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Gaming for Unity: What 'Mass Effect' Teaches Us about the Church - The Whole Church Podcast · Systematic Geekology

0:27
John
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chapter
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17,
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verses
0:28
12
0:29
through
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13.
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Then
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verses
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20
0:31
through
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21
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in
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the
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New
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American
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Standard
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Bible.
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While
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I
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was
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written
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with
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them,
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I
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was
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keeping
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them
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in
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your
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name,
0:37
which
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you
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have
0:37
given
0:38
me.
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And
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I
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guarded
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them
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and
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not
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one
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of
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them
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perished
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except
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the
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Son
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of
0:41
destruction,
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so
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that
0:42
the
0:42
Scripture
0:42
would
0:43
be
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fulfilled.
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But
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now
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I
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am
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coming
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to
0:45
you,
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and
0:45
these
0:45
things
0:45
I
0:46
speak
0:46
in
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the
0:46
world
0:47
so
0:47
that
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they
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may
0:48
have
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my
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joy
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made
0:49
full
0:49
in
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themselves.
0:51
Skipping
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ahead
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to
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verse
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20,
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I
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am
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not
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asking
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on
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behalf
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of
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these
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alone,
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but
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also
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for
0:56
those
0:56
who
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believe
0:57
in
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me
0:57
through
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their
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word,
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that
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they
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may
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all
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be
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one,
1:00
just
1:00
as
1:00
you,
1:00
Father,
1:01
are
1:01
in
1:01
me,
1:02
and
1:02
I
1:02
in
1:02
you,
1:03
that
1:03
they
1:03
also
1:03
may
1:04
be
1:04
in
1:04
us,
1:04
so
1:05
that
1:05
the
1:05
world
1:05
may
1:05
believe
1:06
that
1:06
you
1:07
sent
1:07
me.
1:07
In
1:08
this
1:08
passage
1:08
of
1:08
Scripture
1:09
passages,
1:10
Jesus
1:10
is
1:11
praying
1:11
to
1:11
the
1:11
Father.
1:12
He's
1:12
saying
1:13
he
1:13
knows
1:14
that
1:14
his
1:14
time
1:14
on
1:15
earth
1:15
is
1:15
coming
1:15
to
1:15
an
1:15
end
1:16
pretty
1:16
soon.
1:17
And
1:17
Jesus
1:18
asked
1:18
for
1:19
this
1:19
fullness
1:19
of
1:20
joy
1:20
of
1:20
his
1:20
joy
1:21
in
1:21
his
1:21
followers
1:22
after
1:22
his
1:22
resurrection,
1:23
before
1:24
he
1:24
goes
1:24
on
1:25
to
1:25
go
1:25
to
1:25
pray
1:26
in
1:26
verses
1:27
20
1:27
that
1:27
all
1:27
of
1:28
his
1:28
followers
1:28
be
1:28
united
1:29
together.
1:29
Christian
1:30
Ashley,
1:31
Master
1:31
of
1:32
the
1:32
Divine,
1:32
how
1:33
might
1:33
this
1:34
fullness
1:34
of
1:34
joy
1:35
in
1:35
Christ
1:35
be
1:36
connected
1:37
to
1:37
the
1:37
unity
1:38
that
1:38
he
1:38
prays
1:38
that
1:38
his
1:39
followers
1:39
would
1:39
experience?
1:40
He
1:41
draws
1:41
a
1:41
deliberate
1:42
comparison
1:42
between
1:44
the
1:44
Trinity
1:44
and
1:45
the
1:45
Church
1:45
in
1:45
that
1:46
as
1:46
the
1:47
Trinity
1:47
is
1:48
perfect
1:48
unity
1:49
and
1:49
that
1:49
there
1:49
is
1:49
no
1:49
disagreement
1:50
between
1:50
them,
1:50
there
1:50
are
1:51
no
1:51
fights
1:51
or
1:52
anything
1:52
that
1:52
can
1:52
cause
1:53
harm
1:53
in
1:53
between
1:53
them.
1:53
There's
1:53
never
1:54
any
1:54
way
1:54
to
1:54
cause
1:54
wrong.
1:55
So
1:55
the
1:55
way
1:56
the
1:56
church
1:56
should
1:56
be
1:57
now,
1:57
that's
1:57
an
1:58
impossibility
1:58
because
1:58
we're
1:59
more
1:59
finite
2:00
beings.
2:00
But
2:00
at
2:00
the
2:01
same
2:01
time
2:01
he's
2:02
still
2:02
asking
2:03
that
2:03
we
2:03
do
2:03
that,
2:04
that
2:04
we
2:04
look
2:04
up
2:04
to
2:04
our
2:05
Heavenly
2:05
Father,
2:06
the
2:06
Spirit
2:06
and
2:07
Jesus
2:07
and
2:07
look.
2:08
Oh,
2:08
that's
2:08
how
2:08
they
2:09
interact.
2:09
How
2:09
are
2:09
we
2:09
supposed
2:10
to
2:10
do
2:10
the
2:10
same?
2:10
Well,
2:10
we
2:10
do
2:11
that
2:11
by
2:11
being
2:12
as
2:12
much
2:12
as
2:12
possible
2:13
in
2:13
unity,
2:13
rejecting
2:14
evil,
2:14
getting
2:15
rid
2:15
of
2:15
the
2:15
people
2:15
in
2:15
our
2:16
midst,
2:16
like
2:16
the
2:16
Son
2:16
of
2:16
destruction,
2:17
Judas,
2:17
who
2:17
has
2:18
no
2:18
place
2:18
within
2:18
the
2:18
church
2:19
and
2:19
will
2:19
only
2:19
bring
2:19
him
2:20
so
2:20
like
2:20
working
2:21
together
2:21
to
2:21
make
2:21
sure
2:22
the
2:22
church
2:22
is
2:22
as
2:22
stable
2:23
as
2:23
possible
2:23
so
2:23
that
2:23
we
2:24
can
2:24
feel
2:24
the
2:25
joy
2:25
that
2:25
comes
2:25
from
2:26
being
2:26
united.
2:27
Yeah.
2:28
Amen.
2:29
Hallelujah.
2:30
Verily,
2:30
verily,
2:32
other
2:32
such
2:32
phrases.
2:37
Hey
2:37
guys,
2:38
welcome
2:38
to
2:38
the
2:39
Whole
2:39
Church
2:39
podcast
2:40
and
2:40
systematic
2:41
geekology.
2:43
It's
2:44
gonna
2:44
be
2:44
a
2:44
fun
2:44
episode.
2:45
Today
2:45
we're
2:45
talking
2:45
about
2:45
church
2:46
unity
2:46
as
2:46
always,
2:46
because
2:46
the
2:47
whole
2:47
church
2:47
podcast,
2:47
but
2:48
we're
2:48
also
2:48
going
2:48
to
2:48
talk
2:48
about
2:49
a
2:49
video
2:49
game
2:49
because
2:50
this
2:50
is
2:50
kind
2:50
of
2:50
also
2:51
systematic
2:51
ecolog.
2:53
Kind
2:53
of.
2:53
I'm
2:54
Joshua
2:54
Noel,
2:54
one
2:54
of
2:55
the
2:55
hosts
2:55
of
2:55
both
2:55
shows.
2:56
I'm
2:56
here
2:56
for
2:57
the
2:57
whole
2:57
Church
2:57
podcast.
2:58
I'm
2:58
here
2:58
with
2:59
the
2:59
one
2:59
and
2:59
only
2:59
Pot
2:59
Almighty,
3:00
also
3:00
host
3:01
of
3:01
both
3:01
shows,
3:01
TJ
3:01
Tavria
3:02
is
3:02
Juan
3:02
Blackwell.
3:03
Welcome
3:04
to
3:04
your
3:04
shows.
3:05
Thank
3:05
you.
3:07
And
3:07
we're
3:07
here
3:08
with
3:08
a
3:08
host
3:09
of
3:09
Systemic
3:09
Ecology
3:10
and
3:10
also
3:10
every
3:10
other
3:11
podcast
3:11
that's
3:11
not
3:11
the
3:11
whole
3:12
church
3:12
podcast.
3:12
Christian
3:13
Ashley.
3:15
How's
3:15
it
3:15
going,
3:16
Christian?
3:17
Go
3:17
well,
3:17
Joshua.
3:18
Yeah.
3:20
Oh,
3:20
yeah.
3:20
Today's
3:21
topic,
3:21
a
3:22
little
3:22
impromptu.
3:22
We
3:23
had
3:23
some
3:23
scheduling
3:24
difficulties
3:24
with
3:25
some
3:25
of
3:25
the
3:25
other
3:25
guests
3:25
that
3:25
we've
3:25
told
3:25
you
3:26
about.
3:26
And
3:27
I
3:27
started
3:28
playing
3:28
a
3:28
game
3:28
recently
3:28
that
3:29
I
3:29
know
3:29
both
3:29
of
3:29
these
3:29
guys
3:29
like,
3:30
called
3:30
Mass
3:30
Effect
3:31
and
3:32
some
3:32
of
3:32
the
3:32
themes.
3:32
And
3:33
I
3:33
was
3:33
like,
3:33
you
3:33
know,
3:33
this
3:33
fits.
3:34
I
3:34
was
3:34
playing
3:34
it
3:34
once
3:35
I
3:35
finished
3:35
the
3:35
games
3:35
to
3:36
text
3:36
and
3:36
be
3:36
like,
3:36
you
3:36
guys
3:36
want
3:37
to
3:37
talk
3:37
about
3:37
that?
3:37
But
3:37
instead
3:38
this
3:38
opening
3:38
came
3:38
up
3:39
before
3:39
I
3:39
finished
3:39
playing
3:40
the
3:40
games.
3:41
Played
3:41
them
3:41
before,
3:41
but
3:42
it's
3:42
been
3:42
a
3:42
long
3:42
time.
3:43
So
3:43
right
3:44
now
3:44
I'm
3:44
like,
3:44
halfway
3:44
through
3:45
my
3:45
second
3:45
playground.
3:46
But
3:46
that's
3:47
what
3:47
we're
3:47
talking
3:47
about.
3:47
We're
3:47
talking
3:48
about
3:48
Mass,
3:48
the
3:48
video
3:48
game
3:49
series
3:49
and
3:49
how
3:49
it
3:49
relates
3:50
to
3:50
church
3:50
unity.
3:51
Because
3:51
we
3:51
know
3:52
not
3:52
everyone
3:52
listening
3:52
is
3:52
a
3:53
geek.
3:53
We'll
3:53
do
3:53
our
3:53
best
3:54
to
3:54
explain
3:54
it
3:54
in
3:54
terms
3:55
that
3:55
make
3:55
sense
3:55
to
3:56
people
3:56
who
3:57
haven't
3:57
played
3:57
Mass
3:57
Effect
3:58
if
3:58
we
3:58
can.
3:59
Yeah,
4:00
yeah.
4:00
Christian
4:01
Ashley,
4:01
returned
4:02
guest,
4:02
good
4:02
friend
4:03
of
4:03
ours.
4:03
He
4:03
hosts
4:04
the
4:04
Let
4:04
Nothing
4:04
move
4:05
you
4:05
podcast
4:05
along
4:06
with
4:06
every
4:07
other
4:07
show
4:08
on
4:08
Earth.
4:09
But
4:09
let
4:10
knowing
4:10
Mingyu
4:10
specifically
4:11
is
4:11
about
4:12
going
4:12
through
4:12
the
4:12
Bible
4:12
one
4:13
chapter
4:13
at
4:13
a
4:13
time.
4:15
So
4:15
if
4:15
you
4:15
want
4:15
something
4:16
to
4:16
listen
4:16
to
4:16
for
4:16
the
4:16
next
4:17
60
4:17
years,
4:19
there
4:19
you
4:19
go.
4:21
I'm
4:21
your
4:21
man.
4:21
He
4:22
also
4:22
hosts
4:23
Systematic
4:23
Ecology.
4:24
We're
4:25
doing
4:25
the
4:25
crossover.
4:25
He
4:26
hosts
4:26
why
4:26
I
4:27
don't
4:27
like,
4:27
where
4:27
he
4:27
just
4:28
kind
4:28
of
4:28
talks
4:28
about
4:28
what
4:29
he
4:29
doesn't
4:29
like
4:29
and
4:30
gives
4:30
it
4:30
a
4:31
good
4:31
faith
4:31
review
4:32
when
4:32
possible.
4:34
Friday
4:34
night
4:35
Frights,
4:35
he
4:35
discusses
4:35
with
4:36
Joe
4:36
Day
4:36
what
4:36
goes
4:36
bump
4:37
in
4:37
the
4:37
night,
4:37
from
4:37
cryptozoology
4:38
to
4:38
serial
4:39
killers
4:40
and
4:40
more.
4:40
He
4:40
hosts
4:41
Spidey
4:41
Swing
4:41
Bys
4:42
where
4:42
he
4:42
goes
4:42
through
4:43
Spider
4:43
man
4:43
comics.
4:44
He's
4:44
the
4:45
author
4:45
of
4:45
the
4:45
Azaril
4:46
Chronicles
4:47
and
4:48
more.
4:48
Anything
4:49
that
4:50
you
4:50
need
4:50
to
4:50
need
4:51
us
4:51
to
4:51
add
4:51
to
4:51
the
4:51
rap
4:51
sheet,
4:52
we
4:52
can.
4:52
But
4:53
there's
4:53
a
4:53
time
4:54
anyone's
4:54
bio
4:54
has
4:55
et
4:55
al.
4:55
At
4:55
the
4:55
end,
4:55
it's
4:56
Christian
4:56
et
4:57
al.
4:57
Yeah,
4:58
so
4:59
what?
4:59
If
4:59
you're
5:00
listening
5:00
to
5:00
us,
5:00
go
5:00
to
5:00
our
5:00
website,
5:01
purchase
5:01
one
5:01
of
5:01
our
5:01
T
5:01
shirts.
5:02
If
5:02
you're
5:02
listening
5:02
for
5:02
either
5:03
show,
5:03
this
5:03
still
5:03
applies.
5:04
It
5:04
helps
5:04
promote
5:05
the
5:05
show,
5:05
raise
5:05
money
5:06
for
5:06
podcasting
5:07
needs,
5:07
and
5:07
gets
5:07
others
5:07
to
5:08
know
5:08
about
5:08
the
5:08
importance
5:08
of
5:09
our
5:09
mission
5:10
to
5:10
educate
5:10
and
5:10
unite
5:11
the
5:11
modern
5:12
church.
5:12
Or
5:14
talk
5:14
about
5:15
theology
5:15
and
5:16
geek
5:16
stuff.
5:17
Yeah.
5:19
So
5:20
one
5:20
of
5:20
our
5:21
Shirts
5:21
one
5:21
Josh
5:21
is
5:22
wearing
5:22
today
5:23
is
5:23
for
5:23
systematic
5:24
ecology.
5:24
I'm
5:24
gonna
5:25
shout
5:25
that
5:25
one
5:25
out.
5:26
I,
5:26
of
5:26
course,
5:26
always
5:27
am
5:27
a
5:27
big
5:27
proponent
5:28
of
5:28
the
5:28
TJ
5:28
quote
5:29
on
5:29
the
5:29
back
5:29
shirt
5:30
for
5:30
both
5:30
shows.
5:31
Yeah,
5:32
both
5:32
shirts
5:33
have
5:33
a
5:33
logo
5:33
on
5:33
the
5:34
front
5:34
with
5:34
nothing
5:34
on
5:34
the
5:34
back.
5:35
And
5:35
the
5:35
name
5:35
of
5:35
both
5:36
shirts
5:36
is
5:36
still
5:36
TJ
5:37
quote
5:37
on
5:37
the
5:37
back.
5:38
Yeah,
5:39
there's
5:39
a
5:39
good
5:39
bit.
5:40
It's
5:40
good
5:40
bit.
5:41
Logo
5:41
on
5:41
the
5:41
front,
5:41
logo
5:42
on
5:42
a
5:42
sleeve,
5:43
nothing
5:43
on
5:43
the
5:43
back.
5:43
It's
5:44
perfect.
5:44
Check
5:44
out
5:44
the
5:44
Honest
5:45
out
5:45
podcast
5:45
network
5:46
for
5:46
shows
5:47
like
5:47
ours
5:47
and
5:47
most
5:48
of
5:48
the
5:48
shows
5:48
that
5:48
Christian
5:49
does.
5:50
Yeah,
5:50
I
5:50
mean,
5:51
I
5:51
think
5:51
all
5:51
the
5:51
Christians
5:52
shows
5:52
that
5:52
Christian
5:52
does.
5:53
Secret
5:54
podcast.
5:54
We
5:55
aren't
5:55
done.
5:56
None
5:56
of
5:56
us
5:56
are
5:56
on.
5:56
That's
5:57
true.
5:57
He
5:57
might
5:57
have
5:58
one
5:58
on
5:58
Joe's
5:58
network
5:58
that
5:59
we
5:59
don't
5:59
know
5:59
about.
5:59
Yeah,
6:01
I
6:02
do
6:02
too.
6:03
Want
6:04
to
6:04
shout
6:04
out.
6:04
Since
6:04
we
6:04
talked
6:05
a
6:05
lot
6:05
about
6:05
different
6:05
podcasts
6:06
on
6:06
the
6:06
Amazon
6:06
podcast
6:07
Network.
6:08
You
6:08
can
6:08
get
6:08
an
6:08
Amazon
6:09
podcast
6:10
T
6:10
shirt,
6:11
and
6:11
there
6:11
is
6:11
one
6:12
that
6:12
has
6:12
nothing
6:12
on
6:12
the
6:12
back.
6:12
I
6:12
don't
6:13
think
6:13
it
6:13
says
6:13
DJ
6:13
quote.
6:13
I
6:14
think
6:14
it
6:14
just
6:14
says
6:14
on
6:14
the
6:14
podcast.
6:15
But
6:15
the.
6:16
The
6:16
one
6:17
I
6:17
like
6:17
has
6:17
a
6:18
bunch
6:18
of
6:18
stuff
6:18
on
6:18
the
6:18
back
6:18
and
6:19
is
6:19
about
6:19
honestly
6:19
engaging
6:20
horror.
6:22
Spider
6:22
man
6:22
comics.
6:22
I
6:22
don't
6:22
think
6:23
it's
6:23
a
6:23
Spider
6:23
man
6:23
comics.
6:23
Says
6:23
science,
6:24
church,
6:24
theology,
6:25
a
6:25
lot
6:25
of
6:26
different
6:26
fonts,
6:27
cool
6:27
stuff
6:27
on
6:27
there.
6:28
And,
6:28
you
6:28
know,
6:28
that's
6:28
what
6:28
that
6:29
whole
6:29
network
6:29
is
6:29
about.
6:29
It
6:29
just
6:30
honestly
6:30
engaging
6:31
the
6:31
world
6:31
we
6:31
live
6:31
in,
6:32
not
6:32
acting
6:32
like
6:32
we're
6:33
in
6:33
some
6:33
other
6:33
world.
6:33
And,
6:34
you
6:34
know,
6:34
we're
6:35
in
6:35
a
6:35
world
6:35
where
6:35
people
6:36
play
6:36
games
6:36
like
6:36
Mass
6:37
Effect,
6:37
so
6:38
it's
6:38
important
6:38
that
6:38
we
6:38
know
6:38
how
6:38
to
6:39
engage
6:39
such
6:39
a
6:39
topic
6:40
with
6:40
other
6:40
humans.
6:41
We're
6:42
in
6:42
a
6:42
world
6:42
where
6:42
the
6:43
church
6:43
has
6:43
a
6:43
big
6:44
impact
6:44
for
6:44
good
6:45
and
6:45
worse
6:46
sometimes.
6:47
And
6:47
it's
6:48
important
6:48
that
6:48
we
6:48
engage
6:48
the
6:49
church
6:49
as
6:49
it
6:49
is.
6:50
As
6:50
much
6:50
as
6:50
we
6:50
want
6:50
to
6:51
make
6:51
the
6:51
whole
6:51
church
6:51
whole
6:51
again,
6:52
it's
6:53
important
6:53
for
6:54
us
6:54
to
6:54
sometimes
6:55
recognize
6:55
that's
6:55
not
6:56
always
6:56
the
6:56
case.
6:57
Yeah,
6:57
so
6:57
we're
6:58
gonna
6:58
be
6:58
doing
6:58
some
6:58
of
6:58
that
6:58
today.
6:59
But
6:59
first,
7:00
we
7:00
always
7:00
like
7:00
to
7:01
do
7:01
a
7:01
holy
7:01
sacrament
7:02
over
7:02
here,
7:02
Christian,
7:02
that
7:02
I
7:03
think
7:03
you
7:03
know
7:03
about
7:04
called
7:04
silliness.
7:06
We
7:06
start
7:07
with
7:07
silly
7:07
question,
7:07
and
7:08
I'm
7:08
making
7:08
it
7:08
relevant
7:09
for
7:09
today's
7:09
topic.
7:10
If
7:11
Buzz
7:12
Lightyear
7:13
was
7:13
the
7:14
main
7:14
protagonist
7:14
of
7:14
the
7:14
Mass
7:15
Effect
7:15
instead
7:15
of
7:15
Commander
7:16
Shepard,
7:17
what
7:17
would
7:17
be
7:17
different?
7:18
Tj,
7:19
why
7:19
don't
7:19
you
7:19
start
7:19
this
7:19
one?
7:20
Okay.
7:21
Is
7:21
it
7:21
like,
7:22
fresh
7:22
out
7:22
of
7:22
the
7:22
box?
7:24
I
7:24
was
7:24
gonna
7:24
ask,
7:24
what
7:25
are
7:25
we
7:25
talking
7:25
about?
7:26
This
7:26
matters.
7:27
My
7:27
brain
7:27
was
7:28
thinking
7:28
from
7:28
the
7:29
animated
7:29
series
7:30
with
7:30
Paul.
7:30
So,
7:31
like,
7:33
man.
7:33
Yeah,
7:33
yeah.
7:34
Buzz
7:35
Lightyear,
7:35
a
7:35
Star
7:35
Command.
7:35
Not
7:36
the
7:36
toy.
7:36
Okay.
7:37
I.
7:39
I
7:39
think
7:39
the
7:39
Reapers
7:40
still
7:40
win.
7:42
I
7:43
think
7:43
they'd
7:43
win
7:43
a
7:43
lot
7:43
harder
7:44
if
7:44
it
7:44
was
7:44
like
7:44
a
7:44
fresh
7:45
out
7:45
of
7:45
the
7:45
box
7:45
Buzz
7:46
Lightyear.
7:48
But
7:49
I
7:49
don't
7:50
know,
7:50
does
7:50
he
7:50
get
7:50
to,
7:50
like,
7:51
play
7:51
through
7:51
the
7:52
entire
7:52
game?
7:52
Like,
7:53
is
7:53
it
7:53
just
7:53
Buzz
7:54
Lightyear
7:54
start
7:54
to
7:54
finish?
7:55
Sure,
7:55
yeah.
7:56
It's
7:56
just
7:56
Buzz.
7:57
He's
7:57
our
7:57
protag.
7:58
Okay.
7:58
He
7:58
might.
7:59
He
7:59
might.
8:00
He
8:00
might
8:00
be
8:01
able
8:01
to
8:01
get
8:01
it
8:01
done.
8:01
I
8:01
mean,
8:02
Commander
8:02
Shepard's
8:03
kind
8:03
of.
8:03
Kind
8:03
of
8:03
blank.
8:04
Kind
8:04
of
8:04
a
8:04
blank
8:05
slate.
8:07
As
8:08
long
8:08
as
8:08
he
8:09
still
8:09
gets
8:09
picked
8:09
up
8:10
at
8:10
the
8:10
start
8:10
of
8:10
Mass
8:10
Effect
8:11
2,
8:11
I
8:12
guess.
8:12
I
8:12
guess
8:12
we're
8:13
good.
8:15
You
8:15
know,
8:15
I
8:15
might
8:15
have
8:15
a
8:15
more
8:16
pessimistic
8:16
take
8:16
here.
8:17
Buzz
8:18
Lightyear
8:18
from
8:19
the
8:19
TV
8:19
series
8:21
had
8:21
a
8:21
lot,
8:22
you
8:22
know,
8:22
weak
8:22
history,
8:23
galactic
8:24
politics.
8:25
And
8:26
we
8:26
see
8:26
him
8:26
not
8:27
really
8:27
wanting
8:27
to
8:28
play
8:28
ball
8:28
with
8:29
the
8:29
diplomats.
8:30
You
8:30
know,
8:30
he's
8:31
kind
8:31
of
8:31
pushing
8:31
up
8:31
against
8:31
him
8:32
a
8:32
lot.
8:32
I
8:32
don't
8:32
think
8:32
he
8:33
ever
8:33
makes
8:34
it
8:34
to
8:34
being.
8:36
Why
8:36
can't
8:37
I
8:37
think
8:37
of
8:37
the
8:37
term
8:37
now?
8:38
Spectre.
8:38
Yeah.
8:39
I
8:39
don't
8:39
think
8:39
he
8:39
ever
8:39
gets
8:40
made
8:40
a
8:40
Spectre.
8:40
I
8:40
think
8:40
he
8:40
does
8:41
because
8:41
he's
8:41
too
8:42
anti.
8:43
I
8:43
don't
8:43
know.
8:44
That's
8:44
what
8:44
I'm
8:44
thinking.
8:45
I.
8:45
I
8:45
think
8:45
it
8:45
does.
8:46
I
8:46
think
8:46
he
8:46
would
8:47
have
8:47
a
8:47
very
8:48
similar
8:48
path
8:49
to
8:49
Commander
8:50
Shepard.
8:51
I
8:51
hope
8:51
so.
8:52
And
8:52
then
8:52
he
8:52
has
8:53
proved
8:54
tiebreaker.
8:55
What's
8:55
Buzz
8:55
Lightyear
8:56
doing
8:56
here?
8:57
He's
8:58
gonna
8:58
crash
8:58
and
8:58
burn
8:58
the
8:59
galaxy,
8:59
man.
8:59
I
8:59
hate
9:00
to
9:00
say
9:00
it.
9:00
I
9:00
love
9:00
Buzz,
9:01
but
9:01
he
9:01
doesn't
9:02
have
9:02
the
9:02
charisma
9:03
that
9:04
Shepard
9:04
does.
9:06
You
9:06
know,
9:06
eventually,
9:07
you
9:07
know,
9:07
in
9:07
soccer,
9:07
man,
9:07
he
9:08
learns
9:08
how
9:08
to
9:08
work
9:08
with
9:08
people.
9:09
You
9:09
know,
9:09
after
9:10
the
9:10
end
9:10
of
9:10
the
9:10
movie
9:11
and
9:11
then
9:11
the
9:11
series
9:11
itself
9:12
with
9:12
Mira
9:13
and
9:13
Booster
9:14
and
9:14
XR
9:14
and
9:14
everyone.
9:15
But,
9:15
like,
9:16
that's
9:16
rough.
9:17
And
9:18
putting
9:18
him
9:19
among
9:19
the
9:19
crew
9:19
of
9:19
the
9:19
Normandy,
9:20
I
9:20
don't
9:20
expect
9:21
that
9:21
to
9:21
go
9:21
as
9:22
well.
9:23
So
9:23
I
9:24
imagine
9:24
Reaper
9:25
victory,
9:25
counterpoint.
9:26
If
9:27
he
9:27
gets
9:27
to
9:27
bring
9:27
Booster
9:28
with
9:28
him,
9:29
I
9:29
think
9:30
he
9:30
wins.
9:31
Maybe.
9:31
But
9:32
if
9:32
he's
9:32
not
9:32
able
9:33
to
9:33
establish
9:33
the
9:34
same
9:34
kind
9:34
of
9:34
relationship
9:35
with
9:35
Joker
9:36
that
9:37
Shepard
9:38
can.
9:38
Yeah.
9:39
Which,
9:39
true,
9:40
we're
9:40
doing
9:41
a
9:41
really
9:41
bad
9:41
job
9:41
of
9:41
making
9:42
this
9:42
easy
9:42
for
9:43
people
9:43
who
9:43
haven't
9:43
played
9:43
math.
9:45
So
9:45
I'm
9:45
gonna
9:45
move
9:45
on
9:45
to
9:46
the
9:46
question.
9:49
We'll
9:49
explain
9:49
some
9:50
of
9:50
what
9:50
we're
9:50
talking
9:50
about
9:50
in
9:50
this
9:51
silliness
9:52
here
9:52
in
9:52
a
9:52
second.
9:52
We'll
9:53
try.
9:54
We'll
9:54
try.
9:54
Half
9:54
the
9:55
fandom
9:55
is
9:55
like
9:55
bringing
9:56
up
9:56
proper
9:56
nouns.
9:57
Yeah.
9:57
And
9:58
then
9:58
people
9:58
going,
9:58
what?
9:59
Yeah,
9:59
yeah.
10:00
So
10:00
that
10:01
seems
10:01
accurate.
10:02
And
10:02
we've
10:02
got
10:03
to
10:03
start
10:03
with
10:03
our
10:04
history
10:04
of
10:05
Mass
10:05
Effect,
10:07
so
10:07
we're
10:07
going
10:08
to
10:08
start
10:08
with
10:08
you
10:08
Christian,
10:08
you're
10:08
an
10:09
honored
10:09
guest.
10:10
You
10:10
alone
10:10
are
10:10
the
10:11
honored
10:11
one.
10:12
What
10:13
is
10:13
your
10:13
history
10:14
of
10:14
Mass
10:14
Effect
10:14
and
10:15
what
10:15
impact
10:16
has
10:16
it
10:16
had
10:16
on
10:17
the
10:17
gaming
10:17
community
10:17
at
10:17
large?
10:19
Well,
10:19
thanks
10:19
for
10:19
the
10:19
jujutsu
10:20
Kaisen
10:20
intro
10:21
there.
10:21
I
10:21
really
10:21
appreciate
10:22
that
10:22
one.
10:23
I
10:23
am
10:24
indeed
10:24
the
10:24
honored
10:24
one.
10:25
And
10:25
in
10:25
so
10:25
doing,
10:26
I
10:26
played
10:26
these
10:27
games
10:28
very
10:28
early
10:28
on
10:28
in
10:29
high
10:29
school.
10:30
My
10:30
friend
10:31
Todd
10:32
actually
10:32
gave
10:33
me
10:33
his
10:33
game
10:34
because
10:34
he
10:34
was
10:35
about
10:35
to
10:35
go
10:35
off.
10:36
No,
10:36
unfortunately,
10:37
no.
10:37
Todd
10:38
Howard
10:38
and
10:38
I
10:38
are
10:38
not
10:38
besties.
10:40
Before
10:40
he
10:40
went
10:40
off
10:41
to
10:41
go
10:41
join
10:41
the
10:41
military,
10:42
he
10:42
gave
10:42
me
10:42
a
10:43
bunch
10:43
of
10:43
his
10:43
stuff.
10:43
That's
10:43
how
10:43
I
10:43
got
10:44
my
10:44
Firefly
10:45
DVD
10:45
set
10:45
and
10:45
Serenity
10:46
and
10:46
all
10:46
that
10:46
and
10:47
a
10:47
couple
10:47
of
10:47
other
10:47
games.
10:47
But
10:48
Mass
10:48
Effect
10:48
was
10:48
in
10:49
there
10:49
and
10:49
he
10:49
said,
10:50
dude,
10:50
you're
10:50
gonna
10:50
love
10:50
it.
10:51
I
10:51
know
10:51
you,
10:51
you
10:51
love
10:52
your
10:52
Star
10:52
wars,
10:52
you
10:52
love
10:52
your
10:53
Star
10:53
Trek.
10:53
You're
10:53
gonna
10:53
love
10:53
this
10:54
too.
10:54
And
10:54
you
10:54
know
10:54
what?
10:54
He
10:54
was
10:55
absolutely
10:55
right.
10:56
So
10:56
when
10:56
two
10:56
came
10:57
out,
10:57
day
10:57
one
10:57
by.
10:58
When
10:58
Mass
10:58
Effect
10:59
3
10:59
came
10:59
out
10:59
a
11:00
couple
11:00
of
11:00
months
11:00
by.
11:00
Because
11:01
I
11:01
was
11:01
poor
11:01
then,
11:01
but
11:02
you
11:02
know,
11:02
eventually
11:03
I
11:03
got
11:03
there.
11:04
I
11:04
played
11:04
Andromeda
11:05
as
11:05
well.
11:05
It's
11:06
is
11:06
what
11:07
it
11:07
is.
11:07
It's
11:07
not
11:07
the
11:08
best,
11:08
it's
11:08
not
11:08
the
11:08
worst.
11:09
And
11:09
yeah,
11:10
hopefully
11:10
they
11:11
can
11:11
make
11:11
another
11:11
game
11:11
in
11:11
the
11:11
series
11:12
soon.
11:12
Even
11:12
though
11:12
we
11:12
have
11:13
gotten
11:13
an
11:13
announcement,
11:14
haven't
11:14
we?
11:14
Of
11:14
a
11:14
five.
11:15
We
11:15
have,
11:15
yeah.
11:15
Pretty
11:16
recently.
11:16
Yeah.
11:16
Yeah,
11:17
that's
11:17
it.
11:17
That's
11:17
just
11:18
an
11:18
announcement.
11:18
And
11:18
I
11:19
disagree.
11:20
I
11:20
think
11:20
Andromeda
11:21
is
11:21
the
11:21
worst
11:22
of
11:22
the
11:22
four.
11:23
I'm
11:23
not
11:23
saying
11:23
it's
11:23
not
11:23
the
11:23
worst.
11:24
I'm
11:24
saying
11:24
it's
11:24
a
11:24
little
11:25
better
11:25
than
11:25
people
11:25
make
11:26
it
11:26
out
11:26
to
11:26
be.
11:26
Yeah,
11:26
it's
11:27
not.
11:27
It's
11:27
really
11:27
not
11:27
that
11:28
bad.
11:28
Especially
11:28
today
11:28
when
11:29
it
11:29
launched,
11:29
it
11:29
had
11:29
some
11:29
issues.
11:30
Yeah,
11:31
it's
11:31
worse
11:32
issues.
11:33
It's
11:33
fine.
11:33
There's
11:33
a
11:34
Mass
11:34
Effect.
11:35
Yeah.
11:35
Mass
11:36
Effect,
11:36
Andromeda.
11:37
Yes.
11:38
Okay.
11:39
Yeah,
11:39
I
11:39
didn't
11:40
know
11:40
about
11:40
that
11:40
until
11:40
like
11:41
right
11:41
this
11:41
second
11:43
that
11:43
we're
11:43
speaking.
11:44
It
11:44
is
11:45
different.
11:45
It
11:45
will
11:45
feel
11:45
different.
11:46
Yeah.
11:47
What
11:47
about
11:47
you?
11:48
What
11:48
about
11:48
you,
11:48
Josh?
11:49
What's
11:49
your
11:49
Mass
11:49
Effect
11:50
history?
11:51
Well,
11:52
I
11:52
was
11:53
not
11:53
allowed
11:53
to
11:53
play
11:53
it
11:53
when
11:54
it
11:54
came
11:54
out,
11:55
so
11:56
most
11:56
games
11:57
that
11:57
everybody
11:57
was
11:57
talking
11:57
about,
11:58
cuz
11:58
at
11:58
least
11:58
in
11:58
my
11:59
circles,
11:59
this
11:59
was
11:59
one
11:59
of
11:59
those
12:00
that
12:00
like
12:01
everybody
12:01
was
12:01
talking
12:02
about
12:02
Mass
12:02
Effect
12:02
even
12:03
if
12:03
they
12:03
didn't
12:03
play
12:03
it
12:05
seemed
12:05
to
12:05
be
12:06
the
12:06
case
12:06
where
12:06
a
12:06
lot
12:06
of
12:06
them,
12:06
once
12:07
I
12:07
started
12:07
playing,
12:07
I
12:07
was
12:07
like,
12:07
I
12:08
don't
12:08
think
12:08
these
12:08
guys
12:08
know
12:08
what
12:08
they're
12:08
talking
12:09
about.
12:09
I
12:09
think
12:09
they're
12:09
just
12:09
saying
12:09
it
12:10
because
12:10
everybody
12:10
else
12:10
is
12:10
talking
12:11
about.
12:11
Anyway,
12:13
I
12:13
was
12:14
unmedicated
12:15
when
12:15
I
12:15
first
12:15
tried
12:15
to
12:15
play
12:16
It.
12:16
I
12:16
remember
12:16
going
12:17
to
12:17
a
12:17
neighbor's
12:17
house
12:18
because
12:18
that's
12:18
how
12:19
I
12:19
played
12:19
all
12:19
the
12:19
games
12:19
I
12:19
wasn't
12:20
allowed
12:20
to
12:20
play.
12:20
And
12:20
I
12:20
watched
12:21
him
12:21
play
12:21
some
12:21
and
12:21
it
12:21
didn't
12:22
make
12:22
any
12:22
sense,
12:22
but
12:22
I
12:22
was
12:22
like,
12:23
I
12:23
want
12:23
to
12:23
play
12:23
because
12:23
the
12:23
shooting
12:24
part
12:24
looks
12:24
cool.
12:24
And
12:25
I'm
12:25
like,
12:25
you
12:25
had
12:25
to
12:25
keep
12:25
making
12:26
choices.
12:26
So
12:26
I
12:26
couldn't
12:26
just
12:27
ignore
12:27
the
12:27
videos.
12:28
So
12:28
I
12:28
just
12:28
clicked
12:29
X
12:29
the
12:29
whole
12:29
time.
12:30
Whatever
12:30
she
12:30
said
12:30
was
12:31
whatever
12:31
she
12:31
said.
12:31
I
12:32
don't
12:32
know.
12:33
And
12:33
then
12:33
I
12:33
just
12:33
shot
12:33
the
12:33
things.
12:34
When
12:34
I
12:34
finally
12:34
got
12:34
to
12:34
shoot
12:35
the
12:35
things,
12:35
and
12:36
I
12:36
was
12:36
like,
12:36
I
12:36
guess
12:36
this
12:37
is
12:37
okay
12:37
as
12:38
a
12:38
shooter
12:38
game.
12:39
Like,
12:39
if
12:39
that's
12:39
all
12:39
you're
12:39
trying
12:40
it
12:40
as,
12:41
it's
12:41
not
12:41
great
12:41
as
12:42
just
12:42
a
12:42
shooter
12:42
game.
12:43
It
12:44
was
12:44
just
12:44
so
12:44
much
12:45
story
12:45
to
12:46
try
12:46
to
12:46
ignore
12:49
at
12:49
the
12:49
time,
12:49
though
12:49
it
12:49
came
12:49
out.
12:50
This
12:50
is
12:50
my
12:50
experience
12:51
you
12:51
could
12:51
talk
12:51
about.
12:53
But
12:55
I
12:55
did
12:55
eventually
12:56
get
12:56
through
12:56
it,
12:56
and
12:57
I
12:57
got
12:57
confused
12:57
at
12:58
a
12:58
lot
12:58
of
12:58
parts,
12:58
so
12:58
I
12:58
kept
12:58
looking
12:58
up
12:59
what
12:59
was
12:59
happening
12:59
because
12:59
I'm
13:00
like,
13:00
I
13:00
guess
13:00
I
13:00
want
13:01
to
13:01
know
13:01
who
13:01
I'm
13:01
shooting.
13:03
And,
13:03
you
13:04
know,
13:04
I
13:04
pieced
13:04
together
13:04
parts
13:05
of
13:05
the
13:05
story.
13:05
Then
13:05
when
13:05
everybody
13:05
was
13:06
talking
13:06
about
13:06
it
13:06
at
13:06
school,
13:07
I
13:07
kind
13:07
of
13:07
got
13:07
the
13:07
story
13:07
from
13:08
them.
13:08
But
13:08
I
13:08
don't
13:08
think
13:08
I
13:08
ever
13:09
really
13:09
had
13:09
the
13:10
story
13:11
until
13:11
this
13:11
go
13:12
round
13:12
and
13:12
I'm
13:12
like
13:13
one
13:13
and
13:13
a
13:13
half
13:13
through
13:14
and
13:14
like,
13:14
I
13:14
know
13:14
what
13:14
happens,
13:16
but
13:16
I'm
13:16
like,
13:17
yeah,
13:17
I
13:17
definitely
13:17
was
13:18
not
13:18
paying
13:18
attention
13:18
the
13:19
first
13:19
time
13:19
I
13:19
played
13:19
these
13:20
games.
13:21
So
13:21
now
13:21
Medicated
13:22
Josh
13:22
likes
13:23
Mass
13:23
Effect
13:23
way
13:24
more
13:24
than
13:24
unmedicated
13:25
Josh
13:25
did.
13:27
Yeah.
13:27
When
13:27
you
13:28
have
13:28
a
13:28
story
13:28
of
13:29
you,
13:29
I
13:29
don't
13:30
know
13:30
what
13:30
else
13:30
is.
13:31
When
13:31
you
13:31
say
13:31
one
13:32
and
13:32
a
13:32
half,
13:32
are
13:32
you
13:33
like,
13:33
halfway
13:33
through
13:33
Mass
13:34
Effect
13:34
2
13:35
or
13:35
are
13:35
you.
13:35
Yeah,
13:36
okay,
13:36
cool.
13:37
I
13:37
just
13:37
wanted
13:38
to
13:38
make
13:38
sure
13:38
that
13:38
you're
13:38
not
13:39
just
13:39
playing
13:39
Mass
13:39
Effect
13:40
1
13:40
three
13:40
times,
13:42
which
13:42
is.
13:43
There's
13:43
nothing
13:43
wrong
13:43
with
13:43
that.
13:44
I
13:44
mean,
13:44
that
13:44
wouldn't
13:45
be
13:45
surprising.
13:45
I
13:46
don't
13:46
think
13:47
I
13:47
thought
13:47
about
13:47
playing
13:48
again
13:48
because
13:48
I
13:48
was
13:48
like,
13:49
is
13:49
there
13:49
a
13:49
world
13:50
where
13:50
I
13:50
can
13:50
keep.
13:51
What's
13:51
his
13:51
name?
13:51
Rex.
13:52
Rex.
13:53
I
13:53
really
13:53
had
13:53
to
13:53
look
13:53
up.
13:54
I
13:54
was
13:54
like,
13:54
can
13:54
I
13:54
keep
13:54
him
13:54
from
13:55
dying?
13:56
Very
13:57
easily.
13:57
Yeah.
13:58
Well,
13:59
Google
13:59
told
13:59
me
14:00
no,
14:00
so
14:00
I
14:00
didn't
14:00
play
14:01
again.
14:01
You
14:01
can't
14:02
keep
14:02
him
14:02
on
14:02
your
14:02
team,
14:03
but
14:03
you
14:03
can
14:03
keep
14:03
it
14:04
from
14:04
dying.
14:04
Yeah.
14:05
Oh.
14:06
Anyway,
14:07
about
14:08
that
14:08
later.
14:09
Mass
14:09
Effect,
14:11
I.
14:12
I
14:12
didn't
14:13
have
14:14
an
14:14
Xbox
14:14
360
14:15
until,
14:15
like
14:15
2012.ish.2013ish
14:20
because
14:20
we
14:20
were
14:20
poor.
14:21
But
14:22
we
14:22
got
14:22
one
14:22
eventually.
14:22
And
14:23
Mass
14:23
Effect
14:23
was
14:24
one
14:24
of
14:24
the
14:24
first
14:24
games
14:24
that
14:24
I
14:25
got
14:25
for
14:25
the
14:26
Xbox360
14:29
beautiful.
14:30
Beautiful.
14:31
I
14:31
fell
14:31
in
14:32
love
14:32
with
14:32
the
14:32
story.
14:34
I
14:34
was.
14:35
I
14:35
was
14:35
in
14:35
eighth
14:36
grade,
14:37
so
14:37
I
14:37
was
14:37
13,
14:38
I
14:38
think,
14:39
when
14:39
I
14:39
was
14:39
playing
14:40
through
14:40
Mass
14:40
Effect.
14:41
And
14:42
man,
14:42
it
14:42
was
14:42
just
14:44
perfect.
14:45
It
14:45
was
14:45
exactly
14:46
what
14:46
I
14:46
wanted
14:47
in
14:47
a
14:48
game.
14:49
To
14:49
date,
14:50
I
14:50
don't
14:50
know
14:50
if
14:50
I've
14:50
played
14:51
a
14:52
better
14:52
game
14:52
that
14:53
I
14:53
would
14:53
call
14:53
just
14:54
like
14:54
strictly
14:54
sci
14:55
fi.
14:56
That
14:56
was
14:57
kind
14:57
of
14:57
what
14:57
it
14:57
was
14:57
for
14:57
me.
14:57
And
14:58
Mass
14:58
Effect
14:58
became
14:58
like
14:59
this
14:59
huge
15:00
kind
15:00
of
15:01
pillar
15:01
of
15:01
my
15:01
life
15:01
for
15:01
a
15:01
little
15:02
while
15:02
just
15:03
because
15:03
it
15:03
was
15:03
awesome.
15:03
And
15:04
then
15:04
finding
15:04
out
15:04
that
15:05
your
15:05
choices
15:05
carry
15:06
over
15:07
from
15:07
one
15:07
to
15:07
two
15:07
to
15:07
three,
15:08
that
15:08
was
15:08
the
15:09
coolest
15:09
thing
15:09
in
15:09
the
15:10
world
15:10
to
15:10
me.
15:12
So
15:12
if
15:13
I
15:13
really
15:13
wanted
15:13
to
15:14
do
15:14
like
15:14
a
15:14
second
15:15
playthrough,
15:15
I
15:16
had
15:16
to
15:16
start
15:16
at
15:16
Mass
15:16
Effect
15:17
1
15:17
and
15:17
make
15:18
different
15:18
choices
15:19
and
15:19
get
15:19
rid
15:20
of
15:20
the
15:20
other
15:20
save
15:20
and
15:21
start
15:21
Mass
15:21
Effect
15:22
2.
15:22
And
15:22
it
15:22
was
15:22
so
15:22
cool.
15:22
It
15:23
was
15:23
the
15:23
coolest
15:23
thing
15:23
ever
15:25
on
15:25
the
15:26
community
15:26
at
15:26
large.
15:27
I
15:27
do
15:28
feel
15:28
like
15:28
Mass
15:29
Effect
15:29
has
15:29
left
15:29
this
15:30
massive
15:31
impression
15:32
on
15:32
people
15:33
that
15:33
got
15:33
almost
15:33
entirely
15:35
effect
15:35
on
15:35
it.
15:35
It
15:36
had
15:36
a
15:36
massive
15:36
effect
15:37
on
15:37
everyone.
15:39
The
15:39
ending
15:39
of
15:39
Mass
15:39
Effect
15:40
3
15:40
combined
15:41
with
15:41
the
15:41
release
15:41
of
15:42
Mass
15:42
Effect
15:42
Andromeda,
15:43
I
15:43
think
15:43
left
15:44
a
15:44
really
15:44
bad
15:44
taste
15:45
in
15:45
most
15:45
people's
15:46
mouths
15:47
that
15:47
kind
15:48
of
15:48
blew
15:48
all
15:48
of
15:49
the
15:50
good
15:50
faith
15:51
that
15:51
it
15:51
had
15:51
built
15:52
up
15:52
over
15:52
Mass
15:53
Effect
15:53
1
15:53
and
15:53
2.
15:54
But
15:55
they're
15:55
still
15:55
great
15:55
games.
15:56
Most
15:56
of
15:56
Mass
15:57
Effect
15:57
3
15:57
is
15:57
still
15:58
really
15:58
good
15:59
game.
16:00
Just.
16:01
Yes,
16:01
a
16:02
lot.
16:02
It
16:02
loses
16:03
a
16:03
lot
16:03
from.
16:04
From
16:04
1
16:04
and
16:05
2.
16:07
But
16:07
I.
16:07
I
16:07
still
16:08
feel
16:08
like
16:08
if
16:08
you
16:09
ask
16:09
most
16:09
people
16:10
if
16:10
they
16:10
liked
16:11
Mass
16:11
Effect,
16:11
they
16:11
would
16:12
say
16:12
yes.
16:13
Yes.
16:14
Yeah.
16:15
Three
16:15
suffers
16:16
from
16:16
the
16:16
fact
16:16
that
16:16
it's
16:16
amazing
16:17
until
16:17
you
16:17
get
16:18
towards
16:18
the
16:18
end
16:19
where
16:19
certain
16:20
choices
16:21
allegedly
16:22
are
16:22
there
16:23
that
16:23
you
16:23
have
16:24
to
16:24
make.
16:25
Yeah.
16:25
The
16:25
game
16:26
that
16:26
truly
16:27
built
16:27
itself
16:28
off
16:28
of.
16:28
It's
16:29
your
16:29
game.
16:29
You
16:30
make
16:30
the
16:30
decisions.
16:31
You
16:31
change
16:31
the
16:31
world.
16:32
Ending
16:32
with
16:35
a
16:35
split
16:35
doorway
16:36
that
16:36
leads
16:36
down
16:36
the
16:37
same
16:37
hallway.
16:37
It
16:38
was
16:38
really,
16:39
really
16:40
something.
16:41
I
16:41
also
16:42
think
16:42
it's
16:42
gonna.
16:43
Large
16:43
parts
16:43
of
16:44
this
16:44
game
16:44
series
16:45
throughout
16:45
infuriate
16:46
me.
16:46
Someone
16:46
who
16:47
hates
16:47
the
16:47
whole
16:48
luster
16:48
of
16:49
two
16:49
evils,
16:49
you
16:50
know,
16:50
the
16:50
whole
16:53
utilitarian
16:53
mindset.
16:54
Because
16:55
I
16:55
feel
16:55
like
16:55
it
16:55
does
16:55
put
16:55
you
16:56
in
16:56
a
16:56
position
16:56
where
16:56
you
16:56
kind
16:56
of
16:57
have
16:57
to
16:57
do
16:57
those
16:57
decisions.
16:59
Almost
16:59
like
16:59
challenges
17:00
you.
17:01
Yeah.
17:01
Mostly
17:02
because
17:02
it's
17:02
only
17:02
A
17:02
or
17:03
B.
17:03
I
17:03
don't
17:04
think
17:04
real
17:04
life
17:04
works
17:04
that
17:05
way,
17:05
but
17:05
it's
17:06
fine.
17:06
Yeah.
17:06
It's
17:07
not
17:07
deep
17:07
enough
17:07
for
17:07
Josh.
17:09
Well,
17:10
I'm
17:10
just
17:11
a
17:11
curmudgeon
17:11
that's
17:12
like.
17:12
You
17:12
never
17:12
only
17:12
have
17:13
two
17:13
choices.
17:13
How
17:13
dare
17:14
you.
17:14
And
17:15
then
17:15
I
17:15
think
17:15
it
17:15
would
17:15
just
17:16
gonna
17:16
infuriate
17:16
me
17:17
even
17:17
more
17:17
when
17:17
I
17:17
finally
17:18
get
17:18
to
17:18
the
17:18
end,
17:18
where
17:18
it's
17:18
like
17:19
you
17:19
only
17:19
have
17:19
two
17:19
choices,
17:19
but
17:20
it's
17:20
also
17:20
only
17:20
one.
17:22
No,
17:23
three,
17:23
technically
17:24
a
17:24
fourth.
17:25
And
17:25
the
17:26
end
17:26
result.
17:28
Yeah.
17:29
Anyway,
17:29
so
17:30
let's
17:31
talk
17:31
about
17:31
the
17:31
story.
17:33
Tj,
17:33
you're
17:33
great
17:33
at
17:34
summarizing
17:34
things.
17:35
What
17:35
happens
17:36
in
17:36
the
17:37
first
17:37
three
17:37
Mass
17:37
Effect
17:37
games?
17:38
We'll
17:38
just
17:38
keep
17:38
this
17:39
conversation.
17:39
Yeah,
17:39
we're
17:40
not
17:40
talking
17:40
about
17:40
Andromeda.
17:40
I
17:40
don't
17:41
know
17:41
about
17:41
that.
17:42
So
17:43
Mass
17:43
Effect
17:44
is
17:44
the
17:44
story
17:45
of
17:45
Commander
17:46
Shepard,
17:47
the
17:47
first
17:47
human
17:48
specter,
17:49
more
17:49
or
17:49
less,
17:49
trying
17:50
to
17:50
ingratiate
17:51
the
17:51
human
17:52
race
17:52
into
17:53
Galactic
17:54
Council,
17:54
as
17:55
it
17:55
were,
17:56
and
17:56
stop
17:56
the
17:57
Reaper
17:58
onslaught.
17:59
Sovereign.
17:59
Onslaught.
18:01
Sovereign's
18:01
the
18:01
name
18:02
of
18:02
one
18:02
of
18:02
the.
18:02
What's
18:03
Reaper
18:03
or
18:03
Sovereign.
18:05
Right.
18:05
Harbinger
18:06
is
18:06
two,
18:06
Sovereign's
18:07
one.
18:07
Yeah.
18:08
Yeah,
18:08
that's
18:09
what
18:09
I
18:09
was
18:09
thinking.
18:09
Yeah.
18:09
Yeah.
18:10
They
18:10
are
18:10
all
18:10
reapers.
18:11
Sovereign's
18:11
the
18:11
first,
18:12
Harbinger's
18:12
the
18:12
second
18:12
one,
18:13
third
18:13
one's
18:13
the
18:13
rest.
18:16
But,
18:16
yeah,
18:16
that's
18:16
pretty
18:17
much
18:18
what
18:18
it
18:18
is.
18:19
You
18:19
make
18:19
a
18:19
lot
18:19
of
18:19
choices.
18:20
You
18:20
build
18:20
a
18:20
big
18:21
crew.
18:21
Choose
18:21
which
18:21
ones
18:22
you
18:22
like.
18:23
Yeah,
18:23
it's.
18:23
Honestly,
18:24
the
18:24
first
18:24
one's
18:24
like
18:24
a
18:25
pretty.
18:25
Pretty
18:25
good,
18:26
like,
18:26
political
18:27
thriller
18:28
drama.
18:29
Yeah.
18:30
Which
18:30
you
18:31
navigate.
18:32
You
18:32
navigate
18:32
between
18:33
all
18:33
these
18:33
different
18:33
alien
18:34
races,
18:34
some
18:34
of
18:34
which
18:35
have
18:35
been
18:35
around
18:35
the
18:35
galactic,
18:36
you
18:36
know,
18:36
scale
18:37
larger
18:37
than.
18:37
Longer
18:38
than
18:38
humans
18:38
have.
18:39
Like,
18:39
humanity
18:39
is
18:40
kind
18:40
of
18:40
like
18:40
the
18:40
new
18:40
kid
18:40
on
18:40
the
18:40
block.
18:41
What's
18:41
our
18:41
place
18:41
in
18:42
this
18:42
society?
18:42
Why
18:42
don't
18:43
we
18:43
get
18:43
our
18:43
respect?
18:45
And
18:45
then,
18:45
you
18:46
know,
18:46
one
18:46
is,
18:47
we
18:47
found
18:47
this
18:47
threat
18:48
that's
18:48
ancient.
18:48
Oh,
18:49
no.
18:49
All
18:49
life
18:50
keeps
18:50
getting
18:50
eradicated
18:51
every
18:51
50,000
18:51
years
18:52
or
18:52
so.
18:53
Can
18:53
we
18:54
stop
18:54
that
18:54
threat?
18:54
You
18:55
kind
18:55
of
18:55
stop
18:55
the
18:55
threat
18:55
the
18:55
first
18:56
time
18:56
around,
18:56
but
18:56
there's
18:56
more
18:56
coming.
18:57
Two
18:58
is
18:58
your
18:59
character
19:00
dies
19:00
at
19:00
the
19:00
very
19:00
beginning.
19:01
Spoilers.
19:01
Then
19:01
is
19:01
brought
19:02
back
19:02
to
19:02
life
19:02
by
19:02
a
19:02
terrorist
19:03
human
19:03
organization
19:04
that
19:04
is
19:04
working
19:05
to
19:05
stop
19:05
the
19:05
Reapers.
19:06
You
19:07
assemble
19:07
some
19:08
of
19:08
your
19:08
old
19:08
crew,
19:08
some
19:09
new
19:09
people
19:10
to
19:10
go
19:10
on
19:10
a
19:10
suicide
19:11
mission
19:12
to
19:12
stop
19:13
the
19:13
birth
19:13
of
19:13
a
19:13
human
19:14
Reaper,
19:14
as
19:14
it
19:14
were.
19:14
Because
19:15
whether
19:15
you
19:15
find
19:15
out
19:15
the
19:15
human,
19:16
there's
19:16
gonna
19:16
be
19:16
Reapers,
19:17
take
19:17
the
19:18
DNA
19:19
and
19:19
the
19:20
genetics
19:20
of
19:20
people
19:21
that
19:21
they
19:21
conquer
19:21
to
19:22
make
19:22
new
19:22
Reapers
19:23
and
19:23
the
19:23
like.
19:23
And
19:24
then
19:24
three
19:24
is.
19:25
Oh,
19:25
no,
19:25
now
19:26
they're
19:26
actually
19:26
invading.
19:27
We
19:27
have
19:27
to
19:27
get
19:27
every.
19:27
All.
19:28
Every
19:28
single
19:28
one
19:28
of
19:28
these
19:28
alien
19:29
races
19:29
together
19:30
so
19:30
that
19:30
we
19:30
can
19:30
fight
19:31
off
19:31
against
19:31
Reaper
19:32
threat
19:32
and
19:32
not
19:32
be
19:32
the
19:33
next
19:34
group
19:34
of
19:34
species,
19:35
like,
19:35
destroyed
19:36
by
19:36
them
19:36
in
19:36
this
19:36
cycle.
19:37
Yeah.
19:37
So
19:38
Reapers
19:39
being
19:39
the
19:39
main
19:39
threat.
19:40
My
19:40
understanding,
19:41
and
19:41
I
19:42
don't
19:42
really
19:42
remember
19:42
all
19:42
of
19:43
it.
19:43
I'm
19:43
only
19:43
halfway
19:43
through
19:44
playing
19:44
the
19:44
games
19:44
again.
19:45
They're
19:45
kind
19:45
of
19:46
like,
19:47
I
19:47
don't
19:47
know,
19:47
create
19:48
is
19:48
the
19:48
right
19:48
word,
19:48
but
19:48
it
19:49
seems
19:49
like
19:49
they're
19:49
just
19:49
trying
19:49
to
19:49
stop
19:50
organic
19:50
life
19:51
from
19:51
destroying
19:51
all
19:51
synthetic
19:52
life
19:52
is
19:52
kind
19:52
of
19:52
their
19:53
deal.
19:53
So
19:53
they're
19:53
trying
19:53
to
19:53
wipe
19:54
out
19:54
all
19:54
organic
19:54
life
19:55
so
19:55
that
19:55
we
19:55
just
19:55
stop
19:55
doing
19:56
that.
19:56
Is
19:57
that
19:57
kind
19:57
of.
19:57
What
19:58
are
19:58
you,
19:58
a
19:58
sympathizer?
20:00
Yeah,
20:00
I'm
20:00
trying
20:01
to
20:01
understand.
20:02
That's
20:02
like
20:02
the
20:02
motive,
20:03
right?
20:03
Supposedly
20:04
he
20:04
does
20:04
have
20:05
those
20:05
metal
20:05
plates
20:05
he
20:05
was
20:05
talking
20:06
about
20:06
before
20:06
recording,
20:07
you
20:07
know,
20:08
definitely
20:08
got
20:08
some
20:08
reapers.
20:08
Can
20:08
I
20:08
just
20:09
get
20:09
a
20:09
yes?
20:09
No.
20:09
If
20:09
that's
20:10
the
20:10
motive,
20:11
I
20:11
want
20:12
to
20:12
know
20:12
if
20:12
I
20:12
have
20:12
the
20:13
story
20:13
correct
20:14
before
20:14
talking.
20:15
I
20:15
don't
20:16
think
20:16
the
20:16
Reapers
20:16
really
20:16
have
20:17
a
20:17
motive,
20:19
so
20:19
to
20:19
speak.
20:20
Their
20:20
motive
20:20
is
20:21
more
20:21
kind
20:21
of
20:21
just
20:22
growth
20:23
survival.
20:24
Faulty
20:24
AI
20:25
is
20:26
your
20:26
answer
20:26
to
20:26
the
20:26
question.
20:27
And
20:27
faulty
20:28
motivation.
20:28
They're
20:29
vi.
20:29
What
20:29
are
20:29
you
20:29
talking
20:30
about?
20:31
No,
20:33
I
20:33
know,
20:34
I
20:34
know
20:34
that.
20:34
Just
20:35
the
20:35
Citadel,
20:35
at
20:36
some
20:36
point,
20:36
try
20:36
to
20:36
argue.
20:37
No,
20:37
there
20:37
is
20:38
virtually
20:39
stupid.
20:40
Oh,
20:40
yes,
20:40
yes.
20:41
That
20:42
made
20:42
me
20:42
mad.
20:42
Sorry,
20:43
that's
20:43
a
20:43
tangent.
20:44
I
20:44
do
20:45
feel
20:45
like,
20:45
for
20:45
the
20:45
most
20:45
part,
20:45
Mass
20:46
Effect
20:46
is
20:46
kind
20:46
of
20:46
like
20:47
a
20:47
more
20:47
realistic
20:48
Star
20:48
Trek
20:49
of
20:49
like,
20:49
hey,
20:50
here's
20:50
all
20:51
the
20:51
alien
20:51
species
20:51
and
20:52
Starfleet
20:52
and
20:52
people
20:52
trying
20:53
to
20:53
come
20:53
together,
20:53
form
20:53
a
20:54
big
20:54
unity
20:54
to
20:54
protect
20:55
the
20:55
universe.
20:55
And
20:55
what
20:56
it
20:56
actually
20:56
looks
20:56
like
20:56
is
20:56
way
20:57
messier
20:57
than
20:57
Starfleet
20:58
ever
20:58
looks
20:58
for
20:58
some
20:59
reason.
21:01
You
21:01
can
21:01
blame
21:01
Ron
21:01
and
21:01
Barrett.
21:02
Yeah,
21:03
I
21:04
appreciate
21:04
it
21:04
because
21:04
he
21:04
was
21:05
a
21:05
humanist
21:05
who
21:05
thought
21:06
we'd
21:06
all
21:06
get
21:06
things
21:06
together
21:07
if
21:07
we
21:07
just
21:07
worked
21:08
together.
21:09
Kumbaya
21:09
and
21:09
all
21:09
that
21:10
nonsense,
21:10
thinking
21:10
that
21:10
it
21:11
would
21:11
actually
21:11
work
21:11
in
21:11
reality.
21:12
And
21:12
also
21:12
we
21:12
have
21:12
no
21:12
money,
21:13
even
21:13
though
21:13
we
21:13
don't
21:13
explain
21:14
how.
21:16
I
21:16
think
21:16
there
21:16
are
21:17
ways
21:17
to
21:17
make
21:17
it
21:17
work
21:18
better,
21:19
but
21:19
I
21:20
think
21:20
it's
21:20
more
21:20
realistic
21:21
that
21:21
there's
21:21
just
21:22
always
21:22
going
21:22
to
21:22
be
21:22
problems.
21:23
That's
21:24
true.
21:24
You
21:24
just
21:25
don't
21:26
use
21:26
money
21:27
just
21:27
like,
21:27
oh,
21:27
you
21:27
need
21:28
that.
21:28
Christian's
21:28
also
21:28
wearing
21:29
a
21:29
systematic
21:29
geekology
21:29
shirt.
21:30
You
21:30
didn't
21:30
mention
21:30
that.
21:31
I
21:31
didn't
21:31
see,
21:32
our
21:32
listeners
21:33
are
21:33
sad.
21:36
Okay,
21:36
so.
21:36
Yeah.
21:36
But
21:36
basically
21:38
put
21:38
that
21:38
out
21:38
there.
21:39
And
21:39
I
21:39
think.
21:40
Yeah,
21:40
me
21:40
too.
21:40
I
21:40
love
21:40
Star
21:41
Trek
21:41
too,
21:41
but
21:41
I
21:42
think
21:42
that
21:42
ending
21:43
with
21:44
a
21:44
large
21:45
part
21:45
of
21:45
Mass
21:45
Effect
21:45
3,
21:46
the
21:46
whole
21:46
we're
21:46
getting
21:47
the
21:47
alien
21:47
races
21:47
together
21:48
to
21:48
stop
21:49
this
21:49
threat
21:49
is
21:49
really
21:49
what
21:50
made
21:50
me
21:50
go,
21:50
hey,
21:50
this
21:50
could
21:51
be
21:51
a.
21:51
This
21:51
could
21:51
be
21:51
a
21:51
church
21:51
unity
21:52
conversation
21:53
as
21:53
well
21:53
as
21:53
some
21:53
of
21:53
the
21:53
politics
21:54
and
21:54
like
21:54
the
21:54
Citadel
21:55
and
21:55
stuff.
21:55
So
21:56
speaking
21:57
of
21:57
the
21:57
Citadel
21:58
is
21:58
basically
21:58
the
21:59
Coruscant.
22:00
The
22:00
Citadel
22:00
is
22:01
Coruscant
22:01
if
22:01
you're
22:01
a
22:01
Star
22:01
wars
22:02
fan.
22:02
If
22:02
you're
22:03
not
22:03
a
22:03
Star
22:03
wars
22:03
fan,
22:04
Big
22:04
planet.
22:04
That's
22:04
a
22:05
giant
22:05
city.
22:05
And
22:05
that's
22:06
where
22:06
like,
22:06
the
22:06
alien
22:06
races
22:07
meet
22:07
and
22:07
have
22:07
their.
22:08
Let's
22:08
find
22:08
ways
22:09
to
22:10
be
22:10
diplomatic
22:11
instead
22:11
of
22:11
killing
22:11
each
22:11
other.
22:12
I
22:12
think
22:12
it's
22:13
kind
22:13
of
22:13
short.
22:15
So
22:16
it's
22:16
essentially
22:16
the
22:17
Babylon
22:17
5.
22:18
Yeah,
22:18
that's
22:19
better.
22:19
But
22:20
a
22:20
less
22:20
popular
22:20
reference.
22:22
Yes.
22:23
So
22:23
what
22:24
can
22:24
we
22:24
learn
22:24
from
22:25
the
22:25
mistakes
22:25
of
22:25
the
22:25
Citadel?
22:26
And
22:26
like,
22:27
what
22:27
examples
22:28
from
22:28
galactic
22:29
diplomacy
22:30
are
22:30
relevant
22:30
to
22:31
church
22:31
unity
22:32
today
22:32
in
22:32
the
22:32
real
22:32
world?
22:33
You
22:33
know,
22:34
there's
22:34
no,
22:35
like,
22:36
a
22:36
sorry,
22:37
orthodox
22:37
church
22:38
for
22:38
us
22:38
to.
22:38
For
22:39
us
22:39
to
22:39
talk
22:39
to,
22:40
so.
22:40
Yet.
22:42
Yet.
22:44
Yet.
22:44
But
22:44
what
22:44
is
22:45
there
22:45
for
22:45
us
22:45
to
22:45
learn
22:45
there?
22:46
What
22:46
do
22:46
you
22:46
think?
22:47
I
22:47
think
22:47
what
22:48
you
22:48
said
22:48
earlier
22:48
is
22:48
something
22:49
I've
22:49
thought
22:49
of
22:49
too,
22:49
Joshua,
22:50
about
22:50
how
22:50
the
22:50
Federation
22:50
in
22:51
Star
22:51
Trek
22:51
is
22:51
more
22:51
like,
22:52
we're
22:52
all
22:52
going
22:52
to
22:52
get
22:53
along.
22:53
Yeah,
22:53
there's
22:53
still
22:54
conflict
22:54
and
22:54
stuff
22:54
like
22:55
that,
22:55
but
22:56
it's
22:56
not
22:56
in
22:57
the
22:57
same
22:57
way.
22:57
You
22:57
don't
22:58
have
22:58
petty
22:59
species
23:00
differences
23:00
as
23:01
much
23:01
as
23:01
you
23:01
get
23:02
in
23:02
Mass
23:02
Effect
23:02
because
23:03
Mass
23:03
Effect
23:03
is
23:04
a
23:04
little
23:04
more
23:04
like,
23:04
yeah,
23:04
you
23:05
know,
23:05
we
23:05
have
23:06
evolved
23:06
past
23:06
where
23:07
we
23:07
were,
23:07
but
23:07
at
23:08
that
23:08
same
23:08
time,
23:08
we're
23:08
still
23:08
people.
23:09
We're
23:09
still,
23:10
you
23:10
know,
23:10
limited
23:11
moral
23:11
agents.
23:12
And
23:12
some
23:12
people
23:12
are
23:13
going
23:13
to
23:13
look
23:13
after
23:13
their
23:14
own
23:14
interests
23:14
other
23:15
than
23:15
yours,
23:15
and
23:15
they're
23:16
not
23:16
going
23:16
to
23:16
listen
23:16
to
23:16
evidence
23:17
that
23:17
contradicts
23:17
what
23:17
they
23:18
want
23:18
because
23:19
that
23:20
world
23:20
is
23:20
scarier
23:20
than
23:21
the
23:21
world
23:21
I
23:21
live
23:21
in.
23:21
So
23:22
I'm
23:22
going
23:22
to
23:22
choose
23:22
not
23:22
to
23:22
think
23:23
that
23:23
way.
23:24
As
23:24
you
23:24
mentioned,
23:24
with
23:25
the
23:25
Reaper
23:25
threat
23:25
and,
23:25
like,
23:26
attacking
23:26
one,
23:26
but
23:27
like,
23:27
oh,
23:27
no,
23:27
something
23:27
else.
23:28
It
23:28
was
23:28
a
23:28
rogue
23:28
agent.
23:29
There
23:29
are
23:30
no
23:30
reapers,
23:30
and
23:30
they're
23:30
going
23:31
to
23:31
downplay
23:31
anyone
23:31
who
23:31
thinks
23:32
otherwise.
23:33
So
23:33
one
23:33
thing
23:33
we
23:33
can
23:34
learn
23:34
from
23:34
that
23:34
is
23:34
that
23:35
regardless
23:36
of
23:36
whatever
23:36
system
23:37
we
23:37
make
23:37
in
23:37
this
23:37
world,
23:38
it
23:38
is
23:38
created
23:39
by
23:39
flawed
23:40
agents
23:41
who
23:41
are
23:42
sinful,
23:42
are
23:43
going
23:43
to
23:43
have
23:43
their
23:43
own
23:43
biases.
23:44
And
23:45
even
23:45
if
23:45
they're
23:45
doing
23:46
good
23:46
in
23:46
the
23:46
world
23:46
does
23:47
not
23:47
mean
23:47
that
23:47
they
23:47
themselves
23:48
are
23:48
100%
23:48
good.
23:49
Yeah,
23:49
that's
23:49
true.
23:50
Yeah.
23:50
Well,
23:51
one
23:51
of
23:51
the
23:51
things
23:51
I
23:51
really
23:51
like
23:51
about
23:52
the
23:52
Citadel,
23:53
whenever
23:53
you're
23:54
like,
23:54
traveling
23:55
about,
23:56
I
23:56
guess,
23:56
is
23:57
that
23:57
how
23:57
I'm
23:57
going
23:57
to
23:57
word
23:57
that
23:57
for
23:58
now.
23:59
They
23:59
have
23:59
a
23:59
section
24:00
that's
24:00
like
24:00
the
24:00
embassies.
24:02
And
24:03
it's
24:03
really
24:03
cool
24:03
because
24:03
you
24:04
see
24:04
where,
24:04
like,
24:04
humans
24:05
do
24:05
have
24:05
their.
24:05
Still
24:05
their
24:06
own
24:06
governing
24:06
bodies
24:07
and
24:07
stuff,
24:07
like
24:07
the
24:07
human
24:08
alliance
24:08
and
24:08
stuff.
24:08
It's
24:08
not
24:08
like
24:09
we
24:09
just
24:09
suddenly
24:09
are
24:09
now
24:10
part
24:10
of
24:10
a
24:10
different
24:11
political
24:11
system.
24:11
It's.
24:12
We
24:12
still
24:12
have
24:13
our
24:13
own
24:13
political
24:13
systems.
24:13
And
24:14
then
24:14
we
24:14
have
24:14
an
24:14
ambassador,
24:15
someone
24:15
who
24:15
is
24:15
there
24:16
on
24:16
behalf
24:17
of
24:17
humans
24:17
whose
24:17
job
24:18
is
24:18
basically
24:19
ecumenicism,
24:20
diplomacy.
24:21
You
24:21
know,
24:21
it's,
24:22
hey,
24:22
I'm
24:22
going
24:22
to
24:23
talk
24:23
to
24:23
them.
24:23
See
24:23
where
24:24
can
24:24
we
24:24
give?
24:25
Where
24:25
can
24:25
we
24:25
not
24:25
give?
24:26
Explain
24:27
what
24:27
are
24:27
human
24:27
values?
24:28
How
24:28
does
24:28
that
24:28
relate
24:29
to
24:29
the
24:29
other
24:29
values?
24:29
Where
24:30
can
24:30
we
24:30
see
24:30
I
24:30
and
24:30
I
24:31
and
24:31
work
24:31
together?
24:31
Where
24:31
can
24:31
we
24:31
not
24:32
work
24:32
together?
24:33
And
24:33
all
24:33
the
24:33
different
24:33
species
24:34
kind
24:34
of
24:34
have
24:34
the
24:34
same
24:35
thing.
24:35
And
24:35
they
24:35
have
24:36
their
24:36
own
24:36
bar,
24:37
meeting
24:37
places.
24:38
And
24:39
I
24:39
actually
24:39
do
24:39
think
24:40
that's
24:40
important.
24:40
That,
24:41
like,
24:41
as
24:41
much
24:41
as
24:42
I
24:42
love
24:42
the
24:42
idea
24:42
that
24:42
we'll
24:42
all
24:43
just
24:43
decide
24:43
we're
24:43
going
24:43
to
24:44
get
24:44
along
24:44
and
24:44
that's
24:44
it.
24:45
Sometimes
24:45
it's
24:46
important
24:46
that
24:46
the
24:46
Methodist
24:46
Church
24:47
stays.
24:47
The
24:47
Methodist
24:47
Church,
24:48
it
24:48
has
24:48
its
24:48
own
24:49
church
24:49
polity,
24:49
and
24:50
that's
24:50
a
24:50
good
24:50
thing.
24:51
And
24:51
the
24:51
Lutheran
24:51
Church
24:52
is
24:52
a
24:52
different
24:52
one,
24:52
and
24:52
it's
24:53
still
24:53
a
24:53
good
24:54
thing.
24:55
And
24:55
I
24:55
think
24:55
it's
24:55
important
24:55
that
24:56
we
24:56
have
24:56
people
24:56
who
24:56
are
24:57
dedicated
24:57
to
24:57
the
24:57
work
24:57
of
24:58
ecumenicism.
24:58
That's
24:59
saying,
24:59
okay,
25:00
here's
25:00
what
25:00
Lutherans
25:01
believe.
25:01
Here's
25:01
where
25:01
we
25:01
can
25:02
bend
25:03
to
25:03
work
25:03
with
25:03
you.
25:03
Here's
25:03
where
25:04
we
25:04
can't.
25:04
Here's
25:05
where
25:05
we
25:05
have
25:05
to
25:05
stand
25:06
our
25:06
ground
25:06
on
25:06
what
25:06
we
25:06
believe.
25:07
And
25:07
here's
25:07
where
25:08
maybe
25:08
we
25:08
have
25:08
some
25:09
stuff
25:09
in
25:09
common.
25:09
Here's
25:09
what
25:09
we
25:10
can
25:10
do
25:10
in
25:10
the
25:10
community
25:10
together.
25:11
And
25:11
here's
25:11
where
25:12
if
25:12
you're
25:12
going
25:12
to
25:13
be
25:13
saying
25:13
those
25:13
kind
25:13
of
25:13
things,
25:14
I
25:14
don't
25:14
want
25:14
to
25:14
be
25:14
a
25:14
part
25:14
of
25:14
it.
25:15
And
25:15
I
25:15
think
25:16
having
25:16
that
25:16
kind
25:16
of
25:18
just
25:18
having
25:18
people
25:19
dedicated
25:19
to
25:19
the
25:19
work,
25:19
I
25:20
think
25:20
actually
25:20
is
25:20
important.
25:21
And
25:21
I
25:21
think
25:21
you
25:21
see
25:22
that
25:22
in
25:22
the
25:22
embassies
25:22
in
25:22
the
25:22
Citadel
25:23
in
25:23
a
25:24
really
25:24
cool
25:24
way.
25:25
Yeah.
25:25
It's
25:25
also
25:26
really
25:26
nice,
25:26
too,
25:26
there.
25:27
Sorry,
25:27
dj,
25:28
in
25:29
that
25:30
the
25:30
Diplomats
25:30
explain
25:31
themselves
25:31
when
25:32
you
25:32
ask
25:32
questions.
25:33
Yeah.
25:34
About
25:34
who
25:35
they
25:35
are,
25:35
what
25:35
they're
25:35
about.
25:36
You
25:36
know,
25:36
you
25:36
need
25:37
people
25:37
working
25:37
as
25:38
emissaries
25:38
in
25:38
between
25:39
these
25:39
different
25:39
groups
25:40
to
25:40
know,
25:40
okay,
25:40
this
25:40
is
25:41
what
25:41
we're
25:41
about.
25:41
This
25:42
is
25:42
why
25:42
we're
25:42
different
25:42
than
25:43
you.
25:43
That
25:43
doesn't
25:43
mean
25:43
I
25:43
think
25:44
you're
25:44
inferior,
25:44
but,
25:45
like,
25:45
here's
25:46
why
25:46
we
25:46
do
25:46
what
25:47
we
25:47
do.
25:48
Yeah.
25:48
It
25:48
is
25:49
also
25:49
nice
25:49
to
25:49
just
25:49
see,
25:50
like,
25:50
a
25:50
fictional
25:51
representation
25:51
of
25:52
humanity
25:52
as
25:52
a
25:52
united
25:53
front,
25:54
at
25:54
least
25:54
generally
25:55
speaking.
25:55
There
25:55
is
25:56
some
25:56
division,
25:56
of
25:57
course.
25:57
Especially
25:58
Mass
25:58
Effect
25:58
1,
25:59
if
25:59
you're
25:59
listening.
25:59
I
26:00
despise
26:00
Ashley
26:00
Rounds
26:01
if
26:01
you're
26:01
listening.
26:02
Yeah,
26:02
we
26:02
actually
26:02
will,
26:03
of
26:04
course.
26:04
But
26:05
if
26:05
you
26:06
just
26:06
listen
26:06
to
26:06
the
26:06
chat
26:06
around
26:07
the
26:07
human
26:07
sections
26:07
of
26:08
Presidium,
26:08
you
26:09
can
26:09
hear
26:09
people,
26:09
like,
26:09
don't
26:10
agree
26:10
with
26:10
some
26:10
of
26:10
the
26:10
policy
26:11
enforcements
26:13
that
26:13
happen
26:15
to
26:15
humans.
26:15
But
26:16
it's
26:17
cool.
26:17
It's
26:17
a
26:17
living,
26:17
breathing
26:18
world
26:18
and
26:18
it's
26:18
really
26:19
awesome.
26:20
Oh,
26:20
yeah.
26:21
Well,
26:21
even
26:21
some
26:22
of
26:22
the.
26:22
The
26:22
flaws
26:22
of
26:23
the
26:23
Citadel,
26:23
I'll
26:23
say,
26:24
like,
26:24
where
26:24
they're
26:25
like,
26:25
oh,
26:25
humans
26:25
are
26:25
new.
26:26
We
26:26
don't
26:26
know
26:26
if
26:26
we
26:26
could
26:26
trust
26:27
them
26:27
all.
26:27
Whatever.
26:28
Like,
26:28
I
26:28
don't
26:29
think
26:29
there's
26:29
stuff
26:29
we
26:29
can
26:29
learn
26:29
from
26:30
that
26:30
too.
26:30
Like,
26:30
again,
26:31
having
26:31
grown
26:31
up
26:31
Pentecostal,
26:32
TJ
26:33
knows
26:33
I
26:33
probably
26:34
know
26:34
what
26:34
I'm
26:34
talking
26:34
about.
26:34
When
26:35
you
26:35
get
26:35
to
26:35
more
26:35
intellectual
26:36
circles,
26:37
pretty
26:37
commonly
26:38
it's,
26:38
oh,
26:39
Pentecostals,
26:40
you
26:40
know,
26:41
And
26:41
a
26:41
lot
26:41
of
26:41
it's
26:41
because
26:41
it's
26:42
newer.
26:43
Some
26:43
of
26:43
it's
26:43
because
26:43
they
26:44
don't
26:44
understand
26:44
some
26:45
of
26:45
the
26:45
traditions
26:45
or
26:45
they've
26:46
heard
26:46
complete
26:47
misconceptions.
26:48
Good
26:49
friend
26:49
of
26:49
the
26:49
show,
26:50
been
26:50
on
26:50
before.
26:51
We've
26:51
talked
26:51
about
26:51
it.
26:52
We're
26:52
cool.
26:52
This
26:53
is
26:53
not
26:53
a
26:53
negative
26:53
thing,
26:54
but
26:54
I
26:54
remember
26:55
when
26:55
I
26:55
first
26:55
met
26:55
Dr.
26:56
Peter
26:56
Beck
26:57
in
26:57
class
26:57
was
26:58
making
26:58
jokes
26:58
about
26:58
Pentecostals,
26:59
and
26:59
it
26:59
wasn't
26:59
until
27:00
years
27:00
later,
27:00
because
27:00
I
27:00
was
27:01
afraid
27:01
to
27:01
tell
27:01
him
27:01
that
27:01
I
27:01
was
27:01
Pentecostal,
27:02
that
27:02
he
27:02
was
27:02
like,
27:03
oh,
27:03
just
27:03
joking.
27:04
You
27:04
didn't.
27:04
I
27:04
was
27:04
like,
27:05
I
27:05
didn't
27:05
take
27:05
it
27:05
to
27:05
heart,
27:05
but
27:06
I
27:06
was
27:06
just
27:06
afraid
27:06
you
27:06
were
27:06
gonna
27:06
think
27:07
I
27:07
was
27:07
dumb
27:09
as
27:09
a
27:10
thing.
27:10
Yeah,
27:11
Yeah.
27:11
I
27:12
don't.
27:12
I
27:12
don't
27:12
suffer
27:13
from.
27:13
From
27:13
that.
27:14
Usually
27:15
when
27:15
people
27:15
meet
27:15
me,
27:15
they're
27:16
like,
27:16
oh,
27:16
this
27:16
is
27:16
the
27:16
smartest
27:16
person
27:17
alive.
27:17
Oh,
27:17
my
27:17
goodness.
27:18
It's
27:18
because
27:18
he
27:19
wears
27:19
glasses.
27:20
Yeah,
27:22
yeah.
27:22
Wear
27:22
smart
27:23
kind
27:23
of
27:23
glasses,
27:24
and
27:25
you
27:25
talk
27:25
smart
27:26
and
27:26
you're
27:26
postured
27:27
like,
27:27
you're
27:27
confident,
27:28
but
27:28
you're
27:28
not
27:29
tall.
27:29
So
27:29
people
27:29
assume
27:30
that
27:30
the
27:30
confidence
27:31
is
27:31
because
27:31
you're
27:31
just
27:31
that
27:31
much
27:32
smarter
27:32
than
27:32
them.
27:33
Yeah,
27:33
that's
27:33
it.
27:34
That's
27:34
how
27:34
you
27:35
avoid
27:36
Pentecostal
27:38
backlash
27:38
discrimination.
27:40
Yeah.
27:40
They
27:41
should
27:41
have
27:41
tried
27:41
that
27:41
at
27:41
the
27:41
Citadel.
27:42
Humans
27:42
just
27:43
be
27:43
more
27:43
confident.
27:43
Yeah,
27:44
yeah.
27:44
Shorter
27:45
and
27:45
more
27:45
confident.
27:46
Yeah.
27:48
Okay.
27:48
I
27:48
do
27:48
want
27:49
to
27:49
move
27:49
on
27:49
some
27:49
other
27:49
things.
27:49
One
27:49
of
27:49
the
27:50
other
27:50
things
27:50
that
27:50
you
27:51
learn
27:51
in
27:51
the
27:51
Citadel
27:52
and
27:52
around
27:53
is
27:53
about
27:54
the
27:54
Krogans,
27:56
who
27:56
also
27:57
were
27:57
the
27:58
coolest.
27:58
Rex
27:59
was
27:59
my
27:59
favorite
28:00
teammate.
28:01
I
28:01
am
28:01
still
28:01
angry.
28:03
Yeah.
28:03
Rex
28:04
is
28:04
the
28:04
best.
28:05
That
28:05
much
28:05
is
28:06
true.
28:06
He's
28:07
awesome.
28:07
Maybe
28:08
second.
28:10
And
28:10
you
28:10
guys
28:10
might
28:11
have
28:11
to
28:11
correct
28:11
me
28:11
a
28:11
little
28:11
bit
28:11
here,
28:11
because
28:12
you
28:12
know
28:12
how
28:12
I
28:12
am
28:12
with
28:12
memory
28:13
and
28:14
just
28:14
anything
28:15
that
28:15
involves
28:15
thinking.
28:17
But
28:18
Gorgons
28:19
were
28:19
more
28:19
or
28:19
less
28:19
genetically
28:21
spliced,
28:21
put
28:21
together
28:22
to
28:22
be
28:22
awesome
28:23
warriors
28:23
for
28:24
a
28:24
fight
28:24
thing.
28:24
No,
28:27
this
28:27
is
28:27
their
28:28
biology.
28:28
They
28:28
were
28:29
uplifted
28:30
by
28:30
the
28:30
Salarians.
28:31
Uplifted
28:32
being
28:32
the
28:32
term
28:32
of,
28:32
like,
28:33
they
28:33
were
28:33
basically
28:33
pre
28:34
war,
28:34
pure
28:34
Star
28:34
Trek
28:35
people,
28:35
and
28:36
then
28:36
brought
28:36
up
28:37
because
28:37
they
28:37
needed
28:38
them
28:38
to
28:38
fight
28:38
a
28:38
war
28:39
against
28:39
the
28:40
Rachni,
28:40
which
28:40
is
28:41
this
28:41
insectoid
28:42
race
28:42
that,
28:43
you
28:43
know,
28:43
would
28:43
keep
28:44
attacking
28:44
the
28:44
members
28:45
of
28:45
the
28:45
Citadel.
28:47
And
28:47
the
28:47
problem
28:47
was
28:48
Though
28:48
when
28:48
they
28:48
did
28:48
that,
28:49
they
28:49
didn't
28:49
think
28:49
about
28:49
the
28:49
repercussions
28:50
because
28:50
salarians
28:50
rarely
28:51
do
28:51
because
28:51
they
28:51
don't
28:51
live
28:51
that
28:52
long
28:53
of
28:54
oh
28:54
no,
28:54
we
28:54
brought
28:54
them
28:55
on
28:55
a
28:55
galactic
28:55
stage.
28:55
And
28:56
Krogans
28:56
are
28:56
what
28:56
are
28:57
known
28:57
as
28:57
explosive
28:58
breeders.
28:59
Think
28:59
your
28:59
rabbits
28:59
on
29:00
crack.
29:01
They
29:01
just
29:02
keep
29:02
going
29:02
and
29:02
keep
29:03
having
29:03
more
29:03
kids.
29:04
And
29:04
so
29:04
you
29:04
have
29:04
this
29:05
incredibly
29:05
tough
29:06
race
29:06
of
29:07
people
29:07
who
29:07
live
29:07
in
29:08
a
29:08
very
29:08
warrior
29:08
almost
29:09
in
29:09
fact
29:10
in
29:10
some
29:10
respects
29:10
a
29:11
Klingon
29:11
esque
29:11
culture.
29:12
Yeah,
29:12
it's
29:12
a
29:13
warrior
29:13
cast
29:13
who
29:13
loves
29:14
fighting.
29:14
Yeah.
29:15
And
29:16
well
29:16
now
29:17
there's
29:17
no
29:17
enemy
29:17
for
29:18
them
29:18
to
29:18
fight,
29:18
so
29:18
they're
29:18
going
29:19
to
29:19
fight
29:19
against
29:19
other
29:19
people.
29:20
So
29:20
they
29:20
had
29:21
to
29:21
come
29:21
to
29:21
the
29:21
point
29:21
where
29:22
the
29:22
Solarians.
29:22
Oh,
29:22
we
29:23
made
29:23
the
29:23
problem,
29:23
let's
29:23
solve
29:23
the
29:23
problem
29:24
by
29:24
creating
29:24
a
29:24
problem.
29:25
And
29:25
that
29:25
of
29:25
course
29:26
being
29:26
the
29:26
Genophage
29:27
where
29:28
they
29:28
have
29:29
reintroduced
29:30
that
29:31
genetic
29:31
tampering
29:32
into
29:32
the
29:32
Krogans
29:33
to
29:33
where
29:34
through
29:34
this
29:34
virus,
29:35
they
29:35
don't.
29:37
They
29:37
still
29:37
breed
29:37
as
29:37
much
29:37
as
29:38
they
29:38
do.
29:38
But
29:38
there's
29:38
far
29:38
fewer
29:39
survivors
29:39
of
29:40
pregnancy,
29:40
as
29:41
it
29:41
were.
29:41
So
29:41
the
29:41
race
29:42
is
29:42
severely
29:42
reduced
29:42
as
29:43
a
29:43
result.
29:43
And
29:43
the
29:43
fact
29:43
that
29:44
they're
29:44
always
29:44
infighting
29:45
with
29:45
each
29:45
other
29:45
because
29:45
they
29:45
always
29:45
have
29:46
something
29:46
to
29:46
prove,
29:47
it
29:47
also
29:47
makes
29:49
the
29:50
birth
29:50
rate
29:50
of
29:50
female
29:51
Krogan's
29:52
went
29:52
down.
29:53
Yes,
29:56
by
29:56
a
29:56
thousand
29:57
times.
29:58
I
29:59
think
29:59
it
29:59
was
29:59
like
29:59
what
29:59
was
29:59
the
30:00
number
30:00
from
30:00
the
30:00
game?
30:00
One
30:00
in
30:01
every.
30:02
One
30:02
in
30:02
every
30:02
10,000,
30:03
maybe
30:04
more.
30:04
Something
30:04
like
30:04
that.
30:05
Krogan's
30:06
is
30:06
born
30:06
female.
30:07
It's
30:07
a
30:07
lot
30:08
Nasty,
30:09
nasty
30:09
work.
30:09
Yeah,
30:10
yeah.
30:11
So
30:13
what
30:13
I
30:13
want
30:13
to
30:13
get
30:13
to
30:13
with
30:14
this
30:14
though
30:14
is
30:16
the.
30:17
When
30:17
you're
30:17
at
30:17
the
30:18
Citadel
30:18
and
30:19
you're
30:19
discussing
30:19
with
30:20
Krogan's,
30:20
because
30:20
of
30:20
all
30:20
the
30:20
things
30:21
that
30:21
Christian
30:21
said,
30:22
you
30:22
have
30:22
a
30:22
lot
30:23
of
30:23
interesting
30:24
politics
30:24
stuff
30:25
kind
30:25
of
30:25
behind
30:25
the
30:25
scene
30:25
and
30:26
in
30:26
the
30:26
forefront
30:27
if
30:27
you're
30:27
paying
30:27
attention,
30:28
it
30:28
turns
30:28
out.
30:29
But
30:30
the
30:31
whole
30:31
problem
30:32
of
30:32
how
30:33
the
30:33
problem
30:34
was
30:34
created
30:35
by
30:35
one
30:35
race.
30:36
So
30:36
you
30:36
kind
30:36
of
30:36
have
30:36
like
30:36
a
30:37
systemic
30:37
sin
30:37
situation
30:38
of
30:38
like,
30:38
well,
30:39
what
30:39
do
30:39
you
30:39
do
30:39
with
30:39
the
30:39
sins
30:39
of
30:40
your
30:40
forefathers?
30:40
Or
30:41
your
30:42
politics
30:42
created
30:43
this
30:43
issue
30:44
and
30:44
then
30:44
solved
30:45
it
30:45
with
30:46
very
30:46
slow
30:47
form
30:47
of
30:47
genocide
30:48
for
30:48
some
30:48
reason.
30:49
And
30:50
it's
30:50
like
30:50
that
30:51
solution
30:51
also
30:52
is
30:52
just
30:52
layering
30:53
on
30:53
more
30:53
and
30:53
more
30:53
problems.
30:54
You
30:54
have
30:54
one
30:55
group
30:55
that
30:56
has
30:56
done
30:56
all
30:56
these
30:57
wrongs
30:57
in
30:57
their
30:57
past
30:57
and
30:58
it's
30:58
like,
30:58
well,
30:58
even
30:58
if
30:59
you
30:59
didn't
30:59
directly
30:59
do
30:59
it
31:00
still
31:00
seems
31:00
like
31:00
you
31:01
have
31:01
some
31:01
responsibility
31:02
for
31:02
what
31:02
happened
31:03
here.
31:04
And
31:04
then
31:05
the
31:05
people
31:05
themselves,
31:06
how
31:07
do
31:07
they
31:07
participate
31:08
in
31:08
a
31:08
galactic
31:09
political
31:09
system
31:11
when
31:11
you've
31:11
been
31:11
just
31:12
done
31:12
so
31:12
wrong
31:13
by
31:13
all,
31:13
by
31:14
the
31:14
other
31:14
species?
31:14
And
31:15
there's
31:16
a
31:16
lot
31:16
of
31:16
weight
31:16
that
31:16
comes
31:17
with
31:17
that.
31:17
And
31:18
I
31:18
don't
31:18
know,
31:18
it's
31:19
really
31:19
messy
31:20
all
31:20
throughout
31:21
the
31:21
game.
31:22
And
31:22
I
31:22
think
31:22
a
31:23
lot
31:23
of
31:23
stuff
31:23
similar
31:24
to
31:24
that
31:24
happens
31:25
in
31:25
real
31:25
life,
31:26
even
31:26
with
31:27
the
31:27
church.
31:27
You
31:27
know,
31:27
the
31:28
church
31:28
did
31:28
not
31:28
play
31:29
a
31:29
great
31:29
role
31:29
in
31:29
slavery
31:30
in
31:30
America.
31:30
It
31:31
doesn't
31:31
play
31:31
a
31:31
great
31:31
role
31:32
in
31:32
a
31:32
lot
31:32
of
31:32
the
31:33
holy
31:33
wars,
31:34
etc.
31:34
The
31:34
Church
31:35
has
31:35
done
31:35
a
31:35
lot
31:35
of
31:35
great
31:35
things
31:36
also.
31:36
But
31:36
we
31:36
do
31:36
have
31:36
to
31:37
address,
31:37
like,
31:38
there's
31:38
problems
31:39
that
31:39
the
31:39
church
31:39
has
31:39
created
31:40
in
31:40
the
31:40
past.
31:41
In
31:41
some
31:42
degree,
31:43
I
31:43
think
31:43
we
31:43
do
31:43
have
31:44
responsibility
31:44
for
31:45
answering
31:45
for
31:46
those
31:46
things
31:46
in
31:46
a
31:46
responsible
31:47
way.
31:47
Not
31:47
in
31:47
a
31:48
oh,
31:48
I
31:48
did
31:48
something
31:49
wrong
31:49
and
31:49
I
31:49
need
31:49
to
31:49
feel
31:50
bad
31:50
for
31:50
it
31:50
kind
31:50
of
31:50
way,
31:51
but
31:52
to
31:52
take
31:52
responsibility
31:52
for
31:53
the
31:53
past.
31:55
Yeah,
31:56
with
31:57
something
31:57
like
31:57
that,
31:57
I
31:57
mean,
31:58
you
31:58
mentioned
31:59
slavery.
31:59
Well,
32:00
the
32:00
vast
32:00
majority
32:01
of
32:01
abolitionists,
32:02
the
32:02
reason
32:02
why
32:03
they
32:03
were
32:03
abolitionists
32:04
is
32:04
because
32:04
they
32:04
were
32:04
Christian.
32:05
They
32:06
realized
32:06
it
32:07
was
32:07
an
32:07
issue
32:08
in
32:08
the
32:08
system
32:09
that
32:09
needed
32:10
to
32:10
be
32:10
addressed.
32:11
So
32:11
rather
32:11
than
32:11
working
32:12
on
32:12
some
32:12
human
32:13
philosophy
32:13
nonsense,
32:14
they
32:14
said,
32:14
no,
32:14
this
32:15
is
32:15
what
32:15
God
32:15
actually
32:15
says.
32:16
We're
32:16
not
32:16
going
32:17
to
32:17
use
32:17
the
32:17
scriptures
32:17
for
32:17
our
32:18
own
32:18
purposes.
32:18
We're
32:18
going
32:18
to
32:18
use
32:18
it
32:19
for
32:19
his
32:19
purposes
32:19
and
32:20
get
32:20
rid
32:20
of
32:20
the
32:20
issue
32:21
and
32:21
by
32:21
fighting
32:21
slavery
32:22
as
32:22
much
32:22
as
32:22
we
32:22
can.
32:22
And
32:23
that's
32:23
what
32:23
you
32:23
do
32:23
in
32:23
situations
32:24
like
32:24
this.
32:25
You
32:25
identify
32:25
the
32:26
issue.
32:26
You
32:26
identify,
32:27
okay,
32:28
if
32:28
God
32:28
would
32:29
be
32:29
here
32:29
right
32:29
now,
32:29
how
32:30
would
32:30
he
32:30
want
32:30
us
32:30
to
32:30
handle
32:30
it?
32:31
Then
32:32
we
32:32
then
32:32
go
32:32
to
32:33
the
32:33
people
32:33
who
32:33
need
32:33
to
32:33
be
32:33
educated,
32:34
educate
32:35
them
32:35
as
32:35
best
32:35
as
32:35
possible.
32:35
If
32:36
they
32:36
don't
32:36
listen,
32:37
then
32:37
they
32:37
don't
32:37
get
32:38
to
32:38
be
32:38
part
32:38
of
32:38
the
32:38
fold.
32:39
This
32:40
is
32:40
why
32:40
excommunication
32:41
is
32:41
a
32:41
useful
32:42
thing.
32:42
It's
32:43
not
32:43
just
32:43
there
32:43
to
32:43
be
32:43
harsh
32:44
or
32:44
because
32:44
I
32:45
don't
32:45
like
32:45
that
32:45
person.
32:45
It's
32:46
because
32:47
it
32:47
is
32:48
cancerous
32:48
for
32:49
you
32:49
to
32:49
be
32:49
around
32:49
us.
32:50
So
32:50
we
32:50
cannot
32:51
abide
32:51
by
32:51
that.
32:52
Now,
32:53
when
32:53
it
32:53
comes
32:53
to
32:54
the
32:54
Krogans,
32:55
some
32:55
of
32:56
it
32:56
they
32:56
brought
32:56
on
32:56
themselves.
32:57
That
32:57
doesn't
32:57
justify
32:58
the
32:58
use
32:58
of
32:58
a
32:58
genophage
32:59
or
33:00
anything
33:00
like
33:00
that.
33:01
But
33:02
when
33:02
you
33:02
act
33:02
the
33:03
way
33:03
you
33:03
do,
33:03
when
33:03
you
33:04
start
33:04
massacring
33:05
people
33:05
because
33:06
you
33:06
have
33:06
to
33:06
prove
33:06
yourself
33:07
and
33:07
that's
33:07
your
33:07
culture,
33:08
well,
33:08
something
33:08
about
33:09
that
33:09
culture
33:09
has
33:09
got
33:09
to
33:09
give.
33:10
That
33:10
doesn't
33:11
mean
33:11
you
33:11
can't
33:11
be
33:11
a
33:11
warrior
33:12
race.
33:12
It
33:12
means
33:12
you
33:12
have
33:13
to
33:13
figure
33:13
out
33:13
a
33:13
new
33:13
way
33:13
to
33:14
do
33:14
it.
33:14
And
33:14
that's
33:14
one
33:14
of
33:14
the
33:14
things
33:14
of
33:15
Rex's
33:15
story
33:16
is
33:16
Tim
33:17
noting,
33:17
like,
33:17
yeah,
33:18
we're
33:18
doomed
33:19
because
33:19
we
33:19
can't
33:19
even
33:20
agree
33:20
on
33:21
how
33:21
to
33:21
change
33:21
things.
33:22
So
33:22
when
33:22
he
33:22
eventually
33:22
becomes
33:23
leader
33:23
of
33:23
Tuchanka,
33:24
that's
33:25
a
33:25
huge
33:25
Part
33:25
of
33:25
it.
33:25
It's
33:25
like,
33:26
I'm
33:26
going
33:26
to
33:27
let
33:27
their
33:27
natural
33:27
instincts
33:28
stand.
33:28
We
33:28
are
33:29
warrior
33:29
race.
33:29
We
33:29
are
33:30
warrior
33:30
people.
33:30
But
33:31
what
33:31
if
33:31
we
33:31
fought
33:31
these
33:32
people
33:32
instead,
33:33
or
33:33
we
33:33
fought
33:33
in
33:33
this
33:34
way,
33:34
or
33:34
acted
33:34
as
33:35
protectors?
33:36
And
33:36
that's
33:37
a
33:37
huge
33:38
thing
33:38
to
33:38
happen
33:38
in
33:39
Krogan
33:39
society,
33:40
because
33:40
if
33:40
you
33:40
kill
33:41
him
33:41
off
33:41
and
33:41
you
33:41
get
33:41
his
33:42
brother
33:42
instead,
33:43
you
33:43
get
33:43
the
33:43
exact
33:43
opposite
33:44
of
33:44
response
33:44
of,
33:44
we're
33:45
just
33:45
going
33:45
to
33:45
keep
33:45
things
33:45
like
33:45
they
33:45
are.
33:46
Because
33:46
I
33:46
like
33:46
things
33:46
how
33:47
they
33:47
are.
33:47
Yeah,
33:48
yeah.
33:48
So
33:49
the
33:49
real
33:49
question
33:49
here
33:49
is
33:52
Solarian.
33:53
Is
33:53
that.
33:53
Is
33:54
it
33:54
Solarian?
33:54
Solarian.
33:55
That
33:55
sounds
33:56
right.
33:56
Yeah.
33:56
S
33:56
A
33:56
L
33:56
A
33:57
Right.
33:58
Is
33:58
that
33:58
why
33:58
I
33:58
never
33:59
knew.
34:00
Yeah.
34:01
There's
34:01
a
34:02
Starfinder
34:02
class
34:03
that's
34:03
close
34:03
to
34:03
that.
34:04
Anyway,
34:05
who's
34:06
paying
34:06
for
34:06
their
34:06
crimes?
34:08
Yeah.
34:09
Yeah.
34:10
Why
34:10
are
34:11
the
34:11
Solarians
34:12
suffering?
34:13
Indeed.
34:16
And
34:16
even
34:17
I'm
34:18
gonna
34:18
double
34:18
down
34:18
on
34:18
that.
34:19
Double
34:19
down
34:20
on
34:20
that
34:20
issue,
34:21
bringing
34:21
it
34:21
back
34:21
to
34:21
real
34:22
world.
34:23
Even,
34:23
like,
34:24
how
34:24
do
34:24
you
34:25
decide
34:25
to
34:25
be
34:25
in
34:26
communion
34:26
with
34:26
other
34:27
churches?
34:27
So,
34:28
like.
34:28
Yeah,
34:29
we're
34:29
mixing
34:29
metaphors.
34:30
I'm
34:30
sorry,
34:30
guys.
34:31
It's
34:31
fine.
34:32
But
34:32
even
34:33
what
34:33
Christian's
34:34
talking
34:34
about,
34:35
excommunication
34:36
in
34:36
some
34:36
instances,
34:37
I
34:37
think
34:38
that
34:38
should
34:38
be
34:38
very
34:38
slow,
34:39
too.
34:39
And
34:39
I
34:39
think
34:39
we
34:39
need
34:39
to
34:39
draw
34:40
a
34:40
distinction
34:40
between
34:41
excommunication,
34:41
as
34:41
in
34:42
we
34:42
can't
34:42
call
34:42
you
34:42
part
34:42
of
34:43
the
34:43
church,
34:43
and
34:43
excommunication,
34:43
as
34:44
in
34:45
do
34:46
we
34:46
still
34:46
love
34:46
this
34:46
person
34:46
and
34:47
want
34:47
to
34:47
be
34:47
around
34:47
them?
34:47
And
34:47
can
34:48
people
34:48
hang
34:48
out
34:48
with
34:48
them
34:49
like
34:49
that,
34:50
saying
34:50
they're
34:50
not
34:50
a
34:50
part
34:50
of
34:50
the
34:51
church?
34:51
I'm
34:51
down
34:52
with
34:52
saying
34:52
that
34:52
people
34:53
can't
34:53
be
34:53
around
34:54
this
34:54
person.
34:54
I'm
34:54
like,
34:55
that
34:55
seems
34:55
unloving.
34:55
And
34:56
that's
34:56
where
34:56
I'm
34:56
like,
34:56
yeah,
34:57
there's
34:57
got
34:57
to
34:57
be.
34:58
I
34:58
don't
34:58
know
34:58
how
34:59
to
34:59
handle
34:59
stuff,
34:59
but
35:00
Sidebar.
35:02
Lots
35:03
of
35:03
churches,
35:03
unfortunately,
35:04
have
35:04
had
35:04
problems
35:04
with
35:05
sexual
35:05
abuse,
35:06
sexual
35:06
assault,
35:06
etc.
35:07
Especially
35:07
from
35:08
people
35:08
in
35:08
the
35:08
pastorate
35:08
office.
35:10
The
35:10
Catholic
35:10
Church
35:10
has
35:11
chosen
35:11
to
35:11
deal
35:11
with
35:11
that
35:11
in
35:12
one
35:12
way.
35:12
By
35:12
having
35:12
priests
35:13
who
35:13
aren't
35:13
allowed
35:13
to
35:14
marry,
35:14
etc.
35:15
Different
35:15
polities
35:16
since
35:16
then.
35:17
They've
35:18
had
35:18
a
35:18
very
35:18
long
35:18
history
35:19
with
35:19
it.
35:19
Way
35:20
longer
35:20
than
35:20
most
35:20
people
35:20
seem
35:21
to
35:21
know.
35:21
But
35:21
anyway,
35:23
Baptist
35:23
church
35:23
has
35:24
also
35:24
had
35:24
a
35:24
lot
35:24
of
35:24
stuff
35:25
come
35:25
out
35:25
recently.
35:26
It's
35:26
come
35:26
out
35:27
in
35:27
a
35:27
lot
35:27
of
35:27
different
35:27
places,
35:28
and
35:29
different
35:29
churches
35:29
have
35:29
different
35:29
ways
35:30
of
35:30
handling
35:30
it.
35:30
I
35:31
love
35:31
how
35:31
the
35:31
Lutheran
35:32
churches
35:32
hold
35:32
people
35:32
accountable.
35:33
How
35:33
we're
35:33
going
35:33
to
35:34
have
35:34
this,
35:34
like,
35:34
ethic
35:35
test.
35:35
We're
35:35
going
35:35
to
35:35
test.
35:36
Make
35:36
someone
35:37
go
35:37
through
35:37
a
35:37
psychology.
35:38
Psychological
35:39
test.
35:40
Yeah,
35:41
yeah.
35:42
We
35:42
have
35:42
these
35:42
things.
35:42
We
35:43
have
35:43
people
35:43
you're
35:43
held
35:43
accountable
35:44
to.
35:44
Like,
35:44
there's
35:45
A
35:45
certain
35:45
system
35:46
that
35:46
the
35:46
Lutheran
35:46
Church,
35:47
ELCA
35:47
does
35:48
to
35:48
make
35:49
sure
35:49
the
35:49
pastors
35:50
are
35:50
people
35:50
of
35:50
certain
35:51
standing
35:51
who
35:51
aren't
35:51
going
35:52
to
35:52
be
35:52
doing
35:52
these
35:52
things,
35:52
etc.
35:53
And
35:53
I'm
35:54
sure
35:54
some
35:54
stuff
35:54
still
35:54
falls
35:55
through
35:55
the
35:55
cracks
35:55
because
35:55
there's
35:56
just
35:56
no
35:56
such
35:56
thing
35:56
as
35:57
a
35:57
perfect
35:57
system.
35:57
Right.
35:58
Because
35:58
I
35:59
like
35:59
that
35:59
system.
35:59
That
36:00
does
36:00
not
36:00
mean
36:00
I
36:00
get
36:00
to
36:01
say
36:01
every
36:01
church
36:01
has
36:01
to
36:02
have
36:02
that
36:02
system.
36:02
And
36:02
I
36:02
won't
36:03
communicate
36:03
with
36:03
the
36:03
Methodist
36:03
until
36:04
they
36:04
have
36:04
the
36:04
same
36:04
system
36:04
as
36:05
usual.
36:06
No.
36:06
But
36:07
I
36:07
do
36:07
have
36:07
to
36:08
consider
36:08
if
36:08
I'm
36:08
going
36:08
to
36:09
be
36:09
in
36:09
communion
36:09
with
36:09
people
36:10
Christian.
36:11
I'm
36:11
sorry.
36:11
Especially
36:12
people
36:12
who
36:12
are,
36:12
like,
36:12
Southern
36:13
Baptist
36:13
right
36:13
now,
36:14
how
36:14
much
36:15
communion
36:15
am
36:15
I
36:15
willing
36:15
to
36:15
have?
36:16
Because
36:16
I
36:16
am
36:16
not
36:16
okay
36:17
so
36:17
far
36:17
with
36:17
how
36:17
they've
36:18
handled
36:19
that
36:19
and
36:19
what
36:19
systems
36:20
they've
36:20
put
36:20
in
36:20
place.
36:20
I
36:21
think
36:21
they
36:21
still
36:21
have
36:21
more
36:22
to
36:22
do.
36:23
I
36:23
think
36:23
they're
36:23
working
36:23
on
36:24
it,
36:24
though.
36:24
So,
36:25
like,
36:25
I
36:25
need
36:25
to
36:25
show
36:25
grace.
36:26
I
36:26
don't
36:26
want
36:26
to
36:26
be
36:27
a
36:27
part
36:27
of
36:27
that
36:27
system.
36:28
I'm
36:28
still
36:28
okay
36:29
working
36:29
with
36:29
them,
36:29
but
36:29
then
36:29
there's
36:30
a
36:30
level
36:30
of,
36:31
if
36:31
they
36:32
did
36:32
absolutely
36:32
nothing,
36:33
I
36:34
don't
36:34
think
36:34
I'd
36:34
want
36:34
my
36:34
church
36:35
working
36:35
with
36:35
their
36:35
church
36:35
because
36:36
they
36:36
don't
36:36
seem
36:36
to
36:36
be
36:36
taking
36:37
accountability.
36:38
And
36:38
that's
36:39
where
36:39
politics
36:39
get
36:39
messy.
36:40
And,
36:40
yes,
36:40
church
36:41
is
36:41
also
36:41
largely
36:42
politics,
36:42
unfortunately.
36:43
And
36:43
that's
36:44
where
36:44
this
36:44
game
36:44
kind
36:44
of
36:44
helps.
36:45
You
36:45
see,
36:46
there's
36:46
a
36:46
lot
36:46
of
36:46
new
36:46
ones.
36:46
There's
36:47
a
36:47
lot
36:47
of
36:47
like,
36:47
well,
36:47
what
36:47
about
36:48
the
36:48
salarians?
36:49
Is
36:49
that
36:49
what
36:49
they're
36:49
called?
36:50
Yeah,
36:50
it's
36:51
like,
36:51
well,
36:51
what
36:51
about
36:51
that?
36:52
They
36:52
also
36:52
did
36:53
something
36:53
wrong
36:53
here.
36:53
They're
36:54
not
36:54
being
36:54
held
36:54
accountable.
36:55
Why
36:55
are
36:55
we
36:55
okay
36:55
with
36:55
them
36:56
being
36:56
in
36:56
the
36:56
Citadel?
36:57
And
36:57
it's,
36:57
like,
36:58
messy,
36:59
but
36:59
Christian's
36:59
going
37:00
to
37:00
solve
37:00
it
37:00
all
37:00
for
37:00
us
37:01
because
37:01
he
37:01
wrote
37:01
a
37:01
book,
37:03
of
37:03
course,
37:03
and
37:04
that
37:04
makes
37:04
me
37:04
qualified.
37:05
Yes,
37:05
it's
37:05
your
37:05
fault.
37:06
He
37:07
also
37:07
stayed
37:07
at
37:07
the
37:07
Holiday
37:07
Inn
37:08
Express
37:08
last
37:08
night
37:08
for
37:08
those
37:09
wondering.
37:10
Oh,
37:10
I
37:10
did.
37:11
I'm
37:11
learning
37:11
a
37:12
lot
37:12
about
37:12
myself
37:12
today.
37:13
Yeah.
37:13
Yeah.
37:13
Smart
37:14
man.
37:16
You're
37:17
talking
37:17
about
37:17
two
37:17
different
37:17
organizations
37:18
at
37:18
that
37:19
point
37:19
in
37:19
time
37:19
when
37:20
it
37:20
comes
37:20
on
37:20
the
37:20
denominational
37:21
side
37:21
of
37:21
things.
37:21
Like,
37:22
one
37:22
of
37:22
the
37:22
things
37:22
about
37:23
Southern
37:23
Baptist
37:23
churches,
37:24
historically
37:24
speaking,
37:25
is
37:25
that,
37:25
yeah,
37:25
we
37:25
are
37:25
unified
37:26
by
37:26
common
37:27
creeds
37:28
and
37:28
the
37:28
like.
37:28
Like,
37:28
if
37:29
you
37:29
don't
37:29
line
37:29
up
37:30
with
37:30
these
37:30
values
37:30
with
37:31
this
37:31
theology,
37:31
you're
37:32
out.
37:32
There
37:32
is
37:32
no
37:33
actual
37:33
organization.
37:34
Sorry,
37:34
there's
37:35
organization
37:35
in
37:35
that.
37:35
There's
37:36
a
37:36
convention
37:36
and
37:36
all
37:36
that,
37:37
but
37:37
there
37:37
is
37:37
no,
37:38
like,
37:38
oversight
37:39
as
37:39
opposed
37:40
to
37:40
your
37:41
Catholic
37:41
Church,
37:42
which
37:42
has,
37:42
you
37:42
know,
37:43
all
37:43
these
37:43
hierarchies
37:43
and
37:44
the
37:44
like.
37:44
It's
37:44
like,
37:44
there's
37:45
Supposed
37:45
to
37:45
be
37:45
someone
37:45
in
37:45
charge
37:46
of
37:46
stuff
37:46
like
37:46
this,
37:46
that
37:47
that
37:47
doesn't
37:47
exist
37:48
as
37:48
much.
37:48
It's
37:48
supposed
37:48
to
37:48
be
37:49
the
37:49
church
37:49
because
37:49
there's
37:50
a
37:50
fierce
37:50
independence
37:52
inside
37:52
of
37:52
the
37:53
Southern
37:53
Baptist
37:53
Church.
37:54
So
37:54
yeah,
37:54
I
37:54
get
37:55
that
37:56
as
37:56
being
37:56
like,
37:56
okay,
37:57
you're
37:57
a
37:57
little
37:57
wary
37:57
of
37:58
it
37:58
because
37:58
no
37:58
such
37:58
system
37:59
exists.
37:59
Should
38:00
there
38:00
be
38:00
such
38:00
a
38:00
thing?
38:00
Maybe,
38:01
But
38:02
I
38:02
think
38:02
might
38:02
not
38:03
be
38:03
as
38:03
Southern
38:03
Baptist
38:04
if
38:04
you
38:04
did
38:04
that
38:04
before.
38:05
Even
38:06
though
38:06
it
38:07
is
38:07
still
38:07
a
38:07
good
38:07
idea
38:08
to
38:08
have
38:09
a
38:09
common
38:09
creed,
38:10
as
38:10
it
38:10
were.
38:10
It's
38:10
like,
38:10
no,
38:11
we
38:11
cannot
38:11
allow
38:11
such
38:11
things
38:12
to
38:12
happen.
38:12
We
38:13
have
38:13
to
38:13
make
38:13
sure
38:13
the
38:13
right
38:13
people
38:14
are
38:14
put
38:14
in
38:14
positions
38:14
of
38:15
power.
38:15
And
38:15
in
38:16
fact
38:16
this
38:16
kind
38:16
of
38:16
ties
38:16
into
38:16
one
38:17
of
38:17
my
38:17
God,
38:17
moments
38:18
later
38:18
on
38:18
of
38:18
how
38:19
this
38:19
went
38:19
poorly
38:20
in
38:20
one
38:20
of
38:20
those
38:21
areas
38:21
already
38:22
could
38:22
have
38:22
gotten
38:22
worse.
38:23
Planning
38:23
to
38:23
cheat.
38:23
Go
38:24
ahead.
38:24
Oh,
38:24
well,
38:25
that's
38:25
what
38:25
I
38:25
do.
38:27
I
38:27
mean
38:27
people
38:28
come
38:28
to
38:28
the
38:28
show
38:28
if
38:28
they
38:29
see
38:29
me
38:29
here.
38:29
Oh,
38:29
Christian's
38:30
gonna
38:30
cheat.
38:30
How
38:30
is
38:30
he
38:30
gonna
38:30
cheat
38:31
this
38:31
week?
38:32
True.
38:34
When
38:34
it
38:34
comes.
38:35
Yeah.
38:35
When
38:35
it
38:36
comes
38:36
to
38:36
the
38:36
Solarians,
38:37
the
38:37
thing
38:37
is
38:37
that
38:37
they
38:38
are
38:38
a
38:38
short
38:38
lived
38:39
race.
38:39
I
38:39
think
38:39
like
38:40
Max,
38:40
like
38:41
40
38:41
some
38:41
years.
38:42
Yeah,
38:43
yeah.
38:44
So
38:45
the
38:45
people
38:45
who
38:46
did
38:46
this
38:47
are
38:47
long
38:48
dead.
38:48
Croatians
38:49
live
38:49
far
38:50
longer.
38:51
Yes.
38:52
So
38:53
the
38:53
issue
38:54
is
38:54
when
38:55
people
38:55
who
38:55
weren't
38:55
around
38:56
then
38:56
but
38:57
still
38:57
have
38:57
the
38:58
knowledge
38:58
of
38:59
the
38:59
genophage
39:00
and
39:00
have
39:01
plans
39:01
to
39:01
use
39:01
it
39:02
again
39:03
in
39:03
certain
39:03
ways.
39:04
That's
39:04
what
39:05
needs
39:05
to
39:05
be
39:05
addressed
39:06
here.
39:06
Those
39:06
people
39:06
we
39:07
can
39:07
actually
39:07
do
39:07
something
39:08
about.
39:08
I
39:09
can't
39:09
like
39:09
unearth
39:10
the
39:10
bones
39:11
of
39:11
the
39:11
Salarians
39:11
who
39:12
came
39:12
before
39:12
this
39:12
and
39:13
you
39:13
know,
39:13
like
39:14
that
39:14
one
39:14
poor
39:14
Pope,
39:15
after
39:15
he
39:15
died,
39:16
they
39:16
had
39:16
the
39:16
whole
39:16
trial
39:17
of
39:18
what
39:18
happened
39:18
to
39:18
him.
39:18
I
39:19
can't
39:19
remember
39:19
which
39:19
one
39:19
it
39:19
was
39:20
like,
39:20
that's
39:21
not
39:21
going
39:21
to
39:21
work.
39:21
But
39:21
what
39:21
I
39:21
can
39:22
do
39:22
is
39:22
hold
39:22
them
39:23
accountable
39:23
for
39:23
what
39:24
they
39:24
currently
39:24
know
39:25
and
39:25
are
39:26
about
39:26
to
39:26
do
39:26
and
39:27
make
39:27
sure
39:27
those
39:27
things
39:28
don't
39:28
happen
39:28
again.
39:29
And
39:29
that's
39:29
why
39:30
one
39:30
of
39:30
the
39:30
greatest
39:30
characters
39:31
in
39:31
the
39:31
games
39:31
is
39:31
Morden,
39:32
who
39:32
is
39:32
a
39:32
Salarian
39:33
scientist
39:33
who
39:34
has
39:34
seen
39:34
what
39:34
has
39:35
happened
39:35
with
39:35
the
39:35
genophage,
39:36
has
39:36
done
39:36
research
39:36
on
39:36
him
39:37
himself
39:37
and
39:37
gone.
39:38
We're
39:38
in
39:38
the
39:38
wrong.
39:39
Let
39:39
me
39:39
find
39:39
a
39:40
way
39:40
to
39:40
make
39:40
this
39:40
better
39:40
and
39:41
actually
39:41
produce
39:41
a
39:41
cure.
39:43
Yeah.
39:43
And
39:43
it's
39:44
one
39:44
of
39:44
the
39:44
more
39:45
of
39:45
touching
39:46
like
39:46
side
39:47
quest.
39:47
Not.
39:47
It's
39:47
not
39:47
even
39:48
a
39:48
side
39:48
quest
39:49
in
39:49
Mass
39:50
Effect.
39:51
Just
39:51
very
39:52
like,
39:53
I'm
39:53
gonna
39:53
save
39:54
this
39:54
race
39:55
of
39:55
people
39:56
forever.
39:58
I'm
39:58
gonna
39:58
solve
39:58
this
39:59
problem.
39:59
That's
40:00
what
40:00
my
40:00
life
40:00
is
40:00
for.
40:01
And
40:01
it
40:02
is
40:02
great.
40:02
I
40:02
couldn't
40:03
remember
40:03
his
40:03
name,
40:04
but
40:05
I
40:05
don't
40:05
like
40:05
many
40:05
of
40:06
the
40:06
other
40:06
Solarians
40:07
in
40:07
the
40:07
game
40:07
because
40:07
they're
40:08
all
40:08
kind
40:08
of,
40:10
yeah,
40:11
I'm
40:11
not
40:11
a
40:11
huge
40:11
fan.
40:11
They're
40:12
not
40:12
mortals.
40:13
But
40:14
so
40:15
I
40:16
do
40:16
think
40:17
again,
40:18
so
40:18
this
40:18
goes
40:18
to
40:18
like,
40:19
I
40:19
don't
40:19
like
40:19
that
40:20
the
40:20
Southern
40:20
Baptists
40:20
don't
40:21
have
40:21
more
40:21
of
40:22
a
40:22
hierarchical
40:22
system,
40:23
more
40:23
of
40:23
a
40:23
system
40:23
of
40:24
people
40:24
to
40:24
answer
40:24
to
40:25
and
40:25
keeping
40:25
them
40:25
accountable.
40:26
But
40:26
I
40:26
understand
40:27
the
40:27
principle
40:27
of
40:28
freedom
40:28
of
40:28
independence
40:29
and
40:29
I
40:29
can
40:29
respect
40:29
that.
40:31
And
40:31
that's
40:31
where
40:31
you
40:32
have
40:32
to
40:32
navigate.
40:32
Like,
40:32
how
40:32
am
40:33
I
40:33
going
40:33
to
40:33
work
40:33
with
40:33
people
40:33
who
40:33
are
40:33
in
40:34
a
40:34
system
40:34
that
40:34
I
40:34
disagree
40:34
with
40:35
the
40:35
system?
40:35
Like,
40:35
I
40:35
don't
40:35
have
40:36
to
40:36
be
40:36
a
40:36
part
40:36
of
40:36
that
40:36
system
40:36
to
40:37
work
40:37
with
40:37
people
40:37
in
40:37
the
40:37
system.
40:39
But
40:39
I
40:39
do
40:39
need
40:39
to
40:39
be
40:39
weary
40:40
of
40:41
if
40:41
I
40:41
think
40:41
that
40:41
is
40:41
dangerous.
40:42
I'm
40:42
probably
40:42
also
40:43
not
40:43
going
40:43
to
40:43
recommend
40:43
anyone
40:44
else
40:44
going
40:44
to
40:44
them.
40:45
And
40:45
some
40:46
Southern
40:46
Baptist
40:46
leaders
40:46
will
40:47
see
40:47
that
40:47
as
40:49
not
40:49
honoring
40:49
them
40:50
or
40:50
being
40:50
disrespectful.
40:51
Because
40:51
I'm
40:51
like,
40:51
well,
40:51
I
40:51
wouldn't
40:52
tell
40:52
anybody
40:52
to
40:53
go
40:53
to
40:53
one
40:53
of
40:53
those
40:53
churches
40:53
because
40:54
I
40:54
don't
40:54
believe
40:54
in
40:54
the
40:55
system
40:55
that's
40:55
created
40:55
there.
40:56
But
40:56
it's
40:57
not
40:57
like
40:57
to
40:58
me,
40:58
I'm
40:58
not
40:58
being
40:58
disrespectful.
40:59
It's
40:59
just
40:59
that's
40:59
my
41:00
opinion.
41:00
You
41:00
know,
41:01
I
41:01
still
41:01
love
41:02
the
41:02
people
41:02
there
41:02
and
41:02
I
41:02
think
41:02
they
41:02
love
41:03
God
41:03
and
41:03
I
41:03
understand
41:03
the
41:04
principles
41:04
of
41:04
independence,
41:05
freedom,
41:05
etc.
41:07
I'll
41:07
do
41:07
the
41:07
exact
41:07
opposite
41:08
example
41:08
because
41:08
I
41:08
like
41:08
giving
41:09
positive
41:09
examples.
41:10
I
41:11
am
41:11
queer
41:11
affirming.
41:12
I
41:12
absolutely
41:13
am.
41:13
Like,
41:13
hey,
41:13
I'm
41:14
on
41:14
board.
41:15
I
41:15
think
41:15
you
41:15
can
41:15
be
41:16
married,
41:16
same
41:16
sex,
41:16
God
41:17
loves
41:17
that.
41:17
I
41:17
think
41:18
God
41:18
can
41:18
definitely
41:19
be
41:19
affirmative
41:20
of
41:20
that
41:21
Christian.
41:21
And
41:21
I
41:21
disagree.
41:22
Just
41:22
letting
41:22
people
41:23
know.
41:23
That's
41:23
not
41:23
the
41:23
point
41:24
of
41:24
this
41:24
example.
41:24
The
41:24
point
41:24
is
41:25
the
41:25
United
41:26
Methodist
41:26
Church
41:27
and
41:27
I
41:27
forget
41:27
what
41:27
the
41:27
name
41:27
of
41:28
the
41:28
ones
41:28
that
41:28
split
41:29
are.
41:30
I
41:30
apologize.
41:31
But
41:32
I
41:32
like
41:33
how
41:33
the
41:33
split
41:33
happened
41:34
because
41:35
the
41:35
Methodist
41:35
churches
41:36
who
41:36
were
41:37
not
41:37
going
41:37
to
41:37
go
41:37
along
41:38
with
41:38
being
41:38
queer
41:38
affirming,
41:40
didn't
41:40
put,
41:41
didn't
41:42
rub
41:42
the
41:42
church
41:42
through
41:43
the
41:43
mud.
41:43
They
41:43
didn't
41:44
try
41:44
to
41:44
ruin
41:44
people's
41:45
names.
41:45
They
41:45
said,
41:45
okay,
41:46
we
41:46
will
41:46
change
41:46
the
41:46
name
41:47
of
41:47
our
41:47
churches.
41:48
They
41:48
were
41:48
allowed
41:48
to
41:48
keep
41:49
their
41:49
buildings
41:49
and
41:50
said,
41:50
all
41:50
right,
41:50
we're
41:50
going
41:50
to
41:50
be
41:50
called
41:51
something
41:51
different
41:51
now
41:51
because
41:52
we
41:52
don't
41:52
see
41:52
eye
41:52
to
41:52
eye
41:53
and
41:53
we're
41:54
going
41:54
to
41:54
move
41:54
on.
41:54
And
41:55
that's
41:55
where
41:55
like,
41:55
hey,
41:56
those
41:56
people
41:56
who
41:56
are
41:56
not
41:57
queer
41:57
firming
41:58
who
41:58
went
41:58
through
41:58
this,
41:58
like,
41:59
I
41:59
like
41:59
how
41:59
they
41:59
handled
42:00
it,
42:00
how
42:00
the
42:00
policies,
42:01
the
42:01
politics
42:02
went
42:02
through.
42:02
And
42:02
that's
42:02
something
42:03
I
42:03
really
42:03
respect.
42:03
So
42:04
it's
42:04
easier
42:04
for
42:04
me
42:04
to
42:04
work
42:05
with
42:05
them.
42:05
Even
42:05
if
42:05
I
42:06
disagree,
42:06
then
42:07
maybe
42:08
some
42:08
other
42:08
Denominations
42:09
who
42:09
have
42:09
made
42:09
other
42:10
decisions.
42:11
Even,
42:11
you
42:11
know,
42:12
I
42:12
think
42:12
Mormons
42:12
are
42:13
Christian,
42:13
but
42:15
I
42:15
have
42:15
a
42:15
much
42:15
harder
42:16
time
42:16
with
42:16
some
42:16
of
42:16
their
42:16
beliefs
42:17
and
42:17
stuff.
42:17
So,
42:17
you
42:18
know,
42:18
like
42:18
there's
42:19
varying
42:20
levels
42:20
of
42:20
how
42:20
much
42:20
unity,
42:21
how
42:21
much
42:21
I'm
42:21
willing
42:22
to
42:22
work
42:22
with
42:22
or
42:23
suggest
42:23
people
42:23
go
42:24
to
42:24
different
42:24
churches
42:25
based
42:25
on
42:25
that
42:26
kind
42:26
of
42:26
thing,
42:26
you
42:26
know.
42:27
Tj,
42:27
Christian,
42:28
any
42:28
other
42:28
thoughts
42:29
before
42:29
moving
42:29
on
42:29
to
42:30
whatever's
42:31
next?
42:31
All
42:32
right,
42:32
so
42:33
come
42:33
the
42:34
third
42:34
Mass
42:35
Effect
42:35
game,
42:36
we're
42:36
still
42:36
talking
42:36
about
42:37
Mass
42:37
Effect.
42:37
If
42:37
anybody
42:38
lost
42:38
track,
42:39
I
42:39
know
42:39
it's.
42:40
It's
42:40
been
42:40
a
42:40
wild
42:40
episode.
42:42
Shepard
42:42
is
42:43
recruiting
42:43
Commander
42:44
Shepard.
42:44
He
42:44
or
42:45
she
42:45
is
42:45
recruiting
42:46
across
42:46
alien
42:46
races
42:47
to
42:47
unite
42:47
to
42:47
fight
42:48
a
42:48
common
42:48
threat
42:49
to
42:49
organic
42:49
life,
42:50
etc.
42:51
Wondering
42:52
what
42:52
do
42:52
you
42:52
guys.
42:53
We'll
42:53
start
42:53
with
42:53
Christian
42:53
since
42:53
he's
42:54
our
42:54
honor
42:54
guest.
42:55
What
42:55
do
42:55
you
42:55
think
42:56
the
42:56
mission
42:57
here?
42:57
We
42:57
won't
42:57
get
42:58
to
42:58
the
42:58
ending
42:58
if
42:58
we
42:58
don't
42:58
have
42:59
to,
42:59
but
42:59
we
42:59
can.
43:00
Tells
43:00
us
43:01
about
43:01
the
43:01
importance
43:01
of
43:01
a
43:01
common
43:02
goal,
43:02
common
43:02
enemy,
43:03
or
43:03
a
43:04
shared
43:04
sense
43:04
that
43:04
life
43:05
matters
43:05
when
43:06
it
43:06
comes
43:06
to
43:07
not
43:07
just
43:07
church
43:07
unity,
43:08
but
43:08
unity.
43:09
You
43:09
know,
43:10
one
43:11
of
43:11
the
43:11
important
43:11
things
43:11
it
43:11
teaches
43:12
us
43:12
is
43:12
just
43:12
because
43:13
that
43:13
common
43:13
thread
43:14
exists,
43:14
it
43:15
doesn't
43:15
mean
43:15
people
43:16
are
43:16
suddenly
43:16
going
43:16
to
43:17
all
43:17
drop
43:17
everything
43:17
and
43:18
say,
43:18
let's
43:18
join
43:19
together,
43:19
guys.
43:20
You
43:20
know,
43:20
even
43:21
though
43:21
it
43:21
would
43:21
be
43:22
smarter
43:22
for
43:22
me
43:22
to
43:23
do
43:23
this,
43:23
I
43:23
still
43:23
have
43:24
my
43:24
pride
43:24
or
43:25
my
43:25
race
43:25
has
43:26
this
43:26
instinct
43:26
and
43:27
therefore
43:27
I'm
43:27
not
43:27
going
43:28
to
43:28
listen
43:28
to
43:28
what
43:28
you
43:28
have
43:29
to
43:29
say.
43:30
And
43:30
that's
43:30
a
43:30
good
43:31
lesson
43:31
to
43:31
teach
43:32
because
43:33
I
43:33
mean,
43:33
if
43:33
we're
43:34
going
43:34
to
43:34
make
43:34
this
43:34
about
43:34
denominations,
43:35
look
43:35
at
43:36
every
43:36
single
43:36
one
43:36
of
43:36
them.
43:37
We
43:37
all
43:38
have
43:38
a
43:38
common
43:39
enemy
43:39
and
43:40
that
43:40
of
43:40
course
43:40
is
43:41
Satan
43:42
and
43:42
our
43:42
sin.
43:43
And
43:43
then
43:44
there
43:44
are
43:44
going
43:44
to
43:44
be
43:44
people
43:44
out
43:45
there
43:46
who
43:46
are
43:46
listening
43:46
and
43:46
say,
43:46
well,
43:47
he's
43:47
not
43:47
real.
43:47
And
43:48
there's
43:48
other
43:48
people
43:48
who
43:48
say,
43:49
well,
43:49
actually
43:49
he's
43:50
just
43:50
an
43:50
accuser.
43:50
He's
43:51
not
43:51
a
43:51
bad
43:51
guy.
43:52
And
43:52
I'm
43:53
going
43:53
to
43:53
be
43:53
of
43:53
the
43:53
opinion,
43:54
I
43:54
would
43:55
say
43:55
fact,
43:55
that
43:56
he
43:56
is
43:56
real.
43:57
He
43:57
hates
43:57
and
43:57
despises
43:58
us.
43:58
He's
43:58
going
43:59
to
43:59
cause
43:59
problems
44:00
and
44:00
people
44:00
are
44:01
suffering
44:01
as
44:01
a
44:01
result
44:02
because
44:02
we're
44:02
not
44:02
unified
44:03
around
44:03
a
44:03
common
44:03
threat
44:04
which
44:04
we
44:04
all
44:04
share.
44:05
And
44:05
ignoring
44:05
him
44:06
for
44:06
a
44:06
moment,
44:06
we
44:06
do
44:06
have
44:07
a
44:07
common
44:07
threat.
44:07
Now
44:07
we
44:08
all
44:08
experience
44:08
sin,
44:09
but
44:09
then
44:10
the
44:10
same
44:10
thing
44:10
crops
44:11
up.
44:11
They're
44:11
going
44:12
to
44:12
say,
44:12
this
44:12
isn't
44:12
a
44:12
sin.
44:13
I'm
44:13
going
44:13
to
44:13
say,
44:13
look
44:13
at
44:14
this
44:14
book,
44:14
look
44:14
what
44:14
it
44:14
says.
44:15
And
44:15
it
44:16
says
44:16
exactly
44:16
that.
44:17
That's
44:17
a
44:17
sin.
44:17
So
44:17
how
44:17
dare
44:18
you
44:18
say
44:18
anything
44:18
else.
44:19
And
44:19
then
44:19
friction
44:19
is
44:19
going
44:20
to
44:20
erupt
44:20
there.
44:20
So,
44:20
well,
44:21
this
44:21
is
44:22
not
44:22
being
44:22
addressed
44:22
at
44:22
this
44:23
church
44:23
because
44:23
they
44:24
love
44:24
this
44:24
sin
44:25
or
44:25
this
44:25
church
44:25
over
44:26
here
44:26
is
44:26
addressing.
44:26
Not
44:26
addressing
44:27
this
44:27
because
44:27
they
44:27
love
44:27
the
44:27
sin
44:28
or
44:28
they're
44:28
going
44:28
to
44:28
downplay
44:29
it
44:29
because,
44:29
well,
44:29
we
44:29
can't
44:30
let
44:30
the
44:30
pastor
44:30
be
44:30
taken
44:31
down.
44:31
He's
44:31
the
44:31
only
44:32
person
44:32
in
44:32
charge,
44:32
and
44:33
that
44:33
causes
44:33
problems.
44:34
So,
44:35
yes,
44:36
you're
44:36
not
44:37
unified.
44:37
Threat
44:38
is
44:38
a
44:38
good
44:39
thing
44:39
if
44:39
you
44:40
actually,
44:41
you
44:41
know,
44:41
unify
44:42
against
44:42
it.
44:43
And
44:43
one
44:44
of
44:44
the
44:44
good
44:44
things
44:44
about
44:44
this
44:44
game
44:45
is
44:45
that
44:45
there
44:45
are
44:46
people
44:46
eventually
44:47
who
44:47
lay
44:48
down
44:48
their
44:48
pride,
44:49
who
44:49
submit
44:49
to
44:49
the
44:50
authority
44:50
of
44:50
someone
44:50
who
44:50
isn't
44:51
who
44:51
they
44:51
would
44:51
have
44:52
picked.
44:52
And
44:52
we
44:53
are
44:53
able
44:53
to,
44:54
depending
44:54
on
44:54
how
44:54
you
44:54
win
44:55
the
44:55
game,
44:55
stop
44:56
the
44:56
threat
44:57
or.
44:57
Yeah,
44:58
I'm
44:58
not
44:58
going
44:58
to
44:58
go
44:58
any
44:58
further.
44:59
I've
44:59
wrestled
45:00
with
45:00
Mass
45:00
Effect
45:01
3
45:01
since
45:01
release.
45:03
Yeah,
45:04
it's
45:04
really.
45:05
It
45:06
just
45:06
goes
45:06
to
45:06
show
45:06
you,
45:07
one
45:07
of
45:07
the
45:07
few
45:07
things
45:08
that
45:08
we've
45:08
said
45:08
on
45:09
this
45:09
show,
45:10
at
45:10
least
45:10
for
45:11
me
45:11
since
45:11
the
45:11
beginning,
45:12
is
45:12
that
45:12
pride
45:13
can
45:14
stop
45:14
any
45:14
unity.
45:15
And
45:16
setting
45:16
that
45:16
aside
45:17
is
45:17
the
45:17
only
45:17
thing
45:18
that
45:18
allows
45:18
us
45:18
to
45:19
truly
45:19
unify.
45:21
Also,
45:21
it's
45:22
a
45:22
major
45:22
part
45:22
of
45:23
Saren's
45:25
whole
45:25
character
45:25
arc
45:25
from
45:26
Mass
45:26
Effect
45:26
1.
45:26
I
45:27
know
45:27
we're
45:27
talking
45:27
about
45:27
3
45:28
now,
45:29
but
45:29
he
45:29
ruined
45:29
his
45:30
entire
45:30
life
45:30
because
45:31
he
45:31
had
45:31
too
45:31
much
45:32
pride
45:32
to
45:33
let
45:33
a
45:33
human
45:34
join
45:34
the
45:34
Galactic
45:35
Council.
45:36
Yeah,
45:37
yeah.
45:38
Which
45:39
also,
45:39
great
45:39
story.
45:40
Maybe
45:40
a
45:41
different
45:41
episode
45:42
one
45:42
day,
45:42
but
45:43
just
45:43
talking
45:43
about
45:43
Saren.
45:44
Yeah.
45:45
I
45:46
want
45:46
to
45:46
throw
45:46
a
45:46
couple
45:46
of
45:47
things
45:47
out.
45:48
I
45:49
am
45:49
not
45:49
big
45:49
on
45:50
the
45:50
whole
45:50
sheared
45:50
enemy
45:51
thing
45:52
in
45:52
general,
45:53
mostly
45:53
because
45:54
I
45:54
think
45:54
typically
45:55
we
45:55
use
45:55
that
45:55
to
45:55
justify
45:56
othering
45:57
someone
45:57
else
45:57
in
45:57
our
45:57
culture
45:58
and
45:58
making
45:58
them
45:58
the
45:58
enemy,
45:59
whether
45:59
it's
45:59
the
45:59
gays,
46:01
this
46:01
ethnicity,
46:02
whatever,
46:03
this
46:03
country.
46:04
We
46:04
could
46:04
just
46:04
treat
46:04
all
46:05
Muslims
46:05
are
46:05
the
46:05
bad
46:06
guys.
46:06
We
46:06
should
46:06
just
46:06
go
46:06
bomb
46:07
them
46:07
and
46:07
that'll
46:07
create
46:07
unity.
46:08
And,
46:08
like,
46:09
that
46:09
stuff
46:09
gives
46:09
me
46:09
the
46:09
ick.
46:10
And
46:10
that's
46:10
not
46:10
what
46:10
Christian
46:10
was
46:11
talking
46:11
about.
46:11
I
46:11
just
46:11
want
46:11
to
46:11
say,
46:12
usually
46:12
when
46:12
I
46:12
hear
46:12
this
46:12
stuff,
46:13
that's
46:13
what
46:13
my
46:13
brain
46:13
goes
46:14
to.
46:14
And
46:14
I'm
46:14
like,
46:14
I
46:14
don't
46:14
like
46:14
that.
46:16
I
46:16
do
46:16
think,
46:16
though,
46:17
in
46:17
my
46:17
experience,
46:18
in
46:18
the
46:18
churches
46:18
in
46:18
America,
46:19
a
46:19
lot
46:19
of
46:19
times,
46:20
even
46:20
around
46:20
the
46:20
conversation
46:21
of,
46:21
like,
46:21
soteriology,
46:22
when
46:22
we
46:22
talk
46:22
about
46:22
what
46:22
is
46:23
salvation,
46:24
you
46:24
have
46:24
people
46:24
talk
46:24
like,
46:24
well,
46:24
salvation
46:25
is
46:25
wholeness.
46:25
Making
46:26
it's
46:26
making
46:26
this
46:27
person
46:27
whole.
46:27
Have
46:27
the
46:28
fruit
46:28
of
46:28
the
46:28
spirit
46:28
feeling
46:29
love,
46:29
being
46:29
filled
46:29
with
46:30
Christ.
46:30
And
46:30
then
46:31
people
46:31
who
46:31
talk
46:31
about
46:31
salvation
46:31
as
46:32
if
46:32
it's,
46:32
well,
46:32
getting
46:33
rid
46:33
of
46:33
sin
46:33
and
46:33
not
46:34
going
46:34
to
46:34
hell
46:34
and
46:35
kind
46:35
of
46:35
focusing
46:35
on
46:36
not
46:36
the
46:36
negatives,
46:37
you
46:37
know?
46:37
You
46:37
know,
46:38
and
46:39
what's
46:39
weird
46:39
is
46:39
you
46:39
see
46:40
a
46:40
lot
46:40
of,
46:40
like,
46:40
unwillingness
46:41
to
46:41
Cooperate
46:42
because
46:42
it's
46:42
like,
46:42
oh,
46:43
well,
46:43
you
46:43
mean
46:43
something
46:43
different
46:43
here.
46:44
And
46:44
I'm
46:44
like,
46:44
wait
46:44
a
46:44
minute,
46:45
I
46:46
can
46:46
be
46:46
for
46:47
wholeness
46:47
making
46:47
and
46:48
that
46:48
be
46:48
what
46:48
I
46:48
think
46:48
salvation
46:49
is
46:49
all
46:49
about
46:50
and
46:50
still
46:50
not
46:51
like
46:51
sin.
46:52
Like,
46:52
both
46:53
of
46:53
those
46:53
things
46:53
can
46:53
be
46:53
true.
46:55
And
46:55
I
46:55
can
46:55
look
46:55
past,
46:56
like,
46:56
if
46:56
I'm
46:56
talking
46:57
about
46:57
salvation,
46:57
to
46:57
me,
46:57
the
46:57
biggest
46:58
thing
46:58
is
46:58
wholeness
46:59
making.
46:59
It's
47:00
having
47:00
someone
47:00
have
47:01
a
47:01
life
47:01
that's
47:01
flourishing
47:02
in
47:02
Christ.
47:03
And
47:03
I
47:03
can
47:03
hear,
47:04
I
47:04
might
47:04
be
47:05
misrepresenting,
47:05
I
47:05
don't
47:06
know.
47:06
But
47:06
I
47:06
can
47:06
talk
47:06
to
47:06
Christian
47:07
and
47:07
know
47:07
that
47:07
he
47:07
thinks
47:07
the
47:08
biggest
47:08
thing
47:08
is
47:08
that
47:08
we
47:09
fight
47:09
against
47:09
sin,
47:10
fight
47:10
against
47:10
our
47:10
sinful
47:11
natures,
47:12
you
47:12
know,
47:12
powers
47:13
that
47:13
be,
47:13
of
47:14
hell,
47:14
whatever.
47:15
At
47:15
the
47:16
end,
47:16
both
47:16
of
47:17
us
47:17
have
47:17
the
47:17
goal
47:17
for
47:17
people
47:17
to
47:18
accept
47:18
Jesus
47:18
as
47:19
the
47:19
one
47:19
who
47:19
died
47:19
and
47:19
rose
47:19
again
47:20
as
47:20
God
47:21
himself,
47:21
and
47:22
for
47:22
us
47:22
all
47:22
to
47:22
be
47:22
in
47:23
heaven
47:23
one
47:23
day.
47:23
The
47:24
metaphysics,
47:24
the
47:24
logistics
47:25
of
47:25
all
47:25
that
47:25
and
47:25
how
47:25
we
47:25
both
47:25
think
47:26
are
47:26
gonna
47:26
be
47:26
pretty
47:27
wildly
47:27
different
47:27
in
47:27
the
47:27
meantime.
47:29
But
47:29
I
47:29
think
47:29
that
47:30
shared
47:30
goal
47:30
is
47:30
still
47:31
important,
47:32
even
47:32
if
47:32
it's
47:32
not
47:33
necessarily
47:33
the
47:33
shared
47:33
enemy
47:34
thing.
47:35
I
47:35
think
47:35
the
47:36
game
47:36
does
47:36
a
47:36
good
47:36
job
47:36
at
47:36
showing
47:37
that
47:37
and
47:37
showing
47:37
that
47:37
it's
47:38
messy
47:38
because
47:38
you
47:39
have
47:39
to
47:40
really
47:40
convince
47:41
some
47:41
people,
47:41
no,
47:41
this
47:41
is
47:42
a
47:42
shared
47:42
goal.
47:42
Like,
47:43
well,
47:43
no,
47:43
because
47:43
you're
47:43
gonna
47:43
do
47:43
it
47:44
that
47:44
way,
47:44
and
47:44
that's
47:44
the
47:44
human
47:44
way.
47:44
And
47:44
I'm
47:45
like,
47:46
hold
47:46
up
47:46
at
47:46
the
47:46
end.
47:47
This
47:47
is
47:47
the
47:48
result
47:48
we
47:48
both
47:48
want,
47:49
right?
47:49
Well,
47:50
let's
47:50
work
47:50
towards
47:50
that.
47:52
And
47:52
sometimes
47:53
that's
47:53
hard
47:53
to
47:53
do
47:53
because
47:54
some
47:54
people
47:54
only
47:54
hear,
47:55
wait
47:55
a
47:55
minute,
47:55
you
47:56
said
47:56
salvation
47:56
isn't
47:56
about
47:57
sin.
47:57
Okay,
47:58
let's
47:58
move
47:59
past
47:59
that
47:59
question
47:59
for
47:59
just
48:00
a
48:00
minute
48:00
here.
48:01
Just
48:01
a
48:01
minute.
48:03
And,
48:03
you
48:03
know,
48:03
I
48:03
see
48:04
a
48:04
lot
48:04
of
48:04
that
48:04
with
48:04
Catholics
48:04
and
48:05
Protestants.
48:05
I'll
48:06
point
48:06
this
48:06
out
48:06
really
48:07
specifically
48:07
of,
48:07
like,
48:07
there's
48:08
that
48:08
question
48:08
of
48:09
are
48:09
we
48:09
saved
48:09
by
48:09
faith
48:10
or
48:10
by
48:10
works
48:10
kind
48:10
of
48:11
deal.
48:11
And
48:11
it's.
48:11
Well,
48:12
first
48:12
off,
48:13
Catholics
48:13
don't
48:13
believe
48:13
you're
48:13
saved
48:14
by
48:14
works.
48:14
They
48:14
believe
48:14
that
48:15
you
48:15
are
48:15
saved
48:16
by
48:16
faith
48:17
and
48:17
your
48:18
salvation
48:18
is
48:18
worked
48:19
out
48:19
so
48:19
you're
48:20
saved
48:20
while
48:20
you're
48:20
doing
48:20
the
48:21
works.
48:21
And
48:21
what
48:21
Protestants
48:22
will
48:22
say
48:22
is,
48:22
no,
48:22
you're
48:22
saved
48:22
by
48:23
faith
48:23
alone.
48:24
And
48:24
as
48:24
soon
48:24
as
48:24
you're
48:24
saved,
48:25
you're
48:25
going
48:25
to
48:25
start
48:25
doing
48:25
those
48:25
works.
48:26
The
48:26
end
48:26
result,
48:27
both
48:27
groups
48:28
still
48:28
think
48:28
you're
48:28
saved
48:28
by
48:28
faith
48:29
and
48:29
that
48:29
you
48:29
should
48:29
be
48:29
doing
48:29
those
48:30
works.
48:30
The
48:31
logistics
48:31
are
48:31
important.
48:31
The
48:32
semantics
48:32
are
48:32
incredibly
48:33
important.
48:34
But,
48:34
man,
48:35
some
48:35
of
48:35
the
48:35
fights
48:36
and,
48:36
like,
48:36
the
48:36
just
48:37
hatred
48:37
that
48:38
people
48:38
show
48:38
one
48:38
another
48:39
over
48:39
this
48:40
seems
48:40
a
48:40
little
48:41
silly
48:41
when
48:41
you
48:41
really
48:41
boil
48:42
down
48:42
and
48:42
realize
48:42
what
48:43
the
48:43
semantic
48:43
argument
48:44
is
48:44
and
48:44
you're
48:44
like,
48:45
yeah,
48:46
that's
48:46
an
48:46
important
48:46
argument,
48:46
but
48:47
it
48:47
really
48:48
makes
48:48
sense
48:48
to
48:48
hate
48:48
the
48:49
other
48:49
guy
48:49
for
48:49
having
48:49
that
48:50
difference.
48:51
I
48:51
don't
48:51
think
48:51
so.
48:52
But,
48:53
you
48:53
know,
48:53
we
48:53
make
48:54
it
48:54
hard
48:54
on
48:54
ourselves
48:54
a
48:54
lot
48:54
of
48:55
times.
48:56
Yeah,
48:56
that's
48:56
true.
48:59
Go
48:59
ahead,
48:59
Christian.
49:00
Well,
49:00
I
49:00
was
49:00
just
49:00
gonna
49:01
say
49:02
the
49:02
important
49:02
part
49:02
of
49:03
it
49:03
is
49:04
I
49:04
think
49:05
sometimes
49:05
Joshua
49:06
has
49:06
very
49:06
stupid
49:07
takes.
49:08
But
49:08
if
49:08
I
49:08
learned
49:09
that,
49:10
that
49:11
me
49:11
being
49:11
upset
49:12
at
49:12
stupid
49:12
takes
49:13
then
49:13
turn
49:14
into
49:14
hatred,
49:15
I
49:15
become
49:16
the
49:16
person
49:16
who
49:16
should
49:16
be
49:17
mocked
49:17
in
49:17
that
49:17
scenario.
49:18
Even
49:18
if
49:19
his
49:19
attacks
49:20
are
49:20
objectively
49:20
wrong,
49:21
I'm
49:21
still
49:21
in
49:21
the
49:22
wrong
49:22
for
49:22
allowing
49:23
something
49:23
like
49:23
that
49:24
to
49:24
get
49:25
to
49:25
the
49:25
point
49:25
of
49:25
hatred
49:26
and
49:26
anger.
49:27
So,
49:27
yes,
49:28
when
49:28
it
49:28
comes
49:28
to
49:28
working
49:29
with
49:29
these
49:29
different
49:30
denominations
49:30
and
49:31
the
49:31
like,
49:31
I
49:31
am
49:31
never
49:32
going
49:32
to
49:32
agree
49:32
on
49:32
certain
49:33
matters.
49:34
I'm
49:34
never
49:34
going
49:34
to
49:34
agree
49:35
on
49:35
transubstantiation.
49:36
I'm
49:37
never
49:37
going
49:37
to
49:37
agree
49:37
on
49:38
affirming
49:39
LGBT
49:40
into
49:40
the
49:40
church
49:41
and
49:41
marriage
49:41
and
49:41
all
49:41
that.
49:42
But
49:42
what
49:42
I
49:43
can
49:43
do
49:43
is
49:43
I
49:43
can
49:44
say,
49:44
I
49:44
think
49:44
that's
49:44
stupid.
49:45
And
49:45
here's
49:45
how
49:45
I'm
49:46
going
49:46
to
49:46
justify
49:46
it
49:46
by
49:47
looking
49:47
into
49:47
scripture.
49:48
But
49:48
then
49:48
I'm
49:49
going
49:49
to
49:49
go,
49:49
okay,
49:50
this
49:50
church
49:51
right
49:51
here,
49:51
this
49:52
Methodist
49:52
church,
49:52
which
49:52
didn't
49:53
split
49:53
off,
49:54
is
49:54
still
49:54
within
49:54
the
49:55
sphere
49:55
of
49:55
influences
49:55
earlier.
49:57
Has
49:57
this
49:57
already
49:57
set
49:58
up
49:58
homeless
49:59
ministry
49:59
here?
49:59
That's
50:00
an
50:00
easy
50:00
thing
50:01
to
50:01
bring
50:01
up
50:01
there.
50:01
And
50:01
I
50:02
am
50:02
in
50:02
the
50:02
church
50:02
nearby.
50:03
Well,
50:03
what
50:04
would
50:04
be
50:04
the
50:04
easiest
50:04
thing
50:05
to
50:05
do?
50:05
Me
50:06
joining
50:06
with
50:06
them
50:06
doesn't
50:07
mean
50:07
I
50:07
agree
50:07
with
50:07
everything
50:08
that
50:08
you
50:08
do.
50:08
It
50:09
means
50:09
that
50:09
I
50:09
agree
50:09
with
50:10
the
50:10
purpose
50:10
you've
50:10
built
50:11
in
50:11
that
50:11
state,
50:12
which
50:12
I
50:12
am
50:12
commanded
50:13
to
50:13
do,
50:13
to
50:13
look
50:14
after
50:14
those
50:15
who
50:15
are
50:15
lost,
50:15
look
50:16
after
50:16
those
50:16
who
50:16
are
50:16
hungry
50:17
and
50:17
don't
50:17
have
50:17
a
50:18
place
50:18
to
50:18
stay.
50:19
So
50:19
why
50:19
can't
50:20
I
50:20
get
50:20
over
50:21
what
50:21
I
50:22
don't
50:22
like
50:22
about
50:22
them
50:23
and
50:23
work
50:23
with
50:24
them,
50:24
even
50:24
though
50:24
I
50:25
do
50:25
despise
50:25
some
50:26
of
50:26
the
50:26
things
50:26
they
50:26
think,
50:27
well,
50:28
let
50:28
me
50:28
throw
50:29
a
50:29
wrench
50:29
in
50:29
this
50:29
real
50:29
quick
50:30
and
50:30
show
50:30
people
50:30
why
50:30
it
50:30
is
50:31
still
50:31
complicated,
50:32
because
50:32
I
50:32
don't
50:33
want
50:33
to
50:33
be
50:33
those
50:34
people
50:34
who
50:34
make
50:34
it
50:34
seem
50:34
way
50:35
more
50:35
simple
50:35
than
50:35
it
50:35
is.
50:37
There
50:37
are
50:37
levels
50:38
of
50:38
this.
50:38
I
50:38
think
50:39
your
50:39
example,
50:39
when
50:40
it's
50:40
like
50:40
a
50:40
food
50:40
pantry,
50:41
homeless
50:41
mission,
50:42
whatever,
50:42
is
50:42
a
50:42
really
50:43
good
50:43
one,
50:43
if
50:44
that's
50:44
happening,
50:45
I
50:45
think
50:45
it
50:45
should
50:46
be
50:46
a
50:46
lot
50:46
easier
50:46
for
50:46
churches
50:47
to
50:47
say,
50:47
hey,
50:47
let's
50:47
work
50:48
with
50:48
one
50:48
another
50:48
on
50:48
this.
50:49
Sure.
50:50
If,
50:50
though,
50:51
it's
50:51
like
50:53
insert
50:53
church,
50:54
I'm
50:54
trying
50:54
to
50:54
think
50:54
of
50:54
church
50:54
that
50:55
I
50:55
like.
50:55
I
50:55
just
50:55
don't
50:56
agree
50:56
with
50:56
very
50:56
much.
50:58
Usually
50:58
it
50:58
would
50:58
be
50:58
the
50:58
Southern
50:59
Baptist,
50:59
unfortunately,
51:00
and
51:00
I
51:00
love
51:01
a
51:01
lot
51:01
of
51:01
Southern
51:01
Baptists.
51:01
We
51:01
have
51:02
them
51:02
on
51:02
the
51:02
show
51:02
pretty
51:02
frequently.
51:03
I'll
51:04
use
51:04
the
51:04
Mormon
51:04
Church
51:04
because
51:04
I
51:05
disagree
51:05
with
51:05
them
51:05
more,
51:05
even
51:06
though
51:06
this
51:06
is
51:07
an
51:07
absurd
51:07
example
51:08
if
51:08
we
51:08
use
51:08
them.
51:08
But
51:08
it's
51:09
fine.
51:09
If
51:10
the
51:10
Church
51:10
of
51:11
Latter
51:11
Day
51:11
Saints,
51:11
Jesus
51:12
Christ
51:12
in
51:12
the
51:12
area
51:13
was
51:13
having
51:13
a
51:13
big
51:14
ecumenical
51:14
service,
51:14
inviting
51:15
people
51:15
to
51:15
come
51:15
worship
51:16
with
51:16
them
51:16
and
51:17
saying,
51:17
bring
51:17
three
51:17
friends,
51:19
I
51:19
might
51:20
go.
51:21
Personally,
51:22
I'm
51:22
not
51:22
bringing
51:22
three
51:23
friends
51:23
because
51:24
I
51:24
don't
51:24
want
51:24
to
51:24
mislead
51:25
people
51:25
to
51:25
going
51:25
to
51:25
that
51:26
church
51:26
because
51:26
I
51:26
think
51:26
that
51:27
there's
51:27
a
51:27
lot
51:27
of
51:27
stuff
51:27
that
51:27
you
51:27
believe
51:28
that
51:28
is
51:28
incorrect.
51:30
Similarly,
51:30
like,
51:30
if
51:31
we're
51:31
going
51:31
to
51:31
do
51:31
an
51:31
evangelist
51:32
mission
51:32
together.
51:34
What
51:34
do
51:34
you
51:34
mean?
51:34
If
51:35
we're
51:35
going
51:35
to
51:35
do
51:35
mission
51:35
work?
51:36
And
51:36
Krishna's
51:36
like,
51:36
hey,
51:37
Josh,
51:37
let's
51:37
me
51:37
and
51:37
you
51:37
go
51:38
feed
51:38
the
51:38
hungry
51:39
in
51:39
New
51:39
Orleans.
51:40
Okay,
51:40
man,
51:40
let's
51:41
do
51:41
it.
51:41
Krishna
51:42
was
51:42
like,
51:42
let's
51:42
go
51:42
to
51:42
New
51:42
Orleans
51:43
and
51:43
convince
51:44
five
51:44
people
51:44
to
51:44
become
51:44
members
51:45
of
51:45
the
51:45
Southern
51:45
Baptist
51:46
Church.
51:46
I'd
51:46
be
51:46
like,
51:47
hey,
51:47
man,
51:47
I
51:47
wish
51:47
you
51:47
the
51:47
best
51:48
and
51:48
I
51:48
hope
51:48
you
51:48
do
51:48
a
51:48
really
51:48
good
51:49
job
51:49
with
51:49
that.
51:49
I
51:50
don't
51:50
think
51:50
I
51:50
should
51:50
be
51:50
a
51:51
part
51:51
of
51:51
that
51:51
particular
51:51
mission,
51:52
you
51:53
know,
51:53
and
51:53
I
51:53
don't
51:54
think
51:54
Christian
51:54
would
51:54
want
51:54
to
51:55
do
51:55
the
51:55
same
51:55
thing
51:55
if
51:55
it
51:55
was
51:56
ELCA,
51:56
like,
51:56
hey,
51:57
Christian,
51:57
help
51:57
me
51:57
get
51:58
10
51:58
people
51:58
to
51:58
sign
51:58
up
51:59
to
51:59
be.
51:59
He
51:59
probably
52:00
won't
52:00
be
52:00
on
52:00
board
52:00
with
52:01
that.
52:02
So
52:02
I
52:02
think
52:02
it
52:02
depends
52:03
what
52:03
kind
52:03
of
52:03
missions,
52:03
what
52:04
kind
52:04
of
52:04
stuff
52:04
we're
52:04
doing,
52:06
because
52:06
different,
52:07
I
52:07
think
52:07
different
52:07
levels
52:08
of
52:08
mission,
52:08
of
52:09
work,
52:09
different
52:09
kinds
52:09
of
52:09
work
52:10
shows
52:11
different
52:11
levels
52:12
of
52:12
approval.
52:13
You
52:13
know,
52:13
if
52:13
I'm
52:14
bringing
52:14
people
52:15
to
52:15
that
52:16
big
52:16
Mormon
52:16
church
52:17
event,
52:17
that
52:17
shows
52:17
that
52:18
I'm
52:18
approving
52:18
of
52:19
what
52:19
they
52:19
believe.
52:19
Whereas
52:20
if
52:20
they're
52:20
helping
52:20
the
52:20
hungry
52:21
and
52:22
I'm
52:22
like,
52:22
let's
52:22
go
52:22
help
52:23
the
52:23
hungry,
52:23
I
52:24
don't
52:24
think
52:24
that
52:24
really
52:24
shows
52:25
that
52:25
I
52:25
approve
52:25
of
52:26
their
52:26
beliefs.
52:26
It
52:26
shows
52:27
that
52:27
I
52:27
want
52:27
to
52:27
help
52:27
the
52:27
hungry.
52:28
I
52:28
agree.
52:29
I
52:29
agree.
52:30
So
52:31
if
52:31
we
52:32
were
52:32
to
52:32
try
52:32
and
52:33
have
52:33
a
52:33
local
52:34
church
52:34
at
52:34
the
52:34
Citadel
52:35
with
52:35
humans,
52:36
Tyrians,
52:36
Asari,
52:37
a
52:37
quarians,
52:38
salarians,
52:38
Krogans
52:40
on
52:40
our
52:42
all
52:42
of
52:42
them,
52:44
what
52:45
would
52:45
be
52:45
the
52:45
most
52:45
difficult
52:46
differences
52:47
to
52:47
navigate?
52:48
How
52:48
would
52:48
we
52:49
handle
52:49
those?
52:49
If
52:49
you
52:49
were
52:50
their
52:50
pastor
52:51
or
52:51
their
52:51
shepherd.
52:52
See
52:52
what
52:53
we
52:53
did
52:53
there?
52:53
Shepherd
52:53
commander.
52:54
Yeah,
52:56
I
52:56
mean,
52:57
it's
52:57
already
52:58
difficult
52:58
enough
52:59
with
52:59
just
52:59
the
52:59
one
53:00
species.
53:01
It's
53:01
pretty
53:01
hard.
53:01
But
53:02
then
53:03
you
53:03
throw
53:04
in
53:04
other
53:04
ones.
53:04
I
53:05
mean,
53:05
that
53:05
asks
53:05
a
53:05
lot
53:05
of
53:06
questions.
53:06
You
53:06
know,
53:07
if,
53:08
you
53:08
know,
53:08
these
53:09
other
53:09
species
53:09
exist,
53:10
did
53:10
Jesus
53:11
show
53:11
up
53:11
on
53:11
their
53:12
planet?
53:12
Are
53:12
they
53:12
fallen
53:13
races
53:13
given
53:13
in
53:14
the
53:14
games?
53:14
Yes.
53:14
Every
53:14
single
53:15
one
53:15
of
53:15
them
53:15
would
53:15
be
53:15
counting
53:16
as
53:16
fallen.
53:17
So
53:17
that
53:17
means
53:17
there
53:17
would
53:17
be
53:17
a
53:18
need
53:18
for
53:18
them
53:18
to
53:18
be
53:18
redeemed.
53:19
Does
53:19
that
53:20
mean
53:20
there
53:20
was
53:20
only
53:20
the
53:21
singular
53:21
Jesus
53:21
who
53:22
showed
53:22
up
53:22
on
53:22
Earth
53:23
and
53:23
now
53:23
it
53:23
is
53:24
my
53:24
responsibility
53:24
to
53:25
be
53:25
a
53:25
missionary
53:25
to
53:26
these
53:26
races?
53:27
Or
53:27
did
53:27
a
53:28
Jesus
53:28
figure
53:29
who
53:29
is
53:29
actually
53:30
Jesus
53:30
show
53:30
up
53:31
as
53:31
a
53:31
Turian,
53:32
show
53:32
up
53:33
as
53:33
a
53:33
quarian,
53:34
so
53:34
on
53:34
and
53:34
so
53:34
forth
53:34
in
53:35
their
53:35
past
53:35
and
53:35
now
53:36
we
53:36
are
53:36
going
53:36
to
53:36
have
53:36
to
53:36
work
53:37
together
53:38
to
53:38
figure
53:38
out,
53:38
okay,
53:39
this
53:39
is
53:39
what
53:39
your
53:39
Bible
53:40
says.
53:40
This
53:41
is
53:41
what
53:41
my
53:41
Bible
53:42
says.
53:42
Well,
53:43
why
53:43
did,
53:43
why
53:43
is
53:44
this
53:44
written
53:44
in
53:44
mind?
53:44
Well,
53:44
maybe
53:45
because
53:45
it
53:45
pertains
53:45
to
53:45
Earth.
53:46
Well,
53:46
this
53:46
pertains
53:47
to
53:47
Tuchanka,
53:48
what
53:48
have
53:49
you.
53:49
And
53:49
now
53:49
that's
53:50
a
53:50
lot
53:50
of
53:50
extra
53:50
work
53:51
and
53:51
something
53:51
that's
53:51
already
53:52
difficult
53:52
enough
53:52
as
53:53
it
53:53
is.
53:53
Let's
53:53
move
53:53
all
53:54
that
53:54
to
53:54
an
53:54
aside.
53:55
Yeah,
53:56
I
53:56
personally,
53:56
I
53:57
do
53:57
believe
53:57
in
53:58
simultaneous
53:58
galactic
53:59
Jesus.
54:00
If
54:00
we're,
54:01
if
54:01
we're
54:01
throwing
54:01
out,
54:03
that
54:03
needs
54:03
to
54:04
be
54:04
a
54:04
name
54:04
for
54:04
that
54:04
doctrine
54:05
specifically.
54:06
But
54:06
then
54:07
there's
54:07
a
54:07
lot
54:07
of
54:08
overcorrection
54:08
that
54:08
needs
54:09
to
54:09
be
54:09
done
54:09
here
54:09
because
54:10
you've
54:10
got
54:10
a.
54:11
Sorry,
54:11
who
54:11
by
54:12
their
54:12
very
54:12
nature
54:12
they're
54:13
designed
54:13
to
54:13
be,
54:14
you
54:14
know,
54:15
blue
54:15
skinned
54:15
alien
54:16
babes
54:16
who
54:16
can
54:16
mate
54:17
with
54:17
any
54:17
species
54:18
in
54:18
the
54:18
galaxy.
54:19
The
54:20
free
54:20
love
54:20
stuff
54:21
does
54:21
not
54:21
work
54:22
within
54:22
the
54:22
confines
54:23
of
54:24
Christianity
54:25
unless
54:25
you
54:25
have
54:25
a
54:25
really
54:26
mixed
54:27
take
54:27
on
54:27
what
54:28
the
54:28
Bible
54:28
actually
54:28
says
54:29
on
54:29
the
54:29
issue.
54:30
So
54:30
how
54:30
do
54:30
we
54:30
handle
54:31
that
54:32
with
54:32
quarians?
54:33
How
54:33
can
54:34
I
54:34
give
54:34
them
54:34
communion
54:35
without
54:35
murdering
54:36
them?
54:37
Because
54:37
they,
54:37
they
54:38
can't
54:38
live
54:38
outside
54:39
of
54:39
their
54:39
specialized
54:40
suits.
54:40
And
54:41
same
54:41
thing
54:41
with
54:41
Turians
54:42
too.
54:42
They
54:42
have
54:42
a
54:43
different
54:43
biochemistry
54:44
than
54:44
humans.
54:45
So
54:45
what
54:45
is
54:45
their
54:46
version
54:46
of
54:46
bread
54:46
and
54:46
wine?
54:47
That
54:47
they
54:47
wouldn't
54:48
die
54:48
if
54:48
I
54:49
gave
54:49
it
54:49
to
54:49
them.
54:50
Like
54:50
there's
54:51
a
54:51
lot
54:51
of
54:51
things
54:51
you
54:51
have
54:51
to
54:51
do
54:51
that.
54:52
And
54:52
that's
54:52
not
54:52
even
54:53
considering
54:53
everything
54:53
about
54:54
different
54:54
cultures
54:55
and
54:56
different
54:57
ways
54:57
on
54:57
how
54:57
justice
54:58
is
54:58
delivered.
54:58
Like
54:59
it's
54:59
going
54:59
to
54:59
be
54:59
a
54:59
lot
54:59
of
54:59
extra
55:00
work
55:00
and
55:00
it's
55:00
something
55:00
well
55:00
worth
55:01
doing
55:01
if
55:01
this
55:01
were
55:01
to
55:02
happen.
55:03
So
55:03
it
55:03
sounds
55:03
like
55:03
Christians
55:04
answer
55:04
is,
55:04
all
55:04
of
55:04
it
55:05
is
55:05
the
55:05
most
55:05
difficult
55:05
part.
55:07
Literally
55:07
all
55:07
of
55:07
it
55:07
is.
55:08
It
55:08
is.
55:09
I
55:10
am.
55:11
Did
55:11
you
55:11
want
55:11
to
55:11
go,
55:11
tj?
55:12
I
55:12
was
55:12
gonna
55:13
go.
55:13
Yeah,
55:13
go
55:13
ahead.
55:14
Yeah.
55:15
I
55:15
don't
55:15
agree
55:15
with
55:15
what
55:16
he
55:16
said.
55:16
Obviously
55:17
that
55:17
would
55:17
be
55:17
difficult,
55:18
but
55:18
that's
55:18
too
55:19
easy.
55:20
The
55:20
hardest
55:20
part
55:20
is
55:21
what
55:21
are
55:21
you
55:21
gonna
55:21
do
55:21
when
55:22
the
55:22
980
55:24
year
55:24
old
55:24
Asari
55:25
matriarch
55:25
in
55:26
your
55:26
congregation
55:27
comes
55:27
up
55:27
to
55:27
you
55:27
for
55:27
advice?
55:30
Yeah.
55:32
What
55:32
do
55:32
you
55:32
mean?
55:33
You're
55:33
900
55:34
years
55:34
old.
55:35
What
55:35
do
55:35
you
55:36
need
55:36
my
55:36
advice
55:36
for?
55:37
I
55:37
hear
55:37
that's
55:37
a
55:38
common
55:38
problem
55:39
that
55:39
pastors
55:39
have.
55:39
Not
55:40
that
55:40
specific
55:40
one,
55:41
but
55:41
of
55:41
having,
55:41
like,
55:41
older
55:42
pastors
55:42
in
55:42
their
55:42
congregation,
55:43
ask
55:43
them
55:43
about
55:44
stuff.
55:44
Because
55:44
it's
55:44
like,
55:45
who
55:46
am
55:46
I
55:46
to
55:46
tell
55:46
you?
55:46
I
55:47
don't
55:47
know.
55:49
I
55:49
feel
55:49
as
55:49
though
55:49
when
55:50
Christian's
55:50
a
55:50
pastor
55:52
speaking
55:52
that
55:53
soon,
55:53
hopefully,
55:55
I
55:55
believe
55:55
there
55:55
probably
55:56
going
55:56
to
55:56
be
55:56
a
55:56
point
55:57
where
55:57
Will's
55:57
going
55:57
to
55:57
ask
55:58
him
55:58
for
55:58
something
55:58
at
55:59
some
55:59
point.
55:59
Like,
55:59
hey,
56:00
I
56:00
want
56:00
to
56:00
know
56:00
what
56:00
you
56:00
think
56:01
about
56:01
this.
56:02
And
56:02
I
56:02
imagine
56:03
that
56:03
being
56:03
very
56:03
humbling.
56:04
Like,
56:05
even
56:05
though
56:05
y'
56:06
all
56:06
disagree
56:06
on
56:06
a
56:06
lot
56:06
of
56:06
stuff,
56:07
it
56:07
would
56:07
be
56:07
like,
56:08
oh,
56:08
wait,
56:09
what?
56:10
He
56:10
wants
56:11
my
56:11
honest
56:11
opinion
56:11
on
56:11
this,
56:12
I
56:12
better
56:12
give
56:12
it
56:12
to
56:12
him.
56:13
Yeah,
56:15
I
56:15
think
56:16
one,
56:16
I
56:16
gotta,
56:16
like,
56:17
credit
56:17
where
56:18
credit's
56:18
due.
56:18
I
56:18
think
56:19
Christian's
56:19
probably
56:19
right.
56:20
If
56:20
there
56:20
were
56:21
multiple
56:21
Jesuses
56:21
and
56:21
thus
56:22
with
56:22
multiple
56:22
Bibles,
56:23
then
56:23
figuring
56:23
out
56:23
which
56:24
passages
56:24
apply
56:24
and
56:24
don't
56:25
apply
56:25
probably
56:25
would
56:26
be
56:26
the
56:26
most
56:26
difficult
56:27
part.
56:30
It's
56:30
also
56:30
why
56:30
I
56:31
love,
56:31
even
56:31
though
56:32
I'm
56:32
not
56:32
on
56:32
board
56:32
fully,
56:33
I
56:33
love
56:33
that
56:33
the
56:34
Orthodox
56:34
are
56:34
like,
56:34
hey,
56:34
the
56:35
main
56:35
authority
56:35
isn't
56:36
actually
56:36
some
56:36
guy
56:36
in
56:37
Rome,
56:37
and
56:37
it's
56:37
not
56:38
the
56:38
church
56:39
and
56:39
it's
56:39
not
56:39
the
56:39
Bible,
56:40
it's
56:40
the
56:40
spirit.
56:42
And
56:42
yes,
56:42
that's
56:42
a
56:42
cop
56:43
out.
56:43
But
56:43
I
56:43
think
56:43
if
56:44
you
56:44
really
56:44
believe
56:44
the
56:45
thing,
56:46
it
56:46
makes
56:46
sense.
56:49
So
56:49
kind
56:50
of,
56:50
you
56:50
know,
56:50
put
56:50
that
56:50
one
56:51
out
56:51
there.
56:52
I
56:53
don't
56:53
know.
56:53
I
56:53
think
56:54
to
56:54
me,
56:54
and
56:55
I'm
56:55
going
56:55
to
56:55
give
56:55
a
56:55
cop
56:55
out
56:56
answer
56:56
here.
56:57
Most
56:57
sci
56:57
fi
56:57
things,
56:57
when
56:58
you
56:58
have
56:58
other
56:58
alien
56:58
species,
56:59
it
56:59
just
56:59
feels
57:00
like
57:00
really
57:00
exaggerated
57:01
versions
57:01
of
57:01
what
57:01
we're
57:01
already
57:02
dealing
57:02
with.
57:03
You
57:03
know,
57:03
like,
57:03
oh,
57:04
this
57:04
is
57:04
the
57:04
species
57:04
that
57:06
likes
57:06
war
57:06
better
57:06
than
57:07
not
57:07
war.
57:07
And
57:07
this
57:07
is
57:07
a
57:07
species
57:08
that's
57:08
like
57:08
all
57:08
nerds.
57:10
And
57:10
I'm
57:10
like,
57:10
well,
57:11
you
57:11
know,
57:12
even
57:12
like,
57:13
sorry,
57:13
I
57:13
love
57:13
Star
57:14
Wars.
57:14
But
57:14
even
57:14
like
57:15
when
57:15
you
57:15
go
57:15
see
57:15
other
57:15
planet,
57:16
it's
57:16
like,
57:16
wow,
57:16
that
57:16
plane
57:16
is
57:17
so
57:17
different
57:17
than
57:17
mine.
57:17
I'm
57:17
like,
57:17
well,
57:17
actually,
57:18
you
57:18
know,
57:18
if
57:18
you
57:18
just
57:18
kind
57:18
of
57:19
flew
57:19
to
57:19
a
57:20
different
57:20
part
57:20
of
57:20
this
57:20
world,
57:20
it
57:21
does
57:21
look
57:21
pretty
57:22
vastly
57:23
different
57:23
in
57:23
a
57:23
lot
57:23
of
57:23
the
57:24
same
57:24
ways.
57:24
It's
57:24
actually
57:24
hard
57:25
to
57:25
create
57:25
something
57:25
that's
57:26
truly
57:26
alien.
57:27
That's
57:28
my
57:28
critique
57:28
of
57:29
all
57:29
sci
57:29
fi,
57:30
just
57:30
in
57:30
general.
57:31
But
57:31
I
57:31
think
57:32
it's
57:32
helpful
57:33
because
57:33
it
57:33
allows
57:34
us
57:34
then
57:34
to
57:34
think
57:34
about,
57:34
wait
57:34
a
57:34
minute,
57:35
this
57:35
does
57:35
exist.
57:36
It
57:36
does
57:36
exist.
57:36
Where?
57:37
Like
57:37
in
57:37
our
57:37
local
57:37
church,
57:38
there
57:38
are
57:38
some
57:38
people
57:38
who
57:39
are
57:39
more
57:39
primed
57:40
to
57:40
be
57:40
aggressive.
57:41
There
57:41
are
57:41
some
57:41
people
57:41
who
57:41
are
57:41
more
57:42
primed
57:42
to
57:42
care
57:42
about
57:43
the
57:43
intellectual
57:43
parts,
57:44
who
57:44
are
57:44
more
57:44
primed
57:45
to
57:45
care
57:45
about
57:45
the
57:45
emotional
57:45
spiritual
57:46
parts,
57:47
etc.
57:48
There
57:49
probably
57:49
is
57:50
some
57:50
churches
57:50
where
57:51
people
57:51
are
57:52
so
57:52
allergic
57:53
to
57:53
gluten
57:53
that
57:53
they
57:54
have
57:54
to
57:54
make
57:54
those
57:54
Accommodations
57:55
with
57:55
communion
57:56
and
57:56
go,
57:56
wait
57:56
a
57:56
minute,
57:56
I
57:56
actually
57:57
have
57:57
to
57:57
do
57:57
communion
57:57
different
57:58
because
57:58
some
57:58
people
57:59
can't
57:59
take
57:59
this.
58:01
You
58:01
know,
58:01
my
58:01
church
58:02
will
58:03
love
58:03
will
58:04
they
58:04
have
58:04
like
58:04
gluten
58:05
free
58:05
option.
58:05
They
58:05
have
58:05
a
58:05
non
58:05
alcoholic
58:06
wine
58:06
for
58:07
those
58:07
who
58:07
don't
58:08
want
58:08
to
58:08
participate
58:08
in
58:08
that
58:08
thing.
58:08
And
58:09
I
58:09
think
58:09
that's
58:09
important
58:10
that
58:10
we
58:10
think
58:10
about
58:10
ways
58:11
to
58:11
accommodate.
58:13
If
58:13
your
58:13
church
58:13
has
58:14
handicapped
58:14
people,
58:15
you
58:15
need
58:15
to
58:15
think
58:15
about
58:15
ways
58:16
to
58:16
accommodate
58:16
the
58:17
handicapped
58:17
people
58:17
in
58:17
your
58:17
area.
58:18
If
58:18
you
58:18
have
58:18
people
58:18
with
58:19
learning
58:19
disabilities,
58:20
you
58:20
have
58:20
to
58:21
consider
58:21
that
58:21
like,
58:21
I
58:21
think
58:21
all
58:22
this
58:22
stuff
58:22
is
58:22
actually
58:22
real
58:23
problems.
58:25
And
58:25
I
58:25
also,
58:27
I
58:27
said
58:27
I
58:27
like
58:27
the
58:27
structure.
58:28
I
58:28
love
58:28
the
58:28
Lutheran
58:29
church.
58:29
And
58:29
now
58:29
I'm
58:29
going
58:29
to
58:29
contradict
58:30
myself.
58:31
I
58:31
still
58:31
think
58:31
the
58:32
best
58:32
model
58:32
was
58:32
the
58:32
early
58:33
church
58:33
where
58:34
we're
58:34
all
58:34
gathering
58:35
together.
58:35
And
58:36
TJ's
58:36
the
58:36
intellectual
58:37
and
58:37
he
58:37
spent
58:37
all
58:37
this
58:38
time
58:38
studying.
58:38
So
58:38
let's
58:39
let
58:39
him
58:39
share
58:39
his
58:39
gift
58:39
with
58:40
you.
58:40
And
58:40
hey,
58:40
I'm
58:40
the
58:41
one
58:41
who's
58:41
maybe
58:42
don't
58:42
study
58:42
as
58:43
much,
58:43
but
58:43
I'm
58:43
a
58:43
really
58:43
good
58:44
empathetic.
58:45
Have
58:45
a
58:45
good
58:45
gift
58:46
of
58:46
empathy.
58:46
Perhaps
58:47
I
58:47
don't
58:47
think
58:47
I
58:47
do,
58:48
but
58:48
in
58:48
this
58:48
example
58:48
I
58:49
do.
58:50
So
58:50
I'm
58:50
there
58:50
for
58:50
Christian
58:51
and
58:51
tj
58:51
so
58:51
they
58:52
can
58:52
talk
58:52
to
58:52
me
58:52
because
58:52
they
58:52
feel
58:52
more
58:53
comfortable.
58:53
And
58:53
Christian's
58:54
gonna
58:54
be
58:54
the
58:54
one
58:55
who's
58:55
a
58:55
really
58:55
good
58:55
speaker,
58:56
so
58:56
he
58:56
might
58:56
be
58:57
the
58:57
one
58:57
giving
58:57
the
58:57
speech
58:58
at
58:58
the
58:58
time
58:58
and
58:59
our
59:00
other
59:00
friend
59:00
might
59:00
be
59:00
the
59:00
musician.
59:01
And
59:01
like
59:01
we
59:01
all
59:01
take
59:02
turns
59:02
sharing
59:02
our
59:02
gift
59:03
because
59:03
that's
59:03
like
59:03
what
59:03
the
59:04
church
59:04
is
59:04
supposed
59:04
to
59:04
be
59:04
anyway.
59:06
And
59:06
so
59:06
sometimes
59:06
I
59:06
think
59:07
we're
59:07
a
59:07
little
59:07
too
59:07
structured
59:08
and
59:08
we
59:08
need
59:08
to
59:08
take
59:09
a
59:09
page
59:09
from
59:09
the
59:09
Pentecostals
59:10
and
59:10
let
59:10
the
59:10
spirit
59:10
lead
59:11
sometimes
59:11
and
59:11
let
59:11
everyone
59:12
share
59:12
their
59:12
gift.
59:13
But
59:14
the
59:14
church
59:14
has
59:14
gotten
59:15
really
59:15
big
59:15
and
59:15
that
59:15
makes
59:16
that
59:16
kind
59:16
of
59:16
thing
59:16
really
59:17
hard
59:17
to
59:17
do.
59:18
And
59:18
that's
59:18
why
59:18
I
59:18
still
59:18
like
59:19
the
59:19
structure.
59:19
But
59:19
I'm
59:20
gonna
59:20
just
59:20
contradict
59:21
myself.
59:21
I
59:21
think
59:21
the
59:22
early
59:22
church
59:22
was
59:22
right,
59:22
but
59:22
I
59:23
also
59:23
love
59:23
the
59:23
structure
59:23
in
59:24
the
59:24
elca
59:24
and
59:24
I
59:24
think
59:25
it's
59:25
important
59:25
to
59:25
have
59:25
that.
59:26
I
59:27
don't
59:27
have
59:27
a
59:27
good
59:27
answer
59:27
of
59:27
how
59:28
to
59:28
do
59:28
both.
59:28
Just
59:29
do
59:29
it.
59:29
Maybe
59:29
it's
59:30
small
59:30
groups.
59:30
Maybe
59:30
small
59:30
groups
59:31
is
59:31
the
59:31
answer.
59:31
Small
59:32
groups.
59:32
Yep.
59:32
No
59:32
more
59:33
big
59:33
church.
59:34
Yeah.
59:34
Yep.
59:36
Is
59:36
there
59:36
anything
59:37
else
59:37
that
59:37
we
59:38
should
59:38
discuss
59:39
for
59:39
church
59:39
unity
59:40
that
59:40
we
59:40
can
59:40
learn
59:40
from
59:41
Mass
59:41
Effect?
59:42
I
59:42
think
59:42
it's
59:42
the
59:42
sound,
59:43
the
59:43
endings
59:43
presented.
59:44
Destroy
59:44
is
59:44
the
59:44
best
59:45
option.
59:47
I
59:48
would
59:48
say.
59:48
The
59:48
soundtrack.
59:49
If
59:49
the.
59:49
If
59:49
every
59:50
church
59:50
had
59:50
a
59:50
soundtrack
59:51
as
59:51
good
59:51
as
59:51
Mass
59:51
Effect
59:52
1,
59:52
2,
59:52
and
59:52
3,
59:53
there'd
59:54
never
59:54
be
59:54
a
59:54
problem.
59:56
I
59:56
think
59:57
solid
59:57
one.
59:58
A
59:58
lot
59:58
of
59:58
Our
59:59
pastors
59:59
can
59:59
learn
1:00:00
from
1:00:00
Commander
1:00:00
Shepard.
1:00:02
She
1:00:02
had
1:00:02
people
1:00:03
who
1:00:03
were,
1:00:04
I
1:00:04
won't
1:00:04
say
1:00:04
racist
1:00:05
against
1:00:05
other
1:00:05
species
1:00:05
on
1:00:05
her
1:00:06
ship,
1:00:06
as
1:00:06
well
1:00:06
as
1:00:07
a
1:00:07
lot
1:00:07
of
1:00:07
people
1:00:07
from
1:00:07
other
1:00:07
species
1:00:08
with
1:00:08
wildly
1:00:09
different
1:00:09
beliefs.
1:00:10
Seemingly
1:00:11
got
1:00:11
them
1:00:11
to
1:00:11
work
1:00:11
pretty
1:00:12
good
1:00:12
together,
1:00:12
except
1:00:12
for
1:00:13
on
1:00:13
a
1:00:13
couple
1:00:13
occasions.
1:00:14
Well,
1:00:14
that
1:00:14
was
1:00:15
awful.
1:00:15
It
1:00:16
is
1:00:16
a
1:00:16
little
1:00:16
bit
1:00:16
easier
1:00:17
when
1:00:17
you
1:00:17
can
1:00:17
be
1:00:18
like,
1:00:18
hey,
1:00:19
do
1:00:19
what
1:00:19
I
1:00:19
say
1:00:20
or
1:00:20
you're
1:00:20
getting
1:00:20
court
1:00:20
martialed.
1:00:24
Yeah,
1:00:24
yeah,
1:00:24
that
1:00:24
too.
1:00:25
But,
1:00:25
you
1:00:25
know,
1:00:25
I.
1:00:26
I
1:00:26
think
1:00:26
there's
1:00:26
something
1:00:27
about
1:00:28
more
1:00:28
intimate
1:00:28
teams
1:00:29
and
1:00:29
maybe
1:00:29
I'm
1:00:29
just
1:00:30
going
1:00:30
back
1:00:30
to
1:00:30
small
1:00:30
groups
1:00:30
again.
1:00:31
I
1:00:32
think
1:00:32
I
1:00:32
am.
1:00:33
Something
1:00:33
about
1:00:34
just
1:00:34
like
1:00:34
intimate
1:00:34
teams
1:00:35
having
1:00:35
a
1:00:35
common
1:00:35
mission.
1:00:36
You
1:00:36
know,
1:00:37
even
1:00:37
on
1:00:37
the,
1:00:37
like
1:00:37
the
1:00:38
little
1:00:38
levels
1:00:38
where
1:00:38
it's
1:00:39
like.
1:00:39
And
1:00:40
that's
1:00:40
one
1:00:40
thing
1:00:40
I
1:00:40
loved
1:00:40
about
1:00:41
the
1:00:41
games
1:00:41
is
1:00:41
like,
1:00:41
depending
1:00:42
on
1:00:42
you
1:00:42
choose
1:00:42
two
1:00:42
people
1:00:43
to
1:00:43
go
1:00:43
with
1:00:43
you
1:00:43
for
1:00:43
each
1:00:43
mission,
1:00:44
depending
1:00:44
which
1:00:44
two
1:00:45
changes
1:00:46
the
1:00:46
dialogue
1:00:46
of
1:00:46
the
1:00:46
level.
1:00:47
And
1:00:47
I'm
1:00:47
like,
1:00:47
yeah,
1:00:48
it's
1:00:48
kind
1:00:48
of
1:00:48
fun.
1:00:49
I
1:00:49
should
1:00:49
not
1:00:50
have
1:00:50
Ashley
1:00:51
on
1:00:51
there
1:00:51
ever,
1:00:51
because
1:00:52
she
1:00:52
always
1:00:52
makes
1:00:52
the
1:00:52
dialogue
1:00:53
piss
1:00:53
me
1:00:53
off.
1:00:55
Well,
1:00:55
there's
1:00:55
something
1:00:55
big
1:00:56
in
1:00:56
what
1:00:56
you
1:00:56
said
1:00:56
besides
1:00:57
your
1:00:57
irrational
1:00:57
hatred
1:00:57
of
1:00:58
Ashley,
1:00:58
in
1:00:59
that.
1:00:59
Oh,
1:00:59
no,
1:00:59
it's
1:00:59
rational.
1:01:00
What?
1:01:00
What?
1:01:01
Absolutely
1:01:01
not.
1:01:02
What
1:01:02
Shepard
1:01:03
does.
1:01:03
Well,
1:01:04
is
1:01:04
he
1:01:05
or
1:01:05
she,
1:01:05
depending
1:01:05
on
1:01:05
you,
1:01:06
can
1:01:06
choose
1:01:06
between
1:01:06
either
1:01:07
male
1:01:07
shepherd
1:01:07
or
1:01:07
female
1:01:08
Shepherd.
1:01:09
What
1:01:09
he
1:01:10
does
1:01:10
is
1:01:10
he
1:01:11
identifies
1:01:11
people
1:01:11
who
1:01:12
are
1:01:12
willing
1:01:12
to
1:01:12
solve
1:01:13
a
1:01:13
problem
1:01:14
and
1:01:14
adds
1:01:14
to
1:01:14
them
1:01:15
on
1:01:15
the
1:01:15
team
1:01:15
to
1:01:16
solve
1:01:16
problems.
1:01:17
Like
1:01:17
Katie.
1:01:17
That
1:01:17
doesn't
1:01:18
mean.
1:01:19
Yes.
1:01:19
Yeah,
1:01:20
sure.
1:01:21
And
1:01:21
then
1:01:21
works
1:01:22
with
1:01:22
them,
1:01:23
learns
1:01:23
about
1:01:23
who
1:01:23
they
1:01:24
are,
1:01:24
gets
1:01:25
things
1:01:25
done
1:01:25
with
1:01:25
them
1:01:25
to
1:01:26
establish
1:01:26
a
1:01:26
relationship
1:01:27
with
1:01:27
them,
1:01:28
which
1:01:28
then
1:01:28
inspires
1:01:29
other
1:01:29
people
1:01:29
who
1:01:30
might
1:01:30
not
1:01:30
have
1:01:30
normally
1:01:31
joined
1:01:31
such
1:01:31
a
1:01:31
team
1:01:32
to
1:01:32
go,
1:01:32
oh,
1:01:33
they
1:01:33
got
1:01:33
something
1:01:34
done.
1:01:34
Because
1:01:34
he
1:01:34
was
1:01:35
willing
1:01:35
to
1:01:35
do
1:01:35
something
1:01:35
about
1:01:35
it.
1:01:36
I
1:01:36
want
1:01:36
to
1:01:36
do
1:01:36
something.
1:01:37
I
1:01:37
don't
1:01:37
know
1:01:37
if
1:01:37
I
1:01:37
have
1:01:37
confidence.
1:01:38
Well,
1:01:38
maybe
1:01:38
if
1:01:38
I
1:01:38
join
1:01:38
them,
1:01:39
I
1:01:39
can.
1:01:39
And
1:01:39
that's
1:01:40
how
1:01:40
we
1:01:40
get
1:01:40
some
1:01:40
of
1:01:40
the
1:01:41
good
1:01:41
relationships
1:01:41
we
1:01:41
get
1:01:41
later
1:01:42
on
1:01:42
in
1:01:42
the
1:01:42
series
1:01:42
and
1:01:42
other
1:01:43
species
1:01:43
working
1:01:43
together
1:01:43
is
1:01:44
that
1:01:44
it
1:01:44
started
1:01:44
with
1:01:44
individuals
1:01:46
and
1:01:46
then
1:01:46
moved
1:01:47
on
1:01:47
to,
1:01:48
I
1:01:48
want
1:01:48
to
1:01:49
say
1:01:49
the
1:01:49
word
1:01:49
congregation.
1:01:50
That's
1:01:50
wrong,
1:01:50
but
1:01:50
it's
1:01:51
right
1:01:51
if
1:01:51
it's
1:01:51
for
1:01:52
this.
1:01:53
Yeah,
1:01:54
yeah.
1:01:55
And
1:01:55
I
1:01:55
mean,
1:01:55
I
1:01:55
like
1:01:55
that
1:01:56
too.
1:01:56
And
1:01:56
I
1:01:56
do
1:01:56
love,
1:01:56
like
1:01:57
the
1:01:57
times
1:01:57
in
1:01:57
between
1:01:57
missions
1:01:58
where
1:01:58
you're
1:01:58
just
1:01:58
on
1:01:59
the
1:01:59
ship
1:01:59
and
1:01:59
you
1:01:59
can
1:01:59
just
1:01:59
go
1:02:00
talk
1:02:00
to
1:02:00
these
1:02:00
people
1:02:00
you've
1:02:01
recruited
1:02:01
or
1:02:01
who
1:02:01
are
1:02:02
on
1:02:02
your
1:02:02
ship
1:02:02
and
1:02:02
get
1:02:02
to
1:02:02
know
1:02:02
them
1:02:03
better.
1:02:03
And
1:02:04
I
1:02:04
like
1:02:04
that.
1:02:04
Actually
1:02:05
has
1:02:05
real
1:02:05
implications
1:02:06
for
1:02:06
the
1:02:06
leveling
1:02:06
system
1:02:07
and
1:02:07
the
1:02:07
story.
1:02:08
It's
1:02:08
kind
1:02:09
of
1:02:09
cool.
1:02:09
Just
1:02:09
cool
1:02:10
in
1:02:10
general
1:02:10
games.
1:02:11
Really
1:02:11
well
1:02:11
done.
1:02:11
People
1:02:11
should
1:02:12
play
1:02:12
Mass
1:02:12
Effect.
1:02:13
Yeah,
1:02:13
there
1:02:13
you
1:02:13
go.
1:02:14
So
1:02:14
one
1:02:14
last
1:02:14
Thing
1:02:15
we
1:02:15
like
1:02:15
to
1:02:15
do
1:02:15
before
1:02:16
wrapping
1:02:16
up
1:02:16
on
1:02:17
this
1:02:17
show,
1:02:18
Whole
1:02:18
Church
1:02:18
podcast,
1:02:19
in
1:02:19
case
1:02:19
you
1:02:19
forgot
1:02:19
and
1:02:19
thought
1:02:19
this
1:02:19
was
1:02:20
his
1:02:20
Mac
1:02:20
Ecology.
1:02:20
It's
1:02:21
not.
1:02:22
We
1:02:22
like
1:02:23
to
1:02:23
ask
1:02:23
people,
1:02:23
if
1:02:23
you
1:02:24
had
1:02:24
to
1:02:24
or
1:02:25
could
1:02:25
provide
1:02:25
a
1:02:26
single
1:02:26
tangible
1:02:27
action,
1:02:27
something
1:02:28
our
1:02:28
listeners
1:02:28
could
1:02:28
go
1:02:29
do,
1:02:29
they'll
1:02:29
help
1:02:29
better
1:02:29
engender
1:02:30
Christian
1:02:30
unity
1:02:30
in
1:02:31
the
1:02:31
church.
1:02:31
Church,
1:02:32
you
1:02:32
can
1:02:32
cop
1:02:32
out
1:02:32
and
1:02:32
say,
1:02:33
play
1:02:33
Mass
1:02:33
effect
1:02:33
if
1:02:34
you
1:02:34
want,
1:02:34
but
1:02:35
Christian,
1:02:35
what
1:02:35
is
1:02:36
one
1:02:36
thing
1:02:36
you
1:02:36
think
1:02:37
people
1:02:37
could
1:02:37
do
1:02:37
that
1:02:37
would
1:02:37
help
1:02:38
just
1:02:39
us
1:02:39
have
1:02:39
more
1:02:40
unity
1:02:40
within
1:02:40
the
1:02:41
church
1:02:41
today?
1:02:41
I'd
1:02:42
say
1:02:42
that.
1:02:42
I
1:02:43
mean,
1:02:43
that
1:02:43
same
1:02:43
principle
1:02:44
I
1:02:44
just
1:02:44
talked
1:02:44
about
1:02:44
applies.
1:02:45
Like,
1:02:46
identify
1:02:46
people
1:02:47
in
1:02:47
the
1:02:47
church
1:02:47
who
1:02:48
are
1:02:48
willing
1:02:48
to
1:02:48
get
1:02:48
stuff
1:02:49
done,
1:02:50
help
1:02:50
them
1:02:50
as
1:02:51
best
1:02:51
as
1:02:51
possible,
1:02:51
and
1:02:52
if
1:02:52
you
1:02:52
can't
1:02:52
do
1:02:52
it,
1:02:53
find
1:02:53
someone
1:02:53
who
1:02:53
can
1:02:53
help
1:02:54
them
1:02:54
help.
1:02:54
Like
1:02:55
if
1:02:55
there's
1:02:56
someone
1:02:56
who's
1:02:56
really
1:02:56
good
1:02:57
and
1:02:57
what
1:02:58
would
1:02:58
be
1:02:58
good
1:02:58
in
1:02:58
children's
1:02:59
ministry
1:02:59
but
1:02:59
they
1:02:59
don't
1:02:59
have
1:02:59
the
1:02:59
confidence,
1:03:00
help
1:03:00
build
1:03:00
them
1:03:01
up.
1:03:01
Give
1:03:01
them
1:03:01
moments
1:03:02
where
1:03:02
they
1:03:02
can
1:03:02
prove
1:03:02
themselves.
1:03:03
Or
1:03:03
if
1:03:03
you
1:03:03
have
1:03:03
someone
1:03:04
in
1:03:04
your
1:03:04
church
1:03:04
who
1:03:05
is.
1:03:05
Maybe
1:03:05
they
1:03:06
do
1:03:06
have
1:03:06
a
1:03:06
gift
1:03:06
of
1:03:06
preaching
1:03:07
well,
1:03:07
spend
1:03:08
time
1:03:08
with
1:03:08
them.
1:03:08
See
1:03:08
if
1:03:09
it's
1:03:09
true.
1:03:09
Then
1:03:10
maybe
1:03:10
pastor,
1:03:10
step
1:03:11
down
1:03:11
for
1:03:11
one
1:03:11
Sunday
1:03:12
and
1:03:12
let
1:03:12
them
1:03:12
speak
1:03:12
instead.
1:03:13
Like,
1:03:14
find
1:03:14
where
1:03:14
people
1:03:15
are
1:03:15
good
1:03:15
at
1:03:15
and
1:03:16
help
1:03:16
them
1:03:16
get
1:03:16
to
1:03:16
where
1:03:17
they
1:03:17
need
1:03:17
to
1:03:17
be.
1:03:17
Be
1:03:18
a
1:03:18
good
1:03:18
shepherd.
1:03:19
And
1:03:19
what
1:03:20
would
1:03:20
change
1:03:20
in
1:03:21
the
1:03:21
world
1:03:21
if
1:03:21
we
1:03:22
did
1:03:22
that?
1:03:23
I
1:03:23
mean,
1:03:24
more
1:03:24
problems
1:03:25
get
1:03:25
solved.
1:03:25
I
1:03:25
mean,
1:03:26
it's
1:03:26
just
1:03:26
not
1:03:26
going
1:03:26
to
1:03:26
solve
1:03:26
every
1:03:27
single
1:03:27
problem
1:03:27
that
1:03:27
the
1:03:27
church
1:03:28
encounters.
1:03:28
But
1:03:29
the
1:03:29
fewer
1:03:29
problems
1:03:29
the
1:03:30
church
1:03:30
has,
1:03:30
the
1:03:30
easier
1:03:31
it
1:03:31
is
1:03:31
to
1:03:31
get
1:03:31
things
1:03:32
done,
1:03:32
the
1:03:32
less
1:03:32
hurdles
1:03:32
we
1:03:33
have
1:03:33
to
1:03:33
jump
1:03:33
over.
1:03:33
So
1:03:34
why
1:03:34
not
1:03:34
make
1:03:34
things
1:03:34
easier
1:03:35
by
1:03:35
yourself
1:03:35
by
1:03:35
doing
1:03:36
the
1:03:36
work?
1:03:36
Yeah.
1:03:37
Yeah.
1:03:37
I
1:03:37
just
1:03:38
want
1:03:38
to
1:03:38
reiterate.
1:03:39
Church
1:03:40
is
1:03:40
a
1:03:40
participatory
1:03:41
relationship.
1:03:42
If
1:03:42
you're
1:03:43
not
1:03:43
participating,
1:03:43
you're
1:03:44
not
1:03:44
in
1:03:44
relationship.
1:03:45
You
1:03:45
just
1:03:45
went
1:03:45
to
1:03:46
a
1:03:46
building
1:03:46
and
1:03:46
sung
1:03:46
some
1:03:47
emotional
1:03:47
music.
1:03:48
Church
1:03:49
is
1:03:49
the
1:03:49
people,
1:03:49
and
1:03:49
we
1:03:50
have
1:03:50
to
1:03:50
be
1:03:50
in
1:03:50
a
1:03:50
relationship.
1:03:50
We
1:03:51
have
1:03:51
to
1:03:51
be
1:03:51
doing
1:03:51
something.
1:03:51
Like
1:03:51
if
1:03:52
it's
1:03:52
just
1:03:52
one
1:03:52
guy
1:03:52
speaking
1:03:53
or
1:03:53
a
1:03:53
couple
1:03:53
people
1:03:53
singing,
1:03:55
that's
1:03:55
a
1:03:55
performance.
1:03:55
It's
1:03:56
not
1:03:56
church.
1:03:57
Mm.
1:03:57
Mm.
1:03:58
That's
1:03:59
why
1:03:59
I
1:03:59
like
1:03:59
small
1:03:59
group
1:03:59
idea.
1:04:00
Yeah.
1:04:00
That
1:04:00
TJ
1:04:01
had
1:04:01
in
1:04:01
this
1:04:01
episode
1:04:02
that
1:04:02
I
1:04:02
had.
1:04:02
That
1:04:03
was
1:04:03
me.
1:04:03
Yeah.
1:04:03
He
1:04:04
originated
1:04:04
small
1:04:05
groups
1:04:05
during
1:04:05
this
1:04:06
recording.
1:04:07
So
1:04:08
before
1:04:09
we
1:04:09
wrap
1:04:09
up,
1:04:09
we
1:04:10
like
1:04:10
to
1:04:10
do
1:04:10
a
1:04:10
little
1:04:10
thing.
1:04:11
I
1:04:11
don't
1:04:11
know
1:04:11
if
1:04:11
you've
1:04:11
ever
1:04:12
heard
1:04:12
of
1:04:12
it,
1:04:13
Christian.
1:04:14
We
1:04:15
call
1:04:15
it
1:04:15
our
1:04:15
God
1:04:15
moment.
1:04:17
First
1:04:17
time
1:04:17
caller.
1:04:18
Yeah,
1:04:19
we
1:04:19
call
1:04:19
it
1:04:19
a
1:04:20
God
1:04:20
moment.
1:04:20
We
1:04:20
just
1:04:20
ask
1:04:20
where
1:04:20
you
1:04:21
seen
1:04:21
God
1:04:21
recently
1:04:22
in
1:04:22
your
1:04:22
life.
1:04:22
Whether
1:04:22
it
1:04:23
be
1:04:23
a
1:04:23
blessing
1:04:23
and
1:04:23
challenge
1:04:23
moment
1:04:24
of
1:04:24
worship,
1:04:24
whatever
1:04:24
it
1:04:25
may
1:04:25
be.
1:04:25
I
1:04:25
always
1:04:26
make
1:04:26
Joshua
1:04:26
go
1:04:27
first.
1:04:27
To
1:04:28
give
1:04:28
the
1:04:28
rest
1:04:28
of
1:04:28
us
1:04:28
enough
1:04:29
time
1:04:29
to
1:04:29
come
1:04:29
up
1:04:29
with
1:04:29
our
1:04:29
God
1:04:30
moment
1:04:30
or
1:04:30
moments.
1:04:32
Yeah,
1:04:32
well,
1:04:33
mine's
1:04:33
gonna
1:04:33
be
1:04:33
how
1:04:34
I.
1:04:35
I
1:04:35
didn't
1:04:36
follow
1:04:36
through
1:04:36
with
1:04:36
some
1:04:37
made
1:04:37
up
1:04:37
rule
1:04:37
I
1:04:37
gave
1:04:37
myself.
1:04:39
Yes.
1:04:39
I
1:04:40
was
1:04:41
waiting
1:04:41
for
1:04:41
Memorial
1:04:41
Day
1:04:42
for
1:04:42
it
1:04:42
to
1:04:42
officially
1:04:42
be
1:04:42
summer,
1:04:43
to
1:04:43
do
1:04:43
summer
1:04:43
things
1:04:44
that
1:04:44
I
1:04:44
like.
1:04:44
That
1:04:45
way
1:04:45
I'm
1:04:45
like,
1:04:45
really
1:04:45
in
1:04:46
the
1:04:46
season.
1:04:46
It's
1:04:47
been
1:04:47
80
1:04:47
degrees
1:04:48
a
1:04:49
lot
1:04:49
of
1:04:49
days
1:04:49
recently.
1:04:49
Not
1:04:50
today.
1:04:50
It
1:04:50
was
1:04:50
cold
1:04:50
today,
1:04:51
unfortunately,
1:04:51
because
1:04:51
it's
1:04:51
my
1:04:51
day
1:04:52
off.
1:04:53
But
1:04:53
my
1:04:54
wife
1:04:54
got
1:04:55
a
1:04:55
grill
1:04:55
while
1:04:55
I
1:04:55
was
1:04:55
at
1:04:55
work.
1:04:56
One
1:04:56
day
1:04:57
I
1:04:57
came
1:04:57
home
1:04:57
and
1:04:58
she
1:04:58
got
1:04:58
stuff
1:04:58
for
1:04:58
me
1:04:58
to
1:04:59
make
1:04:59
my
1:04:59
orange
1:04:59
aid
1:04:59
that
1:04:59
I
1:05:00
make
1:05:00
during
1:05:00
the
1:05:00
summer.
1:05:00
My
1:05:00
mind
1:05:01
was
1:05:01
like
1:05:01
Labor
1:05:01
Day
1:05:01
to
1:05:02
Memorial
1:05:02
Day,
1:05:02
sweet
1:05:02
tea,
1:05:03
then
1:05:03
Memorial
1:05:03
Day
1:05:04
to
1:05:04
Labor
1:05:04
Day.
1:05:04
I'm
1:05:04
gonna
1:05:04
do
1:05:04
my
1:05:05
orange
1:05:05
aid
1:05:05
again
1:05:05
because
1:05:05
I
1:05:05
love
1:05:06
orange.
1:05:07
Like,
1:05:07
nope.
1:05:07
All
1:05:08
right.
1:05:08
Making
1:05:09
some
1:05:09
orangeade,
1:05:09
gonna
1:05:10
grill
1:05:10
out,
1:05:10
have
1:05:11
some
1:05:11
burgers,
1:05:12
even
1:05:12
got
1:05:13
some
1:05:13
Malibu
1:05:14
and
1:05:14
white
1:05:14
Monster.
1:05:15
And
1:05:15
I
1:05:15
was
1:05:15
like,
1:05:15
you
1:05:15
know
1:05:15
what?
1:05:16
I'm
1:05:16
just
1:05:16
gonna
1:05:16
act
1:05:16
like
1:05:16
it's
1:05:16
summer
1:05:17
for
1:05:17
a
1:05:17
little
1:05:17
bit
1:05:17
and
1:05:20
just
1:05:21
let
1:05:21
myself
1:05:22
experience
1:05:22
it
1:05:23
and
1:05:23
just
1:05:23
not
1:05:24
adhere
1:05:24
to
1:05:24
some
1:05:25
random
1:05:25
made
1:05:25
up
1:05:25
thing
1:05:26
I
1:05:26
gave
1:05:26
myself.
1:05:27
And
1:05:27
it
1:05:27
just
1:05:28
filled
1:05:28
me
1:05:28
with
1:05:28
a
1:05:28
lot
1:05:28
of
1:05:28
joy.
1:05:28
And
1:05:29
I
1:05:29
was
1:05:29
like,
1:05:29
oh,
1:05:29
man.
1:05:30
Yeah,
1:05:30
I'm
1:05:30
ready
1:05:30
for
1:05:31
the
1:05:31
warmer
1:05:31
weather.
1:05:31
And
1:05:32
just
1:05:32
that
1:05:32
little
1:05:32
bit
1:05:33
of
1:05:33
joy,
1:05:33
that's
1:05:33
my
1:05:34
God
1:05:34
moment.
1:05:34
I
1:05:34
needed
1:05:34
that
1:05:36
to
1:05:36
be
1:05:36
surprised
1:05:37
by
1:05:37
joy.
1:05:37
That's
1:05:38
my
1:05:38
obligatory
1:05:38
C.S.
1:05:38
lewis
1:05:39
reference
1:05:39
of
1:05:39
the
1:05:39
episode.
1:05:40
Contract
1:05:40
withheld.
1:05:42
And
1:05:43
for
1:05:43
our
1:05:43
bonus
1:05:44
content
1:05:44
for
1:05:44
today's
1:05:45
episode,
1:05:45
we
1:05:46
three
1:05:46
are
1:05:46
going
1:05:47
to
1:05:47
rank
1:05:47
the
1:05:47
different
1:05:47
types
1:05:48
of
1:05:48
aids.
1:05:49
A,
1:05:49
D,
1:05:49
E,
1:05:50
S,
1:05:51
orange,
1:05:51
lime,
1:05:52
lemon,
1:05:53
whatever.
1:05:53
Really
1:05:53
concerned
1:05:54
with
1:05:54
what
1:05:54
you
1:05:54
meant
1:05:54
by
1:05:55
that.
1:05:56
I
1:05:56
don't
1:05:56
know
1:05:56
about
1:05:56
that.
1:05:57
Not
1:05:57
the
1:05:57
other
1:05:57
thing,
1:05:59
but
1:05:59
for
1:05:59
me,
1:06:00
my
1:06:00
God
1:06:00
moment.
1:06:02
I
1:06:02
have
1:06:02
never,
1:06:02
ever
1:06:03
been
1:06:03
invited
1:06:04
on
1:06:04
as
1:06:04
many
1:06:04
vacations
1:06:05
as
1:06:05
I
1:06:06
have
1:06:06
been
1:06:06
this
1:06:06
year.
1:06:08
Yeah,
1:06:08
he
1:06:09
shut
1:06:09
me
1:06:09
down
1:06:10
and
1:06:10
I
1:06:10
was
1:06:10
gonna
1:06:10
invite
1:06:10
him
1:06:11
on
1:06:11
another
1:06:11
one,
1:06:11
so
1:06:11
I
1:06:11
guess
1:06:11
I
1:06:12
won't
1:06:12
do
1:06:12
that.
1:06:13
Yeah,
1:06:16
I
1:06:16
almost
1:06:16
got
1:06:16
double
1:06:17
booked
1:06:17
for
1:06:17
a
1:06:17
week.
1:06:18
I've
1:06:18
got
1:06:19
too
1:06:19
many
1:06:19
friends.
1:06:20
God
1:06:20
bless.
1:06:22
That's
1:06:22
it.
1:06:22
Suffering
1:06:23
from
1:06:23
success.
1:06:24
The
1:06:24
TJ
1:06:24
story.
1:06:25
The
1:06:25
art
1:06:25
of
1:06:26
the
1:06:26
deal.
1:06:28
So,
1:06:28
Christian,
1:06:29
you
1:06:29
have
1:06:29
God
1:06:30
moments
1:06:30
for
1:06:30
us
1:06:30
today.
1:06:31
It's
1:06:32
God
1:06:32
moment.
1:06:33
We
1:06:33
don't
1:06:33
cheat
1:06:34
because
1:06:34
we
1:06:34
know
1:06:34
he's
1:06:35
going
1:06:35
to
1:06:35
cheat.
1:06:35
I
1:06:36
know
1:06:36
it's
1:06:36
not
1:06:36
only
1:06:36
my
1:06:37
first
1:06:37
time
1:06:37
on
1:06:37
the
1:06:37
show,
1:06:38
but
1:06:38
I
1:06:38
feel
1:06:38
like
1:06:38
I
1:06:39
have
1:06:39
the
1:06:39
need
1:06:39
to
1:06:39
cheat.
1:06:40
I'm
1:06:40
going
1:06:41
to
1:06:41
start
1:06:41
with
1:06:41
the
1:06:41
bad
1:06:41
one
1:06:41
first.
1:06:43
That,
1:06:43
of
1:06:43
course,
1:06:44
being
1:06:46
speaking
1:06:46
of
1:06:47
scandals
1:06:48
in
1:06:48
the
1:06:49
Southern
1:06:49
Baptist
1:06:49
Church,
1:06:50
there
1:06:50
is
1:06:50
a
1:06:50
friend
1:06:50
of
1:06:51
mine
1:06:51
who
1:06:52
was
1:06:53
having
1:06:53
an
1:06:53
emotional
1:06:54
affair
1:06:54
with
1:06:54
a
1:06:54
former
1:06:55
student.
1:06:55
Not
1:06:55
while
1:06:56
she
1:06:56
was
1:06:56
a
1:06:56
student,
1:06:57
but
1:06:57
while
1:06:57
she
1:06:57
was
1:06:57
an
1:06:57
adult
1:06:58
that
1:06:58
doesn't
1:06:58
make
1:06:58
it
1:06:59
better,
1:06:59
but
1:06:59
it
1:07:00
explains
1:07:00
the
1:07:00
process.
1:07:02
And
1:07:02
it's
1:07:02
also
1:07:02
not
1:07:03
better.
1:07:04
I
1:07:04
guess
1:07:04
it's
1:07:05
better
1:07:05
in
1:07:05
that
1:07:05
nothing
1:07:05
bad
1:07:06
happened
1:07:06
physically,
1:07:06
but
1:07:07
something
1:07:07
could
1:07:07
have
1:07:07
happened
1:07:08
if
1:07:08
they
1:07:08
had
1:07:08
escalated
1:07:08
it.
1:07:09
But
1:07:09
the
1:07:09
good
1:07:09
news
1:07:09
is
1:07:10
that
1:07:10
he
1:07:10
realized
1:07:10
what
1:07:10
he
1:07:11
was
1:07:11
doing,
1:07:11
brought
1:07:12
it
1:07:12
up
1:07:12
before
1:07:13
the
1:07:13
leaders
1:07:14
of
1:07:14
the
1:07:14
church
1:07:14
and
1:07:14
the
1:07:14
elders
1:07:15
there.
1:07:15
And
1:07:15
the
1:07:15
pastor
1:07:16
of
1:07:17
what
1:07:17
he
1:07:17
was
1:07:17
doing
1:07:17
lost
1:07:18
his
1:07:18
job
1:07:18
as
1:07:18
a
1:07:18
result,
1:07:19
which
1:07:19
is
1:07:20
after
1:07:20
an
1:07:20
investigation
1:07:21
was
1:07:21
done,
1:07:22
he
1:07:23
was
1:07:23
at
1:07:23
a
1:07:23
different
1:07:23
church
1:07:24
where
1:07:24
he
1:07:24
started
1:07:24
off
1:07:24
with
1:07:25
and
1:07:27
I
1:07:27
say
1:07:27
a
1:07:27
good
1:07:27
thing
1:07:28
that
1:07:28
came
1:07:28
out
1:07:28
of
1:07:28
it
1:07:28
is
1:07:28
that
1:07:29
we
1:07:29
just
1:07:29
got
1:07:29
a
1:07:29
new
1:07:29
pastor
1:07:30
at
1:07:30
our
1:07:30
church
1:07:30
a
1:07:30
couple
1:07:30
months
1:07:31
ago
1:07:31
and
1:07:31
he
1:07:31
knows
1:07:32
none
1:07:32
of
1:07:32
the
1:07:32
context
1:07:33
for
1:07:33
this
1:07:33
and
1:07:33
yet
1:07:33
he
1:07:33
delivered
1:07:34
a
1:07:34
very
1:07:35
well
1:07:35
placed
1:07:36
report
1:07:37
at
1:07:37
the
1:07:37
end
1:07:37
of
1:07:37
his
1:07:37
service
1:07:39
to
1:07:39
us
1:07:39
about,
1:07:40
hey,
1:07:40
this
1:07:40
is
1:07:40
what
1:07:40
happened.
1:07:41
Here
1:07:41
are
1:07:41
the
1:07:41
facts.
1:07:41
If
1:07:42
there
1:07:42
is
1:07:42
something
1:07:42
we
1:07:42
don't
1:07:43
know
1:07:43
about,
1:07:43
come
1:07:43
up
1:07:44
to
1:07:44
us
1:07:44
not
1:07:44
to
1:07:44
air
1:07:45
it
1:07:45
out
1:07:45
with
1:07:45
everyone
1:07:45
and
1:07:46
spread
1:07:46
gossip,
1:07:47
but
1:07:47
for
1:07:47
the
1:07:47
sake
1:07:47
of
1:07:48
making
1:07:48
sure
1:07:48
we
1:07:48
have
1:07:48
everything
1:07:49
correct
1:07:49
and
1:07:50
everything
1:07:50
done
1:07:50
well
1:07:51
and
1:07:52
that
1:07:52
could
1:07:52
have
1:07:52
ended
1:07:53
way
1:07:53
worse
1:07:53
and
1:07:53
be
1:07:53
handled
1:07:54
way,
1:07:54
way
1:07:55
more
1:07:55
poorly.
1:07:55
So
1:07:55
I'm
1:07:56
still
1:07:56
praying
1:07:56
for
1:07:56
him
1:07:56
as
1:07:57
he's
1:07:57
going
1:07:57
through
1:07:58
this
1:07:58
is
1:07:58
that
1:07:58
he
1:07:59
recognizes
1:07:59
what
1:07:59
he's
1:08:00
done,
1:08:00
he's
1:08:00
more
1:08:00
repentant
1:08:01
and
1:08:01
I
1:08:01
think
1:08:01
there
1:08:02
is
1:08:02
signs
1:08:02
of
1:08:02
that,
1:08:03
but
1:08:03
it's
1:08:03
not
1:08:03
done
1:08:03
yet.
1:08:04
So
1:08:04
that's
1:08:05
slightly
1:08:05
less
1:08:05
positive,
1:08:06
but
1:08:06
some
1:08:06
positivity
1:08:07
in
1:08:07
there.
1:08:07
The
1:08:07
good
1:08:08
one,
1:08:08
on
1:08:08
the
1:08:08
other
1:08:08
hand
1:08:09
is
1:08:10
while
1:08:10
I'm
1:08:10
still
1:08:10
on
1:08:10
the
1:08:11
job
1:08:11
search,
1:08:12
I've
1:08:12
been
1:08:12
doing
1:08:12
substitute
1:08:13
teaching
1:08:14
and
1:08:15
I
1:08:15
had
1:08:15
a
1:08:16
student
1:08:17
while
1:08:17
I
1:08:17
was
1:08:17
actually
1:08:18
a
1:08:18
couple
1:08:19
weeks.
1:08:19
So
1:08:19
yeah,
1:08:20
a
1:08:20
couple
1:08:20
of
1:08:20
weeks
1:08:20
serving
1:08:20
as
1:08:20
an
1:08:21
ISS
1:08:21
person
1:08:21
while
1:08:22
they
1:08:22
were
1:08:22
needing
1:08:22
to
1:08:22
hire,
1:08:22
someone
1:08:25
came
1:08:25
up
1:08:25
to
1:08:25
me
1:08:26
and
1:08:26
asked
1:08:26
me
1:08:26
why
1:08:27
I
1:08:27
was
1:08:27
always
1:08:27
smiling.
1:08:28
And
1:08:29
if
1:08:29
you
1:08:30
don't
1:08:30
know
1:08:30
me,
1:08:30
that's
1:08:31
not
1:08:31
a
1:08:31
question
1:08:31
that's
1:08:32
normally
1:08:32
asked
1:08:32
of
1:08:32
me.
1:08:33
That's
1:08:33
something
1:08:33
I've
1:08:33
had
1:08:34
to
1:08:34
work
1:08:34
on
1:08:34
for
1:08:34
years
1:08:35
because
1:08:35
I
1:08:35
naturally
1:08:36
don't
1:08:36
default
1:08:36
to
1:08:36
a
1:08:37
smile.
1:08:37
Not
1:08:37
because
1:08:37
I'm
1:08:38
unhappy
1:08:38
or
1:08:38
upset,
1:08:39
it's
1:08:39
just
1:08:39
my
1:08:40
face
1:08:40
looks
1:08:40
like
1:08:40
I'm
1:08:40
angry
1:08:41
when
1:08:41
I'm
1:08:41
thinking.
1:08:41
And
1:08:42
yet
1:08:42
he
1:08:42
saw
1:08:43
me
1:08:43
day
1:08:43
after
1:08:43
day
1:08:43
while
1:08:44
he
1:08:44
was
1:08:44
being
1:08:44
punished
1:08:44
for
1:08:45
something
1:08:45
and
1:08:45
asked
1:08:45
me
1:08:45
why
1:08:45
I
1:08:45
was
1:08:46
smiling.
1:08:46
And
1:08:47
I
1:08:47
had
1:08:47
the
1:08:47
cop
1:08:48
out
1:08:48
moment
1:08:48
where
1:08:48
I
1:08:48
could
1:08:48
have
1:08:49
said,
1:08:49
oh,
1:08:50
want
1:08:50
to
1:08:50
spread
1:08:51
joy?
1:08:51
And
1:08:51
like,
1:08:51
well,
1:08:51
yeah,
1:08:52
that's
1:08:52
great,
1:08:52
but
1:08:52
no,
1:08:53
stop.
1:08:53
Let's
1:08:54
talk
1:08:54
about
1:08:54
why
1:08:54
you
1:08:55
smile.
1:08:55
Why
1:08:55
I
1:08:55
smile,
1:08:56
why
1:08:56
I
1:08:56
feel
1:08:56
joy
1:08:56
is
1:08:56
because
1:08:57
I
1:08:57
have
1:08:57
Jesus
1:08:57
in
1:08:57
my
1:08:57
heart.
1:08:58
I
1:08:58
mean,
1:08:58
you
1:08:59
can
1:08:59
Sunday
1:09:00
school
1:09:00
all
1:09:00
day
1:09:00
long
1:09:01
for
1:09:01
that
1:09:02
in
1:09:02
the
1:09:02
children's
1:09:03
ministry.
1:09:03
But
1:09:03
like
1:09:03
I
1:09:03
do,
1:09:04
I
1:09:04
feel
1:09:04
this
1:09:04
joy.
1:09:05
So
1:09:05
I
1:09:05
have
1:09:05
Actively
1:09:06
thought,
1:09:06
when
1:09:06
I'm
1:09:07
out
1:09:07
and
1:09:07
about,
1:09:07
I
1:09:07
need
1:09:08
to
1:09:08
smile
1:09:08
more.
1:09:09
Not
1:09:10
for
1:09:10
the
1:09:10
sake
1:09:10
of
1:09:10
looking
1:09:10
fake,
1:09:11
but
1:09:11
for
1:09:11
the
1:09:11
sake
1:09:11
of.
1:09:12
No,
1:09:12
I'm
1:09:12
actually
1:09:12
happy.
1:09:13
Let
1:09:13
me
1:09:13
see
1:09:13
people
1:09:14
see
1:09:14
that.
1:09:14
He
1:09:14
saw
1:09:15
that.
1:09:15
And
1:09:15
we
1:09:16
didn't
1:09:16
have
1:09:16
a
1:09:16
conversion
1:09:17
that
1:09:17
day.
1:09:17
It's
1:09:17
not
1:09:17
the
1:09:17
great
1:09:18
story
1:09:18
of
1:09:18
that,
1:09:18
but,
1:09:18
like,
1:09:19
that's
1:09:20
not
1:09:20
something
1:09:20
he's
1:09:20
familiar
1:09:21
with.
1:09:21
And
1:09:21
I
1:09:21
got
1:09:22
to
1:09:22
explain
1:09:22
that.
1:09:22
And
1:09:22
God
1:09:23
gave
1:09:23
me
1:09:23
that
1:09:23
opportunity.
1:09:24
And
1:09:24
for
1:09:24
once
1:09:25
in
1:09:25
my
1:09:25
life,
1:09:25
I
1:09:25
actually
1:09:25
said
1:09:26
yes.
1:09:26
And
1:09:26
it
1:09:26
was
1:09:27
great.
1:09:28
Yeah,
1:09:28
praise
1:09:28
God.
1:09:29
So
1:09:29
the
1:09:29
answer
1:09:30
was,
1:09:30
I'm
1:09:30
cheating
1:09:31
because
1:09:31
you
1:09:31
like
1:09:31
to
1:09:31
see
1:09:32
children
1:09:32
suffer.
1:09:35
No,
1:09:35
no,
1:09:37
I'm
1:09:37
going
1:09:37
to
1:09:37
cheat
1:09:37
now.
1:09:38
Also
1:09:38
because
1:09:39
I
1:09:40
had
1:09:40
a
1:09:40
God
1:09:40
moment
1:09:40
while
1:09:40
he
1:09:40
was
1:09:40
giving
1:09:41
his
1:09:41
God
1:09:41
moment,
1:09:42
if
1:09:42
that's
1:09:42
allowed.
1:09:44
Because
1:09:44
I've
1:09:44
talked
1:09:44
to
1:09:44
you
1:09:45
guys
1:09:45
before
1:09:45
this
1:09:45
recording
1:09:46
and
1:09:46
I've
1:09:46
been
1:09:46
really
1:09:47
grumpy
1:09:47
lately
1:09:48
and
1:09:48
I
1:09:48
do
1:09:48
think
1:09:48
it's
1:09:49
largely
1:09:49
because
1:09:49
of
1:09:49
pain
1:09:50
and
1:09:50
maybe
1:09:50
because
1:09:50
I'm
1:09:50
doing
1:09:50
too
1:09:51
much.
1:09:51
Maybe
1:09:51
a
1:09:51
little
1:09:51
combination
1:09:52
of
1:09:52
both.
1:09:53
I
1:09:53
just
1:09:53
been
1:09:53
getting
1:09:53
recently
1:09:54
angry
1:09:54
at
1:09:54
stuff
1:09:54
that
1:09:55
I
1:09:55
know
1:09:55
I'm
1:09:55
not
1:09:55
actually
1:09:55
mad
1:09:56
at
1:09:56
that
1:09:56
I
1:09:56
actually
1:09:56
enjoy
1:09:56
some
1:09:57
of
1:09:57
the
1:09:57
stuff
1:09:57
and
1:09:57
I'm
1:09:57
getting
1:09:58
mad
1:09:58
at
1:09:58
it
1:09:58
anyway.
1:09:59
And
1:10:01
I
1:10:01
still
1:10:01
have
1:10:01
somebody
1:10:02
at
1:10:02
work
1:10:02
who
1:10:02
always
1:10:02
talks
1:10:03
about,
1:10:03
like,
1:10:03
why
1:10:03
are
1:10:03
you
1:10:03
so
1:10:03
happy
1:10:03
all
1:10:03
the
1:10:04
time?
1:10:04
And
1:10:04
I'm
1:10:04
like,
1:10:04
I
1:10:04
don't
1:10:04
feel
1:10:05
it
1:10:05
right
1:10:05
now.
1:10:05
And
1:10:06
I
1:10:06
do
1:10:07
think
1:10:07
even
1:10:07
though
1:10:08
I
1:10:08
still
1:10:08
need
1:10:08
prayer
1:10:08
and
1:10:09
I
1:10:09
am
1:10:09
down,
1:10:10
it
1:10:10
does
1:10:10
help
1:10:11
to
1:10:11
remember,
1:10:11
like,
1:10:12
how
1:10:13
much
1:10:13
more
1:10:13
I
1:10:13
might
1:10:13
be
1:10:14
upset
1:10:15
and
1:10:15
how
1:10:15
much
1:10:15
harder
1:10:16
some
1:10:16
of
1:10:16
this
1:10:16
stuff
1:10:16
is
1:10:16
without
1:10:17
Jesus.
1:10:18
And
1:10:18
the
1:10:18
joy,
1:10:18
joy,
1:10:18
joy,
1:10:18
joy
1:10:19
down
1:10:19
in
1:10:19
my
1:10:19
heart
1:10:19
way
1:10:19
or
1:10:19
down
1:10:20
in
1:10:20
my
1:10:20
heart,
1:10:20
you
1:10:21
know,
1:10:21
having
1:10:22
both,
1:10:22
because,
1:10:23
you
1:10:23
know,
1:10:23
I
1:10:23
still
1:10:23
have
1:10:23
joy.
1:10:24
I
1:10:24
still
1:10:24
smile
1:10:24
a
1:10:24
lot.
1:10:24
I
1:10:25
just
1:10:25
need
1:10:26
a
1:10:26
little
1:10:26
help
1:10:26
right
1:10:26
now.
1:10:26
And
1:10:27
both
1:10:27
things
1:10:27
can
1:10:27
be
1:10:27
true.
1:10:28
Yes.
1:10:29
All
1:10:29
right,
1:10:29
tj,
1:10:29
take
1:10:30
some.
1:10:30
Alright,
1:10:31
so
1:10:31
please
1:10:32
consider
1:10:32
sharing
1:10:32
this
1:10:32
episode
1:10:33
with
1:10:33
a
1:10:33
friend.
1:10:33
Share
1:10:33
with
1:10:33
an
1:10:34
enemy.
1:10:34
Share
1:10:34
with
1:10:34
your
1:10:34
cousins,
1:10:35
or
1:10:35
else
1:10:35
especially
1:10:36
your
1:10:36
cousins.
1:10:37
Go
1:10:37
to
1:10:37
the
1:10:37
website,
1:10:38
purchase
1:10:38
one
1:10:38
of
1:10:38
our
1:10:38
T
1:10:38
shirts.
1:10:39
You
1:10:39
can
1:10:39
promote
1:10:40
the
1:10:40
show.
1:10:40
You
1:10:40
help
1:10:40
us
1:10:40
raise
1:10:41
money
1:10:41
for
1:10:41
podcasting
1:10:42
needs,
1:10:42
and
1:10:42
it
1:10:42
lets
1:10:43
others
1:10:43
know
1:10:43
about
1:10:43
the
1:10:43
importance
1:10:44
of
1:10:44
our
1:10:44
mission
1:10:44
to
1:10:44
educate
1:10:45
and
1:10:45
unite
1:10:46
the
1:10:46
modern
1:10:46
church.
1:10:46
If
1:10:47
you're
1:10:47
listening
1:10:47
to
1:10:47
this
1:10:47
on
1:10:47
Systematic
1:10:48
Geekology,
1:10:49
if
1:10:49
you
1:10:49
liked
1:10:50
this
1:10:50
episode,
1:10:51
this
1:10:51
is
1:10:51
pretty
1:10:51
much
1:10:52
what
1:10:52
we
1:10:52
do
1:10:53
on.
1:10:53
On
1:10:53
the
1:10:53
whole
1:10:54
Church
1:10:54
podcast.
1:10:55
Except
1:10:55
there's
1:10:55
a
1:10:55
lot
1:10:56
less
1:10:57
science
1:10:57
fiction
1:10:58
than
1:10:59
video
1:10:59
games
1:10:59
usually.
1:11:00
Usually
1:11:01
there
1:11:01
was
1:11:02
a
1:11:02
pirate
1:11:02
episode
1:11:02
though,
1:11:03
so
1:11:03
maybe
1:11:04
check
1:11:04
that
1:11:04
one
1:11:04
out.
1:11:04
You
1:11:05
know,
1:11:05
we.
1:11:05
We
1:11:06
get
1:11:06
out
1:11:06
there
1:11:06
whole
1:11:06
trick
1:11:07
biaries.
1:11:08
Check
1:11:08
out
1:11:08
our
1:11:08
shirts,
1:11:09
they're
1:11:09
all
1:11:09
really
1:11:09
comfy.
1:11:10
We
1:11:10
have
1:11:10
a
1:11:10
couple
1:11:10
of
1:11:10
new
1:11:10
ones.
1:11:12
Yeah.
1:11:12
If
1:11:12
you
1:11:12
like
1:11:13
both
1:11:13
show
1:11:13
shows
1:11:14
and
1:11:14
want
1:11:14
to
1:11:14
just
1:11:14
Hear
1:11:15
a
1:11:15
lot
1:11:15
more
1:11:15
of
1:11:15
Christian
1:11:15
Tube.
1:11:16
Amazon
1:11:17
Podcast
1:11:17
Network
1:11:17
has
1:11:18
its
1:11:18
own
1:11:18
website.
1:11:18
Check
1:11:19
it
1:11:19
out.
1:11:19
We
1:11:20
mentioned
1:11:20
a
1:11:20
lot
1:11:20
of
1:11:20
Christian
1:11:21
shows.
1:11:21
They
1:11:21
are
1:11:21
all
1:11:22
good.
1:11:22
Check
1:11:22
Friday
1:11:22
Night
1:11:23
Frights.
1:11:23
I
1:11:23
think
1:11:23
if
1:11:23
you're
1:11:24
into
1:11:24
the
1:11:24
geeky
1:11:24
stuff,
1:11:25
that
1:11:25
why
1:11:25
I
1:11:25
don't
1:11:26
like.
1:11:26
If
1:11:26
you're
1:11:26
into
1:11:27
more
1:11:27
of
1:11:27
the
1:11:27
theology
1:11:27
stuff,
1:11:28
the
1:11:28
Bible
1:11:28
stuff,
1:11:29
let
1:11:29
nothing
1:11:29
move
1:11:29
you.
1:11:29
He
1:11:30
does
1:11:30
great
1:11:30
work
1:11:30
over
1:11:30
there.
1:11:31
Also
1:11:32
want
1:11:32
to
1:11:32
shout
1:11:32
out
1:11:32
some
1:11:32
of
1:11:32
the
1:11:32
other
1:11:33
shows,
1:11:33
Theology
1:11:33
on
1:11:33
the
1:11:34
Rocks
1:11:34
with
1:11:35
Christy
1:11:35
Whe
1:11:36
and
1:11:36
Leah
1:11:37
Robinson.
1:11:37
They
1:11:38
do
1:11:38
amazing
1:11:38
stuff.
1:11:39
And
1:11:39
I
1:11:40
have
1:11:40
been
1:11:40
working
1:11:40
on
1:11:41
Daniel
1:11:41
1
1:11:41
and
1:11:42
stuff
1:11:42
on
1:11:42
Be
1:11:42
Living
1:11:43
Water
1:11:44
from
1:11:44
Christian
1:11:44
Daoist
1:11:45
Perspective.
1:11:46
And
1:11:46
I've
1:11:46
been
1:11:46
meaning
1:11:47
to
1:11:47
text
1:11:47
Christian
1:11:48
to
1:11:48
see
1:11:48
if
1:11:48
there's
1:11:48
a
1:11:48
chapter
1:11:49
he
1:11:49
wants
1:11:49
to
1:11:49
talk
1:11:49
about
1:11:50
Daniel
1:11:50
with
1:11:50
me.
1:11:51
And
1:11:51
I
1:11:51
just
1:11:51
remembered
1:11:52
to
1:11:52
let
1:11:52
him
1:11:52
know
1:11:52
that
1:11:53
I've
1:11:53
been
1:11:53
meaning
1:11:53
to
1:11:53
text
1:11:53
him
1:11:54
that
1:11:54
on
1:11:55
air
1:11:56
response
1:11:56
for
1:11:56
judges.
1:11:57
So
1:11:58
we're
1:11:58
at
1:11:58
an
1:11:58
impasse.
1:11:59
Did
1:11:59
you
1:11:59
text
1:11:59
text
1:12:00
me?
1:12:01
Yes.
1:12:02
Well,
1:12:02
I
1:12:03
definitely
1:12:03
want
1:12:03
to
1:12:03
talk
1:12:03
about
1:12:04
Deborah.
1:12:05
Duh.
1:12:06
Okay.
1:12:06
I
1:12:06
figure.
1:12:07
Yeah.
1:12:09
All
1:12:09
right.
1:12:09
Well,
1:12:10
we
1:12:10
hope
1:12:10
you
1:12:10
enjoyed
1:12:10
it.
1:12:10
Podcasting
1:12:11
on
1:12:11
air.
1:12:12
Coming
1:12:12
up,
1:12:13
we'll
1:12:13
have
1:12:13
Dr.
1:12:13
James
1:12:14
McGrath
1:12:14
back
1:12:14
on
1:12:14
the
1:12:14
show
1:12:14
to
1:12:15
discuss
1:12:15
his
1:12:15
newest
1:12:15
book,
1:12:16
Beyond
1:12:16
Deconstruction,
1:12:17
Building
1:12:17
a
1:12:17
More
1:12:18
Expansive
1:12:18
Faith.
1:12:19
And
1:12:19
then
1:12:19
after
1:12:19
that,
1:12:19
we're
1:12:20
gonna
1:12:20
have
1:12:20
on
1:12:20
Dr.
1:12:21
Thomas
1:12:21
J.
1:12:22
Ord
1:12:22
once
1:12:22
again
1:12:22
to
1:12:23
discuss
1:12:23
his
1:12:23
newest
1:12:23
book,
1:12:24
A
1:12:24
Systematic
1:12:25
Theology,
1:12:25
Theology
1:12:25
of
1:12:25
Love,
1:12:26
Volume
1:12:26
1.
1:12:27
After
1:12:27
that,
1:12:27
we're
1:12:27
going
1:12:27
to
1:12:27
be
1:12:28
speaking
1:12:28
with
1:12:28
Pastor
1:12:28
Sarah
1:12:29
Hinckley
1:12:29
Wilson
1:12:30
about
1:12:30
her
1:12:30
time
1:12:30
as
1:12:30
a
1:12:30
pastor
1:12:31
in
1:12:31
Japan,
1:12:32
as
1:12:32
well
1:12:32
as
1:12:32
her
1:12:32
podcast,
1:12:33
the
1:12:33
Queen
1:12:34
of
1:12:34
the
1:12:34
Sciences.
1:12:35
And
1:12:35
at
1:12:35
the
1:12:35
end
1:12:35
of
1:12:35
season
1:12:36
one,
1:12:36
naturally,
1:12:37
we're
1:12:37
gonna
1:12:37
have
1:12:37
Francis
1:12:38
Chan
1:12:38
on
1:12:38
the
1:12:38
show.
1:12:39
Save
1:12:40
the
1:12:40
applause.
1:12:40
No,
1:12:41
but
1:12:42
now
1:12:42
that
1:12:42
now
1:12:42
that
1:12:43
he
1:12:43
knows
1:12:43
Christian's
1:12:43
been
1:12:43
on,
1:12:44
he's
1:12:44
sure
1:12:44
to
1:12:45
contact
1:12:45
us.
1:12:45
Almost
1:12:46
certainly.
1:12:46
I
1:12:46
know
1:12:46
Francis
1:12:47
follows
1:12:47
everything
1:12:48
Christian
1:12:48
does
1:12:48
because
1:12:48
why
1:12:49
wouldn't
1:12:49
he?
1:12:49
Everybody
1:12:49
falls
1:12:50
Christian.
1:12:50
Unless
1:12:51
spoke
1:12:51
to
1:12:51
him
1:12:51
about
1:12:52
15,
1:12:52
20
1:12:52
years
1:12:53
ago.
1:12:54
Yeah,
1:12:55
well,
1:12:55
he
1:12:55
can't
1:12:56
wait
1:12:56
to
1:12:56
make
1:12:56
it
1:12:56
happen
1:12:56
again.
1:12:58
Yeah.