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Only Fans Creator Annie Knight Exposes the Athletes in Her DMs · Outspoken the Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
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  Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Kate Torber. I'm Sophie Torber. And I'm Amy Torber. And
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  Speaker 1: coming up on today's show, Life Uncuts producer jumps ship
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  Speaker 1: to rival podcast. Sky Wheatley waters down dating rumours. OnlyFans
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  Speaker 1: creator Annie Knight calls out athletes for sliding into her DMs.
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  Speaker 1: and Zoe Ray's backyard builders spark pronunciation debate. But first, Kate,
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  Speaker 1: I think you caught a lot of outspoken listeners off
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  Speaker 1: guard with your rebuttal to the bullying trend that we
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  Speaker 1: spoke about on Tuesday. Talk about a stitch up. I
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  Speaker 1: said that as a joke to make you guys laugh
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  Speaker 1: and you kept it in there, but I'm actually happy
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  Speaker 1: because a couple of people said it made them laugh.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm glad that it was taken the way it
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  Speaker 1: was I'm surprised we didn't get those messages from people
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  Speaker 1: who were like, I had my children in the car
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  Speaker 1: and was listening to this revolting. Someone did complain about
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  Speaker 1: the swearing. And I have to say there were a
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  Speaker 1: lot of F-bombs dropped in that episode. And it was
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  Speaker 1: probably to an extreme level. So I do apologize for that.
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  Speaker 1: But it wasn't even just in the bullying segment. It
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  Speaker 1: was all throughout. We need a beeper. If you're wondering
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  Speaker 1: where Kate gets her quick-witted nature from, we did the
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  Speaker 1: trend with our parents last night. Let's have a listen
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  Speaker 1: to some of their responses. Why is your nose so big? Arsehole. Jeez,
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  Speaker 1: I think you need a haircut. Why are you so deaf?
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  Speaker 1: Take a hike. The funniest thing is our dad is
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  Speaker 1: a former high school teacher and he taught at some
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  Speaker 1: pretty rough schools. So I feel like he has seen
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  Speaker 1: or been involved in a lot of schoolyard drama. So
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  Speaker 1: he's picked up some good one-liners. I never quite understood
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  Speaker 1: who Annie was and why did it matter if she
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  Speaker 1: was okay or not? OnlyFans creator Annie Knight has caused
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  Speaker 1: a stir, outing a bunch of Aussie athletes for sliding
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  Speaker 1: into her DMs. One of those athletes was AFL player
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  Speaker 1: Clayton Oliver. who has responded to the allegation in a
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  Speaker 1: rather unorthodox way, Kate. Now, before we get into it,
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  Speaker 1: can you bring listeners up to speed with who Annie is? Well,
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  Speaker 1: she is a 29-year-old OnlyFans creator and sex worker based
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  Speaker 1: on the Gold Coast. And I think it's fair to
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  Speaker 1: say that she's Australia's equivalent to Bonnie Blue. She calls
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  Speaker 1: herself Australia's most sexually active woman. And she made headlines
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  Speaker 1: last year when she undertook a public sex challenge where
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  Speaker 1: she reportedly had sex with over 500 men in a
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  Speaker 1: single day. Now, she has a massive online following. She
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  Speaker 1: has 322,000 followers on Instagram and 104,000 on TikTok. And
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  Speaker 1: what makes this story even juicier is the fact that
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  Speaker 1: her fiancé is Henry Brayshaw. He is the son of
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  Speaker 1: AFL commentator and former cricketer James Brayshaw. who used to
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  Speaker 1: be one of the hosts on the footy show. Ever
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  Speaker 1: since I found out that Annie dates James Brayshaw's son,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just like, what is his reaction to it? Well,
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  Speaker 1: she doesn't just date his son. They're engaged. So they
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  Speaker 1: got engaged in March last year. They're set to get
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  Speaker 1: married in October. It's not far away. They've actually known
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  Speaker 1: each other for almost 10 years. So they met while
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  Speaker 1: working at a pub together. And after a failed attempt
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  Speaker 1: at dating, they remained friends for a number of years
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  Speaker 1: and then rekindled their relationship in late 2024. I wonder
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  Speaker 1: if that means that she has spent a lot of
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  Speaker 1: time around the Brayshaw family because it's very sad. Annie
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  Speaker 1: actually came out recently and confirmed that Henry is estranged
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  Speaker 1: from James Brayshaw. So reading between the lines, it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: seem like he's ultra supportive of this relationship. Now, Henry,
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  Speaker 1: on the other hand, has always publicly supported Annie's sex work.
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  Speaker 1: She actually took part in that sex challenge three months
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  Speaker 1: after announcing their engagement. And she obviously was asked a
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  Speaker 1: lot of questions about, well, how does this relationship work?
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  Speaker 1: So she told her followers that Henry is monogamous and
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  Speaker 1: they actually treat her sex work separate from their relationship.
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  Speaker 1: It's sad to hear that Henry's estranged from his father because,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they've got a wedding coming up and I
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  Speaker 1: feel like weddings usually either bring people together or push
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  Speaker 1: people further apart. Yeah, well, I don't think this recent
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  Speaker 1: situation would have helped anything nor the fact that they
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  Speaker 1: are also starring in Stan's latest reality show called Turned
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  Speaker 1: On Dirty Sexy Money. And they're on the show, they're
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  Speaker 1: not holding back. So they've been delving into some of
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  Speaker 1: Henry's personal issues. So in the past, he's spoken openly
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  Speaker 1: about struggling with gambling and alcohol addiction. Why did it
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  Speaker 1: make me laugh hearing you say the title of the show,
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  Speaker 1: Turned On Dirty Sexy Money? Just the way you said
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  Speaker 1: it was classic. Look, I haven't actually tuned into it,
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  Speaker 1: but I think I might. Like it actually sounds really good. Now,
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  Speaker 1: as I was saying at the end of the series,
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  Speaker 1: Annie gives Henry an ultimatum to turn his life around
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  Speaker 1: or she'll leave the relationship. I wonder if James Brayshaw
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  Speaker 1: is tuning into that one or if that's something you
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  Speaker 1: just pretend that you haven't seen it's on. Now, we
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  Speaker 1: need to talk about Annie's call-out video because it's gone
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  Speaker 1: absolutely viral. At the time of recording, it's had 1.2
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  Speaker 1: million views on Instagram and 255,000 views on TikTok. She
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  Speaker 1: definitely knows how to work the algorithm because she hooked
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  Speaker 1: people in instantly by saying this. In honour of Scott
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  Speaker 1: McCreery's dad and Baz Lenker's dating saga, I thought I
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  Speaker 1: would out some of the AFL players and cricket players
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  Speaker 1: that have slid into my DMs.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, boys.
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  Speaker 1: Hold on, I'm confused. Who's the dad? I've missed something here. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: my God, Sobhia, you're not across this. So I feel
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  Speaker 1: so sorry for Collingwood footballer Bo McCreery because his dad, Scott,
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  Speaker 1: was caught out sending a public message to Annie. So
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  Speaker 1: it read as if he was propositioning her. It said, Hi, Annie.
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  Speaker 1: I'm in Adelaide, SA. I would love to give you
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  Speaker 1: a go. How do I go about seeing you? Hopefully
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  Speaker 1: I hear from you. Now this obviously made headlines and
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  Speaker 1: the Herald Sun contacted Scott who told them he wrote
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  Speaker 1: the comment on a quote, a whim. Is he married?
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  Speaker 1: I'm not actually sure about his situation, but when I
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  Speaker 1: initially read the story, I read his name as Mick Creepy,
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  Speaker 1: which I think seems like a better fit. Well, we
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  Speaker 1: spoke in our subs episode a couple of weeks ago
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  Speaker 1: about that poor Channel 7 reporter who got sacked and
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  Speaker 1: then they found out later that her dad had been
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  Speaker 1: trolling some of the reporters on social media. Yeah. This
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  Speaker 1: is even more embarrassing for this footballer and another example
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  Speaker 1: of why some parents should just not be allowed on
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  Speaker 1: social media. I need to know the footballers that Annie
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  Speaker 1: called out in her video because I'm sure there were
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  Speaker 1: a few nervous people when her video went out. Well,
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  Speaker 1: Bailey Smith got a mention at the start when she said,
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  Speaker 1: you know, in light of Bazalenka, which is his Instagram
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  Speaker 1: handle's dating saga, that was of course in relation to
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  Speaker 1: That lobby selfie that went viral, you know, when he
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  Speaker 1: was dating the two girls. We covered that in depth
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  Speaker 1: on Friday's episode. Plural. Lobby selfies. Yeah, sorry. Lobby selfies.
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  Speaker 1: There were two photos. He got a mention as one
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  Speaker 1: of the AFL footballers that had slid into her DMs. Apparently,
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  Speaker 1: he is a repeat offender alongside Giants player Clayton Oliver.
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  Speaker 1: Cricketer Cooper Conley also got a mention. Annie served him
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  Speaker 1: quite the ultimate burn though, saying that Henry had to
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  Speaker 1: tell her who the cricketer was. She also provided the receipt.
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  Speaker 1: So she shared alleged screenshots of the messages. To be
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  Speaker 1: fair though, they weren't actually as bad as I thought
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  Speaker 1: they were going to be. So Clayton wrote everything to
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  Speaker 1: one of her Instagram stories. I think it was where
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  Speaker 1: she was wearing some bikinis. He also wrote Annie. I
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  Speaker 1: think the time codes were almost more incriminating. They were
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  Speaker 1: very early in the mornings. Yeah, she also showed that
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  Speaker 1: he had tried to call her at like 2.40 in
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  Speaker 1: the morning. As for Bailey, he allegedly replied heaven to
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  Speaker 1: one of her thirst trap photos. And he also asked
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  Speaker 1: Annie to put in a good word for him with Lily. Now,
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  Speaker 1: the Lily in question is Lily Phillips, who is also
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  Speaker 1: an adult content creator. It was pretty iconic because Annie
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  Speaker 1: closed off the video by flashing her engagement ring and
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  Speaker 1: told the boys to stay out of her DMs and
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  Speaker 1: she captioned the video, sorry boys, but you're trying to
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  Speaker 1: cut Henry Brayshaw's lunch. So calmer, I guess. Do any
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  Speaker 1: of these guys have girlfriends or wives? Well, we found
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  Speaker 1: out last week that there are a lot of women
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  Speaker 1: who think they're exclusive with Bailey Smith, but it seems
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  Speaker 1: like he is single and Clayton Oliver is single. So really,
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  Speaker 1: This is some single guys sliding into her DMs. I
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  Speaker 1: know she's not single. I also think, though, if you're
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  Speaker 1: willing to send a flirtatious message from your own account
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  Speaker 1: when you have a public profile, then you should also
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  Speaker 1: be open to those screenshots being shared. You should stand
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  Speaker 1: by what you send. I mean, how many DMs would
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  Speaker 1: these guys be sliding into? They would not even care. Also,
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  Speaker 1: if you're sliding into Annie Knight's DMs, expect to be
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  Speaker 1: exposed because this is clearly going a content piece for her.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think she was offended by the fact that
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  Speaker 1: they slid into her DMs. I mean, people are accusing
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  Speaker 1: her of deliberately naming and shaming these guys to generate publicity. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: that is exactly what she's doing. She knows how to
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  Speaker 1: generate headlines and attention, which creates more money for her.
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  Speaker 1: That is the whole business model for her. Particularly when
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  Speaker 1: you consider the fact that these stories are being picked
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  Speaker 1: up in the mainstream media, particularly in the sports media
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  Speaker 1: where a lot of men follow. So in tune, they're
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  Speaker 1: going to then hear about her and go, oh, maybe
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  Speaker 1: I should follow her on OnlyFans. Some more AFL players'
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  Speaker 1: dads might realise who she is. That's right. Now, behind
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  Speaker 1: closed doors, Clayton Oliver made light of the situation. So
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  Speaker 1: he was filmed by a teammate in the Giants locker
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  Speaker 1: room after their win last weekend, singing the lyrics, Annie,
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  Speaker 1: are you okay? From Michael Jackson's song, Smooth Criminal. Let's
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  Speaker 1: take a listen.
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  Speaker 3: Annie, are you okay? Annie, are you okay? Annie, are
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  Speaker 3: you okay? Annie, are you okay?
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  Speaker 1: Annie, are you okay? That's one of my favorite Michael
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  Speaker 1: Jackson songs. Now, originally, when I saw this clip during
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  Speaker 1: the rounds, I thought Clayton had shared the vision himself.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, he's just taking a leaf
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  Speaker 1: out of Bailey Smith's handbook from last week. He's trying
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  Speaker 1: to turn this accusation into a joke. However, it turns
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  Speaker 1: out that the video was actually posted by a popular
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  Speaker 1: sporting Instagram called Forgotten Stuff. So that means that one
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  Speaker 1: of Clayton's teammates leaked the vision to this Instagram account now.
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  Speaker 1: GWS's captain Toby Green confirmed in an interview that, yes,
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  Speaker 1: the vision had been leaked. And he said that the
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  Speaker 1: playing group was still getting to the bottom of who
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  Speaker 1: shared it. Reading between the lines, I think he actually
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  Speaker 1: knows who did, but they just don't obviously want to
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  Speaker 1: get that into the media. Toby said the team's WhatsApp
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  Speaker 1: group had been blowing up since the vision went live.
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  Speaker 2: I mean.
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  Speaker 1: Clayton Oliver ended up leaning into it probably because he
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  Speaker 1: got quite a positive reaction. I mean, people thought it
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  Speaker 1: was funny. So he reposted the video on Instagram with
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  Speaker 1: the caption, would love to know, are you actually okay?
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  Speaker 1: And tagged Annie Knight. I mean, it is a good
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  Speaker 1: way to acknowledge the story without actually confirming or denying
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  Speaker 1: what Annie said.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, by embracing it, he really is just disarming
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  Speaker 1: Annie's attempt at embarrassing him. I mean, He's almost flipped
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  Speaker 1: the embarrassment back onto her by making her the punchline,
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  Speaker 1: which I don't really like. I mean, you're the one
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  Speaker 1: that decided to contact her. So don't be so hurt
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  Speaker 1: about it. I think it's fair because she was having
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  Speaker 1: a bit of fun by naming and shaming them. And
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  Speaker 1: now they've had fun with this video. I tend to
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  Speaker 1: agree with you in this situation, Amy, but there was
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  Speaker 1: a part of me that felt like it was almost
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  Speaker 1: pushing into that territory where men call women crazy or
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  Speaker 1: unhinged to try and diminish what they're saying by saying, oh,
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  Speaker 1: are you okay? I wonder how GWS feel about it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's not a good look that this was
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  Speaker 1: filmed in their locker rooms after a match. I would
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  Speaker 1: hate to be a media manager at one of these
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  Speaker 1: footy clubs at the moment because now that athletes have
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  Speaker 1: their own social media and their own personal brands, it's
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  Speaker 1: really hard to rein them in because back in the
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  Speaker 1: day when there wasn't social media, you know, you just
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  Speaker 1: had the footy club's brand to uphold. But now these
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  Speaker 1: players are like, oh, well, I get probably more money
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  Speaker 1: with sponsorship deals if I've got a big following. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm just going to put whatever I want out there.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't really care how it affects the club
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  Speaker 1: at all. I actually think it's better for the game
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  Speaker 1: because I think for a couple of years now, everyone's
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  Speaker 1: been saying that the AFL is so sanitized. Everyone's media trained.
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  Speaker 1: We don't have the big characters that we're used to.
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  Speaker 1: I personally am only interested in in the footy when
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  Speaker 1: a big scandal like this happens. It's definitely bringing personality
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  Speaker 1: back into the game, but I don't know if it's
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  Speaker 1: a good look, like particularly some of these scandals where
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  Speaker 1: the AFL players are treating women quite poorly. It's not
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  Speaker 1: really attracting female audiences. And it's just playing into that stereotype.
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  Speaker 1: Something we never thought we would say. I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: cry already. It's a day we– I'm going to cry too. No, actually,
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: it's a day we never thought would come. but it's here.
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: The podcast space has had a shake-up with news Life
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: Uncut's much-loved producer Keisha Pettit is jumping ship to a
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: rival podcast. Laura Byrne and Brit Hockley chose not to
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: reveal where their executive producer was headed next, sparking widespread
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  Speaker 1: speculation among listeners. Now, Soph, the Life Uncut host broke
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  Speaker 1: the news to their listeners last week in an episode entitled,
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  Speaker 1: We Have Some Very Big News. I think this news
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  Speaker 1: caught a lot of listeners off guard. The team said
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: that they had been sitting on it for quite a
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: while because they'd been away on holidays and they were
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: trying to figure out the best way to manage the situation. Now,
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: Laura and Britt led into the news by joking that
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: they'd fired Keisha, but they quickly revealed the real reason,
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: saying it was down to career progression. Let's take a
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: listen to some of what they said.
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  Speaker 3: We are family here and we've all been working together
• 13:36
  Speaker 3: for so long. But the thing is, we are one,
• 13:40
  Speaker 3: even though the podcast does relatively well in the rankers,
• 13:43
  Speaker 3: we are one small podcast. Like we are one and
• 13:46
  Speaker 3: we live and breathe what Life Uncut is.
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  Speaker 1: We're a family.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. And Keish has been at the top of what
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  Speaker 3: this podcast can offer and what it is for as
• 13:56
  Speaker 3: long as we've had employees.
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  Speaker 1: She was our first employee.
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  Speaker 3: And there is no further to go in terms of
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  Speaker 3: career progression or in terms of like next steps. And
• 14:04
  Speaker 3: we only want what's best for you. And we only
• 14:07
  Speaker 3: want you to continue to, oh.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so sorry that I'm crying.
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  Speaker 3: We only want you to continue to develop your skills
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  Speaker 3: and to like do what makes you happy.
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  Speaker 1: Just grow a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: And just to be incredible.
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  Speaker 1: Like we really want what's best for you.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, we're devastated for us and that chair will
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: be a very hard chair to fill.
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: This is an absolutely massive blow for Life Uncut because
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: Keisha really brought a lot to the table. Not only
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: was she a producer, but she also acted as a
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: co-host when Laura was on maternity leave and also when
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: Britt's been overseas travelling to see her husband. Yeah, she
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: was very popular with Life Uncut's listeners. I'm a part
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: of their Facebook page and I often saw a lot
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: of commentary around the fact that people were hoping that
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: she was made a full-time co-host. Well, prior to working
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: at Life Uncut, she actually worked in Breakfast Radio on
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: the Hit Network and also on Sports Radio for Triple M.
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  Speaker 1: So she did bring some audio experience to the team
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  Speaker 1: as well. I can only imagine how difficult this conversation
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: would have been for her to broach with Laura and
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: Britt because They have built a really genuine friendship. I
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  Speaker 1: have to admit, when I saw this news, I was like, oh,
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: my God, who's going to dog sit Brit's dog? Because
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: it seemed like Keisha was always looking after her beautiful dog.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I wonder if that was part of the
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: job description, look after dog whilst overseas. I mean, I'd
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: do it. The dog is so cute. It's interesting because
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: as they touched on in that grab, even though Life
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: Uncut is one of Australia's biggest podcasts, they haven't grown
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: into a podcast network like Shameless and Mamma Mia. Have
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: they only produced their one show? So in terms of
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: Keisha wanting to progress her career, it'd be really difficult
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: for her to do that at Life Uncut. I mean,
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: they have dipped their toe into a couple of spinoff series.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: It was actually Keisha who produced a series through Life
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: Uncut called Cloud, and that was a 10-part miniseries about
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: late diagnosis of ADHD in women. And it was inspired
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: by her own experience. And she got a lot of
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: praise for that series. So I wonder if it was
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: that series who... got her the attention of her new employer,
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: which we will touch on in a second. I can
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  Speaker 1: imagine it would be a difficult situation to be in
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  Speaker 1: if you were Keisha because she came into Brit and
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Laura's podcast business at a time where, you know, it
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  Speaker 1: was in its infancy. It was clearly making some money,
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: but not as much money as it would be making
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: now because she was their first employee. They obviously were like, oh,
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: we've got a bit of money. We can actually pay
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: someone to help us out. In the last couple of years,
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: it's clear they're earning a lot of money off that podcast.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: And she's probably sitting back going, maybe I can have
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: a piece of that pie for myself somewhere else. Yeah,
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: it would be tough, particularly because they are such close friends.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: So she's probably in on just how much that podcast
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: is raking in. And then it'd be tough because she's
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: doing a pretty similar role to them. She's there for
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: all of the recordings. She's investing a lot of time
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: and energy into it, but it's not actually her baby
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day. So she's not able
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: to make the huge profits off it. Britt and Laura are,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: it seems like Britt and Laura are very loyal with
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: who they work with because when they left ARN to
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: go to Listener at the start of the year, they
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: ended up bringing over Claire Rosaro, who was their Partnerships
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Director at ARN. She also used to work with us.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: She's absolutely lovely. And she now holds the title of
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: GM at Life Uncut. So this would be really emotional
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: for Laura and Britt to lose you know, their first
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: employee with Keisha. I think this is going to hit
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: them really hard. I mean, it clearly wasn't an easy
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: decision for Keisha. She was pretty emotional about it and
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: she spoke about how genuine Brit and Laura's friendship is.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: She said that, you know, she's previously worked in radio
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: before and she's known a lot of on-air friendships that
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: are really hammed up for the optics. But she said
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: that she thinks Brit and Laura's dynamic is reversed because
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: they're actually so much closer off-air than people would assume. Well,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: she described them as her best friends, bosses, and also
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: the closest thing to sisters. I mean, it's very clear
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: that Laura and Britt want what's best for her because
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: they said that they understand it's time for Keisha to
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: spread her wings and have a different adventure and that
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: they would support her no matter what. They did joke, though,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: that it was never too late for her to change
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: her mind and that a seat will always be there
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: if she decides to come crawling back. The interesting thing
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: is this was a lengthy segment, but they didn't say
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: where Keisha was actually going. which sparked a lot of speculation.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: And it seemed like Brit and Laura were trying to
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: avoid answering the question because listeners kept posting threads in
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: the Life Uncut group asking like, where's Keisha going? But
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: they weren't approved and comments were being deleted. In our
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Facebook community, one listener wrote, is Keisha from Life Uncut
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: going to work at Shameless or Mamma Mia or something?
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: They won't say why she's leaving. They did say, we
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: won't support you publicly, but we'll support you privately. I
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: want to point out that that comment about not supporting
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: her privately was a bit tongue in cheek. Like it
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: was a bit of a joke. There were a lot
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: of guesses in our Facebook community as to where she
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: was going. Some of the guesses, as you touched on,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: included Shameless and Mamma Mia, as well as Mitch Turi's
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: new podcast, The Big Small Talk or Kyle Sanderland's new podcast.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: Others guessed maybe she was launching her own show. Should
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: we be offended that no one was like, oh, I
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: think she's coming to Outspoken? Yeah, she's coming to bigger
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: and better things at Outspoken podcast. They're going to offer
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: her absolute bank because they've been a bit run off
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: their feet now that they've got three kids. Maybe we
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: should have thrown that in as a suggestion just to
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: get a bit of publicity. Anyway, we can't afford her. Well,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: the one question I have, I would love to have
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: her work here. Don't get me wrong. Now, on Monday,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: it was revealed that Keisha was making the move to
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Mamma Mia!, the women's media publication issued a press release
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: announcing her as the new EP of Mamma Mia Out Loud.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: So she has moved on. on to Australia's number one podcast. Immediately,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: I wondered, is this a new move from Mamma Mia's
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: new CEO, Luca Levine? And it appears it is because
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: in the media release, he said, we're building shows that
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: live everywhere our audience is across audio, video, social and community.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: That takes exceptional people and we're investing in the strongest
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: pod team in the country. These three appointments, because I
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: hired two other journos, are a signal of where we're
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: headed and how serious we are about getting there. Now, Sophie,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: you just casually touched on the fact that Mama Mia
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: has a new CEO. This was big news a couple
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: of weeks ago when it was announced because Luca Levine
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: is none other than Mia Friedman's 28-year-old son. There was
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: a lot of commentary around the fact that it was nepotism,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: that it was you know, it wasn't on brand for
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Mama Mia because he was male. This is despite the
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: fact that Mia Friedman's husband was CEO for majority of
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: the time Mama Mia has been in business. Look, I
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: won't have a bad word said about Luca Levine. We
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: have had some dealings with him and he is nothing
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: but professional. I can definitely see the optics of it
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: weren't great, but he's incredibly smart. It makes sense for
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: a family business. I saw a lot of people being like,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: this is sexist. It should be a woman. And I
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: was like, It's actually not feminist for you to just
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: assume that a woman should be in the role. Feminism
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: is about gender equality, not just one person automatically getting something.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: But I was like, it's nepotism if it's anything. Yeah,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: let's call it for what it is. If you're going
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: to complain, it's nepotism. I can understand the criticism though.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: I totally get it.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: Oh, definitely.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, as we said, the optics weren't great and
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: there was a lot of backlash over it. They ended
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: up recording this episode with Luca on it and it was...
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Mia Friedman, Holly Wainwright, and then Jesse Stevens, who is
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Luca Levine's wife. They have three children together interviewing him.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: So it was kind of like, oh, I don't know
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: if this actually helps the situation because it's like, here's
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: my mom and my wife pumping up my tires because
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: he came across quite modest. He was like, oh, I
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: don't really want to talk myself up. And then Jesse
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: and Mia were like, but you've done this and that.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, This probably would have been better if
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: it was more neutral people interviewing him. That being said,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Jessie also pointed out that if she wasn't involved in
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: Mamma Mia and she saw the headlines, she would also think, oh, what? Like,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: this is crazy. Like a 28-year-old son of the owner.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: But anyway, I genuinely think, though, that he is the
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: right person for the job. And I think, if anything,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: this latest move from him is a stroke of genius.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: It shows that he has his finger on the pulse
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: when it comes to the podcast world because This is
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: a very big get. She has a large online following.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: People are invested in her life. They will then go
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: from life on cut over to listen to Mama Mia
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: out loud. And to be honest, I think Mama Mia
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: out loud needs a breath of fresh air because I
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: used to listen three times a week. Obviously, I don't
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: have as much time now having a young son, but
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: I'm not as into the topics and I feel like
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: maybe they need someone else listening. to revitalize it. What
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Mamma Mia have done recently is also not rely on
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: just having their three regular hosts. So they've also got
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Amelia Lester on board. They've got Em Vernon also on
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: the Friday show. Big fan of her. Yeah, I love
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Em Vernon. I wouldn't be surprised if Keisha moves into
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: one of the regular hosting gigs as well. Oh, definitely.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: I think that that would be part of the contract.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, Surely they're also offering her some serious cash
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: to make the move over. As you touched on, Kate,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: they are Australia's number one podcast. They've had 156.4 million downloads.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: So there's obviously prestige involved in her moving over, but
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: I also think it would have taken a lot of
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: cash for her to leave her friends behind. And also
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: when you work with your friends, It's probably quite difficult
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: to negotiate a new wage. I mean, she started working
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: at Life Uncut five years ago. When they initially hired her,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: they probably weren't paying her that much. She was their
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: first hire. And so whether that wage has gone up,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: who knows? I think that Brit and Laura would remunerate
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: their friends well. I think it's probably just at a
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: point where, as I said, there's not a career progression. And,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: you know, if she wants to earn bigger figures, then
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: she has to go elsewhere. Yeah. Do you reckon that
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Life Uncut is secretly pissed behind closed doors? They have
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: had this friendly banter with Mamma Mia in the past
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: because both shows kept being put up for the most
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: popular show at the podcast awards and Life Uncut kept
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: winning and Mamma Mia kept joking like, how are we
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: going to get them this year? And they made it
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: clear that they were all good friends and it was
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: all a bit of banter because apparently they actually have
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: a group chat going where they regularly catch up with
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: one another, but this has probably pissed them off. I
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: don't know so much if they would be pissed off
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: with Mamma Mia. I think that It'll be interesting to
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: see if the three women remain as close as they were.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: It would be rather awkward. Yeah, because I wonder if
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Keisha has signed a confidentiality agreement where she can't discuss
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Mamma Mia's future plans with obviously her old friends at
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: the Rival podcast. I know Life Uncut recently signed with Listener,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: so they take care of their sponsorship. But I wonder
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: if the next move from Mamma Mia is to get
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: life uncut under their umbrella. Well, I think Laura Byrne
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: did a couple of parenting podcasts through Mamma Mia, and
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: I know they both occasionally do some articles for them.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: So who knows? Well, I guess we'll just have to
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: watch this space. Sky Wheatley has watered down rumours that
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: she's dating comedian Julian Woods after pap photos of the
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: pair on a dinner date at Fortitude Valley were published.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: In a Q & A, a follower asked, is it
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: true you're dating already? Now, she replied on her Instagram
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: story with a picture of her son Bear at sushi
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: and wrote, only boys I'm going on dates with are
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: my little mans. What do you guys think about it? Look,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: I'm personally not buying it. I think what's happened is
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: behind the scenes, Lockie may have gone off because we
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: actually posted a reel, which was a bit of a
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: cut up of the segment we did on it. And
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Lockie War slid into our DMs and he wrote, pop
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: off queen. Now that message was swiftly deleted. He also
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: followed Outspoken's Instagram account. So I think he may have
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: his own side of the story to share. Well, if
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: he wants to share it on Outspoken, there's always the
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: platform for him as well. I want to add, he
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: did add a laughing face with the pop-off queen comment.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: He also liked the reel and listeners started noticing and saying, oh,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: my God, he likes this reel. He unliked it as well.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: I reckon that comment that he sent to us wasn't
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: for us and someone had forwarded him our reel and
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: he thought he was responding to that person. No, because
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: he followed us. And he's messaged us before because what
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: was that, Sauna and Sausages or something? When he went rogue.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Was it last year he went a bit rogue and was,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: doing some Instagram stories from the sauna, a few gins deep,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: and it was very entertaining. We said he's the next
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: star of Instagram that we would like to see more
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: content from. We're big Lockie War fans. He is hilarious.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: I really hope that if he and Sky do part permanently,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: we still see him sharing some funny stuff. I actually
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: think that his comments to us spoke volumes because clearly
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: this date has ruffled his feathers. I get the feeling
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: he was blindsided by it and he thinks it's pretty
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: disrespectful considering they haven't officially announced their split online yet.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: And that would be why Sky has done a Q & A. Obviously,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: she knew she was going to be asked about it.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: And she's being all defensive, like, oh, no, I'm not
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: going out on dates. It's just a friend. And, you know,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: the paparazzi just took photos of me. Also, him saying
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: pop-off queen, it's like he doesn't give a shit. Like,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: it's clearly over. And he's like, it's quite defensive. If
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: you don't give a shit, you're not contacting the page
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: to put it up there. You just move on. You
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? Yeah. There were a lot of
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: listeners who believed Sky's story, though, because under the reel,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: they were saying, oh, they're just friends. So one girl wrote...
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: A girl's allowed to have friends, whilst another said she
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: gets along with males more than females. I'm guessing they're
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: just friends. I don't buy that they're just friends. I
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: actually don't think that this guy Julian is just catching
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: up with Sky as a friend. She might be. Well,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: unless they're friends and she's using him to piss Lockie off.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Friends with benefits. Well, no, I don't mean friends with benefits.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, you know, sometimes when you want to get
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: back at somebody and for her it would be great
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: to be seen with this celebrity comedian in quotation. Isn't
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: friends with benefits such an old term? I feel like
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: that was used a lot. Oh, no, fuck buddies. I
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: feel like that was used a lot. when we were
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: in our 20s. But now I think people just say fuckboy.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Like I don't think that there's– do people still use
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: friends with benefits? But a fuckboy is different. A fuckboy
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: is a guy that fucks around. Sorry for people that
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: were complaining about swearing. No, it's now a sneaky link,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: isn't it? What? What's a sneaky link? It reminds me
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: of Chris Lilley's Sneaky Nuts. A sneaky link is slang
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: for a person– that you have a secret or like
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: a casual hookup with. So it's a bit like a
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: secret fuck buddy. Oh my God. I need to point
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: out that just reminded me last week when we were
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: talking about Bailey Smith, we read out a text message
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: from him and it had said something about our, you know,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: I was flogged at training and then he said like
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: KMS and Soph and I are like, oh, I think
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: he means kilometers or something. Apparently that slang for kill myself,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: it's like the new FML, like fuck my life. And
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: someone said, we actually had two listeners send it to us.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: And I was like, oh my God, I feel like
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: a boomer. I didn't even know that. If you thought
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: that was a low, what about Sophie pronouncing Al Pacino,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Al Pacino, or was it you? No, that was Kat
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: who pronounced it wrong. I cringe. I wasn't involved in
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: the episode, but I edited it. And I think I
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: was so deliriously tired. I didn't even notice it while editing.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: I didn't know who you were trying to reference, to
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: be honest. Look, this is going to sound like an
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: excuse because it is, but I think it's a valid one.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Sophie and I are operating with incredibly low iron. We're
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: both anemic. We've had blood tests recently. Sophie's ferritin for
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: those playing at home is in the negative. Yeah, I
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: want to cut. Is negative five. I want to cut
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: in there, Kat. You said I'm operating on low iron.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: I'm actually operating on no iron. So it says that
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: I am completely depleted. And I think it's making a
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: lot of sense why I've had a fridge ciggy addiction
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: because I'm trying to just get any boost of energy. Anyway,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: I will be going into that in more detail on
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: the mum's group. So Sophie's not dumb. She's just depleted
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: of iron. It's a wonder I'm actually operating as is.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: I remember last time this happened to me, my doctor
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: was like, are you depressed? And I was like, I
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: don't think so. See, I'm so looking forward to it
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: because mine was very low, not as low as that.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: Like I'm not in the negatives, but I think mine
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: was like three or five or something. I can't even remember.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, wow, Sophie, we're going to be back.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: I'm on top of the world, babe. Quoting Elle Darby there.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: It might explain some of the clips that have come
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: out recently of us yelling at each other. They were
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: from three years ago, though. Yeah, we might not have
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: any of those bloopers anymore. We might have to ham
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: them up a bit. No, I think they'll still be happening.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Danny calls it a pagoda as well, so I don't know.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: On this podcast and also in our everyday lives, we
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: love debating the pronunciation of different words. So this story
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: is right up our alley. Now, UK influencer Zoe Ray,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: who is the sister of Molly May, side note, I
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: still can't get over that their names rhyme since she
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: got married. What are the odds really? Like this isn't
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: something that they've tried to play on either. Yeah, it's wild. Now,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Zoe has sparked debate over the pronunciation of the word pergola.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: The popular YouTuber who's recently been vlogging about her backyard
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: renovations said this.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: The men that are fitting the pergola. Is it a
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: pergola or a pergola? Because our gardeners say pergola, but
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: I've always called it a pergola. I'm sure it's a pergola.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: When they said pergola, I was like, I actually don't
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: know what you're talking about.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: A pergola?
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: What the fuck? Yeah. I've never ever heard that before. Like,
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: is this an Aussie versus British thing? Yeah, how can
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: you fuck it up so much when you actually put
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: pergolas up? Yeah, it's like they're professions. I actually thought
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: this was satire because I have never ever heard anyone
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: call it a pergola. I was like, what the fuck?
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Is that meant to be like a posh way of
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: saying it or is pergola a posh way of saying it?
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Definitely pergola would be the posher way. I literally ran
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  Speaker 1: to the comment section of this YouTube because I was like,
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  Speaker 1: surely people are going to be saying, you're right, Zoe.
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  Speaker 1: What are these people talking about? But I was shocked
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  Speaker 1: to hear that the majority of her viewers agreed with
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  Speaker 1: the builders. So one person wrote, sorry to be the
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  Speaker 1: one to say it, but the builders are indeed saying
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  Speaker 1: it correctly. It's pergola. Whilst another said American here and
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  Speaker 1: the way everyone else has said pergola in the comments
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  Speaker 1: and the builders is the way I say it as well. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so it's an American thing. Well, I did some research, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and apparently it depends what side of the Atlantic you're on.
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  Speaker 1: So the British pronounce it pergola whilst the Americans say pergola. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But then why was it a British company with employees
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  Speaker 1: that were from England pronouncing it like that? But also
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  Speaker 1: like at the same time, it's not a common word
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  Speaker 1: that pops up on American sitcoms. And you know, sometimes like,
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  Speaker 1: for instance, I say schedule because that's the English way
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  Speaker 1: of saying it. Whilst a lot of times it's mentioned
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  Speaker 1: on American shows as schedule. That's why a lot of
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  Speaker 1: Australians say it like that. But pergola, I've never heard
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  Speaker 1: that mentioned on a TV show. It's like on the
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  Speaker 1: recent episode of MasterChef that Meghan Markle was on. She
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  Speaker 1: was like, do you say herbs or herbs? And I
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  Speaker 1: was like, oh, just the pronunciation of herbs. Oh, that, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that grates on me. I was actually thinking more of
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  Speaker 1: that Simpson episode where they're like, oh, it's in the garage. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: a garage. What do you call yours? He's like, a
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  Speaker 1: car hole. Well, that is where we are going to
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  Speaker 1: leave things today. If you did enjoy the show and
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  Speaker 1: and I had a debate about how many gifted stays
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: is too many off the back of Steph Clare Smith
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  Speaker 1: having four free holidays within the space of a month.
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  Speaker 1: You sound salty, Kate.
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  Speaker 3: I was.
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  Speaker 1: I put it out there. I said, the elephant in
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  Speaker 1: the room is, I wish it was me. She addressed
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  Speaker 1: that she's jealous of it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I put it out there. I think everyone is.
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  Speaker 1: And we also discussed why I'm disappointed in the block
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  Speaker 1: this year. Oh, I'm spewing. I'm spewing. I was getting
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  Speaker 1: so amped to watch that. I'll have to tune in
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  Speaker 1: because I actually wasn't part of that episode. So I
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: will enjoy listening to that. That is all we have
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  Speaker 1: time for today. This episode was recorded on the traditional
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  Speaker 1: land of the Kaurna people of the Adelaide Plains. We
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  Speaker 1: pay respect to elders past and present.