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- 0:00Speaker 1: I suspect that the long term bad for JERUMP consumed
- 0:03Speaker 1: right robots is an excess of twenty billion units. So
- 0:06Speaker 1: we're ramping out production in our US factory as well
- 0:09Speaker 1: as building our building megaback factory in China that's such
- 0:13Speaker 1: a roughly double hour output, maybe troubled potentially inclusion.
- 0:17Speaker 2: We're super excited about the progress across the board.
- 0:19Speaker 1: I recommend anyone who doesn't believe that says the will
- 0:21Speaker 1: soult bigle autonomy should not hold test the stop. They
- 0:24Speaker 1: should sell a TESTA stop you should believe will solve autonomy.
- 0:28Speaker 2: You should buy test to stop.
- 0:29Speaker 1: Enabling the fleet to operate like the Giant Autonomous fleet,
- 0:33Speaker 1: and it takes evaluation, I think to some pretty crazy
- 0:36Speaker 1: number of ARC invest thinks on the order of five
- 0:38Speaker 1: trillion dollars. I think they're probably not wrong, and long
- 0:41Speaker 1: term optimists, I think IS achieves evaluation several times that number.
- 0:44Speaker 1: So we'll large adoption acceleration evs and then a bit
- 0:47Speaker 1: of a hangover as other struggle to.
- 0:49Speaker 2: Make compelling evs.
- 0:51Speaker 1: So there's been quite a few competing electric bicles that
- 0:53Speaker 1: have entered the market, and mostly they have not done well,
- 0:56Speaker 1: but they have discounted their quite substantially, which has made
- 0:59Speaker 1: it but the board for Tesla, we don't see this
- 1:01Speaker 1: as a long term issue.
- 1:02Speaker 2: But but really it's a fairly short.
- 1:04Speaker 1: Term and we still obviously firmly believe that evs are
- 1:07Speaker 1: best for customers and that the world is headed for
- 1:11Speaker 1: a fully electrified transport, not just the cars, but also
- 1:14Speaker 1: aircraft and both. Despite many challenges, the Tesla team did
- 1:18Speaker 1: a great job executing.
- 1:19Speaker 2: And we did achieve record quarterly revenues.
- 1:22Speaker 1: Energy storage deployments reached an all time high Q two,
- 1:25Speaker 1: leading to record profits for the energy business, and we're
- 1:28Speaker 1: investing in many future projects, including air training and inference
- 1:32Speaker 1: and great infrastructure to support to future products. We won't
- 1:37Speaker 1: get too much into the product roadmap here because that
- 1:39Speaker 1: is reserved for product announcement events, but we are in
- 1:42Speaker 1: fact to develop to deliver a more affordable model in
- 1:45Speaker 1: the first half of the next year. Really, my father,
- 1:47Speaker 1: the biggest differentiated for Tesla is autonomy. In addition to that,
- 1:51Speaker 1: we have scale economies and we're the most efficient electric
- 1:54Speaker 1: vehicle producer in the world. While while others are pursuing
- 1:58Speaker 1: different parts of the air robotic stac we're presuing all
- 2:00Speaker 1: of them the slows for better cost control, more scale,
- 2:03Speaker 1: cricket time to market, and a superior product applying not
- 2:06Speaker 1: to not just do autonomous to autonomous humanoid robots. Like
- 2:09Speaker 1: optimists regarding full st driving and robot taxi, we've made
- 2:14Speaker 1: a lot of progress with will sub driving in Q two,
- 2:16Speaker 1: and with version twelve point five beginning rollout, we think
- 2:19Speaker 1: customers will experience a staff change improvement in how well
- 2:24Speaker 1: supervised full self driving works. Version twelve point five has
- 2:27Speaker 1: five times the parameters of twelve point four and will
- 2:31Speaker 1: finally merge the highway and city stacks, so the highway
- 2:34Speaker 1: side is.
- 2:34Speaker 2: Soil at this point's pretty old.
- 2:36Speaker 1: So often the issues people like can are on the highway,
- 2:38Speaker 1: but with twelve point five we're finally merged the two stacks.
- 2:41Speaker 1: I still find out that most people actually don't know
- 2:43Speaker 1: how good the system is, and I would encourage anyone
- 2:46Speaker 1: to understand system better to simply try it out and
- 2:49Speaker 1: let the car drive you around. One of the things
- 2:51Speaker 1: we're going to be doing just to make sure people
- 2:53Speaker 1: actually understand the capabilities of the car is when delivering
- 2:57Speaker 1: a new car and when picking up a car for
- 2:59Speaker 1: so is to just show people how to use it
- 3:02Speaker 1: and just drapping around the block. Once people use it
- 3:04Speaker 1: at all, that they tend to continue using it. So
- 3:07Speaker 1: it's it's very compelling, and this I think will be
- 3:10Speaker 1: a massive demand driver. Even unsupervisedable self driving will be
- 3:14Speaker 1: a massive demand driver. And as we increase the miles
- 3:17Speaker 1: between intervention, it will transition from supervisable self driving to
- 3:22Speaker 1: unsupervisable self driving and we can unlock massive potential in
- 3:26Speaker 1: Deeplee were postponed the sort of Robotaxia with the product
- 3:30Speaker 1: unveiled by a couple months, where it's shifted to ten
- 3:34Speaker 1: ten to October, and this is because I wanted to
- 3:37Speaker 1: take some important changes that I think would improve the vehicle,
- 3:41Speaker 1: the sort of the Robotaxi. That think that I think
- 3:43Speaker 1: that we're the main thing that we're going to show
- 3:44Speaker 1: and we're also going to show up a couple of
- 3:46Speaker 1: other things. So moving back, moving it back a few
- 3:49Speaker 1: months allowed us to improve the Robotaxi as well as adding.
- 3:53Speaker 2: A couple of other things the product unveil.
- 3:55Speaker 1: We're also nearing completion of the self expension of Being Texas,
- 3:58Speaker 1: which will has the largest training cluster to day. So
- 4:01Speaker 1: the incremental fifty eight one hundreds plus twenty thousand of
- 4:05Speaker 1: our hardware for or AI cive a Tesla AI computer
- 4:09Speaker 1: with Optimists. Optimis is already forming tasks in our factory
- 4:14Speaker 1: and we expect to have Optimist production version one in
- 4:18Speaker 1: limited production starting early next year. This will be for
- 4:22Speaker 1: Tesla consumption. It's just better for us to iron out
- 4:24Speaker 1: the issues ourselves. But we expect to have several thousand
- 4:28Speaker 1: Optimus robots produced and doing useful things by the end
- 4:31Speaker 1: of next year in the Tesli factories, and then in
- 4:33Speaker 1: twenty twenty six wramping up production quite a bit, and
- 4:37Speaker 1: at that point we'll be providing Optimist robots to outside customers.
- 4:41Speaker 1: WELV production version two of Optimists. For the energy business,
- 4:45Speaker 1: this is growing fast than anything else. This is we
- 4:48Speaker 1: are really demand constrained rather than production constrained. So we're
- 4:51Speaker 1: wramping up production in our US factory as well as
- 4:54Speaker 1: building our building megaback factory in China that's such a
- 4:58Speaker 1: roughly double our output, more than network maybe troubled potentially.
- 5:02Speaker 1: In conclusion, we're super excited about the progress across the board.
- 5:05Speaker 1: We're changing the energy system, how people move around, happy
- 5:07Speaker 1: wople approach the economy, the art taking is massive, but
- 5:10Speaker 1: I think the future is incredibly bright. It really just
- 5:12Speaker 1: can't emphasize just importance of autonomy for the vesical side
- 5:16Speaker 1: and for optimists. Although the numbers sound crazy, I think
- 5:20Speaker 1: Tesla producing app volume with unsupervised MSD essentially the fleet
- 5:25Speaker 1: to operate like a giant autonomous fleet, and it takes evaluation.
- 5:29Speaker 1: I think to some pretty crazy number are invest thinks
- 5:32Speaker 1: on the order of five trillion dollars, I think they're
- 5:34Speaker 1: probably not wrong.
- 5:35Speaker 2: And long term optimists.
- 5:36Speaker 1: Enabling the fleet to operate like the giant autonomous fleet
- 5:40Speaker 1: and it takes evaluation, I think to some pretty crazy
- 5:43Speaker 1: number of ARC invest thinks on the order of five
- 5:45Speaker 1: trillion dollars, I think they're probably not wrong. And long
- 5:48Speaker 1: term optimists, I think is achieves evaluation several times that number.
- 5:52Speaker 1: When can we do on supervidens to full self driving,
- 5:54Speaker 1: It's difficult. My predictions on this have been overly optimists
- 5:57Speaker 1: for the past our trend it seems as though we
- 6:00Speaker 1: should get miles between interventions to be high enough. That
- 6:04Speaker 1: too far enough the access to humans that you could
- 6:06Speaker 1: do untivized, possibly by the end of this year.
- 6:09Speaker 2: I would be shocked if we cannot do it next year.
- 6:11Speaker 1: So nexture seems highly probable to me based on when
- 6:15Speaker 1: simply plus the points in the curve of miles between intervention,
- 6:18Speaker 1: that trend exceeds human pushure next year. I'm quite concerned
- 6:22Speaker 1: about actually being able to get steady art NA gvus
- 6:26Speaker 1: when we want them, and I think this therefore requires
- 6:29Speaker 1: that we put a lot more effort on dojo in
- 6:31Speaker 1: order to have in order to ensure that we've got
- 6:34Speaker 1: the training capability that we need. We are going to
- 6:35Speaker 1: double down on dojo, and we do see a path
- 6:38Speaker 1: to being competitive with the video with dojo, and I
- 6:41Speaker 1: think we kind of have no choice because the demand
- 6:44Speaker 1: for video is so high and that it's obviously their
- 6:48Speaker 1: obligation essentially to raise the price of GPUs to whatever
- 6:51Speaker 1: the market will bear, which is very high.
- 6:54Speaker 2: I think we've really got to make dojo work, and
- 6:56Speaker 2: we will.
- 6:57Speaker 1: Oustmus is intended to be a journalized humanoid robot a
- 7:00Speaker 1: lot of intelligence, So it's like saying, what kind of
- 7:02Speaker 1: accessories where we offered really human It's really intended to
- 7:05Speaker 1: be able to be backwards compatible with human tasks, so
- 7:09Speaker 1: it would be used any accessories that of human reduced.
- 7:11Speaker 1: Trump has said that heavy towers on Bigle's produced in Mexico,
- 7:15Speaker 1: So it doesn't make sense to invest a lot in
- 7:18Speaker 1: Mexico if that is going to be the case. So
- 7:20Speaker 1: we can see where things to play out politically. But
- 7:22Speaker 1: we are increasing in capacity at our existing factories quite significant.
- 7:26Speaker 1: I should say that the cyber taxi or robotaxi will
- 7:29Speaker 1: get produced here at our headquarters that get to Texas, right,
- 7:32Speaker 1: thank you as well, and as well Optimists towards the
- 7:36Speaker 1: end next year for Optimist production version to the high
- 7:39Speaker 1: volume version of Optimists, we're also be produced here in Texas.
- 7:41Speaker 1: I think that there are opportunities to integrate growth into software.
- 7:45Speaker 1: So it was just there was this was this big
- 7:48Speaker 1: accent of a Tesla. There was no sales, the data
- 7:52Speaker 1: centers were full, there was no place to actually put
- 7:55Speaker 1: them be we were. We've been twenty four to seven
- 7:59Speaker 1: to completely the self extension on the Tesla Big factory
- 8:02Speaker 1: here in Texas.
- 8:03Speaker 2: That's self extension is what will house.
- 8:05Speaker 1: The fifty four hundreds and we're beginning to move the
- 8:09Speaker 1: h one hundred server acts each place there. But we
- 8:12Speaker 1: were really needed we needed that to be complete. Physically,
- 8:15Speaker 1: if you can't order computer ordered GPUs and turn them on,
- 8:18Speaker 1: but no, you need a data. Is that it's possible,
- 8:20Speaker 1: don't want to be clear. That was in Tesla's interests,
- 8:23Speaker 1: not country Tesla centries. So the Tesla a no good
- 8:26Speaker 1: to have GPUs that catch enough this, but second that
- 8:29Speaker 1: self extension is able to take the GPUs, which is
- 8:32Speaker 1: really just this week we're moving GPU's in there and
- 8:35Speaker 1: we'll bring them online.
- 8:36Speaker 2: It was about to Xai, the only want.
- 8:40Speaker 1: To work on a GI So what I was finding
- 8:43Speaker 1: was that we're trying to compuble to to Tesla. They
- 8:45Speaker 1: were only interested in working on APM, not testing problems.
- 8:49Speaker 2: And they want to start they do a startup.
- 8:51Speaker 1: So it was case of either they go to a
- 8:53Speaker 1: startup or and I'm involved, or do a startup and.
- 8:56Speaker 2: I'm not involved.
- 8:57Speaker 1: Those are the two choices. This wasn't they were They
- 8:59Speaker 1: were to Tesla. They were not going to come to
- 9:01Speaker 1: Tesla or any circumstances. Yeah, billion people on Earth, so
- 9:04Speaker 1: it's a billion right there. Then you've got all of
- 9:06Speaker 1: the industrial uses, which is probably at least as much.
- 9:09Speaker 2: I's not way more so.
- 9:11Speaker 1: I suspect that the long term evand for general purpose
- 9:14Speaker 1: humanide robots is an excess of twenty billion unit and
- 9:18Speaker 1: Tesla is that has the most advanced humorid robot in
- 9:20Speaker 1: the world, and it is also very good at manufacturing,
- 9:23Speaker 1: which each other companies are not.
- 9:24Speaker 2: And we've got a lot of experience, with.
- 9:26Speaker 1: The most experience where the world leaders in real world
- 9:28Speaker 1: am so we have all of the ingredients. I think
- 9:32Speaker 1: we're unique in having all of the ingredients necessary large scale,
- 9:36Speaker 1: high utility generalized humanoid robots. But that's why my Brough
- 9:40Speaker 1: estimate long term is in accordance with the oar invest
- 9:43Speaker 1: analysis of a mock pap of on the order of
- 9:46Speaker 1: five trillion for maybe more for Commoss transport, and it's
- 9:50Speaker 1: several times that number for general purpose humanide robots.
- 9:53Speaker 2: I mean, at that point, I'm not sure what money
- 9:55Speaker 2: even means. But in the end the.
- 9:56Speaker 1: Benign Ai scenario, we are headed for an age of
- 9:59Speaker 1: abundance where there is no shortage of business services.
- 10:03Speaker 2: Anyone can have pretty much anything. It's a while verty
- 10:05Speaker 2: while future we're edible. The distributed compute, Yeah, just really compute.
- 10:09Speaker 2: That seems like a pretty obvious thing to do.
- 10:11Speaker 1: I think the where the distributed compute becomes in staying
- 10:14Speaker 1: is with the next generation Tesla AI chook, which is
- 10:18Speaker 1: hard of reviable work, which is from the standpoint of
- 10:21Speaker 1: an infurnace capability comparable to B two hundred two hundred
- 10:25Speaker 1: and we're able to have in production at the end
- 10:27Speaker 1: of next year and scale production in twenty six.
- 10:30Speaker 2: So it just.
- 10:31Speaker 1: Seems if you've got even if you've got autonomous vehicles
- 10:34Speaker 1: that are operating four fifty or sixty hours a week,
- 10:36Speaker 1: there's one one hundred and sixty eight hours in a week.
- 10:38Speaker 1: So we have somewhere above I think one hundred neural
- 10:42Speaker 1: nen computing. I think we need a better word, the GPU,
- 10:44Speaker 1: because GPU means craps plus and so there's a higherd
- 10:48Speaker 1: hours plus per week of AI compute AI in burns
- 10:51Speaker 1: compute from the fleet and vehicles and probably some percentage
- 10:54Speaker 1: from human right robots that it would make sense to
- 10:57Speaker 1: do distributed in burns. And if you go there's a
- 10:59Speaker 1: fleet at some point one hundred million vehicles with AI
- 11:02Speaker 1: five and beyond AI six and seven whatnot, and they
- 11:05Speaker 1: may be billions of human or robots.
- 11:08Speaker 2: That is just a staggering.
- 11:10Speaker 1: Amount of inforenced computer or that could be used for
- 11:13Speaker 1: general purpose computing.
- 11:15Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be used for the human drobot
- 11:17Speaker 2: or for the car.
- 11:18Speaker 1: So I think you know that's that's a pretty obvious
- 11:21Speaker 1: thing to say. It's more useful than having to do
- 11:23Speaker 1: nothing with that unique gateway computer too, So it's really
- 11:27Speaker 1: a gateway computer with the cellular and Wi Fi, the
- 11:30Speaker 1: tails like computer and seven cameras report nunt cameras that
- 11:33Speaker 1: get efferency sage review. But this will give it give
- 11:36Speaker 1: them the speed at which the border industry moves. It
- 11:38Speaker 1: would be several years before you receive solution is a
- 11:42Speaker 1: generalized solution. Whatever else has if you see a like
- 11:45Speaker 1: way Moo and what not, that very localized solutions that
- 11:48Speaker 1: requires high density mapping. That's not it's quite fragile. Interability
- 11:51Speaker 1: to expand out, believes is limited. Solution is a general
- 11:54Speaker 1: solution that works anywhere.
- 11:55Speaker 2: It would even work on a different Earth. So if
- 11:57Speaker 2: you're rendered a new Earth, it would work on a
- 11:59Speaker 2: new Earth.
- 12:00Speaker 1: So it's this capability, I think in our experience, once
- 12:05Speaker 1: we demonstrate that something is safe enough or significantly safer
- 12:09Speaker 1: than human, we find that regulators are supportive of deployment.
- 12:12Speaker 2: Deployment of that capability.
- 12:14Speaker 1: It's difficult to argue with if you've got a large
- 12:17Speaker 1: number of If you've got billions of miles that show
- 12:19Speaker 1: that in future unsupervised FSD is safer than human what
- 12:23Speaker 1: regulator could.
- 12:24Speaker 2: Really stand in the way of that.
- 12:25Speaker 1: They're marly obligated to approve, So I don't think regulatory
- 12:29Speaker 1: approval will be a limiting factor. I should aposed to
- 12:32Speaker 1: say that the self driving capabilities of that are deployed
- 12:36Speaker 1: outside of North America are far behind that in North America,
- 12:39Speaker 1: so with the twelve point five and maybe twelve point six,
- 12:44Speaker 1: but pretty soon we will ask for regular regulatory approval
- 12:48Speaker 1: of the Tesla supervised FSD in Europe, China and other countries,
- 12:54Speaker 1: and I think we're likely to receive that before the
- 12:57Speaker 1: end of the year, thank you, which will be a
- 12:58Speaker 1: helpful demand driver in those region. Tops O JAM cancel
- 13:02Speaker 1: it is because JAM can't make it work, not because
- 13:04Speaker 1: of regulators. They're blaming regulators. That's most leading up then
- 13:07Speaker 1: to do because a Waimo is doing just buying in
- 13:10Speaker 1: those buckets. So it's just that their technology is not far.
- 13:14Speaker 1: But there's the sh A number of times I've cooked
- 13:15Speaker 1: with smart people who live in New York or in
- 13:18Speaker 1: downtown Boston and don't ever drive and then are asking
- 13:21Speaker 1: me about FST. I'm like, you can just get a
- 13:23Speaker 1: car and try it, and if you're not doing that.
- 13:26Speaker 2: You have no idea what's going on. This would just
- 13:28Speaker 2: be the Tesla network.
- 13:29Speaker 1: You just literally open the Tesla app and sum in
- 13:31Speaker 1: a car and re sent a car to pick you
- 13:33Speaker 1: up and take you somewhere, and you can. We will
- 13:36Speaker 1: have a fleet that's on the order of seven million,
- 13:39Speaker 1: that a cateful of autonomy. Soon in the US to
- 13:42Speaker 1: come it will be over ten million, then over twenty million.
- 13:45Speaker 1: This is an immense scale and the car is able
- 13:48Speaker 1: to operate twenty four to seven unlike the human driver
- 13:51Speaker 1: the capability to if there's this basically instant scale with
- 13:55Speaker 1: a software. And now this is for a customer and fleet,
- 13:59Speaker 1: so you think of that as being a bit like Airbnb.
- 14:02Speaker 1: You can choose to allow your car to be used
- 14:04Speaker 1: by the fleet or cancel it and bring it back.
- 14:06Speaker 1: You'll be used by the fleet all the time, can
- 14:08Speaker 1: be used by the fleet and some of the time,
- 14:09Speaker 1: and then Tesla would take would share on the revenue
- 14:12Speaker 1: with the customer. But you can think of the giant
- 14:13Speaker 1: fleet of Tesla vehicles as like the giant sort of
- 14:15Speaker 1: Airbnb equivalent fleet, Airbnb on wheels. And in addition, we
- 14:20Speaker 1: would make some number of cars for Tesla that would
- 14:22Speaker 1: just be owned by Tesla and beat that to the fleet.
- 14:25Speaker 2: I guess that would be a bit more like Uber.
- 14:26Speaker 2: But this will be a test a network.
- 14:28Speaker 1: And there's an important clause we've put in every Tesla purchase,
- 14:31Speaker 1: which is that the Tesla vehicles can only be used
- 14:34Speaker 1: in the Tesla fleet. They cannot be used by third
- 14:36Speaker 1: party for or ting. The entire testl of fleet basically
- 14:40Speaker 1: becomes active. And this is obviously maybe the number of
- 14:43Speaker 1: people who don't want their car to own money, but
- 14:45Speaker 1: I think most people will. Yeah, we only find customers
- 14:47Speaker 1: that they can put together a hodge Pludge solution, and
- 14:50Speaker 1: then sometimes they'll pick that solutions and then that doesn't work.
- 14:53Speaker 2: Yeah. I think people don't understand just how much demand
- 14:55Speaker 2: it will be for frig storage.
- 14:57Speaker 1: They really just like the PUP are understating this demand
- 15:00Speaker 1: by product orders magnitude, so that the actual energy total
- 15:04Speaker 1: energy output of state the US grid is if the
- 15:08Speaker 1: power plants can operate at steady state, is at least
- 15:11Speaker 1: to three times the amount of energy it can't be
- 15:13Speaker 1: Producers because there are a huge gap. There's a huge
- 15:16Speaker 1: difference in the from peak to trough in terms of
- 15:20Speaker 1: energy of power generation. In order for a grid to
- 15:23Speaker 1: not have blackouts, it must be able to support the
- 15:27Speaker 1: load at the worst minute of the worst day of
- 15:28Speaker 1: the year, the coldest or hottest stay, which means that
- 15:32Speaker 1: for the rest of the time, for the rest of
- 15:33Speaker 1: the year, it's got massive excess power generation capability, but
- 15:36Speaker 1: it has no way to store that energy. Once you
- 15:39Speaker 1: add battery packs, you can now run the power plants
- 15:42Speaker 1: at steady state. Steady state means that basically any given
- 15:46Speaker 1: grid anywhere in the world can produce in terms of
- 15:48Speaker 1: cumulative energy in the course of the year, at least
- 15:51Speaker 1: twice what it is currently producing.
- 15:52Speaker 2: That's okay, just maybe, I thank you. It's a very
- 15:55Speaker 2: profound thing.
- 15:56Speaker 1: I guess that there would be like some impact, but
- 15:58Speaker 1: I think it would be devastating our competitors and it
- 16:01Speaker 1: would hurt TEXT slightly, but long term probably actually helps Tesla.
- 16:05Speaker 2: It would be my guess. Yeah, but yeah, I said
- 16:08Speaker 2: this before. It's cooled.
- 16:10Speaker 1: If value of Tesla overwhelmingly this autonomy, these other things
- 16:14Speaker 1: are in the noise relative to autonomy, so I recommend
- 16:17Speaker 1: anyone who doesn't believe that says the will soul bigle
- 16:20Speaker 1: autonomy should not hold testa Stop.
- 16:22Speaker 2: They should sell the testa stop.
- 16:23Speaker 1: You should believe Tesla will solve autonomy, you should buy
- 16:26Speaker 1: testa Stop.
- 16:26Speaker 2: And all these other questions are in the noise.