Latest / Frightmares / Ep. 160 - The Strangers (2008)
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- 0:43Speaker 1: So yeah, next year, I'm gonna add sound effects to
- 0:45Speaker 1: the uh soundboard, so we're gonna do We're gonna do
- 0:49Speaker 1: that one for no shut not no that right there
- 0:54Speaker 1: for fright mayre certified slap, right, and then uh, when
- 0:58Speaker 1: we don't excuse me, and when we don't like a
- 1:01Speaker 1: movie or it's not a frightmar certified slap, we'll have
- 1:07Speaker 1: well you're doing it. And then and then we obviously
- 1:13Speaker 1: have to have this because we go fair fair affair
- 1:15Speaker 1: all the time, so natural if it would load fucking
- 1:20Speaker 1: do it, bitch, And now you're gonna take me back?
- 1:23Speaker 1: Here we go. Yeah, we obviously need to put this
- 1:24Speaker 1: in there. Oh my balls, come on. And then I
- 1:33Speaker 1: don't know why I have this, But what's this play?
- 1:38Speaker 2: What is it?
- 1:41Speaker 1: I don't know why I had that one? Why is it?
- 1:43Speaker 1: Why is a woman sobbing on there?
- 1:45Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 1:46Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, it was supposed to be a
- 1:48Speaker 1: woman uh screaming like ah, but that's not that's that's different.
- 1:53Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get to the stuff.
- 1:56Speaker 1: Oh, there we go. So that's what's gonna happen next year,
- 2:03Speaker 1: and among other things. But I would like to actually
- 2:05Speaker 1: have fun sound effects rather than they're really cheesy ones,
- 2:08Speaker 1: you know.
- 2:11Speaker 2: More.
- 2:12Speaker 1: Let's see if I can guess it this time. Oh,
- 2:17Speaker 1: I don't need you right now.
- 2:19Speaker 2: No, I thought it was the yellow one.
- 2:20Speaker 1: There we go, it's green. What are we doing? What's
- 2:25Speaker 1: going on? Who are we doing? I mean, what are
- 2:29Speaker 1: we doing? Well? Sexual? Uh, this is episode one, one
- 2:32Speaker 1: hundred and sixty. I'm your host, Austin Proctor, and that
- 2:36Speaker 1: is your secondary host, secondary second in command, my commander
- 2:42Speaker 1: in chief or something, my vice president.
- 2:46Speaker 2: There we go, Gabrielle equal you said so.
- 2:50Speaker 1: Well, you know, if I die, then you take over
- 2:52Speaker 1: the podcast. That's just how it works.
- 2:53Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 2:55Speaker 1: Ohh the podcast is just gonna stop one day and
- 2:58Speaker 1: everyone's gonna be like, fucker didn't he It's what's exactly,
- 3:01Speaker 1: That's exactly what's gonna happen.
- 3:03Speaker 2: Morbid.
- 3:04Speaker 1: I don't know. So we're talking about the Strangers today,
- 3:07Speaker 1: the original Strangers from two thousand and eight, which apparently
- 3:10Speaker 1: I've seen. And it's perfect timing too, because I've been
- 3:13Speaker 1: seeing stuff online dread Central or someone posted it about
- 3:17Speaker 1: how this series or whatever is kind of being rebooted
- 3:19Speaker 1: and they plan to do a trilogy, which I mean,
- 3:23Speaker 1: you can really make infinite amount of home invasion movies.
- 3:26Speaker 2: They were there.
- 3:28Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, because they have Prey at Night, which
- 3:31Speaker 1: came out and I think it came out in twenty eighteen.
- 3:33Speaker 1: It is about ten years later, yeah, twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen,
- 3:36Speaker 1: So I mean, I mean, I'm down for more of
- 3:38Speaker 1: these movies. I remember we watched the second one one
- 3:42Speaker 1: like one time when it first came out, and I
- 3:43Speaker 1: gave I remember giving into three, so I remember liking it,
- 3:47Speaker 1: but I remember not liking it nearly as much as
- 3:48Speaker 1: this one because I think the first one is fucking
- 3:51Speaker 1: a very well done movie, realized heavily on creep factor,
- 3:55Speaker 1: and just like very it's just kind of intense, Like
- 3:57Speaker 1: the situation that they're in is just very intense and
- 3:59Speaker 1: can be overwhelming if you really put yourself in the
- 4:02Speaker 1: shoes of these people. So yeah, like, I'm down for
- 4:05Speaker 1: more of these movies, but you know, they just have
- 4:07Speaker 1: to be done right, and you know, I don't want
- 4:09Speaker 1: them to just be like standard Hollywood bullshit that's just
- 4:13Speaker 1: kind of thrown out there for no reason. I need
- 4:15Speaker 1: to go get some DVDs. So you've talked about that
- 4:17Speaker 1: for two seconds.
- 4:18Speaker 2: What am I supposed to talk about like when I
- 4:20Speaker 2: saw the original one or something. I didn't even know
- 4:23Speaker 2: about that. How would I talk about that? I'm so sorry, guys,
- 4:25Speaker 2: I don't know anything about that. I'm going to change
- 4:28Speaker 2: subjects abruptly. I don't know anything about it to comment.
- 4:33Speaker 2: You didn't tell me about that till just now.
- 4:35Speaker 1: You don't have any thoughts and feelings on a possible
- 4:37Speaker 1: trilogy coming out about The Strangers?
- 4:40Speaker 2: Goody, Really, where's.
- 4:44Speaker 1: Your thoughts and feelings that I normally get out of here?
- 4:46Speaker 2: You have them right now. You just told me I
- 4:48Speaker 2: have had no time to think about it. Well, that's
- 4:51Speaker 2: what you get.
- 4:52Speaker 1: That's unfortunate not telling me. I figured you heard about that.
- 4:55Speaker 2: You had to physically have those in here to know
- 4:57Speaker 2: what they were.
- 4:58Speaker 1: No, I just like to look at them when I
- 4:59Speaker 1: talk about them.
- 5:01Speaker 2: That it's like a weird personal thing.
- 5:04Speaker 1: Strangers reboot trilogy confirmed. Madeline Pitis to star good can't wait?
- 5:11Speaker 1: All right? Well whatever sold your love?
- 5:12Speaker 2: Madeline?
- 5:13Speaker 1: Sure? Sure, sure, So that's what we're talking about today,
- 5:16Speaker 1: where you know, but before that, of course, we've got
- 5:18Speaker 1: other shit to talk about. It's funny too, because every
- 5:20Speaker 1: week I'm worried. I'm like, oh God, are we gonna
- 5:22Speaker 1: be able to fill an hour in fifteen minutes even
- 5:24Speaker 1: though we used to fill fucking two hours somehow, I
- 5:26Speaker 1: don't know how, but we did, probably because we were
- 5:28Speaker 1: viewing seventeen movies. And then it comes time and I'm like,
- 5:31Speaker 1: why do how do we always have so much shit
- 5:33Speaker 1: to talk about? It's been seven days since we did
- 5:35Speaker 1: the podcast. Sometimes there's like sometimes there's like three days
- 5:38Speaker 1: in between podcasts, and it's like so much shit to
- 5:40Speaker 1: talk about. Talk about some screen Factory releases that came out.
- 5:44Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about a movie you saw, uh yeh yesterday. Yes,
- 5:48Speaker 1: this does not seem like yesterday. It seems like two
- 5:50Speaker 1: days ago at this point. To talk about a movie
- 5:53Speaker 1: you saw yesterday with your friends and a movie I
- 5:56Speaker 1: saw yesterday with random strangers, Yeah, with your what they're
- 6:00Speaker 1: your friends, so your friends too, with our mutual friends.
- 6:04Speaker 1: Thank you. And then we're gonna talk about a movie
- 6:07Speaker 1: that we both saw together that was a horror movie
- 6:10Speaker 1: in Dolby and yeah, so first things first, let me
- 6:13Speaker 1: just say I completely fucked out my thirty one days
- 6:15Speaker 1: of Horror and put in the wrong Dracula. I put
- 6:19Speaker 1: in the one from nineteen fifty four. The one I
- 6:21Speaker 1: was supposed to watch is nineteen seventy nine. So that
- 6:23Speaker 1: completely fucked up everything, and I eventually, I inevitably, I
- 6:26Speaker 1: just took it out. I just took that movie out.
- 6:28Speaker 1: I was like, fuck you, you fuck things up. I replaced
- 6:30Speaker 1: it with another movie. So now my days are all off.
- 6:33Speaker 1: So everything I said on that Advent Terror is now
- 6:35Speaker 1: shifted down a day, and I've added something. I don't
- 6:38Speaker 1: remember what I added, but I added a different movie
- 6:41Speaker 1: because there's just there's too many fucking movies that are Dracula. Yeah,
- 6:45Speaker 1: I thought it was from fifty four, and I'm just
- 6:47Speaker 1: a dumb dumb who can't do things properly.
- 6:49Speaker 2: So then I got to watch a movie I did
- 6:53Speaker 2: not like.
- 6:53Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we could talk about that too. That's a
- 6:56Speaker 1: good one. You liked it.
- 6:58Speaker 2: I did not.
- 6:58Speaker 1: I know, I'm kidding. I added him Squirm from nineteen
- 7:01Speaker 1: seventy six. So the one that we watched, Me and
- 7:05Speaker 1: you together is because, like you know, my first week
- 7:07Speaker 1: of thirty one days of horror is like all Hammer
- 7:09Speaker 1: horror films. And the one we watched together was called
- 7:11Speaker 1: Curse of the Werewolf. And I'll let you explain what
- 7:13Speaker 1: you didn't like about it because I was in and
- 7:15Speaker 1: out of sleeping during it.
- 7:16Speaker 2: Yeah, he fell asleep, which are so good because it
- 7:18Speaker 2: was for him to watch and somehow I'm watching this
- 7:20Speaker 2: going why am I watching this?
- 7:22Speaker 1: This just fucking just tanks. That day, I was like,
- 7:23Speaker 1: I need to sleep, Oh my god.
- 7:26Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I mostly had a problem with the fact
- 7:28Speaker 2: that they introduced a female character who gets sexually harassed
- 7:33Speaker 2: by her employer thrown into his jail cells for not
- 7:38Speaker 2: talking to her talking to him. She's mute, yeah, because
- 7:42Speaker 2: you wouldn't want her to be able to scream or
- 7:44Speaker 2: communicate the things that have happened to her. Because she
- 7:48Speaker 2: then gets raped by homeless guy who was supposed to
- 7:52Speaker 2: be a werewolf, but apparently that was too much. They
- 7:55Speaker 2: just made him homeless and then added in this curse
- 7:58Speaker 2: that if you of birth on Christmas Day, then you'll
- 8:01Speaker 2: give birth to a were wolf, and that's how they
- 8:03Speaker 2: figured that out. But they basically made her mute so
- 8:06Speaker 2: she couldn't scream when she got raped, because as soon
- 8:08Speaker 2: as that happened.
- 8:09Speaker 1: I'm like, she did not they made her mute?
- 8:12Speaker 2: Yeah, like they like they whoever wrote the story made.
- 8:15Speaker 1: Her Carecter I was like, she was mute or they
- 8:18Speaker 1: didn't make her mute in the movie. Once they did
- 8:20Speaker 1: for the movie, and then they.
- 8:22Speaker 2: Made her mute so that way she couldn't scream, she
- 8:25Speaker 2: couldn't protest, she couldn't you know, report her own crime
- 8:30Speaker 2: that happened to her, and literally she just dies. But
- 8:33Speaker 2: they still put her on the cover anyway, because her
- 8:35Speaker 2: boobs were big and that would sell things. You're like, yikes, I.
- 8:40Speaker 1: Didn't think sex souled back in the nineteen whatevers.
- 8:44Speaker 2: It really really did, though, But yeah, it was just
- 8:47Speaker 2: like women, you know, you know, it was much more
- 8:49Speaker 2: modest clothing back then, and showing any sort of skin
- 8:51Speaker 2: is like, you know, it was a whoa, I don't.
- 8:53Speaker 1: I mean, I guess that wasn't the thing really in
- 8:55Speaker 1: the sixties though.
- 8:56Speaker 2: Yeah, it was grossly offensive to women.
- 8:59Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So that's their review on that one. Not
- 9:02Speaker 1: too great.
- 9:03Speaker 2: I think I gave like a tour and then it
- 9:04Speaker 2: was really boring after that.
- 9:07Speaker 1: Well, it's sad because the subsequent Hammer films that I
- 9:11Speaker 1: watched were fucking awesome, and I need to show you
- 9:14Speaker 1: a couple of them, because I watched a movie called
- 9:17Speaker 1: Night Creatures or Captain Clegg and that was awesome. Peter
- 9:20Speaker 1: Cushing's fucking a boss in that movie. Then I watched
- 9:24Speaker 1: Kiss of the Vampire, which you would really like obviously vampires,
- 9:28Speaker 1: but really the only thing I gave it half a
- 9:30Speaker 1: star less because the ending was kind of weird. Maybe
- 9:33Speaker 1: you can fucking you're.
- 9:34Speaker 2: Smart, you know, maybe yay, good for me.
- 9:37Speaker 1: Maybe you can help me identify what the fuck was
- 9:40Speaker 1: going on in that. But then Paranoiac was fucking amazing
- 9:44Speaker 1: four stars. That's the one you would absolutely love as well.
- 9:46Speaker 1: And then I watched Evil of Frankenstein, which was a
- 9:48Speaker 1: three star. Was pretty good. Yeah, it was interesting because
- 9:51Speaker 1: like they brought Frankenstein back and they hire a hypnotist
- 9:56Speaker 1: to you know, hypnotize them into like listening or something
- 9:59Speaker 1: like that. But then the hypnotist wants to like use
- 10:01Speaker 1: him for his own good and makes him go do
- 10:03Speaker 1: like things like stealing the shit. It was a pretty
- 10:05Speaker 1: cool premise, just didn't wasn't like executed. It wasn't executed
- 10:09Speaker 1: like as like well in my opinion, like I don't know,
- 10:12Speaker 1: I wish it was a little bit different, but it's
- 10:14Speaker 1: still fun. So I need to show you some of
- 10:15Speaker 1: those because those were amazing. It sucks that I kind
- 10:18Speaker 1: of ruined Hammer films right off the back because you're like, well,
- 10:21Speaker 1: this is just rape and like seems a bit extreme,
- 10:24Speaker 1: and I one hundred percent agree with you. But the
- 10:27Speaker 1: other ones were not that not rapy. I mean they
- 10:29Speaker 1: were like stereotypical and you know, hysterical women, you know,
- 10:33Speaker 1: getting slapped. I think that happened in a couple of them,
- 10:35Speaker 1: because that's just what happened. I guess in that time period.
- 10:38Speaker 1: Very weird. It we'll get to hysterical women in this
- 10:42Speaker 1: Actually she wasn't even hysterical. It was Scott's I.
- 10:44Speaker 2: Mean there was like one moment where you're like, ma'am,
- 10:46Speaker 2: this isn't the time.
- 10:46Speaker 1: But other than that, Scott Speedwan was really over dramaticizing
- 10:50Speaker 1: how she was feeling. I feel like her feelings were
- 10:52Speaker 1: very completely warranted in this movie. So yeah, that's what
- 10:57Speaker 1: what you know? What we've been watching this week? Okay,
- 10:59Speaker 1: get over to you. You can talk about what you
- 11:01Speaker 1: watched and give you give us your thoughts and feelings,
- 11:04Speaker 1: and then I'll talk about mine and then we'll talk
- 11:05Speaker 1: about both of ours.
- 11:08Speaker 2: Okay, so my movie that I just watched you but
- 11:10Speaker 2: did I watch. Oh yeah, now, as you know, hocus
- 11:15Speaker 2: Pocus Too came out. That's streaming on Disney Plus. And
- 11:20Speaker 2: we had a little watch party where everyone made them
- 11:22Speaker 2: snack because it was a good time. Um that was
- 11:25Speaker 2: lacking at mine what the lack of themed food?
- 11:28Speaker 1: Yeah? Well I was also in the theater.
- 11:30Speaker 2: Yeah, the theme was popcorn.
- 11:33Speaker 1: I did not get any popcorn last night. Actually, I
- 11:35Speaker 1: got a fucking large, stupid pepsi because they didn't fucking
- 11:38Speaker 1: have coke products.
- 11:39Speaker 2: Get off that train, and you've been talking about it
- 11:41Speaker 2: for twenty.
- 11:42Speaker 1: Four might turn to talk. I'm talking about it.
- 11:45Speaker 2: Okay, So hocus Pocus Too, Yeah, I think a straw
- 11:51Speaker 2: hat Goofy Best described it as corny, like there were
- 11:55Speaker 2: parts that were very funny and then other parts that
- 11:59Speaker 2: were just like they were trying so hard to be
- 12:03Speaker 2: cool or trying so hard to showcase the witches that
- 12:08Speaker 2: they really kind of lost sight of, like the original
- 12:11Speaker 2: vibe of the original film, Like it just they could
- 12:13Speaker 2: have been two completely different franchises for how much they
- 12:17Speaker 2: felt like they blended. And they're the musical numbers felt
- 12:22Speaker 2: really forced and uncomfortable. Like the comedy was good. Uh,
- 12:26Speaker 2: the main characters you didn't really connect with that much
- 12:28Speaker 2: because they were too focused on the Sanderson sisters. I
- 12:34Speaker 2: will say we did have a good chuckle because at
- 12:36Speaker 2: one point, uh, they had the witches looking through windows
- 12:41Speaker 2: for somebody, and one of the windows they look through
- 12:45Speaker 2: is a window with two gay men watching hocus Pocus
- 12:51Speaker 2: like the original. But we were just like, I think
- 12:55Speaker 2: it was will or Brandon go went hey, look, gay
- 12:58Speaker 2: people are like, that's your represent I don't want your
- 13:00Speaker 2: shit out of you. After this, you got two gay
- 13:02Speaker 2: people sitting on the couch. They didn't have dialogue, but
- 13:05Speaker 2: they were cuddling, so you know they're gay.
- 13:08Speaker 1: It was just it was just two guys.
- 13:10Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 13:10Speaker 1: Maybe they were just really good.
- 13:11Speaker 2: Friends and they were best friends.
- 13:13Speaker 1: You don't often cuddle with your girlfriends at.
- 13:16Speaker 2: All, not really, no, but do you.
- 13:22Speaker 1: No, but with your girlfriends and.
- 13:25Speaker 2: Definitely not no, I meant your guy friends.
- 13:28Speaker 1: Uh, I'll take I'll take next subject for two hundred Alex.
- 13:32Speaker 2: There you go. But it was just so funny. You're
- 13:34Speaker 2: like Disney's way of like throwing you breadcrumbs for gay
- 13:39Speaker 2: representation is so bizarre, Like, well, you saw them on
- 13:42Speaker 2: the screen, what more do you want? You want them
- 13:44Speaker 2: to speak afterwards, like what is that?
- 13:47Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, I was kind of shocked that they
- 13:49Speaker 1: even made soul. I was like, wow, this is great
- 13:51Speaker 1: representation because they usually it's just a bunch of white
- 13:54Speaker 1: people in most Pixar movies. They've really been branching out
- 13:57Speaker 1: like Malwana and in Canto. I'm like, this is good. This.
- 14:00Speaker 1: We should have more representation of cultures, not just hey,
- 14:04Speaker 1: look there's a like, you know, a Mexican person or
- 14:06Speaker 1: something like that. Like great, Like why don't we make
- 14:08Speaker 1: it about their culture and you know, or if.
- 14:10Speaker 2: You're not gonna make it about their culture, make them
- 14:13Speaker 2: like add people in who were who were regular everyday
- 14:16Speaker 2: people stop like at using them as a novelty.
- 14:19Speaker 1: Yeah. So I like that they've been kind of showcasing
- 14:21Speaker 1: more like cultures.
- 14:22Speaker 2: It's now they can just do that with the Gaze.
- 14:26Speaker 2: That would be great because seriously, it's like, oh, well,
- 14:29Speaker 2: that character's gay, you know, because he danced with a
- 14:32Speaker 2: man at one point, they had no conversation. You just
- 14:35Speaker 2: have to assume because it was two men touching they
- 14:36Speaker 2: were gay.
- 14:37Speaker 1: Well, you also have to remember when people lost their
- 14:40Speaker 1: absolute shit at Finding Dory when there was that scene
- 14:43Speaker 1: with a lesbian couple.
- 14:44Speaker 2: In it, and fucking.
- 14:46Speaker 1: Dory is voiced by a fucking les like she Ellen
- 14:50Speaker 1: DeGeneres is an actual gay woman and you don't care.
- 14:55Speaker 1: Don't care that she's voicing Dory. But two women on
- 14:58Speaker 1: screen in a fucking animated movie there, and you lose
- 15:00Speaker 1: your mind. Get the fuck over yourself.
- 15:03Speaker 2: Oh my god, I mean to be fair right now.
- 15:06Speaker 2: There's also some lady in Texas who I'm not even kidding.
- 15:10Speaker 2: Apparently one of my relatives posted this on Facebook to
- 15:13Speaker 2: let you know that hocus Pocus they say spells in
- 15:18Speaker 2: that that could.
- 15:20Speaker 1: Let open the gates of heel.
- 15:21Speaker 2: Yeah, and my aposter Okay, so they're going to open
- 15:27Speaker 2: the gates of heel, Yeah, into your home.
- 15:30Speaker 1: You'll do what?
- 15:31Speaker 2: So this woman not only says this, but then one
- 15:34Speaker 2: of my relatives shares this and is like, you have
- 15:36Speaker 2: to be wary of these kinds of films, Like it's
- 15:40Speaker 2: a children's movie where they go to Walgreens and get
- 15:44Speaker 2: upset over like Caramel Apple's real. It is.
- 15:48Speaker 1: Remind me not to have that person ever watchror like
- 15:51Speaker 1: Terrifier or something. God, if hogus Pocus can open the
- 15:56Speaker 1: gates of heel and By the way, heel is an
- 15:58Speaker 1: h e apostrophe L, not h e L, like like
- 16:00Speaker 1: the heel on your foot. If hogus Pocus can open
- 16:03Speaker 1: the gates of hell, then terrifier must be just devil incarnate.
- 16:07Speaker 2: I mean, these are the same people who are worried
- 16:09Speaker 2: about which is prey or spelling candy before giving it out, Like, relax,
- 16:17Speaker 2: take a breath, have a glass of wine or something.
- 16:20Speaker 1: You clearly need to calm down, Brenda.
- 16:22Speaker 2: Take a breath. Nobody gives a shit about your kids.
- 16:25Speaker 2: Nobody's trying to turn them to the devil or anything.
- 16:28Speaker 1: And also, no one's fucking handing out candy with with
- 16:31Speaker 1: drugs in them. Is that is so fucking expensive. You
- 16:35Speaker 1: know how much edibles cost. Edibles are very pricey. They're
- 16:39Speaker 1: not something that's like, oh, let me go get ten
- 16:40Speaker 1: edibles for five bucks or something or like you.
- 16:42Speaker 2: Know, edibles, we're talking one hundred in some dollars.
- 16:46Speaker 1: Yeah, if you if you want to go, get like
- 16:48Speaker 1: a twenty count from like when we went to Portland,
- 16:50Speaker 1: we got edibles there, Like twenty count was like like
- 16:53Speaker 1: thirty or forty dollars. No one's fucking handing that shit
- 16:55Speaker 1: out for free. And then not seeing the kid that's
- 16:57Speaker 1: fucking high. Like what, Also, no.
- 17:00Speaker 2: One's giving drugs to your kids enough people not not
- 17:04Speaker 2: everybody's outdoor to.
- 17:05Speaker 1: Do their own drugs because it's they're they're pricey. So
- 17:09Speaker 1: like good Christ, I love parents, Or check your cad
- 17:12Speaker 1: I mean check your candy for like maybe razor blades
- 17:14Speaker 1: or something. I don't know. People are twisted, but say.
- 17:17Speaker 2: Someone somewhere couldn't be putting something in the drugs. I
- 17:20Speaker 2: promise you it's it's not the potheads and witches don't
- 17:24Speaker 2: care about your kids, can't The.
- 17:26Speaker 1: Potheads would go to do that and then just fucking
- 17:28Speaker 1: get stoned and then forget what they were doing and
- 17:30Speaker 1: then just go back to their raids. The candy like
- 17:34Speaker 1: this is the candy for the trigger treaters. This is
- 17:36Speaker 1: this like edibles for us, and they would just munch
- 17:38Speaker 1: on the all the edibles and get high.
- 17:39Speaker 2: Ship they get the munchies, eat the candy. You're really
- 17:43Speaker 2: making a bold assumption that someone who's that high would
- 17:46Speaker 2: not just eat said candy.
- 17:49Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's just anyway.
- 17:53Speaker 2: Pocus talking about hocus Pocus too. I mean, like I'm
- 17:58Speaker 2: glad I watched it, but it really just didn't capture
- 18:01Speaker 2: the magic of the original, and they it really like
- 18:06Speaker 2: Doug Jones, however, was great.
- 18:07Speaker 1: Doug Jones who dog. Yeah, Doug Jones is always isn't
- 18:11Speaker 1: is one of the people on my National Treasure List.
- 18:14Speaker 2: Yeah, And he got an expanded role in that, so
- 18:17Speaker 2: that was super fun. It was actually really funny to
- 18:19Speaker 2: see how they brought his character back and what that
- 18:22Speaker 2: all was. They just overutilized some things that didn't really
- 18:25Speaker 2: make sense when you consider the last film.
- 18:29Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I only seen I've only seen the
- 18:31Speaker 1: first one like one time, and you know, it's just
- 18:33Speaker 1: one of those movies that has such I think we
- 18:35Speaker 1: said this before probably so sorry if I sound like
- 18:36Speaker 1: a broken record, but it's just one of those movies
- 18:38Speaker 1: like Nightmare Before Christmas, where the following of those movies,
- 18:41Speaker 1: people that are into those movies it is like their
- 18:44Speaker 1: personality and there's something wrong with that, Like, I don't
- 18:46Speaker 1: care if that's your thing, fucking whatever. And I know
- 18:48Speaker 1: I can never match people's excitement for certain types of
- 18:51Speaker 1: movies because they're just super into them, and I'm like,
- 18:53Speaker 1: I can't get into it because of how like not
- 18:56Speaker 1: toxic the fandom is, but how like over there, like
- 18:58Speaker 1: how crazy obsessed with these movies? Like it's it is
- 19:01Speaker 1: literally some people's personalities and you're like, these are great movies,
- 19:03Speaker 1: but like I just don't. I just can't get into
- 19:05Speaker 1: them that much. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know.
- 19:08Speaker 1: There's just some movies that just aren't for me. Those
- 19:10Speaker 1: two are two of the movies I'm just.
- 19:12Speaker 2: Like see, Like for me, I think, I I love
- 19:14Speaker 2: watching hocus Pocus, but I'm not like hocus Pocus fan.
- 19:17Speaker 2: You know, I've got one button up pocus Pocus shirt
- 19:20Speaker 2: and that's it. That's the extent of my stuff for that. Like,
- 19:22Speaker 2: it's a movie I enjoy watching. It's fun. I like
- 19:25Speaker 2: jokes about it, but I'm not like I need everything
- 19:28Speaker 2: hocus Pocus. But we all know that a n i'mare
- 19:32Speaker 2: poor Christmas. It takes a certain personality and those people
- 19:35Speaker 2: are upsetting. Yeah, it makes it hard to watch that
- 19:38Speaker 2: movie because all you can think about is how weird
- 19:40Speaker 2: the fanom can get.
- 19:41Speaker 1: There we go, Yeah, the fandom is just kind of
- 19:43Speaker 1: weird with it.
- 19:44Speaker 2: Uh, Like there's nothing better that's ever been created.
- 19:47Speaker 1: Like exactly, yeah, it really is. This is the best
- 19:50Speaker 1: thing that's ever been made. Like, Okay, I mean it
- 19:52Speaker 1: might it might be in your world, but in my
- 19:54Speaker 1: world it is just like it is a great movie.
- 19:56Speaker 1: I respect like what it is. It's just not something
- 19:59Speaker 1: that I really particularly I'm interested in.
- 20:01Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the.
- 20:02Speaker 1: Exercise, I love, it's great respect for it, but just
- 20:05Speaker 1: not really into it.
- 20:06Speaker 2: Yeah. I think for me, hocus Pocus two is gonna
- 20:09Speaker 2: be one of those movies that like, I'm really not
- 20:11Speaker 2: gonna put on again. Like like if we had a kid,
- 20:13Speaker 2: for instance, and I needed some Halloween movies to put on,
- 20:17Speaker 2: I'd probably put like that would probably be one, but
- 20:19Speaker 2: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna personally be like I
- 20:22Speaker 2: gotta watch hocus Pocus too.
- 20:23Speaker 1: Yeah, other than like you know, Slasher, So we need
- 20:26Speaker 1: something kid friendly, then oh yeah.
- 20:27Speaker 2: Them, like they would be one of those Oh I
- 20:29Speaker 2: need a kid friendly film, let's put that on.
- 20:32Speaker 1: I got I've got to make dinner, and Homie wants
- 20:34Speaker 1: to watch a movie. Here you go, little Bud.
- 20:36Speaker 2: Yeah, turn that shit on, because frankly, it's less scary
- 20:39Speaker 2: than hocus Pocus one, because I mean there's some mildly
- 20:42Speaker 2: like mild terror in hocus Pocus that was not an
- 20:46Speaker 2: issue hocus Pocus too. You felt genuinely unthreatened by the witches.
- 20:50Speaker 1: If you rated them, I mean did you? I mean
- 20:52Speaker 1: I know you rate it. Did you rate the second
- 20:53Speaker 1: one at least? Or what would you.
- 20:57Speaker 2: Like? Two and a half? Three?
- 20:58Speaker 1: Oh?
- 20:58Speaker 2: Wow, It's just it wasn't like vibing. There were parts
- 21:01Speaker 2: we were laughing at, but mostly we were laughing about
- 21:03Speaker 2: how weird. It was like there was a massive plug
- 21:06Speaker 2: for Walgreens in it and rumbas well.
- 21:08Speaker 1: And I've told you this too, or we were talking
- 21:10Speaker 1: about it earlier when I was like, if these movies
- 21:13Speaker 1: that have been made, you know, twenty thirty years ago,
- 21:16Speaker 1: that you know there's a huge cult following two or whatever,
- 21:19Speaker 1: like Dumb and Dumber. This is the perfect example. Dumb
- 21:22Speaker 1: and Dumber was made in like nineteen ninety four, nineteen
- 21:23Speaker 1: ninety five and the heyday of Jim Carrey when he
- 21:25Speaker 1: was doing fucking everything, and they did well. They did too,
- 21:28Speaker 1: Dumb or whatever like Dumb and Dumber two, I think,
- 21:31Speaker 1: which was the ones that didn't have them in there.
- 21:33Speaker 1: So stupid fucking choice there first of all, And it
- 21:36Speaker 1: was not that great. There was some funny lines in it,
- 21:38Speaker 1: but that was about it, but then they did you know,
- 21:40Speaker 1: dumb uh, dumb and dumb. Oh no, no, sorry, no, no, it
- 21:43Speaker 1: was dumb and dumb er er. That was the one
- 21:45Speaker 1: that didn't have Jim Carrey in it. And then they
- 21:47Speaker 1: did Dumb and Dumber two t O and it's like, okay,
- 21:50Speaker 1: it was it was funny. It's it's still felt like
- 21:52Speaker 1: the original, but like they were just oh, you know,
- 21:55Speaker 1: they had to kind of up themselves from the first one,
- 21:57Speaker 1: and they were already chaotic in that one, so they're
- 21:59Speaker 1: kind of over acting and a lot of the jokes
- 22:02Speaker 1: didn't land, and you know, they're not the same exact
- 22:04Speaker 1: character they were when they originally did the movie, like
- 22:07Speaker 1: you know, so it's just like, I feel like that's
- 22:08Speaker 1: how this went for you. With hocus Pocus. It's just
- 22:10Speaker 1: like it's just like there's so much time in between,
- 22:13Speaker 1: and they have these expectations a little up too, and
- 22:15Speaker 1: then it's like kind of hard to you know, make
- 22:17Speaker 1: like something that good again, I guess, is what I'm
- 22:19Speaker 1: trying to say.
- 22:20Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and I think something that hocus Pocus Too
- 22:23Speaker 2: also suffered from the fact that if you think about
- 22:26Speaker 2: how many people knew that the Witches came back thirty
- 22:29Speaker 2: years ago, it was three people, a cat, and a
- 22:32Speaker 2: zombie because everybody else was spelled so they wouldn't really
- 22:36Speaker 2: remember that. So this film spent a lot of time
- 22:40Speaker 2: vaguely recalling the previous film without really acknowledging it, Like
- 22:46Speaker 2: one character acknowledges that he saw the events of the film,
- 22:51Speaker 2: but like the Witches barely acknowledged that that happened. And
- 22:55Speaker 2: because nobody else really remembers it, there's no upping of
- 22:58Speaker 2: the stakes or anything, if any thing. The stakes feel
- 23:00Speaker 2: lower because their motivations have changed entirely, so it's more
- 23:04Speaker 2: like we've got to stop them, not like, holy crap,
- 23:07Speaker 2: I hope they don't need us.
- 23:08Speaker 1: And then they get super meta and they have hocus
- 23:10Speaker 1: Pocus one playing in the movie.
- 23:12Speaker 2: The same people dressed as characters from Hocus posts.
- 23:15Speaker 1: It's like, why are we getting? What is this scream?
- 23:17Speaker 2: And people dressed as the Sanderson sisters in the film
- 23:21Speaker 2: in a Sanderson's Sister look like contest, which is weird
- 23:24Speaker 2: because that implies that somebody saw them to know what
- 23:26Speaker 2: their outfits looked like.
- 23:28Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 23:31Speaker 2: It was It was too they were trying too hard
- 23:33Speaker 2: to try to like remind you how fun hocus Pocus is.
- 23:37Speaker 1: Hey, Like, remember this movie that's a direct sequel to
- 23:40Speaker 1: the original. Do you remember every part about that?
- 23:43Speaker 2: Everything you liked?
- 23:44Speaker 1: We're gonna remind you. Yeah, okay, what would you give
- 23:46Speaker 1: the original?
- 23:47Speaker 2: Then? Oh? The original? I give like a three and
- 23:49Speaker 2: a half or something like. It has that whimsical magic
- 23:51Speaker 2: that makes it fun. They're just a little bit of
- 23:53Speaker 2: like there's a little bit of terror to it because
- 23:57Speaker 2: you know, the kids are in actual danger, they know
- 24:00Speaker 2: the town's in danger, like and and you don't know
- 24:03Speaker 2: how they're gonna achieve their goals. They actually have to
- 24:06Speaker 2: think in craft plans and it like it. It felt
- 24:09Speaker 2: it has more of a childlike energy to it. And
- 24:12Speaker 2: it feels like this one a story, not like a
- 24:16Speaker 2: cash grap.
- 24:17Speaker 1: Did this one just feel like it was made for
- 24:18Speaker 1: adults that watched it when they were younger? Yeah, okay, yep,
- 24:22Speaker 1: I got just.
- 24:23Speaker 2: It didn't have that whimsical nature like it literally started
- 24:25Speaker 2: with a pop song, whereas hocus Pocus two started or
- 24:30Speaker 2: hocus Pokes Too started with a pop song, where the
- 24:32Speaker 2: originals started more with like, you know, spooky music and
- 24:37Speaker 2: stuff like they weren't worried about capturing the whimsie. They
- 24:40Speaker 2: were just really wanting you to know that it was
- 24:42Speaker 2: a hocus Pocus movie.
- 24:43Speaker 1: Well, you can put this in comparison, which is this
- 24:46Speaker 1: is a really skewed like letterbox thing. You've got, uh
- 24:50Speaker 1: what is that threes and fours almost at the same
- 24:53Speaker 1: height and then fives are almost at the same height
- 24:55Speaker 1: as the two three and a half. It's very weird.
- 24:58Speaker 1: So it's got a three to five on letter your
- 25:00Speaker 1: original and then the sequel it had a three to
- 25:03Speaker 1: four the other day. Now it's not down all the
- 25:05Speaker 1: way to with three one, so that should speak for
- 25:08Speaker 1: itself right there. But I mean, the director has done
- 25:12Speaker 1: some good stuff. You know, twenty seven dresses step up
- 25:14Speaker 1: the proposal, so she's done some you know, she does
- 25:16Speaker 1: some good stuff.
- 25:17Speaker 2: Yeah, I like twenty seven dresses in the proposal.
- 25:19Speaker 1: Yeah, proposal was hilarious. Ryan Reynolds and uh Windows, CenTra
- 25:23Speaker 1: Bullock Wall Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, anything else on that
- 25:29Speaker 1: one now, okay, so that's ogus fogus too streaming on
- 25:33Speaker 1: Disney Plus, I did not see something that was streaming,
- 25:36Speaker 1: although plenty of stuff has come out. Let me just
- 25:38Speaker 1: plug those real quick. Dead Stream is a found footage
- 25:41Speaker 1: movie that just released on Netflix or WHOA Hello, Shutter Sorry,
- 25:46Speaker 1: which I believe it's either a Shutter original or a
- 25:48Speaker 1: Shutter exclusive, one of those two, I think, And that
- 25:51Speaker 1: looks like a lot of fun eighty seven minutes that
- 25:54Speaker 1: came out the sixth, I believe. So you've got dead Stream,
- 25:58Speaker 1: You've got hell Razor, which dropped to day Dave. Yeah,
- 26:01Speaker 1: David Bruckner's Hell Raiser, which has a three three. By
- 26:05Speaker 1: the way, that's fantastic because the original has a three five,
- 26:08Speaker 1: So that means this obviously, I mean, I know I'm
- 26:11Speaker 1: gonna like this one more. So that's really good to
- 26:13Speaker 1: see Hell Raiser almost having the same amount as the
- 26:16Speaker 1: original because that you know, people fucking adore that movie,
- 26:20Speaker 1: so for it to almost be up there with it,
- 26:22Speaker 1: that says really good things because that means the people
- 26:25Speaker 1: that like the old one like this one. And I
- 26:27Speaker 1: really didn't like the old one. This has been said.
- 26:28Speaker 1: This has been said multiple times, So I am stoked
- 26:31Speaker 1: to see this. So we're gonna try to watch that
- 26:32Speaker 1: this weekend. But what I watched was a movie that
- 26:34Speaker 1: came to theaters in a limited release, and it was
- 26:36Speaker 1: terrified too. I saw it with a shout out to
- 26:40Speaker 1: Rick Stazinski and Don He is one of my buddies
- 26:45Speaker 1: that has he runs thirteen Next Studios. He makes custom
- 26:49Speaker 1: Jason masks. He's been on the podcast before. We had
- 26:51Speaker 1: a whole chat with thirteen Next Studios. A lot of
- 26:53Speaker 1: a lot of fun. He's a great guy. But he's
- 26:55Speaker 1: actually has a small little role in that movie. He
- 26:58Speaker 1: plays selfie guy where he comes out of the crowd
- 27:00Speaker 1: in this club and says, yo, girl, let me get
- 27:01Speaker 1: a selfie and takes a selfie and then you think
- 27:03Speaker 1: he says like fuck yat girl or something like that.
- 27:05Speaker 1: So he's in there for about like, you know, like
- 27:06Speaker 1: ten or fifteen seconds. But him and a whole bunch
- 27:09Speaker 1: of people of you know, a whole bunch of his friends,
- 27:11Speaker 1: I mean, hant Steam was their shout out to Johnny Bronto.
- 27:14Speaker 1: You know, a whole bunch of my spooky friends were
- 27:16Speaker 1: there and it was a lot of fun. Okay. So,
- 27:21Speaker 1: like I'm obviously gonna be like critical here, and it's
- 27:24Speaker 1: not that okay, let me just say this for the
- 27:25Speaker 1: like starting out, It's not that I did not like
- 27:27Speaker 1: this movie. I absolutely loved the movie like it was fantastic.
- 27:32Speaker 1: It is just about on par with the original for me,
- 27:34Speaker 1: except for the fact that two and a half hours
- 27:37Speaker 1: is just too fucking long for a slasher movie. It's just,
- 27:41Speaker 1: at least in my opinion, two and a half hours
- 27:43Speaker 1: we're talking that is that is longer than Hereditary at
- 27:46Speaker 1: two o two it is just as long as Midsomar.
- 27:49Speaker 1: And then you know the director's cut of Midsomar's three hours.
- 27:51Speaker 1: Two and a half hours for a movie that is
- 27:53Speaker 1: literally about a killer clown, is it's just too long.
- 27:55Speaker 1: I mean, okay, it is essentially the same you know,
- 27:59Speaker 1: about a killer clown, but.
- 28:00Speaker 2: There's a big ass book.
- 28:01Speaker 1: But yeah, number one, it is a huge book. Number two,
- 28:06Speaker 1: there's a lot of source material. And number three it's
- 28:09Speaker 1: you know, Stephen King. So it's just and that's not
- 28:12Speaker 1: that's not a slasher movie, you know, it is much
- 28:15Speaker 1: more psychological and creepy and relies on very like thrilling
- 28:20Speaker 1: tense moments and shit. But when you already have an
- 28:23Speaker 1: established character like Art the clown, who you know is
- 28:26Speaker 1: just out for blood and gory fucking kills, we don't
- 28:29Speaker 1: really need to spend a lot of time on plot
- 28:32Speaker 1: and dialogue, which there was a very hefty amount of both.
- 28:35Speaker 1: Like they really got into these characters and flesh them out,
- 28:38Speaker 1: which is great, and it's not like I didn't mind
- 28:40Speaker 1: the character arcs, but it's just like for me, that's
- 28:43Speaker 1: not necessary. Slashers need to be no more than an
- 28:45Speaker 1: hour and forty five minutes, ideally ninety minutes or less.
- 28:48Speaker 1: Like eighty six minutes was the original run time for Terrifier.
- 28:51Speaker 1: Fucking perfect. There's like two minutes of intro and then
- 28:54Speaker 1: they just get into it. You know. He finds the
- 28:56Speaker 1: girls in the street and chases the girls down all
- 28:58Speaker 1: night and killing them, and then one of the you
- 29:01Speaker 1: know survivors is one of the you know, you don't
- 29:03Speaker 1: see her being the final girl, but she's the final girl.
- 29:05Speaker 1: And it's perfect. You're in and out. It's very gory.
- 29:09Speaker 1: I love the kind of like not guerrilla style filmmaking,
- 29:12Speaker 1: but it's just like it's very gritty, you know what
- 29:13Speaker 1: I mean, Like it just look it looks like an
- 29:15Speaker 1: Ani film and not a bad thing, like I love it,
- 29:17Speaker 1: but this one, at two and a half hours, it's
- 29:20Speaker 1: just too long. And not that I was even bored
- 29:22Speaker 1: with anything or that that I felt that it dragged.
- 29:24Speaker 1: It's just like it's two and a half hours. It's
- 29:27Speaker 1: just too long for me. And like I said, when
- 29:30Speaker 1: you're focusing more on plot and character development and a slasher,
- 29:33Speaker 1: that's kind of when I just like, I don't know.
- 29:35Speaker 1: We're all here to see art rip people in half.
- 29:38Speaker 1: That's what we want. And David Howard Thornton did an
- 29:40Speaker 1: amazing job, you know, as following up his role from
- 29:43Speaker 1: the first one. The kills were utter insanity, Like I
- 29:47Speaker 1: cannot wait for you to see this, I don't think.
- 29:49Speaker 1: To me, I don't really think there's there's one that
- 29:52Speaker 1: almost I think almost matches the saw in half. But
- 29:54Speaker 1: I don't think anything is ever gonna top being literally
- 29:56Speaker 1: solid in half from your lady parts to your you
- 29:59Speaker 1: know face. That's one of the most horrific things I've
- 30:02Speaker 1: ever seen. And even you were like, I think this
- 30:04Speaker 1: is the I think this is gonna be a one
- 30:05Speaker 1: time watch for me.
- 30:06Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because when I saw it, I had seen
- 30:08Speaker 2: that clip before, so I already knew what it was,
- 30:11Speaker 2: but I didn't know what it was. And Heather and
- 30:14Speaker 2: Will were watching that movie. I walked in and said, Hey,
- 30:18Speaker 2: isn't it isn't this that movie? And they're like and
- 30:22Speaker 2: and they're like, what movie? And then that starts happening.
- 30:24Speaker 2: I was like, yep, there it is. This is that
- 30:27Speaker 2: movie and that's the only time I've watched that, so.
- 30:30Speaker 1: Well then I think you watched it with me. But yeah,
- 30:33Speaker 1: there's one there's one kill. I'm not gonna give it
- 30:35Speaker 1: away obviously, but it is like I was impressed with
- 30:39Speaker 1: how fucking real this shit looks. I mean, they had
- 30:42Speaker 1: to think they're a GoFundMe or Kickstarter or whatever. God.
- 30:45Speaker 1: They wanted like I think a fifty or one hundred
- 30:47Speaker 1: thousand dollars. They ended up getting like two hundred and
- 30:49Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars, so they you know, they wanted to
- 30:52Speaker 1: use that money, and you know, they made a long movie.
- 30:55Speaker 1: It was exactly the way Damien wanted it to be.
- 30:58Speaker 1: Damien Leoni, the director, you know, there was nothing cut out.
- 31:01Speaker 1: He's like, this is the film I set out to do,
- 31:04Speaker 1: and this is this is what I want to put out.
- 31:06Speaker 1: And I'm kind of surprised that somehow it went to theaters.
- 31:09Speaker 1: Like no, it's not rated, it's unrated. It's fucking gorious shit. So,
- 31:14Speaker 1: like I said, at The End of the Day is
- 31:16Speaker 1: a solid movie. Obviously, I'm gonna watch it again because
- 31:19Speaker 1: I have some questions about certain things that I need Again,
- 31:22Speaker 1: I need your fucking genius help with because I'm wondering
- 31:26Speaker 1: the motivation for art because he seems to attack this family. Oops. Wow,
- 31:30Speaker 1: he seems to attack this family, but like the mother
- 31:33Speaker 1: and daughter are the mother and son are at home
- 31:35Speaker 1: and the daughter is out at a party. Yet he
- 31:36Speaker 1: somehow manages to get to both of them, you know
- 31:40Speaker 1: what I mean. It's like, what about that? Why were
- 31:42Speaker 1: you specifically after this family? Was it just kind of
- 31:44Speaker 1: random luck? Like, I don't understand the motivation because the
- 31:46Speaker 1: motivation the first one very straightforward. He just sees the
- 31:49Speaker 1: girl in the streets and decides to chase them down
- 31:51Speaker 1: and kill them, you know, simple motivation. This I didn't
- 31:54Speaker 1: really get it. But the continuity from the ending of
- 31:57Speaker 1: the first one and the beginning of this one is like,
- 32:00Speaker 1: oh my god, I was so you like you know
- 32:02Speaker 1: when you watch movies and like in a series and
- 32:05Speaker 1: they just pick right up. Yeah, that's exactly what this
- 32:08Speaker 1: one did. And it was so satisfying to see the
- 32:10Speaker 1: continuity with the eye at the end because his eyes
- 32:13Speaker 1: all fucked up at the end of the first one
- 32:15Speaker 1: that was there, and then he's attacking the guy at
- 32:18Speaker 1: the end of them. It's just it was so perfectly fluid.
- 32:20Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, I did enjoy
- 32:22Speaker 1: it and I did like it. I want to rewatch
- 32:23Speaker 1: it with you because I have seen of your thoughts
- 32:25Speaker 1: and feelings. But I just wish it was shorter, like
- 32:29Speaker 1: at least forty five minutes shorter. It's yeah, it's just
- 32:31Speaker 1: too long. And like I said, it's not me saying
- 32:33Speaker 1: the movie is bad and anyway, it's just I don't know,
- 32:35Speaker 1: it's just a bit. It's just a bit too long
- 32:37Speaker 1: for me. But I don't know if they're gonna do
- 32:39Speaker 1: any more showtimes of that. I think no.
- 32:41Speaker 2: What I read online was that they're doing kind of
- 32:43Speaker 2: a film, because I looked it up to see if
- 32:45Speaker 2: it would be streaming anywhere. Supposedly the director wanted to
- 32:50Speaker 2: do something like a on the road tour. We're so
- 32:54Speaker 2: they're gonna do theater stops and then after that is
- 32:57Speaker 2: when it should be strong.
- 32:58Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, yeah. But I saw a thing that
- 33:01Speaker 1: someone posted today. I think I think it was dread
- 33:03Speaker 1: Central or bloody discussing that in one night of all,
- 33:06Speaker 1: you know, because the it started opening small and then
- 33:08Speaker 1: it just got such a following that people like were
- 33:10Speaker 1: requesting it and it just started They went to like
- 33:12Speaker 1: eight hundred theaters nationwide and made four hundred thousand dollars
- 33:16Speaker 1: and one night. That's for an indie fucking movie that
- 33:19Speaker 1: only costs about two fifty. They pretty much doubled their
- 33:22Speaker 1: money on that. So like, that is very impressive that
- 33:25Speaker 1: and I love the support of the horror community because
- 33:28Speaker 1: like everyone that went to see that went to see that.
- 33:31Speaker 1: They weren't just like, oh, let me see what's happened.
- 33:33Speaker 1: I mean, I guarantee very few people were like, oh,
- 33:34Speaker 1: I wonder what's at the movies? Ooh what's this? Let's
- 33:36Speaker 1: go see that. It was probably it was most of
- 33:38Speaker 1: them were like our whole entire theater was dedicated, Like
- 33:40Speaker 1: everyone was wearing an art shirt almost like I say,
- 33:43Speaker 1: fifty percent of the people had a terrified shirt on
- 33:45Speaker 1: or something. It was awesome. So yeah, hopefully they'll do more.
- 33:48Speaker 1: If they do more, then you know it'll come to streaming.
- 33:50Speaker 1: But definitely a solid film. I'm gonna obviously recommend it.
- 33:53Speaker 1: It's it's a lot of fun. Just be prepared going
- 33:56Speaker 1: into that. It is. It is a lot very gory.
- 34:00Speaker 1: Guess we should talk about this one really quickly. I mean,
- 34:02Speaker 1: it's not really much to talk about it.
- 34:03Speaker 2: It's it's kind of a brisk film.
- 34:05Speaker 1: So yeah, it's kind of a brisk film. But we
- 34:07Speaker 1: saw Smile last weekend.
- 34:11Speaker 2: I don't know, Oh, I thought you meant the main movie.
- 34:13Speaker 2: I sorry, I didn't realize Smith Smile.
- 34:14Speaker 1: No, uh yeah, Smile. We saw Smile in theaters over
- 34:17Speaker 1: the weekend, I believe, And it's just absolutely floored all
- 34:21Speaker 1: three of us, me, you and Spencer walked out of
- 34:23Speaker 1: that movie just like that's gonna stick with me. And
- 34:26Speaker 1: also that was one of, like one of the best
- 34:28Speaker 1: horror movies this year. Yeah, I am so surprised.
- 34:30Speaker 2: It was unexpected. That's what I'd seen a lot of
- 34:32Speaker 2: people say it was. It was unexpected. You kind of thought,
- 34:35Speaker 2: based on the trailer you were gonna get Jen a
- 34:37Speaker 2: horror movie, which is fine.
- 34:38Speaker 1: Yeah, I really thought that, like, and just.
- 34:40Speaker 2: The way they approached it and the mord started to
- 34:45Speaker 2: evolve into something different was really unexpected. And honest to god,
- 34:51Speaker 2: you could not have pulled that ending out of like
- 34:54Speaker 2: you just could not have seen that ending coming. And
- 34:58Speaker 2: I'm not like saying you don't know how it's gonna end,
- 35:01Speaker 2: but I'm saying, like the what they did at the
- 35:05Speaker 2: ending was so out of left field for that type
- 35:08Speaker 2: of movie that we were all like, what the hell.
- 35:11Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because they give you a huge like they
- 35:13Speaker 1: give you a fake out essentially. Yeah, I won't say
- 35:16Speaker 1: anything more about it, but yeah, they do really give
- 35:18Speaker 1: you a good fake out and uh yeah, complete complete
- 35:22Speaker 1: tonal shift because you're like, oh, this is gonna be
- 35:25Speaker 1: this is thumbs up, this is kind of what I
- 35:26Speaker 1: leaned over to you and said, this is exactly what's
- 35:28Speaker 1: gonna happen. And then it did. I'm like, oh cool.
- 35:30Speaker 1: But then you're just like, oh, I was not ready.
- 35:33Speaker 2: For that go down.
- 35:35Speaker 1: It's not prepared for any of that.
- 35:38Speaker 2: And I will say just a warning deals heavily with suicide,
- 35:43Speaker 2: ye and self harm and trauma, so like, if that's
- 35:47Speaker 2: triggering for you, like this film deals very heavy, heavily
- 35:51Speaker 2: with that and in no way is it positive, So
- 35:54Speaker 2: just be really prepared for that, because like I could
- 35:58Speaker 2: see this being really rough on someone who had no
- 36:00Speaker 2: idea that that's what was going on.
- 36:01Speaker 1: Someone actually asked one of the horror groups. They were like,
- 36:04Speaker 1: I've been seeing that this deals with kind of trauma
- 36:06Speaker 1: and stuff like that, and people who were you know,
- 36:08Speaker 1: like depressed, maybe shouldn't watch it. And I comment that
- 36:10Speaker 1: I was like one percent. I was like, if you
- 36:12Speaker 1: are not good mentally right now, or you kind of
- 36:14Speaker 1: have you know, like moods or whatever, like if you're
- 36:17Speaker 1: dealing with any sort of like trauma and shit, it's
- 36:19Speaker 1: like please. I was like, yes, please, please do not
- 36:21Speaker 1: go see this because like you really need to be
- 36:23Speaker 1: in the like a good headspace going into this.
- 36:25Speaker 2: Yeah. It deals heavily and trauma and depression and very
- 36:29Speaker 2: strong feelings of hopelessness. So it's not like a.
- 36:34Speaker 1: It's not a light movie. It's a fucking heavy movie.
- 36:36Speaker 2: You can watch horror movies when you're in a certain
- 36:39Speaker 2: head space, but like they don't relate to you. This
- 36:42Speaker 2: is one that if you were not doing well mentally
- 36:45Speaker 2: this or just not a great head space, this would
- 36:47Speaker 2: not be helpful.
- 36:48Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's actually it was interesting too because they
- 36:52Speaker 1: so they had such a good message for trauma going
- 36:55Speaker 1: and like the way the ending was happening. I was like,
- 36:58Speaker 1: this is such a good lie, like fucking undertone of
- 37:01Speaker 1: like trauma and dealing with it. And then they kind
- 37:03Speaker 1: of undo that a little bit, which I knocked it for. Yeah,
- 37:08Speaker 1: because I was like this, I was like, this is
- 37:10Speaker 1: literally a perfect movie. I had no issues with it
- 37:13Speaker 1: until you know, they kind of undid the you know,
- 37:17Speaker 1: trauma stuff, and I was like, if you just didn't,
- 37:20Speaker 1: if you just ended the movie at this point, it
- 37:22Speaker 1: would have been a perfect, flawless movie. And I'm kind
- 37:24Speaker 1: of mad, but I'm also I'm I'm glad.
- 37:28Speaker 2: Easy.
- 37:29Speaker 1: Yeah, it would have been too easy. And that was
- 37:30Speaker 1: a ballsy ending, Like that was a ballsy as shit
- 37:33Speaker 1: and it so please go see that. We saw it
- 37:35Speaker 1: in Dolby. Highly recommended if it's in Dolby in your area.
- 37:38Speaker 1: That was very intense because there's it is very jump scary,
- 37:42Speaker 1: which is fine if it's done right. This is an
- 37:44Speaker 1: example of a movie that did jump scares perfectly. So
- 37:46Speaker 1: fucking spooky, So go see that. Definitely go see that.
- 37:49Speaker 1: Let's get onto this movie though, because we're like, like
- 37:52Speaker 1: I said, somehow we're filling up so much time.
- 37:54Speaker 2: Yes, but fortunately The Strangers doesn't have a bunch of things.
- 37:57Speaker 2: There's a lot of standing and staring around.
- 37:59Speaker 1: No, you're right, yeah, which so there's not gonna be
- 38:01Speaker 1: a lot to talk about anyways. But yeah, what else
- 38:04Speaker 1: is coming out next week? That's Halloween Ends. We'll talk
- 38:06Speaker 1: about that later.
- 38:07Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we're gonna watch We're gonna start checking out
- 38:09Speaker 2: Chucky and Plannagan.
- 38:11Speaker 1: Show Midnight Club.
- 38:12Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, so we're gonna start checking out those
- 38:15Speaker 2: this weekend.
- 38:15Speaker 1: Chucky season two just came out on the fifth, and
- 38:18Speaker 1: I've got season one behind me. Actually, I want to
- 38:20Speaker 1: just grab that while I'm here.
- 38:21Speaker 2: Yeah, because we're like, you know what, since season takes that,
- 38:24Speaker 2: we should really watch it before we start seeing spoilers,
- 38:26Speaker 2: just like we have to watch she Hilt tonight before
- 38:29Speaker 2: we get any more spoilers because it came out yesterday
- 38:32Speaker 2: and people cannot stop themselves.
- 38:34Speaker 1: No they can't. I know that. I don't know if
- 38:37Speaker 1: you want to join me on this, but I'm gonna watch.
- 38:39Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna watch Halloween Hills before ends, because
- 38:42Speaker 1: one I already watched the first. I watched Halloween twenty eighteen. Two.
- 38:45Speaker 1: I really want to give this one another chance and
- 38:47Speaker 1: see if it does anything better for me. I'm really
- 38:50Speaker 1: resistant to doing this. I'm surprised I even fucking bought it,
- 38:54Speaker 1: so I want to do that before. So if you
- 38:55Speaker 1: want to join me, fine, and I'm gonna all report
- 38:57Speaker 1: back on that.
- 38:58Speaker 2: Uh what my phone buzzed in my back pocket.
- 39:01Speaker 1: And then real quick, speaking of Halloween, I did just
- 39:04Speaker 1: get this in the mail today from Screen Factory. It
- 39:06Speaker 1: is the Halloween four K collection nineteen ninety five to
- 39:09Speaker 1: two thousand and two, which includes Curse of Halloween, h
- 39:11Speaker 1: two Oer, and Halloween Resurrection in hard cases, just like
- 39:15Speaker 1: Halloween one through five that came out last year. It
- 39:17Speaker 1: really sucks that you had to buy this in a
- 39:19Speaker 1: set because I probably wouldn't have bought six or eight
- 39:22Speaker 1: because those are literally my two least favorite Halloweens. And
- 39:25Speaker 1: this one also comes in a fucking box too, when
- 39:27Speaker 1: the first five didn't come in a box. So now
- 39:29Speaker 1: I have to not use this because it's gonna look
- 39:31Speaker 1: stupid on the shelf. So fucking just gonna sell this,
- 39:34Speaker 1: I guess, but excited to check these out in the
- 39:36Speaker 1: four K. Just really wish they did atmost. But whatever,
- 39:38Speaker 1: Halloween ens is next week, so I'm getting excited for that.
- 39:41Speaker 1: Hopefully it is just all I'm asking for is just
- 39:44Speaker 1: better than our kills. That's it. Even if it's a
- 39:47Speaker 1: fucking half star better, I don't care. Just give me
- 39:50Speaker 1: a good ending Halloween movie, you know, yeap. Jamie Lee
- 39:54Speaker 1: also said she was down to do more, and I'm like,
- 39:56Speaker 1: you said this was your last one.
- 39:58Speaker 2: You have to stop saying these things.
- 40:00Speaker 1: It probably keeps showing up with dump trucks full of
- 40:01Speaker 1: cash at our house and like, so one more, maybe
- 40:04Speaker 1: four more? So yeah, anyways, let's get onto this movie.
- 40:07Speaker 1: It is The Strangers, as the title of this episode
- 40:09Speaker 1: is called, from two thousand and eight. I can't believe
- 40:12Speaker 1: this movie is fourteen years old at this point, already
- 40:15Speaker 1: released on May thirtieth of that year in the USA,
- 40:18Speaker 1: rated R for mild sex and nudity, severe violence, and gore,
- 40:21Speaker 1: which I don't really think it's that severe, moderate profanity,
- 40:24Speaker 1: mild alcohol, drugs and smoking, and severe and intense scenes.
- 40:28Speaker 1: This has a run time, which is a lie. It
- 40:31Speaker 1: says one hour twenty six minutes. Now the theatrical cut,
- 40:34Speaker 1: I believe that checked in it was like one twenty
- 40:36Speaker 1: five and change, so that's accurate. But the back of
- 40:39Speaker 1: the screen factory blu ray that I have says ninety
- 40:43Speaker 1: one minutes for the Unrated cup but when I put
- 40:45Speaker 1: it the disc in, it was like one twenty seven
- 40:47Speaker 1: to nine, and I'm like, howfec's four extra minutes you're
- 40:50Speaker 1: cutting off? So I got excited because I was like, ooh,
- 40:51Speaker 1: six extra minutes of movie, but apparently it was only two.
- 40:55Speaker 1: I don't know which one I've seen before. I assumed theatrical,
- 40:58Speaker 1: but I couldn't tell.
- 40:58Speaker 2: You've seen them both because I had I had the
- 41:00Speaker 2: unrated DVD.
- 41:01Speaker 1: I can tell you that I know the extra scene
- 41:03Speaker 1: that was in there, so I'm assuming I've only seen
- 41:05Speaker 1: the regular one. But I liked that they I liked
- 41:07Speaker 1: a little added scene that they have in there. Listed
- 41:09Speaker 1: as a horror mystery thriller directed by Brian Bertino, he
- 41:13Speaker 1: only has four directing credits. He also did The Monster,
- 41:16Speaker 1: a twenty four movie, and The Darken The Wicked, which
- 41:19Speaker 1: is a movie that came out last year, I believe,
- 41:21Speaker 1: or the year before, which is one of my favorites
- 41:24Speaker 1: of the year. I believe that was like a four
- 41:25Speaker 1: four and a half from me, also written by Brian
- 41:28Speaker 1: Bertina six writing credits. Same movies. He directed The Monster
- 41:31Speaker 1: dark in the Wicked, and then he also wrote Strangers
- 41:34Speaker 1: Prey at Night, which is the sequel to this movie,
- 41:36Speaker 1: composed by Tom and Andy all one word, very weird
- 41:40Speaker 1: and lowercase. It's like yasimba, like all lowercase, no no capitals,
- 41:44Speaker 1: it's weird. Seventy nine. Composer. Credits also did in p two,
- 41:48Speaker 1: which is a movie we've done on the podcast and
- 41:50Speaker 1: really love. Resident Evil Afterlife forty seven meters down and
- 41:53Speaker 1: Haunt so he's well, they are he or them or whatever.
- 41:56Speaker 1: They are well versed in the horror community. Cinematography by
- 42:01Speaker 1: Peter Sova forty two cinematographer. Credits also did Sergeant Bilko
- 42:05Speaker 1: Bilker Yeah, and Push from two thousand and nine, so
- 42:08Speaker 1: wildly different movies and especially throwing this one into the mix.
- 42:11Speaker 1: Those are three different genres. You have Pushed, which is
- 42:14Speaker 1: like a sci fi fantasy, right, and then you have
- 42:16Speaker 1: Sergeant Bilko, which is a straight comedy, and then you
- 42:18Speaker 1: have this which is a horror movie.
- 42:19Speaker 2: And I think cinematography genius. I think Sergeant Bilco.
- 42:23Speaker 1: Sargint Bilcho is great. You showed me that one recently.
- 42:26Speaker 2: Such a weird movie. It's so funny.
- 42:28Speaker 1: Threw in the editor on this only because I recognize
- 42:32Speaker 1: the name, and which is very I really only know
- 42:35Speaker 1: one editor like, and it's Kevin Gruder because he's a god.
- 42:38Speaker 1: He's got twenty editing credits. Also did Saw one through
- 42:41Speaker 1: five in Jigsaw, he directed Saw six and seven, and
- 42:44Speaker 1: he's actually credited right now to be directing Saw ten,
- 42:47Speaker 1: so they're keeping it in the family, which makes me
- 42:49Speaker 1: very happy because Kevin Gruder is fucking awesome. I love
- 42:51Speaker 1: his editing style. He's just a very very well done
- 42:55Speaker 1: I can I can almost immediately tell when a movie
- 42:57Speaker 1: is edited by Kevin Gruder, just because he has a
- 42:59Speaker 1: very no noticeable style. Starring Scott Speedman as Jeans Hoyt
- 43:04Speaker 1: forty five acting credits. Was also in Underworld as Michael
- 43:07Speaker 1: and the Monster directed by Brian as well as Roy
- 43:11Speaker 1: We've Got Lived Tyler as Kristin McKay thirty nine acting credits,
- 43:15Speaker 1: which when I read that, I was very surprised. I
- 43:17Speaker 1: was like, wow, only thirty nine. I thought she'd been
- 43:19Speaker 1: in Yeah, of course she does. And she's probably made
- 43:22Speaker 1: fucking bookoo bucks from Lord of the Rings, so I mean, like,
- 43:24Speaker 1: probably could have retired after that.
- 43:27Speaker 2: Probably not women have a serious paid disparity.
- 43:29Speaker 1: But you know, well, okay, so she was you know,
- 43:32Speaker 1: she's Lord of the Rings is Arwin, and the Incredible
- 43:35Speaker 1: Hulk is Betty Ross. We've got Glenn Howardton as Mike,
- 43:38Speaker 1: who is most notably Dennis Reynolds and it's always sunny
- 43:40Speaker 1: in Philadelphia and he's in about four seconds of this movie.
- 43:44Speaker 1: We've got Jim Award's doll face. The only thing I
- 43:46Speaker 1: could find that she was in was Great Gatsby is
- 43:48Speaker 1: Languid Girl. And then Kip Weeks is the man in
- 43:51Speaker 1: the Mask. Nothing notable he was in, and then Laura
- 43:53Speaker 1: Margolaz's Pin Up Girl. Again really nothing notable that she
- 43:55Speaker 1: was in. Either. Budget of nine million dollars worldwide box
- 43:59Speaker 1: office gross eighty two point four million, which is what
- 44:01Speaker 1: you would call a hit. This movie was filmed in
- 44:04Speaker 1: Timminsville and Florence, South Carolina. You can watch it currently
- 44:07Speaker 1: on Amazon Prime for a three ninety nine rental or
- 44:09Speaker 1: a four ninety nine purchase. So when I ever see that,
- 44:12Speaker 1: if I'm going to rent a movie and that's the
- 44:13Speaker 1: difference in buying it, I'm gonna buy it. I have
- 44:16Speaker 1: it on Blu Ray though, and you can also get
- 44:17Speaker 1: the Blue Ray off Amazon for ten dollars. Movies that
- 44:20Speaker 1: came out around the same time. We've got Iron Man,
- 44:23Speaker 1: Speed Racer, Chronicles of Narnia, Prince Caspian, Indiana, Jones and
- 44:27Speaker 1: the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, Kung Fu Panda, The Happening,
- 44:31Speaker 1: The Incredible Hulk, and Wally. Just a smattering of wildly
- 44:35Speaker 1: bad and good movies. I mean like Prince Prince Castivan, eh,
- 44:39Speaker 1: Crystal Skull and Kung Fu Panda. Fuck yeah, Happening No, no, No,
- 44:42Speaker 1: Incredible Hulk eh. Like it's such a like it's it's
- 44:45Speaker 1: so skewed, it's very weird. But yeah, a lot of good,
- 44:49Speaker 1: good titles in there as well. Specific horror moments. What
- 44:52Speaker 1: did you have?
- 44:54Speaker 2: Oh boy, I mean there are so many.
- 44:57Speaker 1: Well, yeah, but if you could pick like one or two,
- 44:59Speaker 1: I've got I think.
- 45:00Speaker 2: It's the same one that you were gonna pick with
- 45:02Speaker 2: the I think it's honestly the smoke detector. After she
- 45:08Speaker 2: knocks it down and she's kind of been wandering around
- 45:10Speaker 2: and someone's banging on the door, and then it's like
- 45:12Speaker 2: on the chair that she had used to get it down,
- 45:14Speaker 2: but it was on the floor before. Because that's what
- 45:17Speaker 2: you don't. That's when she realizes that someone's been in
- 45:19Speaker 2: the house.
- 45:20Speaker 1: Well yeah, and you don't see anybody do it, So
- 45:22Speaker 1: you're experiencing it with her, which is always a fun
- 45:24Speaker 1: tactic to do in filming when you when the audience
- 45:27Speaker 1: doesn't know everything, but then they do. Then then they
- 45:29Speaker 1: have moments like mine, which is the guy standing behind
- 45:32Speaker 1: her when the first time you see the man in
- 45:33Speaker 1: the mask in the house behind liv Tyler, she has
- 45:35Speaker 1: no idea that he's there, and it's just very fucking
- 45:38Speaker 1: spooky because you don't see anybody break in. And I
- 45:41Speaker 1: think that's why I like this movie so much. A
- 45:42Speaker 1: lot of people I've read reviews on find it kind
- 45:45Speaker 1: of boring and the fact that it's just people standing
- 45:47Speaker 1: around in masks, But like, if you actually put yourself
- 45:49Speaker 1: in that scenario of a home invasion where you're being
- 45:52Speaker 1: toyed with and not just killed, that's fucking horrifying. Someone
- 45:55Speaker 1: just literally messing with you and scaring the ever loving
- 45:58Speaker 1: shit out of you in an isolated how in the
- 46:00Speaker 1: middle of nowhere, that is horrifying. So for me, it
- 46:02Speaker 1: really works on the tension and that scene when he
- 46:05Speaker 1: just walks in, it's just like it's just my whole boty,
- 46:07Speaker 1: like just I'm like puckered up, like that's all I
- 46:09Speaker 1: can do. And then the other one I really enjoyed
- 46:12Speaker 1: was when the uh I think it was Pin Up
- 46:14Speaker 1: Girl or no, when Dolphace, when Glenn comes you know,
- 46:17Speaker 1: Glen Howardson comes into the house, and then she just
- 46:19Speaker 1: emerges from the pitch black like forest line. It's just like, oh,
- 46:23Speaker 1: they're always watching you in this movie. Favorite kill probably
- 46:27Speaker 1: the same one as me. There's only like three Yeah,
- 46:32Speaker 1: that would be shotgun to the face. So fucking upsetting
- 46:36Speaker 1: every time. Every time I think I know when it's
- 46:38Speaker 1: gonna happen, it always happens before.
- 46:39Speaker 2: So stressed. As soon as I know it's coming, Yeah.
- 46:42Speaker 1: It happens like it happens just either right before right after.
- 46:46Speaker 1: I'm like, it's gonna happen. Yeah, it's very stressful. I'm
- 46:49Speaker 1: not a fan of it. Favorite character Do you have
- 46:53Speaker 1: a favorite character?
- 46:55Speaker 2: No, really, not like anyone. I'm super like, uh, you know,
- 47:02Speaker 2: committed to then that one.
- 47:03Speaker 1: I'm just gonna pick Glenn because it's Dennis.
- 47:06Speaker 2: He's apparely in it. But yeah, it's my favorite character.
- 47:09Speaker 1: It's Dennis. It's like Hey, it's that guy. Ever been
- 47:11Speaker 1: sending filling because just like you said, it's literally just
- 47:13Speaker 1: like they just threw Dennis Reynolds in here. You know.
- 47:16Speaker 2: It's just we're so used to seeing him, Like I'm
- 47:18Speaker 2: wondering what his ulterior motive is God, just like, even
- 47:22Speaker 2: though that's not not his character.
- 47:24Speaker 1: My tools, tools, what are those? Dennis?
- 47:28Speaker 2: He did bring a tool, it just didn't help him.
- 47:30Speaker 1: It did not help him, least favorite character. It's probably
- 47:33Speaker 1: the same for us, Scott Speedman. Yeah, fucking just yeah. No,
- 47:38Speaker 1: he's like he's like victim shaming or what am I
- 47:41Speaker 1: trying to say is what is he doinglighting? That's what
- 47:44Speaker 1: it is.
- 47:44Speaker 2: Yeah, the whole the whole time, she's literally like they're
- 47:47Speaker 2: calling him and being like I need help, and he's like,
- 47:51Speaker 2: I don't see anybody. Great people move around like just
- 47:55Speaker 2: because they're not standing directly in front of you, Like
- 47:58Speaker 2: he no matter what that poor woman says, like what
- 48:01Speaker 2: she's experienced, He's like, well, I didn't experience it, so
- 48:04Speaker 2: it must not be real.
- 48:05Speaker 1: I didn't see it. It could not be true because
- 48:07Speaker 1: you are not a man like Jesus. Really it is.
- 48:11Speaker 2: It's like telling her to calm down. The only time
- 48:13Speaker 2: she really gets super hysterical is once, and then she
- 48:17Speaker 2: is the appropriate amount of scared the rest of the film.
- 48:20Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not like she's just being actually like just
- 48:22Speaker 1: crazy and hysterical. She's like, people are here, and it's like,
- 48:26Speaker 1: what are we doing? I'm terrified, I'm horrified. Yeah. Yeah,
- 48:30Speaker 1: So Lea's favorite character definitely Scott Speedben Gaslighting, son of
- 48:32Speaker 1: a bitch, let's see here, didn't have a favorite line,
- 48:37Speaker 1: but I did replace that with a favorite just moment
- 48:40Speaker 1: that wasn't specifically horror, and that's when he just heats
- 48:42Speaker 1: the chair at the door. Fucking hilarious. Don't know what
- 48:45Speaker 1: the plan was there, not sure his intentions, but he
- 48:48Speaker 1: did sure fucking throw the ever loving shit out of
- 48:50Speaker 1: that chair right at the door, the small hole in it,
- 48:54Speaker 1: with a small hole in it. Yeah, I told you.
- 48:55Speaker 1: I was like, maybe he was hoping for a leg
- 48:56Speaker 1: to pop through and just bash the guy in the nose.
- 48:58Speaker 1: I don't fucking know, uh IMDBs summary is a young
- 49:02Speaker 1: couple staying in an isolated vacation home are terrorized by
- 49:04Speaker 1: three unknown assailants. Short sweetened to the point, so let's
- 49:08Speaker 1: get into this review here, and then uh, I've gotten notes,
- 49:11Speaker 1: so I'll just I'll raise my hand when I have
- 49:13Speaker 1: something to interject with, so I don't cut you off, okay,
- 49:16Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna say where are your shoes? About
- 49:18Speaker 1: seven times?
- 49:19Speaker 2: Okay? Uh so what noise are you making?
- 49:23Speaker 1: Oh? Sorry is crack man knuckles?
- 49:25Speaker 2: Sorry now I have to crack my knuckles.
- 49:28Speaker 1: What I'm sorry?
- 49:29Speaker 2: You fuck now, I'm thinking about it. I have to
- 49:32Speaker 2: do it.
- 49:32Speaker 1: It's like yawning. It's contagious. Must must crack fingers.
- 49:36Speaker 2: Okay, So we start out with it kind of starts
- 49:39Speaker 2: with a nine one one call and a narration about
- 49:42Speaker 2: how much what was it at one point four million
- 49:47Speaker 2: violent crimes happened?
- 49:49Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh okay, that well I remember. I sorry, I
- 49:51Speaker 1: forgot what it just says, Uh, what you're spot sees
- 49:53Speaker 1: iss pired by true events. According to the FBI, there
- 49:55Speaker 1: are an estimated one point four million crimes in America
- 49:58Speaker 1: each year. And what's the fact that you looked up?
- 50:01Speaker 2: Oh? I was trying to look that up because I
- 50:02Speaker 2: was like, that number seems wild. And then like in
- 50:05Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, it was like seven hundred thousand weeks.
- 50:08Speaker 2: So did crime just go down or what happened?
- 50:11Speaker 1: What's going on here? This is I feel like this
- 50:14Speaker 1: is inaccurate.
- 50:15Speaker 2: Because I feel like crime has to have gone up
- 50:16Speaker 2: at this point properly. But yeah, So it starts with
- 50:21Speaker 2: that in a nine to one one call and screaming and.
- 50:26Speaker 1: What no, no, So I'm not even I'm just I'm sorry,
- 50:29Speaker 1: I'm looking at something on my phone.
- 50:30Speaker 2: So then it cuts to Scott Speedman live Tyler in
- 50:34Speaker 2: a car and she's crying and they're at this house
- 50:41Speaker 2: and it's very awkward like that. He seems very upset,
- 50:44Speaker 2: she's crying, and you're not really sure what's going on,
- 50:48Speaker 2: but like they're dressed up like they've been at a
- 50:50Speaker 2: really nice party or something. And then they go inside
- 50:55Speaker 2: the house where there are rose petals everywhere and candles
- 50:59Speaker 2: and champagne. She's kind of getting the feeling that something
- 51:02Speaker 2: was supposed to be happening that's not happening, and so
- 51:08Speaker 2: she excuses herself to go take a bath and then
- 51:14Speaker 2: weirdly enough, put the same dress back on.
- 51:15Speaker 1: But whatever, Sometimes your clothes aren't dirty, man, but you
- 51:19Speaker 1: just feel gross, so you gotta take a shower.
- 51:21Speaker 2: I think she said that she liked to she wanted
- 51:23Speaker 2: to wear it longer because it made her feel pretty.
- 51:25Speaker 1: I thought she was talking about the ring, because that's
- 51:28Speaker 1: why I said, that's a weird thing to make you
- 51:30Speaker 1: feel pretty. But was it the dress?
- 51:31Speaker 2: I don't know, Yeah, because she didn't put the ring
- 51:33Speaker 2: until late. So yeah, she takes a bath and it
- 51:39Speaker 2: kind of flashes over to where we see that he
- 51:42Speaker 2: had proposed to her earlier in the evening and she
- 51:45Speaker 2: said no because she wasn't ready.
- 51:48Speaker 1: Perfect time for a bump bump bum. That's sad.
- 51:52Speaker 2: So yeah, he's clearly very upset. He's calling his friend Glenn.
- 52:00Speaker 1: But his name Glenn, Uh close enough, it is his
- 52:04Speaker 1: real life name is Glenn. His name is Mike.
- 52:06Speaker 2: Yeah, well I haven't called any of them by their
- 52:08Speaker 2: name at this point.
- 52:08Speaker 1: Fine, we're gonna go with speed We're gonna go with
- 52:10Speaker 1: tug Speedman, Live to Live and then.
- 52:13Speaker 2: Uh Glenn Scott Speedman.
- 52:15Speaker 1: No Tugger Tugger nuts.
- 52:17Speaker 2: Wow Like anyway, so uh, he calls his buddy Glenn
- 52:22Speaker 2: and uh, Glenn leaves him a voicemail like, hey, can
- 52:25Speaker 2: you come pick me up here? Like because they're a
- 52:28Speaker 2: house that's just kind of in the middle of nowhere.
- 52:30Speaker 2: They're like Hey, can you just come pick me up
- 52:31Speaker 2: in the morning when you get up. Things didn't go
- 52:34Speaker 2: as planned or whatever, and I just want to get
- 52:38Speaker 2: out of here. So she he helps himself to an
- 52:42Speaker 2: entire tub of Bluebelt ice cream.
- 52:44Speaker 1: Oh my god, that was so funny, just the whole
- 52:47Speaker 1: tahole gallon or whatever they used to measure of the
- 52:50Speaker 1: court and just like fucking drowning my sorrows one scoop
- 52:54Speaker 1: at a time.
- 52:55Speaker 2: Yeah, So he does that. She comes out, sits down,
- 52:58Speaker 2: and they kind of talk, and she's trying to explain herself,
- 53:02Speaker 2: like because she obviously cares. She just wasn't ready, which
- 53:07Speaker 2: we talked about how I feel like you should have
- 53:10Speaker 2: kind of put out feelers to see if someone's ready
- 53:12Speaker 2: before you propose, not just assume they're ready, because if
- 53:14Speaker 2: someone's been through something traumatic or something, which of course
- 53:17Speaker 2: we don't know in this film, they might not be
- 53:19Speaker 2: ready well.
- 53:20Speaker 1: And also, but like you know, if you're asking, and
- 53:23Speaker 1: see it from my side, if you're asking, then you
- 53:25Speaker 1: obviously are getting the vibes, you know what I mean.
- 53:28Speaker 1: I mean, in most situations, I would have seem I'm
- 53:30Speaker 1: sure sometimes people do it as like a last ditch effort.
- 53:32Speaker 1: But in most cases, if you're if you're proposing, then
- 53:35Speaker 1: you are getting the feeling that they are into it.
- 53:37Speaker 1: But yes, you should. I agree, you should, you know,
- 53:39Speaker 1: kind of try to test it out, but.
- 53:41Speaker 2: Put it, put it out there, just kind of float
- 53:44Speaker 2: out some feelers on that one, just to see how
- 53:46Speaker 2: it goes.
- 53:46Speaker 1: You're not wrong, but you know. Yeah.
- 53:49Speaker 2: So yeah, So she's clearly sad and he is upset,
- 53:54Speaker 2: so he puts a record on and she comes over
- 53:58Speaker 2: to comfort at him, and then comforting turns into let's
- 54:04Speaker 2: do it now, and uh you do Yeah, so, uh,
- 54:10Speaker 2: they're gonna do it, And as they're about to, someone
- 54:15Speaker 2: bangs on the door, so they go and answer it
- 54:17Speaker 2: because it's odd. It's the middle of the night, like
- 54:19Speaker 2: it's four a m.
- 54:20Speaker 1: Yeah, like cop knock too, like fucking goose goog Like wow, okay.
- 54:24Speaker 2: Yeah, uh so which school though is because it's so late.
- 54:27Speaker 2: This really only takes place in the matter of a
- 54:29Speaker 2: few hours. But so yeah, some someone's at the door
- 54:35Speaker 2: and the porch lights are out suspicious, so he Scott
- 54:40Speaker 2: tries to turn him on. It doesn't work. Uh. The
- 54:42Speaker 2: girl asks if Tamra is there, and they're like no,
- 54:48Speaker 2: we don't know who that is, and uh.
- 54:51Speaker 1: At four in the morning at my doorstep.
- 54:54Speaker 2: Yeah, So she leaves and they're like, that was odd.
- 54:56Speaker 2: He builds a fire for live Tyler and he's like,
- 55:01Speaker 2: I got to run out. I'll be back. I don't
- 55:03Speaker 2: even remember why the hell he ran out.
- 55:05Speaker 1: And that's when, you know, I looked at you and said,
- 55:08Speaker 1: bold move leaving your well, I said, wife, but you know,
- 55:12Speaker 1: didn't know you didn't say uh. And then that's when
- 55:14Speaker 1: I laughed and said that's probably why he left her
- 55:16Speaker 1: because she said no. But yeah, I was like, bold
- 55:18Speaker 1: move to leave her there alone when you just had
- 55:20Speaker 1: a weird encounter with someone at the door that you
- 55:22Speaker 1: both should have just that is the moment when you go, hey,
- 55:26Speaker 1: the car is working, we're leaving.
- 55:28Speaker 2: Honestly, it should have been a red flag because not
- 55:31Speaker 2: someone showing up at your house at random in the
- 55:33Speaker 2: middle of nowhere, because like, shit happens, Yeah, but showing
- 55:36Speaker 2: up and then you the only way you can get
- 55:38Speaker 2: the porch lights back on is screwing the bull back in.
- 55:41Speaker 1: And then the fact that she says, Okay, see you later.
- 55:43Speaker 1: I mean, I know that's an expression that people say,
- 55:46Speaker 1: but no.
- 55:47Speaker 2: You know what this all adds up to.
- 55:49Speaker 1: Wrong In this situation, you should say Okay, thanks bye,
- 55:51Speaker 1: not see you later. That implies Okay, I don't really know,
- 55:56Speaker 1: I don't want to see you later, stranger.
- 55:58Speaker 2: Yeah, So he's like, I'm gonna run out, I'll be back.
- 56:02Speaker 2: She kind of sets a sets up a song for
- 56:06Speaker 2: herself on the record player, and she, uh live, decides
- 56:10Speaker 2: to try on the ring and should I just call.
- 56:14Speaker 1: Them mother names? It doesn't, It doesn't doesn't say liven Tugger,
- 56:19Speaker 1: nuts's whatever.
- 56:20Speaker 2: Yeah, So she tries on the ring and it's kind
- 56:23Speaker 2: of meandering around the house and then like people start
- 56:27Speaker 2: banging on the door. It's real weird. Uh, they won't
- 56:30Speaker 2: stop banging on the.
- 56:31Speaker 1: Door, stop knocking. It's very rude.
- 56:33Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it's it's aggressive. So she's kind of uncomfortable
- 56:36Speaker 2: about it. She goes to get her phone to plug
- 56:39Speaker 2: it in, but it's dead, so she's getting freaked out.
- 56:42Speaker 2: She plugs it in and she goes and changes into
- 56:45Speaker 2: different clothes because running around in address would be silly. However,
- 56:52Speaker 2: running around barefoot not silly.
- 56:55Speaker 1: Wear your shoes literally.
- 56:57Speaker 2: At one point, this man says, put on your shoes.
- 57:00Speaker 2: She never does. That you're in danger and you're just
- 57:03Speaker 2: gonna not put shoes on.
- 57:04Speaker 1: You've got liv Tyler not putting on shoes and the strangers.
- 57:07Speaker 1: You've got the one chick from Jurassic World in fucking
- 57:10Speaker 1: high heels running sprinting through the like the forest. What
- 57:14Speaker 1: is with women in shoes and movies?
- 57:16Speaker 2: I don't it's because of the women are sexier in heels,
- 57:23Speaker 2: so they just put them in heels, no matter how
- 57:25Speaker 2: impracticate it.
- 57:26Speaker 1: Well, and it's I think I think I don't even
- 57:28Speaker 1: think I think there was a character choice on behalf
- 57:29Speaker 1: of the chick playing. I think she said she wanted
- 57:31Speaker 1: to do I don't think she was made to do that.
- 57:32Speaker 1: I think she just did it, which is like fucking
- 57:34Speaker 1: impressive to be able to sprint at full full run.
- 57:38Speaker 2: I think they were gonna have her kick off the
- 57:39Speaker 2: shoes and she was like, Nawn, yeah, yeah, yeah you can.
- 57:42Speaker 2: I've run in heels.
- 57:44Speaker 1: I've seen you do it in the movie. It's and
- 57:45Speaker 1: it's always impressive. Probably my favorite part about that.
- 57:48Speaker 2: Movie the fact me running in heels.
- 57:50Speaker 1: No, the fact that she could do that.
- 57:51Speaker 2: Bryce Bryce, Bryce Dallas Howard almost a dice browis' that's
- 57:55Speaker 2: not it. Uh, so, yeah, she's starting to get freaked out.
- 58:02Speaker 2: She uh live uses it, goes off and uses the
- 58:08Speaker 2: house phone, I believe.
- 58:09Speaker 1: Well, she tries to use the cell phone, but it's dead,
- 58:11Speaker 1: so she plugs it in and then then picks up that.
- 58:14Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think she like goes to do something else,
- 58:17Speaker 2: like goes to get a drink or something, but then
- 58:19Speaker 2: the uh the buyer. Sorry, there's a couple of things
- 58:22Speaker 2: that happened really close to each other, so the order
- 58:25Speaker 2: is a little blurry.
- 58:26Speaker 1: Nothing happens, but I can't remember the order.
- 58:28Speaker 2: A lot of stuff happens, uh real quickly.
- 58:30Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 58:31Speaker 2: So yeah, she notices that there's smoke coming in because
- 58:35Speaker 2: the smoke detector starts going off, and she, uh, there's
- 58:41Speaker 2: smoke coming in through the top of the chimney, like
- 58:43Speaker 2: it shouldn't be coming in, Like someone closed it, like
- 58:46Speaker 2: close the top of the chimney if you don't know.
- 58:48Speaker 2: Inside a chimney, there's a little thing that opens and
- 58:50Speaker 2: closes to let air out. So that's been closed. So
- 58:54Speaker 2: she goes over there to open it and tries to
- 58:57Speaker 2: get the smoke detector. She not She pulls a chair
- 58:59Speaker 2: over to it, knocks it off. The ceiling and she
- 59:04Speaker 2: was like, that's super weird, and then people won't stop
- 59:07Speaker 2: banging on stuff again.
- 59:09Speaker 1: Really uh.
- 59:12Speaker 2: She calls Scott's character and is like, I need you
- 59:17Speaker 2: to come back. Like there, I think there are people
- 59:19Speaker 2: are outside. There's some weird shit happening. She gets herself
- 59:23Speaker 2: a knife. She goes to get a glass of water,
- 59:28Speaker 2: which is where we see that the people are clearly
- 59:31Speaker 2: already in the house and you know, they don't really
- 59:35Speaker 2: like she doesn't notice they're there, but they're definitely already
- 59:39Speaker 2: in there, and they're freaking around and she show like
- 59:43Speaker 2: they're still banging, so she gets Yeah, she gets the knife,
- 59:46Speaker 2: and then she goes to the front door where they're
- 59:48Speaker 2: banging on the door, and that's when she notices the
- 59:51Speaker 2: smoke detector sitting on the chair that she had where
- 59:55Speaker 2: when it used to be on the floor. So she
- 59:58Speaker 2: like hauls ass into the back bedroom is hiding and
- 1:00:05Speaker 2: with a knife, like freaking out trying to turn off
- 1:00:08Speaker 2: the light in the room, cuts her hand open doing that.
- 1:00:11Speaker 2: I'm still not entirely sure how she did that. That
- 1:00:14Speaker 2: was the craziest light turning off I've ever seen. And
- 1:00:19Speaker 2: that is when Scott Captain unhelpful shows up, and uh, honestly,
- 1:00:25Speaker 2: I think minus the gun, she would have fared better.
- 1:00:28Speaker 1: Herself, probably because but there was a funny thing that
- 1:00:32Speaker 1: I thought in my head, like when they were all
- 1:00:34Speaker 1: banging at the door and it was like she was
- 1:00:36Speaker 1: going through it by herself. All I kept thinking was
- 1:00:39Speaker 1: just her blurting out, my boyfriend will be here any second,
- 1:00:42Speaker 1: and he's gonna be pissed when he finds out he's
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: big and he plays football, and he'll kick the shit
- 1:00:46Speaker 1: out of you. I just kept thinking of Drew Barrymore
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: from Scream. I'm just like, why can't she just say
- 1:00:51Speaker 1: this right now? Yeah? But then when when Scott's speeding
- 1:00:55Speaker 1: comes in, that's actually a really good fake out because
- 1:00:57Speaker 1: you're obviously thinking it's gonna be the killer, but then
- 1:00:59Speaker 1: he walks. It's just it's just such a simple, uh
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: thing to do, But it was just it's just very effective.
- 1:01:05Speaker 2: Yeah. What's crazy, though, is she's clearly terrified. She's got
- 1:01:08Speaker 2: a knife in her hand. She sliced her other hand open.
- 1:01:11Speaker 1: Yeah you think, do you think I'm making this ship
- 1:01:13Speaker 1: up just for shits and gigs? Bro?
- 1:01:15Speaker 2: And uh so she's like saying, there are people out here.
- 1:01:19Speaker 2: I like I saw them through the curtains, like, and
- 1:01:22Speaker 2: I think they're inside, that they've been in the house,
- 1:01:24Speaker 2: because like I've seen like stuff moved around, like there's
- 1:01:29Speaker 2: someone here. And he's like, I didn't see anybody. Well, damn,
- 1:01:33Speaker 2: I guess because you didn't see them, they must not
- 1:01:35Speaker 2: be real. Yeah, And he's pretty much just downplaying everything
- 1:01:39Speaker 2: she's saying, like there, I don't see anybody in the house.
- 1:01:42Speaker 2: Like they go to look through the house together, don't
- 1:01:44Speaker 2: see anything. So he's like, there's no one in here, yeah.
- 1:01:47Speaker 1: Because he literally is like we checked the house. There's
- 1:01:49Speaker 1: no one here. Like they couldn't possibly have been in
- 1:01:51Speaker 1: and out through a fucking.
- 1:01:53Speaker 2: Door, Like have you not heard of doors? Sir?
- 1:01:56Speaker 1: Do you not know what that? Doors exist and you
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: can exit and enter else it's this way, No way,
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: they've been in and out already. They're not here now, Yeah,
- 1:02:03Speaker 1: they're not here.
- 1:02:04Speaker 2: So it's kind of crap. He kind of just blows
- 1:02:06Speaker 2: her off because she even goes to get her phone
- 1:02:09Speaker 2: when she's getting terrorized and someone's cut the power cord.
- 1:02:11Speaker 2: But when she plugged that in like off on its own, exposed.
- 1:02:16Speaker 2: I was like, dude, if this was happening to me
- 1:02:18Speaker 2: and my phone was dying. First off, that almost never happens.
- 1:02:21Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:02:21Speaker 2: Second of all, I would be charging that in a
- 1:02:25Speaker 2: room with a door that I could secure myself inside
- 1:02:28Speaker 2: of and not leave my phone as far away from
- 1:02:31Speaker 2: me and as exposed as possible.
- 1:02:33Speaker 1: You get a thrown in the fire of meeny do that.
- 1:02:34Speaker 1: And I think it's hilarious that they did that with
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: her phone, because it's not They could have easily just
- 1:02:38Speaker 1: taken that and she could have been like, where was it.
- 1:02:40Speaker 1: They're like, no, no, no, we want you to see that
- 1:02:41Speaker 1: it's broken. We're gonna put it in the fire so
- 1:02:43Speaker 1: we can you know, you can see it smoldering.
- 1:02:45Speaker 2: Like. That's also she left it charging next to the fire,
- 1:02:47Speaker 2: so that would have been the most convenient thing to do,
- 1:02:49Speaker 2: is just pop it into the fire.
- 1:02:50Speaker 1: It was just funny that they didn't just take it,
- 1:02:52Speaker 1: and they were like, we want you to see that
- 1:02:53Speaker 1: we burnt your phone. Yeah, it is not gonna work anymore.
- 1:02:58Speaker 2: But yeah, they like. He's like, okay, well, my phone's
- 1:03:02Speaker 2: in the car, so I'll go get it. And she's
- 1:03:04Speaker 2: like seriously, they're outside, like you can't leave. You're like, well,
- 1:03:07Speaker 2: apparently they're also inside, So I'm not sure why either
- 1:03:10Speaker 2: one of those options is better?
- 1:03:11Speaker 1: Am I fucking speaking Spanish over here? Woul do you
- 1:03:14Speaker 1: not understand? Scott speedman? God damn it.
- 1:03:16Speaker 2: So he goes out where he sees that his car's
- 1:03:20Speaker 2: tires have been slashed the like window knows I've all
- 1:03:25Speaker 2: been smashed and completely. He's just like, I still don't
- 1:03:28Speaker 2: see anybody, so like, yep, that just happened magically to
- 1:03:31Speaker 2: your car while you were gone. He goes to look
- 1:03:34Speaker 2: for his phone, can't find his phone. One of the
- 1:03:36Speaker 2: people casually brushes his neck.
- 1:03:38Speaker 1: It's super weird, and then just and then is like,
- 1:03:42Speaker 1: what's that fairly fast guy? Uh? Michael, what felf? Now?
- 1:03:46Speaker 1: That's a swimmer hustain Bolt, that fucking chicken. The mask
- 1:03:49Speaker 1: is just like ustain Bolt's boom gone because she turns
- 1:03:52Speaker 1: around and she's fucking nowhere to be seen, and then
- 1:03:55Speaker 1: ends up like one hundred yards down the road. I'm like,
- 1:03:58Speaker 1: how fast are you running away? Because he spins around
- 1:04:01Speaker 1: immediately and you're like, where did you run to?
- 1:04:03Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 1:04:04Speaker 1: Quick as fuck?
- 1:04:05Speaker 2: So what's I think? It's fucked up? Though? Is like
- 1:04:07Speaker 2: she's obviously an appropriate amount of terrified. As we've said,
- 1:04:11Speaker 2: she is scared. She is like, don't do anything stupid.
- 1:04:14Speaker 2: He's like, no, I'm a man, I will be doing
- 1:04:17Speaker 2: everything I have an impulse to do.
- 1:04:19Speaker 1: My masculinity is so fragile and uh.
- 1:04:22Speaker 2: So he does this and he literally does not believe
- 1:04:27Speaker 2: her that anyone has been in this house until he
- 1:04:30Speaker 2: sees his own phone with the battery gone, sitting on
- 1:04:33Speaker 2: the piano. Then he believes they've been in the house. Finally,
- 1:04:40Speaker 2: then he decides to get the gun. Uh. He finds
- 1:04:43Speaker 2: his parents' gun. He's like going to look for bullets
- 1:04:46Speaker 2: with her, and he's like, you need to put shoes on,
- 1:04:48Speaker 2: and she's.
- 1:04:49Speaker 1: Like, nah, fuck that, where are your shoes? Lift Tyler,
- 1:04:53Speaker 1: where are they?
- 1:04:55Speaker 2: So he he's like looking around for uh the bullets
- 1:05:01Speaker 2: and everything for this shotgun, and she's like saying, He's
- 1:05:06Speaker 2: like I don't really know how to put this together
- 1:05:07Speaker 2: and I've never shot this. She goes, you said you
- 1:05:10Speaker 2: used to go hunting with your dad and he's like, yeah, no,
- 1:05:13Speaker 2: I just said that, and you're like, you know you went.
- 1:05:16Speaker 2: At first You're like I feel kind of bad for Scott.
- 1:05:18Speaker 2: He's so hurt, and you're like, well, first off, you
- 1:05:20Speaker 2: don't believe a damn thing she says, And second off,
- 1:05:22Speaker 2: apparently you're just making up weird lies. Hunting is not
- 1:05:26Speaker 2: something you need to feel compelled to lie.
- 1:05:28Speaker 1: Yeah, and his masculinity is extremely fragile. It's paper.
- 1:05:31Speaker 2: Then yeah, it's like, now I kind of feel bad
- 1:05:33Speaker 2: for her because you're mad at her, but apparently you're
- 1:05:36Speaker 2: full of shit.
- 1:05:37Speaker 1: Yeah, I wrote down, you know, Scott's Tugger lied about
- 1:05:40Speaker 1: using a gun, but can literally justify gaslighting Livedyler the
- 1:05:44Speaker 1: entire time and telling her she's hysterical. Class at guy
- 1:05:48Speaker 1: right there, solid ten out of ten guy would recommend
- 1:05:51Speaker 1: to friends. So, uh, Jesus, your head out of your ass,
- 1:05:54Speaker 1: Tugger nuts.
- 1:05:56Speaker 2: Yeah, they have a point where the guy, the one
- 1:06:01Speaker 2: guy in the mask, starts like hatchet or like axing
- 1:06:04Speaker 2: through the door. They push a piano in that and
- 1:06:06Speaker 2: that's the only time Live screams like a crazy person,
- 1:06:09Speaker 2: like ma'am.
- 1:06:10Speaker 1: I think I would too, that's a natural reaction.
- 1:06:12Speaker 2: Yeah, and then they fire a gun at him, which
- 1:06:15Speaker 2: weirdly enough makes them take a step back.
- 1:06:19Speaker 1: WHOA, I didn't know this was that serious. Didn't see
- 1:06:21Speaker 1: the gun in the house. Let me just back out.
- 1:06:23Speaker 2: Yeah. So Live and Scott decide they are going to
- 1:06:26Speaker 2: uh hold themselves up in a place like getting somewhere
- 1:06:30Speaker 2: that they can secure themselves with no extra doors or
- 1:06:33Speaker 2: windows and then just have a door in front of
- 1:06:36Speaker 2: them so that way, you know, they they have protection.
- 1:06:40Speaker 2: They they have the gun, they have all that, they
- 1:06:42Speaker 2: have a shit ton of ammunition. Great spot to be in.
- 1:06:45Speaker 2: Very smart move. Unfortunately, this is when Glenn decides to
- 1:06:50Speaker 2: be a good friend and show up at the in
- 1:06:53Speaker 2: the middle of the fucking night. Yeah. And what was
- 1:06:57Speaker 2: beautiful though, is when they feel is Glenn. You think
- 1:07:01Speaker 2: the guy with the only guy and the three killers,
- 1:07:05Speaker 2: he is casually sneaking up on Glenn because the second
- 1:07:09Speaker 2: Glenn gets there, someone smashes out his windshield and he's like,
- 1:07:12Speaker 2: what the fuck? So he gets his I think it's
- 1:07:16Speaker 2: like a tire iron or something like that. Yes, yeah,
- 1:07:21Speaker 2: objects or like a crowbar or something like that.
- 1:07:23Speaker 1: Objects to bludgeon somebody with.
- 1:07:25Speaker 2: Yeah, which again smart move. Uh. So he goes into
- 1:07:32Speaker 2: the house to go looking for them. He's kind of
- 1:07:34Speaker 2: sees everything's going on, like the place is a wreck.
- 1:07:37Speaker 2: He's like, what the hell's happening here? So you see
- 1:07:40Speaker 2: the guy in the mask sneaking up behind him with
- 1:07:43Speaker 2: an axe.
- 1:07:44Speaker 1: And you're like, oh shit, yeah, he's up his game
- 1:07:46Speaker 1: from a butcher knife to a fucking huge axe.
- 1:07:49Speaker 2: Yeah. And unfortunately, by this time you've forgotten that Live
- 1:07:54Speaker 2: and Scott are hanging out in front of our behind
- 1:07:57Speaker 2: some stuff with a gun pointed at the doorway oreo,
- 1:08:01Speaker 2: which is when they bloke Glenn's face right off his body. Yeah,
- 1:08:05Speaker 2: which was really unfortunate for Glenn, but an amazing kill
- 1:08:09Speaker 2: because they give you just enough time to kind of
- 1:08:11Speaker 2: forget that that.
- 1:08:12Speaker 1: Yeah, they really do, per do not long, not long,
- 1:08:15Speaker 1: but just but just enough time because then you get yeah,
- 1:08:18Speaker 1: because you get focused on Glenn and you're like, Okay,
- 1:08:20Speaker 1: what's gonna happen with him? And then and then they
- 1:08:22Speaker 1: set it out for him to be killed by man
- 1:08:23Speaker 1: man in mask and that doesn't happen.
- 1:08:25Speaker 2: Yeah, at that point they are Scott breaks all sense
- 1:08:29Speaker 2: of logic. They decide to leave their safe point because
- 1:08:32Speaker 2: they're sad they killed their friend. Uh. And then he
- 1:08:35Speaker 2: decides he's gonna run out to the shed by himself
- 1:08:40Speaker 2: to get the CBE radio and leave Live again by herself.
- 1:08:44Speaker 1: Again.
- 1:08:46Speaker 2: You already know they've been in the house, why would
- 1:08:48Speaker 2: you separate? Uh? Live as the good sense After a while, though,
- 1:08:53Speaker 2: to realize that she should really just not be sitting
- 1:08:55Speaker 2: out in the open by herself, runs to find Scott,
- 1:08:59Speaker 2: who has completely disappeared off the face of the earth.
- 1:09:03Speaker 2: And that's where we're gonna leave it.
- 1:09:05Speaker 1: Yeah, I find it really just ballsy of him to
- 1:09:09Speaker 1: leave her.
- 1:09:10Speaker 2: Twice, Just like, stop handling shit by yourself.
- 1:09:14Speaker 1: Take her with you. I mean, good god, it's you.
- 1:09:16Speaker 1: It's better for you to be in a pair than
- 1:09:17Speaker 1: for you to be alone against three fucking people in masks.
- 1:09:21Speaker 2: Again, you also have a gun, they have. They could
- 1:09:27Speaker 2: have exited the home when they could see the entrance
- 1:09:30Speaker 2: was clear and just start walking because if any of
- 1:09:33Speaker 2: them approach you, you shoot them with the gun.
- 1:09:37Speaker 1: I know. It's funny because like it's like it sounds
- 1:09:39Speaker 1: like we're complaining about this movie, but it's really just
- 1:09:41Speaker 1: fun It's it's not that we don't like this movie.
- 1:09:43Speaker 1: I mean, I love this movie, you know I do. Yeah,
- 1:09:45Speaker 1: we love it. But it is just, you know, you
- 1:09:47Speaker 1: gotta you gotta make fun of horror movies like this
- 1:09:49Speaker 1: when they they have so many opportunities to just get
- 1:09:51Speaker 1: the fun. And it's really it's kind of interesting that
- 1:09:54Speaker 1: the people still wanted to try and break in after
- 1:09:56Speaker 1: they know that there's a shotgun involved. That is like
- 1:09:59Speaker 1: the definition balls, Like you almost got blasted away by
- 1:10:03Speaker 1: a twelve gage or whatever that is, and you're like, nah,
- 1:10:05Speaker 1: we can, we can still get them. Damn, that's a
- 1:10:08Speaker 1: pretty that's I'm just saying. I would have that would
- 1:10:10Speaker 1: have been Mike. If I was them, I'd be like,
- 1:10:11Speaker 1: you know what, this is too much for me. But yeah,
- 1:10:15Speaker 1: there's just so many times when they could have left
- 1:10:17Speaker 1: or you know, could could have made better decisions, and
- 1:10:20Speaker 1: it's just funny that they didn't. Uh doesn't make me
- 1:10:22Speaker 1: like the movie any less, it's just it's just fun
- 1:10:24Speaker 1: to point those things out. But yeah, like, don't don't,
- 1:10:27Speaker 1: don't leave your girl alone. I know she said no
- 1:10:29Speaker 1: to you, but damn, man, you don't gotta be that.
- 1:10:31Speaker 1: You know I'm gonna be that harsh about it. Sheesh
- 1:10:34Speaker 1: sheesh man. Anything else you have to say about it?
- 1:10:37Speaker 2: Nope, nope, nope, sure, yep.
- 1:10:40Speaker 1: Okay, let's get down to you. There's no mid or
- 1:10:43Speaker 1: post credit scene. I know this because I fast forward
- 1:10:46Speaker 1: through the ten fucking minutes of credits that there apparently
- 1:10:49Speaker 1: are it Like the movie ended, and I paused, I'm like,
- 1:10:51Speaker 1: one seventeen out of one twenty seven? Why is there
- 1:10:54Speaker 1: there's four people in this movie? Why is there so
- 1:10:56Speaker 1: much credits? Uh? So, that was really weird that there's
- 1:10:58Speaker 1: so much. So there's none of that in there. Taglines
- 1:11:01Speaker 1: We've got locked the door, pretend you're safe. Not that great.
- 1:11:04Speaker 1: We tell ourselves there's nothing to fear, but sometimes we're wrong.
- 1:11:06Speaker 1: Also not great. The best one because you were home,
- 1:11:09Speaker 1: because that's what they say. Trivia. We've got actually a
- 1:11:12Speaker 1: lot of fun trivia on this. The film was shot
- 1:11:14Speaker 1: entirely with handheld cameras or steady cams. Every shot has
- 1:11:17Speaker 1: some sort of camera movement, and it did get a
- 1:11:19Speaker 1: little kind of I've read this before. I watched the
- 1:11:21Speaker 1: movie like I typically do when I make these write
- 1:11:24Speaker 1: up sheets. So I did notice that it does. You
- 1:11:26Speaker 1: can kind of notice it throw out and you're like, okay,
- 1:11:27Speaker 1: it does get kind of a little overdone, but again,
- 1:11:30Speaker 1: doesn't take anying away from me. But I did notice
- 1:11:32Speaker 1: a lot. According to the director Brian Bertino, this film
- 1:11:35Speaker 1: was partially based on an incident he experienced as a child.
- 1:11:37Speaker 1: One evening, a stranger came to his door, asked for
- 1:11:39Speaker 1: someone who was not there, and left. Later Bertino found
- 1:11:42Speaker 1: out that the other homes in this neighborhood had had
- 1:11:44Speaker 1: been broken into that night, so inspired, inspired by literal
- 1:11:47Speaker 1: life events that happened not to him, but you know,
- 1:11:50Speaker 1: someone else. During filming, in order to get an actual
- 1:11:52Speaker 1: reaction from liv tyler A, director Brian Bertino would tell
- 1:11:55Speaker 1: her where to expect a loud bang from, but what
- 1:11:57Speaker 1: had the loud noise come from a completely different direction.
- 1:11:59Speaker 1: Very smart filmmaking. Film was shot in chronological order, which
- 1:12:02Speaker 1: makes sense because it is literally at one location the
- 1:12:05Speaker 1: entire or you know, two locations the entire movie. Many
- 1:12:10Speaker 1: theaters across the United States were sent faulty reels of
- 1:12:12Speaker 1: the movie containing sound problems, which made for a few
- 1:12:15Speaker 1: minutes to several scenes of the movie filled with nothing
- 1:12:18Speaker 1: but static. Most audience did not realize this as the
- 1:12:21Speaker 1: sound is the problem, since the dark, overtone and loud
- 1:12:23Speaker 1: background music in some scenes made the statics seem like
- 1:12:25Speaker 1: part of the movie. Filmmakers tried to design the house
- 1:12:28Speaker 1: as one that quote your brother could have lived in,
- 1:12:31Speaker 1: that you could have grown up in end quote in
- 1:12:33Speaker 1: order to make the audience feel more attached to the film.
- 1:12:35Speaker 1: I agree with that the house did look very inviting,
- 1:12:38Speaker 1: despite you know, there being a lot of killers in there.
- 1:12:41Speaker 1: The movie was not shot in an actual house. The
- 1:12:43Speaker 1: interior was built on a sound stage typical Hollywood shit.
- 1:12:47Speaker 1: See the blonde doll face that first makes an appearance
- 1:12:49Speaker 1: asking if Tamara is home. Jim Award, who plays his character,
- 1:12:53Speaker 1: also film parts of The Caribbean Stranger tides as Tamara,
- 1:12:56Speaker 1: which is kind of funny. Lives Tyler, which I did
- 1:12:59Speaker 1: not realize this. I don't know why. It's just something
- 1:13:02Speaker 1: I never put together. Liv Tyler's father is Aerosmith frontman
- 1:13:06Speaker 1: Steven Tyler. Literally had no idea until I saw a
- 1:13:09Speaker 1: picture of them side by side after I read this,
- 1:13:11Speaker 1: and I was like, they have the same like mouth
- 1:13:13Speaker 1: and jaw. Weird. Before making a big with Aerosmith, a
- 1:13:16Speaker 1: teenage Steen, a teenage Steven Tyler was in another band
- 1:13:20Speaker 1: which was originally called The Strangers. Funny enough fun facts
- 1:13:23Speaker 1: right here, and last but not least, the scene where
- 1:13:25Speaker 1: the man in the mask hacks away at the door
- 1:13:27Speaker 1: as of reference to The Shining nineteen eighty where Jack
- 1:13:29Speaker 1: hacks about them door to get twndy, so nice call
- 1:13:31Speaker 1: out to the shining. One of my greatest movies ever
- 1:13:33Speaker 1: made Goof's. After Christen injrew her angles, she limps in
- 1:13:36Speaker 1: the house, then walks perfectly fine, and then immediately after
- 1:13:39Speaker 1: limps again, James wraps his neck tie around Christen's injured hand,
- 1:13:43Speaker 1: and the next scene he's wearing a tie, and the
- 1:13:44Speaker 1: scene after that he's not wearing a tie at all.
- 1:13:46Speaker 1: And then the ice cream on the table at which
- 1:13:48Speaker 1: I did notice is hilarious changes from vanilla to strawberry throughout.
- 1:13:50Speaker 1: The movie rated six point one out of ten on
- 1:13:52Speaker 1: IMDb and three point zero out of five on Letterbox.
- 1:13:54Speaker 1: I feel like that is a very low rating on Letterbox.
- 1:13:58Speaker 1: I don't know, I think three. I mean, it's solid rating,
- 1:14:00Speaker 1: but I honestly expected it to have like at least
- 1:14:02Speaker 1: a three, three, three four. But that's it seems weird
- 1:14:05Speaker 1: that it's low. But I think I read a lot
- 1:14:07Speaker 1: of reviews and I think the consensus are The consensus
- 1:14:09Speaker 1: I got is that people just kind of found it
- 1:14:11Speaker 1: boring because people just standing around in mask is then't
- 1:14:13Speaker 1: not that scary. But I understand that relies more on tension
- 1:14:17Speaker 1: and yeah, and like atmosphere than actual scarce. But there's
- 1:14:20Speaker 1: also a few good jump scares in this too, especially
- 1:14:23Speaker 1: with the fucking shotgun that is a very like whoa,
- 1:14:26Speaker 1: that is not as a gnarly scene. Did you rate this?
- 1:14:29Speaker 1: If you would rate it, what would you give it? Like,
- 1:14:33Speaker 1: I'm stuck somewhere between the three five and a four.
- 1:14:34Speaker 1: I haven't I haven't rated it yet, but I'm I'm
- 1:14:36Speaker 1: I'm leaning towards a four. Uh, but I think I
- 1:14:39Speaker 1: feel like I have to knock it just because of
- 1:14:41Speaker 1: how much he's just getting I mean maybe that's part
- 1:14:43Speaker 1: of the character though, So it's like, you know, I
- 1:14:44Speaker 1: don't know. So it's like, I don't know. I don't
- 1:14:47Speaker 1: know if the gaslighting is like a period of the time,
- 1:14:49Speaker 1: you know, or a product of the time, or if
- 1:14:52Speaker 1: it was like written into the story for him to
- 1:14:54Speaker 1: just completely dismiss her feelings, you know. I'm not sure.
- 1:14:56Speaker 2: No, I think it was written in to make it
- 1:14:58Speaker 2: so he makes stupid decisions. But yeah, so supposed to
- 1:15:01Speaker 2: be character.
- 1:15:02Speaker 1: Yeah that's true. So so yeah, that's where I'm stuck.
- 1:15:06Speaker 1: Definitely need to rewatch the sequel because I remember not
- 1:15:09Speaker 1: liking it that much. I definitely like this one more
- 1:15:11Speaker 1: so we're gonna try to watch that soon. But we
- 1:15:13Speaker 1: gotta go at Schahak now. So yeah, yes, indeed, check
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