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- 0:00Speaker 1: At 275 at the Whitewater split. Crews are pulling out
- 0:04Speaker 1: a semi out of the median. Coming up next, right
- 0:08Speaker 1: after this interview, our next guest has a tryout with
- 0:12Speaker 1: the New York Giants. He could be their very next quarterback.
- 0:17Speaker 1: Judge Knapp is next. Chuck Ingram, 55KRC, the talk station.
- 0:21Speaker 2: 832, 55KRC, the talk station. I have to ask Judge
- 0:28Speaker 2: Ed Napolitano about his knees. Can they stand up to
- 0:31Speaker 2: the challenge? Judge Ed Napolitano, welcome back to the morning show.
- 0:34Speaker 2: I didn't realize you were going to be quarterback for
- 0:36Speaker 2: the Giants.
- 0:38Speaker 3: Neither did I. I'm old enough to be Jackson Dart's grandfather,
- 0:43Speaker 3: and he's a superb athlete. But what a crisis and
- 0:47Speaker 3: a tragedy. It appears he's going to be out for
- 0:51Speaker 3: the season. Anyway, these things happen. These kids are young
- 0:54Speaker 3: and healthy, and his day will come.
- 0:56Speaker 2: Well, we had it happen with Joe Burrow, too. And,
- 0:58Speaker 2: you know, of course, you're not alone this year. Apparently, what,
- 1:00Speaker 2: five quarterbacks are injured now?
- 1:03Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:04Speaker 2: It's pretty bad. Anyway. All right. Real quick here, Judd.
- 1:06Speaker 2: Donald Trump in front of the U.N. yesterday, and this
- 1:08Speaker 2: dovetails quite nicely with your column that comes out tonight
- 1:11Speaker 2: at midnight when war comes home, a constitutional warning. And
- 1:14Speaker 2: he had this to say, you know, now I have
- 1:15Speaker 2: a big decision to make. Will a deal be made
- 1:17Speaker 2: with Iran that lets them rebuild and create a far
- 1:20Speaker 2: greater country than it ever was before, maybe one of
- 1:22Speaker 2: the greatest in the Middle East or ever in the world?
- 1:25Speaker 2: Or do I annihilate the Islamic Republic and do it quickly,
- 1:28Speaker 2: never giving them a chance to kill and destroy people
- 1:30Speaker 2: and countries again? Do I drive them into hell with
- 1:33Speaker 2: no chance of survival and no hope of future greatness
- 1:35Speaker 2: or generations? That sounds to me suspiciously like nuclear war.
- 1:39Speaker 2: But putting that aside, the predicate or the preceding comments
- 1:42Speaker 2: were related to the November election. He says the Iranians
- 1:44Speaker 2: are going to wait it out. They want me to
- 1:46Speaker 2: lose in the November elections, but I'm not on the ticket.
- 1:49Speaker 2: And whatever they want, whatever the outcome of the elections,
- 1:51Speaker 2: it's not going to change the Well, the commander-in-chief of
- 1:54Speaker 2: the U.S.
- 1:54Speaker 1: Military.
- 1:54Speaker 2: So he's saying this is going to go on regardless
- 1:57Speaker 2: of the election until he gets what he wants or
- 1:59Speaker 2: he wipes them off the face of the earth. Now,
- 2:02Speaker 2: that being said, you and I have been over this
- 2:05Speaker 2: a bunch of times. You talk about it in your column.
- 2:08Speaker 2: Ever since World War II, presidents of both political stripes
- 2:10Speaker 2: have waged war without congressional authority or any authorization. What
- 2:14Speaker 2: happens if Congress flips, the Senate and the House both
- 2:19Speaker 2: flip into Democrat hands? and they tell Trump that, you know,
- 2:23Speaker 2: we're asserting the War Powers Resolution in 1973, and you
- 2:26Speaker 2: are over time, you must pull the plug. Can he
- 2:30Speaker 2: say no and raise his metaphorical middle finger? Or maybe
- 2:33Speaker 2: that becomes the vehicle to challenge the constitutionality of the
- 2:36Speaker 2: War Powers Resolution in 1973, which I think you and
- 2:38Speaker 2: I both believe is an unconstitutional delegation of congressional authority.
- 2:43Speaker 3: Well, it's a fascinating question. I almost can't imagine the
- 2:49Speaker 3: Supreme Court telling the president he has to stop fighting
- 2:52Speaker 3: a war, but yet the War Powers Resolution is the
- 2:55Speaker 3: law of the land. It was adopted over the veto
- 2:59Speaker 3: of President Nixon. In my view, it's unconstitutional in two respects.
- 3:04Speaker 3: Nixon vetoed it because he felt it unconstitutionally impaired his
- 3:10Speaker 3: ability to wage war wherever he wanted. In my view,
- 3:13Speaker 3: it's the opposite side of the coin. It unconstitutionally delegates
- 3:18Speaker 3: away war-making power to the president, unlimited war-making power for
- 3:23Speaker 3: the first 60 or 90 days, depending upon how he
- 3:26Speaker 3: wants to frame it. But there's another clause in there
- 3:30Speaker 3: that is probably unconstitutional, and it says this is not
- 3:37Speaker 3: subject to review by the president. Now, whenever both houses
- 3:41Speaker 3: of Congress enact legislation and a war powers resolution telling
- 3:46Speaker 3: him to stop as a piece of legislation, he can
- 3:50Speaker 3: veto it or sign it. Saying that he doesn't have
- 3:54Speaker 3: veto power probably violates the Constitution, and at least one
- 3:59Speaker 3: or two Supreme Court opinions are coming to mind. They
- 4:04Speaker 3: could insert the prohibition on the use of funds for
- 4:10Speaker 3: the war into legislation that he must have, like the
- 4:14Speaker 3: National Defense Authorization Act, which he couldn't possibly not sign
- 4:20Speaker 3: without shutting down the Defense Department. But that's about as
- 4:25Speaker 3: far as they can go with this. I don't think
- 4:29Speaker 3: that any court is going to get involved. They are loath,
- 4:33Speaker 3: particularly under Chief Justice John Roberts, to get involved in
- 4:38Speaker 3: foreign policy.
- 4:39Speaker 2: Well, in a political landscape that's just filled with landmines,
- 4:43Speaker 2: you know, Democrats are going to also have to contemplate
- 4:46Speaker 2: the reality of, well, if you just walk away, you're
- 4:49Speaker 2: giving the Iranians everything in a bag of chips that
- 4:51Speaker 2: they want, and that may not be even tenable for
- 4:54Speaker 2: their own constituents.
- 4:56Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 4:56Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not the one that has to make
- 4:57Speaker 2: these decisions, but I certainly don't see that Democrats taking
- 5:02Speaker 2: over is really going to change the dynamic of the
- 5:04Speaker 2: war that's currently being waged in the Middle East, just
- 5:06Speaker 2: for the multitude of reasons we're talking about.
- 5:08Speaker 3: The other dynamic that will change, and this will happen
- 5:12Speaker 3: repeatedly to the point of aggravating everybody, is they will
- 5:17Speaker 3: probably impeach him over and over and over again. They
- 5:21Speaker 3: won't do it just once. They already have their research done.
- 5:27Speaker 3: They're going to hold public hearings about how he earned
- 5:30Speaker 3: his $ 2 billion while he was president. They're going to
- 5:34Speaker 3: put Witkoff and Kushner, who've been described by foreign diplomats
- 5:38Speaker 3: as sophisticated grifters under oath. They're going to come up
- 5:43Speaker 3: with as much as they can to damage him, to
- 5:47Speaker 3: consume his PR time defending himself rather than moving forward
- 5:54Speaker 3: with whatever the policies of his administration are. I have
- 5:58Speaker 3: to say a comment about the phrase that you read
- 6:01Speaker 3: from the speech yesterday. That's a war crime. It is
- 6:04Speaker 3: a war crime to threaten to slaughter innocents using the
- 6:10Speaker 3: power of the government. And that's what he that's what
- 6:12Speaker 3: he did.
- 6:14Speaker 2: Even notwithstanding the First Amendment right to free speech is
- 6:17Speaker 2: broad as we interpret that.
- 6:18Speaker 3: Well, the war crime is an international crime, so the
- 6:21Speaker 3: First Amendment doesn't apply. This is one of the reasons
- 6:25Speaker 3: he's trying to undermine the International Criminal Court, because he
- 6:31Speaker 3: has properties around the world. If he's indicted by the court,
- 6:34Speaker 3: he won't be able to visit those properties.
- 6:37Speaker 1: Huh.
- 6:39Speaker 2: I never gave that a moment's thought on that. How
- 6:41Speaker 2: about that, Judge Annapolitano? Well, So I guess we're just
- 6:45Speaker 2: in wait and see mode like we've been since post-World
- 6:47Speaker 2: War II and connects with every military engagement we've been
- 6:49Speaker 2: involved with, huh?
- 6:51Speaker 3: Right.
- 6:52Speaker 2: Right.
- 6:52Speaker 3: I mean, who knows what's going to happen? I don't
- 6:58Speaker 3: think the Iranians will negotiate anything. They believe they have
- 7:02Speaker 3: a binding deal with him. He signed the memorandum of
- 7:07Speaker 3: understanding ostentatiously in the Palace of Versailles in front of
- 7:11Speaker 3: an international audience. And then two days later, Someone said,
- 7:15Speaker 3: probably shouldn't have signed it.
- 7:17Speaker 1: Well, I know.
- 7:18Speaker 2: Two days later, the Iranians started bombing boats. It's like,
- 7:21Speaker 2: wait a second. The ink wasn't even dry in the
- 7:23Speaker 2: damn thing. And then, you know, if you read it,
- 7:26Speaker 2: to say it's loosely written and subject to multiple interpretations,
- 7:30Speaker 2: I think, is a valid way of viewing it.
- 7:32Speaker 3: It was written by a guy named J.D. Vance. I
- 7:36Speaker 3: don't think Donald Trump read it before he signed it,
- 7:38Speaker 3: but that's what the Iranians believe is the governing relationship between...
- 7:45Speaker 3: The two countries. The president of Iran and the foreign
- 7:47Speaker 3: minister of Iran are just a couple of blocks from
- 7:50Speaker 3: where I am now. They're at the UN. They're limited
- 7:55Speaker 3: in their ability to travel, but they are here. I
- 7:59Speaker 3: don't know when the last time is that a head
- 8:03Speaker 3: of state with which the United States is at war
- 8:06Speaker 3: has come into the United States. Certainly, the Germans didn't
- 8:09Speaker 3: visit during World War II.
- 8:10Speaker 2: No. I guess that suggests that they at least have
- 8:13Speaker 2: comfort in our commitment to their security.
- 8:16Speaker 3: Yes.
- 8:17Speaker 2: There you go.
- 8:18Speaker 3: Yes, they have been told that the U.S. will protect them,
- 8:21Speaker 3: providing they stay in about a four or five block
- 8:26Speaker 3: radius of the U.N., which if you're looking at Manhattan
- 8:31Speaker 3: is right in the middle, but all the way east
- 8:33Speaker 3: on the East River.
- 8:34Speaker 2: I'm surprised they had that much confidence considering Donald Trump
- 8:37Speaker 2: almost had his head blown off in spite of the
- 8:39Speaker 2: fact that he's got Secret Service working around him all
- 8:41Speaker 2: the time.
- 8:42Speaker 1: Good point.
- 8:44Speaker 2: Judge Annapolitano, you know that memorandum of understanding was rather
- 8:47Speaker 2: suspicious from the get-go when they included Israel and Israel
- 8:50Speaker 2: committing to getting out of Gaza or whatever it was.
- 8:53Speaker 2: They weren't even signatories to the agreement. Found that puzzling, too.
- 8:58Speaker 3: That's probably the reason why he rejected it. He read
- 9:01Speaker 3: it afterwards and said, well, BB's not going to go
- 9:03Speaker 3: along with this. Why did I sign it?
- 9:05Speaker 1: I know.
- 9:07Speaker 2: Excuse me. Judging Freedom is the podcast. I presume you
- 9:11Speaker 2: have your usual Wednesday guests on. Is there any addition
- 9:13Speaker 2: that you want to let my listeners know before we
- 9:14Speaker 2: part company? I do.
- 9:15Speaker 3: Well, Professor Jeffrey Sachs will give us a preview of
- 9:19Speaker 3: what Prime Minister Netanyahu is likely to tell. a largely
- 9:24Speaker 3: empty General Assembly chamber when he addresses them tomorrow.
- 9:28Speaker 2: Astute observation. Judge Anna Napolitano, we'll do this again next Wednesday, sir.
- 9:32Speaker 2: God bless you.
- 9:34Speaker 3: Thank you.
- 9:34Speaker 1: All the best to you, Brian. Bye-bye.
- 9:36Speaker 2: Thank you, my friend.
- 9:36Speaker 1: 841 right now.
- 9:37Speaker 2: 55 KRC, the talk station.