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Speaker 8: authority that has ordered all TV and radio stations to
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Speaker 8: halt coverage off the ongoing June twenty fifth anniversary protests.
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Speaker 8: in ma Too Town that's Machacos County, a med ongoing
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Speaker 8: protests to commemorate the June twenty twenty four protests victims.
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Speaker 8: And also also we do have from Cambo Town youth
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Speaker 8: of what's really going on here on the two five four, Nairobi, Kenya.
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Speaker 7: But the main topic of the day is basically the
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Speaker 7: June twenty fifth.
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Speaker 8: After month in regards to what happened last year on
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Speaker 8: this very day, and also globalization and our African culture.
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Speaker 8: The question is as globalization tunished our African culture. That's
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Speaker 7: And I can say yes and no.
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Speaker 8: with what's really happening in regards to what globalization means.
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Speaker 8: But it should definitely not tannish our African culture. I
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Speaker 8: about the aftermanth of June Johnny Fee that is basically
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Speaker 8: an adversary of what really happened last year during the
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Speaker 7: That's what this Politicians actually say in the public, but
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Speaker 8: after we did have one of our heroes, we actually
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Speaker 8: his head in the cell, which was literally a lie.
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Speaker 7: We did have the.
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Speaker 8: CCTVs at Bagati Hospital showcasing that he was actually brought in.
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Speaker 7: Dead.
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Speaker 8: We saw that, and it's because he was actually beaten
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Speaker 8: up with the he was beaten up by the prisoners.
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Speaker 8: He was actually given one of the junior police officers
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Speaker 8: was actually given orders to tell some of the prisoners
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Speaker 8: where the late Albert or John was taken to actually
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Speaker 8: beat him up. It actually shows that this is something
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Speaker 8: that always happens. But remember I talked about trigger. We
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Speaker 8: all did have the trigger that happened last year during
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Speaker 8: the finance bill, right, and now this happened, and actually
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Speaker 8: broad are basically steered up a little anger in regards
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Speaker 8: to the fact that we do not have better leaders
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Speaker 8: something we do know literally no and people are super tired.
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Speaker 8: Before she had the videos of what's really happening on
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Speaker 8: the ground, let's listening to some of the activists.
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Speaker 7: We definitely do know.
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Speaker 8: The activists that we do know here in the two
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Speaker 8: five Honariobi Kenya talking about.
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Speaker 7: The after month of the protests.
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Speaker 8: on to the next conversation and let's pop with your return.
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Speaker 9: This week on the seventy seven percent Street Debate.
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Speaker 3: I have been too marchealist to funerals.
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Speaker 10: I have seen it and every family morning and crying
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Speaker 10: out for their child fear.
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Speaker 9: You have to be upload something, expect.
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Speaker 11: Our future is on the line, Our present is what
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Speaker 11: the line, so we have to come and say we're
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Speaker 11: not going to watch as you do whatever you want.
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Speaker 11: Most of us didn't even know our MPs, but because
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Speaker 11: of that financial because of the protest.
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Speaker 3: We're all involved.
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Speaker 12: Hello and welcome back to the seventy seven percent Street
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Speaker 12: Debate this week. We are back in my hometown, Kenya's capital, Nairobi,
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Speaker 12: and these streets were shaken on the twenty fifth of
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Speaker 12: June twenty twenty four when young people are get by
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Speaker 12: a controversial finance bill breached the gates of Parliament, and
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Speaker 12: a year later, we're here to ask if their demands
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Speaker 12: were met, if they were indeed worth it. Well, who
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Speaker 12: better to answer those questions for me than some fellow kenyons.
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Speaker 12: And before we even begin, let me just start by
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Speaker 12: reading a temperature in the room here or outside. How
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Speaker 12: many people attended the protest last year on twenty fifth
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Speaker 12: of June. Let's see by show of has So let's
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Speaker 12: start with you, honeyfer, because you've sort of become post
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Speaker 12: to the protest, one of the faces of this movement.
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Speaker 12: But before we continue, just give us a quick look
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Speaker 12: at why the protests happened in the first place.
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Speaker 3: I think the finance bill was a catalyst.
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Speaker 10: It was anger, bitterness, semen for years and years, inequality, corruption,
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Speaker 10: it was just everything combined. The blow up finance blow
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Speaker 10: is a catalyst, and I would like to term it
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Speaker 10: as a youth quake.
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Speaker 3: Are youth quake?
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Speaker 12: So honey for I'm describing it here as sort of
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Speaker 12: the proverbial straw that broke the camels back. But when Jerra,
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Speaker 12: I know, oh, you've been an activist for many years,
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Speaker 12: and the issues that Hanifa is mentioneding they didn't start
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Speaker 12: last year.
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Speaker 3: So what is it that broke that coravels back? I
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Speaker 3: agree that it.
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Speaker 11: Is water that has been boiling for a long time,
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Speaker 11: and the finance bill was just we've had enough now
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Speaker 11: we've got to rise up and say, laughing into.
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Speaker 7: My secret, how are you doing?
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Speaker 8: Thank you Tony tag Man for also joining me right
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Speaker 8: away here and let's walk with irriturnalpia. Or are literally
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Speaker 8: on this day protesting for a better government and that
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Speaker 8: enough is enough.
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Speaker 11: Young people of this country were rising up against bad leadership, corruption,
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Speaker 11: the economic situation, the high cost of living, at the
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Speaker 11: face of opulence, at the political class, at the face
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Speaker 11: of we don't care, We're just gonna do whatever we want.
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Speaker 11: And the young people are saying, no, our future is
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Speaker 11: on the line, our present is on the line. So
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Speaker 11: we have to come and say we're not going to
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Speaker 11: watch as you do whatever you want. While our future
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Speaker 11: literary rates will our present is unbearable.
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Speaker 3: So I think people came to the streets to assert
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Speaker 3: the sovereignty of the ken and people.
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Speaker 12: Okay, so because it brought up the economy twice, let
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Speaker 12: me come to the economist. Just give us some hard data.
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Speaker 12: What was the state of the economy then and how
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Speaker 12: does it compare to the way things are now.
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Speaker 13: Well, I would say there's big tension that was there
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Speaker 13: last year the International Monetary Fund requesting Kenya to implement
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Speaker 13: some items.
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Speaker 3: In its bill.
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Speaker 9: The same tensions leads this up to today, So there's
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Speaker 9: really not so much that has changed.
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Speaker 13: But what we notice now what the government has been
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Speaker 13: trying to do is to turn down the targeted tax
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Speaker 13: areas are were affecting indivials, to try and focus on
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Speaker 13: the corporate But the challenge still remained because even if
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Speaker 13: you target business, it's a business that needs to give
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Speaker 13: the youth jobs.
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Speaker 12: Okay, so you say that not much has changed, but
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Speaker 12: the judgment's standing next to you might have a different opinion. Nathaniel,
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Speaker 12: how would you read the performance of the government between
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Speaker 12: the time of the protest and now has much changed.
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Speaker 14: I want to applaud the young people because I'm a
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Speaker 14: young person as well, for coming out unanimously in large
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Speaker 14: numbers to express what is constitutionally.
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Speaker 15: Their right to question and be involved in the government.
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Speaker 14: It is part of the Constitution of Kenia and that
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Speaker 14: Quota five on the access of information that government should
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Speaker 14: be able to give information for decision making. So secondly,
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Speaker 14: I am not the person who is capacitated to rate
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Speaker 14: government performers. Only the young people, the citizens can tell
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Speaker 14: us how we are performing, and we will be able
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Speaker 14: to know whether we are performing well or not in
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Speaker 14: the next election and in the continuous process of engagement
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Speaker 14: through the governance processes, for example, the burdon making process,
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Speaker 14: the Finance Bill twenty twenty five. So it is the
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Speaker 14: people who need to tell us what we are doing
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Speaker 14: a wother way to whether we are doing the correct
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Speaker 14: thing or not.
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Speaker 12: So let me ask the people, do you think much
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Speaker 12: has improved since twenty twenty four in June? You know,
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Speaker 12: the things that you were agitating for. Has the economy improved?
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Speaker 12: By show of hands?
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Speaker 7: Yes?
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Speaker 3: Has the state of politics improved? Let's see. Okay, Moses,
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Speaker 3: you raise your hand here. You're a member of the club.
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Speaker 3: Do you already have an opinion for me?
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Speaker 16: I wanted to take issue with the statement about waiting
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Speaker 16: until twenty twenty seven for us to know just how
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Speaker 16: well or how badly of the government has performed.
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Speaker 12: So twenty twenty seven for our global audience is when
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Speaker 12: the next election of ken is slated.
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Speaker 9: Correct. Correct.
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Speaker 16: And the reason I stake that is because the financial
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Speaker 16: process that's we're talking about right here, the financial year,
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Speaker 16: is an annual process. Therefore, we need to have an
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Speaker 16: annual process of analysis for the government as to how
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Speaker 16: well or how badly they performed.
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Speaker 12: I wonder what you think about that. You're a lawyer,
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Speaker 12: but you and when something very critical after the protest.
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Speaker 12: We'll talk about that in a second. But do you
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Speaker 12: think much has changed since those protests?
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Speaker 7: Not?
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Speaker 15: Really nothing has changed, maybe to the worst because we
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Speaker 15: still see it.
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Speaker 7: Definitely agree like everything became worse after that.
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Speaker 8: But also it is giving us a reason to actually
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Speaker 8: have to understand that we don't really.
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Speaker 7: Need a government like this, right the.
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Speaker 15: Politicians dishing out money, especially the president and the deputy president,
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Speaker 15: dishing millions of Kenya shillings in churches and at the
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Speaker 15: same time, you know, going back to the political or
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Speaker 15: rather the tribal cocones and mobilizing people through tribal lines.
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Speaker 15: At the same time, we have had some of the
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Speaker 15: things that we call out for, like changing the mean
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Speaker 15: health funding system, and to date nothing is actually working.
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Speaker 15: At the same time, we don't have vaccines in the
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Speaker 15: hospitals for young for newborns, so our newborns are not
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Speaker 15: about to be vaccinated yet.
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Speaker 9: The government is allocating six.
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Speaker 15: Hundred million Kenya shillings for MPs, but we don't have
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Speaker 15: medicine in the hospitals.
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Speaker 7: We do not have because literally that's not their pri already.
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Speaker 8: We do have some politicians who actually joined the protest,
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Speaker 8: the likes of Babu did that. We do have Colonzo
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Speaker 8: new Silka who actually joined the protest. And also we
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Speaker 8: do have the Chief Justice or the former Chief Justice
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Speaker 8: David Murraghar, who hopefully joined the protest today at the
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Speaker 8: CBD a location.
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Speaker 15: For you know, budgetary location for school fees and children
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Speaker 15: are now not going to do. They do not know
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Speaker 15: whether or not they're going to see the examination because
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Speaker 15: really there's no a location for the examination.
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Speaker 12: Let me let me let me come back to Nathania
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Speaker 12: here because it was his point and he suggested that
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Speaker 12: things are improving.
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Speaker 3: So when you hear this, what do you have to say.
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Speaker 3: By the way, you're not in government, you.
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Speaker 17: Just happen to advocate for the party that's I agree
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Speaker 17: with you, Massi here in regards to yes, in regards
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Speaker 17: to the people, like the NCAA is need them, the
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Speaker 17: members of parliament and you know they come with the
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Speaker 17: same promises.
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Speaker 8: Right now, people are super woke because they actually know
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Speaker 8: like whatever they're saying is just politics, so they're not
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Speaker 8: going to fulfill whatever they are actually preaching to you're
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Speaker 8: about when they're trying to actually get the votes. Yes,
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Speaker 8: at fast, you're super oblivious because you literally need hope.
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Speaker 8: But the thing for hope right now is gone. People
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Speaker 8: want to see things in action. They want they don't
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Speaker 8: want fake promises. They don't want you to preach hope
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Speaker 8: because they have been preaching hope since I actually knew
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Speaker 8: my name, right And the fact that people are understanding
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Speaker 8: are they're woke right now and they've actually read the
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Speaker 8: perpetual terrain of the same words that these politicians used
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Speaker 8: to actually get into the government, and when they get there,
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Speaker 8: nothing changes. They forget about y'all until the next election.
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Speaker 8: They come back with seeing songs and praises of doing
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Speaker 8: the same old things which they didn't do. So yes,
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Speaker 8: I definitely agree with the fact that people we did
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Speaker 8: put them there when you're actually asking for both, but
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Speaker 8: not anymore ruling the.
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Speaker 3: Country right now.
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Speaker 14: So first of all, I would admit from Finance Bit
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Speaker 14: twenty twenty four there was no adequate communication from the
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Speaker 14: part of government in terms of what are the proposals
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Speaker 14: in the Finance BIL tween twenty four. This led to
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Speaker 14: misinformation in some of the proposals, and disinformation is some.
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Speaker 9: Of those proposals.
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Speaker 12: But let's bring us to the present tense, Nathaniel, because
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Speaker 12: there's been a year since these things could have should
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Speaker 12: have happened.
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Speaker 3: In the meantime, are they communicating.
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Speaker 12: The things that they're doing as it is being claimed
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Speaker 12: that they're.
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Speaker 3: Not or they're actually not doing anything.
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Speaker 14: So, first of all, I've taken a note of what
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Speaker 14: Joshua Michaelindia said on the panet regarding the issue of
21:50
Speaker 14: their social insurance. Secondly, the socialist insurance initially had a
21:54
Speaker 14: lot of teating problems. Right now it is working for
21:57
Speaker 14: the impatient, and we removed the outpatient part of this.
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Speaker 9: The in patient is working smooth.
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Speaker 3: Okay, let me come back to honey for because it
22:04
Speaker 3: sounds to me listening.
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Speaker 12: To all of you that were back where we were
22:07
Speaker 12: a year ago in terms of the things that you're
22:09
Speaker 12: telling me are wrong with the country.
22:10
Speaker 3: So what did the protest achieve?
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Speaker 10: I think one of the biggest achievements of the protest
22:16
Speaker 10: to our people recognizing their voice.
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Speaker 4: It is draining, of.
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Speaker 8: Course, massively sing surely oppression making the wise man mad,
22:26
Speaker 8: and I give this joye.
22:28
Speaker 7: The hard.
22:30
Speaker 10: Sounds right, But it has showed us the way I
22:34
Speaker 10: am more patriotic, I am more cautious of things politically,
22:38
Speaker 10: and I am so brave now we can stand up
22:42
Speaker 10: to anything and anyone.
22:43
Speaker 3: Okay, brave can stand up to anything and anyone.
22:46
Speaker 12: Joshua, it certainly must not have felt like that for
22:48
Speaker 12: you after the protest when you were mysteriously abducted.
22:53
Speaker 3: Please tell us how that happened.
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Speaker 15: Yeah, a day after the twenty fifth of June where
22:57
Speaker 15: we preached Parliament, received calls from known people and the
23:03
Speaker 15: language is that you are seen somewhere and these guys
23:06
Speaker 15: are coming for you, so whenever you are leave And
23:08
Speaker 15: I stayed in their hands for two days, but of
23:12
Speaker 15: course during which time they could come for me in
23:15
Speaker 15: a room where they had thrown me into beating me
23:18
Speaker 15: and asked me, asking me questions with regards to the
23:21
Speaker 15: finance in twenty twenty four and asking me why I
23:24
Speaker 15: was involved in the protest and why I was mobilizing
23:27
Speaker 15: young people to, you know, to go to the streets.
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Speaker 7: I genuinely agree with you, Masiga, in regards to what
23:31
Speaker 7: we're saying.
23:32
Speaker 8: And some of these activists looking really shady lately, yes,
23:37
Speaker 8: because some of them are using the protests to get
23:40
Speaker 8: their way into the government. So we have to be really,
23:45
Speaker 8: really really clear on that and also be alert with
23:49
Speaker 8: some of the activists.
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Speaker 9: I don't know who told them.
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Speaker 15: I at some point paid for some young people some
23:56
Speaker 15: fair to go to town using a mat tattoo. And
23:59
Speaker 15: and and why how we were, you know, financing the
24:03
Speaker 15: printing of t shirts, banners and everything that we were using.
24:06
Speaker 15: And I really didn't have any other answer from God
24:10
Speaker 15: knows where that would satisfy them. And so when I
24:12
Speaker 15: were when when the answers they needed in their minds
24:14
Speaker 15: were not coming through them, they could, you know, beat
24:17
Speaker 15: me and hit me, and and and and that continued
24:20
Speaker 15: intermittently about four or five times. But ultimately they threw
24:23
Speaker 15: me into into some some river about one hundred kilometers
24:27
Speaker 15: from from the Nairobi where where they picked me up.
24:32
Speaker 14: So so that that was it for me.
24:33
Speaker 15: And and I think when when I speak about this,
24:37
Speaker 15: it gets very personal for me.
24:38
Speaker 7: And that's yes, I definitely agree with your massacre on that.
24:42
Speaker 8: And I actually in concurrent with your comment which says
24:47
Speaker 8: a family, you know how the roths child play the
24:51
Speaker 8: game found both sides, the activists.
24:54
Speaker 7: The activists and the government too. Yes, yes, yes, so I.
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Speaker 15: As an if I said, it has changed me completely.
25:04
Speaker 15: I used to be a very diplomatic, you know, calm concert,
25:09
Speaker 15: you know, reserved person and all that.
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Speaker 8: But right now I think, and in regards to my sorts,
25:16
Speaker 8: I believe we do have an activist like that who
25:19
Speaker 8: I believe is actually being funded to play.
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Speaker 7: On the card of being an activist, but not it's
25:28
Speaker 7: not really one.
25:30
Speaker 15: If you know, you know, the street language has got
25:34
Speaker 15: into me very perfectly well, and I think I identify
25:38
Speaker 15: more with the Martin Luther King Junior's quote that streets,
25:44
Speaker 15: or rather protest is the language of the unhaard. Then
25:47
Speaker 15: if no one is going to implement anything we are
25:49
Speaker 15: speaking about, we are going to go to the streets
25:52
Speaker 15: for that to be implemented.
25:53
Speaker 3: So it's very combative.
25:56
Speaker 12: One might even say confrontational language that we're hearing from
25:58
Speaker 12: Joshua and one might agree, you know, there's a reason
26:01
Speaker 12: for this, but coming from the kind of human rights commission,
26:04
Speaker 12: he's not the only one, right. What does the data
26:06
Speaker 12: show about the number of people who are abducted and
26:09
Speaker 12: the number of people who are killed during that time?
26:12
Speaker 9: Yes, huge numbers.
26:14
Speaker 18: The missing voices report that was released a few months
26:17
Speaker 18: ago indicate that that grew by about one forty five
26:21
Speaker 18: percent from twenty nineteen when that documentation started. That is
26:25
Speaker 18: our in trend, and particularly the twenty twenty four our
26:28
Speaker 18: finance building protests really resulted in the killings and also
26:33
Speaker 18: enforced disappearances of these people, which is very very sad.
26:37
Speaker 18: And as we speak about this, I think one of
26:39
Speaker 18: the things that we all need to not is that
26:41
Speaker 18: the gen Z I protest and.
26:42
Speaker 8: I actually agree that the Genesis are really wise as
26:45
Speaker 8: Sacre in regards to the fact that you've mentioned that
26:48
Speaker 8: how the Wrothschild actually play, they can or basically do
26:53
Speaker 8: fund both side the activists and the government too. And
26:57
Speaker 8: you're also saying that the gen Z should be all
27:00
Speaker 8: and wise definitely to actually realize.
27:03
Speaker 7: That also they do play these games and they will
27:06
Speaker 7: definitely fund the activists thinking that the activists.
27:11
Speaker 8: Are basically on our side, which the fact that they're
27:14
Speaker 8: being funded, they're not on our side.
27:15
Speaker 7: I definitely agree with you on that, and also we
27:18
Speaker 7: have to understand that this is our time.
27:20
Speaker 8: If you can literally feel like it's just time for change,
27:23
Speaker 8: it's time for an awakening, it's time for things to
27:26
Speaker 8: be better and you cannot escape that feeling if you're
27:30
Speaker 8: literally here in Africa.
27:33
Speaker 18: It's really led to the rising of youth activism and
27:38
Speaker 18: that is what we are seeing right now.
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Speaker 12: All right, let me invite Kelvin please join me at
27:42
Speaker 12: the front here because wearing the ken And flag and
27:46
Speaker 12: a very democratic patriotic message on his T shirt. And
27:50
Speaker 12: I'm very surprised because your brother was killed by people
27:52
Speaker 12: who are wearing the same flag.
27:54
Speaker 3: How do you feel about that?
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Speaker 19: It's feeling the human syny because we must protect our
28:01
Speaker 19: country and the government needs to protect its citizen, but
28:05
Speaker 19: the government ends up killing us when we say things
28:08
Speaker 19: are not well, we end up being killed silenced.
28:11
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, tell us a little bit about Brian, your
28:15
Speaker 3: late brother and what happened to him.
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Speaker 19: Oh, Brian was a very working person, hardworking boy who.
28:22
Speaker 4: Was my brother.
28:24
Speaker 19: So Brian went to the street to demonstrate to say
28:28
Speaker 19: that the finance bill.
28:31
Speaker 9: It's not what Kenyon's wanted.
28:33
Speaker 19: He went to the street at around for thirty because
28:35
Speaker 19: he didn't start the protest early.
28:37
Speaker 4: In the morning.
28:38
Speaker 15: In fact, I'm the one who was that who went
28:40
Speaker 15: early to the.
28:42
Speaker 9: Streets of Narrope to demonstrate.
28:44
Speaker 15: Then he came later, but around thirty minutes.
28:49
Speaker 4: Thirty minutes after he was shot dead.
28:53
Speaker 12: Now, when we spoke on the phone as we were
28:55
Speaker 12: preparing for this street debate, I asked you if the
28:58
Speaker 12: police have been in touched and you told me that
29:00
Speaker 12: the Independent Policy Ofversight Authority I POE has been in
29:03
Speaker 12: touch with you. Did you know that they've listed your
29:06
Speaker 12: brother's name as one of the cases that's already been investigated.
29:10
Speaker 19: I received a phone call from my aunt that I
29:12
Speaker 19: poured once the number of the wishness to.
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Speaker 8: Saying we shouldn't be out here thinking all these activists
29:21
Speaker 8: are down for us. I agree with you, they mostly
29:24
Speaker 8: are down for cash, and that's why we should definitely
29:29
Speaker 8: be alert with some of the activists.
29:34
Speaker 7: We should definitely do that.
29:36
Speaker 8: Also, I pour as you're saying looks weak too, is
29:38
Speaker 8: Massacres saying, because if you actually follow up on what
29:42
Speaker 8: they should be actually be following up, they're not actually
29:46
Speaker 8: following up as they should.
29:48
Speaker 7: I actually agree with you, massacre.
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Speaker 15: Tess what happened.
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Speaker 19: So the witness has refused to come out to witness
29:57
Speaker 19: fearing of his life and danger. But also it was
29:59
Speaker 19: offen job. So you see the government it's not what
30:03
Speaker 19: he's doing because he's a witness. Then he's given a
30:06
Speaker 19: job so that you can do it. You can be silent.
30:10
Speaker 3: I'd just like to let ue what happens.
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Speaker 7: And mostly if you're.
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Speaker 8: A public activitist, mostly literally known are you're the one
30:19
Speaker 8: who's actually steering one of these parties. As they said,
30:24
Speaker 8: there's one who's actually offered a job to be silent,
30:27
Speaker 8: actually literally.
30:31
Speaker 7: In regards to what's really happening.
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Speaker 8: I'm sorry, guys, we do have some riots outside our
30:36
Speaker 8: studio literally right now, but we're going to go on
30:40
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Speaker 8: Nutrition storey cents before you move for with the conversation.
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Speaker 7: There's a video.
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Speaker 8: Want to share about what's really happening, and people giving
33:06
Speaker 8: their opinions, recording the government of tenure.
33:09
Speaker 7: But thank you everybody for joiningmen live on TikTok.
33:14
Speaker 20: That's what we had. We have had three presidents so far.
33:16
Speaker 20: He's the first president, isn't it? All of those presidents?
33:20
Speaker 20: None of them so that it was fit to renovate
33:22
Speaker 20: the state House. But because he thinks that the state
33:24
Speaker 20: House is his home, which we are telling him it
33:27
Speaker 20: is not his home, time is up. That's why renovating, renovating, innovating,
33:32
Speaker 20: time is up. He has had one whole year, one
33:35
Speaker 20: whole year to change. The last time we had protests,
33:38
Speaker 20: he said there was there's a problem with communication. One
33:41
Speaker 20: year later, what has he done? One year later, they're
33:44
Speaker 20: planning to kill us tomorrow. There was an expose there
33:47
Speaker 20: yesterday at Katien, And how are you using our own
33:50
Speaker 20: taxes to come and kill us?
33:52
Speaker 4: Who do you think you are?
33:54
Speaker 3: Is it that you are praying different gods from you?
33:56
Speaker 3: Who do you think do you think that actually belongs
33:58
Speaker 3: to you? And that is the problem. We are not
34:00
Speaker 3: our parents, and that is where you keep going wrong.
34:03
Speaker 3: We are not our parents. We are people who are educated,
34:06
Speaker 3: who are educated. We are people who got the education
34:09
Speaker 3: of kback. That's why we are not afraid of you.
34:11
Speaker 3: We have nothing to lose. Can has become a place
34:13
Speaker 3: where it's how many presidents have we had.
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Speaker 7: We have had three presidents true of life and direct.
34:20
Speaker 7: Also another video, I thank.
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Speaker 2: You Sam, Yes, Mama, we don't unpleasing there.
34:33
Speaker 4: Imagine anytime from not so some of us, but anything
34:39
Speaker 4: from I'm excited, what supreme good? Come on the boy.
35:04
Speaker 14: I wanted to clog them with chapter till again tomorrow,
35:08
Speaker 14: same time.
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Speaker 9: Some pless some man sem advission, same guys.
35:17
Speaker 8: That's what's happening in regards to the practice that is
35:21
Speaker 8: happening here in the two five four Now Robi Kenya
35:24
Speaker 8: back to the main conversation as before or before I
35:30
Speaker 8: share the videos. What's what's really happening on the ground
35:34
Speaker 8: along More Avenue CBD.
35:37
Speaker 12: Audience know that we did invite the Independent Policing Oversight
35:40
Speaker 12: Authority I POWER, but unfortunately they weren't able to make it.
35:44
Speaker 3: But we did speak to them later and this is
35:46
Speaker 3: what they had to say.
35:47
Speaker 21: This is particular question about jen Z. We have sixty
35:51
Speaker 21: cases of death supportant of the killings for people who
35:54
Speaker 21: are hurning away and I was starting the back from
35:59
Speaker 21: the meetings. You will see some protests where people are
36:02
Speaker 21: shooting the head. It looks like an attack, I mean
36:07
Speaker 21: attack getted the attack, and so we feel that there
36:12
Speaker 21: must be much more better management of the public order
36:16
Speaker 21: and protests by the police.
36:18
Speaker 9: When you hear I.
36:19
Speaker 21: Say we have completed, I guess it means they've taken
36:22
Speaker 21: setting from all involved people, including the police of ass
36:26
Speaker 21: who are affected or who are who? Who are the
36:28
Speaker 21: ones who did the shooting? And then now they we
36:34
Speaker 21: send the fire to the DVP. So I mean it's
36:36
Speaker 21: after the DVP to do what other inns.
36:39
Speaker 9: Do on the prosecution.
36:40
Speaker 12: Calvin, by the way, thank you so much for sharing
36:42
Speaker 12: your story. But when theire long before the protest, you've
36:46
Speaker 12: heard about police brutality and incidences working with people on
36:50
Speaker 12: the ground, and evidently nothing's changed, nothing.
36:53
Speaker 15: Seems to have.
36:53
Speaker 11: I think it's a very sad reality that the finance
36:57
Speaker 11: built twenty twenty four actually brought out to the four
37:00
Speaker 11: for all kinds to see that extra judicial killings have
37:03
Speaker 11: been a reality, especially in the informal settlements of this
37:07
Speaker 11: country that have.
37:08
Speaker 7: Been on going on for years.
37:11
Speaker 3: That every other regym that has come.
37:12
Speaker 11: It's been extra judicial killings, extra judicial killings, and twenty
37:16
Speaker 11: twenty four made it a national discussion. Why is it
37:19
Speaker 11: that our police kill the young people of this country.
37:23
Speaker 11: We have documented so many cases with the Independent Policing
37:27
Speaker 11: Oversight Authority, we have gone to court. Not a single
37:30
Speaker 11: guess has gotten justice. So we are saying that as.
37:34
Speaker 8: Young cases always take a lot of time, like a
37:37
Speaker 8: long years years, then we have that conversation in the
37:41
Speaker 8: morning on the reasons why they actually prolonged these cases
37:47
Speaker 8: and actually did have the one and only more common.
37:51
Speaker 7: That's the Cabinet Secretary for.
37:55
Speaker 8: Security who actually stated quotes in quotes that but Kenyans
38:01
Speaker 8: have too much freedom.
38:02
Speaker 7: That's what he said. Kenyans have too much freedom.
38:08
Speaker 8: What do you mean? And the fact that he said
38:11
Speaker 8: they should be major, you know, they should take major
38:17
Speaker 8: takes in regards to how people are expressing themselves, not
38:23
Speaker 8: making it sound like, you know, people are literally fighting
38:27
Speaker 8: for what's right.
38:28
Speaker 7: And also it's super double sided.
38:31
Speaker 8: It's a double sided mentality because how many of this
38:34
Speaker 8: individual do we know, actually get away with a lot
38:38
Speaker 8: of dire, hideous things that they do. I can't even
38:42
Speaker 8: mention it here. But when it comes to us actually
38:46
Speaker 8: standing for what's right, these are literally fundamental truth that
38:51
Speaker 8: we're actually fighting for the rights.
38:54
Speaker 7: Of the people.
38:56
Speaker 8: Talk about abduction, people getting scraped up without a trace
39:02
Speaker 8: of how the case will without justice let me say that.
39:06
Speaker 8: But the fact that he said we have too much freedom,
39:09
Speaker 8: we don't actually have any freedom here.
39:12
Speaker 9: Right.
39:13
Speaker 8: We do have my secret saying they are stalling right.
39:17
Speaker 8: Rarely seldom with these families see justice.
39:20
Speaker 7: Thank you. They definitely do that. They don't actually follow
39:24
Speaker 7: up with these cases. They take years.
39:27
Speaker 8: We hear them actually preaching promises and giving up promises
39:32
Speaker 8: which are never literally followed up. Also, my secret is saying,
39:36
Speaker 8: I don't even blame workman. He takes orders. Dn'te Yes,
39:40
Speaker 8: he does, but also he's part of the government. The
39:44
Speaker 8: fact that he's agreeing and actually a part of this
39:47
Speaker 8: government is also a problem. You can always see no. Also,
39:52
Speaker 8: who does the backups top with? We actually do know,
39:56
Speaker 8: but you can always say no. You can always stand
39:59
Speaker 8: for us right without bending right. But as we move
40:06
Speaker 8: forward with other news and updates in regards to what's
40:10
Speaker 8: happening in Nairobi, we will have Kilifi County, Campbelltown also Mombassa, Kenya,
40:18
Speaker 8: Central Police Station, Nairobi. Before we go back to the
40:21
Speaker 8: main conversation, I will definitely share the videos shot videos
40:26
Speaker 8: as we get to the main videos of what's really
40:28
Speaker 8: happening right now at the Narobi CBD.
40:40
Speaker 7: It was really super faithful in the morning.
40:43
Speaker 8: Mombassa or people in Mombassa were actually part of the parties.
40:58
Speaker 7: That's what's happening in more also Cambo town.
41:09
Speaker 8: Everywhere, although they tried, they were actually blocking the roads
41:13
Speaker 8: at Jogo Road. But also people said they'll still will
41:17
Speaker 8: definitely head to town. They'll head to the CBD regardless
41:21
Speaker 8: as you call it. Also the situation in Mombassa, I've
41:24
Speaker 8: literally shared that, and also we see the situation at
41:28
Speaker 8: the Central.
41:28
Speaker 7: Police Station Narily. Yes, the mosquito. How are you doing now?
41:42
Speaker 7: Would you like some take this beautiful afternoon? Yes, Mombasa town.
41:47
Speaker 8: Yes, they decided to join us at last. I'm literally
42:06
Speaker 8: actually gathering at the Central Police Station AIB because we
42:10
Speaker 8: understand what really happened with the case of the late
42:14
Speaker 8: Albert drunk. You know what really happened, and that's why
42:18
Speaker 8: they gathered at the Central Police Station.
42:21
Speaker 7: Kits and Gell are also the situation going there right away.
42:26
Speaker 8: And also I'm gonna share a video before I share
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Speaker 8: the video of what's really happening, and there will be
42:31
Speaker 8: CBD of the former Chief Justice David Mahaga, who was
42:36
Speaker 8: part of the partist.
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Speaker 7: This very day.
43:01
Speaker 8: That's my da go over there who was part of
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Speaker 8: the project. We do have also, as I mentioned earlier,
43:08
Speaker 8: bab know who joins Narobi protest. People literally like this
43:33
Speaker 8: man right Massacre, you saying there you go. I rarely
43:36
Speaker 8: will this man say no when the cake is so big,
43:40
Speaker 8: chatter mix people cocky.
43:43
Speaker 7: I definitely agree with you, Missacre.
43:45
Speaker 8: Thank you again for the given Thank you actually being
43:48
Speaker 8: a guest here with me on Live on TikTok. Thank
43:52
Speaker 8: you join us for actually joining me Gioannie Dark number
43:56
Speaker 8: one and everybody was literally staying up with me right
44:00
Speaker 8: the way I can see Lee Love, how are you doing?
44:04
Speaker 8: Thank you for joining me here on Let's walk with
44:06
Speaker 8: everyton always talking about redefining Africa as we redefine ourselves.
44:29
Speaker 7: Yes, that was all happening when Babu joined the project.
44:34
Speaker 8: And as I say, Ali, we do have the Communication
44:36
Speaker 8: Authority that has ordered all TV and radio stations to
44:42
Speaker 8: halt coverage off the ongoing June twenty fifth anniversary process.
44:48
Speaker 7: Are you thinking what I'm thinking?
44:49
Speaker 8: Because if they're actually ordering all the TVs and radio
44:54
Speaker 8: station to halt coverage, they's.
44:57
Speaker 7: Something they don't want the world to know. Also maybe
45:01
Speaker 7: what they really want to do.
45:03
Speaker 8: But really, I'm so grateful because we do have a
45:06
Speaker 8: lot of people who are actually part of this protests, who.
45:09
Speaker 7: Actually courage their devices.
45:12
Speaker 8: To take coverage of what's really going down there at
45:16
Speaker 8: the Nairobi CBD, Nairobi, Kenya. I will definitely share a
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Speaker 8: video right away, right now of what's really happening on
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Speaker 8: the ground of the Nairobi Kenya right away before we
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Speaker 8: move forward. Thank you everybody for joining me right away.
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Speaker 8: My name is your return Longoria.
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Speaker 22: Our Diagos contest, the Manda Manda.
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Speaker 4: Man Man Man Man.
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Speaker 7: Okay, that's just a theme of what's really happening.
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Speaker 8: But right now, Nairobi life, we don't have thousands who
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Speaker 8: basically rallied in Kenya to mark to mark the anniversary
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Speaker 8: off June twenty feighth and also the finance will that
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Speaker 8: happened last year. That's literally the situation at the Nairobi
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Speaker 8: c Yeah, we do have Masika actually giving up his comments.
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Speaker 7: He's saying they are taking the tactic from Israel. Remember
47:15
Speaker 7: how Israel blew.
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Speaker 8: Up the national TV station of the Iranians, stopped the
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Speaker 8: flow of information. I definitely agree with you and thank
47:25
Speaker 8: you for amazing comments. Right there, Masida, that's actually a
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Speaker 8: Totuma center.
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Speaker 7: So that's the situation.
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Speaker 8: And then aerob CBD people are still in the street
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Speaker 8: actually protesting and basically remembering our she rules and heroes
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Speaker 8: regarding the twenty twenty full Finance Bill, which actually marks
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Speaker 8: a year right now of what really happened, and the
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Speaker 8: conversation before we wind up is our African culture is
48:50
Speaker 8: being erased by globalization. As I explained that earlier, I
48:55
Speaker 8: can say, if you understand everything to do with the
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Speaker 8: African identity, if you understand everything to do with civilization
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Speaker 8: and where it originated from, if you understand our cultures
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Speaker 8: and traditions and the power of melanine of who we are,
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Speaker 8: it shouldn't affect our cultures and traditions because the main
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Speaker 8: thing of what the Europeans have all been trying to
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Speaker 8: do is actually invade Africa, but also they want Africa
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Speaker 8: without Africans because they're still in our cultures, traditions, everything
49:42
Speaker 8: that we came up with. They've taken that to be
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Speaker 8: a part of what defines who they are, which is
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Speaker 8: not it. And it's so sad because they don't have
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Speaker 8: a history, they don't have a culture, they don't have
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Speaker 8: an identity. Whatever we think is what defines them is
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Speaker 8: what they actually stol from the African identity, actually the
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Speaker 8: African heritage.
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Speaker 7: Let's listen to this.
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Speaker 8: Video in regards to your question that I asked earlier,
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Speaker 8: are African cultures being a raised by globalization? And globalization
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Speaker 8: comes back to the African identity, culture and the fact
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Speaker 8: that civilization started from Africa.
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Speaker 9: This week on the seventy seven percent Street Debate, we're.
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Speaker 23: Speaking about the impact of westernization towards our daily lines.
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Speaker 9: As your Gandan, we keep.
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Speaker 3: Seeing that culture is then cultures. It's African who I read.
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Speaker 24: In their own counture and when pin twice for speaking
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Speaker 24: my local language, you know in those days days they
50:46
Speaker 24: would be put address on you, yeah, on you to indicate.
50:49
Speaker 15: That we have found speaking a local language in a compound.
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Speaker 24: They are being effect to decompaign African languages and local language.
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Speaker 7: Is so true.
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Speaker 8: The fact that we actually it's nice to learn other languages,
51:01
Speaker 8: like it's a good thing.
51:03
Speaker 7: But also.
51:05
Speaker 8: They've been trying to erode our dialects, our African dialects.
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Speaker 8: We do have Masika sayings and cleansing on the point.
51:15
Speaker 8: And Trump wants Congo's minerals at all costs. But he's
51:19
Speaker 8: trying to paint a picture like he's a peacemaker. It's
51:24
Speaker 8: the game they actually play. But we definitely understand what's
51:28
Speaker 8: really happening.
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Speaker 9: With this emparticran.
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Speaker 25: We're having this conversation in English for status and one
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Speaker 25: fable of culture, one fiber of culture is language. If
51:38
Speaker 25: we are having this conversation in English, what are we
51:41
Speaker 25: still trying to defend.
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Speaker 4: We've been having a talk that the woman is not
51:45
Speaker 4: supposed to eat chicken.
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Speaker 12: And it okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, let's settle
51:50
Speaker 12: this chicken.
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Speaker 3: Ugandas here and I'll just tak a kia. Because when we.
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Speaker 12: Had a conversation earlier, you said something very interesting about
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Speaker 12: what do you think the role of culture is in society?
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Speaker 3: So in your family, what role does culture play.
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Speaker 26: It plays a role when it comes to discipline, when
52:11
Speaker 26: it comes to morrows, when it comes to way of behavior.
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Speaker 26: So culture to get trooated into the young people, it
52:18
Speaker 26: has to begin from home. For example, me a learning
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Speaker 26: by tribe, I've I.
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Speaker 8: Actually agree with that starts from the household. She talks
52:28
Speaker 8: about behavior the way we live our lifestyle. It has
52:32
Speaker 8: two starts from the household. But also some parents actually
52:36
Speaker 8: have not grown in a household like that where our
52:42
Speaker 8: two African cultures and traditions are taught. The way of
52:45
Speaker 8: behavior is actually in growing. And actually, let me talk
52:51
Speaker 8: about dialects, communicating our own languages through African languages. You
52:58
Speaker 8: can see in a lot of household a lot of
53:01
Speaker 8: individuals are not brought up with that, and that's how
53:05
Speaker 8: our heritage or our original languages are actually fading away.
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Speaker 7: Which is not a good thing.
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Speaker 26: Now from Cassssa from Western Uganda. My mom is from
53:16
Speaker 26: the East. So when you get to see that whole combination,
53:19
Speaker 26: you think I'll know not to know my mother language. Yes,
53:21
Speaker 26: I know Lani. I can speak Langy fluent. When we
53:23
Speaker 26: know that you're Ghana, I can speak the language. But
53:25
Speaker 26: why am I able to do all this? Because my
53:28
Speaker 26: father told me from the one if you're go to
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Speaker 26: di Lani it anymore and you reply him, I'm fine,
53:33
Speaker 26: You're going to get a smack on your head.
53:35
Speaker 3: So if you're speaking of society.
53:36
Speaker 26: And the cultural leaders are speaking of them, the issue
53:39
Speaker 26: being with young Peo, but the issue is actually with them.
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Speaker 12: Okay, So before we address the issue in totality, I
53:45
Speaker 12: just want to understand, you know, because not everybody lives
53:48
Speaker 12: in a cultural home.
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Speaker 3: So what does that look like for you?
53:50
Speaker 12: Is that when you're having birthdays, when there's marriages, when
53:54
Speaker 12: do you really feel this culture?
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Speaker 26: Culture is actually felt during traditional ceremonies, that during amcolum
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Speaker 26: what they call himcola man, the wagandha the traditional marriage.
54:05
Speaker 26: So the only time I would know that Gomeci exists
54:07
Speaker 26: properly is when there's a traditional marriage.
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Speaker 3: And then these elders who tell us to dress like.
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Speaker 7: Not really mas secure, not at all.
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Speaker 8: A lot of individuals in your Gander have their own
54:20
Speaker 8: dialect because the fact that you're saying, is it English
54:24
Speaker 8: the national lingual in your Gander? Yes and no, because
54:28
Speaker 8: also you have a lot of your Gander to speak
54:31
Speaker 8: in their own.
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Speaker 26: Dialect traditions, and that they're actually dressed in that tradition.
54:36
Speaker 26: Where now that means that we are only shown, and
54:39
Speaker 26: we are meant to believe that culture shouldn't need be
54:41
Speaker 26: to be portrayed during traditional ceremonies. Right, if you can
54:45
Speaker 26: dressed in your skinny pants, I will actually send your way.
54:48
Speaker 26: But you cannot tell me to come for a grand
54:50
Speaker 26: party and you expect me. I'm dressed in ac What
54:53
Speaker 26: are you trying to tell me? Because that's why society
54:54
Speaker 26: has shown us.
54:56
Speaker 27: Is the traditional African traditional all right, So let's move
55:01
Speaker 27: to faith here for a little bit. Because you come
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Speaker 27: from an extremely traditional home and what Kia is talking
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Speaker 27: about here.
55:07
Speaker 12: Is not new for you, right, but you have a
55:09
Speaker 12: very different interpretation of you tell us a little bit
55:11
Speaker 12: about that My grandmother would wear her go messy every time.
55:15
Speaker 3: It felt like it was the only dress she knew.
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Speaker 28: And then I had a great goodmother who would do
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Speaker 28: the exact same thing my mothers have got messy to.
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Speaker 8: First of all, you have to understand the meaning of culture.
55:25
Speaker 8: I can say from my perspective or understanding what culture.
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Speaker 7: Really means, I believe these are maybe.
55:34
Speaker 8: Ideas customs also and social behaviors over particular people or society.
55:42
Speaker 8: I can say these are ideas customs or social behaviors
55:47
Speaker 8: of a particular people or society. That's how we go
55:52
Speaker 8: back to the African identity. How was or how or
55:56
Speaker 8: what defines? What does it mean by so African social behavior,
56:01
Speaker 8: our customs, our ideas about everything that surrounds us, and also.
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Speaker 7: People how to live with people talk about aubuntu right.
56:11
Speaker 7: We do have that, So it goes back to our.
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Speaker 8: Deers, customs and social behaviors of a particular people or society.
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Speaker 28: Almost every function she's been invited to, I've grown up
56:22
Speaker 28: in a home that's very, very traditional. You have to
56:25
Speaker 28: kneel when you agreed, You have to kneel when yourself.
56:27
Speaker 28: You have to do certain things the way they are
56:30
Speaker 28: meant to do. Your clothes are supposed to be a
56:32
Speaker 28: certain height. You're supposed to speak your language, you're supposed
56:35
Speaker 28: to It's so cultural to a point that even gender
56:39
Speaker 28: roles attached.
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Speaker 15: To men and women because of culture. You know, culturally,
56:43
Speaker 15: a man is like a god.
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Speaker 28: We see him as he's up there, and so if
56:47
Speaker 28: I'm talking to a man, I'm going to be kneeling
56:49
Speaker 28: that particular parts of the chicken that only the man hids,
56:52
Speaker 28: and as a woman, you shouldn't make it.
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Speaker 7: That's a lot though not that's a lot them.
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Speaker 28: And also growing up, I used to see my grandmother
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Speaker 28: refused to protect chicken because you know it's meant for
57:03
Speaker 28: the men.
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Speaker 7: No, we scrape that off. No, not really, but I'm
57:07
Speaker 7: going up.
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Speaker 3: I feel like I don't want to do all that.
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Speaker 8: I'm glad she actually had her own minds mindset in
57:13
Speaker 8: regards to how things were done, because it.
57:15
Speaker 7: Actually doesn't really make sense.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, okay, oh wow, wow, whoa Gabriel Gabriel ga try to.
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Speaker 23: Miss inform you know we are in curacure society that
57:23
Speaker 23: is culturally stranded.
57:25
Speaker 8: Because we're almost coming to the end of the year. Family,
57:28
Speaker 8: I really appreciate Massacre. Thank you staying up with me,
57:32
Speaker 8: Minor Patricks, I did have lots of people with me
57:35
Speaker 8: and staying up with me to day.
57:36
Speaker 7: Thank you for joining me here.
57:38
Speaker 8: And let's stalk with Iverton on the black Cott fab
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Speaker 8: Ready or Network Commedia of the twenty first century Pan
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Speaker 8: Africanist radio station and the fact that we do have
57:49
Speaker 8: the communication authority that has ordered all radio stations and
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Speaker 8: TV to actually not show keys what's really happening. We
57:57
Speaker 8: are actually here reporting about everything, talking about the fact
58:01
Speaker 8: that our African identity and culture should definitely be a perpetual.
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Speaker 23: Norm of the political question. We are not your Ganans
58:11
Speaker 23: by choice. We are your Gunans just by the virtue
58:14
Speaker 23: of colonialism. We are brought together.
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Speaker 8: I love the fact that he said that literally, but
58:20
Speaker 8: will be winding up with that to beautiful, dutiful Wednesday,
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Speaker 8: and the conversation of the day has been June twenty fifth,
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Speaker 8: after months in regards to the anniversary of what happened
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Speaker 8: last year during twenty twenty four, celebrating our heroes and
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Speaker 8: heroes and also giving us the motivation and the drive
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Speaker 8: to keep on fighting and taking back power to redefine
58:42
Speaker 8: Africa as we redefine ourselves, and as we talked about
58:46
Speaker 8: the fact that is a question of did the African
58:50
Speaker 8: culture is being erased by globalization? And I came from
58:54
Speaker 8: a conclusion that everything to do with globalization, if you
58:56
Speaker 8: think about it, it sums down to everything that Africa was.
59:01
Speaker 7: Civilization started from Africa.
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Speaker 8: Maybe talking about something which actually makes you question makes
59:08
Speaker 8: me think twice in regard to how we communicate, talk
59:11
Speaker 8: about ubuntu, talk about our way of spirituality right, our
59:16
Speaker 8: connection to God, and our way of living, our social behavior,
59:22
Speaker 8: but also we talked about the fact that it's did
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Speaker 8: are we still communicating our is also globalization or westernization
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Speaker 8: erasing our African languages.
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