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Black Gold Sun: From Sidewalk Show to Punk Revolution to Doll Fest and beyond! · The Hang! As Seen On Almost Famous Magazine!

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  Hey everyone, welcome back to The Hang right here on Almost Famous Magazine.
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  I'm your host Scott Salinger.
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  uh
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  As part of our Dollfest 2026 coverage, we're hanging with the amazing Black Gold Sun today.
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  They're a high intensity female punk trio delivering punk at its purest.
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  Loud, fearless, impossible to ignore.
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  Trust me, they've performed on a street corner, they were impossible to ignore.
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  Formed by members of legendary San Francisco bands, Sisters in the Pit, The Hail Marys, and Dolarada, uh they're fusing blistering riffs, thunderous bass.
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  ride his drums into a live spectacle that's earned them international tours across Europe and China and shared stages with Iggy Pop and the Stooges.
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  Bold, genre defiant, built to own the stage and a good sidewalk.
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  Black Old Sun doesn't follow punk's rules.
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  They tear them up.
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  They're setting the system on fire.
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  I'm so excited to have them with us to learn their story today.
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  Anita, Veronica and Q Lin, welcome to The Hang.
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  Hello.
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  Woohoo!
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  Glad to be here.
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  All right, hopefully I got all that good.
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  I got that right.
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  Hopefully I got all that right.
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  Fabulous, fabulous.
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  I get one point out the gate.
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  I'm excited to talk to DollFest and your participation, but what I wanna do, especially since I did some research in finding stuff on you all, you've got an Instagram page, I
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  found a video of you on the sidewalk, which was just amazing.
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  I don't know a lot about you, so I wanna learn about everybody today.
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  So let's start with that.
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  possible.
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  Let's talk about how the three of you got to know each other, came together to form the band.
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  Well, it's a great story.
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  It's a rock and roll story.
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  oh I actually had this idea for this particular band election night of last year.
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  And we know how that went.
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  And I felt like, you know, pausing the music projects that I had.
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  And I just really knew the world needed a Black Girl Punk Band.
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  So I of course thought about Veronica.
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  We've known each other for years, I feel like.
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  And she was the first person who I thought about.
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  And I shot her a text and she said she wouldn't mind, you know, getting together and seeing what happened.
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  And yeah, it kind of happened that way.
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  And then do you want to tell the Q story, Veronica?
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  I was still going to tell my story and your story.
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  oh So basically, I've shared the stage with Anita and other bands, but I've never played with Anita.
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  So I was sort of taking a hiatus from playing and I moved and all this stuff.
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  oh you know, I played with a bunch of bands over a bunch of years.
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  Not that I'm all that, but I like to surround myself with really talented people.
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  So when Anita called up, I'm like, sure, I'm kind of rusty.
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  Let's see what we can do.
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  .
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  sweat through these songs.
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  my gosh, maybe I can play half of this one and part of that one.
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  Okay.
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  Okay.
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  So, so Q, let me ask, let me ask you this.
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  I'm, always fascinated with people's music stories.
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  Tell me how you, tell me how your relationship with music started and did you find music or did music find you?
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  I think music found me by way of like knowing that I come from music in the soul in the home.
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  So my mom and my pops, played music a lot.
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  And then my dad, he was a guitarist.
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  um So as far as music being introduced to me, it was just very loud music that was introduced to me.
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  And I was able to express the music through banging on different things, tapping on different things, moving around to different sounds and those whatnots.
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  And I was able to go into dance, I was able to go into rhythms.
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  And then it went to, my mom got me my first drum lessons when I was eight years old.
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  So then I started drum lessons at eight.
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  And then from there, um
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  kind of stopped because I had moved and then I was able to pick it back up in middle school.
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  So I was able to do drums when middle school where there was concert band, marching band.
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  I was playing for the musicals, playing for the choir, just playing for everything that was needed for a drummer at the time.
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  And also doing sports and community engagement things at the time too.
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  So yeah, that's how I kind of like just came into the music and the drumming.
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  And then I just kind of
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  evolved a little bit more and went into activating communities with drumming and bringing in a marching band program for the youth and teens and um spreading that out throughout
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  Sacramento and then moving to Richmond, California and building that with the music program out in Richmond, California.
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  And then again, bringing all of that through community with second line bands and also working with different kinds of music bands with Sacramento, different groups, whether
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  it's on women's groups.
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  oh older guys and the jazz heads.
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  I was just always just moving around with just different music.
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  I never thought I would bump into punk band, but um it's on time because I believe when I went to Oakland, the late Auntie Teacher Monica Hastings Smith told me that you're a rock
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  star.
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  When you connect with people that share the same story with your music.
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  you guys are gonna take off.
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  So I really attribute to my blessing to that.
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  So is this your first foray into punk?
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  Yes.
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  Wow, wow.
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  So you went from having that music in the home, this is beyond even full circle.
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  I mean, compared to what you grew up with, that's incredible.
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  Yes, thank you.
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  You're fortunate, you ladies, are fortunate to have found her and that she has found her punk.
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  Yeah.
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  Veronica, Veronica, what's your what's your musical journey like been like?
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  What did you find music?
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  Did it find you?
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  How did how did your relationship with it grow?
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  was an only child and I remember after bedtime I had like a little radio, like a transistor radio that I put underneath my pillow when I listened to music.
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  I think one of the first songs that I hung onto was like Sweet, Baldwin Blitz, something like that.
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  And I've always been interested in music and I played like trumpet and French horn in the marching band and concert band.
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  But my problem is I couldn't read music.
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  I don't know, it just didn't stick with me.
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  I could hear it, I learned it, and then I'm doing it.
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  But later on I wanted to get in a band and I figured um I could play a few chords on guitar, but I said, well, bass has four strings, so it's got to be easier, right?
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  The cool thing about bass was I could listen to a song on the radio and hear the bass line.
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  And I'm just playing notes and chords and not doing anything fancy.
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  So I was like, OK, I can play in a band now.
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  So I tried out in a few.
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  think the first band was in Greensboro, North Carolina, called Velcro Kitty.
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  They said you can't play at all.
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  And I said, what am going to do about this?
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  So they were good friends of mine though.
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  So I continued to try.
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  And then when I get out to the Bay Area, I found a band that took me on and I got better with the band sort of, and I just kept going.
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  And like I said, um I try to take lessons.
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  And once again, those like reading music and trying to learn the scales just didn't stick with me.
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  But
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  What I did do was play with people that were really good musicians and that really stretched me.
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  You know, I couldn't be left behind.
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  I didn't want to hear that, what are you doing here again?
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  And so I just pushed myself as far as that goes.
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  um I love live shows.
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  I love all sorts of music.
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  And um I got lucky with the people that I've run into that let me play with them.
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  Yeah, now do you have perfect pitch?
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  mean, did you have just this innate ability to kind of pick it up and not need the lessons?
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  .
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  .
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  I don't try to do anything fancy.
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  I'm not playing a five string upright fretless anything, you know.
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  I'm just keeping it steady and I guess I have some rhythm.
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  So when all else fails, I keep it simple and I try to stick with the drums and, you know, keep it memorable, I guess.
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  Well, if you're ever in Slovenia, there's a Psychobilly band called Clockwork Psycho, and she plays an upright bass with that band, right?
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  It's unbelievable.
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  So maybe that's something to graduate to on the punk scene, Is like punk with an upright bass.
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  I mean, easy to get around a big city too.
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  I mean, come on, you just take it on the bus.
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  um
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  Anita, how about your story?
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  What's your journey in relationship with music like been like?
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  Back in the 1900s, they had this thing called music in school.
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  And I took a guitar class in junior high and I was like, oh my God, I love this.
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  And I just fell, I fell madly in love with acoustic guitars and electric guitars.
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  And I had the best dad.
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  And I told him and bam, I got a guitar for Christmas.
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  Nice, nice.
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  Who have some of your guitar influences been?
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  Um, I would say, so the first record I bought was the Stones.
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  So Keith Richard every day of the week.
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  mean, not that I can play riffs like that, but the dude's a genius, you know?
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  And of course, Jimi Hendrix, um, and you know, the old blues guys.
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  It's just, um, yeah, it's pretty incredible listening to them.
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  So you mentioned to me before we got started that you all are working on an album.
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  What's the writing experience between the three of you like?
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  Who's bringing what to the songs?
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  And as an all African American punk band, right, of females, what are you writing about?
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  Ooh, well, I have the best band in the world.
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  I just kind of show up with them in rehearsal.
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  And, you know, I get inspired listening to the temperature of the world, so to speak.
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  And again, the best players like Hugh, you know, the first time we jammed, I think it was six or seven songs.
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  She did in less than two hours.
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  And Veronica is an amazing bassist.
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  So I can, I feel so fortunate that I can have an idea and they blow me like away.
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  It's, pretty incredible.
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  That's been, yeah, it's been just a cool thing for me.
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  What about you guys?
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  but don't sell your lyrics short.
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  You said, you know, the temperature, but I feel like it goes deeper than that sometimes because there's a layer.
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  You can take it this way, you can take it that way.
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  How are you going to interpret these lyrics?
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  And you do that without it being like overly dramatic or anything.
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  It just hits home.
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  So I want to throw that in there.
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  And then another thing I think working together that it's not like this is my song and this is what I hear.
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  It's very collaborative.
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  And, you know, I always hear something that sounds great.
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  And I'm like, suppose we try this thing and we try it it sounds horrible.
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  And it's like, OK, maybe not that, but let's try that thing.
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  And I think it's great in a band like that where there's no one who's like saying we're to do it my way or the highway.
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  So things kind of develop and evolve.
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  those circumstances and so is everybody's creativity and everybody's got a different background and the kind of stuff they listen to and everything so it comes together in a
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  good way that
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  Yeah, and like to add to that too would be the two words I'm thinking of as that tone and texture.
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  So Anita is really good at describing what the tone is and I can ask like what the tone is are we going to go so if she's talking about fight she'll be able to add what the the what
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  the accent is or what the vibe is with the energy.
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  um So I love that and then I also love that we can have the different varieties of like our dynamics we can go really high and then we can bring it really low too.
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  So Anita's really good at showing how to do those cues.
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  And I love how you two connect and let me know that we're bringing it down or we're going to bring it back up.
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  So I love those verbal cues that you do.
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  with the music, because it comes to life when you present it in the studio.
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  I'm excited that you said tone and texture.
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  That's been coming up in lot of conversations I've been having lately with people.
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  you know, because it's so kind of, I don't know, for lack of any other way of putting it, we live in a somewhat homogenized musical world these days due to technology.
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  And, you know, I find that the things that are really drawing me to certain musicians these days are tone and texture, right?
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  you.
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  Yes.
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  and it's being able to have a differentiation between yourself and what other people have made.
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  So I love the fact that you're saying that, which makes me super excited to hear the music when it comes out.
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  So.
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  um I'm curious, you know, as I did my research, I found that sidewalk video.
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  How did that all happen?
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  Like, was that spontaneous?
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  mean, what's the story behind that?
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  I want people to go, I'm gonna put a link down below, by the way, so that people can go see it.
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  So it was really cool.
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  I randomly bumped into this woman named Jen and she owns a skateboard shop in San Francisco.
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  And it's kind of rare for a woman to own a board, you know, a skateboard shop.
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  And I think it was six in the morning, we're in my neighborhood and she just kind of, we showed up at the post office at the same time.
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  the mail actual letters.
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  And we started talking and she said, hey, I, you know, I've got this, this skateboard shop.
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  you any bands?
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  And I said, well, as a matter of fact, I have a new punk band.
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  And it just kind of, we got our first show out of that.
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  And it was on the streets of San Francisco.
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  It was, yeah.
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  And I needed, we needed a first show.
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  So it just kind of happened organically.
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  And yeah, and we turned it up.
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  yeah, no, absolutely.
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  Everybody, once you're done with us today, like let us get to the end, don't run off now.
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  Once you get to the end, I want you to go down to the below and I want you to click the link.
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  You gotta see this Sidewalk Show.
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  I'm curious, how did that lead to you all playing at Dollfest?
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  I think this is amazing.
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  You went from the sidewalk to Dollfest.
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  Tell me the story.
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  we totally did.
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  were, gosh, Veronica, help me.
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  What show are we at?
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  were at, uh what's the place that's outside of Berkeley?
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  um We had a at the Ivy Room.
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  Was that our second show?
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  Yeah, and someone was there with DollFest and somebody talked to somebody and said they should play DollFest and so we said, I don't know, it just happened.
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  Let me get, let me guess.
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  I'm gonna think that I'm I'm gonna, I'm gonna, gonna, I'm thinking it was Maria, cause she is not afraid to ask anybody for anything.
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  And I love that about her.
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  She is fearless.
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  And I think putting together something like doll fest, you have to be fearless and ask anybody you want to and not take a no for an answer.
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  So I think that's awesome.
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  Awesome.
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  Um, you know, Anita, you had mentioned it earlier and I want to kind of talk about this a little bit.
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  Um,
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  oh You you kind of got the idea after the last election to put this band together.
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  And we do live, um for the sake of anything else, uh I'd like to say we live in a fascinating time.
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  uh It's a little more positive way of looking at it.
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  It's fascinating.
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  um Given the times that we live in and what we're going through in a very divided country,
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  and you are now, you know, started a punk band in a predominantly, I hate to say it, but I'm one of them, can say it, white guy genre.
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  I can own that one.
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  What are your thoughts about the up and coming burgeoning female and ethnic individuals who are making waves in punk because it seems to be a pretty big wave of people?
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  that are coming up and really showing their power in their voice.
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  What are your thoughts on punk these days and the place that people who don't normally aren't perceived to belong there, the power they have to be there?
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  I kind of feel like if you build it, they will come.
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  So in the early 2000s,
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  a legend named Iggy Pop saw three black girls on MySpace.
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  And I think we were the 99th band that he had watched.
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  And he said, those girls, I want those girls to go on tour with us.
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  And it was like, what an honor to have this legend like believe in us.
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  And I feel like
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  oh Especially today, people listen to all types of music.
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  And we live in the Bay Area, so anybody could be at a punk show.
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  It's just like those pockets may be, you know, I've lived in the South, I've lived in the Midwest, and I've been the only one who's looked like me in those rooms.
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  And music is music.
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  I feel like...
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  you know, especially today, people need to work things out.
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  oh I feel like there's rage.
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  Rage is a perfectly human emotion.
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  It's just the way that you express it.
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  Now you can go to a punk show and express it.
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  And that I feel like we want to give people, all kinds of folks, a safe space to gather and just...
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  And yeah, that's what I think.
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  What do you all feel, Veronica?
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  I'm curious about you and Q.
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  Here you go,
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  I'm still open on what it means.
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  This is the time to really speak.
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  We have the platform, we have the tools, we have the resources, we have the united people coming together for the cause, for the revolution per se.
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  And that revolution is in us unifying through the spirit of music to be telling the real story of what is going on.
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  So this is that next cycle of people that look like us three that get to be in these spaces.
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  And it comes from with our tone and the texture of who and what it is that it's going to be very real.
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  So this is our time to be what punk is.
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  And punk, remember as a young person, I was like, oh, I knew what punk was.
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  I just.
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  wasn't ready for it.
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  I, cause I could, I almost say that I was punk then.
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  So now being this, this person to be in this time and this space, I'm going to not only do it, we're going to do it.
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  So that's what I'm thinking as far as what these, what these times are, as far as in your shirt is making me laugh.
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  Yeah.
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  So that's why I met Anita.
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  don't know.
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  I'm pass the mic Anita.
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  Go ahead, Vronk.
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  I think you have...
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  Okay, so for me, I mean, what is punk?
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  I mean, it's a pretty broad term.
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  I mean, it could be a musical style.
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  It could be a philosophy.
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  So some people might listen to our music and say, well, you don't sound like, I don't know, black flags or you're not punk or whatever.
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  But the way I look at it, punk is a place where you don't need permission.
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  You don't have to be polished.
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  uh You don't have to seek approval, but basically you're just trying to speak your truth.
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  And honestly, if you wanted to do it with a harmonica and stomp your foot, that can be punk.
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  So that's the way I'm coming from.
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  I listen to all sorts of music.
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  I mean, all sorts of music, except I don't like country so much, but I'm getting there.
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  But in any event, I think it's just how we define it and what we're putting out there and what people are willing to accept from us.
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  And we're trying to create something that entertains and educates, I suppose.
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  All having fun.
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  Yes.
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  Well, fun matters.
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  I mean, I remember, and I'm just gonna put this out there, because after just seeing you on the sidewalk there in that video, I'd love to see you in living color on a double bill
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  with that kind of energy.
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  Would be absolutely fucking amazing.
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  I'm just gonna put it out there in the universe.
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  Corey, if you're watching, you gotta book these ladies.
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  You gotta get them out on the road with you.
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  Cause I get that kind of energy from what I saw from you and what I've loved from that band.
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  Be fierce, absolutely fierce.
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  So.
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  I get a poster?
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  Because you just, hold on.
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  This is so awesome.
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  boy, what am I gonna see here?
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  You
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  Oh, look at that.
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  and one signature, two signatures, three, four.
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  Just have to, what a show.
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  I'm in awe.
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  don't have, I don't have.
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  Where was that shell?
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  was the show?
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  It was at the Independent, the old Kennel Club, which is where I saw her.
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  What?
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  my God.
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  Yeah.
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  We have to go back to a Kennel Club story after we finish this question, because that's a magical place.
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  You were there?
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  Sorry.
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  Tell us the story.
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  How'd you not meet each other then?
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  this is crazy.
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  So when I landed in San Francisco, I went to this club.
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  It was called the Kennel Club.
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  And if you can imagine, like, sweat dripping from the ceiling and, packed with, like, hundreds of people.
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  And I'm like, what the hell is going on?
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  Because I'm a southern slash Midwestern kid and had just
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  gotten off the boat, so to speak.
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  So I look at the stage and I see this black girl on base who is killing it.
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  She probably, it was probably a skirt involved and tight boots and just rocking.
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  And I'm like, my God, who is this band?
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  And they were called the uh Hail Marys.
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  And so when I saw Veronica for the first time, I thought,
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  One, my God, I'm seeing myself.
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  This is a black girl who obviously likes rock and roll.
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  Two, one day I'm gonna be in a band with her.
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  I don't know her name, but I'm gonna be in a band with that girl.
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  And then bam, years later, I looked at our first rehearsal.
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  I was like, my God, I'm in a band with her.
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  Which is what I said that I saw.
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  It took some years, but it was at the Kennel Glove, which is where uh we both saw live in color.
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  And I didn't even know you were in that show.
• 27:06
  So.
• 27:06
  um I think I met them after that show, but let me tell you all that sweat and stuff that was happening, it's probably because I was wearing pleather, because that was the thing.
• 27:17
  But that was another situation where I Go ahead.
• 27:22
  pleather.
• 27:24
  Yes, it was the style of the times.
• 27:28
  that was a fun band and another situation where I was surrounded with some really powerful people that I don't even know how I managed to get in that band, but I was very happy to
• 27:40
  be there and I worked very hard to be a part of it and we had a good time.
• 27:46
  Awesome, Look, I'm in awe of that poster that you have, Anita.
• 27:50
  I've seen them four times.
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  I do concert photography as well, and I got a chance to photograph them here in Dallas once.
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  The first time I saw them was in Washington, D.C., and that was a powerful show, and that goes back 20, gosh, 20 something years ago.
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  But an incredible band.
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  again, Corey, if you're watching, anyone watching now who knows Corey?
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  Get your ass on the phone and make the call.
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  I wanna see that show.
• 28:19
  I will get on a plane for that show.
• 28:21
  Come on, Corey, come on, Vernon, come on, someone.
• 28:24
  that show too, so.
• 28:31
  Yeah, that'd be awesome.
• 28:33
  Great.
• 28:33
  um all right.
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  So let me think, where was I gonna go next?
• 28:39
  um You all have had some great, amazing opportunities to perform in different bands, different genres, things like that.
• 28:52
  And just like I just put, you know, we're gonna try and manifest this whole living color thing.
• 28:56
  um I love to put good things out in the universe, because you never know, again, who may be watching.
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  And some people have bucket lists, some people have vision boards, everybody's got a dream.
• 29:11
  I wanna go around and see, like learn from each of you.
• 29:14
  um If there was one individual, musician or producer, that you could go spend a day to collaborate with in a studio, who would it be and why that person?
• 29:27
  Q, I'm gonna ask you first.
• 29:29
  ah I would probably go with the late J Dilla and the reason because I really think he's an awesome producer his sound and his his detail to drums and especially how he was able to
• 29:47
  tweak drums with not just playing live drums but slowing drums adding drums like but just his his detail to drums and also his sampling I love J Dilla sampling
• 29:59
  ah And there's also other tracks too that he could go really grungy He could go really heavy metal and it turns into some hip-hop and it goes very spacey and then he brings it
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  back down So I would say Jay Della that would be one artist or one producer
• 30:13
  Q, I'm gonna give you a second.
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  I'm gonna tell you why.
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  Because I want you to put someone out there who's alive today, so if they get a hold of this, you get that opportunity.
• 30:24
  Who's someone living that you would be like, I wanna spend a day with them?
• 30:30
  Um, shoot.
• 30:32
  I'm just off the top of my head probably right now, Questlove.
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  Um, I saw him last night.
• 30:38
  He came out to the Rink Studios and performed with Flip a Beat Club and he closed out the night with his producing.
• 30:46
  But of course, again, Jay, um, shoot, Questlove.
• 30:49
  I got to see him in Sacramento 15 years ago ever, and he performed at Ace of Spades and I got to connect with him, got drums, got to take the photo, drum pad, everything.
• 30:58
  So now being able to connect with him because his DJing and his DJing, I hear his drums in his DJing.
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  So, so inspiring.
• 31:06
  ah And he was able just to, he kept the vibe going.
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  So I love, I love Quest.
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  And again, he's very hardworking, very humble man, very chill, very chill.
• 31:17
  So that would be one artist.
• 31:19
  Yeah.
• 31:20
  All right, anybody watching knows Questlove, you know what to do, you've got your marching orders.
• 31:24
  got your marching Veronica, how about you?
• 31:27
  So if we're going for someone who's living, then I'm have to go with the last show that I saw that really moved me and actually Nita was with me at this show.
• 31:35
  I'm gonna say New Night Benjamin.
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  um I was amazed by that.
• 31:40
  It felt, it was immersive.
• 31:41
  oh She had a certain stage presence, the band.
• 31:46
  I just got wrapped up in it.
• 31:48
  I don't even know how to describe it.
• 31:49
  It was like almost like a religious experience.
• 31:51
  I mean, she's technically a Haitian priestess, so maybe it was, but that was...
• 31:56
  That was a wonderful concert.
• 31:58
  um because Anita is bold, I am shy, believe it or not, we were able to meet her.
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  She spoke French.
• 32:05
  Hopefully we got the point across because it was an amazing show.
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  I'd recommend it to anyone.
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  Goodnight, Benjamin.
• 32:14
  And Anita, who's yours?
• 32:17
  Well, I would have to say I'm a huge fan of Dave Grohl.
• 32:22
  Like that guy, every song, it's like it's the last song he's ever going to sing in his entire life.
• 32:32
  And I feel like he just gives it up.
• 32:35
  And with this band, with Black Gold Sun, I from the first ah note, I'm
• 32:46
  this high in the sky.
• 32:47
  And before, like in other bands, it would take me a little bit, you know, get off the runway and kind of get in the air a little bit before you hit 30,000 feet.
• 33:01
  But with them, it's bam, it's a punch in the face.
• 33:06
  A good punch, full love.
• 33:08
  And then, you know, I feel like Dave Grohl, he just, I love it.
• 33:13
  I love how he writes, how he...
• 33:15
  reduces the lyrics.
• 33:17
  It's this just beautiful story.
• 33:22
  Well, and we know from the we know from during COVID, he definitely looks at look watches things on the internet.
• 33:27
  Because uh look what he did with Nandy.
• 33:29
  So you never know maybe he's watching today.
• 33:32
  But if you know if someone out there does know Dave, you got to get in the link to this episode.
• 33:36
  Oh, let's make you know what we've had one, one, two, three, four, we have four things to make happen.
• 33:45
  Something's gonna come out of this.
• 33:46
  I just I've got a feeling something's coming out of this.
• 33:49
  Here's what I want to do.
• 33:50
  Um,
• 33:52
  You've got an album, it's gonna come out sometime, right?
• 33:57
  Sometime you're working on it, sometime.
• 34:00
  How are you guys feeling?
• 34:02
  Announced for the first time.
• 34:04
  What do you think, May?
• 34:06
  May 2026.
• 34:08
  Yeah.
• 34:09
  right, all right, May, June, give you a little leeway.
• 34:13
  Here's what I wanna do.
• 34:14
  I have loved this.
• 34:15
  This has been awesome to hang with you.
• 34:18
  I want you back as soon as that album's done and I wanna talk about all the songs and the messages.
• 34:24
  All right, I wanna continue, we're gonna do a part two, all right?
• 34:27
  So we're gonna do part two is the album and the message because I've got a really good feeling this is gonna be a strong album.
• 34:34
  um and a great message.
• 34:36
  So that's what I want to do.
• 34:37
  uh In the meantime, everybody who's watched us today, here's what you got to do.
• 34:42
  You got to go to the link below.
• 34:44
  Okay, you've got to go watch Black Gold Sun rocking it out on the streets of San Francisco.
• 34:51
  Number one.
• 34:52
  Number two, if you see that they're playing somewhere, I want you to go buy a ticket and see them.
• 34:58
  Help them build this album.
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  Music and art are not free.
• 35:02
  Support.
• 35:03
  all your bands support these ladies make their dreams come true.
• 35:07
  So that's number two.
• 35:08
  And number three, I want you to all go and get a ticket.
• 35:13
  Maybe you get on a plane and you go to doll fest either in Mexico City or you go to Oakland, take your pick to vacation.
• 35:21
  Either way, support what women are doing in music.
• 35:26
  Now more than ever, please.
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  you.
• 35:29
  this has been a fantastic opportunity to get to know you.
• 35:32
  I thank you so much for spending time with me.
• 35:35
  I really do.
• 35:36
  And for joining us and telling us your story, I cannot wait to do this again.
• 35:40
  I'm super excited.
• 35:41
  um So please be good and safe.
• 35:44
  I'm gonna try and get to, I'm gonna try and get to DollFest.
• 35:47
  Maybe I'll get a chance to meet you.
• 35:48
  If not, we're definitely gonna get back together and do another episode.
• 35:51
  And in the meantime, everybody out there, please.
• 35:53
  um Give yourself some love, give yourself some kindness and give it to others.
• 35:57
  um None of us are getting anywhere alone these days.
• 36:01
  We need each other, so be good to each other and then come back for more episodes.
• 36:04
  uh Q, Veronica, Anita, thank you so much for joining me.
• 36:08
  It's been a pleasure.
• 36:09
  Thank you so much.
• 36:10
  appreciate it.
• 36:11
  Thank you everybody.
• 36:12
  you.
• 36:13
  Bye bye.