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Market Crash, Tariffs, USD Collapse: Trump's Plan to END the Old World Order? w/ John Perez · Man in America Podcast

• 0:14
  Seth Holehouse: Welcome to Man in America, a voice of reason in a world gone mad. I'm your host, Seth Hullhouse. So huge financial earthquakes this week. We saw the stock market hammered, as Trump announced his liberation day. Right?
• 0:31
  They announced the massive tariffs going on, and there's been a huge reaction. A lot of stocks plummeting, like we haven't seen in quite some time, and there's been a lot of discussion about what's gonna happen next week, the following week. There's even a video, which I'll play in today's show, that Trump shared on Truth Social that's been really making its rounds since then, with someone's analogy of why he believes Trump is intentionally crashing the stock market by at least 20%. And so there's a lot of people that are believing and saying, look. You know, Trump's sharing this.
• 1:02
  He's telling us what he's doing. Expect the market to continue to come down. But we've also seen silver and gold dropped, not huge, not like the stock market, but they still came down. Silver is just below 30. Gold's just above 3,000 an ounce.
• 1:16
  And there's a lot to to consider here all to make sense of here, but, you know, where my mind goes with this is what's the bigger picture? Because over the past couple of months, we saw a massive amount of gold and silver being repatriated into The United States. We have discussion of a of an audit of Fort Knox, a lot of speculation about re revaluation of gold. If you saw my interview or listened to my interview with David Jensen talking about the LBMA breaking and the the banking cartel losing their ability to keep suppressing the price of gold and silver. So there's so many different things that are happening all at once here.
• 1:53
  And what I love doing is trying to see what are the patterns, what is the string that's threading everything together. And what I believe personally, and same as my guest, John Perez, who I know you all love, is that I think that we're entering into some sort of massive monetary reset. The current system is on its last leg. The bubble is is blowing up as big as it can get, and there's something very very significant that's happening. And so John and I will be kinda going into historical data, price charts, some speculation as you'd hope, to try and make sense of what's happening.
• 2:28
  But, what I see and what you'll see in in this video and the conclusion of is that I do believe we're entering into some sort of golden age. That's for sure. But this is gonna be a major financial shift, and it's not gonna be easy in the short term, but it'll make sense in the long term. So this is gonna be a fun high energy interview as you'd expect when John and I get together. We just have a blast.
• 2:50
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• 3:09
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• 3:32
  Alright. Please enjoy the interview with John Perez. Mister John Perez, man, I always love having you on. We have such fun discussions. Thank you so much for being here today.
• 3:44
  Speaker 2: Well, so so nice to be back. Always love being here. The other yesterday, I was reminded, you know, my group, someone let me know because, John, you talked about the gold to Dow ratio two years ago with Seth Whole House. On a real estate video you did, I talked about $10,000 gold and $15,000 gold matched one to one with the Dow Jones, which means the Dow Jones goes down to 15,000. Gold goes up to 15,000.
• 4:09
  And here we are in the midst of a crash that's starting to look a lot little more like 1929 and could be $19.87 next week if they continue on this pace. Nice to be back, though.
• 4:20
  Seth Holehouse: No. It there's there's so much to be you know, to discuss. So there's a few I'm gonna few I'm gonna just kinda set the stage for a discussion. So first off, I've got just a quick overview of, you know, where we ended up, at the end of end of the week or on Friday. Dow drops, 2,200 points Friday.
• 4:39
  S and P five hundred loses 10% in two days as Trump's tariff route deepens. So we saw major, major shift in the stock market here. The the you know, some of the biggest drops we've seen in in quite some time. But there's a there's a few things that like, I don't wanna just focus on, oh, what's happening with the stock market? I wanna look at, okay, what are the bigger things going on here?
• 5:01
  And I wanna go back in time to last fall where Scott Besson, right, the US treasury secretary, this is a little one minute interview with him. This is from, again, last fall, so a little bit less than a year ago. Listen to this because what he's telling us here, what I believe is that something big is coming. So I'll play this really quickly. It's about a minute long.
• 5:25
  Speaker 3: I think as a economic historian and someone who's been in markets for forty years, you know, I I actually think I'm starting to look like it now. It is you know, I think we're also at a at a unique moment geopolitically. And I I could see in the next next few years that we are going to have to have some kind of a grand global economic reordering. It was something on the equivalent of a new Bretton Woods or if you wanna go back, like a a treat something back to the steel agreements or the Treaty of Versailles, there's a very good chance that we are going to have to have that over the next four years, and I'd like to be a part of it. You know, I I've I've studied this.
• 6:20
  I I think it's kind of a a unique skill set. I think
• 6:25
  Seth Holehouse: So him saying that in the next few years, we're going to have some kind of grand economic reordering, something equivalent to a new Bretton Woods. Right? And this is okay. This is this isn't just some rogue trader talking here. Right?
• 6:41
  And this is the right. This is the secretary of the treasury. Okay?
• 6:46
  Speaker 2: And that was before he was the secretary of treasury.
• 6:49
  Seth Holehouse: Exactly. So this guy he there's a lot going on here, but I wanna play another video here. This is very interesting. So this is a video that actually here's a post that says, Donald Trump just reposted this, the posted the following video on Truth Social. This repost is an official confirmation that he agrees with the theory below, which is to crash the stock market in order to lower bond yields.
• 7:14
  The the video quite literally starts off with why Donald Trump is crashing the stock market and mentions that Trump is playing four d chess. So one thing I will say, though, is that just be in my opinion, just because Trump posts something, it doesn't mean that he agrees with everything about that. There's some people that they they take that as, like, the Bible. Like, if Trump posts it, it means that he's read the whole thing. He agrees with with every bit of it.
• 7:37
  This guy is so prolific. He's so busy. He might see something that makes sense to him. He might repost it. However, when we watch this, and and this is, you know, even the title you see right here, Trump is purposefully crashing the market.
• 7:52
  There's something going on here. So I'll play this. This is about a it's a what? About a minute and six seconds. So let's play this, and this will allow us to jump into our discussion.
• 7:59
  Will you go ahead?
• 7:59
  Speaker 2: Okay. Did did Trump re repost this? He did. Yeah. Shared this
• 8:04
  Seth Holehouse: exact video
• 8:05
  Speaker 2: I saw this video. On Incredible.social.
• 8:07
  Seth Holehouse: That's why that's why there's a lot of discussion. I'm seeing this video everywhere. So let's watch this really quickly.
• 8:12
  Speaker 4: Trump is crashing the stock market by 20% this month, but he's doing it on purpose. And this is why Warren Buffett just said Trump is making the best economic moves he's seen in over fifty years. Now here's the secret game he's playing, and it could make you rich. So why is he doing this? To push cash into treasuries, which forces the Fed to slash interest rates in May, and those lower rates give the Fed the ability to refinance trillions of debt very inexpensively.
• 8:41
  It also weakens the dollar and drops mortgage rates. Now it's a wild chess move, but it's working. Now you're probably wondering, what about his tariffs? Well, I'll tell you. It's a genius play.
• 8:51
  It actually forces companies to build here to dodge them. It also forces farmers to sell more of their products here in The US to bring grocery prices way down. We've already seen this with eggs. Now remember, 94% of all stocks are owned only by 8% of Americans. So Trump, he's taking from the rich short term and handing it to the middle class through lower prices.
• 9:16
  Seth Holehouse: So Love that video. A lot going on there.
• 9:19
  Speaker 2: I love that video.
• 9:20
  Seth Holehouse: So so, John, what's your perception of what's going? Because I because what I'm seeing is that I think even 40 chess doesn't describe the complexity of what's going on here. So what is your take?
• 9:33
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, we've I've been preparing for this for you know, our stock clubs are preparing for this for three years. So it's not it's not like we're just sitting here watching, you know, I we have we're in the market here. We knew this was coming. We prepared for it big time. And we're watching this unfold here.
• 9:50
  And I'm in agreement with this video. When I saw this video, I said, who did this here? I go, I'm in total Trump Trump wants that dollar go down. In fact, Trump a lot of people who say the US dollar is gone, it's gonna crash won't be here. So wrong.
• 10:04
  The dollar will be the future global reserve currency backed by gold. The forty year treasury, Judy Shelton, July fourth. Trump has gotta drag it down. Like the guy said, he's going to move, take from the rich and give to the poor. Not necessarily, though.
• 10:18
  Not the not the poor. The working man. The man on Main Street. Okay? So you've got all this money coming out of Wall Street, and it is going to force production going on here.
• 10:28
  But but in my opinion here, what I see is this, and what I've been expecting for a while, Trump's gonna drive the dollar down. Now let's give an example of how how he's gonna do this. Recall, I started my group in in the fourth quarter of twenty twenty one. It was getting ready for the special military operation with Russia. When the military operation started, they banned the use of the ruble.
• 10:53
  They just basically crashed the market short of the ruble, and the ruble just got destroyed. I think they're down 70%. It was going down, down, and everyone was writing off Russia. And then, you know, people were pulling out of Russia, and they tried to crush Russia. Down, down, down, down, down, down.
• 11:09
  And what happened? Vladimir Putin comes in there. What does he do? He comes in there and he puts gold. Boom.
• 11:16
  Right under the ruble. Once he put that heavy metal, that precious metal under the ruble, it bounced and went straight back up, was one of the best performing currencies of 2022. And Russia did not suffer from the sanctions. In fact, the current tariff war, Russia's on the sidelines saying, hey. Look.
• 11:34
  You've already sanctioned us. We don't do business with The United States. So have fun with your tariffs because they're not affecting Russia. But the point I'm trying to make here is this. I believe Trump's gonna do the same thing.
• 11:43
  He's gonna drive the dollar down. We have treasury yields, just like you said, treasury yields going down. Housing is taking a nosedive right now. How do you bump it? What did Bush do after 09/11?
• 11:53
  He drove the interest rates down for three or four years. More loans came in. Housing went back up. Got a support bump there. The last thing you want is doing a tariff war and then having people get thrown out in the street, losing their houses, bring down the rates, make money cheap again.
• 12:09
  Oil is down $6.08, $7 a barrel now. Oh my gosh. Stock market's going down. Well, gas is going down. You got more money in your pocket here.
• 12:18
  Rumors of the IRS going away, bring in the tariff money and offset the IRS. The scenario there is to bring in the ERS, the revenues from the tariffs. If Trump you know, this is a very difficult situation where Trump is doing something, there's gonna be pain. We feel it in our four zero one k's. We can see it.
• 12:36
  But if Trump comes in and reduces the tax burdens on the IRS using the revenues from the ERS, brings down the treasury loans, People will start buying houses again. Prices are gonna come down, but they need to come down because they were over. It's a bubble anyway from all the hedge funds buying all the homes here. But back to the dollar down. Trump is in Trump's interest to bring it down.
• 12:57
  But what is he gonna what do you think he's gonna do when the dollar goes down, down, down, down, down? Let's call up Elon. Let's do a live feed and see how much gold is in that Federal Reserve. You know? So is there is the gold there?
• 13:09
  Is it not there? Bring it all the way down. Open up the vault. Reset the price of gold and then bounce the dollar back up here. That's what I see coming up here.
• 13:19
  It sounds crazy, but, you know, Trump cannot let that stock market go down, down, down, down, down. The dollar's gonna get some support from gold to resetting the Fort Knox deal because it's coming pretty soon here. Elon's gonna do it. And then we got Judy Sheldon talking about July 4 resetting the forty year treasury to gold. Now what else is gonna happen here?
• 13:41
  Shorting will be banned. Shorting will be banned. And I'll tell you in our group, we're we're we're all in. Our stocks in the mining sector are being shorted, like twice as much as DJT stock. There is a Rico lawsuit ongoing between DJT versus the shortage.
• 13:59
  We know where they are. Virtu Financial Citadel. They're not gonna talk about it. It's like a grand jury. Trump now we have the scenario where the stock market's crashing.
• 14:07
  Your $4.00 1 k is getting wiped out, and the people are saying, stop the bleeding. I said, well, they're shorting the stock. They're gonna ban shorting. And I wouldn't be surprised if it came in an executive order. When they do that, that's gonna launch many gold and silver mining stocks, which are under lawsuit, trillion dollar lawsuits right now to stop the shorting here.
• 14:25
  All the, you know, all these other stories on shorting here. So we have a lot going on. I just threw a lot of stuff out there. I still believe that Trump's going to push the dollar down, lower the treasury yields, get more mortgage going coming down here. Cheaper money for the average for Main Street guys.
• 14:40
  Wall Street's getting wiped out because they're losing their margins. They're getting margin called. They're selling off all their assets. Company valuations are coming down because they're ridiculously overpriced in the stock market to where in the gold mining stock market, the juniors and the expiration month, they're all undervalued. Why?
• 14:58
  Manipulation, something I call the RDS short. The entire a lot of people don't know this, and I'm one of the few people that will tell you this. The entire mining sector has been shorted by the deep state since 02/2008, '2 thousand '9. And we'll see that very soon when they outlaw shorting, which they will, because everyone's going to be in the streets saying, Trump, you're killing us. It's like, well, it's not me.
• 15:19
  It's these guys shorting. Well, who? Well, Citadel's been in the news. Virtru Financial. Do some research.
• 15:24
  It's all out there. That's going to change. And I'm I'm giving you a dynamic live picture here right now here. But I believe that Trump is gonna mimic the same thing Russia did. Let it come down.
• 15:35
  Boom. Back it with gold. Bring it back up. And the whole story about the US dollar crashing and going away vanish. And what did Trump say about the dollar?
• 15:44
  We cannot lose global reserve currency. It will be the equivalent of losing World War three, which means what? What's really the warning is we will go to war to hold the stock up here. And everyone who thinks the dollar is going away will be wrong like they usually are. And gold's gonna be king again because in the executive order he put out last week regarding critical minerals being a national it says right there in the first paragraph, this is the golden era.
• 16:11
  So he signaled everything. The truth is it's almost clear as day. And that video you put up, I think is just right on the money. In fact, I don't think that was I don't think that video was just randomly put up. Somebody here has done their homework and knows a little bit about the script of what they're doing here, because this is very well scripted.
• 16:28
  And we have to remember this. What did Trump's treasury secretary do while he was in office with Trump? He's a movie director. What did he do? He went into Fort Knox and took pictures of all the gold in Fort Knox and said the gold was there.
• 16:42
  Was he lying? I don't think so. And now we got Bissent coming in there, who I love Bissent. My biggest position's in gold. And by the way, my prior guy, Mnuchin, shows pictures of the gold now.
• 16:55
  Now we just need Elon to go down there with a live camera and doji and say, Hey, by the way, the gold is here, but it's priced at $42 down. Let's reset it. When do we reset it here? As the dollar's going down? Yeah, let's reset it and put it under there.
• 17:07
  And then bam. Because Trump is going to tokenize all the gold. He's going to tokenize all the underground commodity assets across the country, and he's going make a giant sovereign wealth fund. And he's going to use to tokenize the assets, he's going to leverage that. That's why he says we're going to make America wealthy again because he's going to he's that's going to be the asset in the ground that backs helps back the dollar because Basel III BIS Basel III, you cannot you if you're a bank, you're gonna have to have a certain amount of gold to loan out your your assets out there.
• 17:40
  You can't be writing loans without gold backing it. Trump is gonna mimic the same thing with The United States and say, we have assets. We've tokenized it. We have gold. The dollar is good.
• 17:49
  The US Treasury backed by the four year unit, and we're gonna be the world global currency again. But this time backed by real assets and gold. That's what I see coming. We're pumped up here. Market crash.
• 18:01
  Bring it down. I hope they bring that Dow down to 20,000 points. Reset gold at 20,000 or 15,000. Either way, we win no matter what here. We planned on this.
• 18:10
  We prepared for it. But that video you can put on there right on the money. So I just fire hose all this information here, but we it's good. Absolutely, yeah, ready for this.
• 18:20
  Seth Holehouse: So I wanna pull up a tweet. This is from, Ben Rickert. This is a parody account. You remember Ben Rickert? He was the, Brad Pitt paid played his character in, The Big Short.
• 18:30
  He was the mentor. So Yes. This is a parody account, but someone that I really understands finance. So this is a tweet from February 10. He says The United States stands at the brink of the most profound monetary overhaul since the seventies.
• 18:44
  Evidence suggests federal authorities are methodically laying the groundwork for a managed devaluation of the dollar, coordinating tools such as gold reserves, trade barriers, and strategic asset stockpiling to orchestrate a comprehensive financial reset. This calculated shift signals the reemergence of a reengineered economic framework poised to redefine global monetary dynamics. And, like, there's a lot good there's a lot within that, but I I couldn't agree more.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: But one thing I wanna point
• 19:15
  Seth Holehouse: out just from as I've kinda understand this is that when the dollar became the global reserve currency, that we there's something called the Tiffin dilemma. You've heard the term the the Tiffin dilemma? Maybe we talked about it on one of our previous shows.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Yes. I very vaguely, but I remember talking
• 19:30
  Seth Holehouse: about it. As I understand it is that is that when a currency is the global reserve currency, it it it it represents a strong dilemma because you wanna have a strong currency to be able to export all this currency. But with a fiat currency, you end up undercutting basically your own, like, your own, nation. Right? Because if we're if we if we have to export this currency and keep it strong, it actually hurts that nation's ability to export products.
• 19:58
  And there's there's there's a lot much more complicated aspects to it. But fundamentally, though, what I'm understanding from this is that if you think about, okay, why would Trump devalue the dollar? Right? Well okay. So for one, is that why is it that everything we own is made in China?
• 20:15
  Well, because they have artificially manipulated their currency, especially their currency is used externally outside their country. Right? They've manipulated to keep their currency so low that their manufacturing is just so cheap. I mean, you can you can say, take this mouse on my desk here. I if you wanted to make this in America, it might cost you $10 to make it in America, but it cost you a dollar to make it in China.
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• 22:23
  But it's also, as I understand it, which I think this what that video that I played was pointing out about Trump is that, you know, you know, our nation is is trillions and trillions in debt. Right? 36, 30 7 trillion dollars in debt. So by hyperinflating or weaken weakening the dollar, that debt, you can inflate away that debt. And so if he can cause, almost in in a sense, cause kind of a a mini hyperinflation, What it does is it makes that debt cheaper and cheaper and cheaper as the dollar becomes less and less.
• 22:53
  So $36,000,000,000,000 in debt becomes 20,000,000,000,000, becomes $10,000,000,000,000 in debt. Right? So it's a way of inflating away the debt. But then as you've mentioned, once that gets inflated away enough, then I think what it would be, you refinance the debt. Right?
• 23:09
  So once that once that debt has been inflated away, you refinance, you lock that debt in at a new rate. And then once you hit that rock bottom, then you bring in, like, you mentioned with the ruble, then that's when you see this revaluation. So I remember, you know, over the past couple of months, everyone's been talking about, oh, they're they're gonna reevaluate gold. They're gonna put the new price target or, you know, new price valuation on gold. They're gonna, you know, back the dollar by gold, and there people are wondering, when's it gonna happen?
• 23:34
  But, you know, what I'm seeing here is that that is part of the step, but to before you do that, before you revalue the gold, you have to you have to collapse the dollar, and and and go along with that comes collapsing of the markets and a lot of these, you know, the housing market, the, know, real estate, you know, broader commercial, residential real estate, the stock market. So Trump sharing a video that says that Trump is strategically crashing the market by 20%, it actually makes sense. And he's even talked about it, not just him, but some of his his, you know, kind of circle around, especially his more financial literate people have talked about how there's going to be short term pain. Right? And this is the thing is that we it's like you take someone
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: eat pain.
• 24:20
  Seth Holehouse: That's been drinking Slurpees and eating Doritos all their life. You wanna get them healthy again. Well, it's gonna suck for the first year of getting them healthy. Once they get once they start detoxing all those chemicals and all that bad stuff Yeah. They'll start feeling a little better, but I that's what I see happening here is that where there's gonna be short term pain, it's intentional.
• 24:38
  The markets are gonna continue to come down. People that have their money sinking a four zero one k, IRA, wherever Reminds me of my dad, you know, growing up, you know, during the dot com crash, my dad was working for AT and T. He had all his money sitting in his four zero one k with AT and T. I remember every day my parents talking about it. My mom's saying,
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Ed,
• 24:55
  Seth Holehouse: you know, the the market's down another 5%.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: You know, you're
• 24:58
  Seth Holehouse: and we just we saw his entire $4.00 1 k disappear because that's the thing is that people have all their assets sitting in the dollar. This is just what's going on right now. What do you what do you think about all that?
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: I'm in it. I I agree with a % of everything you said, and I'm still I still can't get over the fact that Trump sent out that video, which is a clear signal that it's like, well, you know, it's kinda like when Trump tweeted out silver has been money throughout all of history. Trump also said he you know, he never says the word silver. He'll never say the word silver. He will in the future.
• 25:32
  That would be like releasing the Kraken when Trump talks about silver. Now I in agreement with you a %. And what you just said and also with the video that Trump put out there, I had no idea he did that. I mean, really, it just tells me Trump is truly a comedian. Why?
• 25:49
  Because he says, I'm not looking at the stock market. I'm not worried about it. Well, when he says that, everyone at home is like, well, I'm looking at my four zero one k. I'm losing everything. So there's a disconnect there.
• 25:59
  Trump has to fix that fill that gap in there. And that's where I think shorting is gonna be used as it's the crash of the market is going be used to put shorting on the on the limelight so they can say basically say, hey, shorting. Everyone take a look at shorting here. But I'm in agreement. This is obviously a staged operation.
• 26:18
  Scott Passant, let's talk about him for a moment. Scott Passant worked with Soros in, I believe, the Quantum Fund, not the quant, but he worked with Soros during the time when what did Soros do? And people say, Oh my gosh, he worked with Soros. That's not necessarily a bad thing, my friend. You know, there is salvation, you know, in this world, in this lifetime.
• 26:36
  There is salvation. People can come to Jesus and do the right thing. Well, who has greater experience at crashing a currency and making a billion dollars off it? Scott Bissent. His biggest position?
• 26:50
  Gold. If if Besent was on the other side, he'd say it's a good time to sell gold. You you you see these guys that come on mainstream media. They'll say it's a good time to sell gold. It's a good time to sell gold.
• 27:01
  It's a good time. It's like, no. It's a it's like, stop. What what's his name? Used to say it all the time.
• 27:07
  Not Kramer, his friend. Kudlow. Larry Kudlow. During the last crash, gold was at $6.50, 6 80, 7 hundred. It's a good time to sell gold.
• 27:15
  Like, what is this guy talking about? Well, he's on the other side. Basant, gold is my biggest position. So you got Mnuchin at Fort Knox. Basant, gold is my biggest position.
• 27:26
  But Basant's background was Soros. I believe he was there when they crashed The pound crashed the pound, and that's where Storos made billions. Of course, what guy is better to bring in with that kind of experience? But Scott percent, but he's holding gold when he's very clear about that. That tells you everything.
• 27:45
  This guy literally, what's my book? You know, people see people on online, they're, you know, selling some. Well, he's he's he's pumping his book. Well, he pumped his book. It's gold.
• 27:54
  You've got percent gold. Judy Shelton gold. Elon Musk live feed at Fort Knox. Trump saying we're going into Fort Knox. You know what that means?
• 28:04
  He's on the airplane to the reporter. You know, we're going into Fort Knox. You know what that means, don't you? That's a big thing. He's like, oh, my God.
• 28:11
  Trump is like literally telling everyone, signaling that this is the golden era here. So I think back to what you just talked about and that video there, I think this is absolutely staged. And the one thing we're going to see now is bringing the market down, bringing $4.00 1 ks's down. Trump is going to capitalize on that and what's going to work best for his for his goals, for the country, but also for public relations goals. He cannot come into this market and destroy everyone and wipe things out and then just take the knife for it.
• 28:44
  He's got to scapegoat someone else. Perfect time to scapegoat who? You know, the biggest shorters in the world. And he's got the Rico lawsuit with Devin Nunes. It's in the cards there.
• 28:54
  And all of a sudden, if you type in Rico lawsuits, there's all kinds of Rico stuff coming out. Oh, they're getting sued for Rico. They're getting so they're really pulling this stuff out here. And even Kash Patel talking about shorting, illegal shorting here. The stage is being set here.
• 29:11
  Trump is joking around. Where's Ken? Where's Ken Griffin? Where is he at? Is he around here somewhere?
• 29:15
  I saw a roast where he was like, where's Ken Griffin? I was like, they can't find him. So Trump knows Ken Griffin. So this is a big, big deal. But I'm in complete agreement here.
• 29:24
  You have to bring that dollar down and then reset it. And then they can float gold from there. So let's say we're going to reset gold at $3,300 an ounce. So it's like, how about we reset it to gold and let the free market take the dollar up? Trump that would
• 29:39
  Seth Holehouse: be
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: phenomenal. Imagine suddenly you'd have the S and P five hundred crushed, Dow crushed dollar. What's gonna happen? Once the Dow stock markets are crushed, they're gonna yank out all the deadweight and they're gonna replace many components in the indexes with what? With tier one gold assets, which will be tier one based on the BIS, Bank and Basel III to replace the deadweight in the Dow index.
• 30:05
  They're going to put gold stocks in there and then it's going to rise up. And then all of a sudden trauma. Wow. We brought everything back good as gold. And your four zero one case came back.
• 30:14
  Why? Because we got rid of all the crap companies that were overpriced, and we put real gold in there, real assets to bring up the entire markets. Trump looks like a hero. The shorters are gone. We're good as gold.
• 30:25
  Judy Shelton gets her way. You know, US dollars, you know, as good as gold. And this is what I see happening. And you can see that there's obviously a script going on and what the video with percent saying four years ago, Bretton Woods. Well, what I just described really is the new Bretton Woods, but it also it parallels with Russia's backing up the ruble and then the US dollar.
• 30:47
  And all of a sudden, everyone's on an even plane. And then from there, we're going to we won't talk with China. That's going to be a whole another story over there. I'm not sure how that's going to play out there, but the sanctions with China could go if it goes nuclear in China. I don't mean this a nuclear war.
• 31:03
  If it goes nuclear, remember what happened in Russia? Everyone pulled out of Russia. Right? And what did Russia do? Your Starbucks is my Starbucks.
• 31:12
  They just grabbed assets, McDonald's, and said, they're ours. There are 5,000 McDonald's in China. If this thing goes nuclear, Nike, New Balance, all these shoe manufacturers, they make everything in China. It's like, okay, you take China land here in America. We're to take your companies here.
• 31:29
  We have 5,000 McDonald's. Well, what are you gonna call it? We're gonna take it back from America. What are gonna call We're call it McTrump's, you know, golden arches in China. This this this thing with China can go absolutely nuclear here, but that's another topic there for discussion.
• 31:45
  But back to what you're saying here, I do believe that Trump is absolutely driving the dollar down and rightfully so here. And it makes total sense. And obviously, Scott Bissett said it four years ago. He said exactly what is happening right now. The entire Bretton Woods system is being reset, redone.
• 32:02
  And like he used the term reordered, which means they're taking the current financial order and we're going to we're going to move it around here. Mess up your hair. 52 card pickup and then boom, we're going to be go back again. And it goes back to, I think, the most important comment that Trump made. We cannot lose global reserve status.
• 32:20
  That would be like losing World War two. So I think there's a lot there.
• 32:26
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. Of course. So so I I pulled up a thread that I wanna read through a little bit of this because it gives so much good context. And I'm pretty sure that you and I covered this exact thread the last show that we did on this. So because, you know, talking about Scott Bissett coming out here saying that, okay.
• 32:41
  We're we're entering into a a this will be a new global order. Right? Financial order. So I'm I'm gonna read through this. I'm not gonna go through the whole thing, but, I'll kinda skim through what what's going on here.
• 32:52
  He says this guy this is, from Jack Mollers. He said, we're witnessing the unwind of the World War two economic order. What's happening now is much bigger than tariffs. For nearly eighty years, the US exported dollars while importing goods and debt. The system is failing.
• 33:07
  After World War two, the world was decimated. The US was the only industrial power left standing. Europe and Japan were in ruins. The world needed to rebuild, and The US took the lead. How?
• 33:18
  The US funded global reconstruction with efforts like the Marshall Plan and Bretton Woods. Okay. So keep in mind that when Bissent saying, we're gonna have a new Bretton Woods, the idea was simple. The US would buy foreign goods, run trade deficits, send dollars abroad, and let other countries produce stuff. In return, other countries would use the dollar as a global reserve currency, accumulating US debt as their savings.
• 33:39
  In essence, the world gets dollars, the US gets goods. Continuing on here. The system did what it's supposed to do and fueled decades of global growth. Japan, Germany, South Korea, and eventually China all industrialized by producing goods for Americans. The US kept printing dollars, and the world kept accepting them because they sort of had no choice.
• 33:59
  The issue was this was not sustainable. Printing pieces of paper and not doing any real work couldn't last forever. The US was sending dollars out while manufacturing left the country. Over time, The US became a consumer, not a producer. In summary, the problem is The US can't run permanent trade deficits forever.
• 34:19
  The US deindustrialized itself, manufacturing jobs gone, middle class crushed. Meanwhile, China rose by taking over global production. All the while, The US racked up 35 plus trillion in debt, and other nations began to question the system. Why hold US debt as a reserve while the USD loses value? This is where the Triffin dilemma comes in.
• 34:40
  If the US dollar is the global reserve, The US must run deficits to supply the world with dollars, but doing this hollows out the domestic economy, forcing The US to import more than it exports. The global demand for dollars keeps the dollar artificially strong, making US goods less competitive and pushing manufacturing overseas. It's a trap. It's failing. This is why The US needs to reshor production and weaken the dollar.
• 35:06
  If The US wants to bring back manufacturing, it needs to make American production competitive again. This means two things. Tariffs force companies to stop offshoring stop offshoring production, a weaker dollar, make US exports cheaper and more attractive. This is exactly what the Trump and the new administration is pushing for. He says, you see, tariffs aren't just about trade.
• 35:27
  They're part of a larger strategy to shift The US economic model. A weaker dollar makes US exports more competitive and also helps inflate away its debt. Okay. And then it gets into some stuff with the with Powell and cutting rates. I'm talking about how Trump needs to to lower rates because it it benefits real estate debtors and economic growth.
• 35:47
  Don't know how he's gonna have to force, his hand force Powell's hand. Okay? So, basically, the I think that this is a really good summary. It says at the same time, it's no secret the rest of world is moving away from the dollar. China, Russia, even Saudi Arabia no longer want to rely on USD for trade.
• 36:03
  The BRICS nations are exploring alternatives. Countries are selling US treasuries and reducing their dollar reserves. So this basically, I think he says, okay. He's zooming out. We're watching the global monetary reset in real time.
• 36:19
  The World War two economic model is breaking down. The US is reshoring and weakening the dollar. The world is de dollarizing. The the Fed will be forced to cut rates. The US will inflate away its debt.
• 36:31
  Okay? So this, I think, is is you know, I ran through it quickly, but that really helps to reframe what's happening. But there's one other thing as part of this that that I think is really important key, and I'm not sure if you listen to the interview that I did with Scott Jensen. Sorry. David Jensen.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: I got part of it. I like to say to Jensen. Very intelligent So
• 36:52
  Seth Holehouse: I'll make sure I send it to you after we finish because you you should be I I should listen to it again. So what David Jensen was explaining, and this was this was so profound. I think this is actually underlying so much of what we're seeing is getting into the LBMA. Okay? So what he said is in '71, when Nixon took the dollar off the gold standard, and they just started printing more and more dollars.
• 37:17
  What happened is because they started inflating the dollar, the price of gold and silver started skyrocketing. Okay? So I have a chart here. Let me actually see if can I'll pull up a chart just to make give us a good reference to this. Okay.
• 37:31
  So here we have okay. Yeah. So here's a chart of this is the gold price. And you can see right here in the early seventies. This is '73, this is as far back as this goes, where gold was at $83 an ounce.
• 37:48
  Okay? So what happened here is that once they they this is a you know, shortly after they they took the gold out the dollar of the gold standard, you can see that within you know, by 1980, gold was at $6.91 an ounce. So gold went up almost 10 times over the course of a decade. And so what David Jensen was explaining is that what they what they realized was that gold and silver were the canary in the coal mine. They were the warning signal to show when the dollar was being overprinted.
• 38:21
  They they were the reflection of true inflation because if we've increased like, if the dollar right now is worth only 1% of what it was a hundred years ago, then you would see, likewise, gold and silver as a reflection that would be way higher than what they are. And so what happened is after they start printing all these dollars, all these people started realizing, wait. They're the dollar is being inflated. They're printing way too much currency, and these people were moving into gold and silver because they were skyrocketing as a reflection of the increased monetary supply from the overprinting of the dollar. So what happened is that the the Bank of England it's really, you know, the banking cartel, they needed a way to suppress the gold and silver prices.
• 39:02
  So they created the LBMA, which was then, given to the Bank of England, the Rothschilds, to have oversight of. And so in the eighties, they created the LBMA, which then allowed them to issue issue the paper promissory notes for gold and silver. So because gold and silver up until that point were a fixed supply, it was a true fixed commodity, They basically took it, and they said, okay. We're gonna do the same thing we don't with the dollar. We're gonna turn it into something that we can create unlimited supply of.
• 39:31
  So they start so the LBMA was created, which allowed them to flood the market with paper, gold, and silver, and and and therefore suppressed the gold and silver prices. And so since the eighties, they've been using the LBMA to manipulate and to heavily suppress gold and silver prices, which is why, you know, gold should be, I mean, at $20.30, $50,000 an ounce right now, looking at just where the dollar is at. Right?
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Silver will be I mean, yeah, will be,
• 40:00
  Seth Holehouse: you know, hundreds, if not thousands dollars per ounce, but they use the elevated to to suppress those prices. But what's happening now as we've seen, right, if you're looking at how the Bank of England went from, like, a two or three day delivery, and and, you know, if you wanna call in your physical to now, what, a four week, eight week delivery. So what's happening is that there's been this run on gold and silver, and everyone is getting demanding, and that system's breaking, which is why we've now seen gold hit all time highs of, you know, over $3,100 an ounce. We've also seen silver go up substantially in the past couple of, you know, couple couple of months. So but what David just explained, others I've been following and explaining is that right now, though, what's happening, you we we've seen the news of all this gold and silver coming back into The US, like massive amounts of gold and silver being repatriated.
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• 41:54
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• 42:20
  Speaker 2: Last chance to get They
• 42:21
  Seth Holehouse: know that everything is breaking. Right? And so this is where we're at right now. And so this is why you know, I wanna kinda transition, and, obviously, I would I would love to hear your thoughts on this, but it's like right now, we look at this gold and silver price. I'll pull this chart back up, and it's like, okay.
• 42:36
  So silver. Okay? Silver took a major hit in the past couple of days. It's down now. It's below $30 an ounce.
• 42:42
  Gold also took a hit. Right? Not as much as silver, but still, it's down compared to what it was, and people are like, oh my gosh. I've had people texting me and saying, Seth, oh my gosh. Silver went down.
• 42:53
  Like, is it is this bad? And and I'm looking at it and think, okay. Hey. No. No.
• 42:57
  I I was buying at $34 an ounce. I'll be buying at $29 an ounce. Right? Because the the bigger picture is that I see there's this what they're doing is these these these these are last ditch attempts to keep the prices down while they can still buy as they can because once the system breaks, I think that we're gonna see we're gonna see gold and silver hit prices that we we've never imagined before because it's been such a SIOP. Anyway, John, I'll let you talk.
• 43:26
  I there's a little my my little soapbox rant, though. I wanna hear I'd love to hear your thoughts.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Well, let me add to David Jensen's story here about the paper coming in, the LBMA. That was part one. Listen. No one's gonna get this I got this one here. Nailed it here.
• 43:40
  The part two to LBMA was Bitcoin. Exactly. The silver SIOP. It they ran it. They ran the operation there.
• 43:47
  When did they bring in a Bitcoin? The white paper came out when Obama showed up. Oh, '8 is when JP Morgan accelerated their shorting. So as they're accelerating, what they do? They got everyone.
• 43:57
  They got all this money they were printing that Obama printed like a madman. And they What did they do? Bitcoin anonymous? You know, look, you can't do You work in the markets here. It's heavily regulated.
• 44:08
  And they'll say, Well, Bitcoin's unregulated. Really? How is that possible? How can you just run things everywhere? Run this stuff up?
• 44:15
  Because it was part of the operation. Bitcoin was part of the silver spy up. And you're going to see Bitcoin finally with you. It's finally is going to come. It's raining being reigned in right now.
• 44:24
  As soon as they let go of silver and gold, you're going to see everyone run out of crypto into gold and silver. When they brought in Bitcoin, all of a sudden there's this this thing, this product. Well, if you bought silver, it ain't going anywhere. And one of the promotions during Bitcoin and crypto was DropGold. Everyone should look it up.
• 44:44
  Find out who financed DropGold. If you're smart and you know how to research, you know who really financed that. Big name out there. And it's connected to Epstein. Okay?
• 44:57
  So now you go out there, dropgold came in like, Oh yeah, later on as Bitcoin is flying up. And what did they do? Bitcoin and crypto sucked all this printed money out into the ether land.
• 45:08
  Seth Holehouse: And I look at look at here. There's an ad. Sorry, John. I I it's it's an ad produced. It's time to drop gold.
• 45:17
  Because in a digital world, gold shouldn't weigh down your portfolio. I know. Leave the pack behind. Go digital. Go grayscale.
• 45:30
  Actually, there's there's a whole campaign to get people
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 45:34
  Seth Holehouse: Crazy. So so Bitcoin and crypto was the it was the LBMA two point o.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: Digital.
• 45:40
  Seth Holehouse: And that's what I thought too, actually, as I've thought about this is what they've been doing is because the thing is is that it's not about with with these things, it's not about what's what like, what the elites are doing. Like, they're because they're if you look at, you know, historically, they're not putting every cent in the Bitcoin. Like, the central banks, the big banking families, the the Vatican Wealth Managers, they're putting all their assets into gold and silver, but what they've done is they've convinced the population to put your money into the four zero one k, put your money into the stock market, put your money into cryptocurrency. That's why in America, I think I I saw something recently. If you own 20 ounces of silver, you're in the top 2% of precious metals house owning households in America.
• 46:20
  Just what I think with 20 ounce like, right here, this is a 10 ounce bar.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: 20 ounces. Right?
• 46:24
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. So I'm I'm already in the top, like, 4% of silver owning Americans because I have a single 20 ounce or 10 ounce bar right here. So that's That's amazing. Because they don't want us because what they do is they want us to put all of our assets into things that have no real value except what the what everyone believes in value is, so then they can just they can shake the whole thing up, collapse all those those assets, come in scoop up everything for pennies on the dollar, and go and and then and just keep going.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And, you know, I back to the sponsors of Drab Gold was propaganda. It was anti gold propaganda. And so what did people what did what did Klaus Schwab say? You will own nothing, and you'll be happy.
• 47:06
  Well, guess what? If you own Bitcoin, you own nothing. It's thin air. Trump called it thin air. And I know he hasn't changed his position on that.
• 47:13
  Thin air and you'll be well, people own Bitcoin and they're happy until further notice, you know, sooner or later. And Elon, I think, is going to once they drop the Epstein stuff, we're gonna see some activity here in the Bitcoin space where people are gonna say, I didn't know that. Of course, I did all these interviews with David Morgan on the silver side up in the crypto conspiracy. It's like, how did this guy know? It's it's it's out in the open.
• 47:37
  Anybody can see it. Jeffrey Epstein's original interview on Bitcoin. What it is? It's still on Cointelegraph. Type in Epstein Bitcoin Cointelegraph.
• 47:47
  It's still there. And if you read his script there, everybody promoting Bitcoin is quoting Jeffrey Epstein, and nobody wants to talk about this. But they're they're gonna they're gonna unload it. You notice we haven't seen the Epstein files yet. Don't worry.
• 48:01
  It's coming here. Sooner or later, they're gonna have to do something. Either they bury it and cover it up because another country's involved, which we won't mention, and they're gonna have to bury it. Bitcoin bursting with potential. He said it's not a currency.
• 48:14
  It's a property. If a property is involved with human trafficking, guess what? It becomes an accessory to something else related to executive order 13818. Just sit back and watch. Silver and gold are going to the moon.
• 48:29
  They're real assets here. If you own crypto, you really don't own anything. And people say a store of value. Look, a store of value. Believe me, they're not going to back the dollar with the Bitcoin.
• 48:38
  No country in the world is backing anything with Bitcoin. In fact, El Salvador just got rid of it because only, what, two or 4% of the country used it here. The central banks are going to add 30% more gold. They're not adding 1% of any crypto. The alt alt crypto market is crashing.
• 48:55
  So this is part of that. This is the end of the silver SIOP, which is kind of a kind of a movie here. Part of it like it. Was the anti what it was it was silver the Silver SIOP was the anti drop gold SIOP. At the end, people are gonna say, this is so funny.
• 49:12
  Silver took off and crypto went down. I've been telling people for the longest time. Back to David Jensen, the silver side of crypto conspiracy was to suck money out of the system, get people into something that would make them happy, worth nothing, anonymously built, connected to Epstein while they get all this. This is what you do it. Hey, everyone.
• 49:30
  Look. Go look over there while we take all the gold. And what did how much gold was purchased by the central banks from 02/2008 to up to now? I mean, they bought everything. They bought so much gold here.
• 49:43
  And now with all this gold coming in here right now, repatriating, I think the government's probably going to seize it, get some, or maybe they're buying some. We are going to see this change. And Trump knows when they reset. Sooner or later, if you're going to be a currency of some sort, you're gonna have to live up to those Basel III regulations here. And that's gonna be an issue down the road here.
• 50:03
  And Trump, you can see it. Trump has actually taken The United States and actually positioning The United States to actually meet the Basel III standards. Because right now, well, the dollar is backed by nothing. It's a fiat. It's a Ponzi scheme.
• 50:15
  Well, how about we put goal behind it? It's like, oh, well, what did you just do? Well, we just magically did the right thing. Well, if we do it, it seems like every other currency or crypto should probably do something there. Okay, everyone, pull down your pants.
• 50:28
  What do you have your assets? Even Tether owns gold. If you look at their audit, even they own a percentage of precious metals. And there's a gold Tether out there. I don't own it.
• 50:38
  I don't buy it. Not promoting it. But even though when I went through the audit at Tether, which was a management prepared audit, they own a percentage of gold here. And they have a role to play down the road. But again, back to David Jensen's story about the LBMA.
• 50:54
  Bitcoin, the silver slab and hashtag drop gold. That was the second phase. They had to get more people out. And people look, they look at the entire generation. Like you said, 20 ounces of gold makes you 1%.
• 51:08
  In our Silver Gold Stock Club, it's required you need to own a thousand ounces of physical in your position to join my club. Why? Because then I know you're real. Why? If gold goes a thousand bucks an ounce, you're a millionaire.
• 51:19
  If you got a bunch of money in the stock market, we get seven x, 10 x, 20 x on our our money coming in.
• 51:25
  Seth Holehouse: You mean silver? Said gold. If gold goes to a thousand silver. Silver. Yeah.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: Correct me there. Thousand ounces of silver and that you got that. That's your that's your economic body armor. Having a thousand ounces of silver. The stock market, we speculate there.
• 51:40
  Well, I went through this last market bull market. I made people millionaires in the silver and gold stock market here. And it was a total no brainer. It took off like a rocket based on the chart you just showed. Soon as the market decoupled in February 2009, gold went off to the races and silver went up to $50.
• 51:57
  The stocks just roared along with physical. And so so you you look at the situation right now. We have the this is to me is like I did this last time. This time I'm ready. This we came in this market here.
• 52:09
  We were absolutely ready. But to think two weeks ago, Trump put out an executive order promoting rare earth and critical mineral mining. We're we're all in. Like, let's go, baby. National security executive order promoting our sector.
• 52:23
  Yes, I'm all like 100% Trump. Get that gold in there. Drop that dollar emergency rate cut coming here real soon. I see Powell here. He's either going to be forced to cut rates, do an emergency rate cut or Trump could get executive order, drop the rates, discredit the Federal Reserve, discredit Powell, take the credit, save the economy here at a certain time.
• 52:44
  But until that happens, we have to see more pain in the four zero one ks until people scream for something. And then Trump cannot do the whole Hegelian dialect thing. Problem, reaction, solution. Superman, Trump, fix it. Let's put gold in there.
• 53:02
  It's going be a dynamic market. And as a speculator in the market here, I looked at every different scenario I could, adding all this stuff here, and it was pretty clear that this was a scripted outcome here. And, you know, even though the markets pull back and we have we have both equities and gold stocks going down, eventually it's going to snap. Dow will keep going down. And then the gold and silver equities and junior mining stocks and mining stocks, they will go up.
• 53:29
  In fact, yesterday morning, the last two days of the market, the Dow Jones in the futures market minus 900, minus 1,100. I go, this is just great. Bring it down. You know, I want to see that reset. Let's go that Dow one to one ratio as it's going down.
• 53:46
  I'm watching in the futures market overnight certain stocks, which I call my cabal mining index. And I'm looking at it. Holy crap. Look at all the money pouring into these stocks. And right before the market opens, boom, they turn red.
• 53:58
  I go, well, they're hiding something here. I'm not going to say a word here, but I'll tell you what, we're pumped up. We're excited. I like it. And I look at all the stock here.
• 54:06
  The Dow Jones is down. Futures down a thousand points. And this I have this my little thing called the cabal. They're all money is just pouring in. I thought, I guess that's just what I want to see here.
• 54:19
  Oh, yeah. You go buy bitcoin while we buy the gold mining stocks. You do this because that is what's going to happen. Again, we have you look at Basel III, whether people believe in it or not, you have to have gold as an asset to back your loans. Trump is going to tokenize United States commodities assets to back The United States.
• 54:38
  And that's why he said we are going to make America wealthy again. We're going to have so much money. You're not going believe it. I believe him a %. He's a win win so much.
• 54:48
  We're going to keep on winning. We're going to win. If I would, I would do the same thing. He's basically just going to tokenize all the underground assets in in America, which America has always been kind of like, let's exploit everybody else's minerals except ours. You know, and we'll just leave it in the ground.
• 55:05
  But Strategic Metals Act of 1938 shut down all the gold mining assets. There have been mining projects I've been on where there's piles and piles of gold ore everywhere. Billions. I'm like, how can this stuff be sitting in there? Well, it was shut down in 1938 and never mind again.
• 55:22
  Why? Because of all the laws. EIR, California. There's so much gold in California to the Golden State. There's so much gold out here just sitting out there, right?
• 55:32
  A couple of hours away. I'm like, I know where billions are at. And they're going to mine that stuff again. And Trump knows he's going to make California great again. Open up the oil rights off the shore of California.
• 55:43
  Open up mining. He got rid of the EIR reports, the environmental impact stuff, all the environmental wackos stopping mining. That's gone. Executive order. We're coming into a freaking the golden era.
• 55:55
  He said in the golden era, it's going to happen and people are going to become millionaires. They're going to be rich in the mining stock sector. And we're going to be tip of the spear there. We plan this. We were ready for it and we are pumped up for it.
• 56:09
  So, yeah, I think it's a perfect world right now for me. What I see Trump doing. Yes, keep going here because it's going exactly as I thought it would go. And again, to one more piece, I talked about this with Mario at Manico. I said The euro will cease to exist.
• 56:25
  Just like in World War II, Europe was in ruins. This time, the euro will be in ruins. It'll be gone. And Trump will have to come in there and do something and save Europe, just like Patton did, you know, and create the Marshall Plan. This will be an economic Marshall Plan.
• 56:43
  And Trump's going have to step in and save Europe because they're disintegrating. EU is gone. NATO is going to disintegrate. Wanna go to war with Russia. Are you kidding me?
• 56:50
  You wanna go to a Russia? You know, and and Vladimir Putin's like, we've got we've got these little chihuahuas barking, you know, at our biting our ankles over here while they're just destroying everything. And and, you know, from the NATO armies that are coming in the Ukraine, because many of these soldiers are foreign soldiers, mercenaries, NATO military people. Europe wants to go to war with Russia. Are you kidding me?
• 57:12
  Their economy's falling apart. They all disagree. The euro's gonna disintegrate. And in my opinion, this is crazy. It's out there.
• 57:20
  I believe Trump's gonna insert the US dollar into a future Trump Marshall economic plan. Very similar to what when Patton came across Europe, you know, Trump's gonna be coming across Europe and fixing what's happening in Europe. And it's kind of payback, though, too, because a lot of these rich families that took that gold silver, they're from Europe. So that's why he's see all this gold coming back from Europe here back to United States. And I I don't think it I don't think it was randomly recent, like, well, it's time to go back.
• 57:49
  I think Trump seized most of his gold on paper back in 02/2019 when the U. S. Military was out seizing gold and bringing it back. 02/2009. I think what we see now is just the optics of the movie script here.
• 58:04
  But it's going to play out. I think it's going to play out perfect. This market crash right here. Nasdaq down 5.8%, nine hundred sixty two points. We still have we still have a lot of a long way to go here.
• 58:15
  But next, I think, is looking for the decoupling. I don't think there's anything more exciting than to see. We're watching history. The shift was Scott Bissent was saying that the Tiffin effect, all that is happening right now. But it's happening in such a big, big way in slow motion that it's hard to see what's really happening.
• 58:32
  Sometimes we see a stock going down or a Dow Jones or this one. The reality is the entire glacier is being turned upside down to where, you know, at at the the pyramid is being turned upside down. And the tip of that pyramid going down is going be silver and gold and hard assets. That's that's why Trump, when he's flashing his signs, he's flashing an upside down pyramid. What he's really saying, silver and gold will be the tip of the spear in the pyramid.
• 58:57
  That'll be the basis of things upside down. It's kind of like the food pyramid. I don't I wouldn't eat the food pyramid. Yeah, it's all wrong. Just like the economic pyramid, it's all wrong there, too.
• 59:07
  They're going to take the eye, turn it upside down here and put assets to back the dollar. And again, Trump's going to win World War, the World War and economics here by putting gold behind the dollar here. So what you saw, he yeah. He took it out.
• 59:22
  Seth Holehouse: I want to say really quickly is that, one thing that really stuck was stuck with me for my interview with David Jensen is he was describing how the elites do things to basically steal the hard assets. And we said is what they do is they have a cycle. Very simple. Inflate, collapse, acquire. That's what it is.
• 59:39
  They take something. Yes. They inflate the value. All of the average people think, oh my gosh. Look at the housing.
• 59:45
  Look at the market. You know, look. The stock market's going up. Bitcoin's going up. You know, real estate's going up.
• 59:50
  They're putting all their assets into these inflated in these inflated, inflated assets. So they inflate, inflate, inflate. It's it's it becomes this huge bubble. Then they collapse the whole thing. Right?
• 1:00:02
  We saw it after 02/2008. They collapse everything, then they go back in for pennies on the dollar, often as using our own tax money Yes. To then acquire. Right? Inflate, collapse, acquire.
• 1:00:11
  They keep, you know, wash, rinse, and repeat. One thing I wanted to go as as we're kind of rounding out our discussion here, I wanna pull up these historical gold price gold and silver charts. So I wanna look at what happened in 02/2008 because I believe that there's a good chance that we'll see over the next couple of weeks, months or so, we might see gold and silver drop another 10%, fifteen %, whatever. But I wanna go over this because I know you were in these markets at that time and tell people not to freak out. Okay?
• 1:00:41
  So if you look at what happened in 02/2008, okay, silver was at $18 an ounce. Sorry. Here right here. $19.18. 19 dollars 18 cents an ounce in March 2008.
• 1:00:52
  Alright? So by January 2009 or December 2008, silver had lost half its value. Now I bet there's a lot of people in this little movement right here. There's a lot of people that sold all their silver. They thought, my gosh.
• 1:01:05
  It's going it's going. It's gonna go to nothing, but then look what happened after that. It hits it hits the bottom, and then what you see, right, by February right here. By 02/2011, early '2 thousand '11, so from bay basically, this is two, two and a half years, silver went from $9 an ounce to $40 an ounce. Right?
• 1:01:26
  So what? Four times over four times its value. So for all the people right now, like, let's say silver goes back on $20 an ounce. Let's just say in two months, silver's at $20 an ounce. Don't sell your silver.
• 1:01:39
  Don't freak out. And this is my my own advice to myself. I know that you're you're in the same boat as me. It's actually the opposite. Buy, buy, buy.
• 1:01:48
  Right? Like because what's gonna happen is as soon as it hits that bottom, you're gonna see the stock market Yes. Gonna keep dropping down. Right? It's not gonna it's not it's not gonna recover like this.
• 1:01:58
  But you what I think what you're gonna see and this isn't even this is still, like, you know, $40 an ounce is still within the LBMA paper market controlled Maple Aids system. That was, you within that. So what what is your what is your advice to people that are looking at silver dropping? Oh my gosh. Is it $29 an ounce?
• 1:02:17
  I just bought all this silver at $33 an ounce. They're freaking out. What is your advice then? Because you lived you were in precious metals during 02/2008.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, you know, to a little context here, I was I was managing $1,620,000,000 in just 85% silver in 02/2006 and 02/2007 full time. So I know the I know the silver market. I've moved tens of millions of dollars of physical silver. And as I what happened when I left the physical markets, went into the precious metals, primarily silver stock market here.
• 1:02:49
  But I kept my physical all my physical clients went with me. And when that market came down, my physical people, we had experience. So we knew, we're like, we're just going down. Let's see how far they go down. Went all the way down to like September, '9 '90 '8.
• 1:03:02
  And at about ten When it came back over 10, I said, Let's go back in right now. And that's when we really started accumulating mining stocks, right at that bottom there. And I'll tell you what, on the way down, I probably 30% of the people I work with, the experienced people, they just wrote it down. The people with no experience like I got it. They sold it.
• 1:03:22
  I said, don't do it. Don't do it. And sure enough, it bottomed. When it bottoms, it is a it is not this kind of V. It's like this kind of it's like boom, boom.
• 1:03:31
  And then, of course, everyone called John, what's happening? What what do you think is happening here? What does it? It's real metal, man. It's real silver.
• 1:03:38
  You got blown out by the but the Cometz people are mind screwing you with that price. They know as long as you see red, you stare at that screen, you will be poltergeist. It's like you'll be that movie poltergeist. You're staring at the screen long enough like they're back. Well, look at the silver prices going down.
• 1:03:54
  So they're back there. They never they never left. They're going to bring that thing down until you break. And then when you break, they'll be there laughing. You saw the finds that JP Morgan played.
• 1:04:04
  They did play this as a game. You're you're just a pleb out there staring at the screen like you're hanging on, hoping you can change things. But it's a fundamental. You got to focus on the fundamentals here. Silver is a precious metals.
• 1:04:15
  Silver is a manipulated, and they want the silver for themselves. Deflate it. They took all it's like Vegas. You know, everyone rolls their dice on the craps table. Everybody loses.
• 1:04:25
  Here comes the big stick. Oh, and it's that that was the silver when it bottomed there at $9. And then they ran back up. Okay. Place your bets.
• 1:04:33
  Money comes back on the table and they run it back up and roll the dice. If you blew out, you took your money, you left the table, you missed out on the biggest run, you know? And I'll tell you, was that when I was in that, I was I remember staring at the screen. I was outside of all my multi screens going on here and I had I had my silver positions and I had my gold positions, but I had my stock positions too. And as everything started going, said, at silver go take off and the goaling went up.
• 1:05:01
  I think it was up. I think it was in February, February '2 thousand and '8. Gold went up like $190, like one day. I'm like, oh my gosh, here we go, 190. It took off and then I'm watching the stock equities here and I see some stocks still going down, but I see the gold stock starting to vibrate.
• 1:05:16
  I said, here comes the popcorn machine here. All of a sudden they start popping and people were saying, what's going on, John? The stock's still going down. Not all stocks, my friend. Don't worry about the people that you cannot see the dark, the principalities and powers of the air.
• 1:05:30
  You think they're worried about. No, they're buying everything here. The central banks are buying. And what else is happening? 02/2008, the white paper for Bitcoin came out.
• 1:05:39
  02/2008. You know, drop gold, buy Bitcoin. Why? Because we're buying all that cheap silver at $9. These people here, they have people realize it's a whole another world out there, people running the world.
• 1:05:50
  There's a whole another, you know, there's a whole another set of rules out there that are not for the human race. They're out there, they love the history, you know, on backing of gold. Well, they bought it. Well, we were all in. And when that market finally broke, I was on the phone with all my people.
• 1:06:08
  Guess what, you guys? Gold just popped up. Hundred and $90 here. Silver and gold are bounced up here. We're going up.
• 1:06:13
  We're on our way up. Our gold stocks are starting to move here. And by the September, August, a couple of people we had, we picked some stocks that were up 10000%, twelve thousand, sixteen thousand %. It at this point, it was like, we did it. I told you.
• 1:06:31
  And the metals are going up and had people call me saying, John, what's happening? What do mean? What's happening? Are you kidding me? I told you this was going to happen, but you had to hang on.
• 1:06:40
  You sold. You're out of the game. You're done. Goodbye. It's like you you were ready to get married and you walked off the altar right when they were going go out there and make, you know, you know, solidify the marriage.
• 1:06:51
  You have to stick with silver and gold because, you know, this is like, you know, gold and silver are mentioned in the Bible over 400 times. There's a reason for that. Don't let it go. You know, there's a reason why the Ark of the Covenant is described in being baked in gold. You don't sell your you don't sell that when they're printing all this money here.
• 1:07:09
  But the problem is that a lot of people are not a lot of times people are reacting to the price they see on the screen versus focusing on the fundamentals. When you buy your physical gold, just buy it and bury it and forget about it. Don't be looking at the screen, you know, worrying about your gold and silver. Just buy it and bury it, forget it. It will reprice, like Basen said.
• 1:07:29
  And when it happens and you're holding onto it, you're going to feel so good. You're going to feel so good. And you want to play the stock market and have some fun? You're going to feel really good over there. If you do it in both properly and balanced out, you're going to do you're going to do just fine.
• 1:07:44
  This market here, they're going to shake out the loose hands. They're going to shake out the unbelievers. They're going to shake out everybody who doesn't believe in gold and silver. They're to shake them out. They're to take all the cards and then run it back up here.
• 1:07:57
  And everything I talked about earlier will be executed. Will, you and I will be on here telling I'll say, well, Seth, we tried to tell them, you know, they didn't listen. You never met gold, your silver and gold, especially now because this is when they really get it. Anyone who bought gold and silver over the last two years who just kind of bought it because they thought I should protect myself, but they don't have that real foundational belief as to why they're buying it. They're to be struggling.
• 1:08:23
  I get it. I understand. I understand the struggle. It's very difficult to focus on buying more things as it's going down. And in our group, many of our stocks took huge nosedives, but we're experienced.
• 1:08:35
  We knew to buy the dip and we have 100% track record. We learn one thing in the last three years, if it goes down, guess what? It always comes back and goes up. And in this case, the central banks are projected to buy 30% more gold. We have Basel III.
• 1:08:51
  We have Trump. We have Judy Shelton. I mean, this is almost like taking candy from babies. You know? Well, that's what they're doing, but they're taking their silver from babies, you know?
• 1:09:01
  And then the smart money is going to come in and buy that stuff up here. Very, very difficult, though, if you're if you're not focused on the fundamentals. You really, really have to have that foundational piece. If you're focusing just on price action, it's going to it's going to make you emotional. You know, you know, you're going to cry if you say buy it.
• 1:09:19
  He said buy it, bury it and forget it. You know, like a dog, get your bone, dig a hole, bury it and forget about it. I make a pirate ship. You know, Here's the treasure chest. We're going to go betty it.
• 1:09:31
  They don't go, you know, let's go see the price of gold here on the markets here. We better go dig that treasure chest up and sell it. No, they're going to leave it there because the only real store of value that's real is gold and silver. And that's why Fort Knox, the gold that's in Fort Knox, it's a store of value, but it needs to be repriced or, as Basen said, reordered at a new price to go on the balance sheets of the US Treasury here. And if they let it run with the gold price, well, you know, we're going be going up, up and away.
• 1:10:02
  And as you describe here, the debt coming down lower and lower, they can refinance that debt at a lower interest rate, and that gives Trump some breathing room to get what? What did he say? He's got all these executive orders in the mining sector. The mining stocks will be the new components of the S and P, the Dow Jones, other indexes. And as I said in one of my videos, silver and gold mining stocks, primary exploration, junior mining stock, they will be the new crypto.
• 1:10:28
  And this will be the reverse. The end of the silver SIOP is that Bitcoin and crypto end and then gold and silver take over in the golden era here. That's exactly what I see happening here. And we're going I'm going make millionaires out of people. I'm going make a lot of millionaires here and it's going to be fun.
• 1:10:43
  It has been fun. Three years of just having so much fun doing this. It's been, you know, a ton of fun. But that's what I see coming here. It's pretty clear what this is my eighteenth year in the business.
• 1:10:56
  Eighteen years. It's like people ask us, what do you say? Well, I've been doing this for so long. I can read their minds up there. I know what they're going to do.
• 1:11:04
  Why? It's an expensive rock. The central banks want it. They don't want you to have it. They want the gold stocks.
• 1:11:11
  Why? Because everybody wants the next home stake mining, what, 56000% home stake mining during the last depression? Last time, 1929. If you bought home stake mining, you didn't care. Why?
• 1:11:23
  Because home stake just went up year in and year out and people got rich off that. And it's actually one of my oldest clients actually had home stake. I was like, you gotta be kidding. Everyone should research home stake mining. Go back and look at home stake mining.
• 1:11:37
  What that did between 1929 and I believe 1955 all the way until Barrick Mining bought home stake. They'd hide that thing. No. Get rid of Homestake. Why?
• 1:11:47
  Look at the chart. The damn stock made 57000%. We don't want people buying this. Buy it and bury that company here. Everybody should research Homestake mining.
• 1:11:55
  And that stock is like, oh my gosh, I can't believe that, you know. And what happened? Homestake went up. What did they do? They seized your gold.
• 1:12:03
  They took your gold in 1933. You were to sit. You had no gold. But if you owned Homestake mining stock, you got rich. That's gonna happen again, my friend.
• 1:12:14
  And that's exactly what's going to happen, and it's gonna be great. It's gonna be a it's gonna be a hell of a ride.
• 1:12:19
  Seth Holehouse: So, John, in conclusion there you go. I know you you have your Telegram group. What's your website people could find you at?
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: I have a new website. It's real JohnfPerez.com. And I'm on all the social media. My my we're booming our social Instagram, real John F Perez, TikTok, real John F Perez, Instagram, Tiktok, super, super active on there. You know, their civil goes talk.
• 1:12:47
  It's a private it's a private subscription group here. And we we have hundreds of members there that have been with me for three years. Highly educated. I broadcast throughout the day just like this. I never stop.
• 1:12:58
  I never rest. Why? I love what I do, number one. But I know what's happening. I know the script.
• 1:13:02
  I know what's going happen. It's unfolding here. We are ready to go. We are ready to make money. We we prepared for this crash.
• 1:13:08
  We know exactly what's going to go here. And it's a strategic and tactical move here. And this is a combined eighteen years of my experience here. And now it's coming together right here. This is my entire career right here.
• 1:13:18
  The number one goal here in the beginning was all about me. And now it's going to be about all about everyone that I affected. And I've been very clear with my people. I'm going to make hundreds of people millionaires. I did this in the last market with a few people.
• 1:13:31
  This time I took that same plan, tweaked it using social media because social media wasn't around. Oh, wait. Now we got, you know, we got massive firepower here to, you know, to really communicate things. And because of social media, the velocity of information that's going to be out there for the public to buy is 100 times greater because of social media. People are responding quickly here.
• 1:13:52
  So I see these moves in the markets, in stocks, gold and silver. They're going to be violent to the upside. You just put up that that that screen where gold went down, the silver went down to $9.95 and took off. This time it's going to go straight up and then straight down and then straight up even quicker. Why?
• 1:14:10
  Because you have a new generation. The alternative crypto markets are crashing. Bitcoin's kind of sitting still. We don't know where it's going to go. Can it be regulated worse?
• 1:14:19
  It can be regulated. But the bottom line is this. People who ran Go look at the price of gold when they ran that propagandical hashtag drop. Gold has doubled since they put out the propaganda drop gold. They were wrong.
• 1:14:35
  They were if you took advantage of that, but John, you bought Bitcoin, you made money. Well, let's see how that unrolls out when all the Epstein files come out. We'll see how that goes. But either way though, social media has a big impact this time around, which we didn't have. I'm on Telegram.
• 1:14:51
  I broadcast probably twenty, thirty times a day. I give the play by play what's going on and I go into deep dives. You know, it's education. It's hardcore education. I give people what I know.
• 1:15:03
  I don't And I'm very transparent. I don't hold back to. It's uncensored. It's fun to know. I love about Telegram.
• 1:15:09
  It's great here. You know what? We're good to go. We're good to go. With tens of millions in the market here, absolutely we're absolutely stoked, pumped up, excited about what's to happen here.
• 1:15:21
  This is the most exciting period in time in history to ever be involved with these markets here. And we're ready for it. And this again, this is, you know, a bit my career coming together here. I've always been in this business to make people money. I'm not just an analyst who responds or reacts to the news.
• 1:15:38
  I plan, you know, and then I put together investable intelligence for the future. And now, boom, a lot of these predictions are coming together here literally just every day. Boom, another one. And I document these things and the group knows it because I have a little library there. They go back and say, wow, this is coming true.
• 1:15:54
  This is coming true. Just sit back and watch you guys. If Trump resets gold to 10,000, 15 thousand, it'll be about a matter of months here. There'll be millionaires everywhere because we are in the right place at the right time. And you have the right guy here.
• 1:16:09
  It's a strategic plan. It is a tactical plan. And it is based on the powers that be switching into the gold silver market. Because it really, at the end of the day, it's the powers that be. It's like the Rothschild said, He who owns the gold makes the rules.
• 1:16:22
  Well, Trump is gonna come out and say, we got the gold. China's gonna say we got gold too, and it's all gonna switch over.
• 1:16:30
  Seth Holehouse: Exactly. Well, John, it's been fun as as as expected. Thank you for giving me your time. It's it's fun doing a weekend show with you too. More relaxed.
• 1:16:40
  It's it's, yeah. I I I love speaking with you. I always leave just like I'm just like pumped. I'm gonna go, you know, go go, like, chop some wood and chase some chickens around and and have I hear your rooster in the background. But, again, thank you, John.
• 1:16:53
  Make sure I put all your links in the description, and we'll we'll do some in a month or so again, and we'll see Yeah. Things happen. Oh, yeah. It's it's great. Well, thank you again for for all your time and and your wisdom.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: You're welcome. Thank you, and thank you all your audience for everything here. A lot of probably 90% of my people follow this show and are watching right now, so they love the show. Everyone loves the vibe here. So thank you so much, Seth, and I appreciate you having me on.
• 1:17:18
  Seth Holehouse: Of course. Here. Hold up your bar to you. What let me see what you got sitting at your desk there.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: Oh, have a Valkambi kilo bar. This is a Valkambi kilo bar, one kilo of silver.
• 1:17:31
  Seth Holehouse: And
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: Beautiful, beautiful. You know what's funny? It's funny. You know, is on the topic of silver. When I first started my show, the price to come in was like, the subscription was $600.
• 1:17:47
  And I said, If you guys want to pay in silver, fine, pay in silver. You know what? Silver has doubled. So your subscription fee has been reduced by 45%. Why?
• 1:17:56
  Because the power of your silver now, like, I'm getting less silver now. That's like, no more silver. So I tell them it's like, well, I did the math on this. What I all these math people. I said, I'm actually giving you less silver.
• 1:18:09
  I'm actually paying you less and I'm making more. It's like, well, welcome to my world, man. It's like where here you lose weight, you fast, you lose weight and you make money and have a good time. That's the name of the game here. So, this was a gift.
• 1:18:22
  Nice gift. Beautiful bar. I had never had a Valkambi bar, but these Valkambis, they are just beautiful. Come on, focus, focus. There we go.
• 1:18:31
  Valkambi Suisse, one kilogram silver. Beautiful. Beautiful bar. I I I sit here sometimes when I'm when I'm working. I have a little little cotton cloth.
• 1:18:42
  I just sit here and polish it.
• 1:18:44
  Seth Holehouse: I'm working. Same thing on my desk.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: There's something about silver. Well, it's, you know, we that's a whole another show. The benefits of silver, the antibiotic, you know, there's so much to it. I I sleep with a 10 ounce bar under my pillow. I do.
• 1:19:04
  I believe it. Scottsdale mint bar. It's like, it still there? It's still there, know? It's gathering all that good energy, you know?
• 1:19:11
  Seth Holehouse: I believe it.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: And so do I really do. I sleep with 10 ounce silver bar under my pillow. No, I don't put one in my pants though. Anyhow, kilo at the desk, 10 ounce under the pillow. That's, you know, silver is silver is a I think everyone should go to Bible.com and type in silver and just read all the different Bible verses connected to silver.
• 1:19:35
  You'll get you you wake up. If you were out there, you're buying silver as an investment and you're staring at the screen worrying about the price going up and down, go to stop looking at the screen, go to Bible.com, type in silver and just read. And I'm telling you, your eyes will open up in a different way. You'll say, Wow, I never thought about that. And I recommend it to everyone.
• 1:19:55
  You get a proper foundational view of how silver is viewed up from a biblical perspective. It changes your view from staring at the screen. The price is going up. The price is going down. Who cares?
• 1:20:07
  Just get the silver. Why? Because look at the importance of it here. But if it's talked about so much, why is the price not going down? Well, the devil's in the details fooling you and getting wanting you to get rid of that good silver here.
• 1:20:20
  So they keep the price down. Wow. Silver is a horrible investment. It's not going anywhere. You know why?
• 1:20:26
  Well, what if I was the devil, what I do? I'd suppress the price too. Why? So you guys would let it go here. Here's have some have some fake crypto.
• 1:20:33
  Have some fake thin air. I believe there's a use for crypto and silver tokenization. I'm all for that tokenizing what I do here. I'm all I'm all in on that tokenization for crypto. But silver to me, I think everyone should go to, you know, Bible.com, type in silver and read all the and you mark my words.
• 1:20:51
  You will you will not look at silver the same way you have all your life. You really will look at it differently, and you'll have a proper perspective on how you view silver. Well, John, thank you. There we go. You're welcome.
• 1:21:05
  Seth Holehouse: Thank you so much, man. So I hope that you enjoyed that interview. I I told you it was gonna be fun and high energy. I I absolutely love interviewing John Perez. He's that guy's, like, just a whole other whole other kind of person.
• 1:21:18
  He's phenomenal, and he's just so excitable and high energy, but he also he knows his stuff. I mean, a lot of things that we're seeing happen now, he was talking about two, three, four years ago. So he's he's a wicked smart guy, and I'm I'm very thankful to call him a friend. But I wanted to say that, look, if if you are considering moving some of your assets out of the stock market into precious metals, I don't blame you. I I would try to get ahead of it.
• 1:21:42
  Again, this is not financial advice. Do your own research. I'm not a financial adviser. This is just what I'm doing, my approach. I really believe that right now, even if we still if we see silver and gold continue to drop a little bit, it's a buyer's market, honestly.
• 1:21:54
  And right now, I would rather be in this chunk of metal right here than in any stock, in any crypto, in any bond. That's just my personal opinion on it. Now if you are looking for a place that you can trust, like I would tell you, there are a lot of fraudulent places that are that will sell you gold and silver at inflated prices. Sometimes they'll sell you that it's fake. They've got tungsten or some other metal in the inside of it.
• 1:22:17
  So if you're buying for a local coin shop or a pawn shop, please be very, very wary because there's really good fakes that even seasoned people have a hard time detecting. But also, I'm seeing a lot people that are going to these bigger, you know, doing the IRA transfers and stuff. You look at their receipts, and they're, you know, buying a million dollars worth of silver for $3,000,000. I mean, they're being completely ripped off. So if you have someone that you trust that you work with, great.
• 1:22:41
  If you don't, if you're looking for a company you can work with, I've vetted a ton of different companies, and trust me, I've so many gold and silver companies, like, banging down my door to work with me, and I'm so careful. So I work with Noble Gold. I trust them completely. I know the CEO, Colin Plume, extremely well. They're straight shooters.
• 1:22:59
  They're not cheap. Right? They're fair. Like, if someone's selling you gold and silver for cheap, it's a problem. Right?
• 1:23:06
  Because it's a commodity. So you can expect to play pay a little bit over the spot price, and that's it. Right? So if someone's selling you for something that's 5% below spot or everything, run as far as you can go. But, again, if you're looking for someone that you can trust and also, Noble Gold, they specialize in four zero one k IRA transfers and allowing you to move your assets out of the stock market, out of bonds, out of those other investment vehicles, and move them into precious metals without getting all the heavy fees.
• 1:23:33
  Noble Gold is the best in the business. So if you wanna learn more, go to goldwithseth.com. Again, it's goldwithseth.com, or you can just call (626) 654-1906. Start there. Call them.
• 1:23:48
  Ask questions. Ask about the prices. Ask about the process. They'll walk you through everything. And all those the information for that will also be in the show description.
• 1:23:56
  Alright? Take care, and god bless.