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Ten Things The Preseason Magazines Have Wrong About The Buckeyes · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Buckeyes Tomorrow morning. For Monday, June second,
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Speaker 1: there are eighty nine days until the Texas game and
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Speaker 1: Tony Gerdaman here with Kevin noon. Tom is out on assignment,
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Speaker 1: and Kevin. If any of those numbers were wrong, it's
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Speaker 1: because Tom gave them to me wrong, which we know
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Speaker 1: he already did since he wrote that Monday was June third.
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Speaker 1: So any of those countdown numbers are wrong? Have you
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Speaker 1: ever have you ever sabotaged somebody on purpose like Tom
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Speaker 1: just tried to do to us, and maybe it succeeded.
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Speaker 1: I don't know about the countdown days, but certainly this
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Speaker 1: is the fourth I think third or fourth start of
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Speaker 1: this show, thanks some part to Tom.
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Speaker 2: Now, I don't sabotage people I like. Now I would
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Speaker 2: sabotage Tom, but I don't sabotage people I like.
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Speaker 1: Fair enough, fair enough, So we are here Tom. Like
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Speaker 1: I said, Tom's out for a while. He will be back,
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Speaker 1: but the show must go on. And there's still there's
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Speaker 1: there's always stuff to talk to talk, but there's Campley
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Speaker 1: coming up, those official visits that we'll be recapping as well. Also,
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Speaker 1: something that happened this weekend is Kevin, the national magazines
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Speaker 1: have started to hit the shells. I found one at
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Speaker 1: Barnes and Noble. I think others have found there's at
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Speaker 1: other Barnes and Nobles. So the Athlon and the Lindy's
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Speaker 1: national magazines are both out. I think the phil Phil
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Speaker 1: still digital, maybe hits next week to the people who
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Speaker 1: have purchased early, So maybe we can talk about that
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Speaker 1: next week. But what we wanted to do because we
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Speaker 1: both sometimes we complained about some stuff, so I thought,
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Speaker 1: you know what, let's complain about the magazines and let's
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Speaker 1: talk about some of the things that they got wrong
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Speaker 1: about Ohio State. Now has the season played out yet, no,
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Speaker 1: so they may be right. I don't think they will be, Kevin.
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Speaker 1: And that's that's what I wanted to talk about today,
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Speaker 1: and we'll go back and forth and discuss some of
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Speaker 1: those things that they got wrong. I'll go first because
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Speaker 1: they have their Heisman watch list and they have this
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Speaker 1: annoys me to know and arch banning number one. Then
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Speaker 1: they have garretts Meyer and Kid Klubnick. And then they
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Speaker 1: have the most proven of that group, Jeremiah Smith, and
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Speaker 1: that kind of I think that's kind of wrong understanding
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Speaker 1: that he's a receiver, but he is so well known
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Speaker 1: right now that half the battle is won for him.
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Speaker 1: But I think maybe the thing that bothers me most
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Speaker 1: is Drew Aller's fifth, Like Jeremiah Smith and Drew Aller
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Speaker 1: should not be touching on a heisman list like that.
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Speaker 1: So that was the first thing, and it was maybe
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Speaker 1: like eight pages in that. I think they got wrong
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Speaker 1: about the buckets. I think Jeremiah Smith will either be
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Speaker 1: higher or much further away from Drew Aller and the
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Speaker 1: heisman balloting.
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Speaker 2: I have a huge issue with all of this preseason
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Speaker 2: hype that Garrett ands Meyer is getting. And you know,
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Speaker 2: I have a buddy who covers LSU and he's like,
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Speaker 2: I don't know what you kind of gavest this kid.
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Speaker 3: I'm like, generally, if I say a kid's.
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Speaker 2: Bad, he's Jack Cone uh, And I'm generally proven right,
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Speaker 2: But you know, I just I don't.
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Speaker 3: I don't get it.
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Speaker 2: I have no faith in Brian Kelly, I have no
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Speaker 2: faith in that offense there. So it just seems to
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Speaker 2: be a real mess there. Jeremiah loved the Notre Dame
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Speaker 2: running back number ten I feel he's he's too low.
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Speaker 2: Julian Sayin was thrown on the list just because you
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Speaker 2: look really stupid if you don't have him on the
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Speaker 2: list if he turns into something.
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Speaker 3: But then again, going into.
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Speaker 2: Last season, there was a lot of, well Will Howard,
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Speaker 2: we just need to put him on the list or whatever,
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Speaker 2: and we never really had any real Will Howard discussion.
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Speaker 3: Yet Will Howard went out and led.
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Speaker 2: The buck Geys to a national championship. So it does
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Speaker 2: show some of the unevenness of it all. But yeah,
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Speaker 2: I just I think the I think it's wide open.
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Speaker 2: I think it is so wide open this year, there's
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Speaker 2: nobody on the list that I'm just like, oh, you know, okay.
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Speaker 2: I mean I've been beaten over the head.
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Speaker 3: With arch Manning. I get it. I get it.
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Speaker 2: We're gonna see him week one. I'm either going to
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Speaker 2: be like, yep, he's pretty good or told you. But now,
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Speaker 2: there should be no there should be no touching. There
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Speaker 2: should be no adjacency between Drew Alar and Jeremiah Smith
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Speaker 2: other than they are both human mammals and that's about it.
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Speaker 3: All right.
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Speaker 1: So was that was that your first one? Just the
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Speaker 1: Garret nest Meyer of it all or do you want
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Speaker 1: to talk about something else? You got quite the list?
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Speaker 3: I got quite the list.
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Speaker 2: I mean it's it's I mean it may not be Festivus,
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Speaker 2: but I you know, I got I got problems with
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Speaker 2: you people. And my problem was with Lindy's. And I
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Speaker 2: haven't gone through my ath long yet. My first issue
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Speaker 2: with the Athlon magazine is they found a substance lighter
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Speaker 2: than paper to print it on. And that's an issue
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Speaker 2: I have with phil Steel magazine too, is that, like,
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Speaker 2: it's the ink is terrible on that and you if
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Speaker 2: you just sit there and you're like, I think I
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Speaker 2: may be a little sweaty, the whole magazine run.
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Speaker 3: So uh.
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Speaker 2: The first one I have here is they talked about
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Speaker 2: top transfers and they had it broken down into transfer
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Speaker 2: transfers and non quarterback transfers, and nowhere on there did
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Speaker 2: I see bo Atkinson or Max Player transferring into Ohio State.
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Speaker 2: So you would think that that would mean that Lindy's
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Speaker 2: would be very bullish on Ohio State.
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Speaker 3: We'll get into this in a minute.
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Speaker 2: They probably not super bowlish, but I'm I'm not exactly
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Speaker 2: sure how neither Atkinson nor Player uh made the list,
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Speaker 2: and there certainly were some some some questionable ones that
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Speaker 2: did make it in instead of cho slam dunks.
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Speaker 1: That kind of goes along with my next one, and
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Speaker 1: that they have their Transfer Portal winners and losers, and
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Speaker 1: it's it's five of each. But they didn't have Ohio
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Speaker 1: State among the winners. And this is where you start
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Speaker 1: talking about netpicking, because everybody that they have listed, maybe
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Speaker 1: pick some people up, but I think when you go
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Speaker 1: and you get a left tackle and you're going to
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Speaker 1: get it arguably the starting the best tight end in
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Speaker 1: the portal and the best defensive end in the spring portal,
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Speaker 1: then I would consider Ohio State one of the winners.
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Speaker 1: Maybe not, maybe they didn't make the cut for.
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Speaker 3: The top five.
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Speaker 1: And I don't know what the RPI is on all
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Speaker 1: of that, but I think we came away. I came
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Speaker 1: away with Ohio State being one of the winners of
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Speaker 1: the portal. And that's not even mentioning like a Philip
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Speaker 1: Daniels or Logan George that Logan George is certainly going
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Speaker 1: to be part of the of the defense, you would think,
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Speaker 1: but I would consider them winners. They're winners. LSU and
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Speaker 1: Texas Tech who signed everybody under the sun. You can
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Speaker 1: understand that Auburn and landing former Oklahoma star quarterback Jackson Arnold.
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Speaker 1: And I'm using the term star loosely, kind of like
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Speaker 1: when people say a shooting star. That's a very loose
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Speaker 1: definition of a star. In fact, it's inaccurate a mission
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Speaker 1: of the star. Oregon is one of the winners and
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Speaker 1: Oklahoma is one of the winners. Oklahoma famously losing star
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Speaker 1: quarterback Jackson Arnold still a winner because they landed a
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Speaker 1: better quarterback in John Mattier. So maybe Ohio State would
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Speaker 1: be a winner if they had landed any kind of
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Speaker 1: quarterback at all. Were they winners last year?
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Speaker 2: Brit brick Candler or whenever the Eli brick Handler brick
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Speaker 2: Layer though freereak kidding, I don't know. I don't know
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Speaker 2: what the hell's name is something.
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Speaker 1: That bricks that must have been post going to print,
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Speaker 1: So we can forgive them for not having Eli brick
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Speaker 1: Handler in here famously, So yeah, I would agree like
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Speaker 1: the failures of the to acknowledge more of the transfer thing,
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Speaker 1: although maybe we should appreciate that because that's seemingly all
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Speaker 1: they acknowledged are not they but the greater they acknowledged
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Speaker 1: last year was Ohio State bringing in all of these transfers.
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Speaker 1: So maybe it's nice that people just acknowledge Ohio State
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Speaker 1: for the homegrown program than it actually is.
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Speaker 2: My next one is, are you are you bullish on
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Speaker 2: Ohio State or you not bullish on Ohio State. And
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Speaker 2: they have Ohio State number three in the preseason rankings,
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Speaker 2: behind Texas, behind Penn State being like the number five
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Speaker 2: seed and losing the national semifinals, and we can get
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Speaker 2: to that or maybe not get to that in a minute.
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Speaker 2: But then they did breakdowns of twelve position groups and
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Speaker 2: that's you know, sometimes splitting in from tackle and everything else.
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Speaker 2: So five players nationally at twelve position groups sixty players.
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Speaker 2: Ohio State only had four players, only had four players.
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Speaker 2: I understand, well, Kevin, there are one hundred and thirty
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Speaker 2: three Division one A teams. Well, nobody gives a crap
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Speaker 2: about Kent State. I'm sorry, nobody gives a crap about accurate.
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Speaker 2: Sorry not sorry for a team that you have in
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Speaker 2: the top three nationally to only have three players on there.
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Speaker 2: And there are other programs within the Big ten who
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Speaker 2: are not thought nearly as well as you seem to
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Speaker 2: have more it just doesn't make sense.
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Speaker 3: And of course, you know, the four.
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Speaker 2: Names in there were Carnel Tape, Max Claar, Carson Henzman,
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Speaker 2: and canleb down. Where the hell is Sonny Styles? I don't,
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Speaker 2: you know, I don't necessarily understand. And I guess this
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Speaker 2: was kind of for some for some draft eligible times stuff.
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Speaker 2: If you mean to tell me that Sunny Styles isn't
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Speaker 2: going to you know, be a scouts like, you know,
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Speaker 2: total app you know, you know, I keep one of
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Speaker 2: these terms that you know. I don't know what Tom's
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Speaker 2: tolerance for his show is for for naughty talk, but
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Speaker 2: I mean there's gonna be scouts that are gonna be
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Speaker 2: very excited about Sunny Styles, and I just think that
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Speaker 2: it's one hand not knowing what the other hand is
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Speaker 2: doing on there. And as well, you know, shoot, we
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Speaker 2: better just get a bunch of names, you know, on
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Speaker 2: this list so we can sell some magazines or something.
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Speaker 2: But I mean it seems like a real miss to me.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was just looking for that whole thing,
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Speaker 1: because yeah, they do have it broken down at times
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Speaker 1: between draft eligible and then they have other lists of
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Speaker 1: just everybody. But yeah, the sneak peak there, it does
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Speaker 1: seem strange that you wouldn't have Sunny Styles in your
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Speaker 1: top five, knowing that linebackers aren't necessarily the most drafted position,
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Speaker 1: and he's going to be one guy that everybody's going
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Speaker 1: to know about. But yeah, I don't. I can understand
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Speaker 1: that issue that you've got there, and you know, we'll
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Speaker 1: see if Ethan Onianoll can work his way to that
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Speaker 1: one because he's not part of the tackles And.
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Speaker 2: I don't remember Jeremiah Smith is not draft eligible yet,
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Speaker 2: I don't freak out that he's not on that list.
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Speaker 2: I mean, again, I needed to be a little more
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Speaker 2: clear with my statement there. But again, you know, Tony
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Speaker 2: and I talked like yesterday, it's like we need to
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Speaker 2: go through the entire magazine basically, and I'm like, I
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Speaker 2: haven't read a book since, like since since like nineteen
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Speaker 2: Dicky five. I mean, you think I'm going to get
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Speaker 2: through a magazine that quickly. So I went through it
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Speaker 2: as quickly as possible, and I sent Tony my my
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Speaker 2: my list of grievances and he's like, God, you're just
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Speaker 2: really pissed off.
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Speaker 3: I'm like, always, you.
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Speaker 1: Give you a twitter page magazine to go through, you
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Speaker 1: better believe I'm gonna be angry about it word for word. No,
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Speaker 1: that's you took the you took the assignment too literally,
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Speaker 1: and that's that's your fault. My one. My next one
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Speaker 1: is that they don't have Ohio State among the top
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Speaker 1: ten offensive lines nationally, and I think the bulk of
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Speaker 1: what they have returning is the offensive line. You know, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you're replacing your two tackles basically from the National Championship Game,
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Speaker 1: but you're doing so with experienced players, and I think
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Speaker 1: they might have them. The three teams in the top
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Speaker 1: ten from the Big Ten, Ohio State not one of them.
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Speaker 1: I feel like the the offensive line as a whole
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Speaker 1: has kind of been slighted by this magazine, and maybe
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Speaker 1: that's the way it's going to go for as well,
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Speaker 1: because it's easy to maybe ignore the interior. Even though
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Speaker 1: Carson Hinsman, you know, was the starting center in the
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Speaker 1: playoffs last year for Ohio State and was a starting
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Speaker 1: center for Ohio State in twenty twenty three, I feel
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Speaker 1: like he should be more well known or more known,
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Speaker 1: and Garner more respect, command more respect for the entire
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Speaker 1: offensive line. So I thought, I think that's going to
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Speaker 1: prove to be a miss not having Ohio State in
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Speaker 1: the top ten offensive lines nationally.
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Speaker 2: Oh I mean, and I had that kind of pointed
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Speaker 2: out on my list too, And I'm pulling this so
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Speaker 2: I can verify this thing for everything that we can say.
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Speaker 2: They just to show that we don't want hand and
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Speaker 2: to know what that other hand is doing with them.
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Speaker 2: And again, just because you're draft eligible doesn't necessarily mean
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Speaker 2: you could have non draft eligible centers. And they're Carson
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Speaker 2: Hinsman number four overall draft eligible centers, but he's not
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Speaker 2: on any of the top three teams in the Big Ten.
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Speaker 2: For offensive center. You have Logan Jones Iowa. I'm rarely
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Speaker 2: going to doubt against doubt, you know, Iowa offensive lineman.
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Speaker 3: That's fine.
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Speaker 2: A Penny Loolu for Oregon and then Pat Coogan for Indiana.
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Speaker 3: I mean, that just feels like a lot of disrespect.
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Speaker 2: I understand that Ohio State after the twenty three season
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Speaker 2: went out and picked up Seth MacLachlan to kind of
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Speaker 2: solidify the position and see if maybe a move to
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Speaker 2: guard would help Hinsman in his development. That he was
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Speaker 2: not a center coming out of high school. That was
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Speaker 2: not his natural position. You know, I could sit there
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Speaker 2: and say that some of his snaps still don't necessarily
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Speaker 2: have a ton of velocity on them. I mean, there
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Speaker 2: certainly are some issues, but I'm hard for us to
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Speaker 2: really think that Carson Heinsman is like maybe the fourth
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Speaker 2: best center in the conference. And we're not even sure
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Speaker 2: because it only goes three D and he's he's not
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Speaker 2: into three D, so he can't be any better than four.
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Speaker 2: Christ he might be sixth. I mean, I don't know.
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Speaker 1: He's not one of the top eight centers in the
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Speaker 1: nation according to Lindy's either overall and not even draft
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Speaker 1: worthy or draft eligible, just not one of the eight.
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Speaker 1: And I think that will prove to be inaccurate as well.
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Speaker 2: My turn, Yes, if I told you that Illinois would
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Speaker 2: have a quarterback rank six spots.
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Speaker 3: Higher than Julian saying, and.
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Speaker 2: That quarterback is named Luke Altmeyer, you know when when Rutgers,
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Speaker 2: when they play Rutgers, all bests are off, but normally
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Speaker 2: a team that is known for defense under under Burt
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Speaker 2: and everything else, You're going to sit there and tell
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Speaker 2: me that Luke Altmeyer, just based on you know, having
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Speaker 2: been in college for nine years, is going to be
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Speaker 2: the better quarterback by six spots eleven to seventeen over
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Speaker 2: Julian saying, again, we have not seen Julian saying in
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Speaker 2: any critical moment.
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Speaker 3: He's made a couple of.
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Speaker 2: Plays, but normally the extent of his playbook is get
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Speaker 2: us the hell out of here.
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Speaker 3: And that's you know, that's really it.
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Speaker 2: You know, he was you know a lot of times
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Speaker 2: putting it between the two and the zero for James
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Speaker 2: Peoples as they were trying to run out the clock
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Speaker 2: and we weren't getting an opportunity to see a lot.
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Speaker 2: But I think seventeen is I would not put Julian
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Speaker 2: say in as a top seven national quarterback.
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Speaker 3: Let's be honest.
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Speaker 2: I mean that we don't know, but seventeen feel really low,
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Speaker 2: and it just feels like, well, we just need to
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Speaker 2: diversify this stuff up so we can sit there and
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Speaker 2: appease everybody. But you know who you're you know who
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Speaker 2: you're robbing the world of intelligence because Luke Altamont Altmeyer
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Speaker 2: is not.
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Speaker 3: Six spots better than Julian saying I'm sorry.
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Speaker 2: And and and and the reality is is Illinois has
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Speaker 2: had several sacks of door knobs out there. Quarterback Luke
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Speaker 2: Almeyer is pretty exciting compared to some of these other
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Speaker 2: tenders that have been there.
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Speaker 1: But come on, now, the situation is either going to
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Speaker 1: be that Julian Saying is not any good or not
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Speaker 1: good enough to start, in which case Luke Altmeyer is
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Speaker 1: a different stratosphere, or Julian sayn is good enough, in
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Speaker 1: which case his numbers are going to be better than
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Speaker 1: Luke Caltmeyer's. So I you know, and again, as you said,
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Speaker 1: Julian say is not played. So if you just want
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Speaker 1: to leave him off the list completely, but I think
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Speaker 1: the idea that he could be on the list and
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Speaker 1: also much further down than Luke Caltmeyer, I don't think
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Speaker 1: historically that would play out for what a starting Ohio
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Speaker 1: State quarterback does compared to what Luke Altmeyer has done
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Speaker 1: in his fifteen years as a college quarterback. And last year,
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Speaker 1: you know, he struggled against the best teams, which is
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Speaker 1: normal for quarterbacks. Now there's a bunch of pressure on
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Speaker 1: Illinois to be a playoff team and on Luke Altmeyer
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Speaker 1: as well, and so we will see how he does
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Speaker 1: under pressure. For the most part, he was good enough,
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Speaker 1: but now does he need to start being a little
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Speaker 1: bit better now that they are more well known, but
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Speaker 1: again just seven points at Penn State, nine points at Oregon.
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Speaker 1: He needs to do better and he's equipped to do better.
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Speaker 1: So we'll see some of the other issues I had
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Speaker 1: with the quarterbacks in the Big Ten that they have
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Speaker 1: listed the most accurate passer in the Big Ten. Did
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Speaker 1: you happen to see who they have listed for that.
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Speaker 2: I know they had something with with Tilsberry throwam away,
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Speaker 2: Bryce Underwood on or something, and I just looks like
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Speaker 2: I'm done with it.
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Speaker 3: I'm just done.
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Speaker 1: So they have Drew Drowler as the most accurate quarterback
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Speaker 1: in the.
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Speaker 2: Big Ten, like Greens and regulation, He's going to get
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Speaker 2: it between those sidelines, I mean.
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Speaker 1: And that's the thing because as you look down the stretch,
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Speaker 1: he completed fifty of his passes against Oregon, fifty nine
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Speaker 1: against seven Mississippi or seven SMU, fifty two against Boise State,
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Speaker 1: fifty two against Notre Dame, a whopping sixty percent against
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Speaker 1: Ohio State. Accurate, most accurate is not something I would
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Speaker 1: use to describe him. And I know we're clowning on him,
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Speaker 1: and that's what it sounds like. I'm not doing that.
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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to do that. If it's just if
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Speaker 1: you're gonna throw some superlatives on him, I've got to
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Speaker 1: maybe clap back a little. And you mentioned one of
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Speaker 1: the other superlatives, the strongest arm in the Big Ten
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Speaker 1: belongs to Bryce Underwood. We will find out, we will see.
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Speaker 3: I don't know that.
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Speaker 1: You know, maybe it's true.
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Speaker 3: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: We will get a chance to see an action perhaps
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Speaker 1: this year. Strongest arm is a nice tag, but I
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Speaker 1: think you'd rather have most accurate, the highest completion percentage
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Speaker 1: rather than I can throw it the farthest. That did
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Speaker 1: not suit Michigan well when that was Joe Milton.
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Speaker 3: Or Uncle Rico. It's true, I mean, and he didn't
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Speaker 3: hear me.
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Speaker 2: He could throw it over them mountains and he still
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Speaker 2: didn't mean.
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Speaker 3: It's still just driving around around.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, would put him in my last one, Kevin is
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Speaker 1: and really don't. I don't necessarily have a huge issue
19:08
Speaker 1: with that. I just would be surprised if this happens.
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Speaker 1: Of their top of their three All Big Ten teams,
19:12
Speaker 1: they've got first team, second team, and third team. The
19:15
Speaker 1: only Ohio State defensive lineman in there is Edric Houston,
19:19
Speaker 1: which credit to you for putting Edric Houston as your
19:24
Speaker 1: second team defensive tackle and we'll see. I think that's
19:27
Speaker 1: quite a projection. I would kind of be surprised if
19:31
Speaker 1: you don't see a Kidyata Jackson or Boackinson or maybe
19:35
Speaker 1: even you know, Kate Curry is one of those guys
19:38
Speaker 1: making the making, making it in the top three. And
19:41
Speaker 1: the Big Ten will do the actual Big Ten Conference
19:44
Speaker 1: will do a first team, second team, third team, and
19:46
Speaker 1: honor will mention. I'd be surprised if you didn't see
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Speaker 1: some defensive ends or a defensive end on that list
19:55
Speaker 1: by the end of the season.
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Speaker 2: They do have bear ends. Bear Alexander thirteen for Oregon.
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Speaker 2: He still has time to transfer four or five more
20:02
Speaker 2: times before postseason rankings come out.
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Speaker 3: But yeah, that was that was kind of odd.
20:11
Speaker 2: You know, I'm gonna I'll dovetail off of that and
20:12
Speaker 2: then I'll give my final one.
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Speaker 3: Again, I take a full disclosure.
20:16
Speaker 2: I have thirteen on my list, and some of them
20:18
Speaker 2: Tony is taken or has gone close enough to that
20:21
Speaker 2: I'm like, well that that satisfies that one or whatever.
20:25
Speaker 2: But oh, all right, it was here. It was you
20:28
Speaker 2: know again, they're just no real love. I mean, Lindy's
20:31
Speaker 2: does not feel believe that Ohio State defense will be
20:33
Speaker 2: any good. Apparently no knows all these random dudes quote
20:36
Speaker 2: unquote whatever said. Ohio State do get the number three
20:39
Speaker 2: in in their overall rankings. So you have a quarterback
20:43
Speaker 2: who's number seventeen in the nation, and then you have
20:46
Speaker 2: this defense that okay, I mean it fills in a
20:49
Speaker 2: little bit more once you go to conference. You get
20:52
Speaker 2: igb and Jermaine Matthews on on on on first team,
20:56
Speaker 2: we get Andrew Houston on second team. As you'd mentioned,
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Speaker 2: Lorenzo Styles Junior is third team. But they're just not
21:03
Speaker 2: the type of.
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Speaker 3: Depth there. And let's and let's be honest, the Big ten.
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Speaker 2: This isn't Big two, little you know, you know, Big two,
21:12
Speaker 2: little eight or anything like that during the ten year war. This,
21:15
Speaker 2: you know, the Big ten is probably definitely deeper than
21:19
Speaker 2: it's been in you know, in past iterations. But it
21:23
Speaker 2: just feels like there's a lot of lip service here
21:26
Speaker 2: when I'm you know, I'm sitting here and I'm just
21:29
Speaker 2: guse it's for a living. I don't know who some
21:31
Speaker 2: of these players are that they picked. I've never ever
21:35
Speaker 2: heard these names. And I follow recruiting closely and I
21:38
Speaker 2: certainly follow football closely, and I'm not going to name
21:41
Speaker 2: anybody because that's you know, we talked about clowning on somebody.
21:44
Speaker 2: You know, I don't plown on people that could probably
21:48
Speaker 2: beat me up with some o The people watching like, well,
21:50
Speaker 2: these wouldn't plown on anybody there, fat boy.
21:52
Speaker 3: But you know, the point is is that I'm not
21:54
Speaker 3: going to clown on a kid, even if he is making.
21:56
Speaker 2: More in nil than I will make in several years.
22:01
Speaker 2: My last one is, you know, I'm just kind of
22:04
Speaker 2: going I'm just going through there. I mean, and I've
22:07
Speaker 2: got a lot of things that are on there about
22:10
Speaker 2: you know, I don't think that they gave Ohio State
22:12
Speaker 2: a lot of credit for their coordinator hires. I think
22:14
Speaker 2: that the Brian hardline conator hire. I think there's still
22:18
Speaker 2: a big burden of proof that you're gonna have to
22:20
Speaker 2: have there because they did this, they didn't do it,
22:23
Speaker 2: Matt Patricia. I mean, you know, there seems to be
22:25
Speaker 2: some questions there. But honestly, you know, I think when
22:29
Speaker 2: the Ohio State hired Jim Knowles, initially it's like, yeah,
22:33
Speaker 2: well can he you know, can't he replicate it? But
22:34
Speaker 2: my last one is running backs. No James People's on
22:38
Speaker 2: the top twenty five of national running backs.
22:40
Speaker 3: C J.
22:40
Speaker 2: Donaldson's there twenty one. That means Penn State Noting each
22:44
Speaker 2: have two backs ahead of Ohio States first back. And
22:47
Speaker 2: you could sit there and say part of that is, well,
22:49
Speaker 2: we just loved Gwin, Shawn and Trevion Henderson so much
22:53
Speaker 2: that we just think they got all of this to
22:54
Speaker 2: kind of fill. But it didn't stop them from putting
22:59
Speaker 2: Justice Haynes transferred from Alabama to Michigan at number seven,
23:03
Speaker 2: and we've not seen woo from Justice Ane yet.
23:07
Speaker 3: It's not necessarily like, well.
23:09
Speaker 2: You know, we just know that the Michigan offense, you
23:11
Speaker 2: know how many G's and Juggernaut, I mean, we haven't,
23:14
Speaker 2: we haven't seen it yet. You're trying to tell me
23:16
Speaker 2: that a one two punch of Peoples and Donaldson without
23:19
Speaker 2: even talking about Bo Jackson, whoever Ohio State may have
23:22
Speaker 2: as its third back, can't can't get anybody inside the
23:26
Speaker 2: top twenty.
23:28
Speaker 3: Now, I don't buy it at all. In fact, that's
23:34
Speaker 3: what I'd say to that.
23:38
Speaker 1: I will say that I think justin Justice Haynes is
23:43
Speaker 1: a little bit high as well on the list four
23:46
Speaker 1: hund and forty eight yards rushing last year one hundred
23:48
Speaker 1: and sixty eight yards as a freshman. To have him
23:50
Speaker 1: that high again. There's a lot of projections in this magazine,
23:52
Speaker 1: and that's that's fine because that's what the magazines are
23:57
Speaker 1: supposed to do. You're projecting so much of this. I
24:00
Speaker 1: don't want to discourage that. But just these things, there
24:05
Speaker 1: are things that that we'll just stand out, so we
24:09
Speaker 1: talk about them, that's all.
24:09
Speaker 3: And and really.
24:12
Speaker 1: That's all the magazines are there for for us to
24:14
Speaker 1: talk about the stuff.
24:16
Speaker 2: To talking about stuff to like take on the on
24:18
Speaker 2: the flight to Vegas and not read on the way
24:20
Speaker 2: the big ten media days for me, for me to
24:24
Speaker 2: like sit there and still a drink on at some
24:26
Speaker 2: point and you know, and then be like, well, I'm
24:29
Speaker 2: not I'm not buying a new one. I'll just tell
24:30
Speaker 2: you that I didn't want to buy the first one.
24:33
Speaker 1: No, no, And it's good for reference and football College
24:37
Speaker 1: wall is right around the corner as you guys now shoots.
24:41
Speaker 1: As we were recording this, what we are less than
24:43
Speaker 1: three months out, there should be like.
24:45
Speaker 3: A daily countdown on the show.
24:47
Speaker 1: How Tom Well, I'm just looking at the date on
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Speaker 1: my computer and remembering that Ohio State plays on like
24:54
Speaker 1: August thirtieth, So we're almost there. We will be in
24:59
Speaker 1: Las Vegas about six weeks. I won't be leaving in
25:01
Speaker 1: about six weeks I think almost of the day as
25:04
Speaker 1: we're recording this, or seven weeks maybe anyway, six.
25:09
Speaker 2: Weeks feels really sudden, but it wouldn't surprise me either.
25:12
Speaker 2: I mean, just and how many days until we're standing
25:14
Speaker 2: out in front of the team hotel on the greatest
25:17
Speaker 2: day on the Ohio State beat hotel checking Well.
25:20
Speaker 1: We know, and this is other breaking news of sorts
25:23
Speaker 1: that broke this week. Camp kicks off on July thirty first,
25:28
Speaker 1: that's a Thursday. Maybe a few days after that, maybe
25:32
Speaker 1: less than a week after that. The camp check in
25:35
Speaker 1: the hotel checking day will be in a tradition didn't
25:39
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25:43
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