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Villains Gonna Vill · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with i R Radio. My goodness, it feels good to
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  Speaker 1: be here. This is almost hemous podcast. I'm Ben, I'm Ashley,
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  Speaker 1: and it is episode two of Clayton's season. And Ben, um,
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  Speaker 1: I'm enjoying you enjoying. I am enjoying. I was just
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  Speaker 1: gonna say that. I feel like, hey, I I think
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  Speaker 1: we said it best last week. I have no questions
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  Speaker 1: about Clayton as a human, Like, this is no critique
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  Speaker 1: on Clayton as a human whatsoever. I had questions about
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  Speaker 1: him being chosen as the Bachelor. But I'm enjoying this season,
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  Speaker 1: which makes me right now say Clayton is doing a
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  Speaker 1: great job as our Bachelor. I really think that. Or
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  Speaker 1: the producers are doing a great job producing the show.
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  Speaker 1: I mean that, and the women are really stepping up.
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  Speaker 1: I mean they are really doing more than they were asked.
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  Speaker 1: There was there was one tendency of of Clayton's that
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  Speaker 1: I picked up though on I think he's very obvious
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  Speaker 1: when he's into somebody when he's not. And I think
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  Speaker 1: he's going in for kisses with girls that he's not
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  Speaker 1: even so into. Why not, I mean, come on now,
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  Speaker 1: so for it. I mean, but yeah, we're gonna break
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  Speaker 1: down all of this with Connor Saley today, the whole episode.
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  Speaker 1: But I will say, uh, as of right now, producers
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  Speaker 1: or whatever, I'm enjoying this season. I do not mind
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  Speaker 1: watching Clayton on television, which sometimes I have like just this,
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  Speaker 1: like I would rather not see you until right now.
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  Speaker 1: I'm enjoying watching him. I think I still think he's
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  Speaker 1: gonna get have a really hard time. I still think
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  Speaker 1: the drama is gonna like weigh on him. I think
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  Speaker 1: that is gonna be at times difficult. But the season,
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  Speaker 1: the season is gonna be good to watch. Like if
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  Speaker 1: I'm just a viewer, it's gonna be good to watch.
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  Speaker 1: I agreed. That's what Nick was telling us last week.
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  Speaker 1: Let's not give Nick all the credit here. Hey Ashley,
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  Speaker 1: it's a it's a big week for you. Um obviously, Uh,
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  Speaker 1: we celebrate your baby shower, thanks to hund for that.
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  Speaker 1: We also, um, I'm recovering from COVID. So like he
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  Speaker 1: didn't have symptoms people he had like a stuff like
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  Speaker 1: did you even have a stuff? He knows? He said,
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  Speaker 1: I was tired. I was tired, I had stuffy knows
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  Speaker 1: I was a little tired. I'm now done. I'm negative.
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  Speaker 1: I'm back at the game. I'm ready to go. I'm
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  Speaker 1: still a little stuffy, not super stuffy, but I I
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  Speaker 1: you know, we made it through it. We worked all
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  Speaker 1: week with it, and uh, and we're back healthy and
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  Speaker 1: ready for this week's episode. Ashley, You're back home. We
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  Speaker 1: talked about on your baby shower episode, which will air
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  Speaker 1: the twentie of this month. That's a big episode, that's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of we had a lot of fun. It was.
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  Speaker 1: It was awesome again. That was just so much fun
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  Speaker 1: to celebrate you and bring in some guests. But that
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  Speaker 1: will air the twenty But until then, you are back
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  Speaker 1: home right now for anybody listening for a few months
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  Speaker 1: kind of uh, I'm actually I think I'm gonna say
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  Speaker 1: the white right word here. You're nesting until the baby
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  Speaker 1: is born. I don't know. No, nesting is when you're
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  Speaker 1: like decorating and organizing, and that's the one thing that
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  Speaker 1: I can't do, which is so frustrating actually because I
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  Speaker 1: want to be getting our house together in Rhode Island.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, he's not going to have a problem. He's
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  Speaker 1: gonna My mom literally has turned one of the guest
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  Speaker 1: rooms in this house into a baby room. We do
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  Speaker 1: have to put that together, but like it's not like
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna like decorate it, you know what I mean. Like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna like it's gonna be a functional baby
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  Speaker 1: room instead of like a you know, the cute see
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  Speaker 1: one that I'll take lots of pictures in. I thought
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  Speaker 1: nesting was always like I've always envisioned nesting being like
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  Speaker 1: you lay all the blankets and pillows down and you
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  Speaker 1: just lay there, Like, wait a second. I like your
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  Speaker 1: version way better than the real one. Yeah, I really
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  Speaker 1: thought that was what that was. I thought you just
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  Speaker 1: like relaxed and hung out and let people take care
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  Speaker 1: of you for the next two months because you're about
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  Speaker 1: to have a baby. I thought that, I that is
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  Speaker 1: what I'm doing. I'm doing the Ben Higgins version of nesting.
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  Speaker 1: I like the way that you like visualize an actual
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  Speaker 1: nest too, Like it's you know, sitting on really comfy things.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's hilarious. I love that. No, it's usually when
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  Speaker 1: women like a month before have this crazy urge to
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  Speaker 1: like organize the house. Do you want to know something
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  Speaker 1: that I have a crazy urge for that I haven't
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  Speaker 1: shared anywhere, but like, hey, we have some a few
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  Speaker 1: minutes here. Okay, this is a pregnancy craving and it's
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  Speaker 1: so wrong. It's so bad. Oh, I'm down for the bad.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go hash, come home. I don't know how weird
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna get here, but I'm bad. We're gonna get
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  Speaker 1: so weird. But apparently it's like not weird because I
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  Speaker 1: ped it up. I have like I think it's called pica,
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  Speaker 1: and I want to eat cleaning products, Like I have
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  Speaker 1: a strong desire to eat cleaning products. Of course I'm
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  Speaker 1: not going to, but there's something will they say it
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  Speaker 1: could be an iron deficiency. Um, It's very common and
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  Speaker 1: pregnant women to want to eat cleaning products and other
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  Speaker 1: unedible things. I'm going to bring up to my doctor
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  Speaker 1: on Wednesday and just be like, hey, should we test
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  Speaker 1: my blood for not even deficiency? Um? Yeah, I know
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  Speaker 1: this is super weird, you know, like on my strange addiction,
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  Speaker 1: people like I want to eat detergent stuff. I've always
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  Speaker 1: wanted to eat powder laundry detergent, and I always have
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  Speaker 1: wanted to eat like chlorine tablets for the pool. But
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  Speaker 1: right now, like even like my facial exfoliant, which is
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  Speaker 1: like it feels like the texture of like a yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like it's like a baking soda text or I'm just like,
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  Speaker 1: don't do it, don't put in your mouth. Did I
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  Speaker 1: want to so bad? And then like every time like
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  Speaker 1: a like comment for the bathroom if you like that
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  Speaker 1: kind of texture and smell. Oh, it's just overwhelmingly delicious
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  Speaker 1: seeming right now, How weird is that? Yeah? I mean
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  Speaker 1: if you I mean, if you told me this any
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  Speaker 1: other time of your life, I'd be like, actually, like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I love you. You You gotta go get checked out. You're crazy.
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  Speaker 1: But this is I mean, at this point, roll with it.
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  Speaker 1: Just don't eat it, but roll with it. Okay, speaking
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  Speaker 1: off anything weird that you can compare this with. No, no,
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  Speaker 1: I've never been pregnant, but speaking of weird things. Right
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  Speaker 1: before the listeners came on, we were talking about this
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  Speaker 1: reality star who has now retired from selling her jars
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  Speaker 1: of farts. She made upwards of two dollars. Oh m G.
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  Speaker 1: No I knew about the story, did not know how
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  Speaker 1: much she she made. Oh yeah, and she made two
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  Speaker 1: thousand dollars. I think it was in two weeks or
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  Speaker 1: four weeks or something crazy. You know, I've always questioned, uh,
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  Speaker 1: kind of where and how and what to monetize after
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  Speaker 1: this show. I've always been one that said, Okay, I
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  Speaker 1: will do some things. I won't do other things. But
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  Speaker 1: making money from the show is a very good gift.
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  Speaker 1: You cannot say no to everything. And there's moments, especially
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  Speaker 1: in my lowest points, where I go, wow, some people
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  Speaker 1: are just doing it so much better than me. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if that's true. I have no clue how
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  Speaker 1: much they're making. I have no clue what their lifestyle is,
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  Speaker 1: but I think it. This was not one of those moments. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: I never once thought this, but I do have, since
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  Speaker 1: we are admitting weird things. When I was an eight
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  Speaker 1: year old boy, I did the same thing as her.
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  Speaker 1: I farted in a jar and I kept it for
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  Speaker 1: days and it lasts. Um, I didn't sell it. I
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  Speaker 1: never I didn't have a market for that. But now, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: go ahead. Were you open about this, like when you
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  Speaker 1: decided to fire in the jar? Um one? Did you
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  Speaker 1: have pants on when you did this or was it
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  Speaker 1: like real? No, you like, go for it. I mean
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  Speaker 1: I was probably seven or eight. I'm sure my parents
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  Speaker 1: knew about it. I'm sure they're just like this is
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  Speaker 1: this kid is either gonna not be anything good at
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  Speaker 1: all or he's just being weird and he's going to
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  Speaker 1: be a weird child. Yeah, this is the only child
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  Speaker 1: stuff right, You're getting a good look at it. Um.
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  Speaker 1: I never thought about this at when I was the Bachelor.
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  Speaker 1: This was not something that came to my mind. But
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  Speaker 1: could you imagine how much you would have made because
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  Speaker 1: she's from She's from Naty Day Fiance? Yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 1: the Day Fiance does well, but like the ratings that
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  Speaker 1: your season of the Bachelor had so many more, millions
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  Speaker 1: of people knew who you were, and like, wow, you
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  Speaker 1: could have made a million dollars off farts in two weeks.
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  Speaker 1: This is why sometimes I lay in bedded night and
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  Speaker 1: I questioned the decisions I've made leading up to this point.
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  Speaker 1: This might be one of those tonight where I go,
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  Speaker 1: if only, if only? Well wait, no, I'm sorry, I
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  Speaker 1: know you want to move on, but now I have
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  Speaker 1: to ask you did you Have you ever gotten any
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  Speaker 1: weird requests like that, like through cameo because you're very
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  Speaker 1: popular on cameo. Jared one time got a request for
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  Speaker 1: his feet to be shown for this girl's birthday and
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  Speaker 1: we couldn't do it. We just know. And um, the
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  Speaker 1: woman who requested was actually a little bit annoyed that
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  Speaker 1: we didn't let her know earlier that we were not
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  Speaker 1: going to show his feet. I've gotten a couple of
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  Speaker 1: feet one I choose to do those. Um, I'm not kidding,
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  Speaker 1: I do I choose to do. I'm like at this point,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what's the harm and the and I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if they want to see my feet, they can see
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  Speaker 1: my feet. How do you go about it? You say
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  Speaker 1: hello with your face and then you turned the camera.
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  Speaker 1: Faces never shown. I do a little I move defeat
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  Speaker 1: left and right, do a little toe wiggle. I've got
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  Speaker 1: long toes. I can move them kind of like fingers.
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  Speaker 1: I mean say, I'm crossing boundaries for me. I I've
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  Speaker 1: questioned this for a while and I said, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: go for If they want to pay me a hundred
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  Speaker 1: bucks to show my feet, I'll show my feet. Next step,
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  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen of Ben Higgins foot model on only fans.
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  Speaker 1: It's coming. Oh, life takes a turn, you know how
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  Speaker 1: some people say it looks like Ben's hit rock bottom. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure they'll be saying that soon. Hey, we got
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  Speaker 1: a big episode for you today. Connor Saley is here
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  Speaker 1: to break down this episode of the Bachelor. Yes, it's
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  Speaker 1: Clayton's second episode. We're enjoying it so far. We're here.
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  Speaker 1: We will hear if Connor is as well when we
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  Speaker 1: come back with the almost famous podcast. All right, guys,
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  Speaker 1: we have Connor Saley on the phone. He is going
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  Speaker 1: to be recapping this episode of Clayton's season with us. Um.
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  Speaker 1: He's also going to be joining us for an in
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  Speaker 1: depth like Ben mentioned earlier. Right now, we want to
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  Speaker 1: talk about you know, this episode episode two, Connor, You
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  Speaker 1: guys with Hannah's season, we're the last season of guys
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  Speaker 1: to live in the Bachelor mansion. Yeah, I know it
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  Speaker 1: is it's crazy to think about that, but it's it's
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  Speaker 1: good to see everyone back in there. It's been a while. True,
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  Speaker 1: that's none ease that Yeah, did wait didn't didn't Peter's
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  Speaker 1: I think Peter season. Gona know. Yeah, but you were
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  Speaker 1: the last Bachelorte season, last bachelort season, I got last
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  Speaker 1: group of guys. It is it is crazy, that is
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  Speaker 1: super crazy. I didn't even realize that. Yeah, I only
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  Speaker 1: bring that up it's because one of the first scenes
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  Speaker 1: of this episode is the girls walking to the mansion
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  Speaker 1: like geeking out, And for some reason, this like was
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  Speaker 1: real awkward for me because I know that they were
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  Speaker 1: trying to encapsulate the excitement of moving back into the
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  Speaker 1: mansion and like where we're shooting here again. Yeah, but
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  Speaker 1: it was so weird because like the girls were there
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  Speaker 1: the night before. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that is a weird scene.
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  Speaker 1: I guess what a lot of people don't realize is
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  Speaker 1: you like go back to your hotel after and then
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  Speaker 1: you like fully move in a day later. So it
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  Speaker 1: is a little weird. It was cool watching it, I guess,
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  Speaker 1: like a little nostalgic because I remember there was a
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  Speaker 1: scene they're like screaming out of the balcony and I
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  Speaker 1: was like, that was my room. Yeah, yeah, I got
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  Speaker 1: a question for you too. There is a moment where
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  Speaker 1: somebody said this mansion is iconic in historicious but also accurate. Well,
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  Speaker 1: how do you how do you uh put something in
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  Speaker 1: the historic category because I believe this mansion was built
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  Speaker 1: in the early two thousand's, it hasn't been the Bachelor
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  Speaker 1: mansion for the entirety of the Bachelor like seasons. I
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  Speaker 1: was like, well, iconic, yes, historic maybe not yeah, not
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  Speaker 1: not so much. It's like a nice new house kind
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  Speaker 1: of like it's pretty nice. Yeah, definitely not not not historic,
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  Speaker 1: but very very iconic. You know. I do love the house.
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  Speaker 1: It brings me so much nostalgia. And it's weird because
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  Speaker 1: we only shot in it for like ten days, and
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  Speaker 1: with Chris soul season, we spent four shooting weeks there.
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  Speaker 1: You know, four episodes were there, and that's longer than most.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, I guess it's where all like the
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  Speaker 1: first feelings started to develop. It felt like a big
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  Speaker 1: frat house. Yeah, nobody knows this, but like I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if we've ever talked about this podcast, Connor, you
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  Speaker 1: gotta tell me if you had this go down on
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  Speaker 1: your Bachelor that season. But there's there's not many like
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  Speaker 1: bathrooms at that mansion. I mean, especially from the amount
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  Speaker 1: of guys that are there initially, and at some point
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  Speaker 1: there are signs that were put up, like as you
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  Speaker 1: walked in the bath and they said, please don't do
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  Speaker 1: anything that cloggs the drains. Did that happen in your season?
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  Speaker 1: I'm pretty pretty sure it did happen. I think we
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  Speaker 1: had a couple of clock toilets on there. Yeah. I
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  Speaker 1: will probably contributed to that too. And you know it's
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  Speaker 1: not just boys. We had clocked toilets too. They were
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  Speaker 1: clogged all the time. I just don't think the water
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  Speaker 1: pressure is very good in those toilets. Yeah, I think that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you either of you were in
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  Speaker 1: that big room that has I think there were maybe
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  Speaker 1: like fifteen of us in there, ten to fifteen of us,
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  Speaker 1: and there's only one bathroom for that room, So that
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  Speaker 1: one always had an issue with the plumbing, just because
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  Speaker 1: so many people are using that. I used to always
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  Speaker 1: do my private stuff downstairs because there was only, like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, one room, and you could lock the door
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  Speaker 1: and you didn't have to worry about somebody like walking
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  Speaker 1: in and trying to do their makeup or something while
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  Speaker 1: you were doing something else. Anyway, Okay, so the girls
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  Speaker 1: come in. It's a little bit funny. Uh. Jesse brings
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  Speaker 1: in a date card. This one is for Teddy and
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  Speaker 1: see Molina, Gabby, Kira, Mara, Sierra, Genevieve, Serene and Cassidy
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  Speaker 1: and the card reads, this is what dreams are made
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  Speaker 1: of and that is pretty that's a pretty cool hint
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  Speaker 1: that Hillary Duff is going to be on this group date.
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  Speaker 1: So I didn't even put that together. Hey now, hey, now,
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  Speaker 1: very cool dreams. I mean, such a good movie, such
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  Speaker 1: a good movie, good song. It's like, don't sing it
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  Speaker 1: because it's gonna be stuck in my head for weeks
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  Speaker 1: and weeks. Now, um, so this is like up there
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to special celebrity guests, Like we had
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  Speaker 1: Mila Kuna as a national culture which is probably the
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  Speaker 1: top tier we'll ever get, and now Hillary Duff it's
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  Speaker 1: a pretty big deal. Yeah, No, Hillary Duff is. She's
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  Speaker 1: a big time for sure. She looks so hot, she
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  Speaker 1: looks so good. I have not seen her in a lot.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if she's been in any movies or anything.
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  Speaker 1: In a wild I feel like I haven't seen her
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  Speaker 1: in a very long time. So it was it was
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  Speaker 1: kind of cool though, see her again. Well, she has
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  Speaker 1: basically this thing set up in the backyard where the
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  Speaker 1: girls are going to have to put together a kid's
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  Speaker 1: party or like dollhouses or something like that. Actually, I
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  Speaker 1: don't even know if it was very clear what the
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  Speaker 1: objective was, but they had to like entertain they had
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  Speaker 1: to build things to entertain children, and it was put
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  Speaker 1: together the party for all the kids. Yeah right, Um,
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  Speaker 1: it was very weird. When I was one girl, I
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  Speaker 1: don't remember which one it was sees the kids. No, No,
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  Speaker 1: sees the kids, and she goes, oh my god, I
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  Speaker 1: love children. Yeah that's that. I wonder when anybody else.
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna say it because I was like, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know how to feel about it. But when that happened,
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  Speaker 1: that gave me a little He was like, yeah, I've
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  Speaker 1: been cool. I love children. So weird. It was reminded
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  Speaker 1: me of like Sarah Dusica Parker and Hookus Pokus and
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  Speaker 1: she's like, boys, like I love children. You know, it's
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  Speaker 1: like you want to eat them or something. Well, we
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  Speaker 1: didn't go that far here anyway. Cassidy is the one
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  Speaker 1: that really dominates this date because she keeps pulling Clayton aside,
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  Speaker 1: trying to get one on one time with him. She's
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  Speaker 1: quite successful at it. She like basically has two big
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  Speaker 1: makeout sessions with him while the other girls are doing
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  Speaker 1: their tasks. I don't really remember anybody else having any
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  Speaker 1: significant time with him during this activity part. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think anybody did to be honest or at least that
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  Speaker 1: we saw um. But I don't know. I feel like
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  Speaker 1: it's a weird It's a weird balancing act you have
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  Speaker 1: to do if you're one of the contestants. I guess
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  Speaker 1: it's like, obviously you want to spend time, but you
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  Speaker 1: want to get along with everybody else and kind of
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  Speaker 1: like pull your weight in the tasks a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm a little unsure of how I felt about that.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like she maybe one a little bit over
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: I was trying to pull him a little overboard. But
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: I'd also say like, nothing about it really bothered me.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: I was like, she's really aggressive. We'll see how he
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: responds to this. I wouldn't call her actions villainous, ben
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't say villainous. That would not be how I
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: categorized it. But and I could be different here, But
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: I watched a show, and I think it's just my personality.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: I'm I would be more attracted to somebody that followed
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: the rules. So if I knew that somebody pulled me
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: aside while other people were like carrying the weight of
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: setting up this party, that would be unattractive for me.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: I would be like, hey, go back and do that.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: We're gonna have our time later to talk. So it's
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: not villainous. It just h it. I don't like it,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: like and that just might be me. I just don't
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: find it um attractive. Yeah, well, look at how Michelle
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: responded in a similar situation last season when guys weren't
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: coming up to her during that part of the group date.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: She got really offended. But nobody was working during that
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: group day, like that was like a fun play time.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: It's it's these dates that people are like, you know,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: picking up stuff for optical courses or stuff like that,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: and they're like, hey, go do that, have fun with
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: that and then come back. Because this isn't a good
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: look for anybody. But that just could be me. I'm
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: not saying it's the right or wrong thing. I just
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't like it. Kind of would you like it? No,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: I don't think I would have. I mean the way
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: I would have foreseen if I was the bachround that
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: date kind of like popping around to all the different
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: stations being set up and everything and seeing the kind
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: of the woman in action, like helping out and maybe
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: help them out to get to know them a little bit.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: But I feel like her continually pulling him kind of
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: took away from his experience from getting to know other
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: people too. So yeah, probably a little bit frustrating for him,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: even though it seemed like he liked it. Though. I
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: do think this and and Connor before you came on,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: we're talking. Hey, we had our questions about Clayton as
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor now because he's a bad dude. But just
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: like anybody had questions about him, Like, we don't know him.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: He definitely was not a fan favorite, so we have
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: a ton of questions about him. I do think maybe
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: one critique of him so far is as soon as
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: there's options to kiss, uh, he's gonna start kissing, Like
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: there's no like, whenever conversations get to a certain point,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: there's like a tipping point. You know, maybe he doesn't
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: have a follow up question or he's put an uncomfortable situation,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: he just starts kissing, which works because you know, I mean,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: it's kind of what the show is known for. But
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: I do I do think he's just gonna, like if
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: anybody wants to kis him. I think he's just down
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: to make out. Yeah, I feel like you kind of
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: saw that. I mean, we'll probably talked about it later,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: but as the episode went on, it seems like opportunities
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: arose for that even more, and he definitely did Yeah
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: that's just okay. Is this like a girl versus guy thing?
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Like I would never if things got awkward and I
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: didn't know what to say and I wasn't like super
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: attractive or like really into someone, I wouldn't be like, Okay,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: well now here's the now, I'm just gonna kiss him.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: I'd be like, all right, well, time's up? Is this?
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: But like with guys, is it like just like you
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: know what kissing is fun? I'll do it with anyone.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like, at least when I
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: was on When I was on there, I feel like
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: you would just be so focused and like dialed in
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: in a way of like wanting to kiss the person
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: that they would be talking and then I would like
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: totally forget what they were talking about, and you just
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: say like yeah, yeah, and then you end up just
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: starting to kiss. So it wasn't like the conversations died down.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: I feel like it was almost intentionally died down in
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: order to kiss. Okay, especially as time goes on, Like
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: as time goes on, you get what ten or fifteen
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: minutes with this person, it's probably the only time we're
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: gonna see him all week. If you don't kiss him,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: you're not going to kiss him for like ten days
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: or whatever. And you're like, I'm supposed to be dating
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: this human, but so yeah, I get it. Like as
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: time goes on, you start kisse. And I just think
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Colton or Clayton jumped out of the gate very fast,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: like he's just like, let's you know, let's let's just
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: start kissing night one. And I mean it seems like
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: it's working okay. And it's also kind of hilarious and
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: worth mentioning that Cassidy says she tries to avoid times
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: with She said she she tries to spend us a
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: little time around kids as possible. She basically says, that's
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: the kid's face, which I think is kind of hilariously honest. Yeah. Yeah,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: you can't get mad with somebody for being honest. No, true,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: I thought it was so funny. I mean, obviously sad
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: when she dropped the cake though, yeah that hurts, and
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: I forget who made the cake, but that that girl
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: was pissed. You can't so like people ask you know.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: I'm sure we've all got it, but like, hey, how
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: fake is this show? How much of it is produced?
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: It's like, hey, think it's a show, so like you
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: have to understand that, Like the producers know what they're doing.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: That's one of those moments of the producers are sitting
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: back and they're like, oh, this is gold. Like we
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: could have planned this. We couldn't fake this, we could
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: have make this is this is perfect. The villain of
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: the day brings the cake out and drops it home run. Yeah,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: that that situation played out perfectly for TV for sure.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: All right, let's give forward to the nighttime portion. I
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: think the most the most standout for me in this
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: was Serene, who is a teacher. She said she loved
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: being around the kids and playing um. She said that,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: like her intention wasn't going into teaching, but that's how
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: things evolved for her. And it wasn't like she said
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: anything significant that made me be like, oh, well, this
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: girl is awesome. But I did feel like he was
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: the most into her, and he said something along the
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: lines of like there's something we haven't done together and
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: that is kissed, So can I do it? Yeah? I
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: liked her a lot too. I felt like their conversation
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: the nighttime part, it just it felt like there was
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: more of a connection there than the other woman that
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: we had seen time with him. So I I thought
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: she was kind of the stand out that date, at
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: least in the nighttime part for me, But really we
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: didn't really get to see much of anyone else. Now.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: The only other thing I can remember really is Teddy
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: saying to Clayton that it was emotional for her to
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: see him with other girls after getting the first impression Rose,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: and that she's going to need like a lot of
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: words of affirmation. She's going to need to be like secured.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: She's going to need to like to be told a
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: lot throughout this journey that he still likes her. That's
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: a big moment. I'd be shocked if Teddy isn't in
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: the final two. I mean, I also go that far now.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: I just think out of all many recent seasons, she's
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: one of those cast members that stand out in so
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: many different ways. I also thought this was a great
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: time for Clayton and he did a tremendous job at
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: it when she said that, and you know he's into
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: her very obvious. He takes that moment, and he says,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: I will reassure you, like I will make sure you
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: know how like much I want you here so now
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: And this is hard on this show, but like now
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: it opens up the space for them to have those
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: conversations where like sometimes you like, I don't know how
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: they feel about me, I don't know if he likes me,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: if she likes me. Now I think like they're gonna
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: be able to progress because they're gonna be able to
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: start saying like, I'm really is glad you're still here.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: I missed you, And she's gonna know he means it,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: and he's gonna know she means it. That's why I
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: think they have such a powerful, powerful story ahead of him. Yeah, Ben,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: having so having been the Bachelor before, I guess this
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: first week of dates, how big were those for you
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: in terms of like you obviously had the first impressions
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: from the first row ceremony, but like actually having conversations
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: where like after that first week of dates where you're like, Okay,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: these are you know, there's a handful of people I
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: could really see this with. Did you kind of have
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: that like solidified in your head or not, like a
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: group of people, but I'd say there's like i'd say,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: the first impressions, I'm I really I think I have
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: always been very impacted by first impressions, and so i'd
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: say there's like two or three women after the first
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: night and the first week, I mean, I kind of
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: went it at it with a different strategy. I was
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: trying to identify the ones that were like loose cannons first.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: So like I was always gonna look out for, like
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: what signs are here that, like, this person doesn't get
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: along with others, this person is like pulling me away
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: all the time, knowing that like this is a huge, huge,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: like group of people still, and so I was mostly
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: whittling it down from the back to the front, I
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: felt like. And then there was like two or three
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: after the first week that I remember going, I think
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: you're gonna be here a while and and and in
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: fact a lot of them were there for a long
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: time because of their like mostly their behavior around other
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: people and on group dates. Group dates are a great
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: time to see like, honestly, who are the producers are
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: paying the most attention to, who seems to be asking
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: for the most attention, who's arguing with those who's the
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: one tattle telling on everybody, like you can really start
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: to see that, you know, week one mm hmm, super interesting,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Um that you would look out for who's interacting with
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: producers the most. So now we get to the group
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: date Rose and Cassidy gets it because she was the
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: one who made the most effort he said, and getting
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: to know him, and he likes that she's like putting
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: off that confident, semi aggressive vibe. I remember this. You know,
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: he'll learn a lot watching the show back for us
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: his viewers. We're watching this and going she was pulling
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: him all the time, she made all these girls upset,
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: like you know, she did all this. He doesn't see
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: half of that. I mean, honestly, he doesn't even know
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: half of that's going on. All he sees is this
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: girl that's like very into him, pulling him away, coming
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: to talk to him, like reassuring him. He doesn't know
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: right now of the drama really going on behind the scenes.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: And so I'm not shocked she got the first impression Rose,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: because out of all this day, out of this whole
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: date or group date, Rose, Um, out of this date,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: I think he she did she stepped up. Now, I
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: don't think it's a good long term strategy. I don't
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: see this lasting for a while, but at this point,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: I think he just recognized she's into me. She made
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: an effort, and I need to reward that at some level,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: not knowing the consequences behind the scenes, Yeah, i'd agree
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: with that, and I feel like for him to, I mean,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: he hasn't been in this situation before. He you know,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: wasn't didn't go that far in Michelle season, and he
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: went pretty far, but I wasn't there at the very end.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: So he's been kind of thrown into this. And i'd
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: imagine on the first date of the whole experience, you're
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: probably looking for, you know, someone who's really you know,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: giving a lot of validation and reassurance. And so she
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: definitely did that. And so as a viewer, you're right,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: it's like, why why in the world did he give
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: that to her? But I can understand why he did.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: It makes sense. So Susie has the one on one
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: day and they go on a helicopter ride. She seems
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: she says she's nervous, but she seems very in her element,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: like she seems pretty comfortable, very excited, very positive to
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: things that he's really into They land on an amazing yacht.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: They get to like hang out in the water and
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: just lounge on the boat for a while. You can
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: tell he's so into her. I think she's into him.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: But I think there's definitely an imbalanced there. I don't
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: know if you guys picked that up, Yeah you did.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. I just don't. I
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: just don't see it with them. I think there's a
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: just like, obviously, she's like a very attractive girl. She
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: has that like bubbly personality, which I think is super attractive.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: You know. I'm sure Colton finds it that way, but
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: I did the same thing. Man. It's it's it's just
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: part of it. I think this year. Yeah, um, but
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: I feel like I just don't think she's as into him,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: to be honest, I really don't. That's interesting. I mean
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: we kind of got that hint right when. I mean,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: if I remember, right when she left in the day,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: one of the other girls was saying that she just
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: didn't seem that excited, uh, And she broached that with
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Clayton right away. She said, Hey, I'm super nervous. I'm
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: excited to be here with you, but I'm just super nervous. However,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: um yeah, I think when this date ended, even I
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: have a feeling this girl is going to break Clayton's heart.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: He's gonna be really into her, and at some point
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: I believe later on she's gonna probably step away and
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be one of those moments that we see
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: him right, I think she. I think I just get
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: that sense right now that that could turn. Right. We've
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: seen this turn and connections build. But I'm with you too,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: I just didn't feel it on her side to you know,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: for him, she's going to be somebody that breaks his heart. Yeah.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: I do see her going very far though, too, And honestly,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. Maybe it's because she
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: looks very similar to Hannah Brown. Yeah she does. There
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: were a lot of times I saw I was like,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: wait is that? But I could almost see her as
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: like the next Bachelaratte. I feel like she kind of
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: has that like you know, I don't know, there's something
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: he has that presence. It definitely does. Um yeah, we'll see.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: I mean I feel like every time like he would
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: go in for a kiss, it was like she was like, Okay,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: so let's see how it evolves. All right. Next up,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: we have the second group date where we do get
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: I think truly villainous behavior from Chee. We're just gonna
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: call uh. So she definitely targets this girl Elizabeth for
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: absolutely no reason. So they walk into this barn. There's
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: a comedian at the desk set up like a classroom,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: and she and she she's telling them that they're going
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: to play a game of Uh. Never have I ever
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: was just actually like, I think really fun and well
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: I was terrified of this game in my mid twenties
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: when people would be like people would be like, never
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: have I ever like done something great, like, you know,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: something sexual, right, And I would just be like, I
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: want to avoid this game at every single in every
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: single way. Oh yeah, I know, right, Oh my god,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: but it was so awkward. Um. Now I think it'd
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: be so much fun to play, and I think it
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: gets you to know people well, So I'm like really
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: down for this. Um And then this schirl Elizabeth seems
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: very nice. She sits down next to Clayton and it's
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: like can I sit here? And He's like yeah, and
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: and it's really annoys to the point where she like
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: makes her her villa like makes her the target for
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: the rest of the day. Um, they're like sort of learning,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: I guess, because like they're sitting next to each other.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: But there wasn't some crazy chemistry. If I was she inanee,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be like, oh my god, threat alert, threat alert.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: But she definitely feels So I just want to go
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: on record because last week I said I have a
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: feeling the sane girl is gonna be a villain. I
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: just get to get the feeling. I I just I
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: just want to put it out there. If I have
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: one skill set in life, it's being an expert at
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor. So I think before too, they showed a
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: scene of I think it was Cassidy and talking, and
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like casting may have like
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: planted the idea that she should just like go for it,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: keep pulling him all of that stuff, and then I
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: feel like she wasn't able to do that, and then
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: she just like went on this rampage of you know,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: just being like piste off about it. Can you guys
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: remind me in recent memory, has there ever been the
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: two like biggest villains in quotes um team up on
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: this show? I mean I feel like they're like a
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: tag team right now, like ones pouring in the other
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: being like, don't let this person win, watch out for
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: the front runner, like cut him off at the knees,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: Like I've never I don't remember the villains, Like, yeah,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: it was like j J and Nclint. So that was
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: the last time they did this. Yeah, it didn't work
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: out well for him either. Okay, yeah, villain's got a
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: vill Well these two are trying to vill and uh,
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: it just I don't know. In my opinion, Shene has
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: so much on Cassidy as far as the villain goes. Um,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: but we fast forward, Yeah, let's let's fast forward to
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: the nighttime portion because the obstacle course didn't really do much.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: Um as far as the building connections, Um, we see
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: that cast that that um, Shene just it just goes
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: right after Elizabeth and says that she's to to face
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: bitch for just no reason to Clayton, and I'm just like,
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: where is she pulling this out of? She ends up
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: um having a little like one on one time with Elizabeth,
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: and she says, there was that conversation we were having
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: back at the house and you just didn't seem to
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: be engaged with me. It was like you were ignoring
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: me straight to my face. And then Elizabeth explains that
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: she's a d h D, which means that she has
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: a hard time focusing on two things at once, so
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: she might be zoned in on one person's conversation and
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: have to block out the other. She says, she's so
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: sorry if that's kind of what happened, but it seems
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: very genuine, and that is that is truly a possibility. Yeah, no, no,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: hundred percent. And that was like such a weird conversation
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: at the end too, because they like hugged and made up,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: but they definitely didn't make up the whole thing. But Ben, Ben,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: I'm curious because you said, like a red flag for
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: you was um, people like not getting along in the
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: house and stuff like that. So I guess if this
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: has brought to your attention. And there's always someone every
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: season that's like telling the Bachelor the Bachelorette, like the
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: issues that are going on in a way, like tattling
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: for whatever, Like how how would you sort through that
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: whole situation? I mean, I think it's pretty obvious when
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: you're in it too. You know who's coming to protect
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: you or like a lot of people wouldn't tell you
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: for the sake of they don't want to involve involve
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: themselves in the drama. They don't feel like it's really
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: their role to bring it to your attention. I had
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: it happened once during my season where somebody brought brought
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: it up to me, and I could tell that they're
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: coming from a place of I just need you to
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: know this is happening behind the scenes, and that was
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: my own fault. So this happened in the Bahamas. The
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: one of the girls came to me and said, the
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: girls are starting to get really upset because you seem
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: to only be paying attention to a few select women.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: And I said, thank you for telling me, because that
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: wasn't my hope. It wasn't how I want to operate.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: But I can see that now that was good. Like
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: I could tell they cared if it was this girl
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: is doing this and this girl is doing this. I
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: I just don't need you to tell me that as
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor. It's not you guys need to figure it
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: out your adults. Ultimately here, I'm looking for my wife
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: ultimately here, Like my hope is that this leads to
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: something like really special, and I would hope my wife
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: is pretty good at conflict resolution and is pretty good
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: at getting along with others, and so, you know, stuff
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: like this would have been definitely a red flag for
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: me because I just would have I mean, I think
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: I would have taken a step back and been like this, well,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: as great as maybe you even are, this isn't gonna
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: work because this feels like we're back in middle school
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: and I'm not looking for a middle school date right now.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: In the tattle tale situation, that was, yeah, the tattle
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: tale situation, and then also the kind of the follow
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: up to it, uh, you know, not even Elizabeth. Elizabeth
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: was I think thrown off and confused. I wasn't. I
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: didn't have I wouldn't maybe see it that way with her.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: I think just shene being just so angry at this
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: and all the other girls. If you could have like
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: looked around, like what I would have done if I
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: was Clayton Now, I don't know if I would have,
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: because hindsight, what I think he could have done in
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: that moment is asked the girls do you feel the
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: same way in that group setting? And make them respond then,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: because I think that he would have seen. No, this
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: is an Elizabeth problem. This is it was a total
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: newbie move, like it was definitely out of not having
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: a lot of experience in the first season. I feel like, yeah, well,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: I mean and also I just don't understand kind of
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: you could maybe speak into this. It always shocks me.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: But China right now is saying that she is here
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: for Clayton, so we gotta believe it. We don't. We
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: can't assume anything else. So she's obviously wanted to be
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: with Clayton. So the strategy she takes is to be
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: the one that takes out everybody else. That strategy has
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: never worked in any dating relationship of any kind, So
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: why do they resort to that? Like who what person goes?
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: Especially on this show with most people now who are
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: on the show have seen a previous season. They go,
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: this is what I'm gonna how I'm gonna win Clayton.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: I'm going to make sure that everybody else looks bad
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: and I will be standing at the end. Like that
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: just doesn't work, right, Yeah, No, I mean that never
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: literally never works. That person always just ends up being
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: the villain. Um. But I feel like it is an
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: intimidating environment walking into a room. At least on our season,
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: thirty dudes that are all like, you know, good lucking,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: doing a lot of cool stuff in their lives. Is big, strong,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: Paul whatever. And so you know, I think some people
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: you kind of go into more of like a defensive
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: mode and try and just like knock people down. And
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: it's like that's what she's doing almost just like knocking
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: people off until she's going on left standing. Well, there
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: are two moments we really have to talk about before
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: we wrap the recap portion of this up. One when
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: Elizabeth and Sheeny face each other again at the cocktail
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: party and really becomes a villain, like this is her,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: this is mean stuff. She's like, she's like, she has
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: a d D. You know, she has a d D.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: That's something that little kids have. The fact that she
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: kept bringing that up over and over again and and
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: totally making it seem like it was like an excuse
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: that Elizabeth came up with was outrageous. Well, and she
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: didn't she tell everybody to um, yeah, it's not really
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: her her thing to tell everyone right out of pocket
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: of her, but her to make it a joke. Yeah,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: it was crazy. Then there is Cassidy and she gets
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: called out, rat it out um that she has a
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: friends with benefits for the past couple of years at home,
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: and he's all like, well, when you come back from
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: this show, let's watch it together and hook up. This
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: is not a villainous move. Again, the stop trying to
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: make Cassie a villain of friends with benefits at home.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: If that was ever going to turn into something that
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: could have turned, that would have turned into a relationship.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: At this point, everyone has someone that they're texting or
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: something mild at home. You're attractive twentysomething, are you guys
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: telling me that you didn't have one person that you
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: would like maybe casually go on a date with when
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: you were on the Bachelor. I So I'm a little
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: torn with this one too, because I feel like it
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: depends on the intent. If she if she was like
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: going on the show just to go on and had
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: this friends benefits at home after that she was like
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: planning to come home too, then I feel like that's
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: not I don't know if I really vibe with that.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: But if she had a friends with benefits before and
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: then it was like all in and like all right,
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna see if, like Clayton, if I could, you know,
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: if I'm his person, if we should be together, then
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: I think it's different. But if if she went in
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: with the intent of like just leaving at some point
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: and like, oh, I don't think that's what it was
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: at all. I feel like this is just some guy
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: that she hooks up with casually at home. She has
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: no intention. Weren't they weren't they messaging like in the
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: hotel right up to the end, or that face until
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: the end, and he was saying, come back and watch
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: this with me. And I mean, I know if I
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: was Clayton and I ended up with Cassidy and I
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: get off the show and this guy is texting her
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: and he's and I'm like, well, who is this? And
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: she tells me, oh, this is the guy I was
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: dating and talking to. And I said, well, up to
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: win and she goes the night before the show, I
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be thrilled, like I would not be. Maybe I'm
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: making it seems maybe it's less casual than I'm making
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: it seem in my head because I'm thinking, like if
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: they end up together, oh, she's she'll never even respond
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: to this guy because it won't even be like a
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: thing because they were nothing. Maybe not. We just don't
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: know that, I'm saying at this point with what we know,
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: I don't I wouldn't love it like it wouldn't be
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: a thing. I would. I don't think it's a great move.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's a deal breaker. I'm not saying
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: if he finds out, she should be like on the
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: first flight home. But this is just not a jet situation,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. According to Jet, it is you're right.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: I guess you're right. So so wait, so so Cassidy
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: already has a rose then I think at the preview,
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: Clayton asked Jesse if anyone's ever taken a rose back? Yeah,
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: you do you think he's going to take the rose back? Yeah?
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: I do. I think she's going to get eliminated, Yeah,
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: Or do you think he's gonna I think he's gonna
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: take it back. But and then I think one at
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: the rose ceremony, that's a possibility to Yeah. I do
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: believe there has been some roses taken back in the history.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: I can't remember. I just remember something happening like that.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: It's definitely not the first time I just don't remember
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: the last time I didn't Jesse give someone a rose
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: he wasn't supposed to give. Yeah, Jesse Palmer was, Yeah.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: It's famous for calling the wrong name and looking at
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: the girl and being like sorry. She starts walking. He's like, sorry,
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: you had to turnaround and walk back back, didn't. I
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: think he still gave her a rose, so did he she.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: I think she ended up staying for a little bit too.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know. That was the start of his hosting
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: career right there. That was it. He knew at that moment,
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be back here one day and leading this thing.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: You guys, I really hope I'm not like the odd
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: one out in like defending Cassidy here with this friends
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: with Benefits situation. I guess I going onto the show
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: was just like, is there somebody that I will definitely
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: see when I get home if this doesn't work out? Sure,
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: But if I end up being engaged to Crystals, will
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: I ever text him again? No? So I guess I'm
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: just thinking about two personally. You don't there, you go, well,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: it's it's it is also, I mean, kind of the
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: cliffhanger that we leave this episode on. I mean, this
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: is where we're wondering for next week, what's going to happen?
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: We do get a weird um. I don't know if
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: you noticed this, but in the teaser, because I was
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: wondering if you know, would still be around. We see
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: her in the Baywatch dates, so we know now she's
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: here for next week. Is a very clear picture of her.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: We don't see Cassidy in any of the teasers, but
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: that is the cliffhanger, and so we'll take a vote
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: here to close out this episode or this segment with
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: our good friend Connor. Connor, do you believe Cassidy is
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: going home? Yes or no? No? Ashley, do you believe
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: Cassidy is going home? Yes or no? Yes. I think
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: she's gonna go home, and I think she will fill
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: in as primary villain. I am gonna say that this
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: is she carried too big of a role in this
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: episode and there's still too much to be uncovered about
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: her story that I think she stays. I just don't.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: I think her time is limited. I don't think she
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: makes it past the next episode. That's my vote. I
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: have no clue what's happening. Hey, to close this whole
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: thing out on this episode. Connor, what are your thoughts
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: on Clayton so far as the Bachelor? So I'll be
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: I watched the first episode and the second episode back
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: to back, so I kind of seen the whole evolution here.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: I feel like he started out a little rusty, not
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: gonna lie, I was a little dull. I think he
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: can realized that maybe a little bit. But I think
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: at the end of this second episode he kind of
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: warmed up a bit. It seemed like he was more
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: engaged in the conversations and was actually like talking to
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: people versus just trying to kiss them, although he did
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: do that. So I think he's in my opinion, he's
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: he's doing better. Um. I think he's actually you know,
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: engaging with the woman more and um I think as
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: the season goes on more he will keep getting better.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: So I'm honestly I'm excited. I think it's cool that
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: they chose someone that's maybe a little bit more unknown.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: It is cool to kind of get to know that
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: person to a little bit. But I think there's a
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: lot there is a lot still to be learned about Clayton.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: I really don't know anything about him, to be honest, Yeah,
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know if we're ever going to that's the
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: weird part um. Actually you'll know why. But this episode
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: did end with being one of my least favorite episodes
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: I've ever seen, And really I thought the top of
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: the show we just kind of said that we enjoyed it.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: Just I don't even know if you'll be understand why.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: But the very end of this episode ends with a clown.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: The end of the episode was one of your least
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: favorite parts of a clown and that's just inappropriate. It's
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: not needed. It brings out fears and the audience. Are
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: you Are you afraid of clowns massively? I really just
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: hate clowns so much. Oh my gosh. Do you remember
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: when there was like a clown thing a few years ago? Uh,
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: it was like four or five years ago. I was
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: senior in college and like clown They were like clowns
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: are hiding the woods. Yeah yeah, and they even like
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: I was a senior in college, they had to shut
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: down high schools in the area because they were like
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: clowns showing up on campus. No, I'm so afraid of
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: clo I hate clowns so much. There's nothing about him
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: makes sense to me. They should not be around kids.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: They should not be around adults. In fact, I just
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: don't want to exist. Um, I think they're going to
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: stop with our generation guys, Like, I don't think like
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: anybody in our generation is going to hire a clown
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: for our kid's birthday. I want to I don't want
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: to meet that person, if there is one of them.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: H Connor, thanks for joining us. Uh, we're gonna be
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: back with you. Will be sharing an episode. We're gonna
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: do it in depth with you here very soon. Catch
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: up on your life, everything you're up to. But until then,
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: thanks for breaking down this episode with us. Thank you
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: for having me. It's time for Bachelor headlines with our
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: resident expert, Ashley I Connetti. First headline is this and
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: it's a big one. The Bachelor's Claire Crawley and Blake
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Monar get cozy after Dale Moss break up. This corn
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: to eat. Okay, So our producers sent us this headline
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: the other day and I was like, Blake Monar, I
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: was like Blake Moyn's I was like, in my head,
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: I thought that she had sent like a typo, and
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: I was like, I mean, like that could make sense
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: at least like for jealousy purposes for a couple of months,
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: you know, the two of them trying to get flirty.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: But then I click the link and I see it's
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: Blake Monar, And then I click on who Blake Monar
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: is on Instagram. Still can't figure it out, Like this
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: guy looks kind of random and he has twenty followers,
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: and I don't really particularly remember him from anything. And
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: then I find out that he was all in Bachelor
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: and Paradise this season. Yeah, whoops, that Blake, the Blake
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: who went out with Tia. That's what I thought. Yeah,
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: and he was on Claire's season originally. Um. And the
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: two of them hung out and they were looking kind
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: of cozy. Um. They Claire also said something on her
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: Instagram about how like she went somewhere for business wherever
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: they were hanging out, which was Indiana. Said one for
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: business left with the most unexpected, remarkable memories. Indie, you
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: were truly beautiful and exactly what my soul needed. I'm
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: telling you everybody should go Indiana to find love. It
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: is the place my stopping grounds. Actually, don't forget that. Yeah.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: And then somebody was asking about this rumored something something,
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: and Claire said Blake is the sweetest person. He truly is,
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: So let's see what develops from there. It could be
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: really awesome. Love these stories. Yeah, we'll watch this as
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: we go. Well, kind of turning the page a little
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: bit to a whole new chapter. Bachelor in Paradise favorites
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: uh Riley and Marissa. Well, this is the headline. Fans
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: think they've called it quits. This according to screen Ran, Yeah,
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: we also got to text about this from our producer
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: this week. So immediately I went over to Marissa's Instagram,
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: in which I remember her, like from the previous night
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: saying something like she just wanted to like get dolled
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: up for no reason. And I was like, oh, now
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: it makes even more sense because now she wants to
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: look really hot for him on Instagram. Um, the rumor
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: is that they have maybe broken up sometime since Christmas
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: till now because they were hanging They were hanging out,
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: they spent Christmas together. Um, Riley has those pictures up
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: on his Instagram. Marissa no longer has those pictures up
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: on Instagram. The last pictures of her and Riley together
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: are from October on her Instagram. So I do feel
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: like we can read into this a little bit. Um
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: doesn't sound good. It doesn't and that was one of
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: our favorite couples coming out of Paradise. So we hope
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: they can rekindle or remind or if they might be
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: still together and just being quiet for now. But that's
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: the rumor spreading. Well another rumor, uh Bachelor Nations, Blakeman
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: and Love his Blinds Janina Gibelly. I hope I said
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: that right? Are dating this according to E as well? Hey,
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: can we accord it to Ben Higgins as well? Because
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: you're pretty close to Blake. Can you talk to him
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: about this? I am off the record. Come on, I'm
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: off the record. Well you did you know that he
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: was dating someone? I knew he was on a reality show? Uh,
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: what do you mean he's on another reality show? Yeah?
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: I knew. I knew there was breaking breaking news, so
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: um yeah, I knew that, but I did not know
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: how it turned out. And so it seems like it's
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: turned out very well for him. Oh so they meet
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: on this reality show. I don't know. You tell me
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: what's the headline. The headline is just that they're dating,
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: not that the heavilions that they're dating, and that like
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: possibly like, I don't know that they It says they're
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: very new and they aren't rushing into anything. Blake says
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: that she's really fun and down to earth. Um. Blake
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: posted a picture of himself on New Year's Eve at
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: the Mile High Spirits uh and uh. Apparently she also
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: uploaded a picture of herself standing in front of some
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: very similar looking barrels in the bar on Instagram. So
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: it looks that they spent New Year's Eve together. Oh.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: Gianna even posted repeat after me, I'm about to walk
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: into the best year of my life and then the person.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: The source says that they spent New Year's Year together
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: and they have been getting to know each other. They
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: have a long common due to their experiences on reality TV.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't watch all of his blind I'll be honest,
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: but from what I did watch of it, I thought
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: that Gianna was super sweet, really cute. I like this coupling,
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: and now with Ben's little tidbits, I'm wondering if they
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: met some on some sort of reality show. Jeez, I'm
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: ruining everything today. Um, It's okay, but yes, I mean,
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: if they if they've got something going, Blake is a buddy.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: I like to see him happy. In fact, I think
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: the dog that Jessica and aer Um looking adopting is
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: living in Blake's house with a lease right now. Um,
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: so could possibly be a thing. Maybe I'll ask the puppy, Hey, hey, pup,
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: what have you seen? What have you seen? What have
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: you seen? Maybe maybe some maybe some things he doesn't
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: want to talk about. Yeah, he's too young to see
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: those things. Too young. Well, this is a big headline, um,
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: because I think it really speaks to Clayton and probably
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: why I believe he will go down as a good bachelor,
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: if not a bachelor, if not one of the favorite batchelers.
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: I think he's pretty self aware. I think he understands
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: um criticism and where it comes from. Well, well, here's
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: the headline. Clayton Eckered responds to Nick's Nick File questioning
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: him being chosen as the bachelor. The statement Clayton makes
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: is I don't harbor any resentment toward him. There's an
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: interesting quote in here. Actually I'd love for you to read,
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: because I really do you think it speaks to who
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: Clayton is. All right, So this is what he said
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: in reference to you know, Nick not thinking initially that
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: he was the best choice because you know, Nick kind
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: of backtracked after seeing the first episode. Uh, he goes,
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: this is what Clayton said. I thought there were points
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: where my personality did come through. I thought the date
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: with Michelle and all that actually went really well. I
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: thought it showed my goofy side. It showed my dance moves,
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: which is why I said it's my resolution this year,
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: I want to get better at them. Um. But it
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: showed this playful side of me. Um. Then he said,
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: there's a little snippet. I guess where it was, just
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: a little snippet per se. I guess. I don't know
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: how much screen time I had, maybe ten twenty minutes,
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: whatever it was, It wasn't much. But when Nick made
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: the comment about him being an unconventional pick, he this
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: is what Clayton thought. He said, Okay, I can see
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: where you're coming from. But but then again, um, you're
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: gonna get plenty of time to see me now on
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: my season going forward. Um. He also said that if
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: he still feels that way, Nick still feels this way
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: towards the end of it, then then fair sure, Um,
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: we'll have a conversation at that point. I'll talk to him.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: You know, what is it that you don't get? But
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: for right now, I do understand. I don't harbor any
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: resentment for somebody that makes a comment like that. I
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: think it's his platform. He kind of speculates on all
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: these things. He doesn't know a thing about me. Yeah, hey, um,
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: you know, Nick's a podcast toast. You can get paid
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: having opinions. And I think a lot of people's opinions
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: were who next is Clayton guy? But as Clayton said,
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: we'll get to know him more as the season goes on.
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: Let's hold her judgment, even though even here at the
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: Almost Famous podcasts were like, how in the world that
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: they choose this dude? He wasn't even shown, But after
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: two episodes, we're going okay, makes a little more sense.
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: Big headline here. Former bachelortte Andy Dorfman's new boyfriend revealed
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: inside their fairy tale romance. This according to fairy Tale Romance.
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: At first on Instagram, she was keeping his face like
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: kind of concealed if you noticed. But now we know
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: who he is. His name is Lane Heart, and he
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: is a man from her past. They met each other
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: years ago during college through a mutual friend. Um who
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: the mutual friend, went to school with Blaine in South Carolina.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: They both happened to be in Italy at the same
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: time this past summer and reconnected after fifteen years and
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: they've been together ever since. Wow, that's kind of cool.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: Um and the inside source tells e that this is
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: the fairy tale that Andy has always dreamed of. She's
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: never been happier before in her life. Wow. What a headline. Well, hey,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: that's all we have for today. What an amazing episode.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: Thank you to Connor Saley for coming on and breaking
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: down this week's episode with us. We're also going to
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: have him for an in depth episode dig into who
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: he is as a person here uh and that will
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: be posted very very soon, But until then, thanks for
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: joining us. I've been in, I've been Ashley. Bye, guys,
• 1:01:02
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