Latest / Aired Out / NATIONAL FIRST RESPONDERS DAY - Reg Beliveau Jr - Asst. State Fire Marshal – 802 Fire Safe program
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- 0:34Speaker 1: Two peoples.
- 0:37Speaker 2: Peculs. Well, we got five days until daylight savings time ends,
- 1:48Speaker 2: three days to Halloween. Time is flying. It is first
- 1:55Speaker 2: Responder's Day. We have our assists in state Fire Marshall,
- 2:01Speaker 2: who's gonna be with us here in just a moment.
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- 3:50Speaker 2: we have the thirteenth named storm of the Atlantic Hurricane season,
- 3:55Speaker 2: Hurricane Melissa, making landfall right now impact Jamaica as a
- 4:01Speaker 2: Category five storm with sustained winds upwards of around two
- 4:09Speaker 2: hundred miles per hour. I'm not sure how anybody can
- 4:13Speaker 2: can survive that, but man, this is the strongest system
- 4:21Speaker 2: to hit Jamaica since their record keeping started back in
- 4:26Speaker 2: eighteen fifty one. So our thoughts and our prayers are
- 4:31Speaker 2: with the people of Jamaica and all of the islands
- 4:36Speaker 2: down there, the Dominican Republic Haiti man oh man, and
- 4:43Speaker 2: we still have what another month or so of the
- 4:46Speaker 2: hurricane season upon US thirties right now, A nice one
- 4:52Speaker 2: here ahead in from a partly cloudy and around fifty
- 4:54Speaker 2: five tonight partly cloudy and thirty A lot of this morning.
- 5:00Speaker 2: Waking up tomorrow looks like sun, clouds, fifty five and
- 5:04Speaker 2: some clouds and some rain on Thursday, a little bit
- 5:07Speaker 2: of a cool front pushing in fifty for the daytime
- 5:10Speaker 2: high on Thursday. And that's Halloween. Yeah, Friday, Friday Halloween
- 5:17Speaker 2: rain showers. So pack an umbrella for the kids. Dodgers
- 5:22Speaker 2: got the edge in the World Series after taking the
- 5:24Speaker 2: Blue Jays last night in a record eighteen inning Game three.
- 5:30Speaker 2: This is the longest World Series game in Major League
- 5:33Speaker 2: Baseball history by innings. Game four tonight at eight o'clock.
- 5:39Speaker 2: Man hanging on, I hope the Blue Jays can get
- 5:44Speaker 2: it done. As I said, this morning is a very
- 5:52Speaker 2: special day. It was in twenty nineteen, just a couple
- 5:55Speaker 2: of years ago, that the United States passed a resolution
- 5:59Speaker 2: designing October twenty eighth as National First Responders Day to
- 6:05Speaker 2: honor the men and the women who put their lives
- 6:09Speaker 2: on the line and are there for us no matter
- 6:14Speaker 2: when we need them. Twenty four to seven with us
- 6:18Speaker 2: this morning is our Assistant State Fire Marshal Rege. And
- 6:23Speaker 2: I want to make sure I say this right. Reg
- 6:26Speaker 2: Is it Bellevue?
- 6:27Speaker 1: That's good?
- 6:28Speaker 2: Is that good? That works? Do others screw up your
- 6:32Speaker 2: last name?
- 6:34Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, kind of It's it's French.
- 6:36Speaker 2: It's belle Vaux, the vision. Oh, I got it right
- 6:39Speaker 2: on the second time.
- 6:40Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 6:42Speaker 2: But everybody calls you, Reggie. Yes, how are you man?
- 6:45Speaker 1: I'm doing great. Thanks for the invite.
- 6:47Speaker 2: It's an absolute pleasure to not only meet you this morning,
- 6:51Speaker 2: but also have you share a microphone with me. Listen
- 6:55Speaker 2: I said to you just a few minutes ago. When
- 6:59Speaker 2: Joe Waltsworth tells me I need to have somebody on
- 7:03Speaker 2: the air, I don't. I don't ask questions. He's a
- 7:07Speaker 2: great guy and a fantastic community leader here in Central Vermont.
- 7:14Speaker 2: I don't even say Barry. It's beyond well, well well
- 7:17Speaker 2: beyond Barry. And he knows what's going on, and he
- 7:20Speaker 2: knows the best people to have on the air to
- 7:23Speaker 2: talk about the most important things.
- 7:25Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Appreciate Joe also being a good partner.
- 7:28Speaker 2: Tell me, first of all, thank you to all of
- 7:32Speaker 2: our first responders here in our state, no matter who
- 7:36Speaker 2: they are, men and women, it doesn't matter fire, police, ambulance, everything,
- 7:43Speaker 2: everyone on this first responder's day, we are all, every
- 7:48Speaker 2: single one of us, completely screwed. Without each of you.
- 7:53Speaker 2: I appreciate that we love you, We rely on you
- 7:57Speaker 2: twenty four to seven, no matter what the weather's doing,
- 7:59Speaker 2: no matter what's happening. So kudos and a tip of
- 8:03Speaker 2: the hat to all of our first responders this morning,
- 8:07Speaker 2: hearing fromont and beyond wonderful to have you in here. Man.
- 8:11Speaker 2: First of all, I would love to say, let's make
- 8:16Speaker 2: this a little bit of a habit if we can.
- 8:18Speaker 2: Let's get you back in here because it's fun. Talking
- 8:20Speaker 2: about fire safety is massive. This is probably, and I've
- 8:25Speaker 2: said this to Joe before, this is probably one of
- 8:28Speaker 2: the biggest subjects that I think so many of us
- 8:33Speaker 2: are guilty myself. Included of just taking for granted, is
- 8:41Speaker 2: that we get caught up in our routine. Things are good,
- 8:45Speaker 2: we're busy, we don't we're not always thinking about stuff
- 8:51Speaker 2: like this, our fire alarms, our fire prevention stuff, whether
- 8:57Speaker 2: our home is safe, bad habit that we may or
- 9:01Speaker 2: may not have, and especially this time of year, when
- 9:05Speaker 2: things start getting chili, We're turning on space heaters, We're
- 9:11Speaker 2: cranking up the heat a little bit more. We're not
- 9:15Speaker 2: really thinking about whether or not we had our furnace
- 9:19Speaker 2: cleaned or our chimneys cleaned. We get busy, we get
- 9:22Speaker 2: caught up. Yeah, absolutely, we're thinking about hunting. We're thinking
- 9:26Speaker 2: about what we're doing for the holidays. We're thinking about
- 9:30Speaker 2: maybe doing some some installation work in our house. But
- 9:35Speaker 2: we're not really thinking about fire prevention so much. What
- 9:40Speaker 2: are we doing here in fromont to kind of combat
- 9:42Speaker 2: that a little bit?
- 9:43Speaker 1: So within the let me go and try to frame
- 9:49Speaker 1: what I actually what my job is. So I fall
- 9:52Speaker 1: under a Department of Public Safety, Division of Fire Safety
- 9:58Speaker 1: under the Fire Marshal's office, and I'm an assistant fire Marshal.
- 10:01Speaker 1: But I don't do not do inspections. I am public education.
- 10:06Speaker 1: So I go out and I, you know, do these programs,
- 10:10Speaker 1: present these programs throughout the state.
- 10:13Speaker 2: Okay, So, and you have just slept a long way
- 10:19Speaker 2: to get here this morning, and we appreciate your time
- 10:23Speaker 2: and your your dedication to this. What is the eighth
- 10:27Speaker 2: two firesafe program? This is something that I think I've
- 10:34Speaker 2: seen that logo in the past before, but I'm not
- 10:37Speaker 2: sure what.
- 10:38Speaker 1: It means, okay, so let me frame it as fire
- 10:42Speaker 1: Safe ATO two is a state program that we that
- 10:46Speaker 1: we established through a Firefighters grant that would help distribute
- 10:54Speaker 1: home fire alarms to single family homes that that require them.
- 11:02Speaker 1: Fire alarms have a ten year basically a ten year life.
- 11:05Speaker 1: After ten years, it's recommended that you get rid of
- 11:08Speaker 1: them and replace them after ten years. So the fire
- 11:13Speaker 1: Safe ATO two program is very, very similar to the
- 11:16Speaker 1: Sound the Alarm program the American Red Cross offers as well.
- 11:20Speaker 1: So we have partnered in the past in Berlin at
- 11:25Speaker 1: the Berlin Fire Department with the American Red Cross and
- 11:30Speaker 1: fire Safe ATO too in their department to distribute smoke
- 11:35Speaker 1: alarms to I believe it was fourteen fourteen homes that
- 11:38Speaker 1: weekend that we did that program last year.
- 11:43Speaker 2: To find these homes, how do you get connected with them? Okay?
- 11:48Speaker 1: So typically what happens is so one of the things
- 11:51Speaker 1: I try to do with the fire departments when I
- 11:53Speaker 1: go out and I do these presentations on community risk reduction.
- 11:57Speaker 1: So community risk reduction is a program the NFPA has
- 12:02Speaker 1: developed to basically help fire departments do a drill down
- 12:09Speaker 1: within their communities as to what are their main hitters,
- 12:14Speaker 1: their main causes of calls. Okay, so community risk reduction
- 12:19Speaker 1: is basically take your department, look at what your high
- 12:22Speaker 1: flyers are. Every call a fire department has to enter
- 12:27Speaker 1: into it's going to be nearest, but it was enfers.
- 12:30Speaker 1: It's a national database where you know, you say, okay,
- 12:34Speaker 1: we had a call at X y Z address. This
- 12:37Speaker 1: was the call, These are the trucks that responded, this
- 12:39Speaker 1: is how many personnel we're on truck, and this is
- 12:43Speaker 1: what we found back in service at X. So at
- 12:46Speaker 1: the end of the year you can take what basically
- 12:50Speaker 1: run a spreadsheet on what these calls were. Then you
- 12:55Speaker 1: can see what your high flyers are. So community risk
- 12:57Speaker 1: reduction is said, look at these and see how you
- 13:00Speaker 1: can help reduce them. So it's basically being a preemptive
- 13:04Speaker 1: rather than a reactive program within a fire department is outreach.
- 13:10Speaker 1: And the big thing I think that gets lost in
- 13:14Speaker 1: these programs is it is that community outreach. It's that
- 13:17Speaker 1: one on one sitting down with the community and just
- 13:21Speaker 1: talking with them, brainstorming, spitballing, and say what have you
- 13:25Speaker 1: got going on in your home? Do you mind if
- 13:27Speaker 1: we come in and do a visit. So your question
- 13:30Speaker 1: was how do they do that? The fire departments would
- 13:33Speaker 1: sit there and they would put out like a notification,
- 13:35Speaker 1: say hey, we want to do a home safety visit
- 13:38Speaker 1: in your single family home. And I'll go back to that.
- 13:41Speaker 1: Remind me of that, say send us an email or
- 13:45Speaker 1: call us. We'll put you on a list and we'll
- 13:47Speaker 1: do a weekend. We'll do a Saturday, and we'll come
- 13:50Speaker 1: out and do an install. So, like I said, I
- 13:53Speaker 1: did an example of Berlin. Fourteen families, fourteen homes called
- 13:58Speaker 1: and they scheduled that Saturday. So we had I think
- 14:02Speaker 1: it was like twenty five thirty volunteers the fire department
- 14:05Speaker 1: as well, along with the Red Cross, along with other
- 14:08Speaker 1: community partners. So it could have been like the Boy Scouts,
- 14:12Speaker 1: it could have been the Girl Scouts. It could have
- 14:13Speaker 1: been like the Eagles Club or the Lion's Club, or
- 14:17Speaker 1: the Masonic or whatever that you have within your community.
- 14:20Speaker 1: Everybody congregated at the fire station. We gave them a
- 14:23Speaker 1: quick training on how you do a home safety visit,
- 14:27Speaker 1: and then they all went out with their equipment, the alarms,
- 14:31Speaker 1: and they did an install. So that's how people would
- 14:34Speaker 1: do that. So within the state of Vermont, there's conflicting numbers,
- 14:39Speaker 1: but about two hundred and thirty one fire departments within
- 14:41Speaker 1: the state of Vermont. And I would say in the
- 14:44Speaker 1: past two years that my mission was to get out
- 14:47Speaker 1: and get these these programs out there, educate the fire
- 14:50Speaker 1: departments to say this is out there. We probably hit
- 14:54Speaker 1: better than a third or so of the fire departments
- 14:57Speaker 1: within the state of Vermont.
- 14:59Speaker 2: And there's many and.
- 15:01Speaker 1: Thirty one roughly fire departments within the state. And I
- 15:05Speaker 1: couldn't tell you exactly how many full time departments. I mean,
- 15:08Speaker 1: I have visited Montpellier, I've visited obviously Barry, Barry City, Burlington,
- 15:17Speaker 1: South Burlington, Colchester. I've been to Saint John's Berry fire departments.
- 15:23Speaker 1: So there are a few full time, there are a
- 15:27Speaker 1: few mixed full time on call, and then there's strictly
- 15:31Speaker 1: volunteer fire departments throughout the state of Vermont.
- 15:35Speaker 2: Wow. Man, and how many how many others assistant fire
- 15:41Speaker 2: so Marshall.
- 15:42Speaker 1: Are doing this the pub ed division. It's myself. So
- 15:46Speaker 1: I have a direct report a supervisor, Michael Greenia that
- 15:50Speaker 1: has been doing this since God War Nickers. He's been
- 15:54Speaker 1: forever in the pub ed division. So back when I
- 15:58Speaker 1: got hired two years ago as a part time employee
- 16:01Speaker 1: within the State of Vermont, my mission was to work
- 16:04Speaker 1: under Michael to go out and get these programs out
- 16:08Speaker 1: there and help fire departments one help them understand that, hey,
- 16:13Speaker 1: these programs are out there and they're not state pushed programs.
- 16:18Speaker 1: They are the two programs I mentioned, the Community Risk
- 16:21Speaker 1: Reduction and the Steps of Safety program. They are NFPA,
- 16:24Speaker 1: the National Fire Protection Association. They are NFPA driven, just
- 16:29Speaker 1: like Fire Prevention Week in the schools. Yeah right, I
- 16:31Speaker 1: mean the fire departments do an exceptional job at Fire
- 16:35Speaker 1: Prevention Week in the schools going out and doing that outreach.
- 16:40Speaker 1: I got one of the first documented fire saves within
- 16:43Speaker 1: the state of Vermont back in twenty I can't remember
- 16:45Speaker 1: what the date is now, but due to the programs
- 16:49Speaker 1: that the Swanton Village Fire Department presented in the schools,
- 16:52Speaker 1: I've done that for twenty six years and I got
- 16:56Speaker 1: the privilege of having it work. So anyway, we talked
- 17:02Speaker 1: about Fire Prevention Week, NFPA does a really good job
- 17:06Speaker 1: of that. These other two programs that we're finding out
- 17:09Speaker 1: that the Steps to Safety program that within the past
- 17:14Speaker 1: This year alone, we've had nine fire desks within the
- 17:16Speaker 1: state of Vermont and all of them have been over
- 17:18Speaker 1: the age of sixty. Within the past ten years, fifty
- 17:22Speaker 1: four percent of the fire desks within the state of
- 17:24Speaker 1: Vermont have been over the age of sixty. So what's
- 17:27Speaker 1: that telling us is that we do an exceptional job
- 17:30Speaker 1: at fire Prevention Week in the school. We're missing a demographic.
- 17:34Speaker 1: We're missing that older adults.
- 17:36Speaker 2: Wow, and you were just telling me before we went
- 17:40Speaker 2: live here this morning. Slips and trips. This is stuff
- 17:44Speaker 2: that is well documented. Yeah, slips, trips and falls. When
- 17:50Speaker 2: I went to a National Fire Protection Association, I went
- 17:53Speaker 2: to a conference boy in this case me where it
- 17:57Speaker 2: was it wasn't conquered and talking to other fire departments
- 18:01Speaker 2: throughout New England, majority of them if their EMS combination
- 18:07Speaker 2: of EMS and fire or strictly EMS, it's lifticists. You know,
- 18:12Speaker 2: older adults falling. And one of the things that for me,
- 18:17Speaker 2: it's scary to think about because my partner, her mom
- 18:20Speaker 2: is her mom is like eighty four years old, and
- 18:22Speaker 2: I worry about her falling because when an older adult
- 18:26Speaker 2: falls and they break their hip, that is that is
- 18:30Speaker 2: catastrophic for them. Sure, right, So that decreases their mobility
- 18:34Speaker 2: and that's where it.
- 18:36Speaker 1: For whatever reason, it seems like their health declines after that.
- 18:40Speaker 1: So preventing that fall is important. Thus the Steps of
- 18:45Speaker 1: Safety program that the NFPA put out there for us
- 18:50Speaker 1: to help educate fire departments. Yeah wow, yeah yeah.
- 18:56Speaker 2: And combine you know mobility or general mobility with egress
- 19:03Speaker 2: and throw in you know a cooking mishap. Yes, this
- 19:12Speaker 2: is a this is a very bad combination.
- 19:17Speaker 1: They say that an average, so majority of fires within
- 19:20Speaker 1: the homes start in the kitchen. Okay, it is heating. Also,
- 19:25Speaker 1: smoking is a large cause, but one of the number
- 19:30Speaker 1: one causes are cooking fires in the in the home.
- 19:33Speaker 1: An average kitchen fire through the insurance companies, I've heard
- 19:37Speaker 1: seventy four thousand dollars for an average kitchen fire. Okay.
- 19:41Speaker 1: So one of the things to try to prevent cooking
- 19:46Speaker 1: fires are, you know, you have lids to the pans
- 19:49Speaker 1: or the pots that you're cooking with, you have anoven
- 19:51Speaker 1: met but also you have a fire extinguisher that's nearby. Okay,
- 19:55Speaker 1: all of these things I've had, I've had older adults
- 19:57Speaker 1: ask me about what about the fire blanket. You know,
- 20:00Speaker 1: you see this fire blanket advertised and all this other stuff.
- 20:03Speaker 1: I would argue that in my years of doing fire
- 20:06Speaker 1: education fire prevention, if you're that comfortable being that close
- 20:10Speaker 1: to a fire, why not use an extinguisher instead? Right,
- 20:17Speaker 1: because if you look at the concept, you take a blanket,
- 20:19Speaker 1: you open it up, and now you put it over
- 20:20Speaker 1: your face like this, you know, and you're walking up
- 20:22Speaker 1: to the fire. I can't see me, I'm on radio,
- 20:24Speaker 1: but anyway, you're walking up to the fire like okay.
- 20:26Speaker 2: Where is it?
- 20:27Speaker 1: Now you drop it and now you're exposed again. So
- 20:29Speaker 1: you're right up close to that fire. So a fire
- 20:32Speaker 1: blanket is not UL listed and the NFPA doesn't recognize
- 20:36Speaker 1: it as a piece of firefighting equipment. Okay, it's a suppression.
- 20:41Speaker 1: It's not a piece of firefighting equipment. A fire extinguisher
- 20:45Speaker 1: is is UL listed and is recognized as a piece
- 20:48Speaker 1: of fire fighting equipment.
- 20:52Speaker 2: What's what's the uh? What? What kind of fire extinguisher
- 20:56Speaker 2: do we need to have in the kitchen?
- 20:57Speaker 1: A b CD yeah, ABC, ABC, Yeah, So ABC is
- 21:03Speaker 1: what we call dry kem. It's a dry chemical. Is
- 21:07Speaker 1: it tastes like crap? If you get it in your mouth.
- 21:10Speaker 1: It's sodium bicarbonate and some other chemicals in there. But basically,
- 21:16Speaker 1: if you understand the fire triangle right, you need heat, oxygen,
- 21:19Speaker 1: and fuel. What it does is it smothers. It takes
- 21:22Speaker 1: away the oxygen. Okay, it makes a mess. It's a powder.
- 21:25Speaker 2: Yeah, all right.
- 21:27Speaker 1: The way I when I teach fire extinguish your training,
- 21:30Speaker 1: Type A fire is like what makes ashes, so wood paper,
- 21:34Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. Type B is like boiling liquids,
- 21:38Speaker 1: so oils, gasolines, cooking oil. That kind of stuff is
- 21:44Speaker 1: anything that'll boil. That's a type B fire. Type C
- 21:47Speaker 1: fires like circuits, so your toaster, your microwave, your computers,
- 21:51Speaker 1: your cell phones, that kind of stuff. Anything that's electrical is.
- 21:54Speaker 2: A type C.
- 21:55Speaker 1: ABC encompasses them all, all of those fires. They are
- 22:01Speaker 1: good to have in your home in your kitchen area
- 22:04Speaker 1: near your furnace. But understanding the size of the extinguisher
- 22:09Speaker 1: limits your firefighting capabilities. So if you have an eight
- 22:14Speaker 1: pounder or so, you know those are the regular small
- 22:16Speaker 1: ones that you see you can buy at you know,
- 22:18Speaker 1: your local hardware store, you have within five to ten
- 22:21Speaker 1: seconds of firefighting capabilities.
- 22:23Speaker 2: That's it.
- 22:25Speaker 1: So once you decide you're going to fight that fire,
- 22:27Speaker 1: you pull the pin, you aim, you squeeze, and you
- 22:30Speaker 1: sweep you one one thousand and two, one thousand and three,
- 22:33Speaker 1: one thousand and four, one thousand and five. Now you're
- 22:36Speaker 1: starting to dissipate. Six, one thousand and seven, one thousand
- 22:39Speaker 1: and eight, one thousand. You're spent. Okay, Okay, that's not
- 22:43Speaker 1: a lot of time. Okay, understanding that understanding one your
- 22:49Speaker 1: ability to fight a fire, but understanding what type of
- 22:52Speaker 1: fire you have, but hopefully knowing where your egress is
- 22:57Speaker 1: in the event of a fire.
- 22:59Speaker 2: Yeah quickly, and not just you, but your family, your
- 23:04Speaker 2: kids too. So guys like me might just say, screw it.
- 23:11Speaker 2: I'm just going to get the biggest ABC that they make,
- 23:16Speaker 2: and I'm gonna buy half a thousand of them and
- 23:19Speaker 2: have one in the garage, one in the kitchen, one
- 23:21Speaker 2: in the whatever. But just best to just go with
- 23:27Speaker 2: all three. ABC.
- 23:28Speaker 1: ABC is the one to have at a home yesday.
- 23:31Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow.
- 23:32Speaker 1: A lot of a lot of businesses, computer companies and stuff.
- 23:35Speaker 1: They'll have the BC, which is the carbon dioxide, not
- 23:39Speaker 1: carbon monoxide. Carbon monoxide is that poisonous gas that you
- 23:43Speaker 1: have in your home that is derived from the incomplete
- 23:46Speaker 1: combustion of a carbon Okay, so from woodstoves, propane fuel oils,
- 23:53Speaker 1: that kind of stuff that's monoxide dioxide. Is the that
- 24:01Speaker 1: fog so to speak, that really cold stuff it comes out.
- 24:04Speaker 2: But what's the difference if we're just missing the A
- 24:06Speaker 2: is it just a little cheaper.
- 24:08Speaker 1: Now it'll do the same thing, But for paper it
- 24:14Speaker 1: comes out with such a force. The BC extinguisher, I
- 24:18Speaker 1: mean you could, you could. It's better to blanket an
- 24:22Speaker 1: A type fire and a B C. What it does,
- 24:24Speaker 1: it cools and it takes away the oxygen. Okay, okay,
- 24:28Speaker 1: ABC will put that powder all over it and it
- 24:31Speaker 1: blankets the fire as well as takes away the oxygen
- 24:33Speaker 1: and cools the fire.
- 24:34Speaker 2: Okay to us all three, Wow, this is amazing. So
- 24:39Speaker 2: do you with the AH two firesafe program? Kind of
- 24:45Speaker 2: a dumb question here, but are you are you relying
- 24:48Speaker 2: on the community to come to you to say, hey,
- 24:53Speaker 2: would you guys come in and do an assessment and
- 24:56Speaker 2: evaluation of my home? Or do you look at your
- 25:01Speaker 2: stats and say, you know, these following people are frequent flyers,
- 25:07Speaker 2: they're elderly. We should just go knock on their door
- 25:11Speaker 2: and just have a quick review and see what they've
- 25:15Speaker 2: got for fire prevention stuff.
- 25:16Speaker 1: So my role within the state is to be a
- 25:19Speaker 1: vehicle or a conduit for local fire departments. Okay, I
- 25:24Speaker 1: am in no way trying to tell a fire department
- 25:27Speaker 1: what they should do or what they need to do.
- 25:29Speaker 1: If they have questions they have they want guidance. I
- 25:33Speaker 1: don't know all the answers, but I will definitely help
- 25:36Speaker 1: them get the answers that they need to help make
- 25:39Speaker 1: their community safer. That's all my purposes is to be
- 25:42Speaker 1: that conduit for them. So to go back to your question,
- 25:50Speaker 1: could they come to me, I'd rather they go to
- 25:53Speaker 1: their local fire departments and ask them about you know, hey,
- 25:56Speaker 1: do you folks give away fire alarms? Right now? We
- 26:01Speaker 1: do have a cash of CEO and smoke combination alarms
- 26:08Speaker 1: that if they if a fire department decided that they
- 26:11Speaker 1: wanted to do an AT or two program, I have
- 26:13Speaker 1: a trailer or the state has a trailer that we
- 26:15Speaker 1: could bring up to the fire station like that weekend
- 26:18Speaker 1: we were talking about. And we have ladders, we have
- 26:24Speaker 1: a toolkit, we have mirrors, we have the whole gamut.
- 26:28Speaker 1: So all they have to do is show up the
- 26:30Speaker 1: fire department, and the volunteers show up, and they get
- 26:33Speaker 1: the alarms, and they get the equipment and go off
- 26:35Speaker 1: and do their thing.
- 26:36Speaker 2: Wow, you were You mentioned earlier high risk single family
- 26:42Speaker 2: homes and said, don't forget that I mentioned that.
- 26:46Speaker 1: So yeah, So the fire Marshal's office within a stave
- 26:49Speaker 1: Vermont has no jurisdiction over single family homes. So apartment
- 26:53Speaker 1: buildings we do have, in commercial buildings, all of that
- 26:56Speaker 1: kind of stuff, the Fire Marshal's office has jurisdiction over them. These,
- 27:01Speaker 1: all of these fire desks that we mentioned earlier were
- 27:04Speaker 1: all from single family homes. Okay, So thus fire Safe
- 27:08Speaker 1: aight O two program comes into play on helping our
- 27:13Speaker 1: local our families be safer, right because obviously the data
- 27:18Speaker 1: shows majority of the fire deaths are within single family homes.
- 27:23Speaker 1: You know, So the eight O two program sixty plus yeah. Yeah,
- 27:27Speaker 1: So the eight O two program is have your local
- 27:29Speaker 1: fire departments go out and have a conversation a home
- 27:32Speaker 1: safety visit to help make you safer. The slip trips falls,
- 27:38Speaker 1: the Steps Safety program to the NFPA offul also offers
- 27:43Speaker 1: is basically older adults and I've done programs at like
- 27:46Speaker 1: Wake Robin. I've done a program up here for visually
- 27:49Speaker 1: and hearing it paired with Joe. That was a cool.
- 27:52Speaker 1: I had had a ball there. I've done Chittenham County
- 27:56Speaker 1: Community Services where special needs group. I did a fire
- 28:03Speaker 1: extinguisher training for that group. That was a ball. I
- 28:06Speaker 1: had probably the most fun I ever had doing a
- 28:08Speaker 1: fire extinguisher training program. But I've also done church groups
- 28:11Speaker 1: for Steps to Safety. So those are the demographics or
- 28:16Speaker 1: that's that group of individuals that you try to go
- 28:20Speaker 1: out and have a conversation with, and it's it's a
- 28:23Speaker 1: lot of fun because basically you start out with a
- 28:27Speaker 1: quick little presentation and stuff and you have a one
- 28:30Speaker 1: conversation one on one with these people and next thing
- 28:33Speaker 1: you know, you're off talking about fire extinguisher training, or
- 28:36Speaker 1: you're off talking about, well what about you know, what
- 28:39Speaker 1: about these fire blankets? I get that question? Or what
- 28:42Speaker 1: about what kind of extinguishers should I have? Or you know,
- 28:48Speaker 1: I love this carpet, or what about space heaters? You know,
- 28:51Speaker 1: bedshakers for the hearing impaired. It's it looks like an
- 28:55Speaker 1: alarm clock, but it's a little I call it like
- 28:58Speaker 1: it looks like a mouse for your laptop, and it
- 29:01Speaker 1: goes underneath the pillow of your you know, in your bed,
- 29:05Speaker 1: and it connects with your smoke alarm. So when your
- 29:07Speaker 1: smoke alarm goes off, it will vibrate underneath your pillow
- 29:11Speaker 1: and notify you that, hey, you have a fire somewhere
- 29:13Speaker 1: is in the home.
- 29:14Speaker 2: You just said notify, and earlier you were you were
- 29:18Speaker 2: saying prevention, notification, and evacuation. Those are those are the
- 29:24Speaker 2: keys right there?
- 29:27Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think we mentioned earlier that you know,
- 29:30Speaker 1: back in the day, when the fire alarm went off,
- 29:34Speaker 1: you had probably ten to eight minutes to get out
- 29:37Speaker 1: of your home. Now it's less than two minutes, so
- 29:40Speaker 1: less than two minutes, within two and a half three
- 29:43Speaker 1: foot off the floor. Heat in your home, once flame
- 29:47Speaker 1: gets to fire, gets to open flame, so they call
- 29:50Speaker 1: it in sympathy in simpient stage where it's smoldering and
- 29:53Speaker 1: it's smoking like crazy. Once it becomes open flame, within
- 29:57Speaker 1: the first couple of minutes, it's over five hundred gas
- 30:00Speaker 1: about a foot off the floor two feet off the floor,
- 30:03Speaker 1: so it's very very quick.
- 30:07Speaker 2: Why why why is that? Uh? Why are we around
- 30:11Speaker 2: two minutes or less?
- 30:13Speaker 1: It's it's the way furnishing. Furnishings are designed and built, carpeting,
- 30:19Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. You know, the molded boards, you
- 30:22Speaker 1: know that you see now in the basements, you know,
- 30:25Speaker 1: instead of the you know, you don't have those huge
- 30:27Speaker 1: trees anymore, right because of forestry, forestry services and stuff,
- 30:32Speaker 1: you know, building homes and that kind of stuff. Now
- 30:34Speaker 1: you've got the molded and the glued particle boards or
- 30:38Speaker 1: whatever you want to call them, those big beams. That's
- 30:40Speaker 1: glue holding that together. So that's a flammable material.
- 30:48Speaker 2: You would think that they would make it non flammable.
- 30:52Speaker 1: You would think, yeah, yeah, but you got you got
- 30:56Speaker 1: to build homes right.
- 30:57Speaker 2: Wow. Uh. A couple of comments here. Vermont was the
- 31:04Speaker 2: first state in the world to pass photo electric only
- 31:09Speaker 2: smoke alarms. Yes, that's amazing. I didn't know that. There
- 31:13Speaker 2: are new homes, homes that are sold apartments and have
- 31:18Speaker 2: a huge impact. Are a huge difference. More to come.
- 31:23Speaker 2: But we're missing a huge population, the people who still
- 31:27Speaker 2: have their homes with ionized alarms or no alarms at all.
- 31:33Speaker 2: How do we reach that population to get them to
- 31:35Speaker 2: install photo electric alarms? And are these people that are
- 31:41Speaker 2: dying in Vermont, or these are the people that are
- 31:44Speaker 2: dying in Vermont, how do we educate them and protect
- 31:47Speaker 2: them with the right alarms.
- 31:49Speaker 1: So that is a good question, and having something like
- 31:52Speaker 1: this your podcast for us to get that information out
- 31:56Speaker 1: there is one of the ways that we get the
- 32:00Speaker 1: get the word out there. Working with local fire departments,
- 32:03Speaker 1: we've actually I've actually started partnering with EMS groups as well,
- 32:08Speaker 1: not just fire departments, but EMS when they go out
- 32:11Speaker 1: excuse me, when they go out and do a lift
- 32:14Speaker 1: assist or they do a general good intent call to
- 32:18Speaker 1: go visit somebody. A lot of EMS groups are a
- 32:22Speaker 1: crossover I call them crossover where part of some of
- 32:25Speaker 1: them are fire department personnel as well, or you know,
- 32:29Speaker 1: so they work on a fire department, but on their
- 32:31Speaker 1: days off they work for EMS, so they understand what
- 32:34Speaker 1: the look for with first alarms, you know, that kind
- 32:39Speaker 1: of thing. But also I can go in and do
- 32:41Speaker 1: an educational program for EMS to help educate them and
- 32:45Speaker 1: what to look for for alarms, placement of alarms, that
- 32:48Speaker 1: kind of stuff. That's another way to get the word
- 32:50Speaker 1: out there.
- 32:51Speaker 2: Just had Jody Emerson in here yesterday from the Central
- 32:55Speaker 2: Vermont Career Center, and I note that they do fire
- 33:00Speaker 2: fire safety and like a fire school, their education with
- 33:06Speaker 2: with youth, which is so important. And District six and
- 33:09Speaker 2: eight are are teaming up with the Central from my
- 33:13Speaker 2: Career Center doing some big things in the coming year,
- 33:15Speaker 2: which is which is wonderful, you know. I I ask,
- 33:21Speaker 2: why are they even making ionization alarms? Why?
- 33:27Speaker 1: It's like it's like everything else, right, it's evolving. We
- 33:31Speaker 1: understand that, uh, you know, photoelectric is better sensing. It's
- 33:37Speaker 1: earlier in the incipient stage of a fire, so it's
- 33:39Speaker 1: quicker notification. Right, So things progress. There's also a newer uh,
- 33:44Speaker 1: there's a newer COO alarm that is coming out that
- 33:48Speaker 1: measures that lower levels of CEO. I believe I'm trying
- 33:52Speaker 1: to scratching some brain cell here, but a CEO alarm
- 33:57Speaker 1: is designed to start alarming when it senses carbon monoxide
- 34:02Speaker 1: in your home at twenty parts per million. I believe
- 34:04Speaker 1: it is for longer than a fifteen minute interval. So
- 34:08Speaker 1: if the alarm never reaches fifteen minutes, or if the
- 34:11Speaker 1: sensing never reaches fifteen minutes in duration, but you go
- 34:15Speaker 1: up to about twenty let's say it's I don't know,
- 34:19Speaker 1: I let's say it's ten minutes of twenty parts per million,
- 34:21Speaker 1: then it drops back down, but then it creeps back up,
- 34:24Speaker 1: but it never reaches that fifteen minute time window. That
- 34:27Speaker 1: alarm won't go off and notify you. But low levels,
- 34:30Speaker 1: they're finding out. Low levels of constant carbon monoxide in
- 34:33Speaker 1: your home helps. It causes some health effects of course,
- 34:37Speaker 1: of course, so newhere alarms are coming out now they
- 34:41Speaker 1: won't alarm at the lower levels, but you will have
- 34:45Speaker 1: readouts of that low level of carbon monoxide, so you can,
- 34:50Speaker 1: you know, you pay attention to that, and you look
- 34:51Speaker 1: and say, geez, I'm always having like ten parts per
- 34:53Speaker 1: million here, I have to have something checked to see
- 34:56Speaker 1: why am I having these low levels.
- 34:58Speaker 2: It's amazing, amazing to hear this from you, and hopefully
- 35:07Speaker 2: it's thinking people that are listening, think what's in my house?
- 35:14Speaker 2: What do I have? Yeah? In what rooms? Where? When's
- 35:18Speaker 2: the last time I checked my patterns?
- 35:21Speaker 1: Part of this too, JD is not it's not the
- 35:24Speaker 1: fear factor. It's what we're trying to do is educate.
- 35:27Speaker 1: So an educated population is a informed population, right, So
- 35:34Speaker 1: we give them the tools, like with the fire department,
- 35:37Speaker 1: we give them the tools and they help better understand
- 35:41Speaker 1: how to get the information out there. And the more
- 35:43Speaker 1: the public understands, and the more the public knows, the
- 35:45Speaker 1: more educated they are and they can make proper choices.
- 35:49Speaker 1: You know, we don't we don't want to tell a
- 35:54Speaker 1: homeowner what to do. All we want to do is
- 35:56Speaker 1: inform them that these are the right things they should
- 35:59Speaker 1: look for.
- 36:02Speaker 2: Folks listening right now, if they would like a home
- 36:11Speaker 2: a free home analysis, should they contact AIGHTO two Fire
- 36:17Speaker 2: Safe or should they what do they do? Or do
- 36:20Speaker 2: they contact their local fire.
- 36:21Speaker 1: Contact their local fire department. Go through there and then
- 36:24Speaker 1: the fire departments will notify me and I can help
- 36:26Speaker 1: them set up a program.
- 36:28Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, it's that simple.
- 36:30Speaker 1: It's that simple. Yeah, I mean, and obviously so some
- 36:34Speaker 1: fire departments within the state of Vermont. I mean, you
- 36:36Speaker 1: have really small departments that have thirty calls a year.
- 36:39Speaker 1: You have some departments that have thirty calls an hour. Right,
- 36:42Speaker 1: So there's a wide range of fire departments out there,
- 36:47Speaker 1: in a wide range of skilled fire departments and staffed
- 36:51Speaker 1: fire departments. A lot of fire departments they'll rely on
- 36:53Speaker 1: a mutual aid system like Grotten for example. They'll rely
- 36:57Speaker 1: on their neighboring town to help them with larger fires.
- 37:02Speaker 1: But they also team up for fire education as well.
- 37:05Speaker 1: Swanton where I'm from, Swanton and Highgate we did a
- 37:08Speaker 1: mutual aid fire prevention program in the schools once, so
- 37:12Speaker 1: I partnered with Highgate and we co taught fire prevention
- 37:15Speaker 1: in the school. We do a lot of that type
- 37:17Speaker 1: of stuff. So you're sharing information, you're sharing ideas with
- 37:22Speaker 1: local fire departments. And then now you're expanding your staff
- 37:26Speaker 1: to be able to go do these home safety visits.
- 37:29Speaker 1: So you're not relying on your group of fifteen or
- 37:31Speaker 1: twenty firefighters. Now you're expanding that to forty potentially firefighters
- 37:35Speaker 1: to go out and do a home safety visit.
- 37:38Speaker 2: What do you say to our younger demographic that is
- 37:46Speaker 2: maybe in high school and thinking beyond high school and
- 37:49Speaker 2: thinking about getting into fire science.
- 37:53Speaker 1: So you mentioned Central Vermont has a program here in
- 37:58Speaker 1: the high school. I know the Saint Albans Career Center
- 38:02Speaker 1: also has a firefighter program. Swanton has a cadet program
- 38:06Speaker 1: where we teach firefighters that are I believe sixteen. You
- 38:11Speaker 1: can come in and become a cadet firefighter. So you'll
- 38:15Speaker 1: get a pager, you'll get a set of gear, you
- 38:17Speaker 1: would not respond to a fire, but post the fire,
- 38:21Speaker 1: they would probably have you come in and help pick
- 38:24Speaker 1: up hose. You come to Monday night trainings, that kind
- 38:27Speaker 1: of stuff. You educate people on your educate the younger
- 38:31Speaker 1: adults on fire prevention, fire safety basically. And we've had
- 38:37Speaker 1: I can tell you that we've had assistant chiefs lieutenants
- 38:41Speaker 1: that came up through high school within Swanton Fire that
- 38:46Speaker 1: through the cadet program. You know, once you that bug
- 38:50Speaker 1: is bit you, boy, it's hard to shake it.
- 38:52Speaker 2: I've heard that before.
- 38:54Speaker 1: I've went thirty six years. I've retired since COVID in
- 38:59Speaker 1: a middle of COVID. So my prior, my prior life
- 39:03Speaker 1: I was. I used to work for IBM for twenty
- 39:06Speaker 1: six years. I was a HASMAT Tech all twenty six years,
- 39:09Speaker 1: so I've been has MATT Tech for plus thirty six years.
- 39:13Speaker 1: I retired from the State HASMAT team. I used to
- 39:16Speaker 1: be on the State has MATT. I used to be
- 39:18Speaker 1: on Swanton Fire as well, thirty six years. I retired
- 39:22Speaker 1: through COVID in the middle of COVID because my other
- 39:25Speaker 1: career I was a Swanton village manager, so I had
- 39:28Speaker 1: to manage the community and trying to figure out how
- 39:31Speaker 1: do you run a community in the middle of COVID.
- 39:33Speaker 1: So something had to give and I had to focus
- 39:36Speaker 1: on the community. So I backed off and retired from
- 39:39Speaker 1: fire department and state has.
- 39:40Speaker 2: Matt But you don't check out, man, You still get
- 39:44Speaker 2: shirt your nails in.
- 39:46Speaker 1: I haven't figured out how to retire. This is my
- 39:49Speaker 1: third career. I'm still the emergency manager emergency management director
- 39:53Speaker 1: for Swanton for plus. Nineteen eighty eight is when I
- 39:56Speaker 1: became Swanton's emergency management director of.
- 40:00Speaker 2: Fire departments, Mont Pilier, Berlin, Perry Have. I believe those
- 40:05Speaker 2: are the three I could be missing. One have teamed
- 40:09Speaker 2: up recently with the Central Vermont Hospital. Yes, and Serve pro.
- 40:16Speaker 2: But what's that all about?
- 40:17Speaker 1: So that was part of they did. Basically, they would
- 40:21Speaker 1: give out an alarm to newborn the families of a
- 40:25Speaker 1: newborn before they left the Uh. You know, it's kind
- 40:29Speaker 1: of like you get a car seat, you get a
- 40:31Speaker 1: smoke alarm as well. Yeah, and so through our fire
- 40:35Speaker 1: Safe Atal two program, we donated along with Berlin and
- 40:38Speaker 1: those and Berry and mont Pilier fire departments, we donated
- 40:44Speaker 1: fire alarms for Central Vermont Birthing Center. So they could
- 40:49Speaker 1: give those alarms out to families.
- 40:51Speaker 2: They're thinking about everything other than a fire. They're thinking
- 40:56Speaker 2: about the car seat, they're thinking about the red or
- 41:02Speaker 2: the blue or or whatever it is. Yeah, but they're
- 41:06Speaker 2: just not thinking about fire.
- 41:10Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's.
- 41:12Speaker 2: Or carbon monoxide right right.
- 41:14Speaker 1: And the alarms that we handed out they were dual
- 41:17Speaker 1: so CEO and smoke, so they detected both.
- 41:23Speaker 2: When was that time just recently?
- 41:25Speaker 1: Yeah, last week, last week, I'm trying to remember how
- 41:28Speaker 1: many I think it was plus seventy alarms that were
- 41:31Speaker 1: given out to the Center of Vermont Medical.
- 41:34Speaker 2: Center and Surf Pro many that that that's been part of,
- 41:40Speaker 2: like almost like a family tradition for them to do
- 41:43Speaker 2: that with local hospitals.
- 41:46Speaker 1: That was pretty cool. Yeah, they well, yeah, a lot
- 41:49Speaker 1: of area. I don't know what the other I think
- 41:50Speaker 1: they did, Copley Yeah, also I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm
- 41:55Speaker 1: not sure where else they went, but yeah, I guess
- 41:58Speaker 1: the prior owner used to do that. And when the
- 42:02Speaker 1: Sun took over the company, Yeah, same thing. COVID kind
- 42:05Speaker 1: of slowed things down and he said, hey, we got
- 42:08Speaker 1: to bring this back up, and Joe did some outreach
- 42:11Speaker 1: and uh, I love love having that guy for for
- 42:15Speaker 1: a partner for sure, and uh I got roped in
- 42:17Speaker 1: and uh yeah, I was an honor being there.
- 42:19Speaker 2: That's so cool A question that that's just come in.
- 42:22Speaker 2: How dangerous is living in an apartment with four times
- 42:26Speaker 2: the recommended radon levels?
- 42:29Speaker 1: Okay, so that's not my wheelhouse, so I can't answer that.
- 42:34Speaker 2: Yeah, well, y'all are such an integral part of our community.
- 42:47Speaker 2: What you all do, not just fighting the fires, but
- 42:52Speaker 2: preventing and educating is so tremendous. You know. I was
- 42:57Speaker 2: at I pulled into a fire department not long ago,
- 43:01Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago, and there was some training
- 43:04Speaker 2: that was that was going on with a young man
- 43:09Speaker 2: who was fully suited up and learning some techniques. And
- 43:15Speaker 2: I got to I pulled in, parked, parked my truck.
- 43:20Speaker 2: I was actually looking for Joe and was just observing
- 43:24Speaker 2: this and I'm like, this guy is just busting his
- 43:31Speaker 2: ass learning this this stuff, and this is I don't
- 43:38Speaker 2: know for me not seeing this all the time. That
- 43:41Speaker 2: was really cool for me. I'm like, man, that makes
- 43:44Speaker 2: me feel so good.
- 43:46Speaker 1: You know, there's there's so many there's so many things
- 43:48Speaker 1: within that fire service career, even as a volunteer. I have,
- 43:55Speaker 1: you know, thirty six years, I've seen it quite a
- 43:57Speaker 1: bit of stuff. You I've gone through months of therapy
- 44:01Speaker 1: after I retired from the fire service. You know, there's
- 44:04Speaker 1: certain things you just can't unsee, right, And so just
- 44:08Speaker 1: I'll do a sidebar really quick. I am a big
- 44:10Speaker 1: proponent of mental health for our first responders. Plain and simple, Okay,
- 44:16Speaker 1: there are there. You know, we need to take care
- 44:19Speaker 1: of our mental health. Plane and simple, yeah, okay, and
- 44:22Speaker 1: I'll leave it there. But there's so many things that
- 44:24Speaker 1: we do in our life with the fire education and
- 44:27Speaker 1: the fire prevention and fighting fires, that we probably won't
- 44:32Speaker 1: ever see that benefit that how we've impacted someone's life
- 44:36Speaker 1: in a certain way. I'll tell you a quick side
- 44:39Speaker 1: story if I could so. Village manager. So, I had
- 44:44Speaker 1: one of my employees come in and just happened to
- 44:46Speaker 1: sit across the desk from me, and he just sat
- 44:49Speaker 1: down there and I'm on a computer doing my thing,
- 44:51Speaker 1: you know and stuff, and look over and it says, hey,
- 44:53Speaker 1: what's up. He says, oh, you know, it was just
- 44:55Speaker 1: an anniversary of his brother dying got killed in a
- 44:59Speaker 1: car accident. And I says, oh, really, he said when
- 45:02Speaker 1: and he told me, and I said, well, there was
- 45:03Speaker 1: the location and he told me. I said, I told him.
- 45:07Speaker 1: I happened to be the officer in charge of that
- 45:10Speaker 1: fire call that day. The gentleman died instantly, and I
- 45:16Speaker 1: told him, I said, I stayed right by his side.
- 45:19Speaker 1: I had. I had a thing that I did any
- 45:24Speaker 1: fatality of a car accident, I would stay by the
- 45:30Speaker 1: victim until the corner showed up and the body was removed,
- 45:34Speaker 1: something I always done. So anyway, he looked at me
- 45:38Speaker 1: and I told him. He says, I, I never left
- 45:40Speaker 1: your brother's side. I sat there, and it was an
- 45:42Speaker 1: hour and a half. It was probably twenty degrees out
- 45:45Speaker 1: in a crappy day, and once the corner came, you know,
- 45:49Speaker 1: we removed his brother and took him away. I told
- 45:54Speaker 1: him I was there, and he broke down into tears.
- 45:57Speaker 1: He said, knowing you were there, my brothers is I
- 46:00Speaker 1: never knew how that happened, but knowing you were there
- 46:04Speaker 1: helps me put closure. So I had the privilege of
- 46:10Speaker 1: knowing one thing that I have done that impacted someone's life.
- 46:16Speaker 1: But we go through so many days that we don't
- 46:19Speaker 1: know how we impact another person's life, either negatively, or positively.
- 46:24Speaker 1: But you always should have that motivation to do the
- 46:29Speaker 1: right thing, regardless of who is there seeing you.
- 46:33Speaker 2: So anyway, that's powerful man. According to the CDC, and
- 46:41Speaker 2: I just pulled this up, ninety seven firefighters and one
- 46:47Speaker 2: hundred and fifty five police officers die each year in
- 46:54Speaker 2: the line of duty. This is an important time. This
- 47:00Speaker 2: is a great time. It's always a good time to
- 47:04Speaker 2: have someone on to talk about fire safety, fire prevention.
- 47:11Speaker 2: As you said, uh, education is the key. Having having
- 47:18Speaker 2: the knowledge in the education is probably the biggest proponent
- 47:23Speaker 2: to fire prevention. I would love to have you on
- 47:30Speaker 2: more frequently on again. Maybe we could get Joe in here.
- 47:35Speaker 1: That'd be cool.
- 47:36Speaker 2: I'd love that. Yeah, let's you know, let's let's do that.
- 47:39Speaker 2: And and frankly, it doesn't really matter what time of year.
- 47:43Speaker 2: But you know, during these colder months, you know, we've
- 47:50Speaker 2: got venting to to think about. We have snowfall, we
- 47:53Speaker 2: have the holidays coming, holidays coming up. Yeah, there's there's
- 47:59Speaker 2: a lot of stuff going on, and you guys serve
- 48:02Speaker 2: as a great reminder to me to just kind of
- 48:07Speaker 2: tap the brakes in a few other areas of life
- 48:11Speaker 2: that we're very preoccupied with and remember fire safety. I
- 48:19Speaker 2: mean it's not the most exciting subject to talk about,
- 48:22Speaker 2: but think about those smoke detectors, those fire alarms that
- 48:28Speaker 2: you have in your home, and whether or not you
- 48:31Speaker 2: have a fire extinguisher, and if so, how many and
- 48:34Speaker 2: how are they rated? And when was the last time
- 48:36Speaker 2: that you know they have a shelf life? Too, when
- 48:38Speaker 2: was the last time that they've been checked? Turn them
- 48:42Speaker 2: upside out and give them a bang with a rubber
- 48:45Speaker 2: mallet and make sure that they're ready to go. This
- 48:49Speaker 2: is great stuff, man. This is a day that is
- 48:53Speaker 2: serving as a National Day of Gratitude, National Firm Responders Day.
- 49:02Speaker 2: We pay tribute to the endless hours and sacrifice around
- 49:07Speaker 2: the clock that all first responders give to our communities.
- 49:15Speaker 2: And it's one of the most dangerous jobs in the country.
- 49:17Speaker 2: I think most of us know that we should take
- 49:21Speaker 2: a moment today pay tribute to fallen first responders as well,
- 49:25Speaker 2: and remember that if you have any questions, what's what's
- 49:31Speaker 2: the best way to learn more about A two fire
- 49:35Speaker 2: safe And and maybe too, is there a website? Is
- 49:40Speaker 2: it firesafety dot Vermont dot gov? Believe so that's what
- 49:45Speaker 2: it is. That's it right there, And I'm gonna put
- 49:47Speaker 2: that in the in the comments here. This is amazing,
- 49:51Speaker 2: rech and I hope you come back. I hope you
- 49:54Speaker 2: come back soon. Let's do this again. Let's let's get
- 49:58Speaker 2: Joe in here as well, and we invite any other firefighters,
- 50:04Speaker 2: fire departments, first responders to get in here and keep
- 50:09Speaker 2: banging this drum. Good stuff, great stuff. Thanks thanks for
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