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Lunch with the Clydesdale - James Sprague Got Screwed Worse than we Think · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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  going on everybody it is
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  lunchtime lunch with the
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  Clydesdale oh what is going
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  on what a Monday I uh
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  I have this like hundred and
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  thirty page document that I
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  have to review.
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  It's a technical document.
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  I got to get it done.
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  I've been working on it for
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  a couple of weeks.
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  Really put my head down this morning.
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  Had Siobhan on in the background.
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  Listen to my friend Matt
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  Shingledecker and our
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  director of public safety
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  and just listening and
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  doing doing my thing.
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  And then they all leave and
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  it's Caleb and Siobhan
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  sitting there talking and
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  and savant says well I'm
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  gonna go listen to clyde so
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  if he's not live and I look
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  up and I'm like holy like I
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  gotta go live in like five
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  minutes and so I uh flew
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  down here as fast I could
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  set up all the equipment
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  and I got on the air but
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  damn I just got in his own
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  just got in his own
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  So, yeah,
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  Matt shingle deckers in the chat
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  says hi guys to everybody.
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  He was great.
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  Andy was great.
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  Debbie's great.
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  I'm actually going to have
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  Debbie on Friday.
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  We're going to talk about
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  the climb and a little more depth.
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  And how it's going on today
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  or this nine eleven here in Columbus.
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  And we're going to talk
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  about the workout in depth.
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  A lot of that kind of stuff.
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  We've had them on every year.
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  They're fantastic.
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  They are.
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  The pride and joy of Ohio.
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  CrossFit Crave has one of
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  the best local comps in the state.
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  It's fun and outside the box.
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  Very like old school NorCal
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  classic CrossFit.
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  Just great stuff.
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  And I met Matt as a
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  volunteer back in twenty
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  thirteen or fourteen at one
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  of the regionals.
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  We were on the same team
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  together and he's just an
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  amazing individual.
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  so it was really fun getting
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  to listen to them and see
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  what they're doing in the
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  state of ohio to really
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  improve everything we have
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  going on here so that was
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  um a lot of fun to listen
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  to that this morning man
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  the chat is full already we
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  got trained olive in the
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  house we got megan we got
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  vindicate craig helson terry
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  joseph jay birch omar judy
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  kenneth ken sarah holy cow
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  so so so many people yeah I
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  love you too brother can't
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  wait to catch up with
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  debbie this week um so yeah
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  uh quick turnaround from
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  last night's show to today
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  we went really long last night
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  And one of the things I
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  wanted to kind of rattle
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  around the cage today is
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  one of the things we talked
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  about last night was how
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  James Sprague is getting
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  screwed at NorCal or SoCal,
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  at Waterpalooza SoCal.
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  And I really was thinking about it a lot.
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  And I was in...
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  what was crazy is when I first saw it,
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  I was like,
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  there's no way that Pat Felner
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  should be there.
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  And James Sprague shouldn't,
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  there's just no way.
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  And then I thought about it
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  some more and Carolyn kind
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  of brought it up last night
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  and I'm trying to pull up the, um,
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  the promotion photo for that.
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  Um,
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  because I want to pull that
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  up as a so here's
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  waterpalooza here's the
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  poster the more I thought
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  about it I was like so here
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  is the the poster it's hard
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  to see everybody so I'll
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  pull up their tags that way
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  we can have their names um
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  You have Pat Vellner, Jason Hopper,
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  Justin Medeiros,
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  and Dallin Pepper on Team USA.
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  If you really sit back and think about it,
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  James Sprague has had a
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  better year than all four of those men.
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  Now, it's really close with Hopper,
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  but he has had a better
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  year than everybody else.
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  James won the games in twenty twenty four.
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  He finished first at Wadapalooza.
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  He finished second at WFP.
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  And he finished third at the
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  twenty twenty five CrossFit Games.
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  Dallin finished one place
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  behind him at the games last year.
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  He finished one place behind
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  him at the games this year.
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  And he finished a couple of
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  places behind him at WFP.
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  Justin Medeiros has not
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  really even competed with
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  James Sprague over the last year.
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  Jason Hopper finished fourth
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  at the games last year,
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  finished third at WFP,
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  and finished first at the
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  games this year.
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  He is the only one of the
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  four to have beaten James
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  in a major competition.
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  And yet,
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  it's just like everybody thinks
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  Dallin will be great,
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  and I'm sure he will be.
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  But right now, like,
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  James has a better resume than Dallin.
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  Dallin has two podium finishes,
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  including a championship at
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  the CrossFit Games.
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  Dallin Pepper has one games podium finish.
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  And he has done better in
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  other competitions in the offseason.
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  There is no way in hell that
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  James Sprague should not
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  have been chosen for this Invitational.
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  Now, because it's Invitational,
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  because it's U.S.
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  versus the world...
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  It's up to them to grab whoever they want.
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  But if you're basing this on
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  resume and resume alone,
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  James should be your first
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  seed in front of all four
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  men that were chosen for this event.
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  That's crazy.
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  That's crazy.
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  We went from last year
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  arguing whether James truly
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  was the fittest on earth to
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  now to a point where he
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  truly is the best male
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  athlete in the US and maybe
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  the best male athlete in the world.
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  James should roll up dressed like Run DMC.
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  He should.
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  He should.
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  Full Adidas gear from head to toe.
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  Sarah Cooper, if I was James,
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  I wouldn't even go now if I was invited.
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  I think he has to go.
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  One, I think it's a nice payday,
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  if I remember correctly, from last year.
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  And really, man,
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  tier and wadapalooza are
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  missing out if the team was
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  james jason dallin and
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  justin that is a massive
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  massive win for them as an
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  attraction to this the
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  behind the scenes footage would be insane
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  Sarah says it would be a pity invite.
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  Now.
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  I don't think he can look at it that way.
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  I think he has to within himself,
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  look at his own resume and basically like,
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  this is, this is mine.
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  I earned this.
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  I should have been given
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  this initially and nothing
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  they can say can change that.
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  My resume stacks up better
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  than everybody else at this event.
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  It's his house.
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  And he needs to have the
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  confidence to say that.
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  Because he has put forth the
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  resume that makes that true.
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  Just because he doesn't have
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  the Instagram following
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  that the others do doesn't
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  make him any less of an athlete.
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  It's a team comp,
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  not the volume he needs to be afraid of.
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  Yeah.
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  Like it's an exhibition and
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  I know it doesn't mean a
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  whole lot in the grand scheme of things.
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  It's a fun payday, but it is exposure.
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  It is fun exposure.
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  And he needs to have that
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  confidence in himself that
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  he has earned this.
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  He has become the number one contender.
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  If we were in the fight scene,
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  Jason won the games.
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  But if you look at resumes,
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  James has put up a resume
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  that makes him the number one contender.
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  I don't know how we got on
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  shoe talk in the chat,
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  but that's what happens
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  when you get around
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  crossfitters is they just
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  keep talking about shoes.
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  Sarah Cooper.
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  I agree.
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  James is great.
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  It's just a messy situation.
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  They would only be inviting
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  him because the internet wanted him,
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  not them.
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  Well,
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  I think the only way now he gets an
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  invite is if someone else
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  steps down and I'm not even
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  sure that has the
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  possibility of happening at this point,
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  unless something crazy
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  happened at WFP where
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  someone actually backed out,
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  but it is a nice payday.
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  So it's going to be tough.
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  I just think it's wrong.
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  He's also fun in any workout
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  like he's a showman.
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  He is.
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  I don't understand the
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  Instagram following.
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  We need to get someone on this.
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  One thing is for sure,
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  he is not buying followers.
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  He cannot be accused of that.
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  I agree ed it is their show
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  water palooza can pick
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  whoever they want not us
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  show them they picked the
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  wrong by not attending or
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  watching joseph ramirez
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  says velner has all the
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  myspace followers not not
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  anything current
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  I think he's got some Noah
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  vibes for some people.
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  I'll tell you what,
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  like I was back in the
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  warmup area for most of the games.
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  That kid is just, he's just a good guy.
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  He shares everything he can
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  share with whoever wants to hear it.
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  And I know that people say
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  he talks all the time and he does.
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  But I saw like a really cool
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  relationship like with him and Ariel,
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  like him coming back and
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  talking to Ariel about what he just saw.
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  And she seemed very
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  receptive to hear what he had said.
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  uh didn't James say he
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  himself bought followers or
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  on boys interrupted he
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  probably he might have like
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  early on but he definitely
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  isn't doing it now uh in
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  the IG post Heppner calls
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  him out for not including
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  the fittest North American
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  woman I guess we I didn't
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  even look at that side of it
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  because of the James thing.
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  But I guess you're right.
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  Because we have Raptus, Gazan, Lawson,
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  and Danielle.
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  And Olivia Kerstetter has...
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  A resume-ish.
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  She didn't make the games last year.
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  That's the one thing that
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  she doesn't have going for
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  her is she didn't make the
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  games last year to have
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  that on her resume where
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  the other four do.
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  But I am betting that Alex
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  Kazan does not compete.
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  And
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  because it's an exhibition
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  alexis raptus if her back
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  really is in a bad spot she
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  might withdraw as well so
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  we might have some changes
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  um you may see some of that
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  on the women's side and
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  what's wrong with myspace
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  I'm listening to this show
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  on my transistor radio
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  that's why we love you ken
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  That's true.
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  And Olivia is a tier athlete.
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  She is.
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  The biggest problem is that
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  she didn't make the games last year.
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  So she doesn't have that on her resume.
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  So I think they actually have like,
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  they have something there.
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  Wonder when they'd actually
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  form the rosters.
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  Do we know?
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  I don't think we know.
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  And I'm,
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  if I was gonna bet I would
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  say it was before this
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  year's games when did this
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  come out four days this
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  came out four days ago uh
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  the poster with everybody
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  so that would have been a
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  half a week after the games
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  they announced it they had
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  to have discussions because
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  I know some people said no
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  um shoot crossfit raptus
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  kazan and lawson are all
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  major tbd right now I I
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  agree with that uh crossfit
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  all these women are
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  scratching dent ain't that the truth
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  these appearances could be a
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  part of the tier athlete
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  contracts that then you
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  don't the olivia thing
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  doesn't make any sense so
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  none of this makes sense
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  and I I think us trying to
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  put logic behind it makes
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  no sense that's right jay
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  birch we're only on fm stereo
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  fm stereo or youtube uh ken
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  okay so ken played football
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  with leather helmets but he
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  doesn't remember because of
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  the concussions tear where
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  athletes go to die man
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  tears killing it there are
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  so many athletes wearing
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  tear I mean dallin and jason
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  that's a great group right
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  there um I think isn't that
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  who emma lawson decided to
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  go with um I really love my
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  adidas drop sets I'm still
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  a reebok guy reebok are
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  still my favorite shoes but
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  man the the adidas ones are
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  right there adidas is where it's at
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  Only tier thing I ever
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  bought is swim goggles.
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  So this is like, I'm old, right?
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  And I was a swimmer back in
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  the day and tear had just
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  come into the swimming
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  world when I was swimming
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  and I was so anti-tier.
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  I thought it was like Timu Speedo, Speedo,
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  um, or, or arena.
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  I,
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  I wore arena and Speedo for the most
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  part.
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  Um,
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  And I hated the tear stuff
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  when they first came into swimming.
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  And now that's all anybody
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  wears in swimming.
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  And I'm not a fan of the shoes.
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  The shoes are cut too high
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  on the back and they,
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  they dig into my Achilles.
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  And so I just, I can't wear them at all.
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  Um,
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  Let's see.
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  Photo Scott?
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  Maybe.
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  I've shown some before on here,
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  back when I didn't have as
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  many people listening.
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  Let's see.
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  Scott wore arena suede, I bet.
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  Swedes?
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  I didn't.
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  I was all about the color back then.
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  Everybody's talking about
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  the training specials are okay.
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  Not my favorite, but decent.
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  Yeah, I don't have the specials.
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  I just have the drop sets and I love them.
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  They're nice and wide.
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  I love the rubber toe.
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  I missed it when Reebok went
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  away from the rubber toe.
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  I really missed that.
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  And I drag my toe a lot,
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  like doing lunges and things like that.
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  So I really like that that's back.
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  Tear shoes jacked up my husband's feet.
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  Back to Adidas and Reebok.
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  Did the big CrossFit media
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  announcement happen yet?
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  I'm inclined to believe that
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  that date may not be something big.
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  I know that was put out last week.
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  There's been a little bit of...
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  discourse in what I thought
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  was happening with the sale
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  so I don't really know
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  where we're at with all
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  that um so I don't believe
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  there's been anything announced yet
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  Everybody keeps coming in
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  with strike movement.
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  I tried them and they hit
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  the outside ball of my foot too much.
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  I have so many shoes in my house.
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  I really need to just either
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  give them to Goodwill or
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  because I only wear a couple now.
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  Jenna said something happening today.
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  Okay.
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  Okay.
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  Maybe I'll have to reach out to Jenna,
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  see what's going on.
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  I tried Innovate and have
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  stuck to them since.
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  Yeah, I've never been an Innovate guy.
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  I got a pair of VTU Rads,
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  and I have to say I'm
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  surprised by how much I like them.
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  I have Rad Runners, and I like them a lot.
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  People have strike movements
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  out for delivery.
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  What's happening is new ad campaign.
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  CrossFit is for anyone,
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  but not for everyone.
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  We talked about that last
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  night on the show.
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  They released that yesterday though.
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  they started the, um, CrossFit is the cure,
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  um, campaign yesterday.
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  So I, if that's it,
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  that's like the biggest
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  want wall announcements, uh, today,
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  cause it was actually out yesterday.
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  So anyway,
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  The other thing I wanted to
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  talk about is my wish list
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  for the twenty twenty six games.
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  And it all started with all
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  this rumor of going to Carson.
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  Flying into L.A.
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  is such a pain in the ass.
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  For anybody on the East
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  Coast or in the Midwest,
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  it is such a pain in the ass.
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  I really don't want it to go to Carson.
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  As much as I would like to go there,
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  because I never did.
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  I never went to a games at Carson.
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  It'd be kind of cool to see that,
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  but I don't think my
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  nostalgia for that
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  outweighs the inconvenience
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  or what I would perceive as
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  difficulty for fans getting there.
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  And I said this last night,
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  if we're going for nostalgia,
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  I'd rather go to Del Mar in
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  San Diego and go back to
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  the fairgrounds there and
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  do something around that.
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  And it has an outdoor vibe
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  to it because it's just
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  like a pole barn with a roof.
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  And then you can do stuff
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  around that venue, I'm sure.
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  But really my wish is we
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  keep it centralized in the U.S.
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  to be able to get as many
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  fans there as possible
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  because that's really what
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  we're trying to do.
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  We've made a good step with Albany,
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  and that wasn't great for
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  fan destination.
• 25:45
  So we need to get more
• 25:47
  people to come to a better location.
• 25:53
  I like the thoughts of Madison,
• 25:55
  but it is cumbersome with
• 25:57
  the building of an outdoor venue.
• 26:01
  And the inside of the arena
• 26:03
  in Madison is not awesome
• 26:05
  for the spectator.
• 26:07
  A lot of the seats are broken.
• 26:09
  It's an older venue.
• 26:11
  The jumbotron is not great.
• 26:17
  It's just not great.
• 26:22
  I would like it to stay in
• 26:23
  the central U.S.,
• 26:25
  maybe somewhere like St.
• 26:26
  Louis, maybe somewhere like Nashville,
• 26:29
  something like that.
• 26:31
  We had regionals at
• 26:33
  Nashville for like three years in a row,
• 26:36
  and the place was packed.
• 26:38
  Packed.
• 26:39
  Now, my ultimate goal would be that...
• 26:43
  They come to Columbus
• 26:45
  because Columbus could outfit everything.
• 26:49
  Where the Masters games are
• 26:50
  just a block away is a baseball stadium,
• 26:54
  a soccer stadium, and a hockey arena.
• 26:59
  In addition to the
• 27:00
  convention center that has everything,
• 27:02
  you're like ten minutes from the airport.
• 27:05
  It's an easy airport to get in and out of.
• 27:08
  And there are a ton of
• 27:10
  hotels all around that area.
• 27:14
  including several b b airbnb
• 27:16
  options t-money says the
• 27:22
  vikings training facility
• 27:24
  in minnesota so I saw two
• 27:27
  granite games there
• 27:28
  beautiful complex but it's
• 27:30
  all outdoors you'd have no
• 27:32
  indoor events and there's
• 27:35
  nothing around the venue
• 27:38
  Um,
• 27:38
  I know when we would get done at the
• 27:40
  end of the night,
• 27:41
  trying to find food was very difficult.
• 27:50
  Um, and Denise says,
• 27:51
  and in Columbus we have rogue.
• 27:53
  Yeah.
• 27:53
  Rogue is literally from
• 27:54
  where the masters games are
• 27:56
  being held to rogue is not
• 27:59
  even a ten minute drive.
• 28:03
  Not even a ten minute drive.
• 28:08
  And all the amenities I've
• 28:09
  listed in Columbus haven't
• 28:10
  even touched Ohio State University,
• 28:13
  which has its own arena,
• 28:15
  its own football stadium,
• 28:17
  its own soccer fields.
• 28:20
  It's got so much there as well.
• 28:28
  Judy Reed.
• 28:29
  Who knows Columbus for sure with the arena,
• 28:31
  OSU, Rogue.
• 28:33
  There's so many amenities here.
• 28:35
  And it's an easy
• 28:36
  international airport to
• 28:37
  get in and out of.
• 28:43
  Columbus Airport is a slight
• 28:44
  step up from Madison.
• 28:45
  It is way bigger and way
• 28:47
  better than Madison for sure.
• 28:54
  I know CrossFit, you don't like Ohio,
• 28:55
  but hey, we do have some amenities.
• 29:02
  Brett Owsley,
• 29:04
  I'm going to need your tips
• 29:04
  and tricks for Columbus.
• 29:05
  Leave in eight days.
• 29:11
  Atlanta sucks, but I live near there,
• 29:12
  so I'd love the games to come here.
• 29:15
  Yeah, I would hate, hate Atlanta.
• 29:18
  I used to have to drive
• 29:19
  through there to get from Tallahassee,
• 29:21
  Florida to home.
• 29:22
  It was awful.
• 29:24
  Awful, awful, awful.
• 29:26
  But what I really truly want
• 29:27
  is a festival atmosphere
• 29:31
  where we can get festival
• 29:32
  tickets sold again,
• 29:34
  where people can come in,
• 29:36
  hang out as a community,
• 29:38
  do stuff together,
• 29:39
  maybe watch on big screens
• 29:41
  at either the beer garden
• 29:43
  or the outdoor park and
• 29:45
  hang out and watch CrossFit together.
• 29:49
  And most importantly,
• 29:50
  a place where you can do
• 29:51
  the campground again,
• 29:53
  where people bring RVs, bring tents.
• 29:58
  They had glamping options the one year,
• 30:00
  but you can all come and
• 30:02
  hang out in this area and relax.
• 30:07
  do wads in the dirt,
• 30:09
  do wads with friends there.
• 30:12
  Mayhem did activations.
• 30:16
  It was amazing.
• 30:18
  I think the loss of the
• 30:19
  campground is bigger than
• 30:20
  people think it is.
• 30:21
  It gives an economical way
• 30:23
  for people to come watch
• 30:25
  the games and kind of hang
• 30:27
  out and make it that festival feel.
• 30:32
  And yes, Ed, it is jazzy.
• 30:42
  Megan says, sure she does.
• 30:45
  Campground is the best.
• 30:47
  Right.
• 30:48
  It's what gives it the festival feel.
• 30:50
  People can just walk up from
• 30:52
  the campground and walk
• 30:54
  back to their camp in and
• 30:56
  throughout the day.
• 31:03
  Brett,
• 31:03
  we camped each year in Madison and
• 31:05
  it was great.
• 31:09
  Like tailgating on steroids.
• 31:15
  It has to be easy to get to
• 31:17
  or a destination to be there.
• 31:19
  That is one of my complaints with Madison.
• 31:21
  Madison was so small that
• 31:23
  the price of hotels went
• 31:25
  through the roof.
• 31:26
  There was price gouging.
• 31:28
  Yes, we had the campground.
• 31:30
  Yes, we had the festival.
• 31:32
  But in the airport was super tiny.
• 31:34
  People had to fly to Chicago
• 31:36
  and drive to get better deals.
• 31:41
  We need to find someplace
• 31:42
  better than that.
• 31:43
  I think Nashville, I think St.
• 31:45
  Louis, I think Columbus,
• 31:48
  I think those are bigger
• 31:49
  and better cities to handle
• 31:53
  that kind of thing.
• 32:00
  Gas South Arena in Atlanta
• 32:03
  would actually be a good venue.
• 32:05
  They have concerts there and
• 32:06
  a minor league hockey team,
• 32:08
  and it's a pretty good area of Atlanta.
• 32:10
  But could you do anything outdoors?
• 32:16
  Does it add the festival feel?
• 32:19
  That's what I don't want to lose.
• 32:34
  raleigh or charlotte maybe a
• 32:36
  florida college town
• 32:38
  chicago but no camping
• 32:39
  boston sprawl could sadly
• 32:41
  do it chicago would be
• 32:46
  expensive just with the
• 32:48
  union rules there florida
• 32:50
  college town isn't bad I
• 32:52
  don't that doesn't sound bad to me um
• 32:57
  I think any college town,
• 32:59
  if you could somehow get a
• 33:02
  spot on campus in the summertime,
• 33:05
  it would be compelling.
• 33:19
  Kansas City is not a bad option.
• 33:21
  And you have two Kansas
• 33:22
  cities to choose from.
• 33:23
  You have Kansas City,
• 33:25
  Kansas and Kansas City, Missouri.
• 33:27
  The Kansas City,
• 33:28
  Kansas is where a lot of
• 33:31
  the big sporting venues are
• 33:32
  like the NASCAR track, things like that.
• 33:38
  Those would both be good.
• 33:42
  And the barbecues out of this world.
• 33:50
  Nashville's got a good airport.
• 33:52
  I just don't know where you
• 33:54
  would do the festival feel.
• 34:00
  I don't know Nashville enough.
• 34:02
  I've only ever really hung out downtown.
• 34:05
  So I'm sure there are places.
• 34:09
  Maybe where the old Opryland
• 34:13
  amusement park was.
• 34:14
  I think they've shut that down.
• 34:16
  Could do some stuff out there.
• 34:17
  And there is an arena there.
• 34:27
  Chiefs and Royals play in Kansas City,
• 34:28
  Missouri.
• 34:30
  I can drive there.
• 34:32
  Yep.
• 34:38
  Yeah, the Titans are getting a new stadium,
• 34:39
  so I don't know where
• 34:40
  they're at with all that, but sure.
• 34:51
  Nashville is one of my favorite cities,
• 34:52
  and Paper Street Coffee is there.
• 34:54
  Yeah, you've got proven headquarters.
• 34:57
  Yeah.
• 35:02
  Interesting.
• 35:06
  Lots of interesting choices.
• 35:12
  I just think the festival
• 35:13
  feel has to come back.
• 35:15
  And I think a campground has to come back.
• 35:18
  Those are the things that
• 35:19
  like are must haves.
• 35:22
  I'm not as like,
• 35:24
  like I thought the races
• 35:25
  were fine inside.
• 35:28
  I do like the outdoor
• 35:29
  apparatus sometimes better,
• 35:32
  but I think that we need to
• 35:33
  bring back a campground and
• 35:35
  we need to bring back a
• 35:36
  festival feel regardless of
• 35:39
  the arena and the stuff around it.
• 35:41
  Those are the two things
• 35:43
  that if you're going to get
• 35:44
  back to your North star as
• 35:46
  CrossFit that you need to have.
• 35:54
  Murat says Bridgestone Arena
• 35:56
  is right downtown Nashville on Broadway.
• 35:58
  It's an amazing arena,
• 35:59
  but there's nothing to camp
• 36:01
  or do an RV park around a
• 36:04
  Bridgestone Arena.
• 36:20
  We don't want it in Des Moines.
• 36:22
  It was a hundred and
• 36:22
  seventeen two days before the games.
• 36:26
  You can't predict the
• 36:27
  weather for the most part.
• 36:30
  Now, you know that if you're in Texas,
• 36:33
  it's going to be hot.
• 36:34
  You know, if you're in Arizona,
• 36:35
  it's going to be hot.
• 36:37
  But man,
• 36:38
  there were some hot days in Madison.
• 36:41
  You know, when Andy didn't get any water,
• 36:43
  there was it was super hot
• 36:44
  that day on Murph.
• 36:48
  can be hot everywhere so
• 36:51
  like we can't truly predict
• 36:52
  that find a division three
• 37:00
  college with a seven
• 37:01
  thousand seat arena and
• 37:03
  small football stadium that
• 37:06
  would be perfect and if
• 37:07
  you're on a college campus
• 37:08
  you will have like all
• 37:09
  those parking lots to have
• 37:11
  like an rv park
• 37:13
  maybe you have like some
• 37:14
  soccer state or fields or
• 37:16
  something that you can use
• 37:18
  to like camp tent camp on
• 37:30
  do they want the festival
• 37:31
  feel for the games I think
• 37:32
  if they don't that it's a mistake
• 37:35
  You can still have the
• 37:36
  festival feel with having
• 37:37
  it in indoor games.
• 37:39
  What I'm saying is you need
• 37:41
  to have a campground, an RV park,
• 37:45
  things to do for people to walk around.
• 37:47
  The other thing that the
• 37:48
  festival ticket gave was a
• 37:50
  cheaper way to get into the
• 37:52
  games and enjoy the games
• 37:54
  without paying five hundred
• 37:55
  dollars a seat.
• 38:00
  And then it's more
• 38:00
  accessible to the community.
• 38:03
  And then during the day,
• 38:04
  that community would work out.
• 38:07
  That's why it gave it this
• 38:08
  cool woodstock of fitness feel.
• 38:13
  There are activations everywhere.
• 38:17
  When we were in Madison,
• 38:19
  Jamie was like itching to
• 38:21
  get to activations.
• 38:23
  She did a proven activation.
• 38:25
  She did a mayhem activation.
• 38:27
  She did all those things.
• 38:30
  That's what made it great.
• 38:44
  The campground may be tough.
• 38:47
  Need to find a venue that
• 38:48
  actually has one next door.
• 38:51
  Or, I mean, Madison,
• 38:52
  that wasn't really a campground.
• 38:55
  It was,
• 38:56
  there was a field that they let
• 38:57
  people put tents in.
• 39:03
  Put it where the Hurricanes
• 39:04
  play in Raleigh.
• 39:05
  People tailgate hockey there for F's sake.
• 39:10
  if you don't have multiple
• 39:11
  outdoor events you're not
• 39:12
  finding you aren't finding
• 39:13
  the fittest see I think
• 39:15
  that that's I don't think
• 39:16
  that that is accurate I do
• 39:18
  think that it's part of the
• 39:20
  unknown and unknowable but
• 39:22
  I think we found the
• 39:23
  fittest this year with what
• 39:25
  we did I think it was a
• 39:26
  balanced test I think we
• 39:28
  found the fittest but it
• 39:31
  does it it lacked the iconic
• 39:35
  events of the past.
• 39:39
  But I think this year we
• 39:40
  didn't need iconic.
• 39:42
  We needed back to our North star,
• 39:44
  which is what we did.
• 39:46
  We got back to what was important.
• 39:55
  Cross fat.
• 39:56
  We don't need a campground,
• 39:58
  just a tailgate lot with loose rules.
• 40:02
  Yeah, that always goes well.
• 40:11
  Broadcast budget stays cheap indoors.
• 40:16
  When like,
• 40:16
  I know from like talking to
• 40:18
  Heather Lawrence,
• 40:20
  like the MVP arena or
• 40:23
  Dickie's arena in Fort Worth,
• 40:25
  it was literally a plug and
• 40:27
  play broadcast system.
• 40:29
  They just bring their unit,
• 40:31
  they plug it in and it's ready to go.
• 40:34
  Where in Madison,
• 40:35
  they have to bring trucks
• 40:36
  in to be able to do that.
• 40:39
  And they have to kind of set
• 40:40
  up their own system,
• 40:42
  which actually takes an
• 40:43
  additional week to do so.
• 40:48
  So that's why they're
• 40:48
  looking for these more
• 40:50
  modern arenas to do that.
• 40:55
  Madison was not plug and play.
• 40:57
  It was not.
• 40:58
  They had to bring in trucks
• 41:01
  that supplied a lot of what
• 41:02
  they needed outside the arena.
• 41:10
  Yeah, they bring trucks in for all,
• 41:12
  but they had to have
• 41:13
  dedicated trucks for
• 41:15
  certain aspects in Madison
• 41:17
  that were not needed at
• 41:18
  Dickey's or at MVP.
• 41:24
  And it was a week lead up
• 41:26
  time to get it ready.
• 41:28
  That's what Heather told me
• 41:29
  was the biggest change
• 41:31
  going from Madison to Fort worth.
• 41:39
  Yeah,
• 41:40
  we've got lots of options in the Midwest.
• 41:43
  Um,
• 41:44
  and I just think we need to kind of
• 41:45
  keep it as central as possible.
• 41:48
  My guess is we're probably
• 41:49
  going to be wrong and we'll
• 41:50
  go back to some place like Carson.
• 41:54
  But I'm because it is the twentieth,
• 41:56
  but I just don't I don't
• 41:57
  think that's the best
• 41:58
  option for where CrossFit is right now.
• 42:02
  We need to regrow.
• 42:05
  And not take big leaps to
• 42:08
  things like that.
• 42:12
  I'm going to finish with
• 42:12
  something non-CrossFit
• 42:14
  because we've been
• 42:15
  CrossFitting it all along.
• 42:17
  I watched the Billy Joel
• 42:18
  documentary over two weekends.
• 42:21
  It's a really long documentary on HBO,
• 42:24
  probably three plus hours.
• 42:27
  And I'm old.
• 42:30
  I love Billy Joel.
• 42:31
  He's been one of my favorite
• 42:33
  singers my whole life.
• 42:37
  Found the documentary fascinating.
• 42:44
  it's amazing what alcoholism
• 42:48
  can do to ruin a person's life.
• 42:54
  He had a wife who was his
• 42:56
  manager who got him out of
• 42:59
  a lot of trouble from miss
• 43:02
  assigning contracts that he
• 43:03
  lost a lot of rights to
• 43:05
  early on and gave through
• 43:09
  that relationship away over alcohol.
• 43:12
  He gets straight a little bit,
• 43:15
  meets Christie Brinkley,
• 43:16
  gets into a relationship with her,
• 43:18
  ends up throwing that away over alcohol.
• 43:24
  Another manager steals everything he has,
• 43:27
  takes him down to nothing again,
• 43:30
  marries another woman,
• 43:31
  can't quit the alcohol,
• 43:33
  and loses her three marriages,
• 43:35
  all done because he
• 43:36
  couldn't quit drinking.
• 43:39
  And it wasn't until Elton
• 43:42
  John tells him that he's
• 43:45
  being a wuss about his
• 43:46
  rehab and he needs to go to a hard rehab.
• 43:49
  And when Elton John's telling you,
• 43:51
  you need rehab, damn,
• 43:54
  you need some rehab.
• 43:59
  so uh he finally gets the
• 44:03
  rehab and and he's doing
• 44:04
  well now and that's why
• 44:06
  he's been doing these
• 44:08
  madison square garden shows
• 44:09
  forever and touring a
• 44:11
  little bit more but damn
• 44:13
  like to throw all that away
• 44:16
  during this successful
• 44:17
  career over alcohol just seems crazy
• 44:21
  Didn't he crash into
• 44:22
  somebody's house in Long Island?
• 44:24
  He did.
• 44:25
  I think he actually crashed
• 44:26
  into the tree in front of the house,
• 44:28
  not technically into the house.
• 44:31
  But yeah.
• 44:35
  Lots of DUIs.
• 44:39
  And what's really
• 44:40
  fascinating is the man
• 44:42
  wrote all these songs truly
• 44:44
  about what he was going through in life.
• 44:46
  And if you go back through
• 44:47
  his catalog and you're
• 44:49
  watching the documentary,
• 44:51
  you can actually like pair
• 44:52
  up the song talking about what happened.
• 44:55
  Like he has a song called
• 44:58
  You May Be Right.
• 45:00
  I may be crazy,
• 45:01
  but it just may be a
• 45:01
  lunatic you're looking for.
• 45:03
  And it talks about riding
• 45:06
  his motorcycle in the rain, intoxicated.
• 45:10
  It was truly a fight he had
• 45:12
  with his first wife that
• 45:14
  she said that you were out
• 45:17
  drinking and driving on a motorcycle.
• 45:20
  What were you thinking?
• 45:21
  And he goes, well, I made it home safely.
• 45:23
  And she said, you may be right,
• 45:24
  but you're crazy.
• 45:26
  And he wrote that song about
• 45:28
  that argument.
• 45:29
  And it's really cool how like,
• 45:32
  As you go through this whole documentary,
• 45:36
  his catalog kind of goes with it,
• 45:38
  which is crazy.
• 45:42
  Yeah,
• 45:43
  his latest tour did get canceled due
• 45:44
  to health issues.
• 45:46
  I'm sorry you didn't get to see that,
• 45:48
  George.
• 45:54
  If you listen to Piano Man
• 45:56
  like he's in a gay bar, it's way funnier.
• 45:59
  I will try that out.
• 46:02
  I have a hard time listening
• 46:03
  to Piano Man at all anymore.
• 46:04
  It was so overplayed in my life.
• 46:07
  That is one of my least
• 46:09
  favorite Billy Joel songs.
• 46:11
  But I do... I've been collecting...
• 46:16
  vinyl billy joel vinyl um
• 46:20
  forever trying to find them
• 46:22
  in little record stores and
• 46:24
  stuff and I was able to
• 46:26
  complete the collection
• 46:27
  maybe two weeks ago uh
• 46:29
  river of dreams was
• 46:30
  reissued so I was able to
• 46:32
  get a copy of that
• 46:33
  And now I have every album
• 46:35
  that Billy Joel every put out on vinyl.
• 46:38
  Um, and he's not my like number one,
• 46:42
  but he's probably top five
• 46:44
  for me for sure.
• 46:45
  Uh,
• 46:45
  I got to see piano man meets the rocket
• 46:48
  man tour, which was fantastic.
• 46:52
  It was like almost four
• 46:53
  hours of straight music of
• 46:54
  him and Elton John going back and forth,
• 46:57
  which is, uh,
• 47:05
  Uh, CrossFit, I don't think that is,
• 47:08
  those are the words.
• 47:14
  Vienna.
• 47:15
  Excellent song.
• 47:16
  Vienna is about his father.
• 47:18
  Uh,
• 47:18
  his father was an immigrant in the
• 47:21
  United States.
• 47:22
  Couldn't handle it in the U
• 47:23
  S and left them when he was
• 47:25
  eight years old,
• 47:26
  when Billy was eight and
• 47:27
  his father went back to Vienna.
• 47:29
  And that's really a song about his dad.
• 47:38
  uh two thousand three time
• 47:40
  frame he and elton toured
• 47:41
  together three and a half
• 47:42
  hour shows yeah I saw him
• 47:44
  in ninety maybe ninety four
• 47:50
  ninety four on that tour
• 47:52
  really early on billy and
• 47:58
  elton are two of my faves
• 48:00
  what a great show the two
• 48:01
  of them together yeah
• 48:03
  fun stuff but if you get a
• 48:05
  chance it's a great
• 48:06
  documentary I did not I was
• 48:08
  not bored at all through
• 48:09
  this documentary it just
• 48:10
  kind of clipped along um
• 48:13
  it's got a great soundtrack
• 48:14
  to it if you're a Billy
• 48:14
  Joel fan uh but the story
• 48:16
  behind it all is really
• 48:18
  crazy uh and really fun to
• 48:21
  watch and listen to
• 48:29
  do we have gotten vienna
• 48:30
  without the alcohol hard to
• 48:32
  say I think we would have
• 48:33
  got vienna I'm not sure we
• 48:35
  would have got some of the
• 48:36
  later stuff sometimes one
• 48:43
  man's demons create
• 48:44
  treasures for humanity yeah
• 48:47
  I think that eric clapton
• 48:50
  is proof of that
• 48:56
  uh sounds like something to
• 48:57
  watch today once I'm off
• 48:57
  here jay birch you'll love
• 48:59
  it now you'll probably have
• 49:00
  to it'll take you a couple
• 49:01
  times it's it's long it's
• 49:04
  actually done in two parts
• 49:05
  on hbo episode one and
• 49:07
  episode two christy
• 49:12
  brinkley hachimachi still
• 49:14
  she's in the documentary
• 49:16
  all of his ex-wives are in
• 49:17
  the documentary present day
• 49:20
  talking about their relationships
• 49:23
  from his first wife to his
• 49:25
  now fourth wife.
• 49:31
  And they are all very attractive.
• 49:34
  He definitely outkicked his
• 49:35
  coverage on every single wife.
• 49:39
  His first wife, right down my fairway,
• 49:42
  baby.
• 49:44
  She is smoking to this day.
• 49:55
  My favorite,
• 49:55
  Steven Tyler being so coked
• 49:57
  out that when he heard an
• 49:58
  Aerosmith song on the radio,
• 50:00
  he didn't even know it was Aerosmith.
• 50:03
  Yeah, legendary partiers, man, legendary.
• 50:14
  But we'll leave you guys with that.
• 50:18
  I'll be back tomorrow.
• 50:19
  We'll see if there is going
• 50:20
  to be any big CrossFit news today.
• 50:22
  If so, we'll talk about that tomorrow.
• 50:25
  But again,
• 50:26
  thank you for having lunch with me.
• 50:28
  I can't wait to hop on with
• 50:29
  you again tomorrow.
• 50:30
  We'll do lunch with the Clydesdale again.
• 50:34
  And still have not heard
• 50:36
  from masters or legends
• 50:38
  about media for the games,
• 50:40
  but hopefully we will soon.
• 50:43
  With that guys,
• 50:44
  we'll talk to you tomorrow.
• 50:46
  Have a great day and you
• 50:48
  knuckleheads get back to work as well.
• 50:51
  Bye guys.