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Sharri | 28 October · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Why on Sky News. This is Sharry.
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Speaker 2: Good Evening. Welcome to the show tonight.
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Speaker 3: The Quanta scandal engulfing the Prime Minister could get a
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Speaker 3: whole lot worse. I have breaking news in a moment
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Speaker 3: on a bid to recall Alan Joyce to answer questions
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Speaker 3: about the business class upgrades for his good mate.
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Speaker 2: Full coverage tonight.
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Speaker 3: The Queensland Labor Party has been booted from office, but
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Speaker 3: there's one political party even more upset than Labor. More
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Speaker 3: on that with My Political panel Cameron Milner and David Gazzard.
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Speaker 3: Later also tonight, how Israeli female fighters took on the
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Speaker 3: misogynistic I had told ers of Iran and won. I'll
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Speaker 3: explain how this was one of the most sophisticated and
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Speaker 3: complex military feats of our time. Plus the cousin of
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Speaker 3: a nineteen year old hostage, Nama Levi, is on the
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Speaker 3: show tonight. She's still trapped in guys at Time tunnels,
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Speaker 3: yet SBS dared to censor his interview where he fights
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Speaker 3: to bring her home. Our expose on the Public Broadcaster continues,
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Speaker 3: but first tonight. In breaking news, former Quantis chief executive
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Speaker 3: Alan Joyce is set to.
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Speaker 2: Be horn in front of a Senate.
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Speaker 3: Inquiry to detail the free upgrades he gave his mate
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Speaker 3: Anthony Alberzi. This has become a massive scandal, Albanezi personally
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Speaker 3: requesting twenty two free upgrades, including on a flight with
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Speaker 3: his son from Sydney to Rome, that gift around ten
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Speaker 3: thousand dollars. Collectively, the twenty two free upgrades would be worth.
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Speaker 2: Tens of thousands of dollars.
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Speaker 3: These special privileges were given to the PM dating back
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Speaker 3: to his time as Transport Minister in the Rudd and
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Speaker 3: Gillard governments, and it leads to questions about the decisions
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Speaker 3: he's made over the years that benefited Quantus over rival airlines.
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Speaker 3: Journalist Joe Aston has exposed a web of influence, alleging
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Speaker 3: that Alan Joyce was basically Albanesi's personal travel agent.
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Speaker 4: When the man regulating your own industry deciding which airlines
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Speaker 4: can fly into Australia and how often if he wants
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Speaker 4: a free upgrade, what are you going to do? If
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Speaker 4: Anthony Alberanezi had called the CEO WESPAC or A and
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Speaker 4: Z and said, could you please put fifty thousand dollars
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Speaker 4: in my account? Would that be okay? I have this
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Speaker 4: weird thing where if you ask for a flight upgrade,
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Speaker 4: it's not a bribe or you know, it can't be
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Speaker 4: perceived as a potential conflict of interest, but there's a
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Speaker 4: financial value to it.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, that's an excellent point and Joe Aston will be
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Speaker 3: on my show tomorrow night.
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Speaker 5: Now.
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Speaker 3: Our National's leader in the Senate, Bridget McKenzie told me
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Speaker 3: today that given this new information, she is now investigating
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Speaker 3: Alan Joyce to the Senate Inquiry to answer questions about
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Speaker 3: these revelations. The accusation is that Albinizi may have put
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Speaker 3: his own interests ahead of Australia's interests. He's denied rival
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Speaker 3: International airlines more flights into Australia, but this would have
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Speaker 3: brought down airfares. Joyce has become one of the most
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Speaker 3: disliked executives in corporate Australia. As you know, he supported
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Speaker 3: the Voice with Quantas giving around three hundred and seventy
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Speaker 3: thousand dollars and as you recall, Alan Joyce held this
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Speaker 3: press conference alongside alber Easy and we know that.
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Speaker 6: This will make it a big difference and a step
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Speaker 6: in the right direction for reconciliation.
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Speaker 7: In this country.
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Speaker 6: So now can I call on the Prime Minister of Australia,
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Speaker 6: the Honorable Antony alban Easy to say a few words,
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Speaker 6: take it.
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Speaker 3: While Alan Joyce was supporting his mate's pet project. We
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Speaker 3: all had no idea just how cozy their relationship was.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 3: Quanta's offers Chairman's Lounge membership to all politicians, to judges, executives,
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Speaker 3: celebrities and senior public servants, but Albanesi had special access.
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Speaker 3: Joyce organized for his son to have chairman's lounge access,
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Speaker 3: a gift that Albanesi reportedly didn't declare in.
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Speaker 2: The Pecuniary Interest Register.
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Speaker 3: Joe Asen says, I'm not saying now that there is
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Speaker 3: an established causation between Albanesi getting a chairman's membership for
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Speaker 3: his son and Qatar Airways, for example, being blocked from
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Speaker 3: flying more.
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Speaker 2: Frequently into Australia.
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Speaker 3: But what it does do is raise a lot of questions.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 3: Albanzi at first refused to take questions about all of this.
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Speaker 3: On Saturday, he only wanted international questions, and then he
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Speaker 3: quickly ended his press conference, and then yesterday he just
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Speaker 3: couldn't avoid speaking about it because it has become a
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Speaker 3: major political issue. Instead, he played the victim. He claimed
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Speaker 3: his family was being targeted.
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Speaker 8: I think that people's families shouldn't be the subject of targeting.
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Speaker 3: Well, that's just nonsense. This is a public interest story.
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Speaker 3: As I said, Joe Aston will be on the show tomorrow.
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Speaker 3: But it's like groundhog Day with labor ministers having to
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Speaker 3: defend the Prime Minister yet again, first over his cliff
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Speaker 3: top mansion, now over flight upgrades.
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Speaker 7: Well, let's go to the heart of the matter.
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Speaker 9: Has the Prime Minister complied diligently, transparently, consistently about declaring
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Speaker 9: any upgrades. Yes, he has, And I know from personal
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Speaker 9: experience that the Prime Minister is a fundamental believer in transparency.
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Speaker 10: It's appropriate that the arrangements are robust. I know that
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Speaker 10: the Prime Minister was asked about this, I think multiple
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Speaker 10: times yesterday and his press conference.
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Speaker 11: I don't have anything to add to it.
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Speaker 7: I don't think it's any surprise that in the role
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Speaker 7: of Transport and Infrastructure Ministry you'd be traveling a lot.
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Speaker 3: Coalition MPs weren't buying these excuses, and Peter Darton said
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Speaker 3: Albin Easy had questions to answer.
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Speaker 6: Sometimes there are oversights and the rest of it. There's
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Speaker 6: human error involved. But when you're talking about having a
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Speaker 6: personal phone call to ask for an upgrade as the
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Speaker 6: Transport Minister or the shadow Transport Minister. I presume the
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Speaker 6: Prime Minister is going to answer questions about that I'm
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Speaker 6: in strange arrangements when you can pick the phone up
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Speaker 6: to the CEO and ask is the Transport Minister for
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Speaker 6: an upgrade?
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Speaker 3: This is all a question of integrity. Most Australians struggled
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Speaker 3: to afford even an economy airfare. They'd never be able
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Speaker 3: to afford the luxury of business class.
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Speaker 2: It's out of our reach. Can Albanezi truly be.
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Speaker 3: Impartial when it comes to making decisions about quantus when
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Speaker 3: he's been getting tens of thousands of dollars worth of
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Speaker 3: free upgrades to business Class. The revelation puts the decisions
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Speaker 3: he made as Transport Minister and as Prime Minister under
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Speaker 3: a cloud and aside from the integrity issues, which are
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Speaker 3: the most important. But aside from the integrity issues, this
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Speaker 3: revelation is also politically lethal. Alban Easy took care to
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Speaker 3: curate a self image of a housing commissioned boy who
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Speaker 3: made it, but now the perception is cementing of a
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Speaker 3: long term polly enjoying the perks of public office.
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Speaker 2: Former Labor State.
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Speaker 3: Secretary Cameron Milner, he's going to be on my show tonight,
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Speaker 3: and he writes in The Nightly that alban.
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Speaker 2: Ezy would have voters believe.
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Speaker 3: That twenty eight years of being in parliament brings judgment
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Speaker 3: and experience. But in stout, Albertezi looks like he's been
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Speaker 3: wallowing in the freebies all while sucking down hard on
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Speaker 3: the teat of the taxpayer. Free Taylor Swift tickets, free
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Speaker 3: Grand Final tickets, free flight upgrades. That's before he had
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Speaker 3: access to his own plane, which he's dubbed Toto I
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Speaker 3: after his dog, and now also a cliff top mansion
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Speaker 3: where AE hundred million dollars of taxpayer funds.
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Speaker 2: Will upgrade the road that leads to it.
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Speaker 3: If this all sounds bad to us, imagine how Labor
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Speaker 3: members are reacting to the revelations, along with families who
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Speaker 3: were truly struggling to survive in this cost of living crisis.
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Speaker 3: It's no wonder that Labor and PS have had enough
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Speaker 3: of the embarrassing headlines their largest loving leader is bringing
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Speaker 3: on the party. Now to the Middle East, Israel finally
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Speaker 3: retaliated against Iran over the weekend, Saturday morning, our time.
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Speaker 3: Young female fighters were part of Israel's assault on Iranian
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Speaker 3: military targets. You can see them here on aircraft going
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Speaker 3: into battle. The beauty of having young women fighting shoulder
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Speaker 3: to shoulder with Israeli men as they launched strikes against
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Speaker 3: the military sites of the misogynistic Iranian regime. A regime
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Speaker 3: where the Ayatolas don't allow women to show their face
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Speaker 3: they need to wear hijab headscarfs at all times, where
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Speaker 3: women who protest, who dare to protest against this, have
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Speaker 3: been beaten to death and executed, Where morality police enforce
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Speaker 3: a strict interpretation of Sharia law, where women are often
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Speaker 3: the victims of unjust violence. Even the United Nations admits
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Speaker 3: that the Iranian government has only intensified its efforts to
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Speaker 3: repress the rights of women. Well, the iyatolders would have
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Speaker 3: despised seeing the Israeli defense forces release photographs of beautiful
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Speaker 3: young women, their long hair visible not covered by hedge
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Speaker 3: apps flying planes into battle. They were the pilots, and
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Speaker 3: this operation was utterly extraordinary. Israel strikes in Iran haven't
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Speaker 3: been fully understood for just how sophisticated they were, and
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Speaker 3: for how they now lay the groundwork for future strikes
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Speaker 3: on Iran's nuclear sites. Now, this was the first time
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Speaker 3: that Israel had entered a thirtier country where it doesn't
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Speaker 3: have a mutual border, and the challenge of doing this
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Speaker 3: can't be underestimated.
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Speaker 2: It's not like flying from Sydney to Canberra.
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Speaker 3: Israel had to remove the threat between the airspace in
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Speaker 3: between Israel and Iran from Syria and Iraq. As the
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Speaker 3: Wall Street Journal reports, Israel had to take out air
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Speaker 3: defenses in Syria and Iraq, clearing the way for its
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Speaker 3: flight path to Iran. Secondly, Israel attacked Iran's air defenses
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Speaker 3: so that they could then proceed unchallenged. And Thirdly, Israel
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Speaker 3: struck keynodes in Iran's ballistic missile production and they hit
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Speaker 3: a military target in Pashan, so they weren't just in Tehran,
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Speaker 3: and in Parshan that's where Iran has worked on nuclear weapons.
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Speaker 2: My understanding is that.
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Speaker 3: The Israeli aircraft actually went into Iranian airspace. This is
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Speaker 3: incredible courage from those young fighters, but also what a
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Speaker 3: feat for Israel to pull this off with all planes
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Speaker 3: returning home safely.
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Speaker 2: They are truly heroes.
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Speaker 3: Now we don't know for sure, but the working assumption
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Speaker 3: is that Iran will now respond in some form.
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Speaker 2: But Israel has shown.
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Speaker 3: That it has the means and the measure to severely
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Speaker 3: attack Iran and successfully so, and it's learnt lessons for
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Speaker 3: how to do so when it inevitably tackles the nuclear threat.
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Speaker 3: But I have to say this, Iran poses a threat
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Speaker 3: to all of us. The ballistic missiles that were fired
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Speaker 3: towards Israel recently can reach nearly every capital in Europe,
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Speaker 3: and if Iran is allowed to continue its development of
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Speaker 3: nuclear capability, if it does develop a nuclear weapon, this
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Speaker 3: could even reach us in Australia. This is the international
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Speaker 3: community's responsibility to eliminate the nuclear threat from Iran. This
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Speaker 3: shouldn't just be left for Israel to single handedly deal with.
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Speaker 2: In another sign of just.
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Speaker 3: How weak Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are, they want
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Speaker 3: Israel to stop fighting around and they seem content to
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Speaker 3: allow Tehran to continue developing nuclear weapons. How else can
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Speaker 3: you read their comments calling for de escalation after Israel strikes, Look,
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Speaker 3: did anything.
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Speaker 1: Out of the military target?
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Speaker 12: I hope with this year, of course, we maintain the
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Speaker 12: importance of supporting Israel's right to defend itself, and we
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Speaker 12: are also very adamant that we must see de escalation
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Speaker 12: in the region going forward. This war must end. We
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Speaker 12: must get the hostages out and work toward a two
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Speaker 12: state solution de escalation.
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Speaker 2: My hope is this will end.
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Speaker 3: It used to be America that was strong. The United
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Speaker 3: States was the tough world leader dealing with terrorism and
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Speaker 3: evil regimes. But not anymore. It seems the international community
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Speaker 3: wants to turn a blind eye to Iran's nuclear development
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Speaker 3: instead of supporting and joining Israel in the fight against
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Speaker 3: Iran to protect all of us globally, the international community
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Speaker 3: again calls for de escalation and cease fire at the
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Speaker 3: precise time when Iran is at its most vulnerable, with
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Speaker 3: its proxy terror groups on their knees and their air
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Speaker 3: defenses taken down on the weekend.
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Speaker 2: It's only a.
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Speaker 3: Matter of time before America we'll have to wake up
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Speaker 3: and deal with the nuclear threat. And it can't only
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Speaker 3: be the Israeli Prime Minister Benjaminette and Yahoo battling this
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Speaker 3: evil regime on behalf of the West. Right now, let's
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Speaker 3: bring in tonight's panel, Perth, Mayre, Basil, Zemplus and Sky
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Speaker 3: News contributor Joe Hudebrand.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to you both. I want to get your feedback
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Speaker 2: on both of those topics.
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Speaker 3: Let's start with the quantus scandal surrounding Anthony Albanisi.
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Speaker 2: Joe.
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Speaker 3: These twenty two upgrades that Albanezi received from Alan Joyce,
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Speaker 3: we're hearing that not all of them were political trips,
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Speaker 3: some were family holidays.
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Speaker 2: I mean, as many.
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Speaker 3: Coalition MPs said today, this doesn't pass the pup tests.
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Speaker 8: No.
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Speaker 11: I think the best you can say about this is
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Speaker 11: that it happened a long time ago. It's clearly not
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Speaker 11: a good look. It comes obviously on the back of
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Speaker 11: the more recent and actual, in real time purchase of
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Speaker 11: the house in Copa Cabana on the New South Wales
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Speaker 11: Central Coast. So I think Albo has to be much
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Speaker 11: more careful about how he presents. He's got to understand
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Speaker 11: that when the country is doing it tough, he has
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Speaker 11: to be seen to be doing it tough. He's got
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Speaker 11: to wear a hair shirt on behalf of the country,
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Speaker 11: even though he himself may be very happy and in
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Speaker 11: a love bubble with Jody. And that's fantastic, and that's great,
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Speaker 11: and I'm genuinely happy for him. But when people are suffering,
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Speaker 11: it's just simply not a good look. Even if the
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Speaker 11: amounts of money, or even if in the case of
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Speaker 11: the house thing it's completely immaterial, it doesn't affect the
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Speaker 11: rest of it. But you know, in politics, perception is everything.
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Speaker 11: The good news is in terms of the housing I
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Speaker 11: understand that the government is not going to touch negative
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Speaker 11: gearing and that is something real and tangible that we
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Speaker 11: should all be that homeowners should be grateful for and
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Speaker 11: renters as well because it will encourage investment. But for
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Speaker 11: this stuff to come up is obviously not a good
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Speaker 11: look and hopefully the government and ALBO will be able
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Speaker 11: to put it behind them and move on to more
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Speaker 11: substantial things.
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Speaker 3: I mean, as I said at the start, their basil
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Speaker 3: this is an integrity issue and we know that the
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Speaker 3: Albanezy government blocked Qatar Airways bids for more flights to
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Speaker 3: come into Australia at the time.
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Speaker 2: This would have lowered the airfares that there.
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Speaker 3: Are such an extraordinary high airfares at the moment, So
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Speaker 3: there are questions of an integrity nature here for the
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Speaker 3: Prime Minister to answer.
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Speaker 1: Well, by the actions of the Prime minister, that's why
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Speaker 1: we have those questions of integrity, and clearly that press
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Speaker 1: conference with Joyce and the Prime Minister one after the
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Speaker 1: other speaking, it does look like a cozy relationship and
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Speaker 1: a couple of questions. I mean, it was an extraordinary
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Speaker 1: amount of flying that the Prime Minister was doing. Albeit
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Speaker 1: all declared occasionally, I have had an upgrade, and good
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Speaker 1: luck to anyone who gets an upgrade. We celebrate that
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Speaker 1: person that gets called forward and gets bumped up the front.
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Speaker 1: But it seems like the Prime Minister was getting one
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Speaker 1: for every single flight that he was taking.
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Speaker 2: That's not normal.
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Speaker 1: The other thing is did the Prime Minister's son deserve
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Speaker 1: the chairman's lounge membership? Now he may well have. He
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Speaker 1: may have had enough going on in his own career
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Speaker 1: that he deserved it, But I guess I'd say this
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Speaker 1: as well. Just imagine, just imagine it was one of
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Speaker 1: Scott Morrison's children when he was Prime Minister, albeit a
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Speaker 1: little younger. But imagine if it was Scott Morrison's child
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Speaker 1: who had the Quantus Chairman's Lounge membership. Imagine what people
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Speaker 1: would be saying.
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Speaker 3: Mean exactly, I don't think anyone at twenty two years
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Speaker 3: old could.
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Speaker 2: Say that they have had a career warrants.
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Speaker 11: Certainly, the lounges I was in when I was twenty
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Speaker 11: years old are very very different to the Chairman's lounge.
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Speaker 11: They were much much tingier and smokier, and.
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Speaker 2: Let's hope it sure they were, Joe.
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Speaker 3: But just quickly, before we get to the Queenside election,
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Speaker 3: I want to ask your thoughts and what I had
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Speaker 3: to say about how the urine around nuclear threat does
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Speaker 3: affect all of us around the world, and yet it's
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Speaker 3: Israel who's having to deal with it.
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Speaker 2: At the moment.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I can't.
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Speaker 11: I can certainly understand why you would want to see
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Speaker 11: some kind of, you know, as much sort of prestrision
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Speaker 11: as you can muster when it comes to civilian casualties
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Speaker 11: in Gaza or in Lebanon, Suden Lebanon. But going after
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Speaker 11: Iranian military targets, I mean, that is just Luke Skywalker
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Speaker 11: versus Darth Vader. That is the simplest moral decision anyone
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Speaker 11: could possibly make. The Fact that Israel is even able
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Speaker 11: to do this is, as you said, just phenomenal. And
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Speaker 11: the fact they're able to do this to hit only
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Speaker 11: military targets in Iran and come back out again, I
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Speaker 11: mean There is absolutely no possible good cause, no possible
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Speaker 11: decent purpose, that the Iranian Revolutionary Guard will ever be
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Speaker 11: put to. They have been a despotic, theocratic, theocratic, fascist
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Speaker 11: dictatorship ever since the nineteen seventy nine revolution, and anything
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Speaker 11: you can do to harm their power is a good
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Speaker 11: thing for all of humankind. So I don't see how
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Speaker 11: anyone could have moral qualms about.
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Speaker 2: It, exactly.
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Speaker 3: All right, let's turn to the Queensland election results. And
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Speaker 3: as you know, David Chris Ifaley has officially been sworn
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Speaker 3: in as Queensland's premiere.
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Speaker 2: Now, on Saturday night.
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Speaker 3: We saw Stephen Miles claim that the L and P
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Speaker 3: would struggle to form a majority, That's what he said,
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Speaker 3: and yet they've done just that. At the latest count
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Speaker 3: the LNP has won fifty one seats to Labour's thirty three,
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Speaker 3: and we're expecting LL ANDP to get to fifty three seats.
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Speaker 3: So Labour lost thirteen seats. This is not a quick result.
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Speaker 2: The Catters will have three seats.
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Speaker 3: Independence and Greens just won and at this point seventy
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Speaker 3: percent around there votes have been counted.
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Speaker 2: Now, Basil, what do you make of.
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Speaker 3: This spend that the L ANDP didn't do so well
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Speaker 3: given they have one with a governing majority.
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Speaker 1: It was an unbelievable rewriting of history on the run,
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Speaker 1: wasn't it. In fact, history hadn't even been written, and
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Speaker 1: it was being rewritten before we got there. Extraordinary from
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Speaker 1: the premiere as he was at that moment with a
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Speaker 1: concession speech that forgot just one thing, and that was
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Speaker 1: the concession. But the really damning blow, I thought, was
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Speaker 1: or to go with that information which was clearly at
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Speaker 1: worst in the balance, at best, just a flat out
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Speaker 1: lie to say they cannot form a majority government. Outrageous.
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Speaker 1: Hold your speech until you know whether that is in
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Speaker 1: play or not, or so we don't know with any
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Speaker 1: certainty as yet. Tomorrow we might know, but look, writing
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Speaker 1: is incredible. They have an eighteen seventeen sixteen seat majority
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Speaker 1: over the Labor Party. That's a big victory in anybody's book.
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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what I am running soon. If
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Speaker 1: I got that sort of victory, that would do me
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Speaker 1: every day of.
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Speaker 2: The week, one one hundred percent.
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Speaker 3: And I've always said, I think we can end up
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Speaker 3: seeing you as as premier one day, Vasil, not just
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Speaker 3: Lord mayor Joe. You know, Stephen Miles sees the leadership
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Speaker 3: from Anastagia Paliche, claiming that he would have a better
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Speaker 3: chance of winning.
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Speaker 2: Yet with this result, what do you think of that claim?
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Speaker 11: Now, look, it's gone better than expected, but that doesn't
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Speaker 11: tell you that it's gone well, or that Chris a
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Speaker 11: fully the l and peperform badly. That just tells you
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Speaker 11: how dire the expectations was. They thought it was going
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Speaker 11: to be a repeat of the famous tirago where you
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Speaker 11: could sit, you know, the entire ALP caucus around the
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Speaker 11: kitchen table, and it wasn't that. And maybe that's an
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Speaker 11: exercise in really good management of expectations. But Stephn Miles,
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Speaker 11: you know, okay, say saved the furniture, all right, find
22:04
Speaker 11: no problem. Now he's got to get out of the way,
22:06
Speaker 11: allow the party an opportunity to reset and refresh. There
22:09
Speaker 11: is no way it's going to be competitive if you've
22:11
Speaker 11: still got him hanging around. It's clear that he is
22:14
Speaker 11: a handbrake on Labour's popularity. He's only there because he's
22:18
Speaker 11: got the backing of the left wing union.
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Speaker 2: Do you think he should go now?
22:21
Speaker 7: Absolutely? Absolutely?
22:23
Speaker 11: I think him staying on his opposition leader as an
22:25
Speaker 11: incredible so you're not.
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Speaker 2: Buying that he ran a good campaign. You're just not.
22:30
Speaker 11: I think the campaign was better than the absolute, you know,
22:35
Speaker 11: disaster that it could have been, and that's fine. But
22:38
Speaker 11: having done that, for him to then stay on and
22:40
Speaker 11: say no, I'm still going to keep the good is
22:42
Speaker 11: that is either incredibly naive or incredibly narcissistic. And for
22:46
Speaker 11: the sake of the party, for the good of the party,
22:48
Speaker 11: he needs to go, and he needs to go now
22:50
Speaker 11: and give another leader the chance to hit reset and
22:54
Speaker 11: try to bring the party back.
22:56
Speaker 3: All right, Joe who ad a Brown Basil Zemplers, thank
22:58
Speaker 3: you both so much for yours. Now let's turn to
23:02
Speaker 3: the US presidential race, because it's about nine days to go.
23:06
Speaker 3: Donald Trump and Kamala Harris fighting to the finish line.
23:09
Speaker 3: The focus clearly on battleground states. We saw on the
23:13
Speaker 3: weekend that Kamala Harris continued.
23:15
Speaker 2: Her blitz in Philadelphia.
23:17
Speaker 3: Donald Trump put on a splashy rally at Madison Square
23:21
Speaker 3: Garden in.
23:21
Speaker 2: New York, and let's bring you now for more analysis.
23:25
Speaker 2: Sky News contributor Kosher Gada.
23:27
Speaker 3: Kosher, Now, this was an interesting choice to have a
23:31
Speaker 3: rally in New York, and it certainly grabbed headlines. What
23:34
Speaker 3: were the takeouts for you? And what's the strategy behind
23:38
Speaker 3: this decision?
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Speaker 13: Great bit Vichari, you know, I think it's sort of
23:43
Speaker 13: psychology and optics were To me, it looks like the
23:47
Speaker 13: ultimate flex or. It's a microclosm of where the res
23:51
Speaker 13: and the dynamics of the restand as we sit here today,
23:53
Speaker 13: which is a team Trump is on offense. The other
23:56
Speaker 13: side seems to be on defense, trying to go and
23:59
Speaker 13: defend voter blocks that are typically very advantageous to Democrats,
24:02
Speaker 13: such as blacks and Hispanics and minorities and women versus
24:05
Speaker 13: here going into deep blue New York and just showing
24:08
Speaker 13: that offensive move. I think it's also about the lineup,
24:11
Speaker 13: and it shows the realignment that has happened. It's quite
24:14
Speaker 13: stunning in this campaign with RFK Junior, Chelsea Gabbard, doctor
24:18
Speaker 13: Phil who's his daytime talk show hosts, all sorts of
24:21
Speaker 13: people coming out. And I think the third thing is
24:23
Speaker 13: that it really is normalizing what it could mean to
24:26
Speaker 13: support Trump openly. These are people from other spheres of life,
24:30
Speaker 13: and it's just a big contrast to some of the
24:32
Speaker 13: framing on the other side of He's a fascist and
24:34
Speaker 13: Hilarian and all of that. I think that's what this
24:36
Speaker 13: was about, and just showing that they can, even though
24:39
Speaker 13: they will probably not win New York, they can fill
24:41
Speaker 13: up an arena of twenty thousand people in deep blue
24:44
Speaker 13: New York.
24:46
Speaker 3: Though it hasn't, of course, stopped the claims that Trump
24:49
Speaker 3: is a fascist, because now the Democrats are saying the
24:51
Speaker 3: fact that he held the rally at this place that
24:54
Speaker 3: once had hitless supporters somehow means Trump is the anime,
24:59
Speaker 3: even though they have been countless pop stars who've held
25:02
Speaker 3: events right.
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Speaker 2: In that space. I mean, it's completely ludicrous that claim. Now,
25:07
Speaker 2: over the.
25:08
Speaker 3: Weekend, we saw Michelle Obama come out and she had
25:11
Speaker 3: this bizarre line where she said that Donald Trump wasn't
25:15
Speaker 3: doing proper interviews, when in fact it's Kamala Harris who
25:19
Speaker 3: isn't sitting down for serious scrutiny. Apart from that one
25:22
Speaker 3: interview with Brett Bayer and in fact, Donald Trump spent
25:25
Speaker 3: three hours on Joe Rogan's podcast. I'm sure everyone he
25:29
Speaker 3: has heard of him. If not, he's one of the most,
25:31
Speaker 3: if not the most popular podcasts internationally and certainly in
25:35
Speaker 3: the US.
25:36
Speaker 2: Let's have a listen to some of that interview.
25:40
Speaker 7: I picked some people that I shouldn't have picked. I
25:42
Speaker 7: picked a few people that I shouldn't have picked. And
25:46
Speaker 7: neo cohns, yeah, Neo khans or.
25:49
Speaker 10: Bad people or disloyal people or people that were just
25:53
Speaker 10: people there people advice, yeah, I.
25:57
Speaker 3: Mean kosher, you can't hide yourself and three hour interview.
26:01
Speaker 2: You can't write learn answers.
26:03
Speaker 3: What did you think were the main revelations from that podcast?
26:09
Speaker 13: You know, it's interesting because Trump is probably the most
26:11
Speaker 13: famous human being on planet Earth by this point, and
26:14
Speaker 13: before he entered politics, he was already a very well
26:17
Speaker 13: known developer and media personality in the US. So the
26:19
Speaker 13: thing about the podcast format is it allows how do
26:22
Speaker 13: you take somebody like that that is so well known
26:24
Speaker 13: and everybody has an opinion about him, good, bad, or
26:27
Speaker 13: ugly and reveal a new layer or.
26:29
Speaker 2: A new dimension.
26:30
Speaker 13: And very few mediums can do that, certainly cable TV
26:32
Speaker 13: and presidential debates and even rallies that are more scripted, canned.
26:37
Speaker 13: And here, you know, he can bob and weave between
26:40
Speaker 13: different topics. He actually calls it the weive where they
26:42
Speaker 13: went from irrigation policy in Iowa to our space aliens
26:47
Speaker 13: correct or not to a cultural question about UFC and
26:52
Speaker 13: everything in between, and it just showed a lot of
26:54
Speaker 13: personality ability to just hold all sorts of details in
26:58
Speaker 13: his mind and have opinions about them. And again, I
27:00
Speaker 13: think to the earlier point, just come across as a normal, likable,
27:04
Speaker 13: conversational guy, which is in itself such a big deal
27:08
Speaker 13: given the way he's been framed for the better part
27:10
Speaker 13: of the last decade.
27:12
Speaker 3: Kacha, just before you go, can you give us an
27:14
Speaker 3: update of where the polls were sitting at the moment
27:16
Speaker 3: for both candidates.
27:20
Speaker 13: Still razor tight. There's a little bit of movement, a
27:22
Speaker 13: couple actually that were favorable to Kamla, but overall they're
27:25
Speaker 13: in the margin of error or Trump is up in
27:27
Speaker 13: all of them. I think at this point, along with Poles,
27:30
Speaker 13: you've got to look at the whole picture. Betting markets
27:32
Speaker 13: seemed to be heavily favoring Trump, battleground state polls and
27:36
Speaker 13: early voting seemed to be the momentumus with him. But
27:38
Speaker 13: nine days is a week in politics, and I think
27:41
Speaker 13: the bottom line is anything can still happen.
27:43
Speaker 3: All right, Indeed, Kosha Gata, thank you so much for
27:46
Speaker 3: joining us, and we'll have full coverage of the US
27:48
Speaker 3: election every.
27:49
Speaker 2: Night on the show for the next week.
27:52
Speaker 3: Now after the break, if Labor had a bad Queensland election,
27:55
Speaker 3: it was goodbye to bad rubbish with the great So
27:58
Speaker 3: I'm going to speak about.
27:59
Speaker 2: This with Cameron Milner and David Gazard.
28:02
Speaker 3: Next plus is the Albanezi government seriously blaming Israel and
28:08
Speaker 3: Jews for our high inflation. James Patterson is coming up
28:12
Speaker 3: on the show and he lays into this outrageous and
28:16
Speaker 3: inaccurate claim. Don't miss his fiery interview. Welcome back, Well,
28:24
Speaker 3: plenty more to discuss. Let's bring in now Tonight's political panel,
28:28
Speaker 3: former Howard government advisor David Gazard and former chief of
28:31
Speaker 3: staff to Bill Sholton.
28:33
Speaker 2: Cameron Milner, welcome to you both.
28:35
Speaker 3: Well, let's return to Anthony Albanese's quantus saga. This is
28:39
Speaker 3: a scoundal that's just going to get bigger and bigger.
28:42
Speaker 2: As the week goes on. I've got Joe Aston on
28:44
Speaker 2: the show tomorrow night.
28:45
Speaker 3: Cameron, you've written another scathing article in The Nightly tonight
28:49
Speaker 3: about this very topic. Do you agree the perception is
28:53
Speaker 3: now cementing that the Prime Minister just likes sa Freebie?
28:59
Speaker 14: Well, it's this is a huge scandal because we all
29:02
Speaker 14: know he's been up for the free tickets, the free
29:04
Speaker 14: lunchers and everything else. But this is him actually getting
29:08
Speaker 14: personal benefit, personal benefit that we could actually monetize. We
29:12
Speaker 14: know how much a cost to get a ready deal
29:13
Speaker 14: on Quotas and how much a first class ticket to
29:16
Speaker 14: London costs, and that's what he was training. He was
29:18
Speaker 14: bringing up his personal agent, personal travel agent, who happened
29:21
Speaker 14: to be the CEO of Coutus, Alan Joyce, rang him
29:24
Speaker 14: up to get this arranged not once, but twenty two
29:27
Speaker 14: times at least that we already know about. So this
29:30
Speaker 14: was about personal benefit for him while he was a
29:32
Speaker 14: Transport minister, while he was the chief regulator of quotas,
29:36
Speaker 14: holding other people out of the market and benefiting Quotas.
29:39
Speaker 14: This is a scandal, an absolute scandal. And the Albanese
29:43
Speaker 14: family with the Chairman's lounge everything else too, it's just
29:45
Speaker 14: continued on even after he's got Toto one sharing. So
29:49
Speaker 14: absolute scandal and a personal benefit to the Prime Minister
29:52
Speaker 14: as a crew here which we can monetary value.
29:55
Speaker 2: That's the problem, David.
29:57
Speaker 3: There's also the integrity issues, which is hi This is
30:00
Speaker 3: a matter of public interest because it raises questions about
30:03
Speaker 3: the decisions that Albanizi made that affected Quantas and other
30:07
Speaker 3: rival airlines, both when he was Transport Minister and Prime
30:11
Speaker 3: Minister David Gazzart.
30:13
Speaker 7: Yes, absolutely, and you've seen the Coalition starting to seize
30:17
Speaker 7: on this and they're making the very obvious point. Well,
30:20
Speaker 7: hang on a second. What was mentioned in your frequent
30:24
Speaker 7: discussions with Alan Joyce while you were Transport Minister. How
30:28
Speaker 7: did that relationship carry forward and how did that affect
30:31
Speaker 7: Quantison's status when Qatar was looking to enter the marketplace
30:36
Speaker 7: and what would have been the flow on benefits to
30:39
Speaker 7: the cost of airline tickets for every Australian Should there
30:42
Speaker 7: have been more competition in the sector. So suddenly it's
30:46
Speaker 7: Anthony Alberesi with his cliff top mansion, Anthony Alberesi with
30:50
Speaker 7: his upgrades, but everyone else paying higher prices for their
30:54
Speaker 7: airline fares in a cost of living crisis. So this
30:58
Speaker 7: is bad. I agree with kem on this. The other
31:01
Speaker 7: thing that sort of stuns me on this is this
31:03
Speaker 7: is the second bite at this story where his son
31:06
Speaker 7: as a member of the Quannis Lounge has been mentioned.
31:10
Speaker 7: He's still a member. I mean, most sensible politicians, were
31:13
Speaker 7: they to upgrade the significant other into the plus one status,
31:18
Speaker 7: would have said, look, sorry, Nathan, you're out of the
31:21
Speaker 7: Chairman's twenty two. Your chairman, you've been there for a while,
31:24
Speaker 7: but I'm sorry, it's all over. He's still there. St
31:27
Speaker 7: Anthony Albanezi has decided to keep pursuing the gravy train
31:32
Speaker 7: for his son's benefit. Just fight the views of Australian
31:35
Speaker 7: voters all the way through.
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Speaker 3: That's utterly extraordinary and shure the cost of living crisis.
31:40
Speaker 2: Go for it, Cameron.
31:43
Speaker 14: I was going to say, this is the absolute sense
31:44
Speaker 14: of entitled to this guy. I mean, twenty eight years
31:47
Speaker 14: in the Parliament and he can't see the conflict. Can't
31:49
Speaker 14: see the conflict here because it's all down to, as
31:52
Speaker 14: David said, his personal benefit, where the rest of us
31:54
Speaker 14: as consumers have to put up with.
31:56
Speaker 3: Contas yeah, and being on hold for hours at a
31:59
Speaker 3: time and then getting call centers and you can't.
32:01
Speaker 2: Get through it. It's canceled exactly.
32:05
Speaker 3: Not to mention the flight credits issue, I'll get stuck
32:07
Speaker 3: into that tomorrow night with Joe Aston. Now let's talk
32:10
Speaker 3: about the Greens result at the Queensland election.
32:12
Speaker 2: I mean the Greens thought.
32:14
Speaker 3: They were going to pick up a multiple more seats
32:16
Speaker 3: in a Brisbane.
32:18
Speaker 2: They ended up losing one of their two seats.
32:20
Speaker 3: This was humiliating Cameron and somehow Federal Green Green's leader
32:25
Speaker 3: Adam Bound is trying to blame Labor for all of this.
32:30
Speaker 14: He should only look at his own backyard because he's
32:32
Speaker 14: no longer an environment party. He's a party of extremism,
32:35
Speaker 14: extremism on his lamb, and a disgusting anti Semitic party,
32:39
Speaker 14: and voters are onto them. Shari voters are onto them.
32:41
Speaker 14: They don't like what they say about Israel, they like
32:43
Speaker 14: what they say about Jews, and the Greens are an
32:45
Speaker 14: extreme political party and voters have rejected them. They voted
32:49
Speaker 14: against the me Act, they voted because in Queensland and
32:51
Speaker 14: even in the Melbourney Council elections day the Greens tanked.
32:55
Speaker 3: What do you think, David, do you think the voters
32:58
Speaker 3: are just turning off the Greens?
33:02
Speaker 7: Look, their policies have been extremist and if you're going
33:05
Speaker 7: to run with the big dogs in the Fed Parliament,
33:08
Speaker 7: you've got to be able to stand on your own
33:09
Speaker 7: two feet. There's no point turning around and pointing at
33:13
Speaker 7: Anthony Alberanezi or others that have attacked them because their
33:16
Speaker 7: base is under threat by the Greens and saying, oh,
33:19
Speaker 7: it's all their fault. You have to go out and
33:21
Speaker 7: prosecute your own case. You've got to make the case
33:24
Speaker 7: as to why you've been blockading MP's officers and supporting
33:29
Speaker 7: the CFMU at the most despicable moment in that trade
33:34
Speaker 7: union's history. These are the things they've done. You've got
33:37
Speaker 7: to stand up and argue for your policies and if
33:40
Speaker 7: you let others define you, well, you've got no one
33:42
Speaker 7: to blame but yourselves.
33:46
Speaker 2: Well.
33:46
Speaker 3: The Liberals, meanwhile, have launched an ad campaign warning voters
33:50
Speaker 3: about the risks of electing a Tial's.
33:52
Speaker 2: Have a look.
33:56
Speaker 5: Since the last election till independent MPs have voted most
33:59
Speaker 5: of with the Greens, followed by Labor. Teal MP's voted
34:04
Speaker 5: with the Greens against tougher laws to stop criminals getting visas.
34:08
Speaker 5: Teal MPs want higher taxes, including on capital gains, housing
34:12
Speaker 5: and a higher GST.
34:14
Speaker 2: What would that mean for our economy?
34:16
Speaker 5: The next election will be close, with many commentators predicting
34:19
Speaker 5: a hung parliament. Are Labor, Greens, Teals minority government.
34:23
Speaker 3: Don't risk it, Cameron, this is the big question whether
34:27
Speaker 3: the support for the Teals is going to remain at
34:30
Speaker 3: the next federal election.
34:31
Speaker 14: What do you think, Well, I think we see at
34:35
Speaker 14: the state level the Teal voters come back, so certainly
34:38
Speaker 14: the Liberal vote is returning in those seats. Whether it
34:41
Speaker 14: will be enough is a question, and whether althey Albanies
34:44
Speaker 14: will do a dirty preference deal like you did last
34:46
Speaker 14: time to try to get Teals elected just so he
34:48
Speaker 14: can stay Prime Minister. Because Albo doesn't care if it's
34:50
Speaker 14: a minority government as long as he's PM. That's the
34:53
Speaker 14: price he wants to pay, and he's quite happy to
34:55
Speaker 14: see as many Greens as many Teals have the whippand
34:57
Speaker 14: over legislation, as long as he keeps the keys, so
35:00
Speaker 14: the lodge and obviously the phone called Alan Joyce Andancotas.
35:04
Speaker 2: David, how are you reading this?
35:05
Speaker 3: I mean you were formerly very senior in John Howard's office.
35:10
Speaker 3: A lot of the Teal vote initially was because people
35:13
Speaker 3: didn't want to support Scott Morrison ahead of the last election.
35:17
Speaker 3: So do you think there might be some who don't.
35:20
Speaker 2: Get back in.
35:22
Speaker 7: Look, this is a phenomenon that has been around for
35:25
Speaker 7: a while. It's not just the Teals. When I was
35:28
Speaker 7: working for John Howard, it was the start and the
35:32
Speaker 7: resurgence of Pauline Hanson in One Nation that caused John
35:36
Speaker 7: Howard the heartburn at that time. Prior to that was
35:39
Speaker 7: the Democrats. We've seen Clive Palmer come forward. So the
35:44
Speaker 7: Teals of the latest iteration of people parking their votes
35:46
Speaker 7: because they're protesting about something, and often the public debate
35:52
Speaker 7: and the polity moves on. The big thing for the
35:55
Speaker 7: Teals at this election, I think is going to be
35:58
Speaker 7: to decide which which way they may go should there
36:03
Speaker 7: be a big, big swing to the Coalition, which looks likely.
36:06
Speaker 7: I mean, I don't think anyone's sort of saying that
36:09
Speaker 7: that Peter Dunton is going to win in his own
36:11
Speaker 7: right like Steven Miles did over the weekend. But you mean, sorry,
36:16
Speaker 7: christophid over the weekend. That's right. But they're going to
36:19
Speaker 7: be faced with the decision. Are we like Rob Oakshot
36:24
Speaker 7: and Tony Windsor who went the wrong way as independence
36:27
Speaker 7: and back Julia Gillard and lost their electorates at the
36:31
Speaker 7: two thousand and what was it thirteen election?
36:34
Speaker 2: Yeah?
36:34
Speaker 7: Or are we going to actually be smart about Bob Kattock,
36:38
Speaker 7: because there are some independents that have stuck around for
36:41
Speaker 7: a long time and they know which way the win's blowing,
36:43
Speaker 7: and they can discern the views of their voters, and
36:45
Speaker 7: they're very canny about picking it. This will be an
36:48
Speaker 7: important election for the Teals. It also shows that Peter
36:52
Speaker 7: Dutton has figured out he cannot win this election by
36:56
Speaker 7: just focusing on out of metropolitan seats and shoring up
36:59
Speaker 7: those those regional seats where Labor made gains at the
37:02
Speaker 7: last election. He has to win some of those to
37:05
Speaker 7: your seats back, and clearly this advertising campaign is a
37:08
Speaker 7: sign that he's marked out that territory recognizing that yeah, yes,
37:12
Speaker 7: that's right, is one you can win in.
37:14
Speaker 3: Yeah, really good points there, right, David Gazard, Cameron Milner,
37:17
Speaker 3: thank you both, really appreciate your time. Now still to
37:21
Speaker 3: come that the Abenezi government has failed to deal with
37:23
Speaker 3: the radical Islamic hate.
37:25
Speaker 2: Preachers, so now community groups are taking legal action.
37:29
Speaker 3: I'll speak about this breaking story with James Patterson. Plus
37:33
Speaker 3: I'll speak with a cousin of one young hostage still.
37:36
Speaker 2: Held captive in Gaza.
37:38
Speaker 3: Yet his interview was censored by the taxpayer funded public broadcaster.
37:44
Speaker 3: That's right after the break, welcome back. Well, for more
37:50
Speaker 3: than a year, the family of Nama Levy has been
37:53
Speaker 3: doing everything in their power to free her from the
37:57
Speaker 3: dungeons in Gaza. She was only ninety when she was kidnapped.
38:01
Speaker 3: She would have spent her twentieth birthday in unimaginable.
38:05
Speaker 2: Horrific conditions.
38:07
Speaker 3: And I've spoken with former hostages who told me directly
38:11
Speaker 3: that women are being beaten, raped and starved. Well here
38:15
Speaker 3: in Sydney, Australia, NAMA's cousin Zack has been pushing for
38:19
Speaker 3: her release, and he did an interview with SBS, but
38:23
Speaker 3: the broadcaster refused to publish it. I understand that SBS
38:28
Speaker 3: took a transcript. The managers took a transcript, They highlighted
38:32
Speaker 3: the lines that they thought were problematic. They told the
38:35
Speaker 3: journalist I met Rehak that he couldn't run it on
38:39
Speaker 3: his show, and they dumped the print out in the bin.
38:43
Speaker 3: The journalists managed to retrieve and save a copy of
38:46
Speaker 3: the interview that he completed with NAMA's cousin Zak, and
38:50
Speaker 3: here's a.
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Speaker 2: Snippet of that.
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Speaker 15: Before October seventh, the plan was for my uncle and
38:57
Speaker 15: I hunted to come and visit us in Australia. They
39:00
Speaker 15: are amaz they are Ayeleza parent parents and the plan
39:06
Speaker 15: was for them to come and visit us in Australia
39:07
Speaker 15: and travel in Australia. And after what happened on October seventh,
39:10
Speaker 15: we spoke to them and we said that they will
39:14
Speaker 15: come to Australia with Nama and that is the plan.
39:20
Speaker 15: And you know, for that to mean, we must return
39:24
Speaker 15: all the hostages.
39:26
Speaker 3: Now, that interview was complete and ready for broadcast just
39:30
Speaker 3: a few days before SBS pulled it. I asked SBS
39:34
Speaker 3: Corporate Affairs about this and they said in a statement,
39:37
Speaker 3: the Zaki Shaka interview did not air because mister Riehak
39:40
Speaker 3: had not completed the story at the time of his resignation.
39:43
Speaker 3: This is not a case of censorship. SBS appreciates the
39:47
Speaker 3: time and insights provided by mister Shaka, and SBS Hebrew
39:51
Speaker 3: intends to return to and complete the piece when the
39:54
Speaker 3: program recommences. This version of events is strongly disputed. I've
39:59
Speaker 3: got in my possession a copy of the completed interview.
40:02
Speaker 2: I've just played a clip from it to you now.
40:05
Speaker 3: Now, I would never censor an interview with the family
40:09
Speaker 3: of a current hostage.
40:10
Speaker 2: So I'm pleased to say that Zach joins me live
40:13
Speaker 2: now here in studio.
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Speaker 3: Zach, thank you so much for your time, thank you
40:17
Speaker 3: for having me, and I'm so sorry to hear what
40:19
Speaker 3: you're all going through. Can you start by telling us
40:21
Speaker 3: what happened to your cousin Nama on October seven last year.
40:26
Speaker 15: Yeah, so, I'm sure everyone saw the video of Nama
40:30
Speaker 15: dragged from the back of the car, the back of
40:32
Speaker 15: the jip into the restat of the of the jip
40:38
Speaker 15: that was published live broadcast by the terrorist and I
40:43
Speaker 15: saw it on that day. It was very hard to
40:47
Speaker 15: identify that this is Nama. Obviously it's been a few
40:49
Speaker 15: years since I saw her since we moved to Australia.
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Speaker 15: But after we got the news, that was shocking.
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Speaker 2: And so she was kidnapped.
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Speaker 3: She was nineteen, but she was you know in Israel,
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Speaker 3: everyone who every young person has to join the army.
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Speaker 3: So she was working as a as an Israeli soldier
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Speaker 3: when she was kidnapped.
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Speaker 15: Yes, so she arrived at that base just a couple
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Speaker 15: of days before the attack attack on the attack on Israel.
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Speaker 15: And yes, she was kidnaped from there and you know,
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Speaker 15: like any other eighteen years old teenager, it is compulsory.
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Speaker 15: You have to go to the army. And that's one
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Speaker 15: of the things that we were talking about on the podcast.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that podcast never ran. Amitri Haack says the interview
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Speaker 3: was pulled, scrapped. He wasn't given permission to run it.
41:43
Speaker 3: What's your response to this censorship by a taxpayer funded
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Speaker 3: public broadcaster in Australia.
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Speaker 15: Look, the purpose of the broadcast was very clear to
41:53
Speaker 15: raise the awareness of, you know, the situation. We need
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Speaker 15: to release. We need the hostage to be released, you know,
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Speaker 15: yesterday and we spoke about that. We spoke about Nama,
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Speaker 15: what she achieved. She was a peace activist. She went
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Speaker 15: to the US with Israeli and Palestinians kids for discussions
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Speaker 15: about peace and how the two people can live together.
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Speaker 15: Then we spoke about Penny One visiting Israel by this
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Speaker 15: but decided not to visit the southern area when all
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Speaker 15: other foreign minister decided to go and visit the Kiboz seams.
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Speaker 15: They're very disappointed, Yeah, very disappointing.
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Speaker 3: Do you think the Australian government's doing enough to help
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Speaker 3: the hostages? They're still around one hundred hostages being helped
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Speaker 3: in the tunnels of Gaza.
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Speaker 2: Your cousin Nama Levi one of them.
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Speaker 3: All we hear from Albanisi and Petty Wang is for
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Speaker 3: a ceasefire. Why aren't they putting pressure on Qatar to
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Speaker 3: force the release of the hostages.
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Speaker 15: Yeah, so that's not clear. I don't know why. For
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Speaker 15: eleven months, Isabella's firing missiles on Israel and they said nothing.
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Speaker 15: But now after Israel started to respond to these attacks,
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Speaker 15: they immediately called forces fire regarding the hostages. Yeah, they
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Speaker 15: need to put pressure on every anyone who can impact
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Speaker 15: the negotiation and close the deal release the hostages.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Zach, thank you very much for joining us.
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Speaker 3: Really appreciate your strength. And we're all praying that Nama
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Speaker 3: comes home safe.
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Speaker 15: Thank you very much, thank you.
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Speaker 2: Now still to come.
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Speaker 3: The Albenzi government has dared to suggest that Israel and
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Speaker 3: Jews are to blame for inflation not coming down in Australia.
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Speaker 2: Well, how credible is this? Came when claim when.
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Speaker 3: The IMF shows that inflation is falling globally but just
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Speaker 3: not in Australia. James Patterson is going to fire up
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Speaker 3: about this. After the short break Well, the Albenzy government
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Speaker 3: is blaming Israel's war on terror for inflation staying high
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Speaker 3: in Australia. This is despite the IMF releasing forecasts showing
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Speaker 3: that Australia is expected to record the second highest inflation
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Speaker 3: rate out of forty two countries next year. Well, my
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Speaker 3: friend and colleague Aaron Molin couldn't have said it better
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Speaker 3: when she said this.
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Speaker 8: Is he saying that Jews fighting jihadis is responsible for inflation?
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Speaker 2: Sounds like it.
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Speaker 8: I suspect he needs to look just a little closer
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Speaker 8: to home.
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Speaker 3: Jews fighting jihadists responsible for inflation unbelievable. Let's bring in
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Speaker 3: now shutter Home Affairs Minister James Patterson. James, what do
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Speaker 3: you think about this claim? Given the IMF forecast?
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Speaker 8: Shari I thought Australia was in trouble under the Albanezy
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Speaker 8: labor government, but it turns out it's even worse than
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Speaker 8: I feared. Because Jim Chalmer's plan to bring inflation down
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Speaker 8: in Australia relies on peace in the Middle East. It
44:54
Speaker 8: relies on harmass and the Hooties and Hesbalah and Iran
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Speaker 8: to stop their genocidal war on his It also relies
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Speaker 8: on Israel giving up on trying to flee their hostages,
45:04
Speaker 8: or giving up on removing Hesbuler's rockets aimed at their cities.
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Speaker 8: And of course all of this is an elaborate political
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Speaker 8: ruse by the government to try and distract Australians from
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Speaker 8: their own failings. But as you point out, the IMF
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Speaker 8: believes will have the second highest inflation in the world
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Speaker 8: next year. Our like minded democracies are all cutting interest rates,
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Speaker 8: whether it's the United States or Canada, or New Zealand
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Speaker 8: or the United Kingdom, and in Australia there seems like
45:28
Speaker 8: there's no hope in sight if you listen to the RBA.
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Speaker 8: So Jim Chalmers should take responsibility for his own failings,
45:34
Speaker 8: stop trying to blame everyone else for inflation, which is
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Speaker 8: a home grown phenomenon.
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Speaker 3: Well, Sir James, look, we've seen that the Albanezy government
45:43
Speaker 3: and state governments have just failed to deal with radical.
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Speaker 2: Islamic hate preachers. Well.
45:48
Speaker 3: Now Alexi Dimitriadi and he's been doing excellent reporting in
45:52
Speaker 3: the Australia, and he's reporting that a Jewish community group
45:57
Speaker 3: is now taking one radical cleric to the federal over
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Speaker 3: his sermons where he's calling the Jewish community vile and
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Speaker 3: treacherous people. James, why is it up to community groups
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Speaker 3: to fight this hatred and incitement to violence?
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Speaker 8: Well, unfortunately, char it's because the Albanesi government has abandoned
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Speaker 8: the Jewish community and we now have the profoundly unjust
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Speaker 8: situation where the Jewish community is expected to take its
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Speaker 8: own civil action to enforce the law and deal with
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Speaker 8: this hatred instead of the federal government using the criminal
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Speaker 8: system to take action to protect all of the community
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Speaker 8: against extremist hate preachers. It is a crime to incite
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Speaker 8: violence against other communities. These people should be charged and
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Speaker 8: convicted in the courts instead of being asked to bankroll
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Speaker 8: and bear the burden of their own legal action to
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Speaker 8: try and deal with this problem. And it's because labor
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Speaker 8: has vacated the field.
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Speaker 3: The law should be there for everyone, not just for
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Speaker 3: some people. And you know, I don't want to get
46:56
Speaker 3: into the whole Candice Owen saga now, but this is
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Speaker 3: one instant since where Tony Burke is prepared to fight
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Speaker 3: anti Semitism, but he won't lift a finger when it's
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Speaker 3: hate preachers in his own backyard. James, I want to
47:08
Speaker 3: ask you about Iran's ambassador to Australia. He's back in
47:11
Speaker 3: the news, this time for calling Israel's retaliatory strikes on Iran.
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Speaker 2: A terror attack. What do you make of these comments
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Speaker 2: and what do you think Penny Wong should do about it?
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Speaker 8: Well, this is yet more inflammatory and irresponsible rhetoric from
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Speaker 8: the Iranian ambassador. He's been hauled into the Department of
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Speaker 8: Foreign Affairs and Trades many times now for a cup
47:33
Speaker 8: of tea. It clearly is looking for another free cup
47:36
Speaker 8: of tea of the Australian taxpayer, because he hasn't been
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Speaker 8: intimidated and his behavior hasn't changed on any of the
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Speaker 8: previous occasions. The question for the Albanezer government is are
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Speaker 8: there any limits for foreign ambassadors in Australia? Is there
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Speaker 8: anything that they could do which would require them to
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Speaker 8: be sent back home? It appears on their watch the
47:53
Speaker 8: answer is no, and they can behave with complete impunity.
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Speaker 3: If it was up to you, if you were in
47:58
Speaker 3: government now, you were the Home Affairs Minister instead of
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Speaker 3: Tony Burke, would you be encouraging the Iranian ambassador to
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Speaker 3: be sent out?
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Speaker 8: Well, we have publicly previously said on multiple occasions we
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Speaker 8: think he has overstayed his welcome and overstepped his mark.
48:15
Speaker 8: In addition to that, we've said that the IRGC, the
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Speaker 8: Revolutionary Guard Corps, should be listed as a terrorist organization
48:22
Speaker 8: because they are the largest sponsor of Hamas and the
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Speaker 8: Hootis and Hesbala and others in the region. So you
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Speaker 8: can expect tough action from the Dutton government on the
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Speaker 8: Iranian regime because they are the primary destabilizer of that region,
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Speaker 8: the primary sponsor of the war in Israel.
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Speaker 3: Just on Iran, we saw on Saturday morning our time
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Speaker 3: that Israel did carry out strikes.
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Speaker 2: Against Iran, as we just mentioned. Do you think that at.
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Speaker 3: Some point the international community is going to have to
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Speaker 3: come together and deal with the nuclear threat?
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Speaker 8: What Israel was entirely justified in responding to those direct
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Speaker 8: acts of aggression from Iran on two pres occasions. Iran
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Speaker 8: previously attacked Israel only through proxies, but is now openly
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Speaker 8: doing so. And it is in all of our interests
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Speaker 8: that deterrence is reinforced and that Iran is put back
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Speaker 8: in its box, that it is not emboldened, because they
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Speaker 8: threaten the stability of not just Israel, but the entire
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Speaker 8: region and the world, and it is Israel which is
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Speaker 8: bearing that burden alone, I think, because the international community
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Speaker 8: has failed to reign in the Iranian regime and they
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Speaker 8: are behaving with impunity, and it's understandable what Israel feels,
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Speaker 8: as the state most threatened by that, that they have
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Speaker 8: to take action in their own self defense.
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Speaker 3: Well said, Well said James Patterson. Thank you very much
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Speaker 3: for your time as always, and I'll see you tomorrow
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Speaker 3: night at eight o'clock. Right now, here's Paul back from
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Speaker 3: Queensland and in the man Cave.