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Episode 46: Revelation and Isaiah · North Bible Recap

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SPEAKER_00: My name is Christian Velez.
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SPEAKER_00: So we are finishing the book of Revelations, and we're gonna cover Isaiah, few prop, a few psalms, and a proverb today, Pastor Clint.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so you are finishing us up with Revelation.
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SPEAKER_00: Revelation.
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SPEAKER_00: Pastor Rodney corrected me.
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SPEAKER_01: Revelation.
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SPEAKER_01: Revelation, yes.
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SPEAKER_01: Revelation can be challenging, but I actually think the close of Revelation is really profound.
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SPEAKER_01: Kind of the the climax of the entire Bible, uh, certainly of this book.
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SPEAKER_01: So looking at Revelation 17 through 22, uh, the theme of it is really the fall of Babylon and the marriage of heaven and earth.
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SPEAKER_01: So every human kingdom that opposes God becomes Babylon.
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SPEAKER_01: I think that's key for us because sometimes we we read it at face value, but we need to also understand what the author is trying to get across that there is a Babylon for every generation and every kingdom.
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SPEAKER_01: So King Jesus will ultimately remove evil forever, and he's going to unite heaven and earth and restore creation.
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SPEAKER_01: So as we cover these last six chapters of Revelation, we're reaching that climax that I talked about.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh, and everything began in the garden in Genesis, and everything ends in the garden city where God dwells with his people.
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SPEAKER_01: So John's not simply telling us what's going to happen someday, he's telling us what's going to happen and revealing the truth for those that are remaining faithful to Jesus when he returns.
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SPEAKER_01: So when we jump into Revelation 17 and 18, that that's the topic.
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SPEAKER_01: Babylon falls.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh introduced as a beautiful prostitute that's riding the beast, wealthy, powerful, seductive, and actually using terms like being drunk on the blood of God's people.
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SPEAKER_01: So uh this isn't random stuff.
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SPEAKER_01: It's actually imagery from the Old Testament uh that's representing any nation that's ever been arrogant and exalted themselves against God.
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SPEAKER_00: I think it's very important that you just mentioned like the imagery in here, because you can see imagery throughout the entire Bible, how the images that Isaiah prophesied about Jesus has parables that connect to that imagery.
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SPEAKER_00: And I I I just like the use you you talked about this in here.
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SPEAKER_00: So, anyways, go ahead.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so John applies that imagery to Rome, and Rome was the Babylon of his day, yep.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh, but it represents every human empower uh that ever puts itself in a position of pride, violence, greed, and idolatry.
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SPEAKER_01: So big for us to point that out that Babylon is just not one city, it's much bigger than that.
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SPEAKER_01: It's a symbol of any civilization that's rejecting God's rule.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh, and every generation has its Babylon.
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SPEAKER_01: So we see that the merchants were mourning, they had lost their wealth, that the kings were mourning because they had lost their power, but heaven rejoices because justice has finally come.
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SPEAKER_01: God's people can resist Babylon and uh not just politically, but also spiritually resist Babylon.
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SPEAKER_01: So really powerful uh to set the stage for these closing chapters because in Revelation 19 now the true king appears, right?
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SPEAKER_01: It's what we've all been waiting on.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes, Babylon has fallen, heaven erupts with worship, hallelujah, and then John sees Jesus riding on a white horse, and he's not he's not just entering as a warrior, uh, but the the Bible project actually points this out and it's its explanation, something fascinating to me that Jesus' robe is already covered in blood.
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SPEAKER_01: Even before the battle begins, it's because his victory was already secured.
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SPEAKER_01: He had already won the battle, and instead of fighting with weapons and warfare of like what we know, he had already defeated the enemy.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh, the lamb had conquered the dragon.
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SPEAKER_01: So it's really powerful.
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SPEAKER_01: And we really win the battle through faithfulness and self-giving love that Jesus exampled for us.
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SPEAKER_01: Yep.
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SPEAKER_01: So that's so good.
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SPEAKER_01: Really big deal.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, faithfulness, I think, is the th one of the biggest themes that we have talked about this in this book.
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SPEAKER_00: It's that through persecution and through anything that you uh are facing, stay faithful.
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SPEAKER_00: Why?
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SPEAKER_00: Because Jesus already won.
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SPEAKER_00: Now, it might seem like the enemies went in, you know, time to time throughout history, but what we know because of the scripture is that God is not concerned about any of this, and we know what's going to happen at the end.
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SPEAKER_00: This is the beauty of reading the book of Revelation.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and we talk about what is it to be a Christian?
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SPEAKER_01: To be a Christian, not your name Christian, but to follow Jesus is to be faithful to him, right?
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SPEAKER_01: And to be like him, follow his example.
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SPEAKER_01: And when we follow his example, we're self-sacrificial.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we give, we love, we care.
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SPEAKER_01: Good.
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SPEAKER_01: So that that's what I'm relating this to.
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SPEAKER_01: The the marriage supper of the lamb reminds us that history isn't just moving towards destruction because it feels that way in our world right now.
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SPEAKER_01: The book of Revelation kind of feels that way leading into these last few chapters, you know.
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SPEAKER_01: It could feel like the whole world's falling apart in our current world.
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SPEAKER_00: I do feel that every time that I'm I've read the book of Revelation and I'm reading some of these things, and I'm like, we are in the end of times.
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SPEAKER_00: Like, this is so true, you know.
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SPEAKER_00: And I if I'm not careful, I can get I can get into that.
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SPEAKER_00: Like, oh yeah, we are living in the end of times.
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SPEAKER_00: The reality is that we've been living in the end of time since Jesus ascended to heaven.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes, we have.
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SPEAKER_00: And you know, Pastor Ronnie and I talked about this many times in the podcast.
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SPEAKER_00: I I don't know if the end of time is going to happen this year or a hundred years from now, but I do know that my end, the end of my life is coming soon.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so that's why we need to be proactive of sharing the gospel with people so one day they can be in the presence of God in heaven.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, sharing the gospel, but also just living the life that Jesus exampled for us faithfulness and obedience, those things that uh we're gonna talk about in even some of the other passages uh that we're dealing with a little bit later.
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SPEAKER_01: So the world's moving to a wedding.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yes, not destruction.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes, uh wedding is a party, it's a celebration, it's festivity.
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SPEAKER_01: That's right, we're going to hang out with King Jesus.
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SPEAKER_00: I just did a I just officiated a wedding to one of my former uh Norse students on Saturday, and uh the the whole time people are just so joyful and so excited of what's going to happen.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and after it happens, everyone is so joy, joyful for what just had happened.
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SPEAKER_00: And you know, you're you're talking about this wedding, and I just think of like nobody in that place was upset because of the wedding or because of the couple, everyone was so joyful, and and this is what we're looking forward to, but also we're called to live heaven on earth, even though we go through persecution or difficult things in our life, we should still have that joy that we already won the battle.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, a wedding it draws attention, like you were saying, it draws attention to what really matters.
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SPEAKER_01: Yep, and and I love the illustration the Bible uses uh for when we ultimately are with Jesus forever.
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SPEAKER_01: So in Revelation 20, uh, evil receives its final defeat.
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SPEAKER_01: Praise the Lord.
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SPEAKER_01: So John is describing Satan's final judgment, and this chapter actually ends with the thousand-year reign, which is one of the most debated things in scripture.
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SPEAKER_01: A lot of people want to dive into this, but I don't think the purpose of revelation is for us to know exactly or to prove towards this person or that person when the thousand-year reign is and how it falls in the structure.
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SPEAKER_01: Instead, it points out that regardless of how someone understands the thousand years, the main point is unchanged.
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SPEAKER_01: Jesus wins, Satan loses, justice comes, faithfulness is rewarded, and death is destroyed.
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SPEAKER_01: I think those things are key.
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SPEAKER_01: Sometimes, as believers, uh, we can dig into God's word and we argue about things that matter, but ultimately Jesus' victory is what takes priority.
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SPEAKER_01: And then also us being ready, like you were saying, taking advantage of the time that God has given us to bring other believers uh to live a quiet life and to model what Jesus modeled for us in many ways.
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SPEAKER_01: So the beast is defeated, Babylon falls, the dragon is judged, and death is thrown into the lake of fire.
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SPEAKER_01: Every enemy is introduced throughout scripture, they are finally removed so that this is a time of rejoicing because truly what we know to be true today is the enemy is defeated, but we're seeing it actually be completely fulfilled in Revelation chapter 20.
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SPEAKER_01: So good, so good.
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SPEAKER_01: So jumping to 21 and 22.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh, heaven and earth become one.
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SPEAKER_01: We have this idea of heaven being its own thing.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh, this is a beautiful picture in the Bible.
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SPEAKER_01: John doesn't see believers escaping the earth, he sees a new Jerusalem coming down.
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SPEAKER_01: God comes to dwell once again with humanity and fulfills the purpose that he gave us in Genesis.
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SPEAKER_01: I will be their God and they will be my people.
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SPEAKER_01: So back to the no pain, right?
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SPEAKER_01: No death, no mourning, no crying, no pain.
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SPEAKER_01: Everything broken by sin is made new, it's renewed.
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SPEAKER_01: So we have a new Eden, we have a new city.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh, and the Bible doesn't ultimately end where it started in the garden, it goes beyond the garden.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, because we are now a redeemed civilization, and we can come to Jesus, right?
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SPEAKER_01: One interesting thing to note on this uh throughout time there's always been a temple, there's always been a church, right?
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SPEAKER_01: Uh there is no need for a temple now because we're all with Jesus, we're in the presence of God.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so worshiping him freely and and interacting with him.
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SPEAKER_01: I think that's something cool about these last few chapters because God's presence fills everything, there's no need for it.
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SPEAKER_01: So humanity finally fulfills the purpose of Adam and Eve, kind of going back to Genesis, and they reign with God over all creation.
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SPEAKER_00: Yep.
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SPEAKER_01: Beautiful thing.
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SPEAKER_00: So good.
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SPEAKER_00: So so good.
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SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much for finishing up uh Revelation with us.
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SPEAKER_00: Now we're gonna jump in into the book of Isaiah.
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SPEAKER_00: Isaiah is one of the major prophets.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, and we have, I think we have touched this before, the difference between major prophets and and and um minor minor prophecies.
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SPEAKER_00: I was gonna say smaller prophets.
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SPEAKER_00: The whole point that I was trying to make was that major prophet doesn't mean that they hold more power or that their prophecies were better, it's just because they were prophesying for a longer period of time.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh and the minor prophets, they maybe just had different types of prophecy, or the time was smaller, uh, but it's also the length of the books.
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SPEAKER_00: So Isaiah is one of those major prophets, and traditionally the book is attributed atributed that word, yes, to Isaiah, the son of Amos.
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SPEAKER_00: So A-M-O-Z, uh, not like the prophet.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh so Isaiah uh primary primarily pre what am I what's happening today with my English?
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SPEAKER_00: I'm running low.
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SPEAKER_01: It's your second language afternoon, right?
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SPEAKER_01: Primarily, primarily.
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SPEAKER_00: I always tell people the later it gets, the worse my English gets.
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SPEAKER_00: There's nights that I even tell Natalie, please tell me in Spanish, so I don't have to think.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, usually when you're preaching and talking about God's word, you have people help you with some of the more complicated ones, right?
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SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes, yes.
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SPEAKER_00: So he is um mainly talking to Jerusalem.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh so he serves under the reigns of four different kings.
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SPEAKER_00: We find this in Isaiah chapter one.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna read it.
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SPEAKER_00: It says the vision of Isaiah, the son of Amos, which he saw concerning Judah uh in Jerusalem.
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SPEAKER_00: So now, important key, Isaiah does not even mention the northern kingdom.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh, the northern kingdom has uh I want to say the word like they have um they have not obeyed the word of God, and because of that, some of the scholars that I was reading and the commentaries is saying that in a way was a way of God saying that they are kind of like out of the picture because of their disobedience.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh, but there's no mention of the northern kingdom, just Judah and Jerusalem.
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SPEAKER_00: So he's prophesying mainly to Jerusalem.
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SPEAKER_00: But he says, here in the days of Uzziah, Jodem, Ahaz, and Hezekiah, king of Judah.
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SPEAKER_00: So while he was prophesying, there were four different kings.
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SPEAKER_00: So he prophesied for a very, very uh long time, and so he functioned as a prophet and counselor uh to the kings.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, so the difference is there are prophets who they are called, I had to I read it, write it somewhere here.
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SPEAKER_00: They were court, um, not core prophet, he was a core prophet that they they just prophesied in the in the public square to the people.
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SPEAKER_00: Isaiah was a prophet that prophesied directly to the kings, so he was a kind of like a royal prophet where he was prophesying to the royalty, so not like God has a message just for his people, he will actually go to the prophet and kind of like speak for God to the king.
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SPEAKER_01: It's held in high esteem.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes, people.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes.
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SPEAKER_00: So the dates uh the date is between 740 to 700 BC, even more than that.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, so we see the rise of Assyria, fall of the northern kingdom that happened in 722 BC, Assyria invasion of Judah, uh, and many of the prophecies uh of the Babylonian exile as well as well.
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SPEAKER_00: So the audience uh primarily is Judah, the Southern Kingdom, Jerusalem, all the kings that are in there, and the religious leaders.
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SPEAKER_00: So this includes all of the priests and all of the people who are in the religious circle, and uh people that were living under the divinic monarchy.
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SPEAKER_00: So Isaiah prophesies during uh during the highs and lows of points of Judah's history.
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SPEAKER_00: So again, King Usiah reigned for 52 years.
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SPEAKER_00: Isaiah prophesies uh his ministry in Isaiah chapter 6, it's the death of the King Uzziah.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh, 16 uh the other ones were 16 years and about 20 years of the other king.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm trying to say he prophesied for a very, very, very long time.
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SPEAKER_00: His book gets divided in two parts that I'm gonna touch here in a second, but there are some things, and people say, Well, Isaiah could have not prophesied for that long because probably when this prophecies were taking place, he already probably was dead.
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SPEAKER_00: And what happened was that it what is known is that his disciples, the disciples of Isaiah, continued writing his writing, so kind of like you know, if you start something and I finish, it's still your work, but uh I'm the one that finished it up.
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SPEAKER_01: So you're carrying it out.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm carrying it out.
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SPEAKER_00: So the purpose of the book, very important for us to understand, is that Isaiah is writing this to show that God is both perfectly holy and perfectly faithful.
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SPEAKER_00: You know, what this means that judgment is coming, but he's gonna restore his people, and that's what we see through the whole book and and and and God's story is he's holy and he has to judge.
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SPEAKER_00: We're gonna feel the wrath of God, but he will always restore us.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we see that through the whole line of the Bible.
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SPEAKER_00: We see this in the book of Isaiah, where but yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: We I mean we just looked at it in Revelation.
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SPEAKER_01: Yep, it it's the faithfulness, the holiness, uh, the obedience and the example.
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SPEAKER_00: Yep.
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SPEAKER_00: Isaiah's calling people to repent, to trust God, uh, instead of political alliances, to look forward to God's coming king.
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SPEAKER_00: So, as you know, if you have read it before, if you're reading alongside us, you you're about to read where Isaiah actually prophesies about Jesus.
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SPEAKER_00: He talks about even his crucifixion, and this is hundreds of years before it happens, about 700 plus years before it happens.
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SPEAKER_00: So, um, major themes uh throughout the book of Isaiah is God's holiness.
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SPEAKER_00: You're gonna read the the phrase the holy one of Israel over 25 times in this book.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh, holiness isn't simply just God's moral perfection, but it means that um that he's completely pure, that he's sovereign.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, all of this includes in his holiness.
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SPEAKER_00: Another big theme is judgment.
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SPEAKER_00: Judgment is coming.
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SPEAKER_00: He is prophesying this not only to the people, but also to the kings.
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SPEAKER_00: He's pretty much like preparing the people of God to what's going to happen.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, so he judges idolatry, injustice, pride, empty religion, which we're gonna probably touch in one of those verses today, where you know, often people think that because I go to church or I am a self-proclaimed Christian.
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SPEAKER_00: Now, God is the only one that can judge that, right?
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SPEAKER_00: Judge the heart of people, but often people think that because they go to church or I proclaim to be a Christian, we think that we're honoring God.
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SPEAKER_00: And Isaiah writes how God is like he's sick of people pretty much playing this religious that they are holy and they're not.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, another thing, another theme is the remnant of God, how God preserved his people, and this is his faithfulness.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh, then the Messiah, which is the big, big, big one.
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SPEAKER_00: This is in the later chapters.
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SPEAKER_00: We have the Emmanuel in chapter 7, uh, the the how he is the wonderful counselor of these themes that we know of that come from the old testament about Jesus.
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SPEAKER_00: Um servant songs, chapter 42, 49, 50, 52, and 53, and then the anointed preacher.
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SPEAKER_00: Now, there are there are moments in Jesus' ministry where he opens the scrolls.
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SPEAKER_00: There's this famous, famous, famous, um uh, I wouldn't say just famous, like very important moment in the New Testament when Jesus is in the synagogues and he oh they open the the Isaiah scroll and he says that they open Isaiah scroll and he talks about himself in front of them and says, Today this has been fulfilled.
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SPEAKER_00: So, this is the importance of the Old Testament, often can be a little bit boring, you know.
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SPEAKER_00: People say it's boring.
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SPEAKER_00: No, in order to understand really what Jesus meant when he was alive, uh in the in the present body, like us, we need to understand all of these things and read these things for them to really make sense.
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SPEAKER_00: So uh I mentioned earlier the two different parts.
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SPEAKER_00: So, part one is chapter one through chapter 39.
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SPEAKER_00: All we're gonna read here is judgment and hope.
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SPEAKER_00: There's gonna be judgment, there's gonna be hope as well, and there's gonna be a remnant of people, and there is a coming king.
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SPEAKER_00: So, and then talks about the uh the renewed Jerusalem.
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SPEAKER_00: Part two is chapter 40 to 66.
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SPEAKER_00: Now, this is some of the chapters that some people debate whether it was him who wrote it or his disciples.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh, it's the about comfort and restoration.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh, this begins with um how he's gonna comfort his people.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh, in here is when we have about the servant of the Lord, the messiah, God's kingdom, new creation, and mainly how he's gonna restore uh his people after the exile, because that Babylonian exile, all of that is coming.
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SPEAKER_00: So that's a lot of overview, a lot of things in the book.
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SPEAKER_00: If I say yeah, one of the things that I love is having a study Bible.
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SPEAKER_00: If you don't have a study Bible, um I recommend you to get one.
22:47
SPEAKER_00: Uh that you can find them very inexpensive.
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SPEAKER_00: But what I love about mine is just it gives me a little bit of this before each book.
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SPEAKER_00: If you have that, read it.
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SPEAKER_00: That way it gives you a little bit of understanding of kind of what is happening.
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SPEAKER_00: So um, Isaiah chapter one.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean I read it earlier where he has his vision now.
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SPEAKER_00: Verses two and on, it says this hear O heavens and give ear, O earth.
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SPEAKER_00: For the Lord has spoken, children.
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SPEAKER_00: Have I I don't know how to pronounce this word, so I'm gonna try.
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SPEAKER_00: Have I reared?
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SPEAKER_00: I don't even know how you say it.
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SPEAKER_00: So it says, and and brought up, but they have rebelled against me.
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SPEAKER_00: He's talking to his children, the children of Israel, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: How he has been good and faithful, and they have rebelled against him.
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SPEAKER_00: So Isaiah starred the book talking about what kings he was prophesying under and goes into the wickedness of Judah.
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SPEAKER_00: He talks about how he says, But Israel does not know uh his own master, his God.
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SPEAKER_00: It says, My people do not understand.
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SPEAKER_00: So God is speaking, the donkey knows the master, but my people don't know me.
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SPEAKER_00: And that's just a very dangerous place to be where we can sometimes plague Christianity, plague church, but not really know the Lord.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you you're mentioning some of the Old Testament can be viewed as boring.
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SPEAKER_01: Isaiah is not really one of those books.
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SPEAKER_00: Yep.
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SPEAKER_01: It if you haven't had the opportunity to read through the book of Isaiah, please take advantage of it.
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SPEAKER_01: There's so much history there, uh, and practical teaching for today, and then the relationship and and introduction of Jesus Christ, you know, is is just really a beautiful thing.
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SPEAKER_00: Yep.
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SPEAKER_00: And uh this same chapter also, I think it's verse 7 talks about the fire, how God, how God is going to kind of like burned in in the figurative language, and not really furative, because when they come through the exile, that's really what happens.
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SPEAKER_00: Isaiah is prophesying the destruction of Israel, uh, that it will be burned to the ground.
25:06
SPEAKER_00: Now, I I was listening to I think it was either the Bible project or maybe even the resources with Manny Orangle on the Bible department, and one of them was talking about the the purpose of fire is to do two things.
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SPEAKER_00: Either to uh it's for total destruction.
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SPEAKER_00: Like if I have a bunch of books, this is the example that I give, a bunch of books.
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SPEAKER_00: If I want to completely to destroy them, I don't I cannot just throw it away.
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SPEAKER_00: I have to burn them to the ground and they're completely gone.
25:36
SPEAKER_00: And the second purpose is to purify.
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SPEAKER_00: And here, what's happening in what we know of God and what we know of this book is that God is gonna burn that to the ground, but it's not just to destroy them, it's because he's gonna purify them, and in the future, they're gonna come back to the land and they're gonna restore this, they're gonna restore the new Jerusalem, they're gonna do all of that, but first they have to go through the judgment, not because God just wants to judge them, it's because they disobey God, and it's not that they disobey God at one time or for a generation, but for many generations, they disobey and disobey and disobey God.
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SPEAKER_00: And now, God, there's no other way but to destroy and and to destroy them.
26:23
SPEAKER_01: A lot of farmers uh uh they burn land, yeah, yeah, and it's a process of renewal, yeah.
26:30
SPEAKER_01: Um, so that the crops will be better, stronger, and more rich in nutrients, uh, you know, the next time you plant.
26:37
SPEAKER_01: So that's a really great illustration.
26:40
SPEAKER_00: Verse 11 says this what to me is this multitude of sacrifices, says the Lord.
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SPEAKER_00: I have had enough of burnt offerings of rams and of fat of well-fed beasts.
26:52
SPEAKER_00: I do not delight in the blood of bulls or lambs or of goats.
26:59
SPEAKER_00: Again, he is making it very clear, offering sacrifices, but if your heart is far from him, he does not want that.
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SPEAKER_00: And you know, kind of what I have in my general and Bible here that this is written, the this is what is required in the old testament, meaning God actually required the blood of the lamb, the blood of the bulls, the sacrificial system.
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SPEAKER_00: He provided that.
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SPEAKER_00: That was what they were supposed to do.
27:25
SPEAKER_00: But he's saying, if you're doing that, well, your heart is far from me, it means nothing.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and this is why it's important that we don't live a life that we honor God with our lips, which we we we read this about in this book too, but our hearts are far from from him, and I don't want that, and I don't want to raise my children in a place, my home, where they see me worshiping and lifting my arms to the Lord, but not living a Christian life while when nobody was looking at at us.
27:57
SPEAKER_01: So it's really good, yeah.
27:59
SPEAKER_00: And then that also connects because he's talking about you know, oh, don't sacrifice, make all of these things.
28:05
SPEAKER_00: But in verse 18, I love the invitation that God gives again because he judges and then just wants to uh redeem.
28:13
SPEAKER_00: He says, Come now, let us reason together, says the Lord.
28:17
SPEAKER_00: Come now, let us reason together.
28:18
SPEAKER_00: So God is inviting them, like hey, this is gonna happen, but let's reason, let's it he showed that in in the middle of his judgment of the difficulty, he's present and he cares.
28:30
SPEAKER_00: Um, chapter uh three, four, and five uh have great stuff.
28:37
SPEAKER_00: Um, there is a vineyard in chapter five that actually uh when you read that, I would like for you to read.
28:45
SPEAKER_00: I can remember the chapter, I believe it's in the book of Matthew, where Jesus talks about the vineyard.
28:50
SPEAKER_00: He's actually referring to what Isaiah it's it's prophesying, but I want to touch on chapter six before we move on.
28:57
SPEAKER_01: Can I hit on one verse out of chapter one?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, uh you you hit on 18.
29:02
SPEAKER_01: The verse right before that, though, I think is really critical for us as believers to know because God is trying to show them that it's not just about sacrifice, as you said, uh that it requires more than that.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh in verse 17 says, Learn to do good, seek justice, correct the oppressor, defend the rights of the fatherless, and plead the widow's cause.
29:27
SPEAKER_01: So he's truly teaching us what it looks like to be righteous, giving us an example of that.
29:34
SPEAKER_01: So good chapter one is yeah, it's so much filled with so much stuff we could talk about.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes, chapter six, and here's kind of what I want to end uh our section in Isaiah is the Isaiah's vision of the Lord.
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SPEAKER_00: It says this in verse one.
29:50
SPEAKER_00: Um, in the years in the year that King Usiah died, I saw the Lord sitting upon a throne high and lifted up, and the train of his robe filled the temple.
30:06
SPEAKER_00: Now, important to understand, Uzziah died either 739 uh BC or 740 BC, depends on who you read.
30:15
SPEAKER_00: That's the the importance here is King Uzziah has died, and Isaiah has a vision, and the vision is he sees the Lord sitting up high, but it says the train of his robe filled the temple.
30:29
SPEAKER_00: Now, as I was doing research and and and and and wanting to understand that passage more, I was like, okay, this is important because there's a mention the king died, and there is a mention that he has a vision that where he sees the Lord.
30:43
SPEAKER_00: Now, the train of a robe, this is what I found.
30:46
SPEAKER_00: The train of a robe is important because it is it let us know how many kings he has conquered.
30:53
SPEAKER_00: So kings will have will add to the train of the robe, the robe of whatever king they have conquered.
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SPEAKER_00: In the vision that Isaiah is having the Lord, the King of Kings, the train of his robe is so large that the entire temple is completely filled.
31:14
SPEAKER_00: So that tells you and me, God does not lose a battle.
31:19
SPEAKER_00: God is with you, and when he says, I will never uh leave you nor forsake you, he means it's like I have never lost a battle, and I'm not gonna start with you.
31:29
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, so it just gives us so much hope, and he gives the people of Israel hope that even though they're about to go into exile, his robe is so large he has defeated every king.
31:40
SPEAKER_01: Christian, about 30 years ago, hard to believe, but 30 years ago, I read through the Bible for the first time, uh all the way through.
31:53
SPEAKER_01: And I will never forget coming across Isaiah chapter six and the impact that this passage had on me of the holiness of God and that woe is me that Isaiah mentions in there.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh the way it brings humility and defeats pride for us as individuals.
32:14
SPEAKER_01: That that's the only response that we can give in the presence of the Lord, right?
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SPEAKER_01: Is reverence and humility.
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SPEAKER_00: Nobody can brag in front of the nobody can brag.
32:23
SPEAKER_00: Well, tell me what great things you have there.
32:26
SPEAKER_01: God used this passage to shape me.
32:29
SPEAKER_01: Uh just every now and then there's these key verses, these passages that I come across, and I remember that first year of reading through the Bible and how much that impacted me.
32:39
SPEAKER_01: This is one of those early, early highlights that I would go back to and talk to my friends.
32:44
SPEAKER_01: We were all young believers at the time, and we would chat about this and and look at Isaiah together.
32:50
SPEAKER_01: So powerful.
32:51
SPEAKER_00: So good, so so good.
32:52
SPEAKER_00: Keep digging in, keep reading uh book of Isaiah.
32:56
SPEAKER_00: I think we read about two to three chapters.
32:58
SPEAKER_00: Uh um so some days, this is goodness.
33:02
SPEAKER_00: Grab a highlight, grab a pain, underline circle things.
33:07
SPEAKER_00: One of the things, the reason why I like doing that, it's like for example, right now, um, we're gonna be re talking about Psalm 95 through 97, and I have circle things and I have written notes, and I hope one day to pass this Bible to Isla.
33:22
SPEAKER_00: Uh to my hopefully they pass it down to my great, great, great, great grandchildren.
33:27
SPEAKER_00: Uh, but that's when you're reading the word of God, this is not only for you, this is for you to live to the next generation.
33:32
SPEAKER_00: So highly encourage you to do that.
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SPEAKER_00: Chapter 95 to 97 of uh Psalms, Pastor Clint, if you want to jump in in any of this, go ahead as well.
33:42
SPEAKER_01: But I would just say, like you're mentioning for future generations, it's highlighting or writing notes, it's like a reference system.
33:50
SPEAKER_01: Um even for yourself, where yeah, for yourself and for the future.
33:55
SPEAKER_01: Um, I I don't have a photographic memory, but for some reason, if I highlight in a portion of the Bible that I reference a lot, I can kind of remember where that certain passage is.
34:06
SPEAKER_01: And I might not know exactly where it is, but I feel like it's down on the left corner around this book of the Bible in those first few chapters or so.
34:16
SPEAKER_01: So then I can reference and go back and flip to it.
34:20
SPEAKER_01: And it really has been a way that God's used in my life to help me grow in the word.
34:25
SPEAKER_01: So, yeah, let's let's jump in.
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SPEAKER_01: Yep.
34:27
SPEAKER_00: So the Psalm 95, I just love this right here.
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SPEAKER_00: First verse is, Oh, come, let us sing to the Lord, let us make joyful noise to the rock of our salvation, the rock of our salvation.
34:40
SPEAKER_00: Now, one of the things that I love about, and we have mentioned this before as well, it's the Hebrew imagery, like how they use metaphors and images to show them how for here the rock of all salvation.
34:55
SPEAKER_00: Now, when you think about a rock, you might think about a rock that you kind of kick with your shoe.
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SPEAKER_00: No, for them, it's like this rock represents an unmovable, like nothing is going to move this rock.
35:09
SPEAKER_00: And it just when you're reading the Psalms in your we, and often we sing songs that touch on these things here.
35:16
SPEAKER_00: Here I wrote it says Psalm 95, encourage the singer to learn from the rebellious of the previous generation.
35:23
SPEAKER_00: So throughout this whole um uh psalm, which is is it's a is a song of praise, reflecting on the rebellious of the former generation.
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SPEAKER_00: And it's important for us to look back not only in the rebellious alter generation, but even in our own, the things that we did when we rebelled against God and meditate on that and give thanks to the Lord that I'm not where I used to be.
35:51
SPEAKER_00: I was I just had a uh uh team meeting with my group, and we were talking about something specific, uh, about a place.
35:59
SPEAKER_00: And I said, Oh, I remember I went to that place in the one summer that I drink, and they were laughing.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm like, Oh, you you drink back in the day, and I say, they say, I only did it this one summer, it says, and it was one of the biggest regrets that I have, but now that place it reminds me not of the things that I did and how sinful I was, but it reminds me of the goodness of the Lord, it reminds me that I didn't stay in that place, that the Lord did not abandon me.
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SPEAKER_00: When I turn from that to the Lord, that the Lord came and rescued me.
36:35
SPEAKER_00: That's good.
36:35
SPEAKER_01: So yes, Psalm 95, it it leads with worship, but then also gives us that that uh imagery.
36:45
SPEAKER_01: Uh, we kind of have used that word earlier, right?
36:47
SPEAKER_01: That real worship includes obedience.
36:50
SPEAKER_01: So if you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts, right?
36:55
SPEAKER_01: So there's more than just raising your hands and praising the Lord.
36:59
SPEAKER_01: A true life of worship uh requires obedience and faithfulness.
37:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so kind of it feels like the Bible kind of has a theme, doesn't it?
37:08
SPEAKER_01: We keep talking about the same things that uh, but yet we're in uh three different books.
37:14
SPEAKER_00: And we see somewhat the same.
37:16
SPEAKER_00: That's the beauty of the word of God.
37:19
SPEAKER_00: Uh Psalm 96.
37:21
SPEAKER_00: I love this right here, verse 4 says, For great is the Lord and greatly to be praised.
37:28
SPEAKER_00: Now, this is a half of the verse, right?
37:30
SPEAKER_00: Often you we hear people shouting that in a worship experience to get the crowd going, and and I get it because it is true, but I also love the second part says he is to be feared above all gods.
37:47
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so why should we worship and praise the Lord because all the other gods of this world are worthless?
37:55
SPEAKER_00: He is the king of kings, he is the lord of lords, and I think often people say he is the only God.
38:02
SPEAKER_00: No, there are many gods, but there's no one like him.
38:04
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I love that verse.
38:06
SPEAKER_01: So good, yeah.
38:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the the reference is one true God.
38:10
SPEAKER_01: Yes, right.
38:10
SPEAKER_01: Yes, there may be many gods, but there's one true God.
38:13
SPEAKER_00: Yes, and Psalm 97, the the head is the Lord reigns.
38:18
SPEAKER_00: Uh verse 2 says, Um, I'm gonna just read verse 2.
38:22
SPEAKER_00: It says, Clouds and thick darkness are all around him.
38:25
SPEAKER_00: Righteousness and justice are the foundation of his throne.
38:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, just shows you and I how God is a righteous God and how it's a uh a Lord who brings justice, and he cares not only for my group of people, but he cares for all people, and how he is righteous and just not only with my generation, but with all generations as well.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yep.
38:52
SPEAKER_01: You who love the Lord hate evil.
38:55
SPEAKER_01: That's one of the passages in there.
38:56
SPEAKER_01: So just really powerful stuff.
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SPEAKER_00: Good.
39:01
SPEAKER_01: Proverbs 17.
39:02
SPEAKER_01: Yep, we're wrapping up, man.
39:04
SPEAKER_01: Uh so wisdom shows up in relationships.
39:08
SPEAKER_01: Proverbs 17 is filled with practical wisdom for everyday life.
39:12
SPEAKER_01: There are several themes through there, and that's usually how the Proverbs work.
39:18
SPEAKER_01: Uh, it it's not uh an overarching theme for the entire chapter, but instead, there's a lot of truths.
39:27
SPEAKER_01: Uh, it could be from even verse to verse, completely different truths, but things that we could adhere to that will help us in everyday life.
39:36
SPEAKER_01: So uh one of those is peace is more valuable than abundance.
39:40
SPEAKER_01: This one stood out to me.
39:41
SPEAKER_01: The scripture says, better a dry crust with peace and quiet than a house full of feasting with strife.
39:50
SPEAKER_01: So that value of peace and quiet, yeah.
39:53
SPEAKER_01: Uh, I mentioned earlier living a quiet life.
39:56
SPEAKER_01: Man, there is just something to be said in a world where there is chaos, and it does feel like destruction can be happening.
40:06
SPEAKER_01: That we walk in peace and quiet and live the quiet life as the Lord uh leads us.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh it's better than feasting and having everything we need, but yet living a life of strife.
40:19
SPEAKER_01: So that was really powerful to me.
40:21
SPEAKER_00: So so many great things in the book of Proverbs, right?
40:23
SPEAKER_00: This is practical wisdom.
40:24
SPEAKER_00: You mentioned that this earlier.
40:26
SPEAKER_00: This is I I like verse nine says, Whoever covers an offense seeks love, but he who repeats a matter separates close friends.
40:37
SPEAKER_00: This is giving you and I a framework on how to live a godly life, someone who brings unity instead of disunity.
40:47
SPEAKER_00: And uh the beauty about the the book, book of Proverbs is like you can read each no matter which chapter, and you're gonna walk away with wisdom if you apply it into your life.
41:00
SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
41:00
SPEAKER_01: I think just kind of hitting on that last thing you said there, uh that wisdom is showing us that in real relationships there's gonna be adversity.
41:10
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
41:11
SPEAKER_01: So if if we're thinking that our close relationship should have no uh conflict and things that we have to work through, uh, we're we're not really following the wisdom of the book of Proverbs and what God has said, of course, for us.
41:27
SPEAKER_01: So incredible stuff.
41:29
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, thank you so much, Pastor Clint, for being here, for studying, helping us understand the book of Revelation.
41:35
SPEAKER_00: I say it, Proverbs and Tom's.
41:38
SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much for that.
41:39
SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much for watching.
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