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- Ali Schmahl: I get very emotional, you know. I laughed and I cried. Something beautiful happened because of the subject of the film, you know. A lot of people in the team started to share stories about their family, and so ⁓ every day we had a very beautiful conversation. Every person has a story. Some stories make us laugh, some challenge us. Some stay with us long after they're over. But sometimes the most meaningful part of a story isn't the ending. It's the conversation that begins afterwards. Welcome to Beyond Our Stories. I'm Ali. I'm Stephanie. And today we're joined by Marine Boyne, the lead actress of Palanfa. Hi everyone. Bonjour maman. On a du nouveau? Rémi, sais si elle s'est réveillée ou. ⁓ but you see, moi j'en sais pas plus que vous, j'ai les infos pour me voudir. On dirait ce qu'on voudra quand même, mais heureusement qu'elle fait des tentatives de suicide, maman. ⁓ non ⁓ le plus Stop up ⁓ bah tu es venu finalement Je suis content de voir. Baby Lee! In a movie, Marine brings remarkable honesty and sensitivity to a character who is trying to find her place while navigating family, love, uncertainty, and the complicated process of growing into herself. And today we want to hear about her role, but also about Maureen as a person behind the story on screen. We will talk about Maureen's journey into acting, the experiences that shaped her. If she wants to share it with us, then also about the fears and dreams that she carries, and what she has learned about identity, happiness, and becoming the person that she is today. Maureen, welcome to Beyond Our Stories. We are very happy to have you with us. I'm really happy to be with you at all. Before we start Was acting always a dream of you or did life surprise you? And were you always creative? Honestly, ⁓ acting was not a dream. When I when I was younger, you know, when I was a child, I didn't feel allowed to dream about this, you know, because I come from a small town, from the suburbs, you know, I come from a a violent and poor town and I I don't have artists in my family. So no, I didn't dream about ⁓ about acting, about being an actress. No. Yeah, I mean it was mm for me, acting was like a hobby, you know. But it was not a job. It was not ⁓ it was not realistic for me to think about it as a job. But you said it was a hobby, so you were acting already? Yes. ⁓ I mean as a hobby, ⁓ I used to to act on plays. During ⁓ ten years. During ten years, yes, during ⁓ when I was a teenager. Okay. ⁓ and do you remember the first movie or the play that you that made you think, I want to do this, I want to act? ⁓ this is kind of sad, you know, but no, I don't remember because when I was a child or even a teenager, I didn't see in movies many complex and strong female characters, so I wasn't able to relate, you know? It was not possible for me. And I mean this is this is something new in cinema to have a strong female character, ⁓ interesting female character. This is really new and this is great. And so so so what made you then say, ⁓ but I have to I have to start acting now, even though it wasn't it wasn't that you weren't surrounded by actors. It wasn't like part of your planned journey. When I was a child, I was ⁓ often on stage. I mean I loved it, obviously. So because I was not shy and I I loved ⁓ I love I loved acting and and dancing and ⁓ writing too and drawing. Well I was really creative and so I think maybe it was a natural way for me to act and to start ⁓ get involved in many projects. And I met ⁓ a lot of people when I was like sorry, ⁓ in my twenties. I met a lot of people who want to to do cinema who who wanted to do some some film. And and this is how I began. ⁓ yeah, I get ⁓ I get involved in in many ⁓ you know ⁓ projects ⁓ without money, without anything and we tried at this time we tried to do some film without money. And it was ⁓ incredibly ⁓ interesting because I think this is the best the best way to to make movies, you know, without money. But with a lot of patience. Okay, that's very interesting. And you said that ⁓ you had a different childhood because you were in a small small town and in a in a specific family. What kind of child were you? ⁓ because many of you many of listeners and viewers might ask, okay, ⁓ she said she she had a different childhood. No, no, no, no, no, not at all. Not at all, no, no, no, no. I had a very loving family, really? No no, it was really okay. Okay. No no. ⁓ I had ⁓ a very loving family. I was ⁓ surrounded by a lot of people, ⁓ a lot of friends. I was all the time surrounded with a lot of people, I was ⁓ very f full of life, as I say, ⁓ I was not ⁓ shy at all. So yeah, I was full of energy. And I was always ⁓ playing, ⁓ doing stuff, ⁓ inventing, you know, other world. So I was and I was in my own head too. It's very visible on your Instagram profile, for example. How how full of energy you are and how playful you are. That's that's amazing. And you said earlier That you didn't see so many great female characters, strong female characters in theaters and on screen. Was there? ⁓ I'm just curious. Maybe maybe there wasn't, but maybe was there a character, a male character, that you thought, ⁓ I wish that was written for a woman? Because I wish to play around like that? ⁓ You know, one ⁓ one of my first ⁓ memory in ⁓ theatre is ⁓ the fifth element from Luc Besson. And maybe I wished it was me, but not for the woman, for the man I mean, you know? So maybe At this time, I wanted to be Bruce Willis? Maybe, yes. I don't know. This is the first thing ⁓ yeah in it came to me. No, it's also a complicated question. I couldn't also answer it for my partner. I was just curious. You said you have you have a lot of friends and you had also a lot of friends. ⁓ how would your friends ⁓ describe you in three words? What do you think? Funny, I guess. I hope. ⁓ funny, ⁓ full of life. I think I mean I can be exhausting sometime, I think. ⁓ so this is not always a good thing. And ⁓ I really hope people think I'm kind because I know this is like a cliche, but ⁓ I think really ⁓ kindness is the most ⁓ precious value really. So I really hope my friends think I'm I'm a kind person. You you you hope that your fr your friends ⁓ believe that you are kind. Yes. I hope so. Yeah, yeah, that that's ⁓ if if if if someone has a lot of friends, that's definitely the case that people people believe that that this person is kind because people love to be friend with kind people and not with with not kind people, let's say. That's that I I believe that that's the case because you are a kind person and you are a an amazing person, so b that's why you have a lot of friends. ⁓ thank you. Thank you. From this conversation that we had until now, ⁓ I believe that you experience that that sometimes people misunderstand something about you and about being an actress. Mm. Yes. Yes. What what what what i what is that in in i ⁓ for you? what what what do people misunderstand from you and from being an actress that you encountered until now? from being an actress many things. Being an actress is an unfair job, really, because most of the time you work very hard and nothing happened. So it's really frustrating, it's really complicated to stay strong and yeah, to to keep on doing this job. because you know you can have a wonderful part in in a wonderful movie and the next month you have nothing. I don't think people realize ⁓ realise sorry ⁓ this. ⁓ you can go to twenty edition and succeed at only one or even zero. So yeah, it's really hard. It's really hard, really. Yeah. It means that this is also the the the hardest part of becoming an actress, right? Yeah, and even when you when you already are an actress, it's ⁓ where I mean it's gonna be a complicated job until to the end of the of your life because nothing ⁓ nothing is ⁓ I don't know how to say in English. On Francais it's rien n'est jamais acquis nothing i is granted this is this is it okay okay so when you're an actress nothing is is granted you can't take anything for granted yeah yes Never. And this is ⁓ this is so disturbing sometimes, you know? Yeah. So when you're describing this, were there ever moments where you felt like you wanted to quit or look into another profession? Yeah, every day. Every day. No. But ⁓ there is one thing about me ⁓ which is is is special. ⁓ this is I am an actress, but I am a journalist too. I am a journalist as specialized in cinema. So this is particular, you know, because I have two jobs and I'm very passionate about this these two jobs. So When one of my job when one of my two jobs doesn't work very well, I have another one. And I can focus on my second job. And this is ⁓ this is a great thing, I think. Yeah. Because I'm yeah, always busy. So I don't have too much time to think, to overthink. So this ⁓ yeah, that's good. And do you think you can learn With one job, doing one job you can learn for the other. Like when you're working as a journalist, you learn for acting and th the other way around. Yes, ⁓ okay. Maybe I'm gonna need to answer in in French for this one. ⁓ fit ⁓ complete and keep ⁓ interpénetr line and other. ⁓ The fact that I'm actrice me permetting to compress the cinema in another fashion because I also have part of people who fabric. And I say what I'm on a plateau, I say what I'm over a camera, I say what the actors think, I say exactly what the people know, that's why we fabricate a film. So in particular journalist, it's really a verse, in like comedian. The fact to be a journalist cinema and have a certain culture in the history of cinema, and also have a certain notion of analysis of film, so I see the film in another fashion, I have a regard analytic. And entire comedian, it's very interesting because it permitted to have also a certain record. Pas forcément on the films that I feel, but in too surprised I'm and what I've and what I entice journalist I have a regard on the cinema that is very feminist. And that means to say on a comedian what I'm doing. Sorry, it was so long. Do you want to translate it yourself or do you want me to like try to translate the gist of it? What are you comfortable with? If you can to summarize. I'll try if this is possible. Yeah. So so you said both jobs inform each other. So when you're working as a journalist, you get the information from being an actress that you know what it's like to be in front of the camera and you understand the creative process that goes into it. So that is helping you as a journalist. And then when you're working as an actor. It helps you to have the journalistic background with all the analysis and movie history that you can then also bring to what's asked of you as an actress. That's really just a broad summary of it. This is perfect. Thank you so much. ⁓ yes, and there is there is also one thing I hate about ⁓ being an actress. It's ⁓ and maybe ⁓ people don't realize too ⁓ how much this is horrible. This is ⁓ be being an actor, being an actress, it's ⁓ a very competitive job, you know. And I really hate it because you have to be picked, you know? You have to be chosen. And ⁓ there is one role, there is one part, and there are like 20 actress. Yeah. There is only one part. And so you have to be picked. By one thing I I don't like about this this job is that ⁓ you you always compare to others, to other women, to other actress, and this is not healthy, you know? Yeah. And I'm also I'm also working as an actor. so sometimes it's also a challenge to compare yourself to other versions of yourself. Like today I'm not feeling co as comf as confident as I was two days ago. Or looking at your body all the time and analyzing it. At least that's that's ⁓ that that happens for me too. So like you're always in comparison with other people and yourself. Yes. Yeah. I guess that. Hm. Yes, and you know, sometime you don't feel confident, but you have to be ⁓ to be ⁓ on set. And you have to play and you have to act and you have to be ⁓ I mean beautiful and you have to ⁓ to give ⁓ the most that you can give and this is really yeah, this is sometimes this is complicated to be ⁓ at your at your best. Yeah. But you were chosen for ⁓ the role for Bel Enfant. Mm-hmm. How did that happen? How did you got involved? Well, this is a beautiful story. ⁓ because I became friend with ⁓ Jim. So the director of Bel Enfant. I met him many years ago. It was like 10 years ago, I think, maybe more. And he knew me because he saw me in short film. I think it was it was that in short film. And he loved my energy. And okay. And so he asked me to meet him. And we talked a lot and it was really great and we became friends really quickly. ⁓ because this is a a great guy. He's a really, really great guy and a great person, yeah. and he told me because ⁓ yeah, because you know ⁓ he's ⁓ he's famous ⁓ author, but ⁓ is ⁓ in ⁓ comic book. ⁓ okay he does a comic book. Yeah and so and ⁓ he's very famous for for this. But ⁓ so ten years ago, ⁓ he wanted to do ⁓ his own film, his first film, and ⁓ he told me ⁓ that he was thinking thinking about me for the main the main part and I was like okay let's do this So ⁓ but after this it was very it was ⁓ it was a long journey, you know, ⁓ no ⁓ between the first ⁓ version of the script and the first day on set. It was it was it was very very long. Yeah. ⁓ at the beginning after you me after you met with ⁓ Jim and talked about ⁓ the about the movie Balan Foy, he he told you about the story, right? Yes. Yes, it's only about the story. Yeah. What was your reaction after the first time reading the full script? Because because tell telling telling a story in ⁓ in a personal meeting is very different than reading the full script to understand the whole storyline and everything. So what was your reaction ⁓ after that? Well I'm I get very emotional, you know. I was I laughed and I cried when when I read the script. ⁓ Really? And I was like, okay, I want to do it. I really want to do it. Nah I really want. Because I want I want ⁓ I want to be Emily. Yeah. And is Emily in the movie is anything similar to Maureen in real life? I think Emily is really angry, you know, and she acts like a teenager girl. ⁓ but she's not a teenager girl. And so I'm not like this. Well I hope so. I'm not full of anger like her because I know how to communicate and and she doesn't and this is the biggest issue in her life with her family. But I think we are both of us are intense. Or really intense. Yeah. Yeah. ⁓ For us ⁓ in this podcast it's about the stories and the stories that stay with us ⁓ even after the current role. Is there any particular scene or particular part of the movie that stayed with you even until now? Well, I don't want to spoil, you know. ⁓ but the last scenes were very special for me. ⁓ and for all the team. But there is one scene and it is not in the movie. It has been cut. ⁓ and it stayed with me for a good reason, you know? Because I was supposed to to swim in the sea and to to sit on a rock. But ⁓ I felt like ⁓ like many ⁓ sting like many bites around my butt, you know? So I get out of the water because I was like, what the fuck? What the fuck? What the fuck? And my and my my butt was so red. ⁓ wow. So red and covered with with bites. And ⁓ it was it was really painful and it gets like worse and worse. And it was ⁓ and without I I had to go to the hospital. It was an emergency, but but no. Because it was well I I sah I I sat on venomous animals animals you know animals venomus this is a kind of seafood. Yeah yeah yeah yeah animals you know this is like ⁓ this is ⁓ cre creatures ⁓ like ⁓ very colorful creatures with a little what are they called in English? I don't know. This is not animals. Okay, I I find animals. ⁓ the the the the listeners and the viewers who are who are listening and watching right now they can comment ⁓ what ⁓ this ⁓ this ⁓ C creature is. So ⁓ feel free to write down your thoughts, ⁓ what ⁓ it could be or it ⁓ it ⁓ was. So we are very curious to hear your thoughts. Yeah, ⁓ before we continue our conversation, ⁓ I'd like to take a moment and tell our listeners and viewers about Alef Cine Stream and where they can watch Balanfa. at Aleph Cine Stream we believe the best stories don't just entertain us. They stay with us, they help us understand ourselves, the people we love and the world around us. That's why we carefully create the movies from around the world bringing meaningful stories to audiences who are looking for something genuine and unforgettable. If today's conversation got you interested in watching Bellanfon, you can do so by going to Olive Cena Stream, acminestream.com. And you can watch it in the United States, the UK, Canada, Germany, Spain, and Italy. The movie is in French, but you can watch it with subtitles. English, French, German, Spanish, and Italian. So it's accessible and the story is easy to follow with the subtitles as well. So you are very welcome to watch Belanfort and ⁓ see Marine in the movie. Yeah. So now we go back to our conversation with Marine. Blenfort Touches on family and identity. did working on it ⁓ change the way you think about either of those things, about family, about identity, ⁓ and about yourself? I don't really know, but what I know is, you know, during during the filming, something beautiful happened because of the subject of the film, you know. A lot of people in the team started to share stories. about their family. And so ⁓ every day we had a very beautiful conversation and very deep conversation. And we shared a lot of things. And it was ⁓ well, yes, we shared a lot of things about about this topic, especially. And it was well it was it was really moving and it was really caring. I think That's also the experience that ⁓ viewers will have when they watch it that it feels like it's left something open and they wanna they wanna reflect more on their situation and talk about it. So yeah, I hope so. It's beautiful. Yes. Yeah, and why do you why why do you think ⁓ stories like Balon Form matter nowadays more than ever? You know, when we did some public ⁓ screenings, many people, a lot of people said to us after the screening that the movie made them want to say I love you to their own family. So I think this is important and this is a good thing. Mm-hmm. Yeah ⁓ if someone watches Ballon for today, what do you hope they feel while watching the movie? I think and I hope they're gonna be ⁓ full of tears and full of love and full of hope. I think. Maybe I think people gonna have a good time in front of Bel Enfant because you know, I think at the end of the film it's like maybe we are we are your f family too and we are your friends. I think maybe dunno, maybe viewers gonna have this impression. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I think they could. Yeah, because it was ⁓ it was very emotional for me while I was watching ⁓ I I had moments that I was laughing and I had moments that I I had tears in my eyes and I cried ⁓ because of the emotional scenes. It was I I I I I felt really connected to their story and it was it was very amazing and and still th that's a couple of weeks ago and I still think about some specific scenes ⁓ from the movie that that's That comes into my mind and then think, yeah, okay, ⁓ that's that's that's a good thing. And can I can I ask you ⁓ what is your favorite scene? My my my favorite scene is the scene, it's it's it I I I don't want to spoil it, ⁓ but my my favorite scene is the scene that ⁓ the three sisters are sitting and think and talking about the the mother and say We should accept that. ⁓ okay. And they and they and they vote and they vote for that. because it's in every family and ⁓ every situation that's not everyone is happy with and they need they need to at least understand that and let it go because sometimes sticking to something specific doesn't help further and it makes it even harder to understand and to to at least forgive, even forgive ⁓ forgiving yourself. So that's that was a very that was a very, very ⁓ very emotional scene for me as well while I was crying that ⁓ in that particular scene. So I don't want to spoil it for the for the listeners and the viewers, so check out the movie on a left scene stream, watch it and then come back here and comment ⁓ what scene is your favorite scene from the movie. ⁓ yeah. And my favorite scene is the scene where the three sisters connect again. And you're talking about your dating life. Okay. And yeah. In the car. Yes. In the car. What I think is so beautiful about it is that the dating lives are so different. And y you all judge yourself about it, but in a very lighthearted, sisterly way. So like I think ⁓ the audience can really connect with that. and ⁓ yeah, that it wasn't it didn't feel judged and it just felt Like, ⁓ we're just we're just we're just talking, and we can say whatever is happening without having any fear. And I love that. And I think ⁓ all the characters, ⁓ it's it's very easy to identify with the characters too. Like for the viewers, I think there is a character that they can definitely identify with in one of the four women. What is your favorite scene, Maureen? You played in the movie, but you probably have one favorite scene that you like the most. ⁓ Even if you are not in that particular scene, it can be also possible. ⁓ can I change the question a little bit? Yes. Can I can we ask you what was your favorite scene to play and what's your favorite scene to watch? Well, you know when I watch the movie, I act at the same time, you know? As my character. So I'm like, huh. Yeah, I do the same thing. Yes. It's a bit exhausting for me because I live, I live, I I truly leave the movie. So my favorite scene, ⁓ this is this is not easy, you know. ⁓ okay, I know. ⁓ when when I have dinner with ⁓ Baptiste ⁓ Le Caplan, who is my partner in the in the the film. ⁓ yeah when when we have dinner and and we start to appreciate each other and we drink a lot it was not real alcohol but ⁓ yes and a lot of the ⁓ part of this scene was ⁓ improvised. It was not it was not written. It was not in the script. Yes. And ⁓ I really loved to to do this scene And I love to watch it. Okay. And I don't remember the second part of your question, I'm sorry. Yeah, there was basically both. ⁓ which ⁓ which scene you like to play and which scene you like to watch. So so you answer this. And also I loved watching you play drunk. Like I think that's the best best version of playing drunk that I've ever seen. ⁓ thank you. This is the best compliment. Yes, because this is really hard. Well, not to get drunk. This is easy to get drunk. But hard to play drunk, yes. Yes, yes. And ⁓ yeah, so thank you. Thank you so much. Now after after playing in the movie Balonfall and it's now available also to stream, what do you think? ⁓ what kind of conversations do you wish people had more of? Because the movie is about as we as we said ⁓ already, it's about identity, family, love and understanding and finding finding ourselves. ⁓ in your opinion, what kind of conversation should people have more often? I think ⁓ people should talk about how they evolve, you know? Because everyone changed. But I mean people change and this is ⁓ a proof of ⁓ intelligence, this is a good thing. But I think yeah, we should talk about it, you know, with friends, with family. Like I was like that, you know, but I'm not like that anymore. I changed. And yeah, we should have conversation about that specific topic. But for that we also need to know that we actually changed. So that's also some reflection, right? Yeah, this is true. And this is not easy. Yes. to to look at ourselves. Yes, this is yeah. It's not an anything. Yeah, this is this is true. And I think that happens in the movie too. There are some realizations that just come out of conversations because they they just come out of your character or one of the other sisters, for example, where it just seems like it spills out of them and they realize where they're having this hard conversation. Mm-hmm. Yes. Being a journalist and at the same time being an actress, ⁓ it's very interesting because I believe that you learn a lot of things that you didn't even know before, right? From new movies, from meeting new people or talking to new people, directors, actors, producers, writers, and many others. ⁓ what is something that the that ⁓ journalism or being an actress or or playing in in in in a movie taught you that no acting school ever could? Okay, I think when you are an actress, especially I think you really need if you want to be a good actress, you you really need to have a life full of ⁓ excitement, full of new experiences. Because you cannot have a boring life if you want to be a good actress, because you have to feed yourself, you know. You have to feed yourself, you have to meet new people, you get some mental mental food with all these new experiences. And so what I learned is you need to live something new every day. This can be a tiny thing, you know, but you need to do to live something new every day. That's interesting. And and this could also mean that you might be full of surprise for people. So if someone meets you and start meeting you for a couple of times on events or is starting, let's say, at the beginning of a friendship, what Could surprise people when they get to know you. That they they they they don't really know or they don't understand the first one to meet. okay. Maybe three things. ⁓ I'm very sensitive. I can get emotional very quickly. Very quickly. I mean ⁓ I walk in the street and I see something like I know a pigeon and I start crying. And secondly, ⁓ I am full of doubt. I mean this is crazy and this is much. I'm very full of doubt all the time. And I eat a lot of cheese. Okay. I I eat a lot of cheese. Okay. Every day every day. Okay, you said you said that you are very very very emotional and you are full of doubts. ⁓ what brings you what what what brings you joy in in life the most? Another thing. Cheese? Okay. So cheese. Cheese, yeah for sure. That's good. That's that's easy to find joy then for you, right? Yeah. French cheese. ⁓ bring me joy every day. I'm in cinema, obviously. And I have the chance ⁓ to see movie every day in my life. ⁓ my friends, my boyfriend, my dog. This is a cliche, but no I can I can feel really happy sometimes just just when I watch the sky. This is a I mean very simple life can bring me joy. Fortunately. That's amazing. That's amazing. I don't cry all the time. That's okay. For sure. Yeah, that's that's for sure. Nah, but that's that's amazing because because ⁓ many people out there they expect ⁓ either too much or they think they are not good enough and the and they can they can't have joy in life, but It's easy to have joy with even a small things if we yeah if we just ⁓ focus on them and and ⁓ take them seriously, that's that's that's amazing and it can help us to understand the life, understand ourselves ⁓ and also learning better. ⁓ and and that's that's really amazing to hear. ⁓ that is ⁓ the case for you. If people remember just one thing. After this conversation, after hearing this episode and watching this episode, what would you hope it would be? Well, I hope people are gonna think my English accent is incredible. That's it. Since you are watching f for your job, you have so much experience with movies and and so much contact with movies. What movies do you wish would be created more? Like what types of movies? What types of stories? Well movies with ⁓ female characters. This is important, you know. The industry of cinema is changing and this is a good thing, but This is not ⁓ quick enough, you know? And we have to see a lot of female characters, complex, strong, interesting. This is so important because as women we we have to relate. We have to identify and we have to see ⁓ something else than men on screens. Okay, we are we are moving towards the ending of this episode. And we have a signature question at the end of every episode and this is the same question for every guest that we have. And now ⁓ we are very curious to hear your thoughts and your opinion and your answer, Maureen. What's the bonus story or a movie, even a personal experience that changed the way you see people? This is like a moment but long moment. You know, after after the Me Too. movement women start to to act ⁓ differently with ⁓ each other and women start to discuss about their trauma and we start to share stories about violence about trauma and I realized that every woman has a story about violence and Every woman is kind of traumatized and it made ⁓ it made me, sorry, ⁓ realize that everyone has a burden has a burden. Everyone keeps a secret and and you never know what kind of trauma people try to hide. So ⁓ you have to be gentle, you know. You really have to be ⁓ indulgent, indulgent because you never know. You know that we we made a feature movie about domestic violence and narcissism ⁓ and trauma ⁓ already. The the the poster is here. ⁓ I review my narcissist. I've seen it on your platform, yeah. And I and I want to watch it. Hmm. Yeah, yeah, that would be amazing. We are we are very curious to hear your thoughts ⁓ about it after watching it. So that would be amazing if we if you have the time to ⁓ to watch it. ⁓ Maureen, thank you so much for joining us today and for sharing your story with us ⁓ with such honesty and openness. Thank you so much. It was really great. Yeah, it was it was really fun and thanks to you. Yeah, thank thank thank you. ⁓ and it has been a real pleasure ⁓ getting to know you not only ⁓ as an actress but also the person behind the performance ⁓ in ⁓ Blanfare ⁓ That's amazing. Hmm. We see you too. Mm-hmm. And ⁓ I loved ⁓ your your closing saying that ⁓ we should ⁓ start to look into like what other people are going through because everybody carries ⁓ a story and it can talking about it can also inspire someone else. So that's also why we created this podcast. so that we can spark more conversations. And ⁓ I hope that today's episode has done just that. I hope it too. If you enjoyed this conversation and would like to experience Maureen's incredible performance, ⁓ we highly recommend watching Balon Fa now available on Alepsin stream under www.ac-stream.com. We'll add the link in the description, so feel free to check it out and share with us your thoughts ⁓ after you watched it. Yeah, thank you for listening or watching our podcast Beyond Our Stories. And if this resonated with you, please consider following the podcast and sharing it with someone who might need to hear it. Every story begins on their screen, but it continues within us. Thank you for joining us and we'll see you next time on Beyond Our Stories. A new episode of Beyond Our Stories comes out every Thursday. Subscribe to be part of the next conversation. And if this one stayed with you, we'd love to hear your thoughts in the comments.