speaker 2: listened to it, what you find is is that quality
45:09
Speaker 2: of magnesis ignising is a really shit one. Excuse the
45:11
Speaker 2: French here, but it's a really low gradear that it's
45:14
Speaker 2: not biovailable because it's so cheap and it's easy for
45:17
Speaker 2: them put in there, and you look at it and go,
45:19
Speaker 2: I've got magnesium in here, but your body can't even
45:21
Speaker 2: process that, So what's the point. Secondly, you know you
45:25
Speaker 2: talk about vitamin C fantastic, right. We know that for
45:28
Speaker 2: the body to work, we might need X amount, thousand
45:30
Speaker 2: milligrams whatever of vitamin C, but how do you know
45:34
Speaker 2: how much you need as an individual? Blood works, blood tests,
45:38
Speaker 2: Rather than go out and buy all this stuff and
45:40
Speaker 2: spend hundreds of dollars on all these supplements because John
45:44
Speaker 2: up the road told me this is really good, and
45:46
Speaker 2: TikTok was saying that I need magnesium, and the guy
45:49
Speaker 2: next door was saying he's vitamin D deficient. So I
45:52
Speaker 2: must be vitamin deficient because we live next door to
45:54
Speaker 2: each other and go out and spend one hundreds of
45:56
Speaker 2: dollars on all these vitamins. We can spend a twenty
46:00
Speaker 2: nine dollars and go to your doctor and get a
46:01
Speaker 2: filled blood panel done and go, hey, look at my
46:04
Speaker 2: zinc levels, they're low. Look at my magnesium levels they're high.
46:08
Speaker 2: Look at my vitamin D levels. I live in Queensland,
46:10
Speaker 2: they're off the clock. Look and what people don't realize
46:14
Speaker 2: is is that they have the dose is what creates
46:17
Speaker 2: the poison. So let's say my might have mid D
46:19
Speaker 2: level is right up on the upper limit. Right, So
46:21
Speaker 2: we know in Australia used to be fifty to two
46:24
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty per litter. Now it's changed to fifty
46:27
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty. Why whether at bets and there's
46:31
Speaker 2: a lot in my opining. You know, it's a long
46:32
Speaker 2: story why I think why they've dropped the level. But
46:34
Speaker 2: if you're let's say, going off the old scale of
46:36
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty, you're two hundred and forty, and
46:38
Speaker 2: then you start to mega those ten thousand iu a
46:41
Speaker 2: day and you go now three fifty four hundred all
46:44
Speaker 2: of a sudden, the risk of causing you know, hiding
46:47
Speaker 2: and barteries, et cetera, goes through the roof. And it's
46:50
Speaker 2: all because you didn't get a blood test to see
46:52
Speaker 2: where you're at before you get started, before you spend
46:54
Speaker 2: the three hundred and ninety five dollars to get it
46:57
Speaker 2: from some company from the Amazon that sends that I
47:00
Speaker 2: a via plane and two ships to get to you.
47:03
Speaker 2: So you've got this unique form of vitamin D that's
47:05
Speaker 2: got a label on it that you can't read.
47:10
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to be the devil's advocate for a moment.
47:12
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I don't disagree on anything. But
47:15
Speaker 1: also even when we go, oh, or the RDI or
47:18
Speaker 1: the what was that other organization you said, mate.
47:22
Speaker 2: Well, the National Reference for which actually recommend daily intakes
47:25
Speaker 2: and stuff, Well that's got the lower limit everything in there.
47:28
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, Like, who's to say that, Let's just go,
47:32
Speaker 1: let's just I don't know whatever the fucking the x
47:34
Speaker 1: y Z mineral you the recommendation for you and me
47:39
Speaker 1: is a thousand milligrams, And we get you and I
47:43
Speaker 1: get tested and we're both low in the x y
47:46
Speaker 1: Z whatever. And then so the prescription is a thousand
47:49
Speaker 1: milligrams a day. Then there's the other fact that my
47:54
Speaker 1: physiology in your physiology might respond differently to the exact
47:58
Speaker 1: same dose of the exact thing, and it's definitely not
48:01
Speaker 1: going to produce the exact same benefit because again we're
48:06
Speaker 1: genetically different. So you know, like even with urdies, it's like, yeah,
48:13
Speaker 1: I reckon, definitely we need them because we need to.
48:17
Speaker 1: You know, like one of my friends went and got
48:19
Speaker 1: his testosterone checked. Now he's fifty five or something, and
48:25
Speaker 1: his testosterone is like through the fucking floor, and I
48:29
Speaker 1: can't tell you all the symptoms, but you could guess
48:32
Speaker 1: what the symptoms are, right, And apart from losing muscle mass,
48:38
Speaker 1: he's depressed, he's got and I think and this is
48:43
Speaker 1: a whole other podcast, but I think that, you know,
48:46
Speaker 1: like part of it is because his testosterone level is
48:50
Speaker 1: incredibly low. It's like a ninety year old man and
48:52
Speaker 1: the doctor basically said to him, well, you know you're
48:55
Speaker 1: in your fifties. That happens on your way rather than going, well,
49:00
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe we could try a therapeutic dose,
49:04
Speaker 1: you know, just like with women, where we replace estrogen
49:07
Speaker 1: and progesterone and we call it HRT or there's different
49:10
Speaker 1: protocols and different ideas, you know. But the thing is
49:13
Speaker 1: that maybe we'll have a chat about this one day.
49:16
Speaker 1: But even with this with like, men have an endocrime
49:19
Speaker 1: system as do women, and men have a dominant sex
49:21
Speaker 1: or moment it's called testosterone. But because there's such an
49:24
Speaker 1: issue around buff edge using steroids, we can't even have
49:28
Speaker 1: this conversation for when there's this you know, opportunity or
49:34
Speaker 1: perhaps this medical reality for some men to explore some
49:41
Speaker 1: kind of hormonal treatment that's analogous to what women do
49:46
Speaker 1: or use, but you know, for the dominant male hormone.
49:49
Speaker 2: You know.
49:50
Speaker 1: But it's like, ah, no, no, Like, it's just so
49:53
Speaker 1: fucking dumb that we can't just treat some things, you know.
49:58
Speaker 1: And I'm talking about clinic call treatment. I'm not talking
50:01
Speaker 1: about people's self administering or any bullshit. I'm just talking
50:05
Speaker 1: about you know, does that ever frustrate you that? Oh mate?
50:09
Speaker 2: I like, you know, I do a lot on blood testing,
50:11
Speaker 2: even though I'm not a doctor or a dietitian, so
50:14
Speaker 2: I can't prescribe. I can only offer my opinion on stuff.
50:16
Speaker 2: And I've had let's say some in depth conversations with
50:19
Speaker 2: doctors regarding people's blood tests, and when I see stuff
50:23
Speaker 2: like this, whether it's some optimal testosterone level, and the
50:26
Speaker 2: guy's complaining here erect of dysfunction, I'm losing muscle mass,
50:30
Speaker 2: I'm feeling like crap, etc. And go to the doctor
50:33
Speaker 2: where you can see everything else is normal except this testostera.
50:36
Speaker 2: Why can't you give him even just a basic gel
50:38
Speaker 2: a testojel that he can use to help elevate him.
50:41
Speaker 2: And then with what you mentioned before, how you and
50:44
Speaker 2: I could take a thousand milligrams or something, we see
50:46
Speaker 2: how I respond. The way to check that is to
50:48
Speaker 2: retest your blood work. So six weeks later or twelve
50:50
Speaker 2: weeks later, redoing your blood testing might find a thousand
50:53
Speaker 2: milligrams worked amazing for you, but for me, because I've
50:56
Speaker 2: got no hair, I need five thousand milligrams. And that's
51:00
Speaker 2: the thing we've got to retest after we take something.
51:03
Speaker 2: We don't just assume that it's fine. And secondly, this
51:06
Speaker 2: stuff with the humans where we've got a differentiation between
51:10
Speaker 2: females and males, where females can go yep, I'm going
51:13
Speaker 2: through perimidoporesal and our menopausal I can go a hi
51:17
Speaker 2: ten and it's easy, and it's I think you've got
51:19
Speaker 2: our adoptor as a male, and you complain of all
51:21
Speaker 2: your issues and your testosterone levels.
51:24
Speaker 1: Alw.
51:25
Speaker 2: It is so rare and very difficult for them to
51:27
Speaker 2: prescribe you with any form of testosterone replacement therapy to
51:30
Speaker 2: try and help you out. That's really really hard.
51:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, maybe that'll change over the next five to
51:36
Speaker 1: ten years. Who knows. All Right, I want to finish
51:38
Speaker 1: on one thing, and I'm being a little bit self
51:42
Speaker 1: indulgent here because I want to know. Tell me about eggs,
51:45
Speaker 1: tell me about cholesterol, tell me about yolks. What's the current?
51:50
Speaker 1: By the way, Pez has got a master's degreen nutrition.
51:53
Speaker 1: If you're wondering what qualifies him, he's not just some
51:56
Speaker 1: Well he is a buffet and he is a bodybuilder,
51:58
Speaker 1: but also he's an educated bullf ed tell us about eggs, mate.
52:04
Speaker 2: Okay, well, egg's got a really bad rap. We got
52:06
Speaker 2: told that you should eat you know, one egg, one
52:08
Speaker 2: egg yog to three egg whites and that's it for
52:10
Speaker 2: the day. And you know egg whites are better for you,
52:12
Speaker 2: et cetera. Well, there's a couple of fallacies with that
52:16
Speaker 2: number one, we've actually found that there is no restrictions
52:20
Speaker 2: on a number of ext you can But what we
52:22
Speaker 2: need to take into consideration that in eggs there is
52:24
Speaker 2: a little bit of cholesterol that we need to be addressed,
52:26
Speaker 2: like the saturated fat. But more importantly, there's a better
52:29
Speaker 2: form of a polyunsaturated fat, which is the centsion fat,
52:32
Speaker 2: which is a Mega three. So it's got a Mega three,
52:35
Speaker 2: some traces a Mega six, and a little bit of
52:37
Speaker 2: a Mega nine. Lot every fat. We need to understand
52:39
Speaker 2: that there is they're always going to find these three together.
52:43
Speaker 2: We don't have it like you can't get a let's
52:45
Speaker 2: say a product is sort of Mega three on its side,
52:47
Speaker 2: like for example, olive oil. We know it's a Mega nine,
52:50
Speaker 2: but there's still a Mega six and a Mega three
52:52
Speaker 2: in there. So there's a predominant oil that stands out
52:54
Speaker 2: and then place elements of the others. So with eggs,
52:57
Speaker 2: because we went down this pathway of ninety eight percent
52:59
Speaker 2: fat and fat's what push your problem? And fat, what's
53:02
Speaker 2: make with fat, et cetera, we decided to say, well,
53:05
Speaker 2: look at that the yoaks or fat, I don't care,
53:07
Speaker 2: We're going to throw them in the bin and that's
53:09
Speaker 2: a lot of crap. There's actually scientific studies that have
53:11
Speaker 2: come through. Now that's something. You can eat as many
53:14
Speaker 2: eggs as you like, as long as you're cholesterols in check, right,
53:17
Speaker 2: if you know that your triglycerides are on point, and
53:19
Speaker 2: now we're understanding that ApoB is a very important blood test,
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Speaker 2: and then your non HDLC is the next important one.
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Speaker 2: If you're monitoring them and you see where you're at,
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Speaker 2: then you can have as many eggs as you like.
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Speaker 2: There is no issue with that. But even if you
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Speaker 2: try and do the old Wocki thing et eggs raw,
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Speaker 2: that's a big mistake because in egg white there is
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Speaker 2: a product called avident, and avident bonds to vitamin B seven,
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Speaker 2: which is biten and biotin is involved in a lot
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Speaker 2: of chemical reactions within the body, a lot of energy
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Speaker 2: releasing products like in metabolism with fats, and within the
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Speaker 2: actual cell itself to function effectively. So if you're blocking biotin,
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Speaker 2: you're going to start feeling like crap. And I've had
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Speaker 2: clients that have tried this with the eat the raw
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Speaker 2: eggs and they always end up saying a very similar
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Speaker 2: thing and they go I feel I've got a metallic
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Speaker 2: taste in my mouth and I don't feel well. Now.
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Speaker 2: I don't know if that's a correlation of the non
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Speaker 2: absorption of biiton or whether it's just the egg white
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Speaker 2: that's tasting like crap and they want to be like
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Speaker 2: Rocky and run up a flying the stairs. But in
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Speaker 2: a nutshell, you know, cook your eggs. Always cook the
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Speaker 2: egg white very important. You can have a running oat.
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Speaker 2: There's no problems at all. And yes, you can eat
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Speaker 2: as many eggs as you like, as long as you
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Speaker 2: don't have any underlying health conditions, which involves cholesterol high
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Speaker 2: levels cholesterol high levels of druggles ride in the body.
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Speaker 1: He's not suggesting that you do eat twelve a day,
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Speaker 1: by the way everyone, but perhaps that you don't need
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Speaker 1: to be terrified of having one or more a day.
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Speaker 1: Ye tell people.
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Speaker 2: I've had people freak out and go I had a
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Speaker 2: whole egg with it, and I'm really concerned. I said, well,
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Speaker 2: if you ate the shell, I'd be worried too. It's okay,
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Speaker 2: you can have your egg. You're can have two eggs,
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Speaker 2: you can have three eggs, because in three eggs there's
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Speaker 2: twenty one grands of protein, which is it's perfect for
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Speaker 2: your body to function nicely.
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Speaker 1: How do people find you?
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Speaker 2: Mate?
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Speaker 1: Where do they? Where can they connect with you? Website, Instagram,
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Speaker 1: brand products, go beautiful?
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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I have a company known as Nutrition ninety,
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Speaker 2: so you can look up nutrition ninety dot com dot
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Speaker 2: au or to make it easier n ninety dot com
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Speaker 2: dot au. I'm also on Instagram under Nutrition ninety. I'm
55:25
Speaker 2: on YouTube on Nutrition ninety. I am on Facebook as
55:28
Speaker 2: Nutrition ninety. If you go on my Instagram page, there's
55:31
Speaker 2: a lot of information on there to fill you in.
55:34
Speaker 2: I'm on TikTok with some more of a comical approach
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Speaker 2: to nutrition as well too. If you want to find
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Speaker 2: me on there again, either Nutrition ninety or my name
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Speaker 2: Perry Venatis.
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Speaker 1: Good work you fuck well. Now we just need the
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Speaker 1: book and then we can flog your book. When's that
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Speaker 1: coming out next year?
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Speaker 2: Hopefully the beginning of next year. Perfect perfect sarcopenia my
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Speaker 2: favorite subject.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, fuck, that's very Speaking of people over sixty,
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Speaker 1: that's relevant, mate, l sagab fair. But for the moment,
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Speaker 1: Perry Venakas from Nutrition ninety n ninety check him out, mate.
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Speaker 1: We love you and appreciate you.
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, and thank you so much for
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Speaker 2: being on the show. Always great to see you, Craig Go,
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Speaker 2: Thanks Buddy, Bye,