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- 0:59Welcome back everybody to the small biz chat podcast.
- 1:02I'm Melinda Emerson, your host, As now, it's time for me to introduce my guest, Maggie Lord.
- 1:08Maggie is an early pioneer in the online digital wedding media space.
- 1:13As the founder and CEO of rustic Wedding Sheet, Maggie led her company for 12 years before it
- 1:19was bought by David's bridal in 2020.
- 1:21Maggie is also the author of 6 books.
- 1:24Today, Maggie has become a sought after strategic advisor for female founded brands
- 1:29allowing her to focus on sharing her knowledge and expertise with other like minded
- 1:33entrepreneurs.
- 1:34Maggie and her entrepreneurs have been featured in Forbes, the New York Times, Business
- 1:38Insider, success magazine, and so much more.
- 1:41For more information, you can go to maggielord.com.
- 1:45Hi, Maggie.
- 1:46It's so nice to have you on the small fish chat podcast.
- 1:48Hi.
- 1:49Thank you for having me.
- 1:51Well, you know, you gotta tell me your backstory.
- 1:53How did you become an entrepreneur?
- 1:56Yeah.
- 1:57I started a business at 26.
- 1:59I was finishing grad school.
- 2:01I was currently engaged to my now husband.
- 2:04I was very excited about it But if you go back to 2007, 2008, there was no Pinterest.
- 2:10There was no Instagram.
- 2:12There was not a really great way to communicate your vision to your vendors.
- 2:16There was a few other wedding blogs at the time, but it was really kind of more of a
- 2:21personal blog space.
- 2:23And I started to really find great content, and I worked with photographers to feature all of
- 2:28their beautiful weddings.
- 2:30And we literally had a readership before I had, a plan for the company.
- 2:36And fast forward a couple of years after that, we were able to be very early on in the process
- 2:41with Pinterest and Instagram, and that led to that next boom for us where we were able to
- 2:47amass millions of monthly readers.
- 2:49I was very excited over those years to be able to license our name to product.
- 2:53And like you said, write books, you know, and really kinda stand out in the wedding world,
- 2:59which led me to the point where I had then gotten married and had 3 kids through the
- 3:03process And even though I loved being an entrepreneur and loved rustic wedding chic, I
- 3:08felt it was, like, the kid who doesn't go to college and lives in your basement.
- 3:11Like, it was time It was time for the business to go to its next level.
- 3:16I had been a solo entrepreneur for all those years with contractors and very junior staff
- 3:22and you know, was really ready for the company to move to its next phase, and it was acquired
- 3:27by David's bridal in 2020.
- 3:29Wow.
- 3:30And you were actually buller with that because David Bridal bought your company and then Laura
- 3:34Davis Bridal got into trouble right after they did it.
- 3:36So I hope to check.
- 3:37You got all your money upfront.
- 3:41Alright.
- 3:41So let's talk about the key components of a solid exit strategy, right, because everything
- 3:47I know, I've I actually interestingly enough starting my business when I was twenty six
- 3:51years old.
- 3:51So I'm celebrating 25 years this year.
- 3:53So what I wanna talk to you about is how early do you have to kind of develop your strategy if
- 4:01one day you want to sell your business?
- 4:03Cause I'm assuming it's not a 1 year, 2 year kind of thing.
- 4:06Is it?
- 4:07No.
- 4:07I you know, a lot of the female founders and brands that I work with now, whether I'm
- 4:12consulting or doing business coaching or helping them with their that plan is we're
- 4:16really crafting something earlier on in their journey than they ever think.
- 4:21Because I always say what happens is when you get to the point of aspiration, or you have to
- 4:25sell for financial reasons, or you've got burnout.
- 4:28And I always say a tired entrepreneur is not an attractive acquisition.
- 4:33So start your roadmap about a possible exit strategy or multiple exit strategies.
- 4:40Right?
- 4:40Cause if you're building your business.
- 4:41And if you're in go mode right now, you might not know where the company is gonna lead you
- 4:46over the next few years.
- 4:48So you might have a couple of different exit strategies in your back pocket, but it's never
- 4:52too early to think about while you're building it.
- 4:56Who could potentially be interested in you one day?
- 5:00I think that is brilliant advice.
- 5:02So What stage of the business cycle do you suggest people start planning?
- 5:08Is it, like, 3 years in, 5 years in after they kinda survive the 5 year?
- 5:12It thing?
- 5:13Like, what, you know, what how when do you think it's the right time?
- 5:17Yep.
- 5:17I think there's usually a sweet spot, and it's It's different for everybody, every business,
- 5:22and every entrepreneur.
- 5:24But I will say that if you try to exit too early, It's usually not as successful.
- 5:30And if you try to exit, and like I said, when it's you've you've got to the point where you
- 5:34need to exit, you're not as attractive and you usually don't get such a sweet deal out of it.
- 5:38So if you're kind of in those middle years of your I'm not tired of this passion yet.
- 5:42I still have a lot of fuel.
- 5:44Right?
- 5:44I'm the company's doing well financially for whatever, you know, sector you're in.
- 5:49And I wake up every day still feeling happy to go to work.
- 5:52Those are the years where you're the most attractive to buyer because what they wanna
- 5:58know is when they acquire your company, you might go with it to to that next company, and
- 6:02they wanna make sure you still have passion if you're leading the brand for them.
- 6:06You know, you wanna get to the point where you don't wanna be in that that space, which I've
- 6:12counseled customers and clients like this where they actually have gotten to be so successful
- 6:18that the pool of buyers that can buy them now is so small.
- 6:23So it's better to be in that middle stage where you have a lot of interesting parties that
- 6:28could potentially acquire you and you're kind of, a stand out among your competition.
- 6:34I love it.
- 6:35I love it.
- 6:36Now what about the financial preparation side of it?
- 6:38It's like, okay.
- 6:39If I'm 5 to 7 years in, maybe you start time to start thinking about it.
- 6:43But what do I gotta have in place financially in terms of paperwork for, you know, to go
- 6:48through the due diligence process with a potential buyer.
- 6:51Yep.
- 6:51That's what I was gonna say.
- 6:52You know, I learned a lot through my acquisition.
- 6:56And, you know, because I was a solo entrepreneur and because I, you know, really
- 7:00ran the company by myself, I didn't have, like, data rooms set up for people to view.
- 7:06Right?
- 7:06Like, we just weren't at that level of the company.
- 7:09So what you wanna do is save yourself time and frustration so that when either someone comes
- 7:13to you and wants to look at an acquisition, you're not scrambling to find all those pieces
- 7:19for them.
- 7:20So if you go into due diligence, you know, they're gonna need to see the financials for
- 7:23the companies.
- 7:24They're gonna wanna look at the, you know, past maybe 3 to 5 years of tax returns, right,
- 7:29definitely, if you have a, an accountant or CPA that you work with, make sure that they know
- 7:34that you're gonna head into an acquisition phase because that would allow them to pull
- 7:37what they need.
- 7:39But besides the financials, you know, it's really important to have things like a company
- 7:431 sheet that highlights all your best features you know, it's something that you can easily
- 7:48circulate.
- 7:49It allows for you to share and brag about your social following or your customer base or
- 7:54whatever it is that really showcases why you stand out.
- 7:58And then on top of that, you know, if you even if you're a small business, it's important to
- 8:02have some sort of brand Bible that, you know, I used to say, since I led the company on my own,
- 8:08if I got hit by a bus, no one would even know how to update something in the company, right,
- 8:13So it's important to build some of those pieces and have that available.
- 8:17So when that attractive acquisition, you know, partner comes to the table, you have what you
- 8:22need to get that conversation rolling quickly.
- 8:25Now the speaking of buyers, like, how do you identify good people that might be a potential
- 8:32know, did you call David's bridal's 800 number and talk to the president?
- 8:35I mean, like, how did you get to the point where, you were able to kinda recognize who you
- 8:41should be looking at as a buyer.
- 8:43Yeah.
- 8:43Well, I think what happens with a lot of people I've spoken to is they look at someone who is
- 8:47either a direct competitor and they think, oh, they'll wanna absorb us.
- 8:51And sometimes that happens.
- 8:53But, you know, I think you really have to get creative.
- 8:55And I tell all my clients, no matter what phase we're in, that you really should have an
- 9:00ongoing running list of potential buyers at some point.
- 9:04Right?
- 9:04Just keep that living, breathing document going, add to it, you know, as you interesting
- 9:09companies come across your screen, I actually did email the CEO of David's bridle and talked
- 9:16about how Rustick Wedding Sheet was gonna go on the public market, but I had a handful of ideal
- 9:23partners that I wanted to talk to before.
- 9:26I had gone down the knot with a lot of other media companies that were interested in
- 9:30acquiring us, but I knew the secret sauce in the way that you need to communicate to someone
- 9:37who's interested in purchasing you is what can you do to expand their customer life cycle?
- 9:43Right?
- 9:43So rustic wedding, she obviously got in front of the bride at 12 to 14 months before her
- 9:48wedding.
- 9:48David's bridal, you know, really engages when she's ready purchase, which is usually around 9
- 9:53months.
- 9:53So we were extending the life of being able to communicate with the customer.
- 9:57So it's those creative ways that you can look at, who you could be working with, who could
- 10:02potentially acquire you, and how that is going to help them be able to either reach more,
- 10:10customers, be able to extend their sales funnel, whatever it is, you know, but I'm a
- 10:16firm believer in that it usually, the person who's perfect to purchase you is not the one
- 10:22that automatically just comes up as the first thing in your brain.
- 10:26I love it.
- 10:26I love it.
- 10:27And when we come right back, we're gonna talk more with Maggie Lord about what you need to
- 10:31know.
- 10:31One day, if you wanna sell your business.
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- 11:18Hi, everybody.
- 11:19Welcome back to the small bizchett podcast.
- 11:21I'm Melinda Emerson small biz lady, your host.
- 11:23And I'm talking with Maggie Lord about what you need to know if you wanna have a successful
- 11:28exit from your business.
- 11:30Alright, Maggie.
- 11:31I gotta ask you.
- 11:32So how do I get fair value for my business?
- 11:35Because it seems like valuation is in the eye of the vote.
- 11:38So talk to me about, you know, how you were able to negotiate that.
- 11:43Yeah.
- 11:43So when you're really looking at your company, you know, I think a lot of times people come to
- 11:47the table and just think straight numbers.
- 11:49And if they're in if they have some sort of sales, it's gonna be, oh, it's 5x 10x, 3x,
- 11:53whatever it is.
- 11:54I say scrap that completely because it's about getting creative because there are things to
- 11:59you and your company that are of value that you can't put a dollar amount on, such as your
- 12:05social footprint.
- 12:06Is that massive?
- 12:07Right?
- 12:08How does that translate to dollars for you?
- 12:10So when trying to come up with evaluation, yes, there are some things that you can look at.
- 12:14You know, the revenue that the company is making all of those sort of things.
- 12:19But I would say, look at a full 360 scope of the brand and put a dollar value on those
- 12:25things that you the person who's gonna acquire you can't automatically easily get.
- 12:30So, again, if it's like the social footprint that you have, that's gonna allow them to scale
- 12:34your brand so much better and easier And so I would say it's not just about a straight
- 12:40numbers game.
- 12:40It's about looking at the entire company and seeing where your company has value.
- 12:46I love that.
- 12:47And then tell me how important is confidentiality when you're, like, first
- 12:54starting the sales process and when you're close to, like, actually closing the sales
- 12:59process.
- 12:59Like, how does that How how can you kind of keep your potential buyers from outing you to
- 13:05even your staff or or other potential customers?
- 13:08Yeah.
- 13:09You know, I think it's kind of like dating.
- 13:11We're in the beginning.
- 13:11It's all roses and everything's fantastic and beautiful.
- 13:14And as you get, you know, through the process longer and longer and longer, it starts to get
- 13:19sometimes can be frustrating, and sometimes it doesn't end with an actual act you know,
- 13:23acquisition.
- 13:24And so you would wanna make sure that all the information that you've shared has been kept,
- 13:29you know, perfectly confidential.
- 13:32And so, you know, normally, after maybe just 1 or 2 very light conversations, you would enter,
- 13:37you know, into some sort of NDNDA, which really allows you to say, everything we share from a,
- 13:43you know, a legal standpoint is gonna stay between us because if it doesn't end in an
- 13:46acquisition, you're going out again to new businesses and you don't want anything shared
- 13:53about, you know, staff or people who you work with that you're gonna share that information.
- 14:02You know, so those are things that you can mutually agree upon, but you always have to
- 14:05look out for yourself because it doesn't always end in that perfect acquisition marriage.
- 14:11And then how long does the process take?
- 14:13Like, how long did it take you from the time Davis Brino acted like they were interested to
- 14:18a point where somebody handed you a check.
- 14:20Like, how long did that take?
- 14:23So my it's a little unique because it was 2020.
- 14:26We I met the David's team in New York in March of 2020, a week, 1 week before the world shut
- 14:32down.
- 14:33We had terms in a deal, and everything was pretty much wrapped up.
- 14:37And I went over to the executive team at Davis in July of that year.
- 14:41It was publicly announced in October.
- 14:44So I have worked with clients where they are in a due diligence and they have a letter of
- 14:51intent from a company.
- 14:52Sometimes a month, 3 months, 6 months, it doesn't all have to be, like, really drawn out.
- 14:59So you can say to yourself, you can obviously say to anybody you're speaking with, I'd like
- 15:05this to be, like, let's fast track it.
- 15:06I'd like this to be, you know, something that moves quickly so that we can move on with
- 15:10business.
- 15:11You know, so I would say anywhere the normal time that, of course, with legal things that
- 15:16come into it take the longest.
- 15:18So I'd say you're looking anywhere from 3, 6, to 9 months to actually getting something done.
- 15:24Now that's really interesting.
- 15:25You are the shortest person I have ever talked to that has sold a business.
- 15:29Everybody else I know is, like, it could take 14 to 24 months.
- 15:34So that's really interesting that your process in the middle of the pandemic still move
- 15:38forward so quickly.
- 15:40I guess, because people had time with their hands so they could focus on it.
- 15:43I don't know.
- 15:43But, that's really fascinating.
- 15:45So my last question for you is this simply.
- 15:48What is the best business advice someone gave you during this whole process of exit, you
- 15:54know, exiting your business?
- 15:55Yeah.
- 15:56The best business advice I ever got ever was that passion can be a profit.
- 16:01Right?
- 16:01You could turn a passion into a profit.
- 16:04During this process, it really was don't cash that check-in your brain before it's done.
- 16:11I had been told many times that you can get down to the wire and the acquisition doesn't go
- 16:16through.
- 16:16And, of course, that would be devastating.
- 16:18So someone said to me, don't cash that check mentally until everything is signed sealed and
- 16:23it's over and done.
- 16:26Excellent.
- 16:27Excellent.
- 16:27Excellent.
- 16:27Well, I really appreciate this information.
- 16:30You have absolutely no idea how timely it is for me, and we'll talk offline about that.
- 16:40Thanks for listening to the small biz chat podcast with Emerson.
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