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Best of Ian Furness 9/23 · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: AJ Barner here. How are you? Doing well. Yeah? Ready
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  Speaker 1: to rock and roll?
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  Speaker 2: Of course.
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  Speaker 1: Week three. Always. Always ready to rock. Week three. Let's go.
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  Speaker 1: How would you evaluate this team so far? Especially on
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  Speaker 1: the offensive side through the first couple games.
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  Speaker 3: I think we're doing our thing. You can't ever be
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  Speaker 3: mad about winning ball games. I do think we have
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  Speaker 3: a lot of things to clean up though as well
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  Speaker 3: and we're playing good football obviously with the situations we've
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  Speaker 3: had with Sammy not being out there and Drew doing
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  Speaker 3: a great job but You know, I think last week,
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  Speaker 3: definitely cleaner than week one. But, yeah, again, to be 2-0,
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  Speaker 3: that's really all you can ask for.
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  Speaker 1: Tell us about Drew Locke. We see him on the podium.
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  Speaker 1: We talk to him in the media and hear from him.
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  Speaker 1: To me, he comes across as one of the most
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  Speaker 1: kind of humble, and this has been his two tenures here,
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  Speaker 1: humble likable kind of fun dudes i've ever seen i
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  Speaker 1: say borderline goofy but how would.
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  Speaker 3: You describe yeah yeah i was about to say like
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  Speaker 3: he'd be a great college roommate or something you know
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  Speaker 3: but uh damn good quarterback too and he's doing a
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  Speaker 3: great job um and i think you know drew's been
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  Speaker 3: doing this long enough and he's had success before that
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  Speaker 3: you know he knows what it looks like um and
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  Speaker 3: it's kind of one of those things where seahawks fans
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  Speaker 3: have seen that too like i've you know before i
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  Speaker 3: got here he had the game against the eagles or
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  Speaker 3: yeah and to win two games um It's kind of
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  Speaker 3: one of those things where if Drew's playing this week,
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  Speaker 3: if he's not playing, whatever it is, it's like there's
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  Speaker 3: really no– you know what I'm saying? If Drew's out there,
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  Speaker 3: I'm expecting to have a great game from our quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and Mike McDonald just saying that Sam's going to
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  Speaker 1: practice some this week, but we'll see what they– as
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  Speaker 1: the week goes on, what happens. That's coach speak for
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  Speaker 1: he knows more than he's going to tell us, which
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  Speaker 1: is fine. That's not my expertise.
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  Speaker 4: No, no.
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  Speaker 1: For you guys on the sideline, when– Because every team's different. God,
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  Speaker 1: this has been a brutal year for quarterbacks. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if you know this, Jackson Dart's out for the
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  Speaker 1: year now. They announced that today. All these quarterbacks getting hurt.
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  Speaker 1: Very few times do you have a guy on the
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  Speaker 1: sideline like a Drew Locke. Do you feel like you
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  Speaker 1: guys even miss a beat? Do you worry about it?
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  Speaker 1: Anything like that? What goes through your mind when you
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  Speaker 1: saw Sam go down and knowing he's going to be
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  Speaker 1: the guy, Drew's going to be the guy for at
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  Speaker 1: least two or three weeks?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, obviously it sucks to lose one of
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  Speaker 3: your teammates and you're a little bit worried about your
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  Speaker 3: teammate in a sense, but I think When it was
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  Speaker 3: Drew coming in, it's like, yeah, I know Drew's a
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  Speaker 3: very capable quarterback in this league. And, yeah, that's really
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  Speaker 3: all there is to it. I think in playing for
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  Speaker 3: the Seahawks, too, we have a great scheme, great running game,
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  Speaker 3: and complement any football that we play, especially with our defense, too.
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  Speaker 3: I think really the only thing that you might be
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  Speaker 3: a bit hesitant about is just the pre-snap things that
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  Speaker 3: your quarterback might not have gotten during the week. So
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  Speaker 3: as a player, you might have to be a bit more,
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  Speaker 3: on top of your motions or just know that some, some,
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  Speaker 3: some things pre-snap might be a little bit less smooth. Um,
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  Speaker 3: but you know, like I said, Drew's done a great job, um,
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  Speaker 3: with that.
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  Speaker 1: AJ Barner with us, Seahawk tight end, Ian Furness this afternoon,
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  Speaker 1: the Virginia Mason Athletic Center. You said something that had
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  Speaker 1: really caught my attention. I think it's interesting. Every quarterback
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  Speaker 1: sounds different. Their cadence is different, how they get to
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  Speaker 1: the line, how they get out of the huddle and
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  Speaker 1: all those things.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: How hard is that to acclimate to with a new guy?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it is a difference. And I think
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  Speaker 3: it's the different cadences associated with the motions and the
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  Speaker 3: plays that you're doing. And I think for me as
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  Speaker 3: a tight end, there's sometimes where I'm moving across the
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  Speaker 3: formation and we're snapping it on the go. There's sometimes
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  Speaker 3: where I'm moving over there and we're waiting to snap
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  Speaker 3: the ball. So I think it's really a little thing,
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  Speaker 3: a little adjustment there. And it's really a half second
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  Speaker 3: before the play where you might be a bit wider
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  Speaker 3: because you motioned a little bit further. And that's something
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  Speaker 3: where it's, A week one thing where, you know, maybe
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  Speaker 3: that guy didn't get that rep in practice, but now,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Drew played, practiced all week. It's like those
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  Speaker 3: things should be clean.
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  Speaker 1: AJ, I'm going to give some context and set this
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  Speaker 1: up because I want to talk about a drive on
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  Speaker 1: last Sunday, which I'm sure you appreciated more than most
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  Speaker 1: people would. And that's last year, actually, when we're doing
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  Speaker 1: Kraken Hockey TV, we had a pregame show and they said, hey,
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  Speaker 1: the Seahawks during the bye week of the playoffs. Seahawks
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  Speaker 1: offensive line's coming. I'm going to put him on set
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  Speaker 1: with you guys for the Kraken before game on TV.
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  Speaker 1: And I said, O-line? Okay, who's coming? They list off
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  Speaker 1: the names and A.J. Barner. I go, well, he's a
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  Speaker 1: tight end, but that'd be cool. He's a good interviewer.
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  Speaker 1: So he came on and talked to us. You're an
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  Speaker 1: offensive lineman at heart. Oh, yeah. You catch the ball,
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  Speaker 1: but you're an offensive lineman. I saw that last year.
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  Speaker 1: You're hanging out with Cross and Zabel and all those dudes. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: of course. Those are your dudes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So when I put that out there, how about a
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  Speaker 1: 16-play drive to finish a game on Sunday? What was
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  Speaker 1: that like? They showed a couple tight shots, by the way, A.J.,
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  Speaker 1: of guys from the Cardinals, and they're just like. Like,
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  Speaker 1: they were defeated. But what was going through the mindset there?
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  Speaker 3: You know, it was just kind of the brand of
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  Speaker 3: ball that we play, and it's just like finish the game.
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  Speaker 1: We love that.
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  Speaker 3: And to be out there for the time of possession
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  Speaker 3: that we had and to run 17 plays, that's just
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  Speaker 3: what you want as an offense and to keep your
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  Speaker 3: defense fresh and to really wear on a team. And honestly,
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  Speaker 3: for me, I would say I'm a defensive guy I love.
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  Speaker 3: I grew up playing linebackers, so, like, I need to
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  Speaker 3: get back to that a little bit. I feel like
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  Speaker 3: I lost that this past week. But when I'm out there,
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  Speaker 3: even though I'm on offense, I'm playing defense.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you go against maybe the best defense. Not maybe.
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  Speaker 1: You go against the best defense in the league. How
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  Speaker 1: well do they prepare you guys every week? Yeah, they
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  Speaker 1: prepare us super well.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that's more of a camp thing. And
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  Speaker 3: now that you know you're playing these games, it's more
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  Speaker 3: so like I have great confidence in our defense that
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  Speaker 3: they're just going to make plays. And it's third down,
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  Speaker 3: fourth down, and short yardage. And it's like, yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 3: getting ready to go because they're not getting it.
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  Speaker 1: What more can we see out of the passing game?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, number 11's okay.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: He's pretty good.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Jack says this thing, of course always does. And, uh,
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  Speaker 3: just super, you know, consistent, great player, but, um, just
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  Speaker 3: need to pick it up from, from all of us.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's a group effort and those things will come.
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  Speaker 3: And I think for myself included, that's definitely where I
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  Speaker 3: want to definitely take another step. And it's, um, details and, um,
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  Speaker 3: wanting the ball and being ready when it comes your way.
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  Speaker 3: And when it comes your way, you know, being very
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  Speaker 3: violent with it.
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  Speaker 1: Um, so let's, uh, before we wrap it up quickly, uh,
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  Speaker 1: you've got to go across the country this week. Back-to-back
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  Speaker 1: road games. Arizona's an easy one. Down and back, pretty simple.
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  Speaker 1: I'd rather go there probably in December when the weather's
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  Speaker 1: crappy here, but that's fine. Yeah, it was a good trip.
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  Speaker 1: But now you go back to Washington. You go back
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  Speaker 1: to the nation's capital, and you take on a team
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  Speaker 1: that's 0-2, missing their quarterback. I know you guys aren't
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  Speaker 1: thinking about that, but what are the challenges at that defense,
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  Speaker 1: what you've seen so far, that defense for the Commander's Pose?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they've got a good front seven. They've got a
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  Speaker 3: bunch of physical players up there. You know, their interior
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  Speaker 3: is strong. The linebackers took it in the first round.
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  Speaker 3: They got Frankie Luvu, a good player. And they're physical.
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  Speaker 4: They fly around.
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  Speaker 3: And they've played a lot of football. So it's a
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  Speaker 3: good challenge. And like you said, the travel is one thing.
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  Speaker 3: But regardless, you know, pick a place. We'll be ready
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  Speaker 3: to go. So we're excited. Frankie Luvu.
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  Speaker 1: Go Cougs. Is he a Cougar? He's a Cougar, yeah. Okay, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: He's a good player. That's back when we were at
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  Speaker 1: Power 4 Conference. Yeah. We'll get back up there. Back
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  Speaker 1: when we could play with the big boys. Final thing
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  Speaker 1: for you, speaking of the big boys, this division is
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  Speaker 1: a nightmare. Like, the Niners look like– they look like
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  Speaker 1: they're back. I mean, they're old, but they've been great
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  Speaker 1: so far. The Rams bounced back last week. Everyone thought
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  Speaker 1: they were going to go 17-0. I guess 16-1 is
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  Speaker 1: still on the table for them. But that's whatever, right?
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  Speaker 1: But what's the mindset for you guys when you hear
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  Speaker 1: about everybody else in the conference or the division and
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  Speaker 1: not the defending Super Bowl champs? Because I just– I
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  Speaker 1: walked by it this morning. There's a Lombardi trophy out there.
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  Speaker 1: Last I checked, you guys– or the defending champs, and
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  Speaker 1: I know that sometimes that bothers guys, sometimes it doesn't,
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  Speaker 1: but what's the mindset for you guys in that locker
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  Speaker 1: room when everyone talks about other teams besides the Seattle Seahawks?
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  Speaker 3: We lived it with the Super Bowl, and I think
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  Speaker 3: there was a point with this offseason where I was like,
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  Speaker 3: I don't need to see the trophy again. I don't
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  Speaker 3: need to touch the trophy again. I'm moved on. I'm
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  Speaker 3: ready to go attack another one. So I think with
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  Speaker 3: all that naysay or whatever, people talking about other teams,
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  Speaker 3: it's just like it is what it is.
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  Speaker 1: We're not really concerned about it.
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  Speaker 3: And when you play in our division, it's just a
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  Speaker 3: great opportunity to go out and try and win your division,
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  Speaker 3: and you put yourself in a great place by doing that.
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  Speaker 1: I know you're busy, Dave. I appreciate popping by.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Ashley, let's finish off the break. We'll let A.J. go, A.J.
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  Speaker 1: Barner with us, and we'll take a quick break, come
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  Speaker 1: back with more on 93.3 KGRFM. All right, back here
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  Speaker 1: at the Virginia Mason Athletic Center. I kind of like this,
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  Speaker 1: and we may end up just, if he's willing, do
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  Speaker 1: this every week. that Greg and I are out here
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  Speaker 1: at the Virginia Mason Athletic Center on a Wednesday. Greg
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  Speaker 1: did his show 10 to 12 today, Greg Bell's show
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  Speaker 1: 10 to 12. And then his work as a Tacoma
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  Speaker 1: News Tribune beat writer moves into the covering of the team,
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  Speaker 1: locker room, and the auditorium. And so without going through
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  Speaker 1: the list and all that, you were in there. Let's
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  Speaker 1: go through everything. First of all, we played the cut
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  Speaker 1: from McDonald talking about the two or three questions about
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  Speaker 1: the Graham Bensinger thing. Let's just put a bow on that.
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  Speaker 1: Your thoughts?
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  Speaker 4: Well, he took full accountability for it. He says he's
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  Speaker 4: responsible for whatever he says in any situation. And that
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  Speaker 4: he called Sean Payton.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: He said that the Broncos coach was really great about it.
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  Speaker 4: He respects Payton and the program they have in Denver.
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  Speaker 4: And he said right off the top that he did
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  Speaker 4: not intend for it to become public. This wasn't some
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  Speaker 4: calculated thing by McDonald trying to say, don't mess with
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  Speaker 4: the Seahawks.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: He intended that to be just a chat before the
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  Speaker 4: actual interview began. He was surprised and blindsided by the
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  Speaker 4: fact it became public and was aired. It was on
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  Speaker 4: the YouTube feed of the entire interview from Benziger. And
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  Speaker 4: he said it was a lesson learned. And he's got
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  Speaker 4: to learn to be more careful about what he says
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  Speaker 4: and who he says it to. The fact is it
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  Speaker 4: is a guy that lacks journalism ethics who took advantage
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  Speaker 4: of a situation for a few clicks and a few views.
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  Speaker 4: And McDonald knows not to bring Graham Benziger into his
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  Speaker 4: house anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. couldn't agree more and I think at
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  Speaker 1: the same time you you know I mentioned this earlier
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  Speaker 1: there's there's also this is the other part of it
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  Speaker 1: too there's a difference between doing a TV interview and
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  Speaker 1: doing a rate and a newspaper or a print interview
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  Speaker 1: absolutely you know when you're setting up for the TV
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  Speaker 1: interview and doing all those things there's just an assumption
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  Speaker 1: at least always was on my part and I bet
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  Speaker 1: if you ask Aaron or Nico the guys out there,
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  Speaker 1: they'll tell you that same thing, that you're not rolling,
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  Speaker 1: you're not, this is just, we're just BSing.
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 1: Newspapers, it's usually a little more specific. If you're sitting
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  Speaker 1: down with a guy, there's nothing to set up, on
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  Speaker 1: the record, off the record, then the verbalization comes into play.
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  Speaker 1: I love the fact McDonald took responsibility, and good for
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  Speaker 1: him for doing that. Frankly, It's not– that's on the
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  Speaker 1: other guy. That was on the other guy.
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  Speaker 4: When you sit down– as a print journalist, I've been
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  Speaker 4: doing this for 27 years. When you sit down with someone,
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  Speaker 4: you say, hey, how's your daughter doing? How's your wife doing?
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  Speaker 4: And they say something that is of note that would
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  Speaker 4: be interesting to a reader.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I always– it's imperative to say, hey, is it okay
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  Speaker 4: if that's on the record and I use that?
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Because when you're just having pleasantries and chatting, the assumption
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  Speaker 4: is it's not on the record. Right. Even though I
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  Speaker 4: didn't say this is off the record, this is on
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  Speaker 4: the record. You just say, hey, do you mind if
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  Speaker 4: I use that in the story?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I had a player last month. I asked him for
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  Speaker 4: the name of his daughter. And he told me her name.
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  Speaker 4: I said, is it okay if I put that in
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  Speaker 4: the story? He said, no, I'd rather you not. I
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  Speaker 4: don't want her name out on the internet in public.
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  Speaker 1: Great. Perfect. It's really not that hard. No. It really
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  Speaker 1: isn't that hard.
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  Speaker 4: It's a journalism ethics thing.
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  Speaker 1: It's really not that difficult.
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  Speaker 4: And that producer or whoever it was that decided to
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  Speaker 4: run it could have easily– hey, we're running the entire
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  Speaker 4: 94 minutes of the everything, off the record everything we're
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  Speaker 4: putting on the YouTube page. Are you okay if we
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  Speaker 4: have these segments and gone to McDonald or his agent
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  Speaker 4: and said that? But they didn't take.
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  Speaker 1: That step, and here we are. I believe there's nobody
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  Speaker 1: there from the Seahawks PR staff.
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  Speaker 2: Correct.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the other issue.
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  Speaker 4: My understanding is it was an end run around them
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  Speaker 4: and was directly with McDonald's people.
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  Speaker 1: There's a reason that a good PR staff would never, ever, ever,
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  Speaker 1: and these guys, there's no chance that that would have
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  Speaker 1: been aired if they would have been there.
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  Speaker 4: That's correct.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: News of the day.
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  Speaker 1: Sam Darnold.
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  Speaker 4: Sam Darnold's going to practice. They don't know how many
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  Speaker 4: snaps he's going to get. He's not going to get
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  Speaker 4: all of them. And that's a hedge in case his
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  Speaker 4: body doesn't respond tomorrow very well to practicing today for
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  Speaker 4: the first time in two weeks since the injury. Drew
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  Speaker 4: Locke will get ones, reps two. McDonald said by the
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  Speaker 4: end of Friday, meaning after the three consecutive practices, they'll
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  Speaker 4: know who will start in Washington on Sunday. So it
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  Speaker 4: really depends on how McDonald's body responds to the next
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  Speaker 4: two days of practice.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think in the case of Darnold? I mean, what's...
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  Speaker 1: Or Darnold. What's your read on what he was saying?
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  Speaker 4: My read is that they expect him to get more
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  Speaker 4: reps each day and that as long as the normal
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  Speaker 4: course of recovery and he doesn't have setbacks that he'll
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  Speaker 4: start Sunday. That's my read. Is that they won't give
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  Speaker 4: him all of it now as a hedge in case
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  Speaker 4: he doesn't feel great tomorrow so that Locke will have
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  Speaker 4: practiced those first team reps and didn't just lose a
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  Speaker 4: day on Wednesday and not doing anything.
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  Speaker 1: I think you and I discussed this yesterday in crosstalk. Like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, all things being equal, you know, would you
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  Speaker 1: play Sam Darnold with the case of who the opponent is, their,
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  Speaker 1: their own situation at quarterback and, and offensive line injuries
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  Speaker 1: and everything else. And, you know, I think my initial
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  Speaker 1: thought is always like, yeah, you just play and you
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  Speaker 1: play your best players, you know, because, but then the
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  Speaker 1: other side is, well, but can you hold them out
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  Speaker 1: one more week and get them that much better? The
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  Speaker 1: problem is this league. Yeah. You can't, there's losses you
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  Speaker 1: just cannot take. And we've seen that. I mean, look,
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  Speaker 1: ask Tampa Bay, right? Ask, ask a lot of teams
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  Speaker 1: around the league that are 0-2 or 1-1. Yeah. You
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: just can't afford– this is one that you never– in
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: the back of your mind, you're chalking a two or
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: three up. Like, we're probably not going to sweep the Niners,
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: and we're probably not going to sweep the Rams. So
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: there's a couple losses there. And then we've got a
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: tough schedule. Right. So that's the quandary I think you're in.
• 13:30
  Speaker 4: And this isn't Major League Baseball or the NBA or
• 13:32
  Speaker 4: the NHL with 162 and 80-82 games. There's 17. 17.
• 13:36
  Speaker 4: So they don't just take a pass on a one
• 13:38
  Speaker 4: or two and say, well, we'll just get through this one.
• 13:41
  Speaker 4: That's not how NFL coaches and players think. The other
• 13:44
  Speaker 4: thing interesting is, to me, the locker room dynamic of
• 13:47
  Speaker 4: if the players see that Sam Darnold's healthy enough to play,
• 13:50
  Speaker 4: they expect their guy that won them the Super Bowl
• 13:52
  Speaker 4: last year to play. And if he doesn't play for
• 13:54
  Speaker 4: the reasons we're talking about, I don't think he should play, personally.
• 13:57
  Speaker 4: I would see, well, clock's going great, defense is going great,
• 14:00
  Speaker 4: leave him another week. But if the players see that
• 14:02
  Speaker 4: he's out practicing and doing great and responding to it
• 14:04
  Speaker 4: and saying, they expect their guy to be out there
• 14:07
  Speaker 4: leading them. And if he doesn't, they're just going to
• 14:09
  Speaker 4: be able to, wait a minute, that's our guy.
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: That's our guy.
• 14:11
  Speaker 4: You don't want to disturb any kind of locker room dynamics.
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: Of the team. That ecosystem is fragile.
• 14:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they've won 19 of the last 22 games on
• 14:18
  Speaker 4: a franchise record winning streak. Don't mess that up. Do
• 14:20
  Speaker 4: some of that.
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: A.J. Barner had a great line. Actually, I'm just going
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: to produce on the air because this is on the record. Ash,
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: on record. The line that A.J. Barner had about Drew Locke,
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: Says he would have been a great college roommate. I
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: thought that summed it up. Like just a bro.
• 14:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he is.
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: Kind of a sweater around the back golfing bro.
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah. A little of the higher end of some college roommates.
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: But yeah. Yeah. I thought that was a great line
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: by him. All right. Other injuries. Jadarian Price.
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: Price is going to practice. He didn't commit to him
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: practicing today. McDonald didn't. But he'll practice at some point
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: this week still to be determined whether he plays. Zach
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: Charbonnet will not practice this week. He's eligible, too.
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's have you explain what this 21-day window is.
• 15:06
  Speaker 4: Okay, so this year, the PUP rule list, physically unable
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: to perform list guys, rules changed that they could come
• 15:12
  Speaker 4: back to practice after the second game to open a
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: 21-day window. The first day he practices while still on
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: the PUP list, technically, opens a 21-day window for them
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: to then determine whether he can be coming off the
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: list or needs to go on IR for the rest
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: of the year because he didn't respond well. Well, that
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: 21-day window... if he's eligible to practice this week and
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: he practices this week, you'd have two of those three
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: weeks before he would be eligible to play because the
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: Pup List rule remained the same that you can't have
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: Pup List guys play until after four weeks.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: So Chargers game is the point where he could actually
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: play after that.
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: Correct. But the fact that he's not practicing this week
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: strongly suggests that he's not going to play after that
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: fourth week because otherwise he not only has one week
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: of practice to ramp up, and he hasn't practiced since January.
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: So my read when McDonald says he's not practicing this
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: week is they're going to pump the brakes on Charbonnet
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: coming back, and it may not be as soon as
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: he's eligible to after the pup list ends four weeks in.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: We had a rotation at right guard. Both Bo Stevens
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: and Christian Haynes played. Kind of two series, two series,
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: two series it looked like on Sunday down in Arizona.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: That's because Anthony Bradford was out. What's his status?
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: Anthony Bradford now on injured reserve. He's going to be
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: out a minimum of four weeks. I ask, is it
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: one of those longer-term injury reserves, or is he on
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: the shorter end? McDonald says he's on the shorter end.
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: They think he's got hip injuries. On top of a knee,
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: it was bothering him, but the hip came up last week,
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: and that's why he missed the Arizona game. So it
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: sounds like maybe a month, five weeks, six weeks for Bradford.
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: Christian Haynes is the man that McDonald mentioned right away
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: would be the first man up. But I think they're
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: going to continue to give Bo Stevens some rep. And
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: we've talked about it. Christian Haynes has had three years
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: and about five opportunities to win that job, and he
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: hasn't done it. And Anthony Bradford emerged last year because
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: he lost the job or beat Haynes for the job.
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: But Bo Stevens is still a rookie. Haynes has only
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: got one more year in his rookie deal after this one,
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: but they've got four years of Bo Stevens. They want
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: to see a little bit of what he has. I
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: don't know if it's going to be two on, two
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: off like it was in Arizona.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: They want to go with one guy, right?
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: If not one guy, maybe a couple series each half
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: for Stevens and the preponderance of the snap for Haynes.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: You're just asking a lot for the other four guys.
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, except.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: Especially the two guys... In the middle on the right. Right.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Lucas and Sundown.
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: Except through my binoculars on that fourth and one, the
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: field fourth and one with seven offensive linemen on the
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: field and Oluwetemi as a fullback, Bo Stevens pinned his guy,
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: drove him down the line and pinned him over where
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: it would have been the center. He wasn't the reason
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: that play didn't work. Oluwetemi got held up and stood
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: up in the hole. So Stevens impressed at times, but
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: I think it's going to be Haynes. If I had
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: to guess, it would be like an 80-20 split percentage-wise.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, Stevens was– Decided number three.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: Well, not even close to competing.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, all training camp. He was never up in
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: that mix.
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: No, he wasn't. He never even got on the second team.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: Not one day.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: So that's not the best of news, having your right guard.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: I know people, I mean, he was everyone's favorite guy.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Anything went wrong on the offense, it was Anthony Bradford's fault.
• 18:06
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: But be careful for what you wish for. True. Because
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: John Benton loves him.
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: Yes, he does.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: And, and obviously the team likes him and he's been
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: the guy.
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: And he's in a contract year. So he's motivated to
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: get back. So he's on IR.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: That's, that's news of the day. He has injury reserve.
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: He'll be out at least four weeks, but McDonald thinks
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: it's on the short end, but he's, he's very motivated
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: to get back because his contract ends after this year.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: I've talked to him about that and he knows it's
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: a big year for him.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: What else?
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: What else did he talk about? Let's see. Um, Talked
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: about Darnold, Jarvin A. Mickey Maury. After the nine snaps
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: he had, McDonald said he's on his way back. McDonald
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: said today that Eamon Maury's workload this week and play
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: count on Sunday at Washington is going to be, quote,
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: significantly higher than it was the nine in Arizona. When
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: I talked to Eamon Maury in the locker room in
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: Arizona Sunday, He said, oh, I'm back. I'm playing every
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: snap the rest of the season. I'm full go.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: That was his preseason game?
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: It was.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: He got his one preseason game. He's done.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: He isn't doing any of his governing pump the brakes
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: on me.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: I'm done.
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: I'm going. I'm not. So in his mind, he's full go,
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: and it sounds like he's going to be close to
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: full go.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Well, if he felt good on Monday and everything like that,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: then that's a good sign as well. All right. Good stuff.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: News Tribune. Greg will have all that for you as well. And,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: of course, back with you tomorrow morning at 10 a.m.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: We'll take a break.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Thanks, Ashley.
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: I miss you.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Miss you. We'll check in next with Stuart Mandel talking
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: to some college football Washington fans. What does it mean
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: to be kind of middle of the pack with that
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: NIL spending? He'll talk about that. Plus, this will make
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: you happy as a Husky fan. How about Oregon on
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: the brink? Maybe being eliminated from the college football playoff
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: race in week four of the college football season. We'll
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: talk about that with Stuart Mandel next.
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: It's time.
• 19:50
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• 20:16
  Speaker 1: All right, here we go, 1 o'clock hour at Seahawks headquarters.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: We're switching over to college football, though. Ian Furness with
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: you at the Virginia Mason Athletic Center. Stuart Mandel from
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: The Athletic joins us, his weekly visit. Hi, Stu, how
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: are you?
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: I'm good, how are you?
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: I'm good. A lot of stuff on the field to
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: get to, and I want to get to all that
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: in a minute. I was remiss. This was an error
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: on my part last week because I wanted to get
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: to this. I had just read the story that you
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: guys worked all summer on, on the spending, basically the
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: NIL spending, for all the power for schools across the country.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Great story. You guys did. I don't know how long
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: that took. I'm assuming a long time to piece that together.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: At the end of the day, there's been a lot
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: of talk here in Seattle in the days ensuing about
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: where Washington ranked. And it was kind of mid to
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: lower tier of the Big Ten, which kind of mid
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: to lower tier of the across the country. Let me
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: take a step back. First of all, walk us through
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: the process and how difficult it was to find this information.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: It's pretty amazing because we hear all these numbers thrown
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: out there, but to actually find tangible numbers to attach to,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: it has to be difficult.
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: I mean, the goal was to get the how much
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: each roster costs for every power for school. And that's
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: hard to do because everybody's so secretive about it.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: And you find out pretty quickly, like we're probably not
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: going to get a precise number, but we can at
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: least get an estimated range. And so you're talking to, Coaches, GMs, ADs,
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: people at collectives. And some schools are very cooperative and
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: some didn't cooperate at all. So then you try to
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: piece it together from other places. But I think it's
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: pretty telling that since it went up, we've only heard
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: from two schools that claim we were wrong. And those
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: two schools, well, every school was given the opportunity to
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: confirm or deny what we had before we went to publication.
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: Doesn't really do much good to hear from them after publication.
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: So For the most part, I am confident they're very accurate.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: What are your takeaways from what you guys found?
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: I mean, obviously, there's a huge gap from top to bottom,
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: and not just nationally, but even within conferences. And so
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: I think we all expected to see a big gap between,
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: for instance, Oregon, Texas, teams that are in that $ 50
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: million range, and Purdue. Not to pick on Purdue, but
• 22:34
  Speaker 6: that kind of profile program. But like you said, I mean,
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: within the big 10, there's a big drop from, you know,
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: you have Oregon and Ohio state kind of off on
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: their own. And then you have USC, Michigan and Indiana, um,
• 22:46
  Speaker 6: who are in the high thirties, low forties. And then
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: you just have a big, big drop off to everybody else.
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: And so it's not that Washington is at or near
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: the bottom of the conference. They're just kind of jumbled together, right.
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: With a whole bunch of programs that are spending, uh,
• 23:02
  Speaker 6: in the neighborhood of 20 to 25 million on their roster.
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: which isn't bad, but it's about half of what Oregon's
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: spending on their roster.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Stu, if this was some of the
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: things you found or not. In the NFL, where I'm
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: sitting here today, we can look at a salary cap
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: and say, X player is taking up this percentage of
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: the salary cap. Jackson Smith and Jigba or Devin Witherspoon,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: soon to be Sam Darnold probably next year, things like that.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: And we kind of look through there. I'm wondering if
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: at all you came across things that tell us that
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: some of these rosters are top heavy in terms of,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: for example, Washington is reportedly paying DeMond Williams Jr. 4.5 million.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: And then the drop-off might be, if they're spending in
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: the low twenties, I would assume the drop-off is pretty
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: significant after that, uh, along the way. Is that a
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: way to look at it? Like, Hey, you know, these
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: numbers are kind of crazy 40, 50 million, but you know, uh,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Dante Moore's making eight of that, for example. I mean,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: did you find that at all?
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: You know, at least we were able to get the
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: team by team numbers, getting individual player numbers. That's impossible. Unless,
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: you know, I think we got DeMond Williams is because
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: of a lawsuit. You know, I know, I mean, I
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: know several GMs because it's kind of all changed once
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: you got revenue share, once the schools could allocate the
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: money themselves, or at least some of it and GMs who,
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: they try to follow almost exactly the way NFL teams
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: allocate a QB. So they're fine with a QB getting 25%, 30%
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: of the salary cap because that's how it is in
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: the NFL. Your problem is this is not a rational market.
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: And also you don't know, since nothing's public, if the
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: Seahawks are going to go renegotiate their starting left tackles contract,
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: they know exactly what the last five starting, you know,
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: in college, they're just going by, the agents are claiming like, well,
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: this guy got this, so you should pay our guy this,
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: but you don't know for sure.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: You have to try to vet it any way you can.
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: So I think that does result in a lot of
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: guys getting overpaid relative to their position. But it's, you know,
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: I would love, I would love to be able to
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: have somebody say, here's our whole roster top to bottom.
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: Here's what everybody made. So we can get a sense
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: of how it's allocated. We just don't have that right now.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: No, it's really hard. Well, great stuff. I would go
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: urge people to go back and check it out and
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: look at it. And I'm sure as the years go
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: on or even the year goes on, we'll, We'll discuss
• 25:26
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• 25:49
  Speaker 1: what a weekend. Let's just start with the game. You
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: wrote about it a little bit with Trinidad and Chambliss today.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: People are like, oh, why is he still playing in
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: his sixth year? Well, I mean, Division II guy and
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: didn't play and all that stuff, but... I thought you
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: said it. Well, I like watching the kid play. I
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: like watching him play. I like that. That was maybe
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: at times the emotions were too far, but last Saturday,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Ole Miss LSU, I, you know what? Not once did
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: I think about NIL or transfer portal or whatever. I
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: just watched the game and said, this is, this is mesmerizing.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: I don't know, you know, for all the angst about
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: this stuff, why anybody would watch that game and be like,
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: you know, this would be even better if the players
• 26:25
  Speaker 6: weren't paid or if they didn't transfer so much, right? Like,
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: You couldn't ask for a better, given the storyline, given
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: Lane Kiffin's return, for it to end the way it did.
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: First of all, for Trinidad Chambliss to do what he did,
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: and after Lane Kiffin tried to help get him this
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: extra year of eligibility, thinking he would follow him to LSU.
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: But yeah, the interception at the end, I think it'll
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: be an iconic photo of that Ole Miss player pointing
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: at Lane. like the fact that he had the wherewithal
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: to do that in the moment.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: So, I mean, that game lived up to, to all
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: of the hype and more. And I do think Trinidad
• 26:59
  Speaker 6: Chandler's made a strong case that he's the best quarterback
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: in the country.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: It was, it was something special all the way around.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: I want to just look ahead a little bit and,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: and back again in a second, but in a general sense,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: are you guys and Stuart Mandel with the athletic, also
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: the audible podcast and, and, whether you're talking to Ralph
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: and Bruce or others in your profession and your peers,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: guys you do the podcast with, is there any sense
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: this year at all of what the max number of
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: losses may be to get into the college football playoff?
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: And we'll go from there. But, I mean, normally it
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: feels like two is kind of the drop-dead number. Could
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: it be three this year?
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I think the thinking from the beginning
• 27:40
  Speaker 6: has been with the SEC playing the nine conference games
• 27:43
  Speaker 6: that some of their teams are going to take an
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: extra loss. And would that open the opportunity for a
• 27:48
  Speaker 6: 9-3 team to get in? And I think we'll just
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: have to wait and see. But I do feel like
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: the chances of that increased because of the way the
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: SEC played. They went 10-2 against Power Four teams so
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: far in non-conference. I believe nobody else has a winning record. So,
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: of course, their teams are going to get ranked because
• 28:07
  Speaker 6: of that. I think they have 10 this week. And
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: then they're going to knock each other off and they're
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: going to accumulate top 25 wins. And you're going to
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: get to the end of the season, and maybe let's
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: just use LSU as an example. Maybe they have three losses,
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: but they also have three top 25 wins. You're definitely
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: going to hear Greg Sankey and those folks going to
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: bat for those teams. But every year is different. Last
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: year we had several 10-2. We had, obviously, Notre Dame
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: most prominently, but also Vanderbilt, a 10-2 SEC team that
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: got left out. Even some years, I don't think you're
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: guaranteed to get in with two.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: So that brings us to the question about elimination games.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Let's start out here in the Big Ten, sort of,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: although it doesn't feel like a Big Ten game. Oregon
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: and USC feels like a classic day of the Pac-12.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: But Oregon-USC, Oregon took that loss we all know at
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma State. They go down to USC this week. They
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: almost lost to Boise State. The body of work, I'm sure,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: comes into play at some point, too, when a committee's
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: looking at it. They're saying, hey, here's what they did
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: throughout the year. Here's their wins. Here's their losses. We'll
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: throw the Portland State game out of the mix a
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: little bit. But if we look at this game this weekend,
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: for Oregon, is it at least the potential for an
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: elimination game?
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's hard to say it's an elimination game when
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: we just talked about you can get in at 10-2.
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: Now they do have to go to Ohio State. They'll
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: have no margin for error at that point. So much
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: of what Oregon's resume will look like in November or
• 29:36
  Speaker 6: December is what happens to Oklahoma State. If Oklahoma State,
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: right now we consider that such a bad loss, but
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: if Oklahoma State turns out to be like a 9-3 team,
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: then two months later they'll say, well, that wasn't that
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: bad a loss. They lost on the road to a
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: 9-3 team. If Oklahoma State goes 4-8, that's a really
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: bad loss that's hard to overcome. So I just think
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: that one game and that one result will shape their
• 29:58
  Speaker 6: resume so much.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm wondering, too. It feels like Oregon's
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: going to play a little bit desperate. USC, do we
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: really know what they are yet? This is kind of
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: a barometer game for them, right?
• 30:09
  Speaker 6: I mean, I think we know that they have a
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: really good quarterback and really good receivers, again, and kind
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: of the kind of offense you'd expect from Lincoln Riley.
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: But any notion that, oh, they have a much better
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: defense kind of went out the window at Rutgers last week. Now,
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: was it one of those weird, flew-across-the-country guys looking ahead
• 30:28
  Speaker 6: to Oregon, like one of those kind of things? Or
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: are we seeing yet another example of like, no matter
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: what Lincoln Riley does, you can hire Gary Patterson, you
• 30:35
  Speaker 6: can bring in five-star freshmen, and they're still not going
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: to be very good on defense. We'll find out because
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: I think Oregon is going to come out for blood.
• 30:44
  Speaker 6: And we know Dante Moore and we know all the
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: weapons they have. So the chance to be, but at
• 30:49
  Speaker 6: the same token, right, Oregon's defense is a huge question
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: mark right now after what we saw the first two weeks.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: I kind of wonder about Oregon's both of their lines,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: the defensive line and the offensive line. It feels like
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: that I thought would be a lot more dominant for
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: the Ducks. And going into the season, I mean, they've
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: got probably, God, I don't know, around probably 10 NFL
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: players that should be drafted off that roster is what
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: our draft guy is telling us. And a bunch of
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: those guys are up front on both sides of the ball.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: New starting tackles comes into play, but I'm going to
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: be watching the line of scrimmage this week. Because USC
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: was great when Pete was going and had that thing humming.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: That's where they were really dominant.
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: The Oregon defensive line should be– there's no reason why
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: they should be anything. It's all seniors, a couple of
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: those guys who could have easily turned pro last year.
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: But I think we got accustomed to Oregon being really
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: good on the offensive line, especially when Bo Nix was there,
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: he would rarely get sacked. Now, as we get further
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: from the Mario Cristobal era, though, that's Mario Cristobal's whole thing, right?
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: He knows offensive line. He recruits great offensive linemen. And
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: as you start to get further away from that, it's like, oh,
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: they got exposed a little bit last year. They're not
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: off to a good start this year. The two starting
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: tackles you mentioned had just like brutal PFF grades off
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: that Oklahoma State game. So that could be a problem.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no doubt. We've got another interesting one this weekend.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: What do we know about Tennessee? They take on Texas
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: this weekend at home in Neyland Stadium, and more or
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: less at home, and against Texas, the number one team
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: in the country off that huge win against Ohio State.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: What do we know about Tennessee? How much of a
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: fight can they give Texas, do you think?
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think we know much of anything about Tennessee.
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: They have a really good running back in Deshaun Bishop,
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: but this is going to be a true freshman starter
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: for them now, which you rarely see anymore, these two
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: freshman starters. Dazon Brandon going against an extremely talented Texas defense.
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: But I think week to week this year now, I mean,
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: not that Arch wasn't already the story, but I think
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: the story's changing a little bit. At least for me,
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: if you're realistic and you say, okay, after 18 games,
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: I think we know who Arch Manning is. And he's
• 32:59
  Speaker 6: going to be good some weeks and he's going to
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: be bad some weeks. And which one are you going to,
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: even within the same game, and which one are you
• 33:06
  Speaker 6: going to get? Because they're going on the road. It's
• 33:09
  Speaker 6: going to be a great atmosphere there in Knoxville. Are
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: we going to see him basically first three quarters of
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: Ohio State or last quarter of Ohio State? He stunk
• 33:18
  Speaker 6: last week against UTSA. That's going to determine so much
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: because otherwise Texas is loaded.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Stuart Mandel with the Athletic Audible Podcast. I think you
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: wrote about this, I believe. I know it's been talked
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: about a lot. If you're just ranking the quarterbacks in
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: the SEC... Arch Manning, if you ask the average fan,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: people are going to say, well, he's probably going to
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: be the number one overall pick in the NFL draft.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: But if you're ranking quarterbacks in the SEC, he's far
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: from number one, isn't he?
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I have no idea what his NFL stock is
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: at this point. I'll leave that to those experts. I mean,
• 33:51
  Speaker 6: the two most impressive quarterbacks in the country this season
• 33:53
  Speaker 6: so far, and I know it's a young season, are
• 33:55
  Speaker 6: Trinidad Chambliss and Camario Taylor at Mississippi State. Two guys
• 33:59
  Speaker 6: in the same state. I think Gunnar Stockton from Georgia,
• 34:04
  Speaker 6: who is... is a proven guy and is leading the
• 34:07
  Speaker 6: country in passer rating right now. So you're going to,
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: there's three, you're going to put ahead arch. And then
• 34:11
  Speaker 6: if you've watched Alabama at all, so far, they've been
• 34:13
  Speaker 6: on big TV games every week. You know, they've got
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: a good young quarterback in Keelan Russell, who Keelan Russell,
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: who I'm not quite ready to anoint yet, but you know,
• 34:24
  Speaker 6: he definitely has a lot of upside. So you're talking
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: about is arch the fifth best quarterback in the sec.
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: Is that even maybe a little generous? I don't know.
• 34:33
  Speaker 6: At one point, Bruce and Ralph will see the light
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: of day here. I feel like I'm on an island
• 34:37
  Speaker 6: here just saying, like, he's not bad. Arch isn't bad.
• 34:39
  Speaker 6: He's just not what you guys thought he was going
• 34:41
  Speaker 6: to be.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Stu, what's happened to John Mateer?
• 34:46
  Speaker 6: That's a great question. Can you tell me?
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: Well, I can. I think it's an Arbuckle problem. Honestly,
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: if I'm being serious and not just taking shots at
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: the guy that left us, because I understand why he
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: left us. The money was obscene, and he should leave.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: That's what the NIL– in a sense can be, uh,
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: I'm not an Arbuckle fan. I wasn't, I think we
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: were doing this a couple of years ago. I, you know,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: the second half of that season at Wazoo, if you
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: look at the numbers, it was, it was bad. Like
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: it was really bad. And I get some teams that
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: it shouldn't be bad against like Wyoming and Utah state
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: that at the time, I don't know if it's a
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: material problem as much as maybe Arbuckle isn't the wonder
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: kid that people thought.
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: Because you saw material in that year, Washington state. He
• 35:29
  Speaker 6: was great.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Great.
• 35:30
  Speaker 6: Um, I think sometimes for a coach, the problem for
• 35:35
  Speaker 6: a coach like Brett Venables, like Brett Venables is one
• 35:36
  Speaker 6: of the great defensive coaches of the last 20, 30 years.
• 35:41
  Speaker 6: He did it on Bob Stoops' staff. He did it
• 35:43
  Speaker 6: at Clemson. And now again, he has Oklahoma with a
• 35:47
  Speaker 6: great defense, but sometimes those guys just don't know what
• 35:49
  Speaker 6: they want to do on offense. They kind of, okay,
• 35:53
  Speaker 6: we'll try this. So that didn't work out. We'll go
• 35:54
  Speaker 6: hire this hot guy. Right. And Arbuckle had that reputation
• 35:57
  Speaker 6: at the time. And so sometimes I just wonder about fit,
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: you know, right now, There's another quarterback, Michael Hawkins Jr.,
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: who was who basically they recruited material over him. And
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: he's at West Virginia now with Rich Rod. And he
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: was out there taking it to Virginia last week and
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: he didn't do anything at Oklahoma. So you do start
• 36:16
  Speaker 6: to wonder sometimes, like, well, maybe it's not just like
• 36:19
  Speaker 6: our run of bad quarterbacks. Maybe it's the coaches.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's the thing is like, you know, it.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: I think back at Wazoo, you know, over the years
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: and the great quarterbacks that did come through there, you know,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: like even like, I'll just even go way back to
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: like a Drew Bledsoe, Tim Rosenbach, guys like that. You know, when,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: when Dennis Erickson was coaching their offensive minded guy, Mike
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Price was, was phenomenal with quarterbacks. He made guys that
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: weren't good, look good along the way. I think, you know,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Mike Leach always had guy, you know, Mike Leach was
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: there with Gardner and others. I, I don't know. I,
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: we watched Mateer like in spring games. And then obviously
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: the one season he started, And there was such a
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: wow factor there. The physical tools are undeniable. And yet
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: here's Oklahoma, unranked, going to No. 2 Georgia, and all
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: eyes are going to be on Mateer and that offense
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: for Brett Venables. I mean, that's a massive game this
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: weekend for Oklahoma.
• 37:09
  Speaker 6: He really– struggling against Michigan is one thing. He struggled
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: against New Mexico last week.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 37:16
  Speaker 6: And he had a quote that a lot of people
• 37:18
  Speaker 6: kind of took and ran with, that basically he had
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: this one long touchdown pass to their best receiver, Cetania,
• 37:25
  Speaker 6: And he basically said, like, oh, I wasn't going to–
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: I was going to jump over him on my reads,
• 37:30
  Speaker 6: but then I heard the crowd going crazy, so I
• 37:32
  Speaker 6: figured he must be open. And people are like, really?
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: You're basing your decisions based off the crowd? I feel
• 37:38
  Speaker 6: bad for the guy. I'm sure his confidence is shot.
• 37:40
  Speaker 6: He had that injury early last year that seemed to
• 37:42
  Speaker 6: affect him the whole rest of the year. And the
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: thought was, okay, he'll come back this year and be
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: healthy and be better, and it just hasn't been the
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: case so far.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: No, it has not. Thoughts on Western Michigan-Boise State?
• 37:56
  Speaker 6: Um, it's really, it's a really interesting game. Um, I
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: do wonder if we're going to lay everybody's a little
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: caught up to up a little too caught up in
• 38:05
  Speaker 6: what happened in the Michigan game. I, you know, Boise
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: should win that game. Like Boise is a different level
• 38:12
  Speaker 6: of G six team from Western Michigan. However, they had
• 38:17
  Speaker 6: their hands full, uh, with South Dakota last week. Um,
• 38:21
  Speaker 6: like they, they're not, they're not untouchable Boise. So, It's
• 38:25
  Speaker 6: going to be interesting to see.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Elimination game, maybe. We talked about that a few weeks
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: ago with Memphis.
• 38:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think for sure. Because, first of all, Boise
• 38:36
  Speaker 6: would have two losses. And I think Western Michigan, this
• 38:40
  Speaker 6: is like their one. Because the MAAC is not a
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: good conference, let's be honest. You're not going to be
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: piling up signature wins in there. So here's your chance
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: to show where you are with the other G6 teams.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: If you at all believe in the football gods, then
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: this is one you believe in because this game being
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: scheduled before, you never would have thought anything of it.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: And now all of a sudden, it's like, wow, this
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: is like a G6 huge massive game along the way.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: All right, Stu, tell us about the Audible podcast and
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: what you got going on.
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: The Audible is three times a week, Tuesdays, Thursdays, and
• 39:13
  Speaker 6: live Saturday mornings. I'm sorry, Sunday mornings.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Sunday mornings.
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: Wrapping up the weekend at 8.30 a.m. Pacific. You guys
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: do a terrific job. You can get there at Audible
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: Show on YouTube.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: And you can watch it on YouTube. You can listen
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: to it on where you get your podcasts. Also check
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: out what Stu's got going on, along with Bruce and
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Ralph and the rest of the crew at The Athletic Goals.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: NCAAF for football tab. It's the best coverage you'll find
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: out there, along with a great podcast that those guys
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: do as well. We'll talk to you next week, Stuart.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: Thank you. All right.
• 39:39
  Speaker 6: Thank you.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: That is Stuart Mandel from The Athletic joining us. More
• 39:42
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• 39:45
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• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Corbin Smith. You feeling better?
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I, I'm feeling much better. Thank goodness.
• 40:52
  Speaker 7: I guess that's the one thing with Crohn's disease is it's,
• 40:55
  Speaker 7: you know, you have a flare and then a couple
• 40:57
  Speaker 7: hours later feel better.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: So, uh, I'm good now.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: Good, good. Uh, Corbin Norman would be down here with
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: us in person at the Virginia Mason athletic center, but, uh,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: It's a real-life thing. I think that's an autoimmune as well,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: and I'm well familiar with that with my two kids
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: with their autoimmune issues, and it's no fun. No fun
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: at all.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just couldn't.
• 41:16
  Speaker 7: I knew when I was not able to comfortably sit
• 41:20
  Speaker 7: that trying to drive to the VMAC was probably not
• 41:23
  Speaker 7: going to be in the cards tonight.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: No, no, no. Well, I know you monitored everything and
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: checked out what Mike McDonald had to say, so let's
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: go through things. Let me start first with the Anthony
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Bradford news. You know, I mentioned this earlier. I do
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: believe that there's a lot of– Anthony Bradford kind of
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: gets beat up a little bit by fans, media, and others.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: He's kind of like the one person on the offense
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: that people want to kind of go after a little
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: bit here and there the last couple of years. John
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Benton likes him. There's no doubt about that. They like
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: his physicality. He hasn't given up that starting spot. He
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: wouldn't give up that starting spot. It was never even
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: in question in training camp this year. as you well know, Corbin,
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: but now he goes on the IR, so they've got
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: a hole to fill at right guard, whether it be
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: Bo Stevens or Christian Haynes.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: They do, and it's fascinating.
• 42:09
  Speaker 7: I wrote an article about this yesterday at Emerald City Spectrum.
• 42:14
  Speaker 7: It's kind of like when you have two quarterbacks, you
• 42:16
  Speaker 7: don't have one. You don't normally want to platoon offensive linemen,
• 42:21
  Speaker 7: particularly in regular season games. That normally does not work,
• 42:25
  Speaker 7: but On Sunday, I thought that the arrangement that Seattle
• 42:30
  Speaker 7: deployed with Christian Haynes and Bo Stevens worked masterfully.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: I thought both guys played well.
• 42:36
  Speaker 7: It seemed like they both were able to get into
• 42:39
  Speaker 7: a rhythm, particularly in the second half.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: There weren't a lot of mistakes.
• 42:43
  Speaker 7: By either player. And so they're going to be doing
• 42:47
  Speaker 7: a competition this week to see who starts, but I'd
• 42:51
  Speaker 7: be really surprised if they don't just do that again
• 42:53
  Speaker 7: and John Benton just kind of mixes and matches.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: Those two guys are the right guard spot.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: Corbin, when I was talking about this with Greg Bell earlier,
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: it's an interesting dynamic here because Bo Stevens, the day
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: three draft pick, the fifth round pick out of Iowa,
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: had a terrific career there. But he was a day
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: three pick for a reason. And he never, during training camp,
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: we never saw him get kind of higher than the threes.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: He wasn't threatening to start. He wasn't even threatening. It
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: didn't appear, at least, he was even threatening touchdowns. that
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: number two spot behind, you know, behind Bradford and, or,
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: you know, even on the other side was able, it
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: was kind of always, you know, Christian Haynes was there.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: So I want your thoughts on Bo Stevens. And then
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: at the same time, this is what Greg and I discussed.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: The interesting part about Christian Haynes, he's in the last
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: year of his contract. So I'm sure if they had their,
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: their way and their wishes, they would like to see
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: Bo Stevens take that next step.
• 43:48
  Speaker 7: So Haynes actually, Ian has two years left in his contract. Brad,
• 43:53
  Speaker 7: Bradford's the one that's got the expiring deal. So you've
• 43:58
  Speaker 7: kind of got that dynamic that both these guys could
• 44:01
  Speaker 7: be playing for the starting job next year, assuming that
• 44:05
  Speaker 7: Anthony Bradford is not back.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: And I would not make that assumption necessarily.
• 44:10
  Speaker 7: But if they have Bradford out for four-plus games here
• 44:15
  Speaker 7: and they get quality play at the right guard spot
• 44:18
  Speaker 7: and don't miss a beat, Seattle might be looking at
• 44:21
  Speaker 7: that as their sign.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: Hey, we don't need to pay.
• 44:23
  Speaker 7: We don't need to pay Anthony Bradford big bucks to
• 44:26
  Speaker 7: bring him back on a second contract.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: We've got two guys here. Maybe it ends up being one.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: Who knows?
• 44:31
  Speaker 7: I mean, I was really encouraged by what we saw
• 44:34
  Speaker 7: from Christian Haynes in the preseason. And I believe you
• 44:37
  Speaker 7: and I talked about this coming out of the Titans game,
• 44:40
  Speaker 7: how well he played against Jeffrey Simmons in that preseason contest.
• 44:45
  Speaker 7: And it just seems like his confidence is skyrocketing.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: And he was a really talented player coming out of UConn.
• 44:51
  Speaker 7: For whatever reason, it just wasn't working the first two years.
• 44:55
  Speaker 7: But it seems like he's playing to the level that
• 44:58
  Speaker 7: the Seahawks had originally anticipated.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: So you've got him, and then you've got Bo.
• 45:02
  Speaker 7: Stevens, who I thought acquitted himself extremely well in Sunday's game.
• 45:08
  Speaker 7: I posted a few clips on social media from the
• 45:10
  Speaker 7: All-22 where he was just turning guys into part of
• 45:14
  Speaker 7: the turf, including former Seahawks draft pick L.J.
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: Collier.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: At the goal line.
• 45:18
  Speaker 7: Unfortunately, the rest of the line didn't block worth a
• 45:21
  Speaker 7: crap on that play, but he had a really.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: Nice pancake there.
• 45:26
  Speaker 7: So I just thought there was a lot to be
• 45:28
  Speaker 7: encouraged by with both guys, not to the point where
• 45:31
  Speaker 7: one of them was pulling away, which is why I.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: Expect to see that platoon again this week.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: Are you, when you post those clips on social media,
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: do you think that Dan Quinn was looking for those
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: to study? Like, you know, You know what?
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: Here's the thing, Ian.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: They have access to that. They don't need me to
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: do that.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: I know they do. I know they do.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: So this is not a Graham Bensinger type situation.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: No, no. This is Corbin Smith, though, from Emerald City Spectrum.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the other stuff. So Sam
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: Darnold expected to practice at some point and in some
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: capacity today. I would be– I'm just guessing here. We
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: don't know, but I would guess we're probably going to see–
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: you know, limited for him on the practice report later
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: as opposed to full. So we'll see. What are your thoughts, Corbin,
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: on what they, you know, if all things being equal,
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: if he's 100%, do you throw him in there? If
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: he's 80%, do you say, let's wait a week? Do
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: you base anything on the fact that the commanders aren't
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: very good? Oh, by the way, they're missing their starting
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: quarterback and two starting offensive linemen are down as well
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: for a team that's already 0-2. Or do you approach
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: it like, hey, this is the NFL, man. You can
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: only afford one or two losses along the way. This
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: is not one you would chalk up as being a loss.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: You've got to save those for later on in the
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: season when you're playing better opponents.
• 46:59
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think, you know, listening to what Mike McDonald
• 47:02
  Speaker 8: had to say today, he kind of shot down the
• 47:04
  Speaker 8: idea that they would be looking at this like, hey,
• 47:08
  Speaker 8: we've got a chance here if he's at 85% or whatever.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: We've got a chance to rest him for one more week.
• 47:14
  Speaker 7: He kind of shot it down, which made me think
• 47:16
  Speaker 7: that what he's been told is that this is not
• 47:19
  Speaker 7: something that they're worried about him playing, that he would, like,
• 47:22
  Speaker 7: re-injure it or aggravate it, which is strange with a
• 47:25
  Speaker 7: soft tissue injury. But that seemed to be what he
• 47:28
  Speaker 7: was hinting at there. That tells me that if he
• 47:31
  Speaker 7: is close to being ready to go, that the Seahawks
• 47:34
  Speaker 7: are ready to get him back in the lineup. I
• 47:36
  Speaker 7: don't know that I necessarily agree with that. just because
• 47:39
  Speaker 7: of how well Drew Locke is playing. Now, if Sam
• 47:42
  Speaker 7: Donald goes out there and he looks great and he
• 47:44
  Speaker 7: gets through the week with no setbacks, he's 100% healthy, yeah,
• 47:48
  Speaker 7: I'm starting my starting quarterback. But I do think you
• 47:52
  Speaker 7: have to at least consider the caution here. If, well,
• 47:56
  Speaker 7: we think he's right, but we're not 100% sure, if
• 47:59
  Speaker 7: you feel that way, if it was me making the decision,
• 48:02
  Speaker 7: and this is why I'm not making the millions that
• 48:04
  Speaker 7: Mike McDonald and those guys are making, But if it
• 48:06
  Speaker 7: was my decision, I'd be playing Drew Locke because he's
• 48:10
  Speaker 7: playing so well right now that I don't.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: Want to risk it with my QB.
• 48:15
  Speaker 7: I want to make sure he's back in week four
• 48:18
  Speaker 7: and we have him back long term, hopefully.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no way they'd ever say publicly, well, it's
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: the Commanders and they're down. We decide to wait another week.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: But that behind the scenes, behind closed doors, off the record,
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: has to be a conversation, I would think. That has
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: to be a conversation that's taking place. And the conversation,
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: and let's just go down this road for a second, Corbin.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: You can have that conversation because, oh, by the way,
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: your backup has played great so far.
• 48:48
  Speaker 7: Yeah, he's been a top-five quarterback in the NFL these
• 48:51
  Speaker 7: first two weeks. I posted a bunch of the stats,
• 48:55
  Speaker 7: and stats don't always paint the most accurate picture, but
• 48:59
  Speaker 7: you watch that game Sunday, aside from a couple throws
• 49:02
  Speaker 7: in the first half that were a little bit underthrown,
• 49:05
  Speaker 7: Here's the thing. They were put in positions where the
• 49:07
  Speaker 7: only guy that had any chance was the offensive player
• 49:09
  Speaker 7: to catch it.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: I'm fine with inaccurate passes like that. I don't want
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: the ones that, oh, it got popped up in the
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: air and, oh, there's an interception. He's doing such a
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: great job protecting.
• 49:20
  Speaker 7: The football and balancing making smart decisions with trusting his
• 49:27
  Speaker 7: arm because he does have the lead arm tally. That
• 49:29
  Speaker 7: throw he made to Elijah Arroyo in the third quarter
• 49:32
  Speaker 7: is still the one that jumped out to me the
• 49:34
  Speaker 7: most where he just let that ball rip. 105-mile-an-hour fastball.
• 49:41
  Speaker 7: in between three converging defenders to the point that the
• 49:44
  Speaker 7: ball almost looked like it knocked Arroyo over after he
• 49:46
  Speaker 7: caught it.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: I thought he played a near-perfect game on Sunday.
• 49:51
  Speaker 7: So you're in a situation where you can play with
• 49:54
  Speaker 7: house money here, and if Sam Darnold is, well, we
• 49:58
  Speaker 7: have any reservation about this, then don't play him. You
• 50:02
  Speaker 7: don't have to worry about Jameis Winston playing for you.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: You have Drew Locke.
• 50:07
  Speaker 7: So I think Seattle's got a luxury there. So take
• 50:11
  Speaker 7: advantage of it if you need to.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: Is Corbin Smith joining us here, Emerald City Spectrum? Let's
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: get to the running back. We expect Jadarian Price to
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: practice today as well, according to what Mike McDonald said.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: So that's good news. That was a hell of an effort, though,
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: by Emmanuel Wilson down the stretch. No George Helani. They
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: were evaluating him for a concussion. I think he's expected
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: to practice today as well. But no George Helani. No
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Jadarian Price or down to one running back because Valus
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: Jones wasn't elevated and he wasn't active. So it was
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: just the Wilson show, and boy, he did not disappoint.
• 50:45
  Speaker 7: It was so much fun, Ian, watching in the fourth quarter.
• 50:49
  Speaker 7: This is the former running back in me coming out here.
• 50:53
  Speaker 7: There is nothing that is more satisfying than when you
• 50:57
  Speaker 7: are the running back and you're getting great blocking in
• 51:00
  Speaker 7: front and defenders have no interest in tackling you. You've
• 51:04
  Speaker 7: sucked the soul out of them. They are panning like dogs.
• 51:08
  Speaker 7: That is what was happening that entire fourth quarter. And
• 51:11
  Speaker 7: you got a 230 pound back. Like there were a
• 51:14
  Speaker 7: bunch of plays and the all 22 were just like,
• 51:17
  Speaker 7: you could see a number of Cardinals players and they
• 51:20
  Speaker 7: played the run well early in the game, but you
• 51:23
  Speaker 7: could just tell at that point, like, you know what?
• 51:25
  Speaker 7: I'm not so sure that I want to try to
• 51:27
  Speaker 7: stick my arms out here and make a tackle on
• 51:29
  Speaker 7: this guy. I just, I'm just not sure if I
• 51:31
  Speaker 7: want to, I'm going to make a business decision. And
• 51:34
  Speaker 7: so he was racking up a bunch of missed tackles.
• 51:36
  Speaker 7: He was making guys miss in space. And he's just,
• 51:40
  Speaker 7: we talked about this early in camp on the sideline.
• 51:44
  Speaker 7: He's got a pretty good burst for a big back.
• 51:46
  Speaker 7: Like he accelerates up to top speed pretty well. And
• 51:51
  Speaker 7: now we're seeing that with the contact aspect added to it.
• 51:55
  Speaker 7: I thought he had a heck of a performance there
• 51:58
  Speaker 7: playing the role of the closer for the Seahawks.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: Out of the backfield.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: Corbin, I want to get some bigger pitcher NFL thoughts
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: in a second, but let me just quickly talk about
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: this week's opponent, the Washington Commanders. We all know Dan
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: Quinn well from his time here in Seattle. Great first year,
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: took a massive step backwards last year. A lot of
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: it was due to the quarterback being hurt, Jayden Daniels.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: He's hurt again, so it's Marcus Mariota who will get
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: the start this week. They added Stephon Diggs in the offseason.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin's still there. Chikori Kroski-Merritt. Rashad White are the
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: top two running backs, but just offensively, do you expect
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: them to pose any problems to the Seahawks defense?
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 52:38
  Speaker 7: I mean, I think the only thing that maybe would
• 52:41
  Speaker 7: be a difference from what they saw this past week
• 52:44
  Speaker 7: is that Marcus Mariota's running ability is still, even at
• 52:47
  Speaker 7: him now being past 30, he's still athletic enough to
• 52:50
  Speaker 7: cause damage with his legs, but he's more willing to
• 52:54
  Speaker 7: throw the ball into traffic. Jacoby Brissett has a really
• 52:56
  Speaker 7: low interception rate for his career. That's not been something
• 53:00
  Speaker 7: that he has struggled with. Marcus Mariota will cough up
• 53:03
  Speaker 7: the football if you put him in positions where he
• 53:07
  Speaker 7: is trying to make something happen as a passer. He
• 53:10
  Speaker 7: will throw it into double and triple coverage, and Seattle
• 53:13
  Speaker 7: right now is averaging... Right now they have a 6.6%
• 53:15
  Speaker 7: interception rate, which is easily number one in the NFL.
• 53:20
  Speaker 7: And they're going to be playing a guy that if
• 53:23
  Speaker 7: you're opportunistic, you can get a lot of chances to
• 53:25
  Speaker 7: make a play in the football.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: The run game doesn't scare me that much.
• 53:28
  Speaker 7: You don't want to, you never want to take an
• 53:30
  Speaker 7: opponent lightly, but not having Jaden Daniels out there.
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: And I've talked about this in our Seahawks triple option yesterday.
• 53:36
  Speaker 7: Like they got rid of a lot of older players
• 53:39
  Speaker 7: and they still have one of the oldest rosters. Like,
• 53:42
  Speaker 7: Last year, they were, in NFL terms, they were geriatric.
• 53:45
  Speaker 7: That's why they fell back the way they did, on
• 53:48
  Speaker 7: part with the injury to Daniels.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: But, like, this is still one of the NFL nursing homes. Like,
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: they just.
• 53:54
  Speaker 7: Can't get young enough to offset that. They've looked slow
• 53:58
  Speaker 7: in the first couple games as a team. There's not
• 54:02
  Speaker 7: a lot for them to lay their hat on when
• 54:04
  Speaker 7: they don't have Jaden Daniels there to save the day
• 54:06
  Speaker 7: on offense.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're starting right guard, they're starting left tackle, are
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: both not expected to play in this game as well
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: as Jayden Daniels. I had A.J. Barner in here at
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: the Virginia Mason Athletic Center a couple hours ago, and
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: the one defensive player, he said, they're pretty good up front.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: Kinlaw and Payne, I think is who he's referring to,
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: but he did mention Frankie Luvu, go Cougs, but I
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: think Frankie might be out this week as well, so
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: Sonny Stiles, their first-round pick, middle linebacker out of Ohio State. But, boy,
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: you look through their roster, and it's like either old
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: or the question is who.
• 54:44
  Speaker 7: Yeah, they've just– they doubled down on veterans last year.
• 54:49
  Speaker 7: And coming off the NCAA championship, they ended up biting
• 54:52
  Speaker 7: them big time. And they made some moves to get
• 54:56
  Speaker 7: younger this year. But, I mean, they've made a number
• 54:59
  Speaker 7: of trades. I mean, they traded for Laramie Tunsell this year,
• 55:01
  Speaker 7: and now he's injured. And so they haven't had the
• 55:04
  Speaker 7: draft capital to be able to really turn the roster
• 55:07
  Speaker 7: around the way that they want to either. So there's,
• 55:10
  Speaker 7: there's a lot of things that play there. And, and
• 55:13
  Speaker 7: I have a lot of respect for Dan Quinn, but
• 55:16
  Speaker 7: he kind of seems like he's one of those coaches
• 55:18
  Speaker 7: for whatever reason, after a couple of years, things can
• 55:21
  Speaker 7: get pretty sour.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: And I don't think it has nothing to do with
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: the man.
• 55:24
  Speaker 7: He's a great guy, but it just seems like, you know,
• 55:27
  Speaker 7: what happened in Atlanta is, Sometimes you used to have
• 55:30
  Speaker 7: coaches that have shorter expiration dates for whatever reason with
• 55:34
  Speaker 7: how they preach things or their style or whatever it is.
• 55:37
  Speaker 7: But it seems like that, you know, unfortunately it might
• 55:39
  Speaker 7: be trending that direction there for him again in the
• 55:43
  Speaker 7: nation's capital.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: Before I let you go, just some thoughts around specifically
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: the NFC Rams bounce back, look good. Niners have looked
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: fantastic in their first two games this season. Buccaneers massive. Well,
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: for them, a disappointment. Everybody else is okay with it
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: along the way. Give me a little read two weeks
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: in on both the NFC West and the NFC as
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: a whole.
• 56:05
  Speaker 7: Well, the NFC West, you know, Mike McDonald referenced Dennis Green.
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: I'm going to reference Dennis Green. The NFC West is
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: what we thought it was.
• 56:14
  Speaker 7: It's, you know, three teams at the top, and the
• 56:17
  Speaker 7: Rams looked like we expected them, and that was without
• 56:19
  Speaker 7: Pupin Akua or Miles Garrett.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: It looked really good the other night.
• 56:23
  Speaker 7: So those three teams are all going to be in
• 56:26
  Speaker 7: a slugfest trying to get to the top seed in
• 56:29
  Speaker 7: the NFC once again, and having a, a Superbowl champion
• 56:34
  Speaker 7: come out of that division and outside, outside of the West,
• 56:37
  Speaker 7: you know, the bears, bears losing the way they did
• 56:41
  Speaker 7: and losing Caleb Williams. I, I just still think their defense,
• 56:45
  Speaker 7: I just, I know Minnesota didn't score many points, but
• 56:48
  Speaker 7: that was with Carson Wentz as the quarterback. Like I,
• 56:51
  Speaker 7: I just, I don't trust Chicago's defense to be a
• 56:54
  Speaker 7: legitimate contender. They've got the offense to do it, but
• 56:58
  Speaker 7: I think, you know, you've got those three teams in
• 56:59
  Speaker 7: the NFC West.
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: I still think Dallas, if they can get some.
• 57:03
  Speaker 7: Of their stuff fixed on defense, I still think Dallas
• 57:06
  Speaker 7: could be a sleeper to watch on that front. If
• 57:09
  Speaker 7: Green Bay ever learns to close teams out, Green Bay
• 57:13
  Speaker 7: could be in the mix there. But it really does
• 57:16
  Speaker 7: feel like there's the NFC West, and then there's kind
• 57:19
  Speaker 7: of everybody else right now.
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: In the NFC.
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: You know, it's wild. I was just– Talking to my
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: buddy down in Dallas who covers the Cowboys, Caleb Downs
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: so far has not been what they were hoping, and
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: it's very early in the process, but there are some
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: questions already with him, which is interesting.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: That's crazy because he's had pretty good production the first
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: two weeks.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's people in Dallas that aren't happy, so I
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: like it. More the better as far as those guys
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: being met. It is Corbin Smith. We know about Emerald
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: City Spectrum. Tell us about Seahawks' triple option as well.
• 57:52
  Speaker 7: Yeah, we just launched this a couple weeks ago, Robert
• 57:55
  Speaker 7: Turbo Turban, Rob Rang.
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: And myself.
• 57:58
  Speaker 7: We have some guest hosts that come on from time
• 58:01
  Speaker 7: to time as well, and we're trying to cover every
• 58:04
  Speaker 7: single angle.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: And last night's episode would.
• 58:07
  Speaker 7: Be a really good one for you to watch if
• 58:09
  Speaker 7: you have not heard of our show yet, because it
• 58:12
  Speaker 7: was really fun to get the player, beat reporter, and
• 58:16
  Speaker 7: NFL scout perspective on the Mike McDonald, Cold War comments,
• 58:20
  Speaker 7: and that video leaking, what it never should have seen
• 58:24
  Speaker 7: the light of day. Just kind of getting perspective from
• 58:26
  Speaker 7: all three different career paths really made for a fun conversation.
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: Good stuff. And Animal City Spectrum, subscribe. Yes. How do
• 58:35
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• 58:36
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and Emerald City Spectrum, you can subscribe for $ 6
• 58:40
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• 58:48
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• 58:55
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• 59:07
  Speaker 1: And I'm going to tell you this, Corbin. One of
• 59:08
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• 59:11
  Speaker 1: everybody and everything. And with cutbacks at both newspapers, and
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: in fact, the New Seattle Times now is only covering Seahawks, Mariners,
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: Husky football full-time. That's all they're covering full-time. Nothing else
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: is a full-time beat. And so if that's the case,
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: Look for an alternative. Go to EmeraldCitySpectrum.com because you cover
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  Speaker 1: all the teams.
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  Speaker 7: And we've got great Sounders and rain coverage on our site.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: Go check it out. Gonzaga, Wazoo, Kraken, what have you.
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: It's all there. Go check it out. We'll take a break. Corbin,
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: talk to you next week. Get well. See you soon.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: Come back, check the text, and Factor Fiction next.