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Season Primer: Part 2 · Boundary Corner Podcast

• 0:59
  Hi, Sheldon. Let's start us off on defense,
• 1:01
  big guy. Yeah, I got dips in here, but
• 1:04
  just to kind of kick start the defensive discussion, obviously
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  last year we kind of alluded to this, but you know, the defense
• 1:09
  had some good stats. You look at average yards per
• 1:12
  game, points per game was all pretty solid.
• 1:15
  They forced some turnovers, but we talked about the issues with,
• 1:18
  you know, second-half late in games that gave up almost 100
• 1:21
  points and third quarter of games last season, including 43
• 1:25
  in the last five minutes of games.
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  And we saw it just, you know, we we talked about, you know, how
• 1:30
  much of that was strength and conditioning.
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  Again, we can we can debate that all day.
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  But talk about the defense. You know, Sam Sicus comes in
• 1:41
  first year coordinator. We talked about what, what is
• 1:45
  most critical for the Stevens unit this season between
• 1:49
  halftime adjustments and closing games, talking about, you know,
• 1:52
  coaching, you know, S&C, whatever it may be.
• 1:56
  What, what do you think is most critical for the Stevens to kind
• 1:59
  of get rid of those those late game woes that we kind of saw
• 2:02
  last season? Again, we we know there's talent
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  there, but how do they fully, you know, implement that talent
• 2:08
  for for the entirety of a 60 minute game, which they just
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  didn't do last season? Go ahead, Dwight.
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  Go ahead. Hold on.
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  Say that last part again. My, my, my reception.
• 2:20
  No, no, seriously, I'm not. What was the question?
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  Because my thing. Yeah, yeah.
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  So, so we're just talking about what what's what's critical
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  between halftime adjustments on defense and and closing out
• 2:30
  games? What what's kind of the the
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  secret formula Tech needs or or a way they can improve from last
• 2:35
  season when it comes to being being efficient in the
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  second-half? This is a great question.
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  It is again another simple solution with a simple answer
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  you have for defense. You have to adjust much quicker.
• 2:48
  I'm going to give you a great example.
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  In the Miami game they made, that was probably Cam Cam Ward's
• 2:54
  worst game last season. He had, I believe, two or three
• 2:58
  picks. He had two, but two.
• 3:02
  He had, he had two, right? He had the one that should have
• 3:04
  been a pick 6, but dude didn't make it all the way to the end
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  zone. But in that game, I kept saying
• 3:11
  please put a spy on Cam Ward. We didn't have a spy on him.
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  So there was, you know, you knew what it could do.
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  Late in the game, they put Caleb Woodson on him.
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  He was spying. I'm not going to put the inside
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  information I know out there because I know some players on
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  the team and I, I look, the truth of the matter is you have
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  to we have to make quicker adjustments on on defense.
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  There was many times I'm going to give you another one.
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  This was a very, very bad example of lack of adjustments
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  and a very bad memory. Rutgers ran the same fake.
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  Hand off roll out. The entire game and we never
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  adjusted. And you know what we paid for
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  those sins because several games throughout the season teams read
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  that on critical situations. I'm like, can we please for love
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  of Blacksburg Hokeystone make an adjustment?
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  It is listen, everyone knows y'all all laughing.
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  It was that gun. It was the clap snap, get it,
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  fake it, roll out. That is a nine you on Saturday
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  morning Dumfries field play where you see 9 year olds
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  running that little. I ran a flag football said like
• 4:33
  and you get it, you fake it, you drag a guy and you and it was
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  like again. So Shelton, the bottom line is
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  quicker adjustments. Everybody talks about Oh my God,
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  Bud was the goat. Bud was the goat.
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  Yes, he was, but I remember when Tech beat North Carolina and
• 4:49
  North Carolina when Tyra was there, big match up in ACC was,
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  you know, back when there was divisions, Tech went down there
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  and won 26 to 13 or 2629 and 10, something like that.
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  And it sold out. Crowd and mostly Tech fans and
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  Bud Forrest after the game said he credited Tory and Gray for
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  the adjustments he made with Eddie Whitley and the safety
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  like so he knew Carolina gave them a new wrinkle.
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  Let let me take you back to last season in six to eight of the
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  post game pressers. How many times did we hear they
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  did some things we didn't see on tape.
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  Everyone does things we don't see on tape, especially after we
• 5:30
  see. On tape, that's everybody
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  saying. Again, raise your hand if you're
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  watching this and you played or you watched a game where the
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  players were miked up. I know this the first two
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  series, you you're feeling yourself.
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  And the coach says, hey, hey, hey, he grabs that board.
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  Hey, what are you seeing out there?
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  Tell me what they doing. What are they doing out there?
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  You know? So when the hell did that
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  happen? Because to me, the tight end
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  dragging Shelton, it was again and you're going against a dual
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  threat quarterback and you know it was.
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  It was a coordinator. Dwight didn't even want to take
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  direction from Bud Foster, didn't even want to help from
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  Bud Foster. So you got a defensive
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  coordinator that don't want to get help from Bud Foster.
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  You're not going to ask a player what he sees.
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  He just says I know what I'm doing and everybody should be OK
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  with what I'm doing. That's why he gone.
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  I mean, we got to get, I think sometimes like coordinators can
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  get in that we do, we do mindset.
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  And like, like you said, Dwight, like adjustments are going to be
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  the most important part of more quickly adapting to what the
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  game plan of the other team is. Because we had a lot of a lot of
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  times, like you, like you pointed out, you Rutgers was a
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  big one. We just, we look like we weren't
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  prepared and we it's not that we weren't prepared.
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  It's that the coordinator has to, like you said, get them on
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  the sideline, talk them through this and say, Hey, what are they
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  doing out there? What are you seeing?
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  What are they coming out in what, what's the formations that
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  are coming out inconsistently? What are these guys doing?
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  How are they blocking this up? And at some point you got to,
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  you got to get together with the team and make some adjustments
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  because. I'm going to say this, Brian,
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  I'm going to say this and I hate to be because if I'm getting mad
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  when I think about this guy, but I, I've been dumb and started
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  looking at at looking at games from last year.
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  You know how YouTube has the, the, what do you call them
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  condensed games? I went back and started looking
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  at them. I'm going to stop doing it
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  because I'm going to get mad. But listen.
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  Go watch the whole one, it'll really make you mad.
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  So people who play sports understand this, or even if you
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  watch sports, you should understand this.
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  Defense isn't always about defense.
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  Defense has some things in there that's kind of like offense,
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  just because we call it defense, that's what it is.
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  But when you talk about attacking defense, that's not
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  sitting back waiting to see what the person can do.
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  Like if you look at a good defender like a, it's very hard
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  for a defender to stop a offense.
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  Like somebody who plays offense on Michael Jordan, it's hard for
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  him to stop him because he's got the ball.
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  He knows what he's doing, right? You have to be really good at
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  attacking on defense to have a good, good defense.
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  And I'm not saying that we had a great defense, but it was always
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  like we was playing defense. We were sliding, oh, let's see
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  what they're going to do. You have to have a game plan.
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  You have to have a game plan to go attack the other team.
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  We didn't have anything where we attacked the other team after
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  halftime. We didn't have any adjustments
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  that we made to go attack. Your plan when you get people on
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  the heels and you didn't go and attack, what are we doing?
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  You're playing Syracuse and then you putting this guy on a
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  receiver that ain't caught a pass all year and he catches 2
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  touchdowns on you and has his his Super Bowl game.
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  Take him out, let him go to LSU, put somebody else in.
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  Let's see what somebody can do. I don't know man, I'm just
• 9:06
  saying. 100 points. Listen, I found that stat, but I
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  found the 100 points, 100 points in the third quarter last year,
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  100. 100 points. Third quarter, that's just
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  regular season and y'all think there were a few games?
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  Stanford, UVA couple games. We didn't give up shit in the
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  third quarter. Think about that.
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  They were like 3-4 games. We gave up nothing.
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  So you're talking about giving up multiple scores in one
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  quarter Completely flips the game?
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  Yeah, I just, I just I, I, I, you know, again, I just feel
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  like, man, you know, I said this on Tally's Twitter Space post
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  game one time and I saw flashes of it.
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  The the most I saw it was the Boston College and I saw
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  throughout the Miami game where going into the fourth quarter
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  when they went to commercial, the players met in the middle of
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  the field and they were about to fight.
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  And, and to me, you know, if you, this is going to make you
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  uncomfortable for those watching or when you re air this and post
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  this again, I'm saying this for my football heads, man.
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  In football, you got to go to a dog place.
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  I'm a teddy bear. I'm a father, man, You know, I,
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  I got 3 kids, you know what I'm saying?
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  But when I, when I played, man, it was personal.
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  Like it you got to, you got to be nasty.
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  I feel like when you saw Tech against Miami, when they were
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  mocking Miami, when Miami kept doing that thing like this and
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  we were talking to the sideline, I was like, this looks like a
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  Virginia Tech type of team. People don't remember.
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  But again, die hard fans do. There was controversy about us
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  joining the ACC in 2004 because the ACC, believe it or not,
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  despite Clemson and those guys, was a soft conference.
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  But G and Tech hat was known for having a brand where they would
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  come into your stadium, they would take your turf and put it
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  in the lunch pail. They would.
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  They would talk shit, grab their crotch, talk to crash the
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  coaches. Beat your, beat your ass that.
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  Was not acceptable in the, you know, shirt and tie ACC crowd
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  because a lot of those fan bases were very well.
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  We don't do that except for Clemson and Florida State, which
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  is why they dominated that conference for a while, for
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  years. So you look at Virginia Tech,
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  when they came in the first few years, they were 21 and one on
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  the road in the ACC. That's the actual stat.
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  Look it up. They were 21 and one on the
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  road. So they would go in, the fans
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  would take over your stadium, the players would take over your
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  field. When I watched this last year on
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  defense, and this is not a scheme thing.
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  This is not should we wear orange or Almaroon.
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  This is more so understanding the attitude and moxie you
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  should play with. I'm going to tell you another
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  game. You saw it for the first half,
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  the Clemson game, Virginia Tech's defense was in their face
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  and they will turn them over sacking them.
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  Clemson couldn't do anything, but to Dabo and his staff's
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  credit, in the second-half, they adjusted offense also wet the
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  bed and didn't help the They only lost that game. 2414, Yeah.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 2414 so that means your defense gave you
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  enough to win 24 points. In today's climate of college
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  football, it's not a lot of points.
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  So you know, Curtis, just a great question.
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  It's a great topic, man, because at the end of the day, man, it's
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  when I look at defense, I'm not trying to go back because you
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  can't really hit people like you used to or targeted, but I just
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  feel like you can. Hit people you can hit.
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  People, you can play with the attitude, attitude, but.
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  Attitude. That's important.
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  Yeah, that that's true. I'm with you, Brian, and and and
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  I'm with you, Victoria. But my thing is that we were a
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  poor tackling football team last year.
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  We we had a lot of missed tackles and poor tackling.
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  You turn around and like I said, you just weren't physically
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  strong and somebody like there weren't times when we hit people
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  that they went backwards and you brought that out to me say, hey,
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  look, watch, watch us hit this guy.
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  And they don't go backwards like that.
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  That's the difference when you're physically stronger than
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  them to go but make plays like that.
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  And we didn't do that. So let's go back to the ones we
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  were talking about. You're up 20.
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  You're I'm in New York. My wife damn near passed out
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  walking to that, to that, to the stadium, right, because it was
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  such a long walk. You're up 24 to 7 right with 7
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  minutes and 37 seconds left in the third quarter and you let a
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  guy who had not had a pass all damn year have a career game on
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  you. Do any of y'all know who's
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  Skinner of the skin? The wide receiver of
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  Vanderbilt's last name was Skinner.
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  You know. Did any of y'all know his name
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  before that? Before that Saturday, right?
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  You know, you know when Steve Smith did his breakdown, You
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  know which game they showed the our game.
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  Our game. Game OK, give me that right.
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  You want to know the kid that Duke had a had a record quarter,
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  a record quarter, right? He turns around right?
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  Dude don't even get drafted right But guess what smoked it.
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  Guys listen, it got to the point man where it the younger guys
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  need to be playing and like y'all said, if a guy can't turn
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  around, he's not going to make a play or he go elsewhere and
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  that's fine, go wherever you got to go.
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  But you turn around, you shouldn't go ahead and get folks
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  off the field so you can go make plays, because those are games
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  you should have won. That's right, You should have
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  beat Syracuse. You should have.
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  You should have beat Baby, right?
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  You could have beat Duke. Man, I didn't even get a chance
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  to crack a beer before they threw a bomb on our ass against
• 14:45
  Duke. I got to the stadium, wouldn't
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  go get a beer. I turned around.
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  We. Down 79.
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  Chris, let me ask you a question.
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  Go ahead. We were at the Duke game and
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  this is, this is I was actually at my son's basketball
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  tournament when he was prepping. We were up and I watched the
• 15:00
  game on my phone. We were in, we were in
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  Connecticut or New York. We were in New York or
• 15:05
  Connecticut, right? And here's the thing, when you
• 15:09
  look at Duke, I'm asking you this question because you saw
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  the it's a couple of questions. Did they fear Virginia Tech and
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  that's AB? Did they also going to that game
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  believe they were going to win based off what you saw?
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  Listen man, if you turn around the first playoff scrimmage, you
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  go ahead and drop, throw a damn 99-A9 route to a guy.
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  You don't. You ain't afraid of them.
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  That's my point. That was.
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  The That was the very dude, Dwight.
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  We turned around, we did. We ran 5 plays.
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  I went to the stand, ordered a beer.
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  I couldn't even crack it and that dude threw A-7890 yard.
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  Bomb on it. So again, so again, just really
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  quickly, because I know Curtis, you got to move us on, but I'm
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  just saying. Well, it's about the second
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  game. OK, scheme to scheme.
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  What I'm saying is. Even in the.
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  Notre Dame recent era Duke Duke, Duke always went into the
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  Virginia Tech game is like, OK, this is going to be a tough one.
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  We got to tighten our chin straps.
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  I remember watching that game and I remember they were
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  laughing at us when they were up and I'm like, yo, we have really
• 16:20
  hit near rock bottom when Duke and I'm not talking bad about
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  Duke football. I think the quarterback shot a
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  bird to the quarter, yeah. Yeah, dude, the dude, the dude
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  had, he had like 100 and the dude had damn near 200 yards in
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  the 1st and a quarter. Dude, he had three touchdowns,
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  200 yards. He was like, yeah, it was crazy.
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  They just felt that they could get vertical on those guys and
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  go from there. Now, I can understand love and
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  fell on one, but you can't fall. You're a Division One player.
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  You can't fall in a situation like that.
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  But the safety play was the safety play was minimal bad
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  angles. It was it was so it was so
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  egregious that some guys just didn't belong out there playing.
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  And because they had because you had younger guys in the
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  background that you were like, Hey, we don't know we're going
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  to play them or we going to do this and move this guy.
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  Listen, I'm I'm all for everybody making as much money
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  as they possibly can. Just don't do it on my watch and
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  lose. No damn football game,
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  especially when I can't crack my beer yet.
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  Stop somebody. There's no possible way.
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  You don't even know who that dude is.
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  I know Pablo Baccario play basketball.
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  I have no clue who that wide receiver is because his ass
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  didn't get drafted, but he had a career game on our ass.
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  Yeah, he did. Speaking, Speaking of secondary,
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  I think Brian has something going with that ad about that.
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  Yeah. I mean, you know, we saw a lot
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  of turnover to secondary. Some of it's probably a good
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  thing we had two guys go out the door in the portal.
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  I know we kind of hit it around a couple of those guys both in
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  the tackling and getting getting some busted coverage, some blown
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  coverage there with with Mosa Mansoor, but a lot of
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  interception production went out the door too.
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  It looks like we had 11 last year and only Dante with 1 is
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  coming back on that team. A lot of about the new portal
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  guys, especially in the safety room, how we feeling about these
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  new guys and what Cephkis can do with some of those three safety
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  looks and some of those more exotic pressures that he can get
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  from from from those different levels in this defense.
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  I'll let Chris kick this off. Yeah, go ahead, Say Chris, go
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  ahead. Chris I I I love I love what you
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  know, I got to get a nickname for coach C kids.
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  I don't know Sam. I am.
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  I don't know what it is, but I just got to get it because the
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  dude loves football. But I just think you're going to
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  put guys on the field that can go get after the ball.
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  IBM he you know, he wants to gather.
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  Dante's got to show that what he can be able to do and I know he
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  wants to improve. I think your safety player is
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  going to be so much more improved with Quinn Reddish
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  being to the point of having a year full in the system and
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  filling comfortable with it. And you're just going to have
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  guys who who really attack the football.
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  The one thing Dorian was great at, Dorian was great at coverage
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  and and he got better as the year went along.
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  But we're picking off passes, whereas Monsoon was going to
• 19:05
  gamble and and try to make plays and things of that nature.
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  But I just think I think your secondary play is going to just
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  be so much it's going to be exotic and because we're going
• 19:15
  to get into our prediction and people haven't seen it and and
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  and Sam is going to throw different things at people and
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  we don't go against a lot of great passes this year.
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  So I think it's going to work to our benefit, to be honest with
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  you. I think the secondary is going
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  to be I think the secondary is going to it's going to have a
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  couple of bumps and bruises. Like we don't have a flat out
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  Blazers, you know, guys who can just flat out run.
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  But I think with the different looks they're going to give us,
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  it's going to give us time to get home and cause guys to make
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  error throws and things of that nature.
• 19:43
  Dwight, before you jump in here, I'm going to ask, ask Chris.
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  I'm going to give you one name. You tell me what you think about
• 19:48
  this guy, JoJo Krim. Loving, long, lean, athletic.
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  He's he's, he is, he is everything you want in today's
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  corner. He's going to be physical.
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  He want, he, he has a nose. He wants the football.
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  Like when the football's in the air, it's like, it's my
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  football. And that's the difference that
• 20:09
  that is the difference. What I think with the
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  cornerback, with the cornerbacks we have now, you know our best.
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  Our best corner won't play a snap this year, in my opinion.
• 20:17
  The guy who was not going to play it and I don't think, and
• 20:20
  you know, with Josh Clark, with Josh Clark going out, I think he
• 20:22
  was going to having a breakout year.
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  And you know, Josh is, Josh is just an athlete, man.
• 20:28
  Yeah, I, I loved what I saw from him kind of as the season was
• 20:31
  wrapping up there. So disappointed that, you know,
• 20:33
  injury got got to him there and he we're not going to see him
• 20:36
  this year. But Dwight, what you got on this
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  one? Chris Conner stole my answer.
• 20:40
  What I was going to say, I I like, I like the schemes we're
• 20:43
  going to be running from the secondary.
• 20:45
  I feel like defensively, I feel like tech's going to be good
• 20:49
  this year overall, because I think even last year they show
• 20:52
  flashes. I'm I think the biggest thing
• 20:54
  for me is who takes on that role that APR had.
• 21:00
  Like, I feel like, you know, even though we won six games and
• 21:05
  probably should have won nine last year, I feel like he's one
• 21:08
  of those guys that showed up every week.
• 21:10
  I mean, he was actually playing out of position because, you
• 21:14
  know, looking back at, you know, not even when I played, but just
• 21:16
  looking at like his position at Tech, he's a, he played on the
• 21:20
  outside, but he's really a linebacker that was rushing A
• 21:23
  passer. He's not ADN, which is why
• 21:26
  sometimes you saw him struggle sometimes against run fits
• 21:29
  because you know, he's he he's athletic and he got off the ball
• 21:33
  quickly. His get off was elite, but you
• 21:36
  got to be able to play in space as well as be able to stop the
• 21:41
  run. But he's going to make himself
• 21:43
  some good money if he if he, you know, gets in the right
• 21:46
  situation. But Virginia Tech right now,
• 21:48
  back to your question B, at the end of the day, man, like I like
• 21:52
  what we're going to. I think defensively, look,
• 21:55
  you're going to steal someone, make me put my stuff out there
• 21:58
  before I'm ready to. But I'll say this.
• 22:00
  I feel like that is the difference in how Tech's going
• 22:03
  to beat South Carolina. A lot of times people talk about
• 22:06
  offense, but again this is no secret to you for but defense is
• 22:12
  always in college football the first three weeks ahead of the
• 22:15
  offense. Always, always.
• 22:18
  I feel like that is going to be text differential if they can
• 22:22
  win that game. I like schemes that they're
• 22:25
  bringing this year with what they're doing.
• 22:26
  I'd say this safety play has to be good, but they also have to
• 22:32
  be in a situation where I said they got to be able to rush the
• 22:35
  passer without the blitz. One thing that Buck Foster took
• 22:39
  pride in when he had Jason Worlds and Darrell Tapp and all
• 22:43
  those guys, even the Martin brothers and all them.
• 22:45
  When any coordinator on any level, especially college and
• 22:49
  pro, can get pressure on the passer with his front 4 now,
• 22:56
  because what happens is now when you get pressure with your front
• 22:59
  4, you go to the, you go to that chalkboard and you get to your
• 23:02
  iPad. You're like, Oh my God, we are
• 23:05
  about to get real spooky out here and do different things,
• 23:10
  which puts so much pressure on the offensive line.
• 23:13
  But again, my question is who takes on that role?
• 23:16
  APR You know, he he kind of reminded you a lot of Cornell
• 23:20
  Brown, Daryl Tack, Virginia Tech, Jason Worldwam.
• 23:24
  Virginia Tech has a pass rusher. Even going back in the days,
• 23:27
  even though Bruce Smith played in the wide tackle 6, he played
• 23:29
  deep as a tackle. When they have the edge rusher,
• 23:32
  they are so elite on defense. But, but let's play this real
• 23:35
  quick. Real quick, everybody's like
• 23:38
  temperature expectations. You don't get APR 16 half sacks
• 23:41
  last year, but you got JC Price in that room.
• 23:44
  You got JC Price in that room. First of all, your boy, yes,
• 23:49
  yes. Take a look at some of the
• 23:51
  portal guys we brought in. Take a look at the Hitman kid
• 23:54
  from South Florida. And Dwight, I don't know if you
• 23:57
  got a chance yet. You seen the James Youngman
• 23:59
  interview we did a couple weeks ago?
• 24:01
  Yeah, I did. I did.
• 24:02
  You tell me that kid ain't a dog that's gonna go RIP somebody's
• 24:05
  head off. This is my feeling.
• 24:08
  And I'm looking and you look at the pieces.
• 24:10
  APR was great. People's was great.
• 24:12
  But you had Gilliam, who started growing up last year.
• 24:16
  Do y'all think this unit, it might not be an APR?
• 24:19
  Oh, my God. He is the best defensive end in
• 24:21
  the country. Yeah.
• 24:24
  I think this unit as it's built, you start looking at Copeland,
• 24:27
  Gilliam, Ace and Stevens, who look good.
• 24:30
  Come. On law.
• 24:33
  Come on. But this unit just produced
• 24:35
  overall better. Maybe not as many what you said
• 24:38
  about APR. He struggled at times when he
• 24:40
  got rain at. Yeah.
• 24:42
  So ho ho to answer your question, that's why I said what
• 24:44
  I say. I feel like defense defensively,
• 24:47
  that's going to be your story in a few weeks against South
• 24:49
  Carolina down in Atlanta. Because the reason why I'm
• 24:52
  saying that is because of JC Price and his scheme.
• 24:55
  And here's the thing, when I say who's going to the next APR, I'm
• 24:59
  saying more so because I always feel like a pass rusher and tech
• 25:02
  defense leads the way and then you can feed off that.
• 25:05
  That's why I named some of the guys that, you know, like I said
• 25:07
  with Cornell and those guys. But even though Fuga was a fan
• 25:11
  favorite, that's my brother. He's from up here in Northern
• 25:14
  Virginia. Fuga, you know, he would run
• 25:19
  stop, but he didn't get that pass rush up the middle a lot.
• 25:23
  So I feel like the guys you just named is Washington Porter,
• 25:25
  first of all, JC Price track record with him, even going back
• 25:31
  to when he coached at JMU and other schools at Marshall, he
• 25:34
  has always given teams in Tech, including Virginia Tech fix that
• 25:39
  three time, that three overtime game against Marshall, the
• 25:42
  defensive line coach was and Marshall was JC Price.
• 25:46
  So I feel very good. I, I don't know, I'm maybe I'm a
• 25:49
  little bit overconfident, which is rare for me, but I, I like
• 25:52
  our defensive scheme and what he'll be able to do with the D
• 25:55
  line. I just feel like, again, the
• 25:58
  bigger question is linebacker play with Lawrence.
• 26:01
  What's the kid that's been there forever?
• 26:02
  He's real long, the 65 linebacker, is he still?
• 26:05
  Here you talking about you talking about Burgos.
• 26:08
  Yeah, no, no, Lawson. Yeah.
• 26:13
  He's gone. So again, who are who are the I
• 26:16
  don't have the roster for who the linebacker?
• 26:18
  I was. Going to say so yeah, that's the
• 26:22
  next, next, next point that we was going to anyway.
• 26:24
  So great Segway, Dwight mainly talking about who's running the
• 26:28
  the linebacker room. You know, you got X running out
• 26:31
  of linebacker room now there you go.
• 26:33
  You talk about Caleb Woodson, Jaden Keller coming back.
• 26:38
  So we kind of know what those guys are.
• 26:40
  Also, Spencer's going to be there, picked up a couple guys
• 26:44
  out of the portal. So kind of what do we feel that
• 26:48
  room is going to look like with the new pieces and and the
• 26:52
  pieces that we know that are already there.
• 26:54
  So Chris, now you could kind of. Hey, hold on.
• 26:56
  Before Chris, before Chris answered that, can you just say
• 26:59
  it one more time because it sounds so good to my ears.
• 27:03
  You said who's? Who's the legend The the legend
• 27:07
  The the. X-Men Xavier DB.
• 27:12
  Yeah, boy, Chris, I just want him.
• 27:13
  I wanted the fans to hit that again because that's going to
• 27:16
  be, it's going to be just like when I said JC and everybody's
• 27:19
  like JC, like all right. And then now they we love you
• 27:22
  JC. Yeah, I'm just going to pick you
• 27:28
  back on. So with Xavier DB being there, I
• 27:31
  just think that just is the pedigree and the ability for him
• 27:36
  to coach. He is a young coach, but I think
• 27:38
  he's an excellent coach. But I think what's going to
• 27:40
  happen with this where's we would just go piggyback off the
• 27:43
  defensive line when we knew it was going to be 16 from APR and
• 27:47
  then you're going to get 4 to 5 with the pressure with people's
• 27:50
  upfront. I think next year it comes, you
• 27:52
  don't know where it's coming from because I think I think
• 27:54
  Junk is going to do it. Ben Bill's really good.
• 27:57
  I think there's I think the the surprise guy of the year is
• 28:00
  going to be Kamari Copeland. I do not think they have any
• 28:03
  idea how to block him. And that kid is crazy.
• 28:06
  So you got Gillum, you got him. You got any laws with the
• 28:08
  transition? So I think it's going to be
• 28:10
  able. You win football games by
• 28:12
  defending. What A&B gap block, A&B gap, run
• 28:17
  through A&B gap. That's how you win football
• 28:19
  games. So if you can't, if you turn
• 28:21
  around and you can get pressure up front on all of these mobile
• 28:24
  quarterbacks, you got sellers, Pavia King.
• 28:28
  If you can make him worry about it coming in his lap, then you
• 28:31
  can rally and get to that and get get to them.
• 28:34
  So I believe that's going to be fine.
• 28:35
  I think your linebacker room is going to be outstanding.
• 28:38
  I think you're going to be able to turn around and kind of
• 28:40
  unleash Burgos a certain kind of way.
• 28:43
  I think with Spencer, when you have when you got Spencer,
• 28:48
  you've got the Santiago kid, you got short kid, but Caleb Woodson
• 28:52
  is the key to this defense. I think Caleb Woodson is going
• 28:56
  to have a breakout season in the middle of that defense.
• 28:59
  His smarts, his his football IQ, everything that they pour into
• 29:04
  him. The dude is built like a brick
• 29:06
  shit house. Excuse my French, but that's the
• 29:08
  kid is the kid is cut up like dope money and I think he's just
• 29:11
  going to have a great year in in this in this in this defense.
• 29:15
  And I'll just add I've been driving the bandwagon.
• 29:19
  I got rims on my bandwagon. I got XM radio over there.
• 29:22
  I got I got a couple of things in the glove compartment the the
• 29:27
  the bandwagon I've been driving for Kayla Woodson is this to me.
• 29:31
  I remember Talley said this on the Twitter space.
• 29:34
  He did after a win. And and you know, we all text
• 29:37
  and stuff and he was just like AO Vic.
• 29:40
  He epitomizes what you talk about the Virginia Tech brand of
• 29:44
  deep. He he arrives with the ball with
• 29:46
  bad intentions. And there was some growing
• 29:48
  things here because he had to learn.
• 29:51
  People don't realize he had to learn the whole new position.
• 29:53
  And he's a tech loyal player because I can say this because
• 29:57
  I'm close to the family. He had a lot of financial
• 30:00
  options. He could have left.
• 30:02
  He has some some nice financial package presented to him.
• 30:06
  He wants to be at Tech and I think, and this is something
• 30:11
  these are one of these things where we all know because we
• 30:14
  we're media and we cover the game and we played it.
• 30:17
  And I'm not saying fans that you know, because they don't have
• 30:19
  that don't know, but there's certain things, you know, that's
• 30:23
  not going to be reported until the 30 for 30 or later on.
• 30:26
  And what I'm referring to in a positive way is Xavier D BS
• 30:30
  impact on Caleb is going to be insane because X is young enough
• 30:36
  and he and and real recognize real kids, young men and young
• 30:40
  women, you know, sports recognize when you're being
• 30:43
  coached by somebody that gets it.
• 30:45
  You know, I I love coaches that can interview with Xavier.
• 30:49
  DVI interviewed his old coach, coach Sexton for my victory life
• 30:53
  podcast and he talked about they had to kind of control him in
• 30:57
  practice. He's one of those guys you see
• 30:58
  and he's smiling. He's a class act.
• 31:01
  And then you see him and I, I miss watching him and, and Vince
• 31:07
  Hall play together. And I feel like you're going to
• 31:10
  see some of those bad intentions.
• 31:12
  You know, again, that's why I'm, I'm standing on business with
• 31:14
  this pick. When it comes to our defense.
• 31:16
  I think the difference for us this year early in the season is
• 31:19
  going to be our defense. Special teams is always
• 31:21
  important, but I think that defense, the linebackers, the D
• 31:24
  line, the scheme we're running is going to fit more of the
• 31:27
  personnel we have versus the previous game.
• 31:29
  Yeah, I'm, I'm with you, Dwight. I think, you know, you talked
• 31:32
  about a little bit earlier, but I think Caleb Woodson is going
• 31:34
  to be that tone setter of that defense.
• 31:38
  And you saw with with X and having somebody that played that
• 31:44
  role for Virginia Tech went on to do bigger things in the NFL
• 31:48
  and now is back here. And I think that's going to be
• 31:51
  big dividends in that linebacker room, especially for Caleb
• 31:54
  Woodson, because I again, I think he's going to be the tone
• 31:56
  setter. And you know, you talk about X
• 32:00
  being, you know, smile and everything, but like every good
• 32:03
  football player has a switch. And when you get on that field
• 32:06
  and you flip that switch and you become a different person.
• 32:09
  Well, and be just just to your point and I remember somebody
• 32:13
  was like, well, you know, you know, Victoria man, you know,
• 32:17
  pride can't hire everybody that used to be at tech.
• 32:19
  I said, listen to me, I'm not saying you have to hire
• 32:22
  everybody that played at tech. What I'm telling you is it's OK
• 32:27
  when Duke does it. Duke's entire staff, basketball
• 32:30
  is all Duke guys. All of them all.
• 32:33
  Of them. UNCUNC, all UNC guys, Miami
• 32:38
  football, mostly Miami guys. I'm saying you're not in a bad
• 32:42
  situation when JC Price, Pearson Prelo and Xavier EB are on your
• 32:48
  staff. These guys get it and they're
• 32:51
  young enough where they can relate to the players and they
• 32:54
  can teach it. And it's like JC Price has the
• 32:57
  coaching pedigree at DB, you know, and everybody made a big
• 33:00
  bill deal about pride not really knowing who Xavier DB was.
• 33:05
  I don't care about that. I was kind of surprised.
• 33:08
  But you know, sometimes coaches answer questions not thinking
• 33:10
  about how fans are going to react.
• 33:12
  But that's not his job to. I think you got to read the
• 33:15
  room, but you also got to understand, man, those guys get
• 33:17
  asked a lot of questions. He might not know Xavier DB the
• 33:21
  way we do. I just feel like, first of all,
• 33:23
  I'm going to say this shit. He's recruiting my nephew.
• 33:26
  My nephew loves the guy. My nephew loves him like Xavier,
• 33:30
  DB. He just understands how to
• 33:32
  relate to players, but he also knows how to play the position.
• 33:35
  And you talk about, again, we talk, always talk about DBU with
• 33:39
  Virginia Tech. It will never really get the
• 33:43
  consideration to be mentioned with the Penn State's, but
• 33:46
  Virginia Tech's linebacker play for decades was elite.
• 33:50
  That was also a position that was also a position that led the
• 33:54
  way when it came to good to great defenses.
• 33:58
  There was the three-year span when Tech was ranked number one,
• 34:01
  number one, and #2 in the nation overall in defense.
• 34:04
  Look at the linebackers they had.
• 34:08
  Absolutely, Absolutely. I don't know why people always
• 34:12
  feel like they got to reinvent the wheel on something.
• 34:14
  Like if your school is good at something, just fall into it.
• 34:17
  Like I feel like Virginia Tech is always going to be a school
• 34:22
  that should have a dual threat quarterback.
• 34:24
  I don't want to say your quarterback has to run every
• 34:26
  play, but I'm just saying Virginia Tech, unless you got
• 34:31
  Trevor Lawrence that wants to go to Virginia.
• 34:33
  Tech, I said if a gun could run. Like who?
• 34:37
  Yeah, but I'm just saying like, go do the stuff that has made
• 34:43
  you be successful. Like why are we trying to
• 34:46
  reinvent the wheel and go get 510 linebackers?
• 34:50
  Like you got to go get a linebacker that looks like AACC,
• 34:53
  Virginia Tech linebacker, you know what I'm saying?
• 34:56
  Like we go so far away from that and it's like I can understand
• 35:00
  if we was maybe in like California.
• 35:01
  No disrespect to them. I know they eat salads and stuff
• 35:04
  over there. Y'all in Virginia?
• 35:06
  You in Virginia, you should be able to open the door and find a
• 35:10
  lineman, somebody who can block a linebacker, somebody who like
• 35:13
  pushed. California got some Samoan
• 35:15
  linebackers there, so they. Understanding why are we going
• 35:19
  to, why are we going to Germany to get a a tackle in?
• 35:25
  Virginia. Like.
• 35:27
  I mean, I'm in Virginia a handful of times.
• 35:30
  Ohh. Forgot about that when somebody.
• 35:33
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no.
• 35:35
  Well Hans was in Virginia though.
• 35:37
  He came to. He's talking about the kid that
• 35:39
  they literally was playing in Germany about 6-7 years ago.
• 35:44
  Came to Virginia when he was like 13.
• 35:46
  Oh, OK. OK, OK, OK.
• 35:48
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know what you're.
• 35:49
  Saying, man, I know what you're talking about, Canada and
• 35:51
  Georgia, I'm in Canada and Yugoslavia for when you are in
• 35:56
  Virginia. Like, I've came to Virginia
• 35:59
  plenty of times and if somebody's bigger than me and
• 36:02
  they 16 years old, I probably would see if they can block
• 36:06
  somebody. Hey, but look to your point
• 36:08
  though, you know, and This is why I said this before and this
• 36:11
  is one thing I'm in the DMV, Northern Virginia, DC, Maryland,
• 36:14
  but I still go home. I'm a 757 guy.
• 36:16
  I'm Ava guy eight O 4. And I've said this in many
• 36:20
  Twitter spaces and even on different platforms like this
• 36:22
  you mentioned in your backyard. You look at the kid.
• 36:25
  Damn my man, I'm getting forgetting names, but the kid
• 36:28
  that played the LC Byrd wanted to stay title with him.
• 36:31
  He was a linebacker at Virginia Tech.
• 36:33
  They always joked about how, like, yes, how he never looked
• 36:38
  apart until game day and he was an animal or one of my favorite.
• 36:41
  I always butchered his name. So I called him little Palomalu
• 36:44
  Munawaka Tikatuku from Salem with all the hair, right?
• 36:48
  Yeah. But like, again, it's a guy.
• 36:50
  He looked like a wild animal when he played, but he set the
• 36:53
  tone. Those kind of linebackers, all
• 36:55
  the two quality 2 elite linebackers that really didn't
• 37:00
  check the boxes with all that athleticism at the same time
• 37:04
  they were able to play that position.
• 37:07
  You know what I'm seeing as far as just being able to really
• 37:10
  make that imprint in that mic position, that linebacker
• 37:13
  position Virginia Tech has always had when their defense
• 37:16
  was great, good and great, great corner play, safety play.
• 37:20
  But yeah, I see the name things wrong.
• 37:23
  Like at the end of the day, man, like, yeah, yeah.
• 37:28
  So I mean, the linebacker play to me and DB and those guys,
• 37:31
  like I, I said, I always felt like man, prior you got to have
• 37:36
  your staff, you got to get your guys and and you got to get
• 37:39
  guys, not your boys, but people that really understand Virginia
• 37:44
  Tech football. This is why again, you look at
• 37:47
  guys like I mentioned Duke and Carolina and programs like them.
• 37:50
  I'm not even mocking them right now.
• 37:51
  I'm just saying like those dudes.
• 37:53
  I mean, say what you want about Shire.
• 37:55
  I noticed in the Duke basketball, I'm talking about
• 37:57
  like Final Fours understand what it means to be a hokey or a Blue
• 38:01
  Devil or like we laugh because I know I can have fun with this
• 38:06
  dude. And the people talking about
• 38:08
  back when the coke was pure and all that.
• 38:10
  But when I watched Michael Irvin, when I watched Michael
• 38:13
  Irvin when he when they were playing, when they played Cal,
• 38:16
  that Cal and that game got close.
• 38:18
  He was on the ground humping the ground and begging the defense
• 38:21
  to get a stop and sweating like TD Jakes.
• 38:24
  And I was like, Hey, look, hey, I can relate to Irving because
• 38:31
  y'all don't see me when I'm in this house watching tech, right?
• 38:35
  That is my only team. So to me, my daughter's
• 38:38
  recording me and she's the better not ever released those
• 38:40
  record. When I am, I am, I am when I
• 38:44
  when I watched Tech, I watched the games all the time and two
• 38:47
  Fast 1 fan where I'm like, that's a catch and I'm yelling.
• 38:53
  And then I watched them again as a media guy that covers the game
• 38:57
  and watches and I take notes and look at stuff and trends and
• 38:59
  things. But I'm more Michael Urban when
• 39:02
  it comes. And there's a lot of guys like
• 39:04
  me that played in that university to understand what it
• 39:06
  means to be a hokey and how the defense should be and how the
• 39:09
  offensive line should go. JC, what happened?
• 39:13
  This is my school. I love my school.
• 39:16
  You know, he was emotional. People don't understand that,
• 39:19
  but I think they did after they saw that.
• 39:21
  Like, that guy was able to salvage the season and get us to
• 39:24
  a bowl game, but he understands how to coach, too.
• 39:27
  So I just feel like, yeah, like the defense is going to lead the
• 39:30
  way this year. Defense leading the way.
• 39:32
  All right. Well, we get to the end 2 hours
• 39:35
  37 minutes later. Wow.
• 39:37
  Not I'm not shocked. Ain't nobody in this room
• 39:39
  shocked, no doubt. No doubt.
• 39:42
  But it's only one thing that matters because we talked about
• 39:45
  players, we talked about frustrations with last year, we
• 39:48
  talked about changes, what we can do better.
• 39:50
  One thing that matters, it's wins and it's losses.
• 39:53
  And I'm old. Shelton was nice enough for he
• 39:55
  had a dip off. He gave his prediction, Shelton
• 39:58
  saying 7 and 5, four and four and eight.
• 40:02
  So. Dwight Chris, y'all play rock
• 40:05
  paper scissors, but wins and losses got to make a prediction
• 40:10
  if you're allowed. You want to go first.
• 40:16
  No, you go first because I, I got my answer, but I, I have my
• 40:19
  answer early, but go ahead because I'm, I'm looking at the
• 40:21
  schedule right now. Go ahead, Chris.
• 40:22
  I'm looking at the schedule again.
• 40:24
  The schedule, the schedule I look at like this, I'm going to
• 40:26
  give it to you like this. South Carolina, you win.
• 40:30
  OK, You beat Bandy, right? You beat ODU.
• 40:33
  You beat Wofford. You beat Wake Forest.
• 40:36
  OK, You beat Georgia Tech. OK, you turn around after
• 40:42
  Georgia Tech, you play Cal. You come back and play Cal,
• 40:46
  right, You play Cal. I beat Cal.
• 40:51
  The first game that I that I'm not confident in is Louisville
• 40:55
  because I think Louisville has got a, a monster of a football
• 40:58
  team. I think you beat Louisville.
• 41:00
  You make new memories when you beat Miami in your building,
• 41:04
  right? You go down to Florida State,
• 41:06
  right? Because I don't think they're
• 41:08
  that good this year. And if Castellanos is still
• 41:10
  playing, you beat Florida State and you beat Virginia.
• 41:16
  You're 11 and one right? Everybody shut their ass up,
• 41:21
  right and you get a chance to go play Clemson in Charlotte.
• 41:24
  I'm going to just tell you how confident I am on that.
• 41:27
  I already got my room book for Charlotte already.
• 41:30
  That's how confident I'm on that now.
• 41:34
  Now I'll put you like this so y'all understand how I mean
• 41:37
  about this. I only want to drink bourbon and
• 41:40
  smoke cigars. All right, that's my prediction.
• 41:44
  I'm going to go back down to Charlotte again and we might
• 41:48
  lose the Clemson, but we're going to give him a fair fight.
• 41:50
  The reason I feel that way and I know all Chris's just pie in the
• 41:55
  sky and we got to go prove it. We do.
• 41:58
  But the first six weeks of the season, they have not seen what
• 42:01
  Steve Kiss is going to throw at him.
• 42:03
  They have no clue what we they they're going to throw at them.
• 42:06
  And then that gives us time to jail and be who we are.
• 42:09
  I'm not I'm not afraid of South Carolina at all.
• 42:13
  I've been saying that they are returning that that football
• 42:17
  team that was so great last year that won nine games.
• 42:19
  You got 9 new starters. Dylan Stewart is an absolute
• 42:23
  animal, but I got to block him. Them other cats that they got,
• 42:27
  we some of them cats came from the 757.
• 42:30
  I watched them play and they went great here.
• 42:33
  They just went down to down to South Carolina and got an offer
• 42:36
  because another kid was down there that I sit down there on a
• 42:39
  plane ticket and then all everybody saw and they thought
• 42:42
  they were great. So I don't, I think South
• 42:43
  Carolina's room on defense, I think we're going to have enough
• 42:46
  offense to beat them. I think you go back and you shut
• 42:48
  Pavy up and you go and beat him. I just believe you can go 11 and
• 42:52
  one with this, with this, with this schedule.
• 42:54
  The only game that I am not confident we can win out
• 42:57
  outright is Louisville. Everybody else, let's line it
• 43:00
  up. So that's a great, that's great.
• 43:03
  I I, you know, that's, that's good.
• 43:05
  That's, that's good energy. I'll say this.
• 43:09
  I thought about this question long and hard because I'm doing
• 43:11
  another segment. I'm doing more of a segment on
• 43:13
  Thursday. It's a radio show.
• 43:14
  Do you know about that? With our shout out to our guy
• 43:17
  Rick Watson. Yeah, But like at the end of the
• 43:19
  day, Virginia Tech, I said this last year when everybody said,
• 43:24
  Oh my God, Virginia Tech now we got Miami coming up.
• 43:27
  I said they'll probably beat Miami.
• 43:29
  And everybody was like, yo, what do you smoke?
• 43:31
  I said because Virginia Tech in the new era will show up because
• 43:35
  they recognize the name. It's the inferior for the teams.
• 43:38
  So number, number. And then, you know, bigger than
• 43:41
  that, take the emotional aspect out of it.
• 43:45
  I've been around this game a long time.
• 43:46
  No disrespect to anybody. Sons of Saturday and all these
• 43:49
  other podcasts, you know, Tree of Life, all these other teams
• 43:52
  and podcasts that keep popping up.
• 43:54
  I am the OG of this. I've been around this.
• 43:56
  I helped build this program. I've connected to football
• 44:00
  alumni and kept them connected, You know, kind of been like the
• 44:03
  unofficial ambassador voice of the Hokies for a long time.
• 44:07
  So one thing I'm excited about is the fact that Virginia Tech's
• 44:12
  opening the season against a a very good, recognizable
• 44:15
  opponent, Beamer always said and other coaches said you always
• 44:19
  prepare better when you're playing the team with the name.
• 44:23
  I I remember being dejected when we lost the Sugar Bowl against
• 44:26
  Michigan because I felt like that could have been a great
• 44:30
  win. Was that a great Virginia Tech
• 44:31
  team that was 11 win team that lost twice at Clemson, but
• 44:35
  beating Shoelace in Michigan, that would have been a great win
• 44:38
  for the brand. We fell short a false start on
• 44:41
  the 1 yard line. You never know.
• 44:44
  You know, you win that game with Logan Thomas and David Wilson
• 44:46
  and company, South Carolina. I really feel like as much as I
• 44:52
  love Shane Beamer, he's a close friend of mine.
• 44:54
  I love him. This is a big game for him.
• 44:58
  And sometimes that emotional factor, even though he can
• 45:01
  downplay, it's hard. It's hard, It's a big game.
• 45:03
  And more importantly, how many times has everybody pick one
• 45:07
  team to run through another team?
• 45:09
  Absolutely. Georgia Tech upsets Florida
• 45:12
  State in Dublin, Oregon or Alabama.
• 45:15
  When we used to open up with Alabama, it felt like every in
• 45:17
  the Chick-fil-A kickoff, Virginia Tech was leading or up
• 45:20
  or you know, it was a close game.
• 45:23
  I don't really think Tech is going to be overpowered by South
• 45:28
  Carolina #1 because it's the first game.
• 45:31
  It's it's when you want to play a team.
• 45:33
  When I look. When I look at Virginia Tech
• 45:36
  right now and the schedule, and I'm not saying I don't and I
• 45:39
  never liked this statement. The schedule is favorable and
• 45:43
  you got a lot of win. No, it's not a fuck.
• 45:45
  I'm not saying like I don't believe in favorable because
• 45:47
  some of them are easy getting to do the tough ones.
• 45:50
  I I feel like when I look at the schedule, they're they're solid
• 45:55
  teams to questionable teams in Louisville and Georgia Tech.
• 45:59
  Everyone has athletes, everybody's on scholarship, but
• 46:02
  I see a lot of games that Tech has the opportunity to win.
• 46:07
  Here's the thing, South Carolina, they come out and win
• 46:11
  the game. I see momentum where they can
• 46:14
  win 9 plus games. I really feel that way because a
• 46:17
  win like that can jump start you into a lot of confidence.
• 46:20
  Not because South Carolina are world biggest because of the SEC
• 46:24
  brand. The fact that wins always help
• 46:26
  you get confident. And I also think too, though, if
• 46:30
  they come out and they're flat and they have a game like you
• 46:33
  saw when they played Tennessee in that game, that was the
• 46:36
  largest crowd ever watched a football game.
• 46:39
  I thought the moment was too big.
• 46:41
  They had five turnovers that game.
• 46:42
  That was Fuente's first year. And.
• 46:45
  Wet the bed and I felt like that was a game where they were
• 46:48
  overwhelmed by the moment. Now that team had a lot of
• 46:50
  talent and that team had the Edmonds brothers and Greg
• 46:54
  Strowman and Ricky Wall able to still do something where they
• 46:58
  won the Coastal and they went on to have a great win against
• 47:02
  Arkansas. That's yet to be seen.
• 47:04
  So right now I feel like Tech's going to be in the mix and win 8
• 47:08
  plus games. I feel like if they struggle and
• 47:13
  they and they get under, they come out underwhelming.
• 47:15
  This is a 7 to 6 win team because if you if you start the
• 47:21
  season off, you know my my for the record, my wins total is 8.
• 47:25
  But I'm just the disclaimer. If you start the season off and
• 47:31
  you lose that game against South Carolina and it's closed and
• 47:35
  they pull away and win 27 to 17, then it's like, OK, do you have
• 47:41
  enough leadership in the locker room to overcome that?
• 47:43
  Like Virginia Tech did in O4 when they lost to USC or in 95
• 47:47
  when they lost O and two to start.
• 47:49
  I'm naming teams that recover or Boise State when they they won
• 47:54
  eleven wins. I don't know who the leaders are
• 47:56
  every year when I do these pre game shows on podcast, he would
• 48:00
  talk about we got this guy, the measurables this players this
• 48:03
  and we got this higher. I am always so God takes my last
• 48:07
  breath going to talk about leadership because from whether
• 48:10
  it's the NFL high school pro, even in media podcast and if
• 48:15
  your team is your leaders are good, the showings going to be
• 48:18
  good. I'm hoping KD drones takes with
• 48:21
  a more of a leadership position. I feel like Virginia Tech can
• 48:24
  win eight games, ODU, Vanderbilt, I think UV is going
• 48:29
  to be better, but I still think they got a little bit of a, you
• 48:31
  know, a challenge with the culture down there trying to
• 48:33
  figure it out, you know, but I feel like there's games that
• 48:36
  tech can win. You owe Miami one, but I feel
• 48:40
  like I but I feel like with those games, they'll get up.
• 48:43
  Curtis. I feel like those games tech
• 48:45
  always get up. I just feel like right now Tech,
• 48:49
  if I just say is the 8 win team because I feel like last point,
• 48:53
  I'm going to shut up. That pride understands.
• 48:58
  Coaches know what's being whispered.
• 48:59
  They know that you, it's not about being scared and on a hot
• 49:03
  seat. It's understand that you know,
• 49:04
  you need to really seize this moment.
• 49:06
  You need to lock in and block out all the noise.
• 49:09
  And I feel like Tech can really make something happen.
• 49:12
  They're recruiting well and the energy is good, but you a game,
• 49:16
  a win against South Carolina at 3:30 when everyone's watching,
• 49:22
  with everyone watching and the whispers around Virginia Tech,
• 49:27
  you win that game. And I know I'm not trying to
• 49:29
  make it like a national championship.
• 49:32
  It really changes your perception within seconds.
• 49:34
  It's true within seconds. Every Tech win for all the
• 49:40
  coaches, including Fuente. When they upset my Florida State
• 49:43
  at that time or when they won games, when they when, when
• 49:47
  Fuente was there and they beat Miami on Thursday night and they
• 49:50
  sacked that quarterback from Miami nine times like that, it
• 49:54
  changes perception. He does.
• 49:56
  Within seconds, within seconds, because of the age of social
• 49:59
  media, you beat South Carolina Sunday afternoon, 330 ain't shit
• 50:04
  going on. You win that game and all of a
• 50:07
  sudden, wow, what a win by the Hokies.
• 50:09
  Could they be back and all of a sudden and you lose that game,
• 50:13
  You can still go to a good bowl because I still think I'm going
• 50:16
  to go to a bowl. But I just feel like you miss an
• 50:19
  opportunity. You, you, you have to take them.
• 50:23
  You, you got it. You got to take away the stigma
• 50:25
  of not being beaten up a Power 14A, Power 4 conference team.
• 50:30
  You, you beat the stigma of a, of a close game and you just go
• 50:34
  out and outplay somebody. That's, that's what we missing.
• 50:38
  That's what that's making memories.
• 50:40
  That's the stuff that y'all used to do, bro, I, I was a Carolina
• 50:43
  fan, dude. I used to watch that dude #7
• 50:47
  right? Get wicked.
• 50:49
  I was like, I don't even know what Virginia Tech was, but you,
• 50:53
  that guy, go out there and just go win football games or damn,
• 50:57
  they win football game. We've had so many close call.
• 50:59
  I've learned so many close call losses here in the last two
• 51:03
  years. It made my stomach turn.
• 51:05
  You go and beat South Carolina. One quick point about my my
• 51:09
  cousin and what he did. He was surrounded in both years,
• 51:14
  especially that first year, by Corey Moore, Carl Bradley and
• 51:18
  Engelberger and Company and Jamelle Smith.
• 51:22
  Andre. The reason why, the reason why I
• 51:25
  brought up the fact that I'm the OG of this shit and I'm not
• 51:27
  taking shots to anybody else on any of the podcast is because I
• 51:30
  helped build the program and I know I know what it takes when
• 51:34
  it comes to, you know, getting your team in position to make a
• 51:38
  run. I've been there for the hard
• 51:40
  times. I've covered the program as a
• 51:42
  columnist. I've been in the locker room.
• 51:44
  I know those players. I know what it takes.
• 51:46
  And again, I feel like Virginia Tech desperately needs to win
• 51:50
  this game because I'm going to tell you something.
• 51:52
  I know this will be true and I have not talked to Shane, but I
• 51:55
  know this will be true regardless of who they lost.
• 51:59
  Shane is going to take this game personal and he's going to
• 52:02
  unleash every opportunity fake field and if they get up he's
• 52:07
  going to run it up because he was never even called to even
• 52:12
  interview for the job. Hey, I got no, I got Hey,
• 52:15
  listen, I got no problem with with with little dude wanting to
• 52:19
  wind it up. I understand that.
• 52:22
  I ain't never liked the fact in in that situation with him is
• 52:26
  that he talks so down and dirty about this program and I didn't
• 52:31
  know anything about him not getting the opportunity.
• 52:33
  I'm sorry. Well, I mean.
• 52:34
  You know, the thing the thing about is I was recruited by Tom
• 52:37
  O'Brien when he was at UVS. He's a coordinator.
• 52:39
  He talked down on the program and he went to Boston College
• 52:43
  and he continued. I know for you that's a personal
• 52:45
  matter. Shane love, listen, listen,
• 52:48
  listen, listen. I know this this might do.
• 52:49
  He got victory life here. Shane loves Shane loves Virginia
• 52:53
  Tech, but right now he ain't supposed to.
• 52:55
  And listen, I still take it personal.
• 52:58
  You got to understand. So they whether whether he might
• 53:00
  have gotten called, but I text him, he said I haven't heard
• 53:03
  anything. Brendan Hill and Kevin Jones or
• 53:06
  Deandra Hall. I think it was Brendan Hill and
• 53:07
  Kevin Jones did a video, might have been Diazo and Brennan Hill
• 53:11
  about why Tech should be hired. Now I'm going to tell you about
• 53:13
  the energy Shane brings. The AD got Shane brought back in
• 53:18
  because the players at South Carolina, former players, alumni
• 53:22
  had a Zoom meeting with the AD to say you better hire Shane.
• 53:27
  So when he coached, when Frank, his dad had to throw surgery,
• 53:31
  the energy around that program on that Music City Ball, when
• 53:34
  Cincinnati was a nine win team and we were six and six, Tech
• 53:38
  came out and bought Greg Stroman stole the show.
• 53:41
  But my point being, Shane had that energy.
• 53:44
  What I'm saying is this shit right here, what I'm doing, you
• 53:48
  know, you can't be doing this. You got to throw that pin down
• 53:52
  and you're going to have to do some fake filled whatever it
• 53:54
  takes to win that game. It's got to be.
• 53:57
  Personal you got to get a signature.
• 53:59
  You got to get a signature win. Remember I said there's two?
• 54:03
  Remember, I said this, There's two things he needs as a head
• 54:06
  coach, a Mount Rushmore recruit and signature witness.
• 54:10
  And because all this, hey, man, gosh darn it, we're going to a
• 54:14
  bowl game again. Those boys fought hard.
• 54:16
  Don't know about this is for the first time I've been I've been
• 54:19
  around this program blowing anybody covering that in.
• 54:23
  The podcast. Nobody.
• 54:25
  Sons, dads of Saturday, nobody has been around this program as
• 54:29
  long as me. And I'm telling you right now,
• 54:31
  when it comes to Virginia Tech football, you got to seize the
• 54:35
  moment. We, this has been the lowest
• 54:38
  amount of energy around this program going into a season in
• 54:42
  the history since 28. And one, there is no momentum
• 54:46
  and energy. None.
• 54:47
  Nobody was talking about Tech this year.
• 54:50
  We're not even at like, hey, watch out for the Hokies.
• 54:52
  I don't mean to go too long, Curtis, I'm sorry, but I'm just
• 54:56
  telling you this is important. Not just to me, but there are a
• 55:00
  lot of people who feel the way I do who have spent a lot of money
• 55:04
  and time, who kept buying into the hype and buying T-shirts and
• 55:08
  flights and tickets when shit was delinquent in the payment
• 55:11
  section of their bills. And they still drove to cities
• 55:15
  and things like that. You can play with people as
• 55:18
  like, hey, you going to Atlanta? I'm like, no, I'm not number
• 55:21
  one. I can't afford it right now.
• 55:22
  I could if I wanted to, but like to me, I'm I'm going to be
• 55:26
  watching the game like this. I can y'all.
• 55:27
  I'm going to be just like this. Better stop man.
• 55:32
  Better stop bro. No, I'm.
• 55:34
  Chris, make him on, Make him unfold the arms, is what he's
• 55:37
  saying. Maybe.
• 55:39
  Unfold the. Arms take him unfold.
• 55:40
  Chris, Chris, you can't. You can't listen.
• 55:42
  I know. I was texting Tally and I saw
• 55:45
  the fans on TV. Tally called.
• 55:48
  We talked that Monday, He said. Virginia Tech fans had taken
• 55:53
  over Tennessee. It was so many I, I know, but I,
• 55:58
  I know, but I'm telling you, I wasn't right.
• 56:00
  And then what happened? We wet the bed up 2720 all the
• 56:06
  talk, all the commercials, all the You can no longer do that
• 56:10
  for you can't do. That you can't.
• 56:14
  You got to win you. Got to win, That's the most
• 56:17
  important. Thing when we look at this
• 56:18
  schedule, so we look at we look at the schedule we we already
• 56:20
  know right out the gate we need to get a signature win.
• 56:24
  But what I want to see too and what we haven't done in the
• 56:27
  Brent Pryor and what we haven't done really recently is have a
• 56:31
  good run throughout of conference and through
• 56:33
  September, right. We we have played below average
• 56:37
  football for the majority of September during the Pryor
• 56:40
  regime. Absolutely.
• 56:41
  I don't I don't think that's an understatement.
• 56:43
  I thought we have not played very well out of conference.
• 56:46
  Even when we got wins, they weren't pretty wins.
• 56:49
  They weren't good wins. Even against teams that you, you
• 56:51
  know, you call them easy wins. You know, out of conference, you
• 56:54
  know, the Marshalls, the ODUS, whatever, they weren't all
• 56:57
  pretty wins. We got to go out there and we
• 57:00
  got to set the tone against South Carolina, get that
• 57:02
  signature win, but we got to keep that run going through the
• 57:05
  through September. I want to get the NC State of
• 57:08
  September 27th with a 0 in that loss column.
• 57:12
  Absolutely. That's what we need to do.
• 57:14
  And then start ACC playoffs strong with the win there.
• 57:16
  If you get through September and you don't have a blemish on that
• 57:19
  record, that's when you start thinking, all right, well, baby,
• 57:22
  maybe this is the Virginia Tech that we want them to be.
• 57:25
  This is the Virginia Tech we haven't seen in a while, but
• 57:28
  that's what I want to see. Go ahead.
• 57:31
  Go ahead, Tyler, Go ahead. Just just as simple as it can
• 57:35
  get. If you win that first game, you
• 57:37
  win 8. If you lose that first game,
• 57:39
  you're going to win six. That's where I met with
• 57:41
  Virginia. That's tally right there.
• 57:43
  That's kind of what I said, right?
• 57:44
  Well. I think, but I think what you
• 57:48
  said also too, Dwight, is if you get that signature you bring to
• 57:54
  the national spotlight people are talking about, your
• 57:56
  confidence grows, expectation grows, you feel good about
• 58:01
  yourself going into the and. You get ranked Bill and you get
• 58:03
  ranked. Now that they'll keep us out,
• 58:06
  Listen, listen. Preseason polls are bullshit
• 58:09
  because there's eleven teams from the SEC currently getting
• 58:11
  ranked. There ain't 11 good.
• 58:13
  Teams in that welcome conference, I hate it, you know,
• 58:15
  and I'm not, I'm not going to debate you on that.
• 58:17
  I'm just saying like you get into position to be ranked if
• 58:20
  you followed up with Vanderbilt, win, followed up against.
• 58:24
  That no, that's, that's right. No.
• 58:26
  That's that's real. You go to it.
• 58:28
  You go to it you. Can put a number.
• 58:31
  Because again, when's the last time we've been ranked?
• 58:33
  I mean, listen, listen, listen. I'm, I'm, I'm, I remember, I
• 58:39
  remember when one of my favorite movies called.
• 58:42
  It was then said when he played the boxer.
• 58:45
  What about? The hurricane.
• 58:47
  Hurricane, Yeah. So, so remember, remember the
• 58:50
  scene? It was a final appeal.
• 58:52
  And his two lawyers are outside the window and he's sitting
• 58:55
  there like this. Denzel won the goat of acting.
• 58:57
  Yes, Sir. So he took the jailhouse phone
• 59:00
  and he said he banged on that joint.
• 59:02
  He banged on he. Said that's right, banged, he
• 59:05
  said. Look.
• 59:05
  He said look, we do it and I'm and I'm done.
• 59:09
  If it doesn't work out, I'm going to live and die here.
• 59:11
  But I'm paraphrasing the scene, right?
• 59:13
  That's right, yeah. Hey man, Chris, you were a
• 59:16
  Carolina fan. You came in when you saw my cuss
• 59:18
  set the world on fire when you have been in my position.
• 59:22
  I'm Denzel behind the phone man. We ain't got no more.
• 59:25
  Time, bro, I don't know listen, so I know tech will go on long
• 59:28
  after I'm here. What I'm saying to you is this
• 59:32
  program means way more than what people realize to me.
• 59:35
  Like I got 2° from there. I met my wife there, my family,
• 59:39
  everyone's going there. On top of it, I recruited 2 of
• 59:42
  my cousins there. More importantly, the bowl
• 59:45
  games, all different things we helped build there.
• 59:47
  For me, I spoke there. I was a keynote speaker on the
• 59:51
  9/11 Memorial Day. I was a speaker there, right?
• 59:54
  Article written about me. I was the Virginia Tech
• 59:58
  ambassador when Fuente was there.
• 59:59
  I did a football alumni panel. I covered the game with Kyle
• 1:00:04
  Bailey. Pregame show.
• 1:00:05
  I've driven a Tech at 4:00 in the morning to do a pregame show
• 1:00:09
  and watch them blow a blow a lead again or lose to East
• 1:00:12
  Carolina. So I have given my life.
• 1:00:15
  I'm not knocking the newcomers, but to me, I'm Denzel with the
• 1:00:19
  phone. I'm hitting this, this, this
• 1:00:21
  jailhouse phone. And I'm like, hey man.
• 1:00:24
  I'm tired. I'm tired of being irrelevant.
• 1:00:27
  I am tired of like, we didn't execute and we have to make
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  better plays. I can't because way.
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  Forest has surpassed us, Duke has surpassed us, Marshall has
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  surpassed us. We are not supposed to be in
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  this position. This is unacceptable.
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  It's I'm sorry, it's I don't want to hear about in our money
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  and budget, Ricky Leblu listed the thing.
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  We got money now Ricky's my boy. I'm just saying I'm not mocking
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  Ricky. I'm saying like we got money and
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  I know what wits talking about. I'm talking about stop it man,
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  like yo stop playing with people's emotions man.
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  Y'all you didn't understand what this program and living up here,
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  my dad and my father-in-law are Redskins fans, Commanders fans.
• 1:01:15
  I was one when I was a kid, there was a guy that was crying
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  when they clinched the playoffs, when they beat Atlanta and he
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  was in the stands crying. I was looking, I wasn't at the
• 1:01:24
  game, but I remember I saw it on on TikTok and he turned to his
• 1:01:28
  boy. He was like, and he just started
• 1:01:29
  rubbing his boy. He was like, I know if you've
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  been a Commanders fan like my friend, you're talking about
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  decades of irrelevance. Your only Super Bowl win was to
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  beat the Cowboys or play the Eagles close.
• 1:01:43
  I don't want Tech to become that when beating UVA is people
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  online. That is disgusting to me.
• 1:01:52
  I do not want that. I used to wake up on forget when
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  I play. I used to wake up on Sundays
• 1:01:59
  back when the paper came out, even with the social media stuff
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  and say OK, oh they lost, they lost.
• 1:02:04
  We should be 18 tomorrow, we should be 17.
• 1:02:08
  We oh snap we might be #9 now I'm like damn dawg, we are three
• 1:02:13
  and five. Can we even get to a bowl at
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  this point? Yeah, well, I think what what?
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  Dwight, you've again, you've been through every a season of
• 1:02:28
  your life up at tech me. You know, Chris, you got a kid
• 1:02:33
  there. Now you're seeing a season of
• 1:02:35
  his life and then us three up here and and the fourth he gone.
• 1:02:39
  He he got to get his beauty sleep.
• 1:02:41
  So that's for sure someone's got to get to bed.
• 1:02:43
  But for 30 years of our life, 30 years, right?
• 1:02:49
  A lot of that 30 years, it was good times.
• 1:02:51
  It was ten wins. It was Orange bowls, it was
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  Sugar bowls. It was top notch players.
• 1:02:55
  It was doing what you just talked about.
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  We're going to be #5 this week, we're 6 and up USC.
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  The rest fucked us. We got screwed by them.
• 1:03:06
  We want to get back to relevancy.
• 1:03:09
  And I think what you're saying, what you're saying, what you
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  went with your, your your monologue there on South
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  Carolina is why that game is so important.
• 1:03:17
  It's not the Vanderbilt game last year.
• 1:03:18
  If we beat Vanderbilt last year and we go seven and five, people
• 1:03:22
  are just like you beat Vanderbilt, South Carolina's
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  13th in the country. Lenore Sellers is the biggest
• 1:03:27
  fucking thing in quarterback. You mentioned Dylan Stewart, the
• 1:03:29
  biggest DN they have everybody looking at them.
• 1:03:32
  You go down there and you bump them off the heads turn and say,
• 1:03:37
  are they back? Because I said on this program
• 1:03:38
  about a year ago, when will we know we're back?
• 1:03:42
  There will be a moment. There will be a moment in time.
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  We going to know it in the moment, probably not, but you're
• 1:03:49
  going to reflect on it. And I think that's what you're
• 1:03:51
  saying, because that game it is, it's going to be a massive
• 1:03:55
  audience. It's going to be a massive
• 1:03:57
  audience. At 3:00, the stadium is going to
• 1:03:59
  be packed. If you go down there and you
• 1:04:03
  pull off that win, it puts people on notice and how you
• 1:04:09
  pull it off. I don't care how beat them by
• 1:04:13
  30, beat them by 1. I don't care about how much you
• 1:04:17
  win by. Nobody cares.
• 1:04:19
  So Curtis, that goes, that goes to, yeah, I would say so it goes
• 1:04:23
  to this. We've heard from a couple of
• 1:04:25
  different people. What's your number?
• 1:04:28
  I'm at 8. Eight wins.
• 1:04:30
  I'm at eight wins this year. Yeah, I'm, I'm with Dwight.
• 1:04:32
  I'm with eight wins this year. Brian.
• 1:04:35
  I'm liking 8 as well. I'm right.
• 1:04:37
  I'm right at 8:00. I could be talked into 9.
• 1:04:40
  I could be talked into 7. Like I said, I think the the
• 1:04:43
  South Carolina game is going to be the tone setter and that's
• 1:04:45
  going to really kind of depend on how the rest of those chips
• 1:04:48
  fall this season. But I'm going to say.
• 1:04:50
  So real quick. Go ahead, go ahead, I hope.
• 1:04:52
  Me, Dwight, Brian and Talia are all wrong, Chris, and you're
• 1:04:57
  right. Because I'm just saying I'm just
• 1:05:00
  go ahead, go. Ahead, I'm not one of the There
• 1:05:02
  are a lot of people out there and we see them all the time I
• 1:05:05
  don't want the team to win. I want that coach to get fired.
• 1:05:07
  I don't like what we're doing Fuck those people.
• 1:05:10
  Fuck you if you're one of those people you ever pull against
• 1:05:12
  your team, get the. Fuck out.
• 1:05:14
  Because it's bullshit. Because I remember 2021, there
• 1:05:19
  were so many people. I want Fuente to lose.
• 1:05:21
  Why do you? Want our team to lose?
• 1:05:24
  Why do you want do it? And you love to lose.
• 1:05:27
  Maybe it'll. Change things.
• 1:05:28
  No, it's not. You're just going to fall deeper
• 1:05:31
  and deeper into irrelevant. Deeper and deeper.
• 1:05:33
  Yeah, my thing is this, man, I just believe like this and I'm
• 1:05:38
  going to say this and we can get up out of here.
• 1:05:41
  You have 4 guys get relieved in a position if you're better up
• 1:05:45
  front, if you're better up front of your offensive line, which I
• 1:05:48
  totally believe you will be, that makes second.
• 1:05:51
  That makes second and four third and three a lot easier.
• 1:05:56
  If you have an offensive coordinator that has a plan and
• 1:05:59
  an idea what he's doing and he's and he's knowledgeable because
• 1:06:02
  that was the biggest thing. We didn't have a knowledgeable,
• 1:06:05
  credible experience. OC you have that now you've got
• 1:06:08
  a defensive genius like big just sitting up at night thinking of
• 1:06:14
  kind of daggum defenses with C kiss and he wants these guys to
• 1:06:18
  understand it be simple and play fast and you got a bunch of
• 1:06:23
  kids, man that don't don't have this or allure about the SEC
• 1:06:27
  being because a lot of them got recruited to the Seca lot of the
• 1:06:31
  SEC pissed off a bunch of them said they weren't big enough,
• 1:06:35
  they wouldn't miss and they willing to go down there and
• 1:06:37
  bust their ass. I'm just telling you this is a
• 1:06:40
  double digit win team. I'm standing on business.
• 1:06:45
  No, I'll say this, I'll give Chris props on this.
• 1:06:49
  The year they went seven and six prize second year when they went
• 1:06:54
  seven and six, they had a losing record when Don V had his live
• 1:07:00
  and Chris said they're going to a bowl after what I say today,
• 1:07:03
  they're going to a bowl and everybody in that space was like
• 1:07:07
  yo, you, you tripping, You don't know what you're talking about.
• 1:07:09
  You just emotional and they got to a bowl game that year.
• 1:07:13
  So I'm not going to knock Chris prediction of eleven wins.
• 1:07:17
  I'm not even saying that couldn't happen.
• 1:07:19
  I just need man for me and my Peace of Mind.
• 1:07:22
  And I mean I as much as I love Tech as much as I bought into
• 1:07:28
  what that program means. I met my wife at Virginia Tech
• 1:07:31
  bro, like you got to understand something at the time I chose
• 1:07:34
  Tech. I was the first recruit in 94.
• 1:07:38
  I broke a streak because everybody was going to UVA,
• 1:07:40
  Carolina and Penn State or other schools.
• 1:07:42
  I, I was the first person in my schools.
• 1:07:45
  Well, I just interviewed coach Mike Smith and he talked about
• 1:07:47
  it like because they, there was a rift between him and the
• 1:07:50
  coaches and I, I broke the streak.
• 1:07:52
  Then then you got Myron Newsom and a lot of guys, including
• 1:07:55
  Mike and Marcus. So when I chose Tech, nobody was
• 1:07:59
  going to tech from the like that like they like I, I brought that
• 1:08:02
  energy alone. Antonio Banks and Lawrence Lewis
• 1:08:06
  So for me, when tech wins like on a Sunday, especially to start
• 1:08:11
  the week, if they can win that game and by 6:45 we're kneeling
• 1:08:15
  and we throw the ball to the ref and I see orange, maroon pom
• 1:08:19
  poms and people stand up and down.
• 1:08:21
  That gives me life because I don't I play fantasy, I do
• 1:08:25
  parlays. I don't have no favorite NFL
• 1:08:27
  team. I have no favorite NBA team.
• 1:08:28
  Like so we lose. And then on top of it, when you
• 1:08:31
  who I am, my phone, all my phones blow up, blowing up, blow
• 1:08:36
  up. It was like, what's going on?
• 1:08:38
  Fire this dude. This is and and and I have to
• 1:08:41
  kind of help then de escalate the fan base because I've been
• 1:08:45
  appointed and annoyed at the voice of reason, which I am.
• 1:08:48
  So yeah, man, I'm glad. Yeah, I need.
• 1:08:51
  Sometimes you need space to vent too, because like watch it you,
• 1:08:55
  you live it, you, you got a vent, but you also got to be the
• 1:08:58
  voice of reason. So you got to kind of come at it
• 1:09:00
  from both angles sometimes. You understand what I did when I
• 1:09:03
  went back to 757 and I was wearing my tech gear.
• 1:09:07
  It went from where where you at Vermont to like yo, I'm trying
• 1:09:11
  to go there so I understand what I did.
• 1:09:12
  When I came there was an influx of Hampton High guys to include
• 1:09:16
  Tyrod Taylor. I got I help bring in guys that
• 1:09:21
  are household names like legendary.
• 1:09:22
  They have their names engraved in plaques on walls.
• 1:09:25
  I'm not trying to make this show as we wrap up about me.
• 1:09:27
  What I'm saying is when I speak, it's not just emotion.
• 1:09:30
  It's not just like we need the 1st 40 fans to come out and get
• 1:09:34
  a free T-shirt. I don't want to do all that
• 1:09:35
  manufacture bullshit. I'm talking about something I
• 1:09:38
  believe that I believe in, like the Vandy laws hurt me.
• 1:09:42
  Like losing, you say it hurts, it hurts like it hurts like
• 1:09:46
  losing over to you and have to hit those fans behind me and
• 1:09:49
  talk and talk reckless, you know?
• 1:09:52
  So to me, you know, when Chris talks about 11 wins, I'm all for
• 1:09:56
  it. I just need them to be.
• 1:09:57
  I just need them. I need the people that make
• 1:09:59
  their money. The way I talk about it on your
• 1:10:02
  show, it needs to matter to them that way because you know what
• 1:10:06
  JC and those guys, they feel the same way I do.
• 1:10:11
  Thank you. This is this is what I'll say.
• 1:10:13
  This is what I'll say while we close.
• 1:10:15
  Them out cap. It off how I feel when you go
• 1:10:19
  look at the Titanic, right? The Titanic had everything.
• 1:10:23
  The Titanic had everything they needed.
• 1:10:26
  They had the band playing, they had the the best boat, they had
• 1:10:29
  the fancy food. All the rich people was there.
• 1:10:32
  Everything was lined up. It was the captain's job to take
• 1:10:36
  the the the boat from here to here safely.
• 1:10:40
  That motherfucker ran. That motherfucker ran into a big
• 1:10:43
  ass thing of ice and killed a whole bunch of people.
• 1:10:47
  Pry. If you're going to drive this
• 1:10:49
  boat, stay away from the micebergs, man.
• 1:10:52
  We trying to make it. We trying to make it to the
• 1:10:55
  other side safe and the other side safe is eight wins.
• 1:10:59
  We happy. You keep hitting icebergs,
• 1:11:01
  brother. Get your signature win this
• 1:11:04
  year. Go beat somebody.
• 1:11:06
  I'm tired of losing. I'm tired of seeing new King
• 1:11:08
  talk about Miami and and what they doing.
• 1:11:13
  We got to win this year. So I'm going to end it with
• 1:11:15
  that. Curtis, what you got for me?
• 1:11:17
  Let's wrap up this episode of the Boundary Corner podcast.
• 1:11:20
  Crystal White thank you all for bringing the energy.
• 1:11:23
  Love y'all both. Thank you, man.
• 1:11:25
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