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Mac & Bone Hour 2: SEC Kings of College Football??? · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Now everyone has seen what's happened.
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  Speaker 2: With the videos he's basically unreachable unhinged talk to some
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  Speaker 2: scouts who were in that region there's been a lot
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  Speaker 2: of signs and so when i tell you this from
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  Speaker 2: league circles it's directly talking to people in the league
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  Speaker 2: who have been working in this area specifically who know
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  Speaker 2: the most about the inner workings of what's going on
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  Speaker 2: and the entitlement, having all the answers, lack of respect
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  Speaker 2: for authority, coaches, everything else.
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  Speaker 1: This had to be the year where it went.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it went from six and a half to four
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  Speaker 2: and a half, but my gosh, he worked on his craft.
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  Speaker 1: And now you have this indefinite suspension. There's no way.
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  Speaker 3: That is Todd McShay on his McShay Show podcast. So
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  Speaker 3: that's interesting, Bone, as far as Dylan Stewart moving forward goes.
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  Speaker 3: It's probably, it might not be good news for his
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  Speaker 3: draft stock, although talent will often trump all. But it's probably, it's...
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  Speaker 3: I guess it, I guess it explains a lot. It
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  Speaker 3: sounds like the NFL scout types bone in the Southeast
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  Speaker 3: are not very surprised by the defiance he showed towards
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  Speaker 3: Beamer and the assistants at one point, refusing to come
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  Speaker 3: out of the game, not to mention the punch of
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  Speaker 3: the Alabama player. It sounds like he kind of, that's
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  Speaker 3: the book on him behind the scenes. is, you know,
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  Speaker 3: a bit of an attitude. And we'll see how that
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  Speaker 3: hurts him moving forward. I mean, I just, and I
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  Speaker 3: don't even know. Like, my first inclination is to say,
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  Speaker 3: forget about his draft stock. Can he get out there
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  Speaker 3: and play to his potential and be a good teammate
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  Speaker 3: and be coachable for the Gamecocks?
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  Speaker 1: Be healthy.
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  Speaker 3: But there's no guarantee. there's no guarantee bone that he
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  Speaker 3: even plays again for the, I have no idea where
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  Speaker 3: that goes.
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  Speaker 1: I'll be honest.
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  Speaker 4: I was surprised that they got him back for one
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  Speaker 4: more year. Cause last year it started to look like, Oh,
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  Speaker 4: he didn't really seem all that happy. And you started
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  Speaker 4: to see a little bit of the attitude come out.
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  Speaker 4: So I was kind of surprised that I know that, that,
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  Speaker 4: that money is a big deal, but I was surprised
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  Speaker 4: that he didn't go portal. And, and they pleasantly surprised
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  Speaker 4: that they got them back. But between the, the health, the,
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  Speaker 4: and the attitude and it's just it's just it hasn't
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  Speaker 4: worked here in 2026 so even if they get them
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  Speaker 4: back what version are they getting back are they getting
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  Speaker 4: a guy that's ready to go and be that second
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  Speaker 4: team all-american or are they getting a guy that's just
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  Speaker 4: seemingly going through the process of college football to get
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  Speaker 4: to the nfl mag you see that in college basketball
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  Speaker 4: sometimes where those talented guys are just going to play
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  Speaker 4: college basketball because it's something they have to do before
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  Speaker 4: they go pro. Does Dylan Stewart want to play college
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  Speaker 4: football or was this just a vessel to get him
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  Speaker 4: to the NFL? And I don't know right now if
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  Speaker 4: he's all locked in on college.
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  Speaker 3: The problem is if you don't put out good tape
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  Speaker 3: this year, and in fairness, he's been injured. He played
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  Speaker 3: 14 snaps his first game back 29 on, on Saturday.
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  Speaker 3: So he's starting to ramp it back up. But, like,
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  Speaker 3: you are not helping your draft stock. You have to play.
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  Speaker 3: You're making $ 1. 5 million to do it. How about you
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  Speaker 3: go out there and actually help your stock and not
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  Speaker 3: look like you're going to be a cancer to your
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  Speaker 3: NFL team? And Bebop chimes in and says CBS mocked
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  Speaker 3: Dylan Stewart to us at No. 9. Uh, we're going
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  Speaker 3: to get Scorton back next year. That's going to feel
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  Speaker 3: like a draft pick all over again. So I don't
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  Speaker 3: even know about the position. I'm just going to say this,
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  Speaker 3: give me the P give me the P man. And
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  Speaker 3: I'm not talking about Willie. Give me Colin Simmons over
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  Speaker 3: Dylan Stewart. Give me the guy that does the restroom
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  Speaker 3: simulation celebration over the guy that just looks to be
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  Speaker 3: a bad teammate.
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  Speaker 1: And totally uncoachable. P man, not the punch man. Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk SEC. This ought to get people fired up.
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  Speaker 3: I was reading an article in The Athletic yesterday declaring
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  Speaker 3: the SEC is back atop the college football world. And
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  Speaker 3: they make a ton of good points in there. And
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if I can refute that. that right now,
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  Speaker 3: through four weeks of the college football season, as much
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  Speaker 3: as the SEC annoys me, I feel like you have
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  Speaker 3: to tip your hat to them, Bone, and say they
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  Speaker 3: look to be the best conference in college football. Now,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sure if everybody's going to want to do that,
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  Speaker 3: but I think inevitably the question is, are things going
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  Speaker 3: to be different come playoff time? They're five and eight
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  Speaker 3: in the playoff since they went to 12 teams. They
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  Speaker 3: obviously have not had a team in the championship game
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  Speaker 3: in the last two years. They didn't have a team
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  Speaker 3: in the semifinals last year as well, Bone. So I
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  Speaker 3: think there's two questions here. One is, are you willing
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  Speaker 3: to concede that the SEC looks to be the best
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  Speaker 3: conference right now? But are you also feeling like, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so-and-so and so-and-so watch their deep runs in the playoff?
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  Speaker 3: Or do you all still think they haven't proved crap
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  Speaker 3: until they do it in the playoff? What do you think, Bone,
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  Speaker 3: about the whole SEC, Big Ten battle for supremacy so far?
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  Speaker 4: Right now, I think it's swinging back towards the SEC
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  Speaker 4: because Florida is on the come up. That's a big
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  Speaker 4: deal for the SEC. I'm not saying that they're all
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  Speaker 4: the way back, but that's a big deal. But I
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  Speaker 4: think the biggest deal of all this, it's not just–
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  Speaker 4: The amount of ranked teams, they do have a ton.
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  Speaker 4: They have one, two, seven, eight, 11, nine. They got
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  Speaker 4: so many ranked teams. But I think the biggest deal
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  Speaker 4: in that, Mac, is the fact that they haven't really
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  Speaker 4: had a team that we've deemed as, oh, they look
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  Speaker 4: like the best team in the last couple of years. Oh,
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  Speaker 4: they look like they're the favorite to win the national title.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like them.
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  Speaker 4: I don't root for them, but right now, Georgia looks
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  Speaker 4: like they are back to being the national title-level Georgia teams.
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  Speaker 4: The SEC's had a lot of really good teams. They've
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  Speaker 4: been looking for that team to be great again, to
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  Speaker 4: be that national dominant contender in the postseason. And I
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  Speaker 4: think Texas has won, but Georgia, to me... They look
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  Speaker 4: like the best team right now. That's a huge deal.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good.
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  Speaker 4: It's not just a bunch of playoff teams. It's a
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  Speaker 4: bunch of playoff teams and maybe the best team in Georgia.
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  Speaker 3: Let me read off some of the numbers here for
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  Speaker 3: the SEC's case, because this athletic article just, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: and it's hard to argue that through a month, they
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  Speaker 3: look like the best, the best conference ever.
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  Speaker 1: But they don't hand out trophies after a month. You
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: And, like, they got to get back to winning trophies,
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  Speaker 3: to advancing through the playoff. Like, I remember when the
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  Speaker 3: 12-team playoff was announced. Those SEC fans, you know, the
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  Speaker 3: ones y'all work with or the ones you hang out
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  Speaker 3: with at the bar that won't stop yapping.
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  Speaker 1: Like, they told us they were going to dominate the playoff. Right?
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: They were going, we're going to have three in the
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  Speaker 3: Final Four and all that stuff. We're going to win
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  Speaker 3: all the titles. So this year so far, though, the
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  Speaker 3: SEC is 10-2 in its 12 Power Four non-conference games,
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  Speaker 3: including the big Texas rally against Ohio State. The Big
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  Speaker 3: Ten does have the Michigan win over Oklahoma, but Oklahoma
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  Speaker 3: right now, I don't even... The Gamecocks might beat them, y'all.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just going to throw.
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  Speaker 1: That out there.
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  Speaker 4: That's what's crazy about all the ranked teams. OU and
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  Speaker 4: A & M are out of the mix now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, those two teams have flopped. But as a lot
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  Speaker 3: of people are pointing out, Florida is a big reason
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  Speaker 3: why people are saying, whoa, look at the SEC. Florida's
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  Speaker 3: a team that looks better than expected. I would argue Bama.
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  Speaker 3: I think Bama looks better than I thought. Keelan Russell,
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  Speaker 3: I know he had the three-turnover first half against Kentucky,
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  Speaker 3: but Keelan Russell... The way he throws the deep ball,
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  Speaker 3: I feel like you might have seen one or two, Boney.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The dual threat. The Gamecocks DB did see him.
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  Speaker 3: The way Alabama's running the ball, I feel like they're
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  Speaker 3: bringing the run game back, and Russell's a part of that.
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  Speaker 3: So those are some of the teams I would throw
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  Speaker 3: in as maybe better than expected. The Big Ten, on
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  Speaker 3: the other hand, Boney, is only 4-10 in their 14
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  Speaker 3: Power Four non-conference games.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that's a factor. And they should be 3-11.
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  Speaker 5: Because they should have the Michigan loss to Western Michigan.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's not power four. Oh, my bad.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, they should have a horrendous loss like that
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  Speaker 3: on their resume. Oregon has not looked great and did
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  Speaker 3: not look great in the non-conference. Lost to Oklahoma State.
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  Speaker 3: Struggled against Boise. So anyway, and the SEC's got six
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  Speaker 3: of the top 11, but I don't want to act
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  Speaker 3: bone like the rankings. on October 1st or the end
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  Speaker 3: on the be all because you talked about in the
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  Speaker 3: first hour of the show we know how it kind
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  Speaker 3: of works with.
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  Speaker 1: The SEC bump in the rankings you know.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah and a team that's starting to emerge in the
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  Speaker 4: Big Ten is UCLA they're actually a team that they
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  Speaker 4: may end up they may end up being a playoff
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  Speaker 4: team but a lot of teams in the Big Ten
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  Speaker 4: are either down from what we thought or not quite
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  Speaker 4: there yet whether it be Michigan USC's got the loss
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  Speaker 4: Oregon's got the loss Ohio State has their close one.
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  Speaker 1: Penn State, Washington, Washington. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Indiana is still a factor, but I don't know if
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  Speaker 4: they are necessarily they almost lost Northwestern for crying out loud.
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  Speaker 4: Like they're still hey, it's Indiana football of a championship.
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  Speaker 4: It's still white years what it used to be. But
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  Speaker 4: Indiana doesn't seem like they're an unbeatable force either this year.
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  Speaker 4: The Big Ten seems a lot more gettable for those
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  Speaker 4: main teams than they say been the last couple of years.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we will.
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  Speaker 4: Ohio State could lose to Iowa this weekend. That's not
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  Speaker 4: out of the wrong possibility.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think so? Done it before.
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  Speaker 3: Because I don't see that. I feel like Iowa beat
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  Speaker 3: another offensively challenged team. against Michigan. Got a little lucky
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  Speaker 3: there at the end to do it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll see. We will see. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not betting on that, but it's not, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's not out of the wrong possibility.
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  Speaker 3: I kind of think it's a mollywhomping bone for Ohio State,
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  Speaker 3: but we will see.
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  Speaker 1: Every now and then I get a game pick wrong bone.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Every now and then you're
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  Speaker 1: right on one and I'm wrong. You know, it's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: So maybe- So let's talk about, okay, so we've given
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  Speaker 3: the SEC their flowers. This dude said, you just said it, Mac.
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  Speaker 3: It's October 1st, slow clap for the SEC. So let's
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  Speaker 3: take this conversation now like completely forward. Like when y'all
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  Speaker 3: watch these teams a month in to the season, Do
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  Speaker 3: you feel like, oh, yeah, I think this team could
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  Speaker 3: win it? Or do you all feel like, oh, the
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  Speaker 3: SEC is winning a national title this year? And if so,
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  Speaker 3: who are the teams? I guess another way of saying it, Bone,
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  Speaker 3: is if you had to pick a conference to win
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  Speaker 3: the national title right now, just the conference, which one
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  Speaker 3: would you pick?
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  Speaker 4: Or would you go SEC, Big Ten, or other teams?
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  Speaker 4: Miami and Notre Dame, do they have more of a
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  Speaker 4: chance than the Big Ten teams this year to win
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  Speaker 4: it all? You threw them into there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Just throwing a little side note on that.
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  Speaker 3: Or if you just went SEC versus the field then,
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  Speaker 3: and you know what I mean, took everybody else and
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  Speaker 3: included them. I just still don't know how many of
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  Speaker 3: these SEC teams I would say are title worthy. Like Georgia,
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  Speaker 3: they still have something to prove in the 12-team playoff.
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  Speaker 3: They have not been good. They've been one and done
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  Speaker 3: each time. But yes, I like Gunnar Stockton a lot.
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  Speaker 3: I like the way they run the football with Frazier
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  Speaker 3: and those guys. And the defense, they fly around on defense.
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  Speaker 3: But I will caution, when the best team you played
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  Speaker 3: is Oklahoma.
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  Speaker 3: And I think John, like John, John Mateer looks like,
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  Speaker 3: like what did Blaine Crane say yesterday?
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  Speaker 1: You got to check his FanDuel account. The way, the
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  Speaker 1: way he turns it over.
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  Speaker 3: Like, so I still want to see more out of Georgia,
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  Speaker 3: but I'd look at them and say, okay, they could
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  Speaker 3: be tough to handle. Texas, I don't see how Texas
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  Speaker 3: with those offensive issues, bone, they're next to last in rushing.
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  Speaker 3: Even with Hollywood Smothers and Leek Brown at it, they're
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  Speaker 3: next to last to rushing in the SEC. Arch Manning
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  Speaker 3: to me looks pretty good. But not great. He's under
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  Speaker 3: pressure a lot. He invites pressure a lot. I just,
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  Speaker 3: I don't see Texas as a, I could be wrong.
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  Speaker 3: We got a long season to go. I would not
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  Speaker 3: back them as one of the biggest national title contenders,
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  Speaker 3: even though they're number one right now.
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  Speaker 4: As we get into October today, you're going to see
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  Speaker 4: some losses start to pile up in the SEC, to
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  Speaker 4: be fair. Bama plays Mississippi State this weekend. Then Bama
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  Speaker 4: plays Georgia next weekend. You're going to start to see
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  Speaker 4: the biggest matchups ahead where losses.
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  Speaker 1: Are going to start piling up.
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  Speaker 4: A good point by a texter there, Mac, and I
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  Speaker 4: want to make sure we get proper credit.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, man.
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  Speaker 4: Fort Millionaire, he points out that the quarterback play in
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  Speaker 4: the SEC, greatly improving from the last couple of years,
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  Speaker 4: whether it's Keelan Russell, it's the Florida offense in general,
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  Speaker 4: Gunnar Stockton, Kamario Taylor, you've got Arch, you've got Chambliss,
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  Speaker 4: you've got all the way down the line, the quarterback
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  Speaker 4: play is getting better in the SEC. You're starting to
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  Speaker 4: see some stars all the way down the line at
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  Speaker 4: quarterback in that country.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you got some good ones. Again, I would question
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  Speaker 3: how good... My man, no, no. Lenora Sellers on the list, right?
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  Speaker 3: I would question how good Arch really is. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I watched Cam Coleman. I watched the entire game against
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  Speaker 3: Ohio State and Tennessee. I watched Cam Coleman catch two
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  Speaker 3: footballs in those games.
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  Speaker 1: I just.
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  Speaker 3: To me, Arch is all right. And if his last
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  Speaker 3: name was Smith... We would just be talking about him
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  Speaker 3: being all right. And we would not expect him to
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  Speaker 3: be awesome or whatever.
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  Speaker 5: If his last name was Smith, he wouldn't be at Texas.
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  Speaker 5: And he wouldn't be hyped up the way he's being
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  Speaker 5: hyped up.
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  Speaker 1: He definitely wouldn't be hyped up. No doubt about that.
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  Speaker 1: Texas doesn't take people named Smith. What's going on here?
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  Speaker 1: Are they bigoted against Smith? Yeah, what's happening here?
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  Speaker 6: What?
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  Speaker 1: 7-0-4-5-7-0-9-6-10.
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  Speaker 3: So the Gator folks are out and about. Mac, if
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  Speaker 3: you don't think the Gators are national championship worthy, your
• 13:42
  Speaker 3: eyes ain't working. Gator Rube is checking in here. He's
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  Speaker 3: feeling good. Another texter says, I hate the Florida Gators.
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  Speaker 3: They killed my Auburn Tigers. But that team is national
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  Speaker 3: title worthy. So how many teams... Do you agree with that, y'all?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it's... Septembers can lie to you.
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  Speaker 1: It can be deceiving.
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  Speaker 5: You can identify pretenders this time of the year. I mean, Mac,
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  Speaker 5: I had them at 9-3 in the preseason on the
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  Speaker 5: outside looking in. That would still be a hell of
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  Speaker 5: a first year for what John Sumrall is doing.
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  Speaker 3: So you're not buying that they are a great team?
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  Speaker 3: That running game is nasty. I want to see what
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  Speaker 3: they do. I want to see what they do on
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  Speaker 3: the road. Like when they go to Texas. I want
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: to see what they do on a neutral side against Georgia.
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  Speaker 3: I saw the Ole Miss performance coming. I wasn't taken
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  Speaker 3: aback by what they did at Auburn. You thought they
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  Speaker 3: would beat Ole Miss by 24? I know Bone called blowout.
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  Speaker 1: I had them winning and I had them playing really well.
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  Speaker 1: I was surprised by the margin. I think we all
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  Speaker 1: thought they'd win. I wasn't surprised by how well they played.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It was a tough spot for Ole Miss. Everybody could
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  Speaker 3: see that. Vegas saw that with the point spread. Florida's
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  Speaker 3: schedule is going to pick up, but everybody's schedule. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: isn't everybody going to lose a game in the SEC,
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  Speaker 3: and most will lose too?
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  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You know, at least.
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  Speaker 4: Can I say something about Florida also that needs to
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  Speaker 4: be mentioned in terms of their start to the season?
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  Speaker 4: We had Trevor Maddich on last week, and he brought
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  Speaker 4: it up. They have a wide receiver, Eric Singleton. That
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  Speaker 4: might be the fastest player at the wide receiver spot
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  Speaker 4: in college football. He's just getting healthy. He just had
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  Speaker 4: his first catch last week.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he had a big catch. So while we're talking
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  Speaker 1: about the run game for the– now, oh, you're going
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  Speaker 1: to get a boot.
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  Speaker 4: But while they're talking about the run game of the Gators,
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  Speaker 4: once that guy gets going, they got a whole other
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  Speaker 4: level in the passing game that we haven't seen yet.
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  Speaker 4: in terms of that guy getting in there. So keep
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: that in mind.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: And their wide receivers, I was saying before the season,
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: it's not just ball. And obviously we know they have
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: Duke Clark now running back. But just their skill position
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: players in general are pretty badass.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't watch them. I just heard Trevor
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: Maddish say that last week.
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't be watching the team in my past.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: Don't make Finney fire the song up for Gator Bone, baby.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: If you're not gator bone, you're gator bait. Yeah.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: Your Gamecocks could be gator bait. They might be eating
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: some chicken pretty soon here. 704-570-9610. People are pushing back
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: on what they call arch slander here. This dude says
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: totally disagree on Arch. If his name was Smith or
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: his last name or his name was Trinidad Chambliss, he
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: would be thought of as really solid to good college
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: quarterback at the power five level. I don't understand why
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: Trinidad Chambliss is being brought into this. He's one of
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: the best players in college football.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: I have no idea. He's the only reason Ole Miss
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: was even, you know, trying to hang for a while.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: You got me on that one.
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: This texter says, Max hating of Arch Manning is annoying.
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: I didn't think he was a Manning family hater.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm a Brady family hater. All right.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: I want you to know that right now. I love
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: myself some Peyton Manning, except in Super Bowl 50. Texter says,
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: if his name was Arch Deluxe, Mac would like him.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: I would eat that man. I would eat him all up, baby,
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: with a side of fries. It always comes back to
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: food on the show.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: It does. And y'all know that. I can tell.
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: Cocky Panther says Arch is fully overrated. He's a decent
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: QB at best. This dude says, totally dying laughing, that
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: this Gator team is a national championship contender.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, do they look.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: Like maybe the second best team in the SEC, though?
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: Right now, maybe Bama and they play Georgia next week.
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: I think that conversation is going to change maybe week
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: to week, though, because of the matchups that are coming up.
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: So Ole Miss might have been the second best team
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: going in the last week. And then they got their comeuppance.
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: And then I think it's going to just I think
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: Georgia is number one right now solidified.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: But they got Bama coming up soon. So, yeah, I
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: They have not done well against, you know, against Bama
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: to say the least. So anyway, 704 number says Mac
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: has finally jumped on the SEC bandwagon. I want the
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: whole college football world to know once we win our
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: first 12 team playoff, we're going to win them all.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because they're going to go to 24 teams.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: So if you win one, it's probably the last 12-team playoff.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: I got you on that one. And you might be
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: by yourself in a playoff. You know what?
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: You brought up Notre Dame and Miami Bone, and I
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: think they both have a great chance of winning a
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: national title. Ohio State, I hate them, but hell, they
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: outplayed Texas for three quarters, let's be honest about it,
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: on the road. I would love it if the SEC—
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: elitists start puffing their chests out only to take L's
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: in the playoff again.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? So maybe this is good
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: if they get all emboldened in the regular season.
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: But I will say, I cannot wait for the ACC
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: game tomorrow night. Two 4-0 teams. Virginia Tech and Pittsburgh
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: tomorrow night. First time in college football history, two 4-0
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: unranked teams are meeting, by the way. Usually one of
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: the 4-0s gets ranked. Not this case. Not in the ACC.
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: Two 4-0s, but neither one is ranked. That is the
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: most ACC stat ever.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: And there's Wake that's not ranked after the Louisville win.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Duke's ranked in one of them. There's Duke ranked only
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: in one, yeah.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: So there's a lot to be— that' s a whole other conversation
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: of ACC annoyance to have.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: When we come back.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: So Mike Jack and JC Horn are out eight weeks roughly.
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: Can the defense hold it together? Or is this going
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: to get ugly without the fellas?
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. I took all my notes just from.
• 20:07
  Speaker 7: The receivers, because I watched film on all these guys, like,
• 20:10
  Speaker 7: back in the summertime. So just sent them all my notes,
• 20:12
  Speaker 7: telling them, like, what to look at. But more importantly,
• 20:16
  Speaker 7: just telling them, like, brother, Sunday night, lights bright, like,
• 20:19
  Speaker 7: go have fun. Like, this is where all of us
• 20:22
  Speaker 7: as kids was begging our parents to stay up a
• 20:24
  Speaker 7: little later to watch these type games. So just go
• 20:27
  Speaker 7: out there and have fun.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: That is Mike Jack. He's a great teammate, man. Great teammate.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: He will be out, as will J.C. Horn, for around
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: eight weeks. Dave Canales did say it could be as
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: early as maybe six weeks for Mike Jack, but we
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: will see.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: He had surgery on that groin. J.C. is non-surgery, but J.C.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: is going to be around eight weeks, too.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: And that's Mike Jack talking about helping these young bucks
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: out while he can't play. He also mentioned he has
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: a daughter on the way. and that he'll get to
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: spend some time with her while he is, you know,
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: more at the house with the injury. So I guess
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: silver lining for him personally, I'm happy for you for that,
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: Mike Jack. I'd rather see you on the dang football field.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: Real quick thing, cleaning up something from the last segment
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: where people get all worked up about... Is the SEC
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: back on top and all this? The one common thread
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: that brought everybody together.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: What's going on, Fiddy? What happened? What did I do now?
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: You said you had to clean something up. I brought
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: the mop out. Oh, okay. This isn't really that sort
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: of cleanup. I got a hunch that I think you
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: get offended by the mop. No, I just wanted to
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: know what did I do now? When you say clean up,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to play the mop sound effect.
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: I'm very paranoid.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: I make so many mistakes that I just assumed I
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: said something wrong.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: So now we have to clean up the clean up.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: So mop up the mop. Yeah, we got a double mop.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: I forgot cleanup means one of us screwed to Pucci
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: and made a mistake that we must mop up. No,
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: I just meant let's finish up the SEC thing. There
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: was at least five people that said their issue with
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: the polls in the SEC centers around Missouri always being
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: in the bottom portion of the top 25, regardless of
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: whether or not they beat anybody or who they lose to.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: I would say this, P-Man, I'm glad to hear you
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: got to the beach, baby. I hope you didn't hear
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: that one. But I think these folks are right. He
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: hears everything. Let's talk about the injuries and keep that
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: mop ready. I'll probably screw something up in this segment, Fitty.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: Let's talk about the injuries and can this defense hold
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: it together? Joe Person wrote an article this week in
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: The Athletic Bone kind of comparing the horn injury. And
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: this is before we knew that Mike Jack is going
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: to be out as long as J.C., comparing it to
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: the Derrick Brown injury and how when Derrick Brown went
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: out in 2024, everything went to, you know, to hell
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: in a handbasket and was kind of, you know, wondering aloud,
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: could that happen to this defense? Now we know we
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: don't have Horn and Mike Jack for a six to
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: eight week period. Do you think this defense is now
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: going to be horrendous? Do you think this is going
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: to be terrible, Bones? Certainly, we can't sit here and
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: say it's not going to take a hit. It's a
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: major hit when you lose one, never mind both guys.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: You're dependent on it feels like your roster, your depth
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: guys to help you out. I don't know if they're
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: going to go outside and maybe they're going to. give
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: these guys a chance for a game or two and
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: see what happens and then go from there. No, yeah,
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: I think the defense, we were thinking, can they be
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: top 10 and all that?
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: That's out the window. Right now it's, can you keep
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: your heads above water? Can you give Bryce and the
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: offense a chance to do something? Right now I'm just
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: looking for... I'm not even looking for greatness, Meg. I'm
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: just looking for average to try to keep this team
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: in football games without both those guys.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: And it's going to be matchup-based.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: I think sometimes they'll be all right, and there'll be
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: some games where we're like, oh, my God, that was terrible.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: It's just going to depend on who they're playing, I think.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: First of all, I would majorly push back on this
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: team is going to look like the 2024 Panthers defense.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: I'm not going that far.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: The 2024 Panthers defense looked like quite possibly the worst
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: collection of individuals ever to play defense in organized football.
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: Like, point blank, period. So I just, I'm sorry. We
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: have come, and Joe writes this in a piece. In
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: fairness to Joe, he wrote in the piece, basically all
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: these things I'm getting ready to say, that this team, Bone,
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: to me, is much better off in a lot of
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: ways defensively than that team.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: It's not even close.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: Like, first of all, let's go to the front seven
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: that has been beefed up. Yeah, we don't have Skorton,
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: but we have added Pat Jones. And he feels like
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: a new addition this year. He played so little last year.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: Jalen Phillips, we have added as well. He's top 15
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: in pressures right now in the league, according to PFF.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: You've still got Derek Brown up front. You have, I think,
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: Lee Hunter's off to a pretty good start. to his
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: young career. Your linebacking core is by far superior to
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: anything we've had in the Canales and Morgan era. We
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: didn't have Merrick during that horrible season as well. So
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: I just, I don't think it's going to look anywhere
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: near that bad.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: It'll be different. It'll be different.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: Because now, instead of missing Brown in the front end,
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: you're missing these guys on the back end. We do have,
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: I think, Bone, our best pass rush that we have had.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's great yet, But I think we
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: have our best pass rush that we have had. Princely's got,
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: I think, the number two pass rush win rate in
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: the league. Phillips and Travis Gibson are both above average
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: in that metric. So I think, can you do it
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: with a better front seven, a better pass rush, a
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: better linebacking core? Can you keep things from being completely brutal?
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: I think you can. Here's my concern, though.
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: When you move the depth guys up now to the starter,
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: so say it's Evans and Will Lee, Well, now you're
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: moving up other guys to the depth spots, and the
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: way the season has gone, you know, now you've got
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: to pray you don't lose anybody else for a while
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: or else you're really going down the depth, or you're
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: having to go to the practice squad more or outside
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: the organization. That would be my concern, Mac, is when
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: you move up the guys, now you're moving up other
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: guys behind the guys, and that would be my big
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: concern right now. It's just the overall, like, you're treading—
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: You're on that very thin line of losing any of
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: your other key players where it's like, oh, my God,
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: look who's playing on this defense right now.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: There also could be a trickle down to special teams
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: as well. Oh, big time.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: Mike Hayes got great stuff on that one of his
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: tweets yesterday.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: You guys have played special teams units, now won't be
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: able to do as much of that. Somebody says Mack
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: on here trying to tell us everything is sunshine and rainbows.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not. I'm just, I don't know. I
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: think Bone made a good point in the first hour, too.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: Is this offense a little more equipped with the way
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: Bryce is playing? to, you know, maybe be able to
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: win a couple of more shootout type games. But that, again,
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: that requires finding a way to get better pass protection
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: for Bryce too. It's not like everything over there is
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: perfect either. You know, he's the most pressured quarterback in
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: the NFL. Fifty three percent of the time, according to
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: Sumer Sports.
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: They just find a way to hang on, stay in
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: the race in the NFC South, which should be doable.
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: Can they find a way to hang on long enough
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: for a lot of these guys to come back? Because
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: a lot of these guys are not out for the year.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Some are.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: Like Brazel and Skorton. We know that, but they'll get
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: Mike Jack back. They'll get Horn back. We know there's
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: offensive line help on the way, depending on when Hickey
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: and Bowden, we know that there is help on the way.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: Can they hang on long enough to make it? So
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: those guys are coming back for an impactful race. I
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: think that's definitely feasible. I think the, yeah, you're in
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: the right division to hang in the race.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: The NFC South piece is a big part of this.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: It's like, are you ever out of this thing? I mean,
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: we tried to bury Atlanta. They come back, beat the Packers. Like,
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: are you ever out of a division where we won
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: it with eight wins last year and literally didn't even
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: do it ourselves? Had to sit there on Sunday on
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: our couches. and, and, and root for help. I'm looking
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: at the schedule.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: It's coming up.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: Cause this is what some of y'all are saying. This
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: dude says, Mac, you have, you not looked at our schedule.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: There are a ton of passing attacks and great receivers
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: that are going to light our secondary up. I think
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: this is where a Vero has to do something that
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: much of many of y'all hate. He has been way
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: more man-based this year and way more blitz heavy this year.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: He went up from 15th or 15th or 16th in
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: blitz percentage to seventh through three weeks. I don't know
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: if you can blitz this much bone with these young
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: bucks back there. I don't know if you want to
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: do that. I also don't know if you can play
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: near as much man. You may have to go back
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: to being one of the top two or three zone
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: teams in the league. And you might have to just
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: work on keeping things in front of you. And I
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: know people are going to bitch about it, but I
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: just think, I think Rivera was changing. some of those things.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: And I just think this might force him to change back.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: But in terms of the point of who are we
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: playing bone, Detroit definitely feels like a team. You do
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: not want to play with two banged up corn, two
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: corners around. No, no, no. What do you think about Philly?
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: Let's do it like two games at a time here.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: Cause we all agreed Detroit.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Oh my God.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: Is golf going to throw for three 50 on us,
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: Philly and Tampa. How much, I mean, Tampa, you either
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: get a backup quarterback or Baker trying to come back
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: off an injury or, Philly, Jalen Hurts looked pretty rough
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: the other night.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: They don't have A.J. Brown anymore. What do you think?
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: Philly, to me, could be more of a Saquon worry
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: than the receiving worry, right? That would be more of
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: that worry. The one that worries me in the next
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: group of games, obviously the Lions. Yes, that goes without saying.
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: But out of Philadelphia, Tampa, Green Bay, I know Green
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: Bay's not played well, but it is a short week.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: And Mack will floor if he's still there, by the way.
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: The Jordan Love passing attack is very much They're a
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: team that takes a lot of deep shots. They try
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: and try and try. They throw the ball down the
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: field in chunks. They're going to try to get Watson
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: and Golden. And that, to me, is a matchup where
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: I say, oh, without Mike Jack and Horn, they are
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: going to try to throw the hell out of the ball.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: So that's one matchup I'd worry about there.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: Watson and Golden have been off to good starts, both
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: averaging almost 17 yards a catch, to your point about
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: the deep ball.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: But Jordan Love has looked pretty brutal.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah early this season they beat him before there jordan
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: love as many as much as they're throwing the ball
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: downfield 6.8 yards an attempt 52 percent completions so that
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: like how good does he play but yeah those receivers
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: could be a little dicey um olave olave down the
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: line in november and they probably have jordan tyson back
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: by then i would think that's a problem tyler shuck
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: second in the league in passing yards to.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Hubo Bryce Young. Bryce Young, baby. Let's see, Denver.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Denver's– I know Bo Nix has been, you know,
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: a little inconsistent, but that's a– they've got some receivers, Bone,
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: that I think could definitely hurt. Again, I think it
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: becomes about when you're starting, will Lee, a rookie, a
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: Caleb Evans kind of journeyman role player, when you're looking
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: at Shaw Smith-Wade, maybe Corey Thornton, Robert Rochelle– I think
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: you're just trying to limit the big plays. You're hoping
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: your pass rush gets home. Jalen Phillips becomes huge for you.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: Can the run defense keep improving so you can get
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: them in third long? But, yeah, I mean, the thing
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: that sucks, too, and we talked about this the other day,
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: but now I have the stats to back it up, Boney.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Horn and Mike Jack both are off to such good starts.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: Mike Jack was number one, according to Sumer Sports. In
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: yards per coverage snap allowed. He had been tremendous. And
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: Horn was 14. And that's the thing is they were
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: both playing so good, man.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: A texter says, excuse me, weren't Horn and Mitejack part
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: of the defense in week one that gave up 59?
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: It can't be much worse than that.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that is true. And they were part of that.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: And they gave up like a combined, like two completions
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: in that game, according to PFF.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: They put up 59.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: And those guys were not that involved, which is crazy.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: This dude says, Mac out here trying to convince us
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: this team is going to stay alive.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: I'm not buying it.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: Brian says, why doesn't anybody point out the fact that
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: this offense is better equipped to carry the load? The
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: bone man pointed out twice. I got in a little
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: point out. But now you have pointed it out. Now
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: this texter is pushing back on that point, though, Boney.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: A little pushback. 704 number. Doing a little verbal Oklahoma drill.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: 704 number says, guys, I love your thought about Bryce
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: being at his best, the offense being able to carry
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: the load while the defense is a couple of guys down,
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: but that O-line ain't going to allow it.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: What do you say to that, Boney?
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, the offense, I mean, yeah, there are
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: guys on defense that have to step up. Anyone playing
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: corner has to step up and roll. But what about
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: the O-line? What about the guys saying? No, no, I'm saying,
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: I'm saying, but this will not work if the offense
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: doesn't have to, if the offense can't carry this in games,
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: this is never going to work. The offense has to
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: now be the primary unit here, and that includes the
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: offensive line playing better.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: Vegan Wiener is also saying the same thing. He is
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: saying this O-line cannot carry this offense. I don't think
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: you're looking for the O-line to carry the offense. I
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: think you're looking for Bryce to carry it. I also
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: am demanding it. I keep saying this over and over again.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: Dave said yesterday we've got to run the ball to
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: get the defense off the field. They've been playing a
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: lot of snaps, and he thinks that's why you're seeing
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: injuries like you're seeing to Mike, Jack, and Horn. But
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: you've got to run the ball, Bone, to make it
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: easier on your offensive line. get some run momentum going.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: So it's not so predictable. So it isn't all on Bryce.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: You're not dropping back 40 plus 50 times to pass.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: That's the way.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: And then you got to find ways to scheme around
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: your O-line to give them help. This dude says, I
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: was freaked out about the O-line enough. And then I
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: found out Freeling might not play. Yeah, that was a
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: kick in the stones because Well, I didn't even try
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: to do that, but that means Stone Forsythe. It's like
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: kicking the stones when Stone Forsythe is taking first team
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: reps like yesterday.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Accidentally a genius, sir.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: It sounded like, even though it's concussion protocol, it sounded
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: like there's a decent chance that he can play on
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: Sunday free link.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: But we'll see.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: Stone Forsythe spending some time against Hayden Hutchinson is scary.
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: There are so many guys on the list. I'm having
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: trouble keeping track right now. Who's got what and the statuses.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: This is I'm exhausted. I'm completely exhausted. Injuries have exhausted.
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: It really is a buzzkill, isn't it?
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: You wait all season for football and the injuries bone
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: have come fast and furious and have not stopped.
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: It really is a bummer, man. From day one, once
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: Scorton got hurt, it's not stopped, has it?
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: That gets started when Inky went down the playoff day.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: And Moten got the blood clot. So we show up
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: to camp and Scorton gets hurt. Like, it's crazy, man.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Murphy ate my Panther hat yesterday. That blue corduroy one.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Is that it? That blue one that I wear? That
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: people like? That blue corduroy looking one?
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: That Murphy ate the back of the hat. So that's
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: gone now.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: Is that an omen? I hope that's not an omen.
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: Even the Panther hat's on IR. When we come back.
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: That's his second hat eaten, by the way. He got
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: a Yankee hat also on the way.
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Keep getting those Yankee hats, doggy. Big old, big old
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: shoestring of slobber on that bad boy. Go get that
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Notre Dame hat next. Which one? Get them both, Murph.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: When we come back, there's no gator hat, though. Those
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: have been put away.
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: When we come back, who has the better chance at
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: competing on Saturday, the Heels versus Notre Dame or Clemson
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: versus Miami? Mack Bowen, 50, Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.
• 36:07
  Speaker 6: Clemson's been on a little bit of a run lately,
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: beating North Carolina, beating Cal. But Tate Reynolds, you're not
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: going to run for 260 yards against Miami. It's just
• 36:20
  Speaker 6: not going to happen. North Carolina's more balanced. North Carolina
• 36:23
  Speaker 6: has more athletes on both sides of the ball. And
• 36:26
  Speaker 6: North Carolina has a quarterback who can actually push it
• 36:28
  Speaker 6: vertically and threaten you a little bit to open up
• 36:30
  Speaker 6: the run game. and I still think Notre Dame's coming
• 36:33
  Speaker 6: along a little bit. So to keep it close, I'd
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: go with North Carolina, because I think Clemson's just going to.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Get run out of the building.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: That is Blaine Crane, Crane and Cone podcast, joining us
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: yesterday on the show. So Bone asked him a great question,
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: as the Bone man is often apt to do. And
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: he gave a very interesting answer. And it's like, we've
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: got to spend a couple of minutes kicking this one around.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: Because I was kind of surprised by his answer and
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: then the way he said it, too. So the question is,
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: you have North Carolina as around a three-touchdown dog, right, Bone,
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: to Notre Dame?
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like 21 or 21 and a half, depending on.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: where you're peeping.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: Now, Clemson is a little Clemson's lower Clemson's around. I
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: think it went down from 17 after around 16 and
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: a half. I think last, last I saw, I will
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: double check. So they are the Clemson is the, you know,
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: lesser dog in terms of total point spread. But Blaine
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: Crane just went all in and talked about the virtues
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: of Carolina like he was very complimentary of Carolina, almost
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: too complimentary of Carolina. And he says he gives them
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: a better chance to hang in their game as a
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: multi-score underdog against Notre Dame than he does Clemson. They're
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: both playing at home, too, by the way, for context.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: What are y'all thinking? I'm asking everybody out there listening.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: Clemson fans, Carolina fans can jump in here, too. What
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: is the answer to this question? Who do you think
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: is more competitive? Dabo the other day said this is
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: going to be a four-quarter game. He said this is
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: going down to the final place. They're going to play
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: all four quarters, Dabo.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: That's right. You got that down. He said it's going
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: down to the final place. I don't know.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: So who do you think, Bone, has the better chance
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: of being the plucky underdog?
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: I think the plucky underdog, although I don't think either
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: team has a chance to win, who has a chance
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: to compete longer? Probably Clemson, I would say. How is UNC, Matt,
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: going to score against the Notre Dame defense?
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Notre Dame kind of.
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: What they've done this year, although against Purdue it was
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: pretty quick, but they kind of bleed you to death
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: a little bit. They don't come out necessarily outside of that,
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: and they don't get up on you at 31-0 and
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: it's over.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: The other day they did. But I could see it
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: being 7-0, 14-0, 21-0, 28-3, and then maybe ending like....
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: You know, 35 to 10 with no real chance to win.
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: I could see Clemson. Hey, I don't, I think Miami
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: is still one of the best teams, Mac, but I
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: still need to see more out of their defense. Can
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: Clemson exploit that to win? No, but I think they
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: can have more success than UNC will have against.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: Notre Dame's defense. I, want to know what you think, Fitty,
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: being the official Tar Heel of this radio show. Do
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: you think Blaine Crane is right? Do you feel like
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: y'all can hang around against Notre Dame, or are you
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: not feeling that way?
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do not.
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: There were two things he said in that sound bite
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: we played coming back.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: That I disagreed with.
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: One, I don't think we have more athletes than Clemson
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: does on both sides of the ball. And two, I
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: don't agree with his assessment of Billy Edwards Jr. and
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: his ability to push the football.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: Down the field. And you know why that is, Mac?
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: Because if I agree with what Blaine Crane had to say,
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: my team would be 3-0. My team lost to Clemson.
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: on the road after building a 14-point lead.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: It was kind of odd the way he talked about
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Carolina and Clemson.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: It's like, you do remember the Tigers outscored them 22-3
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: to win the second half.
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: 27% of people betting think that Clemson can cover the
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: spread of 16 and a half.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: 27% you said?
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: 27% of people, the money is coming in on Clemson
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: on the spread. Money line's not even, that's not even.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: 21% have UNC. So the better say Clemson. Yes, by 6%.
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: I don't know, Mac, if I'm where Dabo is, where
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: Dabo thinks this is going to come down to the
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: final play of the game. I don't know if I
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: can meet him there. Would you be surprised if it's
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: 34-24 entering the fourth quarter and Clemson has the ball
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: with a chance to really put Miami in a game
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: pressure situation? I would not be surprised, but I also
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: thought this team was going to go to Death Valley,
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: LSU's Death Valley, and push LSU, and they gave up
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: 51 straight points and got embarrassed on national television. So
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: I think we're going to see Miami get tested. in
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: a way they haven't been tested so far, but I
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: still think they win this game.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: By two scores.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: Do they play them closer than Wake Forest? Wake Forest,
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: because I think Wake Forest is a better team than
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: Clemson personally. Yes. Wake Forest played them within 13. Does
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: Clemson play them within 13? I like, I just, there's
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: some problem out the bone, bone nailed it with Carolina.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: Notre Dame's defense is elite. How's Carolina like, and you
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: know what? It's not all on Edwards. He, he wasn't
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: great against Clemson. Edwards has like two guys that are
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: reliable to throw to unfortunately, and ship and Thurman and
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: Notre Dame's defense. If they can slow those two guys down,
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: it's really tough on Edwards. Carolina wants to pound it,
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: but I'm not sure they're pounding it. Clemson's problem bone,
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: to me, they've got problems all over the place against Miami. Like,
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure, can they block Miami's front? Miami might
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: have the best defensive tackle group in the country. I
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: think the edges are underrated in Lightfoot and Wilson and
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: some of those guys. Their secondary's been very injured. They've
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: been without their three best corners. They might get Xavier
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: Lewis back at corner. And then on the flip side,
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: I know Clemson's defense has looked better the last game
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: and a half. But, like, Clemson's pass rush seems to
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: be Wilhelt or Bust. Are they going to pressure Mensah?
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: Are they going to slow down Mensah? How about Clemson's
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: pass defense? and how it looked, Bone, until last week. Now,
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: it did look better, though, against Sagapulitelli.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: I just, I don't know. Am I taking the easy
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: way out and saying both teams get blown out? Let's
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: be honest here. They're both going to be slasher films, right?
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: It's just a matter of who runs out to the
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: woods and runs from the attackers the longest. Who survives, Mac,
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: the slasher villains in this movie? They're both going to
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: get bludgeoned at some point. It's just a matter of when.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: Who makes it to the final half hour of the
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: movie before being slashed?
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: Now, Stanley J is a Miami Hurricanes fan. He's worried.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: about Clemson. He feels uneasy about his Canes right now.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: Interesting.
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: The thing about that Wake game, too, they were all
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: not taken away from Wake because they fought their asses off.
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: The Canes were all kind of banged up, too. They
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: got off to a great start and then they kind
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: of fell apart health-wise in that game. But they're still
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: kind of banged up. But Tony was only playing every
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: third play there for a while. Every third down, I
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: should say. Yes, that's true. But like 11 catches in
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: the first half, then he kind of got banged up.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: No, that's true.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: But more will more will be out. He went out
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: in that game. Brown will be out, but they will
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: have Fletcher back in this game. So they did get
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: a little healthier there.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: I guess I'm cheating. I guess I'm not playing my
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: own game. I'm just saying both of them are going
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: to get beat by multiple scores. The difference of Notre
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: Dame and Miami is Notre Dame to me, Bone, is
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: not near as explosive offensively. So Notre Dame, you know,
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: I could see them 30, 31. but Carolina gets like three.
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: For Miami, like Clemson might be able to score more
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: than Carolina, right? I wouldn't put the Miami defense up
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: there with Notre Dame's defense. Miami, I think, is getting 40,
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: you know, or at least 37 or so or something
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: like that.
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: What a sign for football in the Carolinas, by the way.
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: Who's going to get beat by less?
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: Exactly.
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: Boy, that college football confidence topic on Friday is going
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: to go over well.
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: You guys fired up out there, baby. You guys fired up.
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: Clemson fans, come on, baby. Go out there and cover
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: that spread. Tea time is usually a negative Clemson fan.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: He says the only reason I think Clemson may be
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: able to keep it close is due to the weather
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: playing a huge factor. It's supposed to be raining the
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: majority of the game. That could be a fair point.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: Clemson got that old lightning delay in their back pocket.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: I have not been up on the weather, but I
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: know a big system is going to affect hell, even
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: us here this weekend.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: So maybe I need to. educate. Maybe you need to
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: reach out to Larry Sprinkle or something. You know what
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: I mean? He is retired. Or Storm Chaser.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: Who's that person we got over there doing, what's that
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: woman doing to WCNC?
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Storm Chaser. She's just on TV. Her name is not
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: Storm Chaser.
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: You could book Josh Payton. He covers college football and
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: is a professional Storm Chaser.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Her name is Majestic Storm. Majestic Storm. That's it. Storm Chaser.
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: What were the odds that CNC would go from Larry
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: Sprinkle to Majestic Storm and that's their real names?
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: We can just talk to Brad Panovich, friend of the program, also.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: Storm is her real last name? Majestic Storm. Or is
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: it a Hannah Storm situation?
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: No.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: Because that's not her real last name. I didn't know that.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: But no, that's her real, yes. That is her real
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: last name.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: Fitty, investigate that for us. Investigate that.
• 46:07
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: Although I thought her name was Storm Chasers. One of
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: my best friends is her co-worker. What the hell do
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: I know? Oh, you got the scoop already.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: I said, is that her real name? I got the yes.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: That's her real name.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: Oh, this texter says. Don't doubt me in my connection
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: to no thanks.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: This texter says ask Weatherman Mark. That's true. Weatherman Mark
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: going to need a weather hit. Going into the weekend storms, man.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: I think Weatherman Mark just looks at what Brad Panovich says. Oh, no. Damn.
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: Which is a good idea. Calling him a fraud. When
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: we come back to the Mac and Bone Show, it's time, baby.
• 46:38
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• 46:42
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