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- 0:00Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Three Kansas City Chiefs fans
- 0:09Speaker 1: found dead in the backyard of a friend after an
- 0:13Speaker 1: NFL watch party. Their families still have no explanation for
- 0:18Speaker 1: their sons. Let's just say mysterious deaths, but in the
- 0:23Speaker 1: last hours, a homicide detective believes criminal charges are still possible.
- 0:29Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for
- 0:32Speaker 1: being with us. That's right. Clayton mcgheey, Ricky Johnson, and
- 0:37Speaker 1: David Harrington all found dead in Jordan Willis's Kansas City
- 0:43Speaker 1: backyard back on January nine, one year to date after
- 0:48Speaker 1: the three were found frozen in their friend's backyard after
- 0:52Speaker 1: that NFL watch party. Still no explanation as to the deaths.
- 0:59Speaker 1: They were old young men. Mcgheiney thirty seven, Johnson thirty eight,
- 1:03Speaker 1: Harrington thirty six, all found dead behind their friend, Jordan
- 1:08Speaker 1: Willis's home. Two days earlier. The four had met up
- 1:13Speaker 1: at the friend's house to watch the Kansas City Chiefs
- 1:15Speaker 1: play the La Chargers in the days before. Clayton mcghey's
- 1:20Speaker 1: fiance found the men's bodies, not the dweller in the home,
- 1:26Speaker 1: Jordan Willis, who had the party Willis could not be
- 1:29Speaker 1: reached by phone and didn't answer his door for days now.
- 1:35Speaker 1: This is according to family members who searched for the
- 1:38Speaker 1: three friends who never came home, but a rep from
- 1:43Speaker 1: Platte County Prosecutor's office says that the investigation into the
- 1:47Speaker 1: three men's deaths is still on going, while the families
- 1:54Speaker 1: of the three say now one year later, there are
- 1:58Speaker 1: no updates, Johnson's mother saying she is quote heartbroken and
- 2:04Speaker 1: I bet she is okay what happened? Listen?
- 2:08Speaker 2: On January eighth, friends and family of David Harrington, Ricky Johnson,
- 2:12Speaker 2: and Clayton mcginney are concerned about their friends. The last
- 2:16Speaker 2: they knew is they were headed to Jordan willis house
- 2:19Speaker 2: to watch the game. But now none of the guys,
- 2:22Speaker 2: including Jordan Willis, are replying to messages on social media
- 2:26Speaker 2: or by phone.
- 2:27Speaker 1: Okay, right there, January eight, it's cold. They are partying
- 2:33Speaker 1: at Jordan's home, Jordan Willis the homeowner. They're watching the
- 2:38Speaker 1: Chiefs and the next thing you know, three or dead
- 2:41Speaker 1: in One claims he's been asleep for days with me
- 2:44Speaker 1: an All Star panel. But first I want to go
- 2:46Speaker 1: to the woman who has been breaking news about this
- 2:49Speaker 1: story from the get go. It's Jen Smith and she
- 2:53Speaker 1: is joining us from dailymail dot com. Jen, That's where
- 2:56Speaker 1: I first found out about this, and it really doesn't
- 3:00Speaker 1: hit me in the face. This guy, Jordan Willis, I mean,
- 3:03Speaker 1: he's no idiot? Is that he a scientist? He's a
- 3:07Speaker 1: young guy, big Kansas City Chiefs fan. But he's smart.
- 3:12Speaker 1: He's really smart. I don't get how he sleeps for
- 3:16Speaker 1: how many days while his friends are dead in the backyard.
- 3:20Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, very very fishy to say the least.
- 3:23Speaker 3: Jordan Willis, as you rightly point out, is an accomplished scientist,
- 3:28Speaker 3: done loads of research into HIV and aids lots of
- 3:32Speaker 3: research into COVID nineteen. Very accomplished guy, no form of record,
- 3:38Speaker 3: living in the home in Kansas City, Missouri. He had
- 3:42Speaker 3: gone to high school with two of the three men
- 3:45Speaker 3: who were later found dead, with friends with the other
- 3:48Speaker 3: for many years, seemingly a completely normal guy. He lived
- 3:53Speaker 3: alone in the house. He works from home. He had
- 3:56Speaker 3: his two beloved pet fills there.
- 3:58Speaker 1: How many pets does he have?
- 4:00Speaker 3: Is two pit bull mixes. They're called Sadie and daz Wait.
- 4:04Speaker 1: Sadie and Daisy don't have to t t for what
- 4:06Speaker 1: seventy two hours?
- 4:08Speaker 3: Well, on this particular night, then see Daisy and Sadie
- 4:12Speaker 3: weren't in the host. According to Jordan Willis, they were
- 4:15Speaker 3: at his father's host, which he says is something that
- 4:19Speaker 3: is totally routine. He often sends them to his father's hosee.
- 4:22Speaker 3: So they weren't actually there, he claimed when all of
- 4:25Speaker 3: this happened.
- 4:26Speaker 1: Okay, James shell Nutt joining me, high profile lawyer and
- 4:29Speaker 1: joining us out of Alabama twenty seven years metro major
- 4:34Speaker 1: case and a big city former swat now leads the
- 4:37Speaker 1: shell Nut law firm. James shell Nutt, let me remind you,
- 4:43Speaker 1: defense attorney, there is no father son privilege like attorney
- 4:47Speaker 1: client or priest, parishioner, no such thing. You know, husband wife,
- 4:53Speaker 1: The wife can't blab that the husband did it. So
- 4:57Speaker 1: what I'm saying is, if this is true or not
- 5:00Speaker 1: true about the dogs being at the dad's house, when
- 5:03Speaker 1: the three friends are found dead in the backyard and
- 5:06Speaker 1: on the porch, he's got to testify. If called, absolutely.
- 5:11Speaker 4: He's got to testify, and you know he could be
- 5:13Speaker 4: suppended in front of a grand jury. He doesn't have
- 5:16Speaker 4: to talk to investigators might come to his house. But
- 5:18Speaker 4: they can most certainly down the road if it becomes necessary,
- 5:21Speaker 4: subpoening him to a grand jury, and then he will
- 5:23Speaker 4: be forced to testify unless he himself or to take
- 5:26Speaker 4: the Fifth Amendment.
- 5:26Speaker 1: Now, you know, Chelle Nutt, I never discuss politics because
- 5:31Speaker 1: I don't want crime and crime victims to become some
- 5:35Speaker 1: kind of political football. But when this reality of the
- 5:41Speaker 1: law came to the forefront was during the Bill Clinton era,
- 5:46Speaker 1: when Monica Lewinsky's mother was called to a grand jury,
- 5:51Speaker 1: and everybody was screaming, Oh, the mother's gonna have to testify.
- 5:55Speaker 1: That's wrong, that's illegal. It's not. It is not illegals, fathers, sisters, brothers,
- 6:02Speaker 1: they have to testify. They cannot take the fifth. They've
- 6:06Speaker 1: got to tell the truth about their relative, their son,
- 6:09Speaker 1: their daughter. So that's when it came to the forefront,
- 6:12Speaker 1: harsh as it is. Of course, I'm not saying the
- 6:14Speaker 1: mom or the dad won't lie under oath. I mean,
- 6:17Speaker 1: take a look at Casey Anthony top mom. Her mother,
- 6:20Speaker 1: Cindy Anthony, a very nice lady, got up on the
- 6:24Speaker 1: stand and she I believe, perjured herself and took the
- 6:29Speaker 1: heat claiming that she made the searches for homemade chloroform,
- 6:34Speaker 1: which she said she meant to type chlorophyl. Okay, whatever
- 6:40Speaker 1: that said, she still got called to the stand. So
- 6:44Speaker 1: if what Jen Smith is telling us, chief investigative reporter
- 6:47Speaker 1: at Dealimail dot com is true, the dad I guarantee
- 6:50Speaker 1: you it is going to be a questioned But back
- 6:51Speaker 1: to the three dead bodies. Listen to Sidy Sumner from
- 6:55Speaker 1: Crime Online.
- 6:56Speaker 5: On Tuesday, January ninth, nine fifty one pm, Clayton McGhee's
- 7:00Speaker 5: fiance shows up at the house. She sees the cars
- 7:03Speaker 5: in the driveway, and since nobody is answering the phone
- 7:06Speaker 5: or replying to messages, she breaks into the home and.
- 7:09Speaker 1: Screams Willis's name.
- 7:10Speaker 5: She has had no communication with her partner for two
- 7:13Speaker 5: days and she wants answers. She walks through the house
- 7:15Speaker 5: and doesn't find her fiance. Then she looks on the
- 7:18Speaker 5: back porch and sees a body.
- 7:20Speaker 1: Holy moly, So the fiance has been trying to reach
- 7:24Speaker 1: all of these guys. Let me understand, jas Smith joining
- 7:27Speaker 1: us Dailymail dot com. Did she just call her fiance
- 7:31Speaker 1: Clayton mcghini or does she try to reach the homeowner
- 7:35Speaker 1: Jordan Willis?
- 7:36Speaker 3: All of the abuffs. She tried to reach Clayton. She
- 7:40Speaker 3: tried to reach Jordan Willis. The other families also tried
- 7:43Speaker 3: to reach him before the fiance eventually went to the
- 7:47Speaker 3: house on and she ends up breaking in, actually through
- 7:50Speaker 3: the basement because she don't no response when she bind
- 7:52Speaker 3: on the door. Other families had gone there and bind
- 7:56Speaker 3: on the door and tried to get in. They sent
- 7:58Speaker 3: Jordan Willis facebook messages call them, all of which they
- 8:01Speaker 3: received silence for all. So it wasn't as if this
- 8:06Speaker 3: was her first attempt.
- 8:07Speaker 1: Including calling all the friends, all four of them, including
- 8:11Speaker 1: the home owner. And I'm not calling him the or
- 8:14Speaker 1: the defendant because he as of right now has not
- 8:17Speaker 1: been charged with a crime. Okay, let's pick it up
- 8:20Speaker 1: with fiance going through that breaking in. I mean, she
- 8:24Speaker 1: sees the cars out front, she sees that they're all
- 8:27Speaker 1: still there, but nobody's answering the door, the phone messages nothing,
- 8:32Speaker 1: so she breaks in wisely and starts screaming. Let's pick
- 8:38Speaker 1: it up. But how did the whole thing start? Okay,
- 8:42Speaker 1: let's freeze the screaming fiance in time. How did this
- 8:45Speaker 1: day start off? Listen?
- 8:47Speaker 2: January seven is a football day for the Kansas City
- 8:50Speaker 2: Chiefs as they will be playing the Los Angeles Chargers,
- 8:53Speaker 2: so thirty eight year old Jordan Willis invites a couple
- 8:56Speaker 2: of buddies to come to his house and watch the game.
- 9:00Speaker 2: David Harrington, Ricky Johnson, and Clayton mcginney arrive at willis
- 9:04Speaker 2: house in time for the three twenty five pm Central
- 9:07Speaker 2: Time kickoff. They enjoy the game as the Chiefs beat
- 9:10Speaker 2: the Chargers thirteen to twelve, and Willis makes plans for
- 9:14Speaker 2: them to all get tickets for the next home game.
- 9:16Speaker 1: Okay, what happens? Then?
- 9:17Speaker 5: After the game, Jordan Willis waves the guys off and
- 9:20Speaker 5: crashes on the couch. Willis is known two of the
- 9:23Speaker 5: men since they were in high school and the other
- 9:25Speaker 5: is a friend. Willis wakes up later and doesn't see
- 9:27Speaker 5: the guys, so he assumes they took off and heads
- 9:30Speaker 5: to bed. He leaves the doors unlocked so the guys
- 9:32Speaker 5: can come and go as they please.
- 9:34Speaker 1: Okay, right there, back to you, Jenn Smith joining us
- 9:37Speaker 1: from Daily Mail. He leaves the doors unlocked, but when
- 9:41Speaker 1: the fiancee got there, everything was locked up tight.
- 9:46Speaker 3: Very very strange, And I want to go back to
- 9:49Speaker 3: his story about when he goes to sleep, Wendy leave.
- 9:52Speaker 3: This has changed quite a few times since this story
- 9:56Speaker 3: came across all of our guests. Now he has this
- 9:58Speaker 3: an attorney where I spoke.
- 10:00Speaker 1: Yet, wait a minute, did you say he's lawyered up?
- 10:02Speaker 3: He is lawyered up, Nancy.
- 10:04Speaker 1: Okay, So initially.
- 10:06Speaker 3: He claims, I left them all to hang out in
- 10:08Speaker 3: the living room and I go upstairs to bed. Now
- 10:12Speaker 3: the story is I waived them goodbye, saw them out
- 10:15Speaker 3: the house, then returned to the couch where I crashed.
- 10:19Speaker 3: Then at some stage went from the couch to my bedroom,
- 10:23Speaker 3: and sometime after that he believes they came back to
- 10:28Speaker 3: hang out because they didn't want to go elsewhere to
- 10:31Speaker 3: a bar. And that's when he's claiming there was whatever
- 10:34Speaker 3: happened happened. But this timeline is very strange and it's
- 10:39Speaker 3: changed a lot. I mean, he says, I asked him, well,
- 10:42Speaker 3: how did they get back in if you've gone to bed? Oh,
- 10:44Speaker 3: I left the doors unlocked, But like you right, literally
- 10:47Speaker 3: point out when the fiance shows up two days later,
- 10:50Speaker 3: she can't get in the house.
- 10:51Speaker 1: Okay, he's wait. One of the stories is that they
- 10:56Speaker 1: watched the game, they made plans to buy tickets for
- 10:58Speaker 1: the next game, and the three friends left and he
- 11:04Speaker 1: went to sleep on the sofa, then later went to
- 11:05Speaker 1: his bed. The other story is that he went to
- 11:10Speaker 1: bed and he left them all down there partying. Is
- 11:14Speaker 1: that right? Or did see saying they left and then
- 11:17Speaker 1: they came back?
- 11:18Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. The initial story was, and this is
- 11:21Speaker 3: coming from his lawyer, that he went to bed leaving
- 11:25Speaker 3: them there, and then it changed yesterday to no, no, no,
- 11:29Speaker 3: I misspoke. What I meant to say was he waved
- 11:31Speaker 3: them off the last He then fell asleep on the
- 11:34Speaker 3: couch and then later goes up to bed and they
- 11:35Speaker 3: must have come back somehow.
- 11:42Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace according to those clothes. To
- 11:50Speaker 1: Jordan Willis, there have been quote no news or developments
- 11:55Speaker 1: that it is quote very frustrating and we quote don't
- 12:00Speaker 1: know what the hold up is. Jordan Willis's camp is frustrated.
- 12:05Speaker 1: What about the victims' families? I don't think frustrated is
- 12:10Speaker 1: strong enough of the word to describe how they must feel.
- 12:14Speaker 1: The mom says heart broken. What exactly happened? On January
- 12:20Speaker 1: ninth To doctor Jory L. Craften, joining US psychologist's former
- 12:25Speaker 1: law enforcement now faculty at Saint Leo University and consultant
- 12:29Speaker 1: with the Blue Wall Institute. Doctor Jory, thank you for
- 12:32Speaker 1: being with us. You know, I remember distinctly, crystal clear,
- 12:40Speaker 1: the last time I saw my fiancee alive, the day
- 12:43Speaker 1: he was murdered. He drove out of my driveway. I
- 12:47Speaker 1: was living with my parents. He held his left arm
- 12:53Speaker 1: out of his car on his way back where he
- 12:56Speaker 1: lived in Athens and waved at me. That's the last
- 13:02Speaker 1: time I saw him. I remember the last time I
- 13:06Speaker 1: saw my dad before he passed away. But this guy
- 13:12Speaker 1: seems to have a hard time remembering exactly when he
- 13:16Speaker 1: saw his friends alive. They're all dead now.
- 13:19Speaker 6: I would take two different perceptions of this. You know
- 13:25Speaker 6: that he's changing his story is one, and he may
- 13:28Speaker 6: have used like a sleep aid, you know, and the
- 13:31Speaker 6: sleep aid helps him.
- 13:32Speaker 7: Go to sleep, but it also kind of.
- 13:35Speaker 6: Affects memory, the ability to form memories.
- 13:39Speaker 7: And that comes from you know, once you get into
- 13:41Speaker 7: a deep sleep, that's where memories are really getting organized
- 13:44Speaker 7: and range sleep certain medications like an ambient There's been
- 13:49Speaker 7: a lot of research about ambient behavior, people falling asleep,
- 13:52Speaker 7: getting up and doing things and not remembering.
- 13:55Speaker 1: Are you talking about him taking some sort of a
- 13:58Speaker 1: sleep aid or some type of medicine like cough medicine
- 14:02Speaker 1: that would make him groggy and some ambulant. Yes, okay,
- 14:06Speaker 1: you know what I want to follow up on that,
- 14:09Speaker 1: Jen Smith dlimil dot com. Is there any mention of
- 14:13Speaker 1: a sleep aid or any type of medication that would
- 14:17Speaker 1: make him let me just say groggy as a vernacular
- 14:22Speaker 1: for some ambulant state indu, Sir.
- 14:25Speaker 3: Nothing so far in answer. So one of the questions
- 14:27Speaker 3: I asked his attorney yesterday was specifically, were there any
- 14:31Speaker 3: drugs involved in the evening? Were there any drugs he
- 14:34Speaker 3: can buy the group by Jordan in the house.
- 14:37Speaker 1: He refused to answer, but so far nothing about anything.
- 14:40Speaker 1: Let's just say, Robertessen, No, nothing like that.
- 14:42Speaker 3: I mean, no Banaderyl, no mention of anything. He did
- 14:45Speaker 3: mention that they had been drinking, but nothing about any
- 14:48Speaker 3: kind of sleep aid or other types of legal drugs.
- 14:51Speaker 3: Nothing like that.
- 14:52Speaker 1: Is anyone remembering this so called cough syrup killer who
- 14:57Speaker 1: claimed he was some ambulant when he murdered his wife.
- 15:02Speaker 1: Take a listen to hour cut seventeen. This is Matthew
- 15:06Speaker 1: Phelps desperately calling nine one one that me exactly what happened?
- 15:14Speaker 8: I think that film?
- 15:17Speaker 6: What do you mean by that?
- 15:19Speaker 8: What happened? I adream? And then I spent on the license.
- 15:27Speaker 8: She stood on the floor.
- 15:30Speaker 7: How how.
- 15:32Speaker 8: I'm kind of blood all over me and there's a
- 15:35Speaker 8: bloody knife on the bed, and I think I did it?
- 15:39Speaker 1: You think you did it? Hell? Yeah, you did it? Listen?
- 15:43Speaker 8: Okay, is he is he awaken?
- 15:45Speaker 7: All right? Now?
- 15:46Speaker 8: What makes you think she's did? If you wait? She thought, breathed, Okay,
- 15:52Speaker 8: that the word god?
- 15:58Speaker 7: Okay?
- 15:58Speaker 8: Do you think he is bond beyond him?
- 16:00Speaker 6: Hip?
- 16:03Speaker 8: I'm too scared to get too close to her. Okay,
- 16:05Speaker 8: just down the.
- 16:06Speaker 7: Phone with me.
- 16:06Speaker 3: There, I'm mom, I'm here with you.
- 16:08Speaker 8: I'm here with you. I'm so scared.
- 16:13Speaker 1: I'm scared. Yes, Sidney, you better roll your eyes. She
- 16:17Speaker 1: rolled her eyes almost the same time I rolled my eyes. Hey,
- 16:20Speaker 1: can you find out how many times he stabbed?
- 16:22Speaker 6: Her?
- 16:23Speaker 1: Said? Okay? But wait, wait, wait, wait, but before you
- 16:25Speaker 1: do that, it ain't over yet. Have you noticed how
- 16:29Speaker 1: calm he is? Yeah? I think she's dead, but I'm
- 16:33Speaker 1: afraid to touch her. Really. Okay, more, when did you
- 16:37Speaker 1: when did you wake up?
- 16:40Speaker 8: I don't know, I took more medicine than I should have.
- 16:49Speaker 1: What made iticin DP?
- 16:51Speaker 8: That's that's a course. Eating cost some cold, of course cold,
- 16:59Speaker 8: because I know it can make you feel good. So
- 17:03Speaker 8: a lot of time they can't sleep at night.
- 17:08Speaker 1: Okay, reptising you're not guilty, Corse and HP, you're on
- 17:13Speaker 1: the docket. Sydney found out for me how many times
- 17:18Speaker 1: he had stabbed his wife? Does anybody just even want
- 17:21Speaker 1: to guess? You know, let me throw it to you,
- 17:23Speaker 1: justin Borman, I ain't gone to you yet, wild guess
- 17:26Speaker 1: how many times? Don't look it up?
- 17:27Speaker 8: I'm not looking it up.
- 17:30Speaker 4: I'm guessing twenty four?
- 17:31Speaker 1: Okay, good guess, because I was thinking nineteen. Doctor Kendall Crowns.
- 17:35Speaker 1: You haven't looked it up, have you?
- 17:36Speaker 6: I have not?
- 17:37Speaker 1: Okay, I had a feeling that laid back doctor Kendl
- 17:39Speaker 1: Crowns had not looked it up. Just give me a
- 17:41Speaker 1: wild guess. How many times did he mark? Did he
- 17:44Speaker 1: stab his wife while he was asleep? And for those
- 17:47Speaker 1: of you that can't see me, I'm absolutely using air quotes.
- 17:50Speaker 1: How many times? Just throw it out there, Dtor Crown's
- 17:53Speaker 1: good guess one hundred and twenty three? Oh, one hundred
- 17:58Speaker 1: and twenty three stab and he slapped through the whole
- 18:03Speaker 1: slee Take a listen to day Matt Yeah Right clime
- 18:09Speaker 1: online dot com.
- 18:10Speaker 9: Matthew Phelps is a twenty nine year old Bible College
- 18:13Speaker 9: graduate with a fascination for the movie American Psycho. He
- 18:16Speaker 9: calls nine one one just after one in the morning,
- 18:18Speaker 9: claiming his wife Lauren has been stabbed. He tells police
- 18:21Speaker 9: he took some cold medicine with corus sedon and went
- 18:23Speaker 9: to sleep. When he woke up, his wife was dead
- 18:26Speaker 9: and a knife was on the bed. Lauren Phelps had
- 18:28Speaker 9: been stabbed more than one hundred times, and even though
- 18:31Speaker 9: they find blood evidence at the scene, investigators determined that
- 18:34Speaker 9: Phelps cleaned up a lot of the blood before he
- 18:36Speaker 9: made the nine to one one call. During their investigation,
- 18:39Speaker 9: police find out Phelps has told friends he wonders what
- 18:41Speaker 9: it would be like to kill someone and he likes
- 18:44Speaker 9: to take cold medicine for fun. Phelps has charged with
- 18:47Speaker 9: first degree murder, and after trying to use the cold
- 18:50Speaker 9: medicine defense, he pleads guilty and his sentence to life
- 18:53Speaker 9: in prison without parole.
- 18:54Speaker 1: So doctor Jory Crawls and I'm so glad that you
- 18:57Speaker 1: brought up. Maybe he had what yeh, don't care. Don't care,
- 19:04Speaker 1: And as Jenn Smith is telling us, there's been no
- 19:07Speaker 1: mention of any sleep aid whatsoever. So let's get back
- 19:12Speaker 1: to what really happened. Who is this guy who is
- 19:15Speaker 1: the homeowner as he has been described, Jordan Willis take
- 19:19Speaker 1: a listen to investigative reporter Rachel Bania we Crime online
- 19:23Speaker 1: dot com.
- 19:24Speaker 10: Jordan Willis is an HIV researcher and protein scientist who
- 19:28Speaker 10: lives and works in his home in Kansas City, Missouri.
- 19:31Speaker 10: Willis is an accomplished scientist whose research into COVID and
- 19:35Speaker 10: HIV has been praised in the medical world. In interviews,
- 19:39Speaker 10: he describes his two pitbull mixes, Sadie and Daisy, as
- 19:42Speaker 10: the light of his life.
- 19:43Speaker 1: Okay, joining me is a renowned medical examiner, the chief
- 19:48Speaker 1: medical examiner in Ter County. That's Fort Worth Lecturer, University
- 19:52Speaker 1: of Texas Austin and Texas Christian University Medical School, Doctor
- 19:57Speaker 1: Kendall Crown's Doctor Crown say thank you for being with us.
- 20:00Speaker 1: What is a protein scientist?
- 20:03Speaker 11: A protein scientist they are the people that work with
- 20:09Speaker 11: developing immunizations and things of that nature. They're working at
- 20:13Speaker 11: like kind of a more cellular molecular level with the
- 20:16Speaker 11: actual proteins that make up our bodies.
- 20:20Speaker 1: Okay, could you just stop right there. I learned a
- 20:23Speaker 1: lot of Latin phrases in law school, but nothing about
- 20:26Speaker 1: what you just said. What just slow down speed limit
- 20:31Speaker 1: seventy five mph? Okay? Place.
- 20:33Speaker 11: What protein scientists is basically someone who is looking at
- 20:39Speaker 11: very detailed, minute molecular things that are associated with the body.
- 20:46Speaker 11: They're often associated with developing immunizations, in figuring out how
- 20:52Speaker 11: viruses work, things of that nature.
- 20:54Speaker 1: He sounds brilliant, right to figure out to research and
- 21:02Speaker 1: develop advancements in COVID nineteen immunizations and vaccines and for HIV.
- 21:13Speaker 1: I mean, am I getting that right? Jen Smith?
- 21:15Speaker 3: Yeah? Exactly. So that was a huge amoument of his research.
- 21:18Speaker 3: He celebrated in the field. Give them plenty of the interviews,
- 21:21Speaker 3: you know, A great education on thee A really promising
- 21:26Speaker 3: young scientist by all.
- 21:27Speaker 1: Ok okay, so can we get back to the three
- 21:31Speaker 1: dead bodies one on the porch. Let's get back to
- 21:36Speaker 1: what happened. Take a listen now to our friend Nicole
- 21:41Speaker 1: parton Crime Online.
- 21:43Speaker 2: Seeing a body on the back porch, still screaming Jordan
- 21:46Speaker 2: Willis's name. Clayton Mcguinnea's fiance calls police. Officers arrived to
- 21:51Speaker 2: find Willis in his underwear with an empty glass of
- 21:54Speaker 2: wine in hand. According to the victims' families, the other
- 21:58Speaker 2: two bodies were then found in the backyard. Jordan Willis
- 22:01Speaker 2: tells police he has no idea what happened.
- 22:05Speaker 1: What happened to the three Kansas City chiefs fans found
- 22:09Speaker 1: dead in Jordan Willis's backyard days past? Willis never notices them.
- 22:15Speaker 1: One of the victim's girlfriends have to find One of
- 22:19Speaker 1: the victim's girlfriend has to find the three dead bodies
- 22:23Speaker 1: in Willis's backyard. Okay now. Preliminary autopsy results showed that fentanyl, cocaine,
- 22:31Speaker 1: and marijuana were in the victim systems, but their families
- 22:36Speaker 1: are questioning Willis's alleged involvement in what happened, some of
- 22:41Speaker 1: them threatening to file lawsuits this while Willis's attorney says
- 22:47Speaker 1: that quote charges will be forthcoming. Huh based on conversations
- 22:54Speaker 1: with prosecutors, what do we know about facts that could
- 23:00Speaker 1: support charges? Justin boardman joining me Former Detective West Valley
- 23:05Speaker 1: CDPD Special Victims Unit now with boardman training and consulting. Yes, ma'am,
- 23:12Speaker 1: justin you're joining us out of Kansas. Was there what
- 23:18Speaker 1: was there any snow on that day that would have
- 23:21Speaker 1: been jan seven?
- 23:23Speaker 6: You know there was some snow.
- 23:26Speaker 4: The reports say that there was like an inch or two,
- 23:29Speaker 4: just barely a skiff if you.
- 23:31Speaker 1: Will, okay, let me absorb what you just said, because
- 23:34Speaker 1: if there were three feet of snow and there was
- 23:36Speaker 1: a body under there, maybe I could accept that the homeowner,
- 23:42Speaker 1: Jordan Willis didn't see it. Did you say a skiff?
- 23:46Speaker 6: A what a skiff?
- 23:48Speaker 4: A skiff? So an interstue of snow so not enough
- 23:52Speaker 4: to cover a body to where you would not see.
- 23:55Speaker 1: It much less one on the back porch, especially one on.
- 23:57Speaker 4: The back porch, and then others out in the yard.
- 24:00Speaker 4: When you look at the photographs from some of the
- 24:04Speaker 4: articles it has without the snow, but pictures of the
- 24:08Speaker 4: backyard there's any brush back there. It's pretty plain.
- 24:12Speaker 1: Is that true? Jen Smith is justin Borman, correct, he's
- 24:15Speaker 1: joining us from Kansas. What can you tell me?
- 24:17Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean it was pretty I think the temperature
- 24:19Speaker 3: and John seventh went to freezing, you know, thirty two fahrenheit.
- 24:23Speaker 3: But no indication of huge piles of snow that would
- 24:25Speaker 3: have concealed bodies. And you know, thirty two fahrenheit. If
- 24:29Speaker 3: that was going to kill you, you'd have to be
- 24:30Speaker 3: out there for a very long time. You'd have to
- 24:32Speaker 3: be nutritionally compromised and severely behudrated as well.
- 24:36Speaker 1: I think, why would they just be out there for
- 24:39Speaker 1: that long? Do we have a cod at jenn Smith
- 24:42Speaker 1: cause of death?
- 24:43Speaker 3: No, we don't, And obviously this is going to really
- 24:45Speaker 3: put the pieces of the puzzle together. The medical examiner
- 24:48Speaker 3: is yet to reveal cause of death, any form of
- 24:52Speaker 3: even the estimation about what happened. And crucially, we don't
- 24:56Speaker 3: have talk tocology yet for the three men who were
- 24:59Speaker 3: found and dead, and that could explain a huge amount,
- 25:02Speaker 3: but right now, no answer.
- 25:04Speaker 1: I don't know that it's really explaining anything for me,
- 25:07Speaker 1: because even if they had smoked some pot, even if
- 25:10Speaker 1: they had had some alcohol, that would not make them.
- 25:13Speaker 1: That would not induce them to stay out in freezing
- 25:16Speaker 1: temperatures and not come back in. That's right, or get
- 25:20Speaker 1: in their car or bang on the door anything, that's right? Yeah,
- 25:25Speaker 1: what more do we know?
- 25:26Speaker 9: Listen On Monday, January eighth, Jordan Willis claims he did
- 25:29Speaker 9: not leave his home at all. He would normally have
- 25:32Speaker 9: to take his dogs, Sadie and Daisy outside to do
- 25:35Speaker 9: their business, but they're all staying at his dad's place
- 25:38Speaker 9: without having to take the dogs out and not leaving
- 25:41Speaker 9: the house for any reason. Jordan Willis doesn't realize his
- 25:44Speaker 9: buddy's cars are still parked outside his house.
- 25:47Speaker 1: Let me understand something, Jen Smith joining us from dailymail
- 25:50Speaker 1: dot com, who has been breaking the news on this story.
- 25:54Speaker 1: So when the cops get there, he Saunders in in
- 26:00Speaker 1: his boxer shorts holding a glass of wine.
- 26:03Speaker 3: Yeah, he's holding an empty wine glass. Now, the victims
- 26:07Speaker 3: family took this to mean he was still drinking or
- 26:10Speaker 3: drinking that morning. He claims it was left over empty
- 26:14Speaker 3: glass from the night before that he was using for water.
- 26:18Speaker 3: But he is, you know by the looks of things
- 26:20Speaker 3: that just got out of bed in his box are shorts.
- 26:23Speaker 3: When the police arrives, he lets them in and they
- 26:25Speaker 3: find the three other bodies.
- 26:27Speaker 1: And that's January ninth, correct, that's January ninth, Yes, and
- 26:30Speaker 1: the party was January seventh.
- 26:31Speaker 3: Party begins at nine pm on January seventh. We know
- 26:35Speaker 3: that Willis says that the others left or he went
- 26:38Speaker 3: to bed at around two am, So we have all
- 26:41Speaker 3: day on of course, the remainder of the night January
- 26:44Speaker 3: seventh and eighth, all day January eighth, the night of
- 26:47Speaker 3: January eighth, and then the final discovery is on January
- 26:50Speaker 3: ninethe in the morning.
- 26:51Speaker 1: Man, that'd be all over this looking for receipts, I
- 26:54Speaker 1: mean looking for a digital record. What about a James
- 26:57Speaker 1: shell Nutt. You are a former cop, before you turn
- 27:00Speaker 1: defense attorney, I'm going to be all up in his text?
- 27:05Speaker 1: Did he order in? Did he do an instacart? Did
- 27:09Speaker 1: he leave? Did he leave the home? He didn't see
- 27:12Speaker 1: his friend's cars still part there. I'm just having a
- 27:15Speaker 1: hard time believing this.
- 27:17Speaker 4: I agree one hundred percent. Did he communicate with anybody
- 27:20Speaker 4: at all? Number two? You know, when you think about
- 27:22Speaker 4: phones nowadays and technology nowadays, a lot of times you
- 27:24Speaker 4: can tell us someone actually reads your text. So even
- 27:27Speaker 4: if he didn't proactively contact anyone, is there any indication
- 27:31Speaker 4: that he read other people's messages they received, whether it's
- 27:34Speaker 4: on Facebook, whether it's on his phone or some other methods.
- 27:37Speaker 1: You're right, You're absolutely right about those messages. I was thinking,
- 27:41Speaker 1: did he go out for pizza, Did he leave the house?
- 27:43Speaker 1: Did he go to an ATM? But we know more now.
- 27:47Speaker 1: Listen to Rachel Benia and Dave Mackett Crime Online.
- 27:51Speaker 10: As news starts to spread of the three friends freezing
- 27:53Speaker 10: to death in the backyard while their friend is asleep inside,
- 27:57Speaker 10: the families of the victims begin to speak out and
- 27:59Speaker 10: ask quest The biggest question for Jordan Willis is what
- 28:03Speaker 10: happened next?
- 28:05Speaker 5: Was?
- 28:05Speaker 10: Why didn't you answer calls, text messages and social media
- 28:08Speaker 10: messages from family and friends of the three men.
- 28:11Speaker 9: The Daily Mail reports. Willis insists he spent the next
- 28:14Speaker 9: two days in his home, not thinking anything of the
- 28:16Speaker 9: fact that his friend's cars were still outside, and only
- 28:19Speaker 9: learned they died when the fiance of one of the
- 28:22Speaker 9: men broke into the house on January ninth in the
- 28:24Speaker 9: hopes of finding him.
- 28:25Speaker 1: The changing stories or a problem and Jenn Smith Daily
- 28:29Speaker 1: Mail do we know, as shall not pointed out whether
- 28:34Speaker 1: he was reading those texts and those online messages.
- 28:39Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean this is going to be huge once
- 28:42Speaker 3: it's corporately proved. He says that he did not see him.
- 28:46Speaker 3: We don't know yet. The messages predominantly were on Facebook, Messenger,
- 28:51Speaker 3: which you can tell whether or not someone has read
- 28:53Speaker 3: your message. So the families haven't indicated specifically whether or
- 28:58Speaker 3: not they got that you know, read feat but you could,
- 29:02Speaker 3: for the sake of argument, see that the relatives of
- 29:06Speaker 3: you know, your dead friend we're trying to contact you
- 29:08Speaker 3: is just not simply not open the message. We don't
- 29:11Speaker 3: know is the answer to your question acy whether or
- 29:13Speaker 3: not he opened the messages. All we know is he
- 29:16Speaker 3: says he didn't see them and only saw them after
- 29:20Speaker 3: the police came to his film on January night and
- 29:22Speaker 3: the bodies were fine.
- 29:23Speaker 1: I'm curious as to what his reaction was when he
- 29:27Speaker 1: realized all three of his friends are dead.
- 29:30Speaker 3: Well, he's been he himself actually has not spoken to
- 29:34Speaker 3: the media. He has actually moved out of this house now.
- 29:37Speaker 3: He's deleted all of his social media accounts. So all
- 29:39Speaker 3: of the communication about how he's feeling, what he's thinking,
- 29:42Speaker 3: is coming through this attorney, And the attorney tells me
- 29:46Speaker 3: that he is, you know, devastated, anxiously awaiting more information
- 29:50Speaker 3: from the police about how his friends died, insistence that
- 29:54Speaker 3: he wanted no harm to come to them, that they
- 29:56Speaker 3: had the plans to go to the next chief game.
- 29:59Speaker 3: But he has what else, is yet to make any
- 30:01Speaker 3: kind of public statements or give any interviews about this.
- 30:06Speaker 3: I mean, I think all of us have so many
- 30:09Speaker 3: un answered questions that if he just answers them with
- 30:13Speaker 3: the truth, it would explain a lot. But he hasn't
- 30:17Speaker 3: said anything. He's relying on his attorney to do.
- 30:19Speaker 1: The talking for m I find that curious as well. Guys,
- 30:22Speaker 1: it's not the first time someone claims they slept through
- 30:28Speaker 1: a death. Take a listen to our cut sixty from
- 30:31Speaker 1: crime Online.
- 30:32Speaker 9: Forty two year old Barbara Woods is at home and
- 30:34Speaker 9: bet asleep with her husband when her son in law,
- 30:36Speaker 9: Kenneth Parks, sneaks into the bedroom, stabs and chokes her husband,
- 30:40Speaker 9: then turns his rage on her, using a tire iron
- 30:43Speaker 9: to beat her about the head and a knife to
- 30:45Speaker 9: stab her four times, causing her death. Parks is charged
- 30:49Speaker 9: with the murder, and at trial, his attorney claims that
- 30:52Speaker 9: on the night of the killing, Kenneth Parks was plunged
- 30:55Speaker 9: into a deep, deep sleep. His next memory is seeing
- 30:59Speaker 9: his mother in law's face. The attorney said he then
- 31:02Speaker 9: regained consciousness and fled the house and drove to a
- 31:05Speaker 9: nearby police station. According to his attorney, the twenty four
- 31:09Speaker 9: year old Kenneth Parks was sleepwalking as he drove the
- 31:12Speaker 9: fourteen miles to his mother in law's house and killed
- 31:16Speaker 9: her in bed, wounding his father in law. The jury
- 31:19Speaker 9: agreed and Parks was acquitted.
- 31:21Speaker 1: That's true. Barbara Woods at home asleep with her husband.
- 31:26Speaker 1: Her son in law drives fourteen miles to their home,
- 31:32Speaker 1: he says, in his sleep, murders the mother in law
- 31:37Speaker 1: and father, beating them with a tire iron, killing the
- 31:41Speaker 1: mother in law, wounding the father in law, and he
- 31:45Speaker 1: was acquitted. That's right, Kenneth Parks. I'm having a hard
- 31:52Speaker 1: time letting that so ken. But there's more. Take a
- 31:57Speaker 1: listen to our cut twenty one.
- 31:59Speaker 9: Living in a restory home in Buffalo, New York, while
- 32:01Speaker 9: attending the University of Buffalo, Elena's Abel and her roommates
- 32:05Speaker 9: go to a party at the Sigma Kay fraternity not
- 32:07Speaker 9: far from their house. One of the roommates headed home
- 32:10Speaker 9: earlier than the rest and by the time Zabel made
- 32:12Speaker 9: it back to the house, the door was locked and
- 32:14Speaker 9: she didn't have a key. Zabel climbs through a bathroom
- 32:17Speaker 9: window and notices a weird smell calling out for her roommate.
- 32:21Speaker 9: She doesn't get a reply, but here's heavy breathing and
- 32:24Speaker 9: thinks her roommate is asleep, so she goes to betterself.
- 32:27Speaker 9: Her roommate isn't sleeping at that very moment, she's being
- 32:30Speaker 9: brutally attacked. Hours later, Zabel awakes and finds her roommate
- 32:34Speaker 9: clinging to life. Nine one one is called and the
- 32:36Speaker 9: roommate is rushed at the hospital, where she spends months
- 32:39Speaker 9: in a coma and a recovery that was very long.
- 32:47Speaker 1: Crime Stores with Nancy Grace. Now, according to sources, the
- 32:55Speaker 1: investigation into the deaths of the three Kansas City chiefs
- 33:00Speaker 1: is still on going now. Some people claim that Jordan
- 33:05Speaker 1: Willis was cleared months ago of any wrongdoing, but others
- 33:10Speaker 1: claim the investigation is ongoing in prosecution camps. It's believed
- 33:15Speaker 1: Willis is responsible and will likely be arrested. But that
- 33:20Speaker 1: has not happened. Three friends dead in the backyard, You
- 33:26Speaker 1: don't answer text messages, phone calls for now three days,
- 33:31Speaker 1: Jen seven, eight, and nine. When police get there on
- 33:34Speaker 1: the ninth. But the changing of the stories that shouldn't
- 33:40Speaker 1: change that what happened should not change. Jen Smith, What
- 33:46Speaker 1: is the most disturbing change in the story.
- 33:49Speaker 3: I mean, for me, it has to be the fact
- 33:51Speaker 3: that initially the story was he left them inside the hoes,
- 33:54Speaker 3: honey out downstairs, and then the second iteration of the
- 33:57Speaker 3: story is no, no, no, be least bade them goodbye,
- 34:01Speaker 3: and then at some stage they must have come back.
- 34:04Speaker 3: Changing stories could be down to a really ill equipped
- 34:08Speaker 3: or this incompetent attorney. Right, all we've heard on Jordan
- 34:12Speaker 3: Willis's behalf is coming from his attorney. Now, if Jordan
- 34:15Speaker 3: Willis has his story straight and he's letting his lawyers
- 34:18Speaker 3: do all the talking and the lawyer is changing the story,
- 34:21Speaker 3: it's in his best interest to get out there and
- 34:24Speaker 3: set the record straight. But if it is the case
- 34:26Speaker 3: that he's been changing his story to his lawyer, who
- 34:29Speaker 3: has been, you know, contemporaneously changing it to the press,
- 34:33Speaker 3: that's going to be hugely problematic for him down the lane.
- 34:36Speaker 3: If there's a criminal.
- 34:37Speaker 1: Case, guys, he says he slipt through the whole thing
- 34:40Speaker 1: and had no idea what was going on. But others disagree.
- 34:44Speaker 1: Many others disagree. Take a listen to our fourteen with
- 34:48Speaker 1: the cole parton.
- 34:49Speaker 2: John Pisserno and attorney representing Willis, said his client had
- 34:53Speaker 2: no idea his friends were dead until police knocked on
- 34:57Speaker 2: his door. The New York Post shared a Facebook host
- 35:00Speaker 2: from Kaylie Lettier, who wrote, my husband banged on his
- 35:03Speaker 2: door for twenty minutes. Latier continued, my friend banged on
- 35:07Speaker 2: his door and then busted a window and yelled and
- 35:11Speaker 2: announced her presence while she's inside and steal nothing from him.
- 35:16Speaker 2: Then the cops come ten minutes later, and he comes
- 35:19Speaker 2: out nonchalant in his boxers with an empty wine glass
- 35:22Speaker 2: in hand. Nothing is adding up. Dave Clay and Ricky
- 35:27Speaker 2: need and deserve justice.
- 35:29Speaker 1: Okay, this is what I'm trying to figure out, Jen Smith.
- 35:33Speaker 1: Do the relatives and friends of the victims believe Jordan Willis?
- 35:39Speaker 3: No, absolutely not, under no circumstances. They say that none
- 35:42Speaker 3: of this adds up. They need more information, and they
- 35:46Speaker 3: are devastated at the not only their deaths, but the
- 35:50Speaker 3: lack of information from him, someone who had apparently been
- 35:54Speaker 3: friends with them since they were at high school, who
- 35:56Speaker 3: would know their their families. I'm from the police, you know,
- 36:00Speaker 3: from the get go, if we said nothing to see here,
- 36:03Speaker 3: no fil play, We're going to carry on our investigation.
- 36:07Speaker 3: But we have no reason to believe anyone is in danger,
- 36:10Speaker 3: nor do we have any reason to believe Jordan will
- 36:12Speaker 3: do anything wrong. Making that kind of statement before you
- 36:16Speaker 3: have a cause of death, they may have been a
- 36:19Speaker 3: bit hasty there. And the families are you rightfully questioning
- 36:24Speaker 3: why they are so comfortable stating that there is no
- 36:27Speaker 3: foul play when the investigation isn't complete. We don't even
- 36:30Speaker 3: have a cause.
- 36:30Speaker 1: Of death yet, Doctritional Craon's chief medical Examiner Terran County
- 36:34Speaker 1: fort Worth. If the bodies became frozen, would that affect
- 36:41Speaker 1: finding out a CEO D cause death?
- 36:44Speaker 11: No, Actually, the cooling or the freezing of the bodies
- 36:48Speaker 11: will slow down decomposition and actually prevent decomposition so that
- 36:52Speaker 11: it will maintain the body itself, so they it won't
- 36:57Speaker 11: alter a cause of death at all. One thing you
- 37:00Speaker 11: have to think of with three individuals dying suddenly, there
- 37:03Speaker 11: has to be a commonality between all three of them
- 37:06Speaker 11: in an environmental factor of the fact that they're all healthy.
- 37:10Speaker 11: I just can't think that they wouldn't get themselves out
- 37:12Speaker 11: of a cold situation. So, you know, could it be drugs?
- 37:16Speaker 11: Could it be something else? And you also have to
- 37:18Speaker 11: throw in there.
- 37:19Speaker 7: You have a.
- 37:19Speaker 11: Research scientist and his three friends are all now dead.
- 37:22Speaker 11: It's all very odd.
- 37:24Speaker 1: Yes odd. There's definitely smoke, but is there fire? I
- 37:29Speaker 1: believe that you can sleep through something, a crime happening
- 37:36Speaker 1: in the next room or right above you. What about
- 37:41Speaker 1: the roommates of the Idaho students in the Brian Coburger
- 37:46Speaker 1: murder case. Take a listen to Dave mac.
- 37:49Speaker 9: Dylan Mortenson, and Bethany Funk. We're both home when Brian
- 37:52Speaker 9: Coberger allegedly snuck into their home in the early morning
- 37:55Speaker 9: hours and stabbed Matty Mogan, Kayleiganzavez, Xanichronodle, and Ethan Shapen
- 37:59Speaker 9: to death and their beds. The New York Posts reported
- 38:02Speaker 9: the two women were texting each other while the murders
- 38:05Speaker 9: were happening, and Dylan Mortenson came face to face with
- 38:08Speaker 9: the killer right after the attack and gave a description
- 38:11Speaker 9: of the alleged murderer, saying he was wearing black and
- 38:14Speaker 9: had bushy eyebrows. This information caused a lot of online attacks,
- 38:18Speaker 9: with people wondering why if they were home and awake
- 38:21Speaker 9: during the attacks and Mortensen saw the man dressed in black,
- 38:25Speaker 9: why did it take hours before police were called.
- 38:28Speaker 1: We're waiting to hear answers to that. There have been
- 38:32Speaker 1: a lot of suggestions online amongst trolls that the two
- 38:37Speaker 1: surviving roommates actually had something to do with the murders.
- 38:41Speaker 1: That's not true. I can emphatically state that is not true.
- 38:45Speaker 1: These two girls had nothing to do with those four murders.
- 38:50Speaker 1: But what about this case? Okay, Doctor Jory crass In, psychologist,
- 38:54Speaker 1: former law enforcement, now faculty Saint Leo University, what do
- 38:58Speaker 1: you think.
- 38:59Speaker 12: Really, there's got to be a commonality something in their deaths,
- 39:03Speaker 12: maybe like drugs or something, some kind of a drug
- 39:07Speaker 12: that odd. Possibly, but you know, certain types of drugs,
- 39:11Speaker 12: you know, like fentanyl you could tell from the bodies. Possibly,
- 39:15Speaker 12: But if they're frozen, they're going to be just kind
- 39:17Speaker 12: of locked in that state.
- 39:19Speaker 1: That we don't have any reason to think these guys
- 39:22Speaker 1: were using drugs. Shawn, what do you think?
- 39:25Speaker 4: All right? I'm in total agreement that there's a commonality.
- 39:28Speaker 4: You know, when you talk about drugs, you know, you
- 39:30Speaker 4: also talk tell you know what.
- 39:32Speaker 1: I forget the commonality? All right, that's not really telling
- 39:35Speaker 1: me anything. Yes, they probably all were killed the same way.
- 39:40Speaker 4: Well, we've talked a lot about drugs.
- 39:41Speaker 1: I haven't talked a lot about drugs because nobody said
- 39:44Speaker 1: they were using drugs.
- 39:45Speaker 4: Well, you know, we've talked about whether or not something
- 39:48Speaker 4: could have been ingested, and the bottom line is that
- 39:50Speaker 4: could be drugs, but it could be a poison as well.
- 39:53Speaker 1: I'm sorry, am I the only one that sees the
- 39:57Speaker 1: elephant in the room. A man aims he's totally unaware
- 40:02Speaker 1: of search efforts for three of his friends. They are
- 40:07Speaker 1: there for three days Jan seven, eight and nine. His
- 40:13Speaker 1: story is changing. They're dead. Was on the back porch, Hello,
- 40:18Speaker 1: you can see it from inside. The other two are
- 40:21Speaker 1: out in the garden. And he says he knew nothing.
- 40:26Speaker 1: What that doesn't make sense to me, Jenn Smith, could
- 40:30Speaker 1: you help me please? I mean, you want me to
- 40:32Speaker 1: believe three guys go in the backyard and drop dead.
- 40:35Speaker 3: No, I don't think that's what happened. And I think
- 40:37Speaker 3: what we we're trying to get on here is both
- 40:40Speaker 3: could be he could have, you know, lied about not
- 40:44Speaker 3: knowing anything, and he could have died of some kind
- 40:47Speaker 3: of accidental overdose.
- 40:48Speaker 6: You know.
- 40:49Speaker 3: Different type of recreational drug leads to fencel PhD synthetic drugs.
- 40:54Speaker 3: Is there a scenario in which all of the men
- 40:57Speaker 3: are taking drugs, perhaps supplied by Yard Willis or someone else,
- 41:02Speaker 3: which the three of them end uh dying and Jordan
- 41:06Speaker 3: Willis panics and doesn't alert antiviity. Is that a possibility?
- 41:09Speaker 3: We don't know. I want to empacicate state that the
- 41:12Speaker 3: sleep are not saying that that is what's happened. But
- 41:15Speaker 3: he could have concealed the fact that his friend died
- 41:18Speaker 3: of an accent of drug overdose without actually murdering them
- 41:21Speaker 3: or doing something you know, more violent to them, just
- 41:24Speaker 3: for the sake of panic and protecting his.
- 41:27Speaker 1: Science career, well showing up when police are standing there.
- 41:31Speaker 1: I mean, have you ever seen the program Cops, Because
- 41:37Speaker 1: there'll be a guy sitting in his easy chair in
- 41:39Speaker 1: the den throwing back a beer and cops come running
- 41:43Speaker 1: through the house and he just watches him go by,
- 41:45Speaker 1: keeps watching TV like that's normal. I mean, this guy
- 41:48Speaker 1: strolls in in his underwear with a wine glass. I
- 41:52Speaker 1: don't think that's a good look. One thing that is
- 41:56Speaker 1: to his defense is that there was no obvious sign
- 42:01Speaker 1: of foul play on the three bodies. They weren't shot,
- 42:05Speaker 1: they weren't bludgeoned dead. There was nothing to indicate they
- 42:09Speaker 1: had been murdered. So how do you wake up and
- 42:12Speaker 1: your three friends cars are parked outside your house, Your
- 42:17Speaker 1: phones are full of messages and texts looking for your
- 42:22Speaker 1: three friends in they're on your back porch, in your garden,
- 42:26Speaker 1: and you don't know how did that happen. Of course,
- 42:31Speaker 1: Jordan Willis through his lawyer and sints he had nothing
- 42:34Speaker 1: to do with this. Any claims are all just allegations.
- 42:39Speaker 1: There have been no charges as of now. We wait
- 42:45Speaker 1: as justice unfolds in the case of three Kansas City
- 42:49Speaker 1: chiefs fans found dead in a friend's backyard. Good Bye friend,
- 43:00Speaker 1: Bo