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Armor Or Anchor? Friend Audit · Unashamed Table Talk

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_02: Hello.
• 0:01
  SPEAKER_01: Welcome back to Unashamed Table Talk.
• 0:05
  SPEAKER_02: We are glad y'all are with us today for sure.
• 0:08
  SPEAKER_02: We're excited.
• 0:09
  SPEAKER_01: It has really been so fun to see the traction of people sharing and listening to our podcast.
• 0:18
  SPEAKER_01: And I don't ever want to be like prideful in any kind of way or boastful, but like for a long time, we had like five downloads a week.
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_01: You know, like it was Terry Pollard and then she probably listened again.
• 0:34
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, there you go.
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_02: I said it's probably Deborah Miller.
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_02: Like, yeah, yeah.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe I mean we have a few that are, you know, faithful warriors that I think join us regularly.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_01: But to see the numbers grow and the shares on social media about it and people having fun with us, it's really fun.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_01: So thank you so much for all of you that tune in each week and just support us on this journey.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_01: And we've gotten so tickled because we are complete idiots most of the time.
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_01: And the blooper reel is probably the most ridiculous thing ever because I just spent the last 30 minutes having a full-on conversation with someone who I thought I've already talked to about being a guest on the show, and it was the wrong person.
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_01: So Denise has had a fun time with that.
• 1:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I've been sitting here just waiting for us to start, and she's like, Okay, be at my house tomorrow at 4:30.
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_02: We're gonna meet over there.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, Okay, awesome.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_02: She's like, Yeah, she lives in Glitchmark and everything.
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_02: No, she doesn't, y'all.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_02: She lives in South Carolina.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_02: Wrong person.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_01: But today we are talking about Moses, and we're gonna be in Exodus chapter 17.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_01: This is one of my all-time favorite scriptures.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_01: The very first time I heard this scripture being taught, where I understood it, maybe ever, but especially understanding it, was in a very one of my first seminars that I went to, and Janet White taught on this scripture, and I have loved it ever since, and I have used this scripture in many different ways at many different women's events, and it's it's really talking about Moses and a couple of guys, and which doesn't seem like it would fit for women's ministry, but I flip it and I use it in women's ministry events all the time because I love how, and I don't know exactly where we're going in this today, but I love how he's got his pals, his his friends that show up and lift his arms up through the battle.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_01: And as women, we've talked about similar things before, but I don't know how we can do this life without our friends lifting our arms up in battle.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_01: And so, anyways, yeah, well, this was your scripture that you wanted to choose.
• 3:07
  SPEAKER_01: So, where do you want to go with it?
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_02: Our pastor, brother Nathan, has been he's been speaking on this and teaching on it several uh weeks now, off and on, and I have just received so much from it and looked at it from a different point of view.
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_02: And one of the things that keeps sticking out to me as far as in ministry is first of all, y'all, we get tired of fighting battles.
• 3:35
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, if you're out there listening right now and you get tired of fighting battles, well, you just kind of raise your hand right now because absolutely we do.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_02: No one wants to fight a battle, we don't look forward to it.
• 3:47
  SPEAKER_02: But Moses, I feel like he was kind of in a battle all the time, like with the Israelites, with his own people, right?
• 3:55
  SPEAKER_02: Because he would be leading with Pharaoh.
• 4:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, but like even like he would be leading his people well, and then all of a sudden his people start whining and complaining, and they're like, Where are we going?
• 4:09
  SPEAKER_02: Why ain't we there yet?
• 4:10
  SPEAKER_02: What's going on?
• 4:12
  SPEAKER_02: I'm tired of this manna, I'm tired of that.
• 4:14
  SPEAKER_02: Like, can he drop a steak down?
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna go get my own food.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_02: Like, it's just whining about so many things, and so I feel like Moses was kind of in a battle, even with his own people, a lot of times, of trying to go one direction and trying to lead well, but it's hard to lead well.
• 4:35
  SPEAKER_02: I also love that as we get into the scripture, we can break it down then.
• 4:40
  SPEAKER_02: But uh, like you said, I love the fact that he is going into a battle and he knows he can't do anything without the Lord, and that is the same with us.
• 4:50
  SPEAKER_02: We try to step off in battle a lot of times, I think, on our own, and we get beat up and we come whimpering back with our tail between our legs and going, Okay, Lord, I need you after all.
• 5:01
  SPEAKER_02: I can't do this.
• 5:02
  SPEAKER_02: And so I think there's just tons of things we can get from this scripture.
• 5:05
  SPEAKER_02: But anyway, we're in Exodus chapter 17, and it kind of starts it starts in way back, but we can just start in verse eight.
• 5:15
  SPEAKER_01: So, verse eight, while the people of Israel were still at I you made me say the hard words.
• 5:21
  SPEAKER_01: I ain't making you do anything.
• 5:23
  SPEAKER_01: You did that on purpose.
• 5:25
  SPEAKER_01: You look at that, you like she ain't gonna be able to say that word.
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_01: Let's make her start.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's what I did.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_01: I figured Rephedim, Rep Rephiadem.
• 5:33
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know how you say it.
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_01: They were at this place, and the warriors of Amalek attacked them.
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_01: Moses commanded Joshua, choose cement to go out and fight the army of Amalek for us.
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_01: Tomorrow I will stand at the top of the hill, holding the staff of God in my hand.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_01: So Joshua did what Moses had commanded and fought the army of Amalek.
• 5:55
  SPEAKER_01: Meanwhile, Moses, Aaron, and her climbed to the top of the nearby hill.
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_01: As long as Moses held up the staff in his hand, the Israelites had the advantage.
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_01: But whenever he dropped his hand, the Amlekites gained the advantage.
• 6:11
  SPEAKER_01: Moses' arms soon became so tired he could no longer hold them up.
• 6:16
  SPEAKER_01: So Aaron and her found a stone for him to sit on.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_01: Then they stood on each side of Moses, holding up his hands.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_01: So his hands held steady until sunset.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_01: As a result, Joshua overwhelmed the army of Amalek in battle.
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_01: Good job.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_01: I love it.
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_01: It's just such a visual representation.
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_01: Like I could just see this whole scene playing out, and the battle is raging all around, and you've got Moses, and uh, it's just so good.
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, really, I think it is important that we try to visualize it.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_02: It makes the the words already alive, but when we try to visualize it and put ourselves in the place of Moses or the guys who are battling or whatever, you know, a lot of times we are looking at Moses here and we're looking at his friends and him holding up that staff.
• 7:13
  SPEAKER_02: But think about if you're the one out there fighting, if you're Joshua and them.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_02: You know, you're fighting and you can tell you you've got the victory that God's on your side, and then all of a sudden you're getting down and out, and you start realizing that you're losing a foothold, and you maybe you're turning around going, what the heck's happening?
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_02: And looking back at Moses and you see those arms getting tired and coming down.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_02: You know, like I don't know if they had an opportunity to look back and see or not because they're in battle, but you know, they are fighting and at one moment they're winning, at the next moment they're starting to lose a little ground, but then oh, and then they start winning again because Moses calls on some guys to come and help him hold up his hands, and they they bring the the stone over for him to sit on.
• 8:04
  SPEAKER_02: Uh actually, it says so Aaron and her found a stone for him to sit on, then they stood on each side of Moses holding up his hands, like just that visual of, like you said, there's so it's probably so loud.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_02: There's people getting killed, there's blood being shed, there's things happening all around.
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_02: But these three guys have to focus on keeping that staff in there.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, I mean, this is this can go so deep, but I love just the simple practical things, is uh what always pulls out in this scripture passage to me is that Moses, first off, and at least we don't see that it says Moses asked Aaron and her to come with him.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_01: They knew he was going into battle, and they knew he needed support.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_01: And so, at least from what I take from this, is he's got these two guys are like, We're with you.
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_01: And then they see him getting tired, and I don't know what they're doing on the sidelines while he's getting tired.
• 9:09
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe they're just praying, maybe they're just watching out, maybe they're the lookout crew.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know, but they start to see him get tired and they find the rock.
• 9:18
  SPEAKER_01: Again, it never says that Moses was like, dude, I need a rock, I gotta sit down, my legs are gonna give out.
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_01: They just they saw a need, met a need, and I love that.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_01: And then it just keeps going on and it keeps building, and they see his arms getting tired, and they see that when his arms are drooping, the battle is starting to not look so good, and and they're gonna lose, right?
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_01: And and so they don't say, Hey, let me take a turn, because it we don't even know that they could take a turn, because we assume by the word that they can't take a turn, and so instead of trying to take over or whatever, they just say, Okay, we're gonna hold your arms up, and they do that again.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_01: It never shows that Moses had to ask for help.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_01: And and have you ever just been so down on your luck?
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_01: And people will say, and it's it with the best of intentions.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_01: I sincerely mean it's I feel it's with the best of intentions, is they'll say, Well, how can I help?
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_01: And you don't even know.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_01: And I can just imagine Moses in that moment, and if Aaron or her said, How can I help?
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_01: He's got to be thinking, I don't even know how you can help.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I'm just weak, I'm tired, but I can't let my arms down.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_01: And so we don't see any of those conversations.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_01: We don't know if maybe there were some or not.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_01: I assume not.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_01: I like to pretend there were none.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_01: I see these two warriors, and they're just like, they see a need, meet a need, see a need, meet a need, see a need, meet a need, and they bring him a stone to sit on, they hold his arms up, and the battle prevail prevails.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_01: And I love that.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_02: When we're going into battle, who do we take with us?
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_02: Not too long ago, we did a podcast, and you had just received news about baby Briar, your granddaughter, and you didn't know what the news was going to be.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_02: All you knew is that you needed people praying.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_02: You didn't go out to total strangers and ask them to pray.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_02: Nothing wrong with that, but you don't even know if they're praying people or if they know the Lord.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_02: You chose people that you knew would hit their knees and lift up your granddaughter to the Lord.
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_02: And by the way, God answered that prayer, and it is a praise today.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_02: We can say God answered the prayer, and baby Briar is just fine, right?
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_02: But you don't go to just anyone to ask for help.
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_02: You need to go to people who you know love the Lord, who are going to help you the best that they can, that is going to try to hold you up.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_02: But we have to be careful who we get.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_02: When we're in battle, who are you going to choose to go into battle with you?
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_02: And the fact that you need somebody.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_02: You can't do it by yourself.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_02: Well, you can, but we shouldn't do it by ourselves.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_02: We can call on the Lord when we're in times of battle, but the Lord sends us people who can rally around us and encourage us and help us in those times of battle.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_02: So one is there's always going to be a battle.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_02: Second thing is you got to go into battle the way God told you to go into battle.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_02: Don't turn, tucktail, and run.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_02: Face the battle, go forward knowing that God's with you.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_02: And the other thing is, who are you going to take into battle with you?
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_02: Who are your friends that you're going to call on?
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_02: You need the right people around you.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_02: You don't need people around you that are going to suck the life out of you.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_02: You don't need Job's friends.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_02: Right?
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_02: Tell you all the things you did wrong.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_02: You need people who are just going to, like you said, see a need and they're going to help you with the need.
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_01: I love that.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_01: We before we started recording, you had mentioned another battle scene.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_01: And I kind of wonder when you're talking about when Joshua was fighting, if and when when Moses' arms were kind of getting droopy and the Amalekites were kind of starting to win a little bit and prevail, then was was, you know, like you said, I don't know if he could see them or not, or whatever.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_01: But I I wish that there was a moment in the like the other battle we talked about earlier where the you could see the angels, you know, and the the warriors going on because there is a constant battle all around us at all times, I believe.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_01: And I don't think this is any different in that either.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_02: And a lot Elisha in 2 Kings is at a place where there's people coming to get him.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_02: There's these chariots coming and different things, and his servant comes out and says, basically, this is the Denise version.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my gosh, what are we gonna do?
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_02: Look, Elisha, here they come, they're fixing to kill us.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_02: And Elijah just kind of like, Man, don't you worry about it.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_02: Lord opened his eyes so he can see what I see.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_02: And the Lord opens his eyes, and uh and the Elisha's servant see there are many more warriors on their side than there is on the enemy's side.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_02: And Elijah's servant is able to see that, and when he sees that, he's just amazed at what all he, what all is around him.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_02: He sees these angels, and so I think you're right.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_02: It at this place where Moses is and this battle's going on, as long as he's got that staff up, I believe there are angels all around.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_02: The Bible tells us, even right now, wherever we sit, wherever you are listening to this podcast, there are angels all around fighting for us.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_02: There is a spiritual warfare and something going on above us and all around us that we can't even see.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_02: And thank the Lord He blinds us from that because we probably couldn't handle it.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, we definitely couldn't.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, but that reminds me, you know, sometimes I'm like, I just wish I knew what God wanted me to do.
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, heck no.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_01: If I could see the whole plan laid out, I wouldn't have the faith to move forward because that first step might not be terribly scary, but if I see like step 20 and 25 and what's gonna be coming along the line because I took that first step, I'd be like, peace out, not too hard, you know.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_02: I was just in Arkansas not too long ago at uh speaking at a women's event and had heard a song on the way up.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_02: It said In On It.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_02: I think is the name of the song.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_02: It's kind of it's a Christian song, but it's kind of got this country twist to it.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_02: And basically she says, God's got a plan.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_02: We're just not in on it.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_02: And I was thinking when we got to the conference, I'd heard that song one night, and then they sang it at the conference.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, oh my gosh, I just heard that song.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_02: And I went ahead and just spoke on it for a minute.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_02: I thought, you know what?
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_02: God has a plan no matter what.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_02: Just because we're not in on it doesn't mean he doesn't have a plan.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_02: And here's the thing if we were in on it, we wouldn't believe him anyway.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_02: That's right.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_02: We wouldn't believe the plan.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_02: We'd be like, What?
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_02: Well, why don't you do it this way?
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_02: How come you're doing that?
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_02: We'd question everything.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_02: The Lord knows his ways better than our ways.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_02: We just have to trust him because we we wouldn't we wouldn't trust it.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_02: Just like this battle right here, if they could see everything that was going on around them, they would probably be scared to death.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_02: I would.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I let's be real, if they knew that them winning the war, the battle, was dependent on Moses keeping the staff up in the air, yeah, would they even draw their swords?
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_01: You know?
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, like, I'm just gonna say, if I know, I mean, I don't, I don't, this isn't a real life situation, but like if I know that me being successful is only dependent on if you can keep your arms raised for 15 hours, right?
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_01: I could be like, I'm probably not gonna be in that competition, right?
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just not gonna believe you can do it.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_02: And he couldn't.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you just think about even like we're in a time of worship at church.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_02: Have you ever been in a place and you just like raise your hands and worship and you have them up for so long and they start getting tired and you start to put them down and then they start another song, and then you're like, oh, and you want to put your hands right back up again, you know, because it's so good, but your arms are getting tired.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_02: Or when you get in one of those holy huddles where they got everybody holding their hands, each other's hands, and they're stretched out or something, you know, and the and they say, We're gonna go around the circle.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm thinking, oh Lord, no, because by the time it gets around, my arms are so tired.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_02: I want to put my arms down.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it's always I'm always, I feel like I'm that one off person that has one hand turned one way and one hand turned the other way, having to hold a hand.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, oh man, I just need to flip my other hand like this ain't comfortable.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_01: Or you get someone that has real sweaty hands.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_02: We get so off track, but you bringing up sweaty hands.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_02: So my daughter, when she was little, Dakota, her hands were always sweaty, so she would go to hold my hand.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_02: I'd be oh no, I wouldn't hold her hand because her hand was sweaty.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_02: You're a mean mama.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_02: I know now she's you know, grown 30-something years old, and she's she says she don't ever want to hold people's hand because she's like all all sensitive about it or whatever, paranoid about it because her hands are always sweaty, and her own mama didn't want to hold her hand, so now she don't want to hold it.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, oh, I'm so sorry.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_02: He gave her a complex.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, I gave her a complex.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_02: You are one of many guys, mom.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_02: One of many, one of many, I'm sure.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_02: So, what else do we see in this scripture that we can yeah?
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_01: It gives me so tickled because I just be having fun talking to y'all, and then Denise's like, okay, business, back to business.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_01: We're recording.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_01: You need to move it along, move it along.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_01: People's time is important, it is important.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_01: I agree.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, look at these people in battle.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_02: Time was important.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_02: All right, what about the two guys, Aaron and her?
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_02: They bring the stone for him to sit down and then they stand on each side holding his arms up.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, well, I wonder if their hands started to get tired.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_02: I wonder if like they held up for a while, and then maybe Aaron was like, Look, dude, my arms are getting tired.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_02: I can't do this anymore.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_02: You are you okay?
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_02: You okay?
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_02: You got it?
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_02: I'm just gonna let go for a minute, you know, and like let go.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_01: Tagger it kind of thing.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_02: Tagger it.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_02: Moses, come on, you're gonna have to hold it up on your own for a minute.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe move them arms around, shake them a little bit, rub on them, go, okay, okay, I'm ready, I'm ready.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, I got you, Moses.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_02: And then maybe her is doing the same thing.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_01: Well, and even like I don't like I can just imagine Moses' arms are raised high, he's got this staff, and I and the way I see it is like Aaron and her on either side, and they're kind of giving that support, and that helps, but his his arms are still raised, he's still holding on to the staff, yeah.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_01: And even though he has the you know, the the physical support of that, his arms are still raised, and he still has to hold on because he, you know, I mean, at least again, what I'm presuming to be the case is he can't let go, you know, it's not like they can keep it raised for him, he still has to have it raised, they're there to support and help, and they've come along beside him, but the the task, the the job is still Moses's.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_01: They can't take over for him.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, there's things in life that we're gonna be dealing with, and and I can walk along beside you, but really the pain is gonna be yours to bear, right?
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_01: And I can bear it with you, and I can join along beside you in that, but really uh the the job is still yours to do, right?
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_02: I was thinking about this whole story, thinking, why does God have Moses standing there holding a staff up anyway?
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_02: Like God can ask us to do some of the craziest things sometimes that makes no sense.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_02: You're going into battle, hold a staff up.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_02: Lord, hold a staff up.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, we're going into battle.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_02: Why do I need to hold a staff up?
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_02: You know, God asks us to do some things that.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_02: makes no sense to us.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_02: Or when they go into battle and they're playing the the instruments, you know, and they're walking around Jericho.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, we're supposed to be going to battle and you have us going to jar around Jericho, like circling Jericho.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_02: It like why he has us do some strange things sometimes.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_02: I remember early in my recovery, I actually had almost two years clean, but I had got involved with celebrate recovery at that point and had a had a sponsor for the first time.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_02: As I was working my steps, kept saying I found myself saying a phrase over and over again.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_02: And finally I sat back and I was just like oh my gosh I just say that all the time don't I?
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_02: And my sponsor was like yep like like she's been sitting here noticing it the whole time waiting for me to get it.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_02: And then finally I'm like oh and it was basically I was always saying something like I'm not good enough or I don't know that I could do well at that or I may mess that up or I don't want to do that because I'm going to fail or I didn't get it right.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_02: Just things like that.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_02: And so one day we're sitting around and she has this bright idea and she gets so excited about it and she goes oh my gosh I think God is telling me you're supposed to wear a sign.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like a sign?
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not wearing no stupid sign.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_02: And so anyway I knew God was telling me the same thing I need to wear this sign.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_02: And I thought it was so dumb.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_02: Like why is God asking me to wear this sign?
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_02: This is stupid.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_02: I had a yellow piece of paper like construction paper punched a couple of holes in it had purple ribbon around it and I had to wear this dumb sign around my neck and it said I am worth something.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_02: And so the deal was anytime someone saw this sign and they asked me about it, I had to say something like I am valuable not because of anything I've done but because of what God's done.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_02: But I would I called that sign stupid for the longest time but I knew God had asked me to do that.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_02: Long story short there's so much I could share in that and what I learned and some fun situations that happened with some that sign, some embarrassing situations with that sign.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_02: But at the end of the day what I learned from it here I am 16 years later what I still remember about that is no matter what God asked me to do, even if it doesn't make sense, just be willing to do whatever God asks you.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_02: I don't it didn't have to make sense to me.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_02: But when I know in my gut God said do it it might seem dumb, weird, embarrassing, but be willing to do what God asks you to do even when it don't make sense.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_01: I love that that could go again just now I'm more rabbit trails but talking about obedience is better than sacrifice and you know also the scripture that comes to my mind anytime that something doesn't make sense I cling to the verse usually it's in hard times but could even be in silly times or just unknown but is the is to lean not on my own understanding because the reality is I will never be able to comprehend the the full understanding of anything that God does.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_01: I can't understand grace like I can't understand why he allows me to record this podcast with you why he allows me to go to these women's events these conferences these fundraisers these galas and and get to share about what he's done like it doesn't it doesn't make sense I can't understand why I was able to a few weeks ago pick up a phone and send out text messages to amazing prayer warrior godly women and then be able to rejoice about my granddaughter you know not having the the problem with her skull and like it's it's unexplainable God's God is too much but in all the only good ways.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_01: And that's true too but it's a different kind of too much God is a God is too much in a good way.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_02: By the time this airs we will have just literally last weekend finished our unashamed conference in Hot Springs.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_02: And right now we're like oh my gosh Lord I hope we haven't forgotten anything I hope it goes well but the crazy thing is is whether we forget something or not we know God's in it and it's going to go well.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_02: And so by the time this airs we're going to be in on the other side of it and we're going to be like oh my gosh it went so good.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_02: God's so good and we can't believe that he has called us to get to do that to get to have that conference.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_02: And even when we're doing the conference there's always things that come up that the Lord asks of us to do certain things or not to do certain things.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_02: And so we always have to be willing to be sensitive to the Holy Spirit and do whatever he asks us even if it doesn't make sense but when it's all over with we can usually look back and go oh that's why he said do this or don't do that.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_02: It's so cool to look back and see how God works and things.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_01: It's very cool.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_01: But because of that what we can do right now is we can announce that in 2027 we are going back to Granberry Texas.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yes we are guess who is leading worship Kevy is coming back to lead worship.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_02: We are so excited so excited those of you who came to our very first unashamed conference in Galveston you have been asking for him ever since and we it'll be our five year anniversary for Unashamed Women's Conference and he was at the first year and he was super excited to join us and we won't have a beach necessarily to go out to like we did in Galveston but we will be doing worship out on the patio area outside overlooking Lake Cranberry.
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah on the boardwalk yeah overlook overlooking Lake Granberry so go to our website and click on the link and you can get your tickets there and it is currently right now still the early bird special so you can save quite a bit of money especially if you're going to buy a group we want you to come and bring all your friends and just yeah it's going to be awesome.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_02: This conference is a time just like we're talking about here with Moses those who you go you battle with you go into battle with all year long those women that are your prayer warriors those women who encourage you those women that you call when you're excited about something or you're struggling with something this is a fantastic time for all of those ladies to come together in one place enjoy each other's company have fun laugh eat some good food and be able to get in the word and worship it's just a great great time it's also a good time to bring someone who doesn't know the Lord because that's one of the reasons why we don't have it at a church is that sometimes people will come to this event and they won't come to church but it's an awesome opportunity to invite somebody who would love to be one of your prayer warriors but they're just not there yet.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_02: They're they're just trying to figure out who God is what better place to take them is to a conference so they can come to know the Lord and have fun all in the same time.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah it's going to be awesome.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_02: All right so anything else in Exodus do whatever God asks you to do even when it doesn't make sense he can't go into battle without him be careful who you choose to go into battle with you.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_02: And look here when you get tired and you're ready to give up because you've been fighting it too long you've been praying for the same thing for five years and you don't see nothing happening when you're getting tired just remember the Lord sees you hears you and he is with you.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_01: He never leaves you don't give up stay in the battle keep giving it to him and when you see a need a need if you see a piece of paper on the ground walk into your church building pick it up and throw it away if you see a friend struggling lift their arms up or as I like to say show up with donuts and diet Dr.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_01: Pepper if it's me.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_02: If it's me I'll take coffee or a Coke zero and chocolate.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_02: Any kind of chocolate chocolate I love chocolate.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_02: Oh you know them little turtles it's got the caramel in it and the peanuts I'm not picky though I like me a good Reese.
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_01: I love how we get off track I know but it's important to know in case you're wondering I like my Reese's cups cold I like to stay I have something right now in the freezer and I've been eating like two a day I'm gonna gain all the weight I've lost back this past year because I just keep eating all this Reese's peanut butter cups frozen and they're so delicious especially with an ice cold dying Dr.
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_01: Pepper oh it's so good I like a cold Reese.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_02: I like them little miniature Reese's steak oh I do too here's the moral of the story is if you need to encourage us just send us chocolate if we need encouraging chocolate works if I've had a bad day I just need chocolate or you can pray for us that's better I guess yeah that's better than chocolate.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_00: Prayer and chocolate though I mean let's start with Jesus and add some chocolate to the mix thank y'all for joining us again if you need some encouragement reach out to us we'd love to pray for you you've been listening to Table Talk with BJ Garrett and Denise Bowens to support this ministry through prayer or giving visit our website at unashamedww.com may you be encouraged rooted in truth and unashamed