Latest / Crime Night / The Vanished Cyclist of Highway 95
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- 0:00Speaker 1: So it's late June nineteen eighty one. Picture of this long,
- 0:05Speaker 1: mostly downhill stretch of Highway ninety five.
- 0:07Speaker 2: Right winding right through the Pacific northwest.
- 0:10Speaker 1: Exactly between Moscow and Lewiston, Idaho. The summer sun is
- 0:13Speaker 1: just beating down on the asphalt, you know, so hard
- 0:16Speaker 1: that you get those shimmering heat waves off the road.
- 0:18Speaker 2: It's hot. It smells like dry pine needles.
- 0:20Speaker 1: And truck exhaust. Yeah, and riding her ten speed bicycle
- 0:24Speaker 1: along the shoulder is twenty two year old Kristin David.
- 0:28Speaker 1: She's a college student at the University of Idaho.
- 0:30Speaker 2: Just trying to get a few things she left at
- 0:31Speaker 2: her campus apartment back to her sister's place in Lewiston.
- 0:34Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, exactly. It's a thirty mile ride. Since it's
- 0:37Speaker 1: mostly downhill, it should take her like maybe three hours.
- 0:40Speaker 1: It's strenuous, but it's an entirely routine summer ride. But instead,
- 0:45Speaker 1: somewhere on that desolate stretch of sun Bag Highway, Kristen
- 0:49Speaker 1: and her bicycle just vanish into thin air.
- 0:51Speaker 2: Which is it's the exact kind of setting that lulls
- 0:54Speaker 2: you into a false sense of security. You know, you
- 0:56Speaker 2: have the vastness of the Pacific Northwest and the quiet
- 0:59Speaker 2: hum of rural highway. You simply do not expect a
- 1:02Speaker 2: scene of absolute calculated terror to unfold in broad daylight
- 1:05Speaker 2: with cars passing by.
- 1:07Speaker 1: Right, And that is why we're opening the case files
- 1:09Speaker 1: on this today. The mission of this deep dive is
- 1:12Speaker 1: to really unpack one of the most baffling, gruesome cold
- 1:17Speaker 1: cases in the history of the region. We are looking
- 1:20Speaker 1: at a stack of archival documents, witness statements, police reports,
- 1:24Speaker 1: and they completely defy the usual local serial killer theories.
- 1:27Speaker 2: They really do. It's a completely different kind of case.
- 1:30Speaker 1: If you have ever driven down a peaceful, small town
- 1:32Speaker 1: highway and wondered how such a quiet place can hide
- 1:35Speaker 1: a monster, this deep dive is going to show you
- 1:38Speaker 1: just how complex, layered and terrifying investigation can get. I mean,
- 1:42Speaker 1: we are talking about a chilling web of shifting memories,
- 1:45Speaker 1: a phantom identity that shouldn't mathematically be possible, and an
- 1:49Speaker 1: incredibly detailed FBI profile.
- 1:51Speaker 2: And you know what makes these files so vital to
- 1:53Speaker 2: study is that they force us to confront the very
- 1:55Speaker 2: mechanics of an investigation. We get to see the fragile
- 1:58Speaker 2: nature of human memory, the limitations of early forensic science
- 2:02Speaker 2: and the unsettling reality of how a perpetrator can slip
- 2:05Speaker 2: through the cracks of seemingly thorough police work just.
- 2:08Speaker 1: By like crossing a state line. So let's start with
- 2:11Speaker 1: the immediate aftermath of June twenty sixth, nineteen eighty one.
- 2:15Speaker 1: At first, local police didn't even suspect foul play. They
- 2:18Speaker 1: assumed a college student just went off the grid for
- 2:20Speaker 1: a weekend.
- 2:21Speaker 2: Which wasn't uncommon back then.
- 2:24Speaker 1: Right But as the local news started circulating Kristin's disappearance,
- 2:28Speaker 1: the police tip line started ringing, and a terrifying pattern
- 2:32Speaker 1: emerged from those calls. Multiple drivers reported seeing Kristen on
- 2:36Speaker 1: the side of the highway, but she wasn't alone. She
- 2:39Speaker 1: was standing near a mysterious brown van with an Oregon license.
- 2:43Speaker 2: Plate, an organ plate ending in either thirty seven or
- 2:46Speaker 2: seven thirty seven.
- 2:46Speaker 1: Right exactly now. Investigators back then relied heavily on a
- 2:50Speaker 1: technique that is super controversial today, forensic hypnosis. They brought
- 2:54Speaker 1: these passing drivers in, hoping to pull those exact plate
- 2:57Speaker 1: numbers from their subconscious minds.
- 2:59Speaker 2: Which didn't exactly work for the plate numbers, but a
- 3:01Speaker 2: very specific physical description of the suspect emerged.
- 3:04Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 3:04Speaker 1: The witnesses described a white male around thirty years old,
- 3:07Speaker 1: standing between five foot ten and six seat tall, with
- 3:10Speaker 1: a husky build like around one hundred and seventy five
- 3:13Speaker 1: to one hundred and eighty pounds. He had a neatly
- 3:16Speaker 1: trimmed beard, brown hair, and wore a brown and white
- 3:19Speaker 1: checkered shirt with army style khaki pants. One witness distinctly
- 3:23Speaker 1: describes his overall appearance as just grubby, but relying.
- 3:27Speaker 2: On that eyewitness testimony brings us to a major roadblock
- 3:30Speaker 2: in the file. There is a witness that documents referred
- 3:33Speaker 2: to as James, and his story is well, it's.
- 3:35Speaker 1: A wild rive, oh man, James, Yeah, his account is crazy.
- 3:38Speaker 2: It's a masterclass and a psychological phenomenon called retroactive interference.
- 3:42Speaker 2: So in nineteen eighty one, just days after the disappearance,
- 3:45Speaker 2: James reported driving past a brown van pulled over near
- 3:48Speaker 2: a town called Genesee, Okay. He said he saw the
- 3:51Speaker 2: bearded driver standing outside and a blond woman matching Kristen's
- 3:55Speaker 2: description standing near the back of the van with her
- 3:57Speaker 2: bike lying in the weeds. To James, look like a
- 4:00Speaker 2: totally mundane, broken down bike. Situation. The man seemed to
- 4:03Speaker 2: be helping.
- 4:04Speaker 1: Her right, like a good Samaritan exactly.
- 4:06Speaker 2: James even noted seeing a shadow and two feet on
- 4:08Speaker 2: the opposite side of the van, implying a second person
- 4:11Speaker 2: was present. Believing everything was fine, he just kept driving.
- 4:14Speaker 1: Okay, time out because you fast forward to twenty eighteen,
- 4:18Speaker 1: James gives a new interview for a documentary project and
- 4:21Speaker 1: his story is unrecognizable. Suddenly he remembers Kristin lying in
- 4:27Speaker 1: the grass as if she'd been violently struck by the
- 4:29Speaker 1: van and that bearded man. James now claims the guy
- 4:33Speaker 1: was walking toward her with his sinister, evil smile. I mean,
- 4:37Speaker 1: how does a memory go from helpful guy fixing a
- 4:39Speaker 1: bike to grinning psychopath standing over a hit and run victim.
- 4:43Speaker 2: You can't just chalk that up to forgetting right well,
- 4:45Speaker 2: and that is exactly where retroactive interference comes in. Memory
- 4:49Speaker 2: is not a video recording stored on a hard drive.
- 4:51Speaker 2: It is a neural pathway that gets reconstructed every single
- 4:54Speaker 2: time you recall it. It's like a piece of wet clay.
- 4:56Speaker 3: We clay.
- 4:57Speaker 2: Okay, unpack that well when horrific news breaks about it,
- 5:00Speaker 2: an event you witnessed your brain struggles to reconcile your
- 5:03Speaker 2: initial neutral memory with the new traumatic information. Over decades,
- 5:08Speaker 2: James's brain continually molded his memory of that day to
- 5:12Speaker 2: fit the horrific tragedy he later learned how occurred.
- 5:14Speaker 3: So he didn't consciously lie.
- 5:16Speaker 2: No, not at all. His brain literally overwrote the original
- 5:19Speaker 2: file to make sense of the horror and the horror that.
- 5:22Speaker 1: Triggered that overright was unimaginable because for eight days Kristin
- 5:26Speaker 1: was just a missing person. But that ambiguity came to
- 5:29Speaker 1: a violent end on the fourth of July. You know,
- 5:32Speaker 1: while people are out having barbecues and shooting off fireworks,
- 5:35Speaker 1: a fisherman is out on the murky waters.
- 5:37Speaker 2: At the Snake River and he spots a heavy black
- 5:40Speaker 2: garbage bag bobbing in the water near the river bank.
- 5:43Speaker 2: It's out of place enough that he maneuvers his boat
- 5:45Speaker 2: over and he opens it. Inside he finds human remains.
- 5:49Speaker 2: Over the next few days, police recover a total of
- 5:51Speaker 2: five black garbage bags from the river, some of them
- 5:54Speaker 2: double bagged, containing Kristin's dismembered body. It takes them nearly
- 5:58Speaker 2: a week just to officially con firm her identity. Through
- 6:01Speaker 2: dental records, which is just nightmare fuel.
- 6:04Speaker 1: But those bags gave investigators a surprisingly specific timeline. The
- 6:09Speaker 1: files mentioned they knew she was murdered almost immediately after
- 6:11Speaker 1: she vanished. How do they pinpoint a twenty four hour
- 6:15Speaker 1: window when she had been in the river for over
- 6:18Speaker 1: a week.
- 6:18Speaker 2: It comes down to the forensic mechanism of decomposition, specifically
- 6:22Speaker 2: a process called skin slippage.
- 6:24Speaker 1: Skin slippage, Okay, that sounds grim.
- 6:26Speaker 2: It is grim. After death, the enzymes in the body
- 6:29Speaker 2: begin to break down the proteins that anchor the top
- 6:32Speaker 2: layer of skin, the epidermist, to the underlying dermis. The
- 6:35Speaker 2: skin essentially starts to loosen and slip off.
- 6:38Speaker 3: Oh wow, Okay.
- 6:39Speaker 2: However, the cold waters of the Snake River acted like
- 6:42Speaker 2: a refrigerator, drastically slowing down this enzymatic breakdown. By analyzing
- 6:47Speaker 2: the precise stage of the skin slippage and factoring in
- 6:50Speaker 2: the water temperature, forensic pathologists calculated that she had to
- 6:53Speaker 2: have been killed, dismembered, and dumped within twenty four hours
- 6:57Speaker 2: of her disappearance on June twenty six.
- 6:59Speaker 1: The bags like sank to the bottom initially, then bloated
- 7:02Speaker 1: with decomposition. Gases and surfaced a week later, so while
- 7:05Speaker 1: search parties were out scouring the highway, she was already gone,
- 7:08Speaker 1: and the killer scrubbed the timeline of physical evidence. Her
- 7:11Speaker 1: ten speed bicycle never found, her clothing gone, the personal
- 7:17Speaker 1: effects she was known to carry in her pockets, like
- 7:19Speaker 1: her check book and her little coin purse, completely vanished.
- 7:23Speaker 2: But wait, there was one bizarre clue inside those black
- 7:26Speaker 2: garbage bags that changes the entire profile of the suspect.
- 7:29Speaker 3: The newspapers.
- 7:31Speaker 1: Every single part of Christen's remains was meticulously wrapped in
- 7:35Speaker 1: newspaper before being placed in the garbage bags, and.
- 7:37Speaker 2: They weren't just random pages grabbed from a gas station
- 7:40Speaker 2: trash can. There were four very specific sequential issues of
- 7:44Speaker 2: the Loosed and Morning Tribune, dated April seventh, seventeenth, nineteenth,
- 7:48Speaker 2: and twenty fourth.
- 7:49Speaker 1: Right, why April it's July. If you commit a murder
- 7:52Speaker 1: on the side of the highway, you don't just happen
- 7:54Speaker 1: to have a sequential archive of two month old local
- 7:56Speaker 1: newspapers in your trunk.
- 7:57Speaker 2: Which tells behavioral analysts exactly where the crime took place.
- 8:01Speaker 2: Keeping sequential two month old local newspapers implies a high
- 8:06Speaker 2: level of comfort and domestic stability. It points away from
- 8:09Speaker 2: a transient drifter sleeping in his van and heavily towards
- 8:13Speaker 2: someone with a permanent local residence, someone who has.
- 8:16Speaker 1: The daily paper delivered to their home, reads it and
- 8:18Speaker 1: stacks in the garage exactly.
- 8:21Speaker 2: This indicates the murder and dismemberment happened in a controlled environment,
- 8:25Speaker 2: taking a significant amount of time.
- 8:27Speaker 1: The physical evidence on the remains backs that up, but
- 8:30Speaker 1: it also creates a massive debate in the case files
- 8:34Speaker 1: because the autopsy described that dismemberment as almost surgical. But
- 8:39Speaker 1: if it was so surgical, why did the medical examiner
- 8:41Speaker 1: note that the killer struggled significantly with Kristen's legs, specifically
- 8:45Speaker 1: making the cuts around her upper thigh and hip joint.
- 8:48Speaker 2: This sparks the classic forensic debate of the surgeon versus
- 8:51Speaker 2: the hunter, and it all comes down to biomechanics. A
- 8:54Speaker 2: big game hunter knows how to break down a deer
- 8:56Speaker 2: or an elk with incredible precision. But humans are bipede.
- 9:00Speaker 2: We walk on two legs and elk is.
- 9:02Speaker 1: Quadrupedal, right, so the joints are different.
- 9:05Speaker 2: Vastly different. Because of this, a human hip joint sits
- 9:08Speaker 2: much higher and add a completely different angle in the
- 9:10Speaker 2: pelvic girdle than an animal's hip joint. A trained medical
- 9:14Speaker 2: professional would know exactly where that human joint articulates and
- 9:18Speaker 2: how to sever it cleanly. A hunter relying on muscle
- 9:21Speaker 2: memory from field dressing animals would miscalculate the angle and
- 9:25Speaker 2: struggle to separate the joint.
- 9:27Speaker 1: And given that this rural Idaho, the area is teeming
- 9:30Speaker 1: with experienced big game hunters. Right, But there is a
- 9:34Speaker 1: much darker detail about the remains that we have to discuss.
- 9:37Speaker 3: When the police finally packed up.
- 9:39Speaker 1: Their shoreline search, having recovered her head, torso, arms, and
- 9:42Speaker 1: upper legs, there was a piece missing from the knee down.
- 9:47Speaker 1: Kristen's right leg was never recovered. Now, there was a
- 9:50Speaker 1: fleeting report of a black bag floating in the choppy
- 9:53Speaker 1: waters out in the middle of the river, but it
- 9:55Speaker 1: sank before anyone.
- 9:56Speaker 3: Could reach it.
- 9:57Speaker 2: Investigators had to consider the behavioral alternative, though, What if
- 10:00Speaker 2: that bag wasn't in the river? What if the killer
- 10:02Speaker 2: kept the lower leg, which.
- 10:03Speaker 1: Leads us straight into the FBI's involvement. Local police in
- 10:07Speaker 1: nineteen eighty one weren't equipped to build psychological profiles, so
- 10:10Speaker 1: the FBI's Behavioral Science unit comes in and lays out
- 10:13Speaker 1: a twenty point psychological breakdown of the suspect. They describe
- 10:17Speaker 1: a white male aged twenty one to twenty eight. They
- 10:20Speaker 1: labeled him an arrogant underachiever. How do they extrapolate that
- 10:24Speaker 1: specific personality trade from a crime scene?
- 10:27Speaker 2: It's about reading the contradictions and the killer's actions. The
- 10:30Speaker 2: crime is highly organized, the controlled environment, the specific use
- 10:33Speaker 2: of newspapers, the double bagging that requires intelligence and planning.
- 10:37Speaker 2: But choosing to dump the body locally in a heavily
- 10:40Speaker 2: fished river is brazen and risks exposure.
- 10:43Speaker 3: Ah so it implies a massive ego.
- 10:44Speaker 2: Yep, The FBI deduces this is a man who considers
- 10:47Speaker 2: himself vastly superior to law enforcement and highly intelligent, that
- 10:51Speaker 2: likely has a hard time holding down a steady job
- 10:53Speaker 2: because his arrogance makes him resent taking orders from superiors.
- 10:56Speaker 1: The profile goes on to say he drives a late
- 10:58Speaker 1: model car he's in densely proud of, likely has a
- 11:02Speaker 1: juvenile record for weirdly intimate violent acts like biting, and
- 11:07Speaker 1: crucial to our missing items, the profile stated he would
- 11:11Speaker 1: keep souvenirs to fuel his fantasies. Later, this could be
- 11:14Speaker 1: personal items the victor had, like that missing coin, actual
- 11:17Speaker 1: body parts like a severed lower leg.
- 11:20Speaker 2: The profile concludes that this crime was a psychosexually satisfying
- 11:23Speaker 2: event for the killer, but completely impersonal. He wouldn't have
- 11:27Speaker 2: known Kristen beforehand, and he would feel zero remorse.
- 11:30Speaker 1: So if the FBI profile points to a local resident
- 11:33Speaker 1: with a highly controlled private environment, investigators have to figure
- 11:37Speaker 1: out where he took her, which brings us to a massive,
- 11:39Speaker 1: prominent hotel right in downtown Lewiston called the Sackage Wheel Lodge.
- 11:43Speaker 2: On June thirtieth, just four days after Kristen vanishes, a
- 11:46Speaker 2: housekeeper goes into a room to clean. She finds a
- 11:48Speaker 2: bath towel and a hand towel. The larger towel is
- 11:51Speaker 2: saturated in blood. Save for one tiny dry corner, it
- 11:54Speaker 2: is completely soaked.
- 11:55Speaker 1: I have to pause here because this detail is maddening. Well,
- 11:58Speaker 1: I get irritated if a hotel hell housekeeper forgets to
- 12:01Speaker 1: leave extra coffee pods. This housekeeper finds a towel that
- 12:04Speaker 1: looks like a prop from a slasher film, and her
- 12:06Speaker 1: reaction is basically well, laundry day is Tuesday, She tosses
- 12:10Speaker 1: it in her cart, sends it to the wash, and
- 12:12Speaker 1: doesn't even write.
- 12:13Speaker 3: Down the room number. It is absolutely baffling.
- 12:16Speaker 2: It is a staggering failure of basic situational awareness. But incredibly,
- 12:21Speaker 2: she gets a second chance. Ten days later, on July tenth,
- 12:25Speaker 2: she is cleaning room two seventy three and finds more
- 12:28Speaker 2: blood on a padded suitcase stand. This time she finally
- 12:31Speaker 2: notifies her manager and the police are called. The FBI
- 12:34Speaker 2: steps in and processes the room, discovering hair samples.
- 12:37Speaker 1: But this is nineteen eighty one. There's no DNA testing.
- 12:40Speaker 1: You can't just swab a blood drop and match to
- 12:41Speaker 1: a database. So how did they connect hair found in
- 12:45Speaker 1: a hotel room to a girl whose body was pulled
- 12:47Speaker 1: out of a river.
- 12:48Speaker 2: They used microscopic hair analysis. Forensic technicians would place the
- 12:52Speaker 2: found hair and a known sample of Kristen's hair under
- 12:55Speaker 2: a high powered microscope. They aren't looking at DNA, they
- 12:58Speaker 2: are analyzing the physical shit structure. A look at the
- 13:01Speaker 2: pattern of the scales on the hair's outer cuticle, the
- 13:04Speaker 2: thickness of the inner modula, and the distribution of pigment granules, and.
- 13:08Speaker 1: The FBI concluded that the hair in Room two seventy
- 13:11Speaker 1: three was microscopically consistent with kristin David's hair. It wasn't
- 13:15Speaker 1: a one hundred percent definitive match like DNA, but it
- 13:18Speaker 1: was enough to blow the case wide open.
- 13:20Speaker 2: So investigators sprint to the front desk and pull the
- 13:23Speaker 2: registry for Room two seventy three. On June twenty ninth.
- 13:26Speaker 2: The room was rented to a man calling himself Pete Matson.
- 13:29Speaker 1: The desk clerk described him as tallish, maybe five foot
- 13:32Speaker 1: nine to five', eleven with collarlank blondish, hair weighing between
- 13:36Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty one hundred and eighty. Pounds he
- 13:38Speaker 1: filled out the registration card with an address In, Emmett,
- 13:41Speaker 1: idaho which is about five hours, south and listed his
- 13:44Speaker 1: vehicle as a Yellow, oldsmobile complete with a license plate.
- 13:46Speaker 2: Number police run the license plate through. Dispatch it is
- 13:50Speaker 2: a real active, plate but it belongs to a man
- 13:52Speaker 2: Named glenn who lives In, boise Not. Emmett, Furthermore glenn
- 13:56Speaker 2: doesn't drive a Yellow. Oldsmobile he drives A, ford and
- 14:00Speaker 2: when police Contact, glenn he has an airtight. Alibi he
- 14:03Speaker 2: was In california at a family wedding during the, murder
- 14:06Speaker 2: and His ford was safely parked at The Boise airport.
- 14:09Speaker 1: Stop this makes absolutely no. Sense you have a suspect
- 14:12Speaker 1: using a fake, name a fake, address and a license
- 14:14Speaker 1: plate number stolen from a completely unrelated.
- 14:16Speaker 3: Vehicle that's.
- 14:17Speaker 1: Clever but when THE fbi goes to that fake address In,
- 14:20Speaker 1: emmett the person living there actually knows a Real Pete,
- 14:23Speaker 1: madson and that Real Pete madson is a master student
- 14:26Speaker 1: at The university Of idaho And, moscow the exact Town
- 14:29Speaker 1: kristin left. From how does a killer invent an identity
- 14:32Speaker 1: that perfectly matches a real college student from the victim's
- 14:35Speaker 1: town while memorizing the license plate of a Random ford
- 14:38Speaker 1: from an.
- 14:38Speaker 2: Airport it is a mathematical nightmare of. Coincidences the file
- 14:42Speaker 2: show THE fbi did track down the Real Pete, madson
- 14:45Speaker 2: who actually drove An, oldsmobile but he was tentatively ruled.
- 14:49Speaker 2: Out the phantom identity was a dead. End, furthermore later
- 14:53Speaker 2: chemical testing couldn't even confirm the blood on the suitcase
- 14:56Speaker 2: stand was human. Blood the housekeeper's story kept changing and
- 15:00Speaker 2: growing more exaggerated with every police, interview completely destroying her.
- 15:04Speaker 2: Credibility the entire sackage away a lodge led evaporated into, smoke.
- 15:09Speaker 1: Which pushes investigators back out onto the, street desperately looking
- 15:12Speaker 1: for anyone who matches THE fbi, profile and unfortunately they
- 15:15Speaker 1: found a bizarre parade of men who seemed eager to
- 15:18Speaker 1: look like. Monsters there's a guy Named George williamson who
- 15:21Speaker 1: went By. Buzz he closely matched the composite. Sketches he
- 15:24Speaker 1: was incredibly bitter toward women due to a custody, battle
- 15:27Speaker 1: and he voluntarily told police these horrific stories about disemboweling
- 15:30Speaker 1: people during The Vietnam.
- 15:31Speaker 2: War but behavioral profiling requires verifying the baseline. Facts THE
- 15:36Speaker 2: fbi dug Into buzz's military records and discovered he was
- 15:39Speaker 2: never even deployed To. Vietnam he was deeply mentally, ill
- 15:43Speaker 2: suffering from, delusions and prone to making, wild unsubstantiated claims
- 15:47Speaker 2: to feel. Powerful he was ruled.
- 15:49Speaker 1: Out then there was a butcher Named Mike. Spring this
- 15:53Speaker 1: immediately triggered the anatomical knowledge. Theory he crashed his truck
- 15:56Speaker 1: and fled the scene on, foot leaving behind a cache
- 15:59Speaker 1: of large professional butchering. Knives it turned out he was
- 16:02Speaker 1: also using a fake. Name his real name Was Jim,
- 16:05Speaker 1: blunk but police verified he had a solid alibi for
- 16:08Speaker 1: the Day kristen, vanished clearing.
- 16:09Speaker 2: Him, however the most chilling local suspect to emerge from
- 16:13Speaker 2: these files wasn't found through a tip. Line he was
- 16:15Speaker 2: found in a university sports.
- 16:17Speaker 1: Program this detail makes my skin. Crawl in nineteen eighty,
- 16:21Speaker 1: two a student At Washington State, university which is just
- 16:24Speaker 1: across the border incredibly close To, moscow wrote a song
- 16:27Speaker 1: that was printed in a program promoting a local rugby.
- 16:29Speaker 1: Game the song was TITLED I Don't want to go To.
- 16:31Speaker 2: Jail the lyrics of this song are a near, perfect
- 16:35Speaker 2: terrifying mirror of the FBI's psychological profile and the undisclosed
- 16:40Speaker 2: physical evidence Of kristen's.
- 16:41Speaker 1: Murder i'm going to read a few of these lyrics
- 16:44Speaker 1: Keep christen's case in your. Mind the song includes the
- 16:47Speaker 1: LINES i took barbed wire and wrap it around her,
- 16:50Speaker 1: throat through her in the, river just to see if
- 16:52Speaker 1: she would. Float it goes on to describe horrific, mutilation
- 16:56Speaker 1: specifically mentioning breaking a victim's, legs cut out off chunks of,
- 17:00Speaker 1: flesh and keeping a victim's hand as a. Souvenir kristin
- 17:04Speaker 1: was thrown in a, river meticulously, dismembered and a portion
- 17:08Speaker 1: of her leg was kept as a.
- 17:09Speaker 2: Souvenir the parallels are. Undeniable you have this specific mention
- 17:13Speaker 2: of a river, disposal the, dismemberment and the behavioral trait
- 17:16Speaker 2: of taking a. Souvenir when questioned much, later the author
- 17:20Speaker 2: of the song claimed it was simply a, dark drunken
- 17:22Speaker 2: joke meant to hype up his rugby.
- 17:24Speaker 1: Buddies and what did law enforcement? Do absolutely. NOTHING a
- 17:28Speaker 1: local women's rights group found the, program realized the horrifying
- 17:31Speaker 1: connection To Kristin, david and called the student out in the,
- 17:34Speaker 1: newspaper but the police never interviewed.
- 17:36Speaker 2: Him it highlights a severe case of tunnel vision within the.
- 17:39Speaker 2: Investigation law enforcement was so hyper focused on finding physical
- 17:44Speaker 2: evidence like the brown van or the organ license, plate
- 17:47Speaker 2: that they completely bypassed a glaring psychological red flag waving
- 17:50Speaker 2: right in their. Faces they didn't understand how to integrate
- 17:54Speaker 2: behavioral evidence into a physical man.
- 17:56Speaker 1: Hunt there was Also Harry, hatman an escaped convict and
- 17:59Speaker 1: big game. Hunter he lived in a remote cabin In Hell's.
- 18:03Speaker 1: Canyons the couple of hours. Away he had a documented
- 18:06Speaker 1: history of violent crimes against women and was known to Dry.
- 18:08Speaker 1: Vans he perfectly fit the hunter profile we discussed. Earlier
- 18:12Speaker 1: he had the, isolation the anatomical knowledge of breaking down large,
- 18:15Speaker 1: game and the. Proximity but he died by suicide in
- 18:18Speaker 1: nineteen ninety, four taking any potential confessions to the.
- 18:21Speaker 2: Grave, now if you are studying true crime in The Pacific,
- 18:24Speaker 2: northwest you might be wondering why a very specific name
- 18:28Speaker 2: hasn't come. Up in the late seventies and early, eighties
- 18:31Speaker 2: The Lewiston Clarkston valley was played by a series of
- 18:34Speaker 2: unsolved murders and. Disappearances the name most heavily associated with
- 18:39Speaker 2: those crimes Is Lance. Voss he is the local. Bogeyman
- 18:43Speaker 2: yet the case files explicitly show That Lance voss is
- 18:46Speaker 2: conspicuously absent from The Kristen david.
- 18:48Speaker 1: Investigation why rule out the most prolific local, suspect.
- 18:52Speaker 2: Because the modus operande the MO o is entirely. Different
- 18:56Speaker 2: the other victims in the valley weren't dismembered and placed
- 18:58Speaker 2: some plastic bags in a. River dismemberment is an incredibly,
- 19:02Speaker 2: specific labor intensive and psychologically revealing. Method of disposing of a.
- 19:06Speaker 2: Body it requires, time, space and a specific psychological. Drive
- 19:11Speaker 2: it is not something a serial killer just tries out
- 19:13Speaker 2: once on a whim and then.
- 19:14Speaker 1: Abandons which brings our sources to a terrifying modern. Theory
- 19:17Speaker 1: what if THE fbi profile was right about almost everything
- 19:21Speaker 1: except the killer being a permanent local. Resident what if
- 19:23Speaker 1: they were only local for a few.
- 19:25Speaker 2: Months the archival research points to a theory involving a
- 19:28Speaker 2: former military man and his specific assignment in the. Military
- 19:31Speaker 2: he was a medical lab.
- 19:32Speaker 1: Specialist that answers the surgeon versus one hundred debate. Definitively
- 19:37Speaker 1: this is someone with clinical anatomical.
- 19:39Speaker 2: Training, precisely and the geographical footprint of this individual is
- 19:43Speaker 2: what makes the theory so. Compelling he was stationed at
- 19:45Speaker 2: bases all over the Country, Colorado South, Carolina, Idaho, Illinois.
- 19:50Speaker 2: Georgia the theory tracks that in the, seventies, eighties and
- 19:53Speaker 2: nineties wherever this man was, stationed women were, murdered surgically,
- 19:57Speaker 2: dismembered placed in heavy plastic, bags and frequently left near
- 20:00Speaker 2: bodies of.
- 20:01Speaker 1: Water it perfectly Matches kristen's. Case he had the anatomical,
- 20:05Speaker 1: skill the, opportunity and he would have had access to
- 20:08Speaker 1: local newspapers while stationed at the nearby. Base but here's
- 20:11Speaker 1: the thing that will keep you up at night. Today
- 20:14Speaker 1: if you look the suspect, up he looks like a,
- 20:17Speaker 1: happy smiling family man On. Facebook decades, ago while stationed,
- 20:21Speaker 1: overseas he was actually charged with, murder but he beat
- 20:24Speaker 1: the charge on a legal technicality regarding. Jurisdiction he continued to,
- 20:28Speaker 1: serve continued to move around the, country and if you
- 20:30Speaker 1: search public records for his name, today, nothing absolutely zero
- 20:34Speaker 1: digital criminal record pulls.
- 20:36Speaker 3: Up he is a, total blank.
- 20:37Speaker 2: Slight it is the ultimate failure of the justice. System
- 20:40Speaker 2: you have a man with the exact specialized knowledge required
- 20:43Speaker 2: to commit this specific, crime with a geographic history that
- 20:46Speaker 2: perfectly tracks with similar dismemberment crimes across the, nation hiding
- 20:50Speaker 2: in plain sight behind a completely clean public.
- 20:53Speaker 1: Record so what does this all mean for The Christen david.
- 20:56Speaker 1: Investigation we started this deep dive looking for the one
- 20:59Speaker 1: monster hiding on a quiet stretch Of highway ninety. Five
- 21:03Speaker 1: but what unpacking this case file reveals is so much.
- 21:06Speaker 1: Worse this isn't a cold case because the police couldn't
- 21:09Speaker 1: find a. Suspect it's a cold case because the world
- 21:12Speaker 1: is inexplicably full of people who perfectly fit the profile
- 21:15Speaker 1: of a. Monster from the mentally ill making false confessions
- 21:19Speaker 1: for attention to the college students writing odes to, dismemberment
- 21:22Speaker 1: to the big, game hunters hiding in remote, cabins to
- 21:25Speaker 1: a military lab tech leaving a cross country trail of plastic.
- 21:29Speaker 2: Bags it raises a fundamental question about how we view onsolved.
- 21:33Speaker 2: Crimes it underscores the absolute necessity of challenging established. Assumptions
- 21:37Speaker 2: THE fbi profile insisted the killer had to be a
- 21:40Speaker 2: permanent local resident because of the two month old, newspapers
- 21:43Speaker 2: but a military man stationed at a base nearby might
- 21:46Speaker 2: also subscribe to the local paper to blend. In if
- 21:48Speaker 2: investigators get locked into one rigid interpretation of the behavioral,
- 21:52Speaker 2: evidence a killer can slip away simply by getting transferred
- 21:55Speaker 2: to a base in another.
- 21:56Speaker 3: State we want to leave.
- 21:57Speaker 1: You with one final provocative. Thought let's go back to
- 22:01Speaker 1: THAT fbi. Profile the behavioral science unit was certain that
- 22:05Speaker 1: this killer would keep a souvenir to relive the fantasy
- 22:07Speaker 1: of the murder long after the. Event they specifically mentioned
- 22:11Speaker 1: he would take personal items or body Parts kristen's coin
- 22:14Speaker 1: purse was never. Found her right leg from the knee
- 22:17Speaker 1: down was never.
- 22:18Speaker 3: Recovered it is.
- 22:19Speaker 2: A chilling reality of behavioral profiling if that profile is.
- 22:23Speaker 2: Accurate those items didn't just disappear into the. Woods they
- 22:26Speaker 2: were deliberately. Kept they were hidden away in a box
- 22:29Speaker 2: or a trunk or a locked cabinet in someone's.
- 22:31Speaker 1: Home and what happens when a killer eventually. Dies what
- 22:35Speaker 1: happens to the trophies of a man who looked like
- 22:37Speaker 1: a smiling grandfather On. Facebook somewhere out there right, now
- 22:41Speaker 1: someone might be cleaning out an attic or inheriting a
- 22:43Speaker 1: dusty box from a deceased. Relative they might pull out an,
- 22:46Speaker 1: old faded coin, purse completely unaware that they are holding
- 22:49Speaker 1: the final missing piece of The highway ninety five horror