Latest / CelinaSpookyBoo / I WENT TO SALEM TO CONTACT LORRAINE BEYOND THE GRAVE
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- 0:00Speaker 1: We asked that Lorraine and Ed Warren see fit to
- 0:04Speaker 1: answer questions and to give me messages so Selena and
- 0:08Speaker 1: Adam can have the safest journey possible.
- 0:11Speaker 2: I have felt so unsettled, like I'm not all the
- 0:13Speaker 2: way back in my body ever since that happened.
- 0:16Speaker 3: The title is true. The year was 2025.
- 0:19Speaker 2: The month was June when Adam and I jumped in
- 0:22Speaker 2: our car and we drove to Salem, Massachusetts to see Angel,
- 0:26Speaker 2: a psychic who I needed her help to contact Lorraine
- 0:29Speaker 2: Warren immediately.
- 0:30Speaker 3: From beyond the grave and i.
- 0:32Speaker 2: Know there was a lot of talk about ed and
- 0:34Speaker 2: lorraine warren because a lot of people think that they
- 0:36Speaker 2: were fraudsters my genuine opinion i think that definitely some
- 0:39Speaker 2: stuff was but i think that in the beginning their
- 0:41Speaker 2: intentions started as pure of course people fall into the
- 0:45Speaker 2: commercial excitement of the paranormal and maybe things were a
- 0:48Speaker 2: little different you hear a lot of the things about
- 0:50Speaker 2: their movies and how they only pass through but yet
- 0:52Speaker 2: the movie was all about them People like to make money,
- 0:55Speaker 2: but hey, I'm not gonna lie, I think their hearts
- 0:58Speaker 2: were in a great place when they started their paranormal endeavors.
- 1:01Speaker 2: I think that they wanted to help people, and I
- 1:03Speaker 2: think that they wanted to change the world, but do
- 1:05Speaker 2: I think they got taken away with it a little bit?
- 1:07Speaker 3: Maybe. I could see how it could happen.
- 1:09Speaker 2: Now, you're wondering, why did I need to travel to Salem,
- 1:12Speaker 2: Massachusetts to talk to Lorraine Warren when Lorraine Warren herself
- 1:16Speaker 2: was actually not a fan of psychics, Not a fan
- 1:19Speaker 2: of tarot cards. Not a fan of any of that stuff. Now,
- 1:22Speaker 2: that's interesting as well to me. Because was she not
- 1:24Speaker 2: a fan because she was afraid she was going to
- 1:25Speaker 2: be debunked?
- 1:26Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 1:27Speaker 2: But she was not. Might be because she was Catholic.
- 1:30Speaker 2: But again, you're talking to demons and the dead. I
- 1:33Speaker 2: don't understand why you would not be into this stuff.
- 1:35Speaker 2: But again, back it up, Selena. Why did I feel
- 1:38Speaker 2: like I needed to go to Salem?
- 1:40Speaker 3: Ever since I was a little girl, I saw, heard,
- 1:43Speaker 3: and felt things that.
- 1:43Speaker 2: Were clearly not normal. Things that you couldn't really talk
- 1:46Speaker 2: to teachers or kids about without sounding absolutely freaking bonkers. Now,
- 1:51Speaker 2: your question is probably, Selena, why didn't you just talk
- 1:53Speaker 2: to Lorraine Warren? Why didn't you use your abilities?
- 1:56Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to be honest.
- 1:56Speaker 2: I'm like any normal person where anytime I have a
- 1:59Speaker 2: weird psychic moment, I try to rationalize how it could
- 2:02Speaker 2: not be real because that's what a lot of us do. Now,
- 2:05Speaker 2: the truth is, back in, oh goodness, the early 20-teens,
- 2:09Speaker 2: I did have a very brief phone conversation with Lorraine
- 2:12Speaker 2: Warren before she passed away. Very quick, wasn't in depth,
- 2:15Speaker 2: I have literally no juice to tell you, I don't
- 2:17Speaker 2: think she wanted to talk to me, but she was very,
- 2:19Speaker 2: very nice. It was, um, I talked to her regarding
- 2:21Speaker 2: a podcast, and it was it was strange but it
- 2:24Speaker 2: was fine and it's funny because when she came across
- 2:26Speaker 2: it was kind of the exact same vibe and you
- 2:28Speaker 2: are going to see those clips in just a moment
- 2:30Speaker 2: now back in june 2025 this is before my son
- 2:33Speaker 2: was born this was before anything adam and i sat down.
- 2:35Speaker 3: And we had a super deep conversation he.
- 2:38Speaker 2: Kind of said to me we have a baby coming
- 2:40Speaker 2: where do you see your future what do you want
- 2:42Speaker 2: to do what is the plan and hey i love
- 2:44Speaker 2: ghost hunting you've noticed on the We've been going to
- 2:47Speaker 2: a lot of haunted places.
- 2:48Speaker 3: We've been doing a lot of spooky stuff.
- 2:50Speaker 2: We've been working on the television show, which we didn't
- 2:52Speaker 2: even know about yet when we went to Salem. But
- 2:55Speaker 2: it kind of felt like the trajectory made a lot
- 2:57Speaker 2: of sense.
- 2:58Speaker 3: But he said, what do you want to do? I said,
- 2:59Speaker 3: I want to do paranormal stuff. I know that. He's like, okay,
- 3:01Speaker 3: but what do you want to do?
- 3:02Speaker 2: Do you want to go ghost hunting at all the
- 3:04Speaker 2: places that people go and do all the same stuff
- 3:07Speaker 2: that a lot of YouTubers do?
- 3:08Speaker 3: And I was like, abso-freaking-lutely. He's like, yes, makes sense.
- 3:11Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to do? And I
- 3:14Speaker 2: sat in silence and I thought to myself and I said,
- 3:16Speaker 2: I want to help people with their paranormal problems. It
- 3:20Speaker 2: is so fun to ghost hunt all of these like
- 3:22Speaker 2: known ghost places. But when I think about it and
- 3:24Speaker 2: I think about the work that Ed and Lorraine Warren
- 3:27Speaker 2: did traveling around and helping people in these paranormal charged locations,
- 3:31Speaker 2: I want to do that. I remember there There's a
- 3:33Speaker 2: show called Paranormal State where they actually went and helped
- 3:36Speaker 2: haunted people, haunted places and haunted things.
- 3:39Speaker 3: And that show, I was so young when I found
- 3:42Speaker 3: the reruns of it.
- 3:43Speaker 2: And I just knew that this is my calling and
- 3:45Speaker 2: this is what I was supposed to do. So I
- 3:48Speaker 2: sat with it for a little while and I said, hey.
- 3:50Speaker 2: You know, Ed and Lorraine Warren passed away. There is
- 3:53Speaker 2: no one out there that's really connecting with people in
- 3:56Speaker 2: haunted locations anymore.
- 3:57Speaker 3: I wonder if we could be that for people. Obviously,
- 4:00Speaker 3: never to replace them.
- 4:01Speaker 2: They are legendary in the things that they did. But hey,
- 4:04Speaker 2: there is a new world and a new age. And hey,
- 4:07Speaker 2: I think that the world needs someone like this.
- 4:09Speaker 3: The truth is, I do. I have this gift.
- 4:11Speaker 2: I don't know exactly what it is. I'd say it
- 4:12Speaker 2: has clairvoyant and mediumship juice to it. But I've always
- 4:16Speaker 2: called myself the home reader. I pick up things. I
- 4:19Speaker 2: can't just call on it, but I feel so drawn
- 4:22Speaker 2: to it. And I know that in the past, if
- 4:24Speaker 2: you've read my first book, The Home Reader, I used
- 4:26Speaker 2: to work on paranormal cases and I was able to
- 4:29Speaker 2: really help people and it really fulfilled me and it
- 4:31Speaker 2: fulfilled us. So this is what I wanted to do.
- 4:33Speaker 2: I wanted to go to Salem. I wanted to connect
- 4:35Speaker 2: with Lorraine and I wanted to kind of get her
- 4:38Speaker 2: blessing to fill the massive shoes that they left behind.
- 4:42Speaker 2: And that is exactly what we did. So these clips
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- 6:18Speaker 4: So Hey, Selena.
- 6:39Speaker 5: What you doing? Dying. Why?
- 6:42Speaker 3: Because of these suitcase. Help me. Don't film.
- 6:46Speaker 4: Help.
- 6:52Speaker 1: So we're going to start with a quick meditation, opening
- 6:54Speaker 1: up our crown chakra, our third eye, and helping meditation
- 6:57Speaker 1: come in. We do have a picture of Lorraine underneath
- 7:00Speaker 1: this black mirror because none of us are connected to
- 7:02Speaker 1: her in any way except for being fans of her work.
- 7:06Speaker 1: So we want to try to make everything for her
- 7:08Speaker 1: to come in. Okay. I'm going to utilize clairvoyance, clairsentience,
- 7:12Speaker 1: which is feeling, and also my pendulum because she didn't
- 7:14Speaker 1: have a problem with pendulum, surprisingly. Eyes closed. Breathe in
- 7:19Speaker 1: deep through your nose and out through your mouth. With
- 7:22Speaker 1: your eyes still closed, still breathing with intent, visualize a
- 7:27Speaker 1: deep purple light forming on the crown of your head.
- 7:31Speaker 1: See that deep purple light stretching from your head towards
- 7:35Speaker 1: the ceiling. See it going through the ceiling, past the trees.
- 7:39Speaker 1: See it picking up speed through the clouds, past from
- 7:43Speaker 1: where you can follow. Breathe in deep through your nose.
- 7:46Speaker 1: Feel the breath of life in your lungs and the
- 7:48Speaker 1: connection with that deep purple light with what is beyond.
- 7:52Speaker 1: We asked that Lorraine and Ed Warren see fit to
- 7:56Speaker 1: answer questions and to give me messages so Selena and
- 8:00Speaker 1: Adam can have the safest journey possible. I definitely feel
- 8:06Speaker 1: like someone's here. Do you feel it too?
- 8:08Speaker 2: I got vertigo when I was doing the manifestation. That's
- 8:11Speaker 2: usually a sign for me.
- 8:13Speaker 1: This is something you guys have already been doing?
- 8:14Speaker 3: A little bit. I have.
- 8:17Speaker 1: Trying to clear out energy? Trying to create goodness again?
- 8:21Speaker 3: Definitely.
- 8:23Speaker 5: On a personal level, 100%. And we want to expand
- 8:26Speaker 5: that to help others.
- 8:28Speaker 1: She's sassy, I feel like. It's almost like you don't
- 8:31Speaker 1: need her permission. You're already doing it.
- 8:33Speaker 3: I think it's more of, yes. And in a way,
- 8:37Speaker 3: I think I want it for her, but I also
- 8:38Speaker 3: want it because.
- 8:39Speaker 1: She wants you to stop using Ouija boards.
- 8:42Speaker 2: It's funny because we went to the museum yesterday and
- 8:45Speaker 2: we were talking about that and he was showing us
- 8:47Speaker 2: pictures and telling us about that.
- 8:49Speaker 1: It's just a good way to bring in evil. Mm-hmm.
- 8:52Speaker 1: You've had enough of that. You've had enough of that.
- 8:55Speaker 1: Always trust your instincts too. If something feels like it's
- 8:57Speaker 1: too much, stop.
- 8:58Speaker 3: Okay.
- 8:59Speaker 1: Okay. Like if you go into a building or a
- 9:00Speaker 1: place or a graveyard and it's too sad, there's going
- 9:03Speaker 1: to be a lot of sad. I don't think there's
- 9:05Speaker 1: a lot of preparation for sad. You guys have had scary.
- 9:08Speaker 1: You've had creepy. I don't think you've had sad.
- 9:11Speaker 2: I have it with people sometimes. Like we had it
- 9:13Speaker 2: yesterday in the shop where I went in and I
- 9:15Speaker 2: saw somebody and I just, I'd left. The vibe wasn't right.
- 9:19Speaker 1: So continue to do that. That's important to her, too.
- 9:21Speaker 1: That's something she didn't do. She pushed too hard.
- 9:23Speaker 5: In the sad?
- 9:24Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
- 9:25Speaker 5: Okay.
- 9:25Speaker 1: In the sad and the scary, the dangerous. Not so
- 9:27Speaker 1: much the scary, but the dangerous. Spirits can be extremely dangerous.
- 9:31Speaker 1: They hurt Ed.
- 9:32Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 9:33Speaker 1: And protect yourself, too. Not just with symbols, but like
- 9:38Speaker 1: salt water, Epsom salt. You want to protect your energy.
- 9:42Speaker 1: Selenite's really good. Okay. But you have her blessing if
- 9:45Speaker 1: you want it.
- 9:47Speaker 2: Okay.
- 9:47Speaker 1: I'm just seeing if she minds if I use cards
- 9:49Speaker 1: real quick.
- 9:50Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 9:52Speaker 1: Two of discs. Take care of your physical health, both
- 9:54Speaker 1: of you. When you work with the spirit, it takes
- 9:56Speaker 1: and it takes and it takes and it takes. And
- 9:59Speaker 1: the thing about the spiritual realm is it doesn't give.
- 10:01Speaker 1: It doesn't. They have nothing to give.
- 10:03Speaker 4: Okay.
- 10:04Speaker 1: You especially take care of your mental health.
- 10:06Speaker 5: Yep.
- 10:07Speaker 3: Okay?
- 10:08Speaker 1: You tend to go above and beyond to make sure
- 10:10Speaker 1: everyone else is safe and you forget about yourself. Don't
- 10:12Speaker 1: do that. That's going to be really dangerous for you.
- 10:15Speaker 4: Okay.
- 10:15Speaker 1: Okay?
- 10:16Speaker 3: Yep.
- 10:16Speaker 5: Absolutely.
- 10:17Speaker 1: Selena, you don't have to do it all.
- 10:18Speaker 2: Okay.
- 10:19Speaker 5: Okay.
- 10:19Speaker 1: If you're really excited about a place and it seems
- 10:22Speaker 1: bad or not good or nothing, because sometimes you go
- 10:25Speaker 1: somewhere and there's nothing.
- 10:26Speaker 5: Yep.
- 10:27Speaker 1: It's okay to walk away.
- 10:28Speaker 5: Just say.
- 10:29Speaker 1: Just, this isn't for me.
- 10:30Speaker 3: I have a strange question. So it was a weird coincidence.
- 10:33Speaker 2: We bought a bunch of stuff yesterday and we left
- 10:35Speaker 2: it all in the room. And then I decided I
- 10:37Speaker 2: wanted to take it all to the truck last night
- 10:38Speaker 2: so I didn't have to this morning. And it was
- 10:40Speaker 2: interesting because I actually purchased a 100-year-old Ouija board yesterday.
- 10:44Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
- 10:45Speaker 2: I don't know how I left it in the room,
- 10:46Speaker 2: but I left it in the room. And I remember
- 10:48Speaker 2: laying there and I had a nightmare. I'm like, oh,
- 10:50Speaker 2: but I can't have the nightmare because the board isn't here.
- 10:52Speaker 2: And then Adam woke up and he told me he
- 10:54Speaker 2: also had a nightmare.
- 10:55Speaker 5: Yeah, I had weird dreams.
- 10:56Speaker 2: And then she just brought up about playing with Ouija boards,
- 10:59Speaker 2: which is interesting because I'm not someone who does, but
- 11:02Speaker 2: I bought that one with an intention.
- 11:04Speaker 5: Collect them. Yeah, collect them. Which is your form of
- 11:06Speaker 5: playing with them maybe, yeah.
- 11:07Speaker 2: But then it was weird with the fact that I
- 11:09Speaker 2: didn't take, I literally turned around and looked and had
- 11:12Speaker 2: everything in the room that I was taking and then
- 11:13Speaker 2: I woke up and it was at the end of
- 11:15Speaker 2: the bed and I was like, but I swore I
- 11:17Speaker 2: took that.
- 11:18Speaker 1: Just be careful with that. Put it in a lockbox. Yeah,
- 11:21Speaker 1: because you can't return it, right?
- 11:23Speaker 5: I don't think so.
- 11:24Speaker 3: eBay exists.
- 11:27Speaker 1: Yeah. But yeah, I put it in a lockbox. It's
- 11:30Speaker 1: not great.
- 11:31Speaker 3: That one's not great.
- 11:32Speaker 5: Okay.
- 11:33Speaker 1: And you want to know if you put it in
- 11:34Speaker 1: your car?
- 11:34Speaker 3: Well, it's in the car now.
- 11:36Speaker 1: But last night you thought you put it in the car.
- 11:38Speaker 5: I thought I took everything.
- 11:40Speaker 4: No.
- 11:40Speaker 1: I don't want to tell you that it moved from
- 11:42Speaker 1: the car back to your hotel room, but sometimes especially
- 11:44Speaker 1: heavy spiritual objects can make you not see them.
- 11:46Speaker 5: Mind blind. Yeah.
- 11:48Speaker 1: So they can mess with you a little bit. You
- 11:49Speaker 1: aren't hurt, but mentally, spiritually a little bit. They take.
- 11:53Speaker 3: They take.
- 11:54Speaker 1: If they want you to be mind blind, there's no
- 11:56Speaker 1: amount of protection that you can do to lose that.
- 12:00Speaker 3: Are we safe to drive home with it?
- 12:02Speaker 1: Put it in your trunk.
- 12:03Speaker 3: Do you have a trunk? Yeah. Yeah. We'll put it
- 12:06Speaker 3: in the back.
- 12:07Speaker 1: And put some selenite on it.
- 12:08Speaker 3: Selenite? I bet we can find that in Salem.
- 12:12Speaker 1: But yeah, you have her blessing. Ed feels a little
- 12:14Speaker 1: bit scared, but I think he was just, he was
- 12:16Speaker 1: more physically damaged by what they did than she was.
- 12:20Speaker 1: She was definitely emotionally and spiritually damaged. Mm-hmm. But he's
- 12:23Speaker 1: just more worried that you guys might get in a
- 12:25Speaker 1: situation where you can't get out of. 99% of the time,
- 12:27Speaker 1: spirits can't hurt you. But sometimes they can.
- 12:30Speaker 3: And when they can.
- 12:31Speaker 1: They can.
- 12:32Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 12:32Speaker 1: And one of them almost made you walk off a dock, what,
- 12:35Speaker 1: two years ago?
- 12:35Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
- 12:36Speaker 2: That's what I find when I go really deep. And
- 12:38Speaker 2: that's what scares me the most is when I decide
- 12:41Speaker 2: to connect.
- 12:41Speaker 3: Like, I can't do it.
- 12:41Speaker 2: I can't just, like, snap into it right now. But
- 12:43Speaker 2: when I sit and I get into it and I
- 12:45Speaker 2: get deep, like, it's like I feel like sometimes, like,
- 12:48Speaker 2: bits and pieces. It's not like spirit comes back with.
- 12:50Speaker 3: Me, but, like.
- 12:50Speaker 1: They take a part of you.
- 12:51Speaker 2: Like, there's sweats on me or something. Like, there's a
- 12:53Speaker 2: part of them that comes back with me.
- 12:55Speaker 1: No, that's a very true thing. The best thing to
- 12:57Speaker 1: do when you do that, go home and wash your hair.
- 12:59Speaker 1: Wash your hair. The suds come down. Check it out.
- 13:02Speaker 5: Yep.
- 13:02Speaker 1: And just get it out and then eat something heavy
- 13:04Speaker 1: like nuts or bread or cheese, something heavy and grounding
- 13:07Speaker 1: because not only physically are they on you and you
- 13:10Speaker 1: get that off, they're also kind of in you mentally
- 13:12Speaker 1: and spiritually and you want to be grounded yeah because
- 13:15Speaker 1: the meditation we just did that ungrounded us a little
- 13:17Speaker 1: bit that brought us up.
- 13:18Speaker 3: It gave me that vertigo like I felt like I
- 13:19Speaker 3: was yeah.
- 13:20Speaker 1: Like we got hot right yeah started to tingle.
- 13:23Speaker 2: It's just so interesting because I think where we're at
- 13:24Speaker 2: with it is we went through this big period where
- 13:26Speaker 2: Adam was very sick and I was very sick and
- 13:28Speaker 2: now we've got to this part where like our vibrations
- 13:29Speaker 2: are high and I feel like there you know there
- 13:31Speaker 2: aren't a lot of people out there that can help
- 13:32Speaker 2: with like the paranormal stuff that have the best intentions
- 13:35Speaker 2: and I I hate calling them backyard ghost hunters, but
- 13:37Speaker 2: I feel like that happens a lot and they just
- 13:39Speaker 2: stir everything up. And I feel like there's so many
- 13:40Speaker 2: situations where, like you said, 99% of the time they
- 13:43Speaker 2: can't hurt you.
- 13:43Speaker 3: It could just be a loved one.
- 13:45Speaker 2: Like we could help cross them over or help settle
- 13:48Speaker 2: things or explain things like poltergeists and stuff like that.
- 13:50Speaker 2: But the fear is again, like, you know, he was
- 13:52Speaker 2: sick and I was sick and I'm just so afraid
- 13:54Speaker 2: of sliding back into what it used to be like
- 13:57Speaker 2: for us. But at the same time, we fight with
- 13:58Speaker 2: just all wanting to help people understand yeah.
- 14:01Speaker 1: So it's just all about recognizing your triggers and that
- 14:04Speaker 1: gut instinct like we were talking about before like if
- 14:06Speaker 1: it feels wrong it is yeah you know what haunted
- 14:09Speaker 1: and wrong feels like it's two very different feelings right
- 14:12Speaker 1: pay attention to right here if it feels like your
- 14:15Speaker 1: heart's beating out of your chest and there's pressure it's
- 14:17Speaker 1: time to go okay and just let it go yeah
- 14:21Speaker 1: a mistake that all people do is they don't let
- 14:23Speaker 1: it go.
- 14:24Speaker 3: Yeah, and we've worked really hard on that letting it
- 14:26Speaker 3: go thing.
- 14:27Speaker 1: And never do it alone.
- 14:28Speaker 5: Ever.
- 14:29Speaker 2: Never. That's why I like.
- 14:31Speaker 3: Us as a team.
- 14:32Speaker 1: You just need someone to pull you back.
- 14:34Speaker 5: Right. Yeah. And I mean that is me for you
- 14:37Speaker 5: for sure because I always do stay very grounded.
- 14:39Speaker 3: He does. He's a Taurus. I love him.
- 14:43Speaker 1: Me too.
- 14:46Speaker 2: The other thing I want to ask about, a few
- 14:49Speaker 2: months ago I had the surgery, which I was telling
- 14:51Speaker 2: you about. Is there just any insight to that or
- 14:53Speaker 2: like where I did go or what did happen? Because
- 14:54Speaker 2: I had this unbelievable knowledge of just everything for a
- 14:57Speaker 2: few hours. And I was in the room and I
- 14:59Speaker 2: was completely sure that there was this other version of
- 15:01Speaker 2: myself in the house and the shadow version of myself.
- 15:04Speaker 3: And I have felt so unsettled. Like I'm not all
- 15:06Speaker 3: the way back in my body ever since that happened.
- 15:09Speaker 1: Can I ask you some questions? Is that right? I
- 15:11Speaker 1: can give you the right information and not just guess
- 15:13Speaker 1: all willy-nilly?
- 15:14Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 15:14Speaker 1: Because I think I have an idea, but I just
- 15:15Speaker 1: want to make sure. So during your surgery, do you
- 15:17Speaker 1: have memories of it?
- 15:18Speaker 5: Yes.
- 15:19Speaker 1: And you knew where your body was?
- 15:21Speaker 3: I got up out of it. I got up out
- 15:23Speaker 3: of it.
- 15:24Speaker 2: I thought I had to leave and turned around and
- 15:25Speaker 2: saw them working on me and then explained to them after,
- 15:28Speaker 2: you know, exactly how they had my head wrapped and
- 15:30Speaker 2: things they had said.
- 15:32Speaker 3: But I was out.
- 15:32Speaker 5: You were viewing yourself from the corner of the room.
- 15:34Speaker 2: And then they were talking about waking up and I
- 15:36Speaker 2: was like, I need to get back in my body.
- 15:37Speaker 2: So then I went and I sat on myself, laid back.
- 15:40Speaker 2: And then once when I laid back, I woke up.
- 15:42Speaker 1: And when you looked down at yourself, it was you, right? Yeah.
- 15:44Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 15:44Speaker 1: It sounds like you astral projected.
- 15:45Speaker 5: Okay.
- 15:46Speaker 1: Okay.
- 15:47Speaker 5: And then following that, about three, four hours later into
- 15:50Speaker 5: the night.
- 15:51Speaker 3: Later on.
- 15:52Speaker 5: You had this super connectedness. She could almost kind of
- 15:56Speaker 5: see through the ceiling a little bit and kind of
- 15:59Speaker 5: see that things weren't I.
- 16:01Speaker 3: Was explaining an attic that I'd never been in.
- 16:04Speaker 5: And you could sense and touch me and sense where
- 16:08Speaker 5: my brain injuries were in the dog. You could sense
- 16:11Speaker 5: the scars. I saw their past lives. It was like
- 16:15Speaker 5: hyper-connectedness for a couple hours.
- 16:17Speaker 2: He was asking me questions about life and stuff and
- 16:19Speaker 2: I could just answer them. I've never said those words.
- 16:22Speaker 3: I don't know where I got the answers from.
- 16:24Speaker 5: For a moment?
- 16:24Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 16:25Speaker 1: It sounds like, well, we all know your astrological signs.
- 16:29Speaker 4: Yes.
- 16:30Speaker 1: So very, very psychic. You've always been very psychic. I
- 16:33Speaker 1: remember telling you that you had connection with spirit.
- 16:35Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 16:35Speaker 1: So you stepped out of yourself and you were assisted, yes.
- 16:38Speaker 1: But it was also a very traumatic experience for you physically.
- 16:41Speaker 1: So spiritually, you stepped out and you made connection. So
- 16:44Speaker 1: someone who is already connected getting extra connection.
- 16:46Speaker 5: Okay.
- 16:47Speaker 1: A part of you probably still has a toe on
- 16:48Speaker 1: the other side.
- 16:50Speaker 2: It's what it feels like. The dreams that I've been having.
- 16:53Speaker 2: I remember after I was saying that, I'm like, you
- 16:56Speaker 2: see them too, right? Because For me, it was more
- 16:58Speaker 2: in my mind's eye, but now it's become to this
- 17:00Speaker 2: point of it's like outside. And I'm like seeing people
- 17:03Speaker 2: with people or we'll sit somewhere and my ear will
- 17:05Speaker 2: ring so loud. And then I just in my head
- 17:07Speaker 2: know exactly what they look like and what they're like,
- 17:10Speaker 2: not the words, but I can tell what they're trying
- 17:12Speaker 2: to say to me.
- 17:13Speaker 3: And it's like I'm but I don't want to approach
- 17:15Speaker 3: strangers and be like, hey.
- 17:17Speaker 1: No one wants to be that creepy girl.
- 17:18Speaker 3: No.
- 17:20Speaker 5: No. Yeah, it's a hard line to dance.
- 17:24Speaker 1: You know, you've always been a little open and you
- 17:26Speaker 1: just flung yourself open. You can't really shut that door.
- 17:29Speaker 1: You can kind of put like barricades in front of
- 17:31Speaker 1: it to help you with grounding and blocking. But once
- 17:34Speaker 1: it's open, it's open. And it happened. We were talking
- 17:36Speaker 1: about October earlier. And when I'm walking home in October,
- 17:39Speaker 1: I just look at my feet because I'm not sure.
- 17:41Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 17:42Speaker 1: Who's real and who isn't.
- 17:43Speaker 3: So much energy.
- 17:43Speaker 1: And I don't need eye contact with who isn't.
- 17:45Speaker 3: No, that's incredible.
- 17:48Speaker 1: It's great knowing that he's an earth sign, too, because
- 17:50Speaker 1: he definitely helps ground you. He'll help bring you back.
- 17:52Speaker 3: Always does.
- 17:55Speaker 1: With that disclaimer. Spirit will try to separate. Yeah. And
- 17:59Speaker 1: not that they're going to want to possess you or
- 18:00Speaker 1: take over you. Spirit doesn't do that, but they're going to.
- 18:02Speaker 2: Make you a little pissed off so you say something
- 18:04Speaker 2: wrong or just.
- 18:05Speaker 1: Or they want you to see. And if they have
- 18:06Speaker 1: pain or sadness or anger, you're a way for them
- 18:09Speaker 1: to feel it, to see it. And if Adam will
- 18:11Speaker 1: take that away from them, they'll do anything they can
- 18:14Speaker 1: to separate you two.
- 18:14Speaker 5: Okay. Because they want to project it on her.
- 18:17Speaker 1: They want someone else to feel it, right?
- 18:19Speaker 5: Have you ever.
- 18:20Speaker 1: Like, misery loves company, right? Have you ever been so
- 18:22Speaker 1: angry or so sad you just needed to trauma dump
- 18:24Speaker 1: on somebody?
- 18:25Speaker 5: Oh, yeah. same thing and that's all they are really
- 18:27Speaker 5: i guess because they're that built up not all they
- 18:29Speaker 5: are but they're that built up energy right so that's
- 18:31Speaker 5: like they're almost their specific goal because they have intelligence
- 18:34Speaker 5: maybe but not beyond kind of what we seek yeah.
- 18:38Speaker 1: It's like their core they are who they are and
- 18:41Speaker 1: a lot of times people come back and they're them
- 18:43Speaker 1: right they have love they sometimes they're stubborn sometimes they're
- 18:46Speaker 1: they don't care they're just there right but then not
- 18:49Speaker 1: every person is good and not every spirit is good
- 18:51Speaker 1: sometimes people have extreme tragedy. Sometimes people commit extreme tragedy.
- 18:56Speaker 1: And those people become spirits as well. And those are
- 18:59Speaker 1: the ones that are going to want you to feel
- 19:00Speaker 1: that intensity. No, I believe.
- 19:02Speaker 2: And I've noticed that on certain trips and stuff where
- 19:04Speaker 2: I get, like for me, I get nauseous.
- 19:05Speaker 5: I get sick.
- 19:06Speaker 2: I start throwing up violently. And That happened at the
- 19:09Speaker 2: Crescent Hotel with, like, Sam and Colby and Chris. I
- 19:11Speaker 2: was so sick I had to fly home. We were
- 19:13Speaker 2: just in Indiana. The same thing happened again. And it
- 19:16Speaker 2: was just, like, for me, that's when I know something's, like,
- 19:19Speaker 2: clinging and just doesn't have anything good to say. Not
- 19:21Speaker 2: that it's evil, but it's just, like, and it also
- 19:25Speaker 2: feels like it figures out that I can feel it
- 19:27Speaker 2: other than normal, like, than normal people.
- 19:31Speaker 3: And it just gives it all to me because they
- 19:33Speaker 3: know I can. Is that sound right?
- 19:35Speaker 1: I'm commenting. My medium friends and I talk about it
- 19:37Speaker 1: all the time. Spirit knows. So tell me something. Actually,
- 19:40Speaker 1: this is something we were talking about literally this time
- 19:42Speaker 1: last week. So this is funny. Have you ever woken
- 19:43Speaker 1: up in the middle of the night and known that
- 19:45Speaker 1: you weren't alone? Oh, yeah. But you knew that you
- 19:47Speaker 1: were alone.
- 19:47Speaker 2: Physically.
- 19:47Speaker 1: Like no one was there for Adam, but you knew
- 19:49Speaker 1: you weren't alone.
- 19:50Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 19:51Speaker 1: Because when you're sleeping, your shields are down. Every time
- 19:53Speaker 1: a medium is around spirits are automatically drawn to them
- 19:56Speaker 1: like a beacon, like a light with a moth. So
- 19:58Speaker 1: when you're sleeping and your shields are down, they're just coming.
- 20:01Speaker 5: Okay.
- 20:02Speaker 2: I have such a hard time going to sleep. And
- 20:03Speaker 2: it's like my brain gets, it's like I start getting
- 20:05Speaker 2: all these thoughts. And then my brain starts thinking. But
- 20:07Speaker 2: then I realize some of the thoughts that I'm having,
- 20:10Speaker 2: they're not my thoughts. It's like other people's memories. And
- 20:12Speaker 2: it's stuff, it's things that I don't really relate to.
- 20:14Speaker 2: But I'm just thinking about it so fast.
- 20:16Speaker 1: No, that's very common. And there could also be anxiety.
- 20:19Speaker 3: Yeah. Hey!
- 20:21Speaker 5: Combination of the two, yeah.
- 20:22Speaker 1: Can it make sense to other people that you're with?
- 20:24Speaker 1: They're like, we're fine, Selena. And you're like, I'm not.
- 20:27Speaker 1: I need.
- 20:27Speaker 4: A minute.
- 20:28Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 20:29Speaker 1: Or an hour. Or to just go.
- 20:31Speaker 3: To just go.
- 20:32Speaker 1: If you ever get to the point where you feel
- 20:33Speaker 1: nauseous again, or you feel faint, or you feel like
- 20:36Speaker 1: you are not well, please promise me you'll leave. You'll
- 20:39Speaker 1: just walk away from it.
- 20:40Speaker 5: I think more important now, too, because we're always just
- 20:44Speaker 5: playing when we do the ghost hunt videos, but now
- 20:46Speaker 5: we have this intent. that's helping people.
- 20:49Speaker 2: See that's such a huge piece of it because like
- 20:50Speaker 2: i do the ghost hunting with my friends and we're
- 20:52Speaker 2: doing it at night and you know we're we're doing
- 20:54Speaker 2: it but it's also fun where what i want to
- 20:57Speaker 2: do it's like it's deeper it takes longer it's getting
- 20:59Speaker 2: into people's lives and stuff is it worth.
- 21:01Speaker 1: It it really depends on what you think is worth
- 21:04Speaker 1: it you will be able to help a lot of
- 21:05Speaker 1: people you bring closure to people alive and dead but
- 21:08Speaker 1: it's going to take a lot out of both of
- 21:09Speaker 1: you your marriage will remain strong right if not stronger,
- 21:13Speaker 1: but is it worth it for you mentally, physically, spiritually?
- 21:16Speaker 1: I can't answer that for you.
- 21:18Speaker 2: I feel like we need to choose really important cases
- 21:20Speaker 2: that we want to put our energy into.
- 21:21Speaker 5: We need to gauge it too. Maybe start with something
- 21:23Speaker 5: small and see what we can handle too, I think, right?
- 21:26Speaker 3: Because that's the thing.
- 21:27Speaker 2: The videos are fun and I've seen my friends run
- 21:29Speaker 2: into horrible things But like, I don't feel like normal
- 21:32Speaker 2: people where I can always just like snap back into
- 21:33Speaker 2: my normal life.
- 21:34Speaker 4: Right.
- 21:35Speaker 2: Like it lingers with me where other people can go
- 21:37Speaker 2: and do the ghost hunt, which is awesome. But then
- 21:39Speaker 2: I wonder if it's manifested in their lives in other ways.
- 21:42Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean?
- 21:42Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 21:43Speaker 5: But like we can't be as ignorant to it because
- 21:45Speaker 5: of how deep we are and how spiritual we are. Like, yeah,
- 21:49Speaker 5: sometimes it's I envy people that can just walk away
- 21:53Speaker 5: and then it's over. Right.
- 21:54Speaker 2: Yeah, I've just, I've learned so much about myself and
- 21:57Speaker 2: about this world in the past, you know, decade in general.
- 22:00Speaker 2: And it's like, I feel like I really could help people.
- 22:02Speaker 2: But again, it's balancing it with.
- 22:04Speaker 1: Well, good, but you can't help everybody.
- 22:06Speaker 5: Yes. And Selene is the kind of person that loves
- 22:09Speaker 5: to try and help.
- 22:10Speaker 1: Oh, no.
- 22:11Speaker 5: No.
- 22:12Speaker 1: Especially as this gets bigger and bigger. And I do
- 22:14Speaker 1: feel like it will get bigger. People are going to
- 22:16Speaker 1: be messaging you and emailing both of you, like, begging
- 22:19Speaker 1: you for help. And you're going to feel their pain.
- 22:21Speaker 1: You're going to want to help them all.
- 22:23Speaker 3: Just like Lorraine did.
- 22:23Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 22:24Speaker 2: They were telling us stories like people called her like
- 22:26Speaker 2: every five minutes. We need to think on this.
- 22:29Speaker 1: You both have to say no, too, because I know
- 22:31Speaker 1: you're saying that Adam's so grounded and so great. You're
- 22:33Speaker 1: also ruled by Venus. You care for people.
- 22:36Speaker 5: Yes, absolutely. He does.
- 22:37Speaker 1: You will listen to a sob story before you even do.
- 22:41Speaker 1: And it's real people with real pain and real trauma.
- 22:44Speaker 1: And you have to say no to quite a bit.
- 22:46Speaker 5: Yes. Yeah.
- 22:48Speaker 1: And you can say no with resources to other people
- 22:50Speaker 1: that can help them. It doesn't have to be just no,
- 22:53Speaker 1: but it can be just no.
- 22:55Speaker 2: I think maybe the game plan is like we try
- 22:57Speaker 2: it once and we see what it takes from us.
- 23:00Speaker 5: And maybe we try and find somebody closer to us.
- 23:03Speaker 5: Or maybe it's something we already suspect or know about
- 23:06Speaker 5: that is going to understand if we just be like, nah,
- 23:09Speaker 5: we're done here.
- 23:09Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 23:10Speaker 3: Just try it.
- 23:11Speaker 1: Just try it. And if it goes wrong, that's fine too.
- 23:14Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 23:14Speaker 1: Just remember protection. And you're not alone. There's a lot
- 23:17Speaker 1: of spirits around you that are rooting for you as well.
- 23:19Speaker 1: Do you have a lot of protector spirits? Both of
- 23:22Speaker 1: you do?
- 23:23Speaker 2: He's never really touched on his or seen yours or
- 23:25Speaker 2: anything before. I know of this one man who I always,
- 23:28Speaker 2: when I meditate, I go to and I visit him.
- 23:30Speaker 2: And then sometimes it's like a hut. And sometimes there's
- 23:33Speaker 2: other people in there, but I never see their faces,
- 23:34Speaker 2: but I know him. But Adam, I don't know if
- 23:36Speaker 2: you have any insight on that, but Adam has never...
- 23:38Speaker 2: connected to anything or anyone before I mean for me over.
- 23:41Speaker 1: The years is it yeah yeah a little bit gentle
- 23:45Speaker 1: a little bit maternal but your mother's still around so
- 23:47Speaker 1: it's not your mom but.
- 23:49Speaker 5: But I have lots of family members that could play that.
- 23:51Speaker 2: Role that are gone yeah or even spirit guides or
- 23:54Speaker 2: something I've always thought his sister was around yeah that's
- 23:58Speaker 2: true that would make sense.
- 23:59Speaker 1: So quickly but yeah just very wants to take care
- 24:03Speaker 1: of you and yours are very pushy very they want
- 24:06Speaker 1: you to do everything.
- 24:09Speaker 2: The way he makes me feel is that I'm capable
- 24:11Speaker 2: of all and I should be, you know, he's always like,
- 24:13Speaker 2: you can do anything that you want and you are capable.
- 24:16Speaker 3: And that's how he makes me feel.
- 24:18Speaker 1: Which is great. But also ask yourself, is this what
- 24:20Speaker 1: I want to do? If the answer is no, it's okay.
- 24:22Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you this right now. If the
- 24:23Speaker 1: answer is I don't want to do this, that's okay.
- 24:27Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that you failed. It doesn't mean that
- 24:28Speaker 1: you don't have a gift or that you're not utilizing
- 24:30Speaker 1: your gift.
- 24:31Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 24:31Speaker 1: You also have a lot at stake right now. Not
- 24:34Speaker 1: just the two of you.
- 24:35Speaker 5: But more.
- 24:35Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 24:36Speaker 5: Yeah. And we definitely need to try it before that
- 24:39Speaker 5: happens and get a cage on this.
- 24:41Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 24:43Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 24:44Speaker 3: Thank you.
- 24:44Speaker 1: No, thank you. Thank you, Lorraine.
- 24:47Speaker 5: Yes.
- 24:47Speaker 3: Thank you, Lorraine. Thank you.
- 24:48Speaker 1: I'm just going to let her know she can stay
- 24:50Speaker 1: if she wants and go if she must.
- 24:53Speaker 5: Okay.
- 24:54Speaker 3: Thank you, Angel. That was wonderful.
- 24:56Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it is just one of those things where,
- 24:58Speaker 2: and we've talked about this over the last couple of days,
- 25:00Speaker 2: being like, is this the right thing? Because we were
- 25:03Speaker 2: really into it. And then like, I got super food
- 25:06Speaker 2: poisoning last week. And while I had food poisoning, I'm like,
- 25:08Speaker 2: I had this overwhelming feeling that it wasn't the right path.
- 25:10Speaker 2: But then the next day I was like, but no,
- 25:12Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 25:13Speaker 3: I feel like I want to do it.
- 25:14Speaker 2: So I think trying it once and like putting the
- 25:16Speaker 2: feelers out there, because if it doesn't work, then it
- 25:19Speaker 2: doesn't work.
- 25:20Speaker 3: We did, you know, we did a video out of it.
- 25:21Speaker 3: We figured it out, but... Yeah, there we go.
- 25:24Speaker 1: So you're going to go forward and do it.
- 25:26Speaker 5: Okay.
- 25:27Speaker 1: Is it going to be easy?
- 25:27Speaker 5: No. No.
- 25:29Speaker 3: Okay.
- 25:30Speaker 5: Sometimes it'll be fun.
- 25:32Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 25:32Speaker 5: What in life's fun and fulfilling if it's easy? Exactly.
- 25:36Speaker 2: For the main part, like, I just want to, like,
- 25:37Speaker 2: we've learned through, like, doing our haunted item videos.
- 25:40Speaker 3: Like, we're good at helping things move on.
- 25:42Speaker 2: And I feel like there's just spirit sometimes that's stuck
- 25:44Speaker 2: that doesn't realize it can go.
- 25:45Speaker 3: And that's what I'm hoping to run into. You know
- 25:48Speaker 3: what I mean? Make connections with people and help move
- 25:50Speaker 3: things on.
- 25:51Speaker 1: Those can be really sad, too. A lot of times
- 25:53Speaker 1: spirits that are stuck and they don't know that they're
- 25:55Speaker 1: stuck are mostly children. Yeah.
- 25:58Speaker 3: Or old people, I find.
- 26:00Speaker 1: Yes, old people, too. Old people, too. Because they're just,
- 26:03Speaker 1: they're so in and out of it. Old people are
- 26:05Speaker 1: a little bit easier to deal with than.
- 26:07Speaker 3: The kids.
- 26:07Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 26:08Speaker 5: Not as stubborn. They're not as.
- 26:09Speaker 1: No, it's just less traumatic.
- 26:11Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 26:12Speaker 1: They're a little bit more accepting of like, oh, okay.
- 26:15Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 26:15Speaker 1: Kids just start thinking about all the things they wanted
- 26:17Speaker 1: to do.
- 26:17Speaker 2: We ran into this little boy and it's when I
- 26:19Speaker 2: realized how connected Adam was because he picked out the
- 26:21Speaker 2: story of the boy who was in this bear and
- 26:23Speaker 2: it all came through completely validated by this, by the
- 26:26Speaker 2: Alice box. And it was just, it was, I cried
- 26:28Speaker 2: by the end of the video because I could literally
- 26:29Speaker 2: see him. Like it took so long to get him
- 26:31Speaker 2: to like his, his mother who was kind of waiting
- 26:33Speaker 2: for him. But that was really, that was an interesting one.
- 26:35Speaker 5: Absolutely. Yeah. All right.
- 26:38Speaker 3: Thank you so much.
- 26:39Speaker 1: It was really my pleasure. Thank you.
- 26:41Speaker 3: Oh, thank you.
- 26:41Speaker 1: Just remember to stay safe.
- 26:43Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the scariest part.
- 26:44Speaker 2: We're going to go to that, go buy a big
- 26:47Speaker 2: hunk of selenite at the, yes, the Silversmith. I hope
- 26:51Speaker 2: you guys enjoyed that. It was weird and juicy and strange.
- 26:56Speaker 2: And to this day, I still think about that day
- 26:58Speaker 2: because it just felt very much like.
- 27:00Speaker 3: The phone conversation that I had with Lorraine.
- 27:03Speaker 2: I didn't feel like she wanted to talk to me,
- 27:04Speaker 2: but I felt kind of like a stubborn aunt, which
- 27:07Speaker 2: was like, okay, yeah, it's probably a good idea.
- 27:09Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean? Like, it felt like
- 27:11Speaker 3: that for me.
- 27:12Speaker 2: So, the truth is, Adam and I want to help
- 27:13Speaker 2: people with their haunted locations or people who are haunted
- 27:17Speaker 2: in general.
- 27:17Speaker 3: Truth is, yeah, I've been to an exorcism.
- 27:20Speaker 2: I've been to crazy haunted houses that there isn't a
- 27:22Speaker 2: single YouTube video about. It's actually crazy because today, Adam
- 27:26Speaker 2: and I are going on a ghost hunt to a
- 27:27Speaker 2: place that you've never seen on YouTube. It's actually going
- 27:31Speaker 2: to be... filmed for our To Be series, the season
- 27:34Speaker 2: two that's coming out. But I want to start helping
- 27:36Speaker 2: you guys. So there is going to be a form
- 27:39Speaker 2: or an email down below. So if you guys are
- 27:42Speaker 2: having any crazy paranormal activity that's plagued you, your family,
- 27:44Speaker 2: or your home, For all of your lives.
- 27:46Speaker 3: Please reach out. We'd love to make a video about it.
- 27:48Speaker 2: Get down to the nitty gritty. Find out where it's
- 27:51Speaker 2: coming from. What it stems from. And maybe help you live.
- 27:54Speaker 3: A better life. At no cost to this. There's always
- 27:57Speaker 3: weird Reddit posts. Like she's trying to get money.
- 27:59Speaker 5: No.
- 27:59Speaker 3: I just want to help you guys.
- 28:00Speaker 2: Alright.
- 28:00Speaker 3: I love you guys. Until next time. Stay spooky boo crew.
- 28:05Speaker 4: Ed and Lorraine Warren.
- 28:07Speaker 3: Selena and Adam Myers.
- 28:08Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 28:09Speaker 2: That doesn't sound as cool. Ed and Lorraine Warren. Selena
- 28:13Speaker 2: and Adam Meyers.
- 28:14Speaker 3: You know what, though? It's okay. It's updated.
- 28:16Speaker 1: It's fun.
- 28:16Speaker 5: It's fresh.