Latest / DEEP INSIGHT / Uganda's army chief shuts down media, tightens grip on power
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- 0:00Speaker 1: In Uganda. I do not believe in a free press.
- 0:04Speaker 1: Those are the words of Uganda's powerful army chief, who
- 0:07Speaker 1: also happens to be the president's son, as he shut
- 0:10Speaker 1: down several media outlets in the East African country. General
- 0:14Speaker 1: Muhuzu Kana Ugaba fired off a series of tweets announcing
- 0:19Speaker 1: the closure of Daily Monitor and NTV Uganda on Sunday.
- 0:24Speaker 1: To quote him, NTV and Monitor are being shut down
- 0:27Speaker 1: from today, he wrote, misspelling the name of the newspaper.
- 0:30Speaker 1: Both will not reopen without my permission, he continued. From
- 0:35Speaker 1: now on, all media in Uganda will follow the rules.
- 0:39Speaker 1: Days later, both those outlets and four more from the
- 0:43Speaker 1: Nation Media Group were still shuttered. The Daily Monitor said
- 0:47Speaker 1: it was under military siege, with armed soldiers standing guard
- 0:51Speaker 1: outside its offices in the capital Kampala. Its website shows
- 0:56Speaker 1: a similar scene armed massed men in fatigues sing the
- 1:00Speaker 1: once free press outlet. The newspaper says it's getting round
- 1:04Speaker 1: the physical blockade and the broadcast and print blackout by
- 1:08Speaker 1: distributing updates through online channels. So who is Muhuzi Kanarugaba,
- 1:15Speaker 1: the head of Uganda's military and President Rwei Musevni's son
- 1:20Speaker 1: has ordered a major crackdown in recent months with the
- 1:24Speaker 1: rest of politicians, activists, lawyers and media figures. Kanarugaba insists
- 1:30Speaker 1: he is following the orders of his eighty one year
- 1:33Speaker 1: old father, who won reelection at the start of the year.
- 1:36Speaker 1: The fifty two year old son has often suggested he
- 1:39Speaker 1: could take over from Musevni as president and runs his
- 1:43Speaker 1: own political movement, the Patriotic League of Uganda. His postings
- 1:50Speaker 1: on X aren't only confined to media outlets. They're part
- 1:53Speaker 1: of a broader crackdown on opposition figures. We're going to
- 1:57Speaker 1: highlight three of them. First, Kanarugaba bragged on X that
- 2:01Speaker 1: he was proud of all the hurt and pain he
- 2:04Speaker 1: would inflict on lawyer Arias Lucuago. Luquago is charged with
- 2:11Speaker 1: treason related offenses and is an attorney for full time
- 2:14Speaker 1: presidential candidate ki's At Bessij seen here in the middle.
- 2:18Speaker 1: Now Bessiej is behind bars for a separate treason case.
- 2:23Speaker 1: A third opposition figure, another lawyer and former minister mariat
- 2:27Speaker 1: Matebe on the right, was charged with promoting sectarianism on Wednesday,
- 2:33Speaker 1: a week after she disappeared from her home. The judge
- 2:36Speaker 1: bailed the seventy three year old, citing her age to
- 2:42Speaker 1: unpack all this. I'm pleased to welcome Sukula Ayela, a
- 2:45Speaker 1: human rights researcher working with Amnesty International, and he joins
- 2:49Speaker 1: us from Nairobi. I'm curious from where you sit, is
- 2:52Speaker 1: General Mahouse acting as a loyal enforcer of his father's
- 2:56Speaker 1: presidency or as a politician in uniform running his own
- 3:01Speaker 1: succession campaign. What does the Mahuzi project look like on
- 3:05Speaker 1: the ground right now.
- 3:08Speaker 2: Well, we've seen Hosey.
- 3:10Speaker 3: General Hosey indicate clearly that he would prefer to take
- 3:13Speaker 3: over after his father. But he's coming in with a
- 3:17Speaker 3: lot more authoritarian tendencies, much harsh authoritarian tendencies than his
- 3:23Speaker 3: father did. Because we see that in his under the
- 3:27Speaker 3: project there is no descent. He's crushing descent. He's crashing
- 3:31Speaker 3: any pretense to the rule of law. He has indicated
- 3:36Speaker 3: that he does not engage with the critics.
- 3:40Speaker 2: He has virtually.
- 3:44Speaker 3: Kicked you know, most of the opposition leaders either in
- 3:47Speaker 3: jail or some have fled the country.
- 3:51Speaker 2: So we see a rule of fear. We see a.
- 3:55Speaker 3: Person who doesn't want scrut me from whether it's the
- 3:59Speaker 3: independent media or civil society, and no accountability because he's
- 4:05Speaker 3: also militarizing the state.
- 4:07Speaker 1: No accountability. Again, he's taken clear shots at the media,
- 4:12Speaker 1: saying he doesn't believe in a free press because media
- 4:15Speaker 1: should be quote guided by the cadres of the revolution.
- 4:19Speaker 1: I'm not sure entirely what that means, but I do
- 4:22Speaker 1: wonder what journalists in the country think it means. What
- 4:27Speaker 1: are the day to day realities for journalists and newsrooms
- 4:30Speaker 1: across the country today.
- 4:34Speaker 3: The journalists we've spoken with have indicated to us so
- 4:38Speaker 3: there's a little fee within newsrooms in Uganga because you
- 4:43Speaker 3: can never speak against the government. There has been an
- 4:47Speaker 3: order from persons very close to General Mosey who've instructed
- 4:52Speaker 3: media to only air positive government stories. It's now becoming
- 4:57Speaker 3: very difficult for newsrooms to bring on board panelists who
- 5:02Speaker 3: are passive to be critical of government. And this definitely
- 5:06Speaker 3: is not good for the you know, an independent media
- 5:11Speaker 3: because they can't operate in such an environment that is
- 5:15Speaker 3: highly restrictive.
- 5:17Speaker 1: You're talking about a scenario in which he's trying to
- 5:19Speaker 1: turn everything, every outlet into state media. Essentially, you could
- 5:24Speaker 1: call much of what we're seeing political theater playing out
- 5:28Speaker 1: on X threats to behead Bobby Wine, detain diplomats, keep
- 5:33Speaker 1: media outlets closed. Are these just provocative posts or do
- 5:37Speaker 1: people in the country see them as binding orders from
- 5:41Speaker 1: the de facto center of power.
- 5:44Speaker 3: These are actually really posts. These moses ruling the country
- 5:49Speaker 3: through social media, and whenever he posts anything, it's actually taken,
- 5:55Speaker 3: it's acted upon by the authorities.
- 5:57Speaker 2: There's no he's the institution.
- 5:59Speaker 3: And I think it also goes to what the presidency
- 6:04Speaker 3: of Museveni has been the institutions who are crashed and
- 6:08Speaker 3: now everything has been personalized, and so we see that
- 6:12Speaker 3: whatever Mosey says on social media, it has come to pass.
- 6:16Speaker 3: And that's why Amnesty actually is asking that all those
- 6:20Speaker 3: who have been habitually arrested due to what morose has
- 6:24Speaker 3: said on social media need to be freed, and all
- 6:27Speaker 3: the six media houses that have been shut down on
- 6:30Speaker 3: others from Josey also need to be opened.
- 6:33Speaker 2: And we also want to ask that all.
- 6:35Speaker 3: Those civil society activists who are being harassed that the
- 6:39Speaker 3: intimidation should end, because he's actually doing it on social
- 6:42Speaker 3: media and we are seeing it in real life.
- 6:46Speaker 1: So to be clear, what you're saying is people in
- 6:48Speaker 1: the region do not view his posts simply as a
- 6:52Speaker 1: political leader or figure thumping his trash or pasturing. They
- 6:59Speaker 1: really do take the post seriously as coming from the
- 7:03Speaker 1: center of power in the country.
- 7:07Speaker 3: Correct and whatever Jose has an uded on social media
- 7:13Speaker 3: twittered about has come to pass unfortunately, Like in the
- 7:19Speaker 3: very reason in case where he ordered the closure of
- 7:22Speaker 3: the six media houses, we sow let a statement saying
- 7:26Speaker 3: that all these actions were taken on orders of the president.
- 7:32Speaker 2: Mister Museveni.
- 7:34Speaker 3: Somjos is virtually doing these actions on behalf of the president, who,
- 7:40Speaker 3: by the way, is legally duty bound to make sure
- 7:45Speaker 3: that human rights are protected and if that is not happening,
- 7:49Speaker 3: he's the one to be held accountable, of course, with
- 7:51Speaker 3: the person who is making this call.
- 7:55Speaker 2: So these actions that let people's write.
- 7:58Speaker 1: So looking beyond day's headlines, what concerns you the most
- 8:03Speaker 1: about the direction u Ganda is heading.
- 8:08Speaker 3: Our biggest concern as Amnesty International is the entrenchment of
- 8:12Speaker 3: impunity through Hosy's actions.
- 8:16Speaker 2: We see that there's continued erosion of human rights.
- 8:23Speaker 3: We see activists being subjected to baseless investigations. The media
- 8:30Speaker 3: being shut down UH and the misuse of criminal justice
- 8:34Speaker 3: system is something that continues to you know, to concern
- 8:40Speaker 3: us as Amnesty and we still hope, we still call
- 8:43Speaker 3: for the release of all those who've been who are
- 8:47Speaker 3: currently behind us for exercising the rights for the reopening
- 8:51Speaker 3: of the media houses that have been shut down on
- 8:53Speaker 3: orders we just with no justification.
- 8:57Speaker 2: And also an end to the harassment of active in Uganda.
- 9:02Speaker 1: That is a Sukula on Yela, human rights researcher working
- 9:06Speaker 1: with Amnesty International. Our deep thanks to you, thank you
- 9:11Speaker 1: very much for sting