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042 - DadTok Goes to Vanderpump Villa Part 1 · Reality Hits Mat

• Michelle Harris: Welcome back to Reality Hits Matt, I'm your host Michelle. And I'm Matt. Here we are, we're supposed to be starting season four, Mat: Welcome back to Reality Hits Matt, I'm your host Michelle. And I'm Matt. Here we are. We're supposed to be starting season four. Michelle Harris: however we're gonna take a detour today. And that detour is Vanderpump Villa. Vanderpump Villa. Yeah. This is dad. Mat: So this is Dad Talk is the Vanderpump Villa. Michelle Harris: Yeah, so we saw mom talk go to Van, well some of mom talk go to Van de Promville. We saw the drama that came out of that. We know that Marciano works at the villa and he's going to be there. And dad talks making a trip to London. Mat: So he's gonna be there? so And there this is happening during season four, right? So where that's why we're doing this prior to starting season four Okay Michelle Harris: this is happening during season four, right? So that's why we're doing this prior to starting season four. Yeah, so I'm not sure exactly when it happens, but at the reunion, the host Stassi said that Dad Talk had already made their stop by Vanderpump Villa. And like, how did that go? and the guys were like, you're just gonna have to wait and see. So it hadn't aired yet during the reunion filming, but they were filming season four. So somewhere between three and four, they went to the villa. Mat: Okay, and it's Michelle Harris: It is, so. It was different than when the girls went in the sense of like when the girls went they were the only people at the villa. This one seems like they have, it's like actually a hotel now they're having like multiple guests show up. Mat: two episodes Okay, okay Michelle Harris: I'm not really gonna focus on the storylines of other guests going. There's more involved. I'm not even focusing on some of the internal housekeeping drama Mat: there's there's more involved than just the dad talk guys Michelle Harris: going on. I am just focusing on the dad talk ass. Mat: Dad talk, okay. All Michelle Harris: And so this will be part one because I finished the first episode thinking it was only one and then it rolled into the second episode and I was like, well, maybe there's only 10 minutes and then they leave and the next group shows up and then the next group started showing up and they're still there. So I'm like, whoa, I'm not I'm not going to make this because then that would be like an hour and a half long episode. So next week and then we'll start season four. Yes. Mat: right So we'll so we'll do part two next week and then we'll start up season four secret lives more wives Michelle Harris: Yeah. Mat: and then you're also now getting ready to watch Dancing with the Stars. Michelle Harris: getting ready to watch Dancing with the Stars. Yeah, we're recording this early today because Dancing with the Stars airs tonight. Did we talk about the couples that are going to be on it? I think we've talked about it a few times. OK, so I don't think we need to get into it. yes, Dancing with the Stars, Mat: I think we've talked about it a few times. Michelle Harris: part one tonight, part two tomorrow. doing the male dancers tonight and then they're having the female dancers tomorrow. Mat: two hours tonight and two hours tomorrow. my gosh. Okay. All right. Well, let's let's get into let's get into dad talk at the villa here. Michelle Harris: Two hours tomorrow, yeah. So, gotta get my dancing with the stars on. So how the Villa announces who's coming next is they have team meetings with the whole staff. We saw this with the girls. So Lisa is debriefing the staff on who's coming. She says that Jordan is coming as the VIP and he's the guest of honor and he is bringing Jacob, Zach, Chase, Dakota and Mason. To me a little bit of an odd group, but I was like, you know what? Mat: So how the villa announces who's coming next is they have team meetings with whole staff. We saw this with the girls. So Lisa is debriefing the staff on who's coming She says that Jordan is coming as the VIP and he's the guest of honor and he is bringing Jacob, Zach, Chase, Dakota, and Mason. To me a little bit of an odd group, but I was like, you know what? Michelle Harris: Out of the guys in MomTalk, these would be the guys to say yes to this trip. Like, I don't see Connor wanting to go to the villa. Any of that. Yes. Mat: the guys in MomTalk, these would be the guys to say yes to don't see Connor wanting to go to the villa. And at this time Mason is dating Leila? Yes. Okay. I think that's like how we kind the last season. Okay. They're officially dating. Okay. They called Jordan the founder of DadTalk, which I found interesting in this debrief because I don't think it was just him that... Michelle Harris: Yes, yeah, they're officially dating. They called Jordan the founder of Dad Talk, which I found interesting in this debrief because I don't think it was just him that founded it. Like it was the whole group, like when they went to go do their like sex party, like they all got together to do TikTok. So I thought that was interesting. Lisa announces that Marciano will not be in the lineup to greet the men. However, in an interview, she says that in order for Marciano to move on from this, they must sit down together and hash this out. Mat: Okay Okay, I think it's kind of funny that Jordan is the guest of honor the VIP And he's going to Vanderpump where Marciano Michelle Harris: Yeah. Yeah. Mat: is working Michelle Harris: Yeah. So I will say Hagen the butler who looks like he's about 12. He was in the last. Mat: Alright. So I will say Hagen the butler who looks like he's about 12. He was in the last episode we talked about. He is talking mad shit about Marciano breaking up a marriage which then causes Marciano to start going in a spiral and he's like, we're friends, what the fuck dude? Michelle Harris: He was in the last episode we talked about. He is talking mad shit about Marciano breaking up a marriage, which then causes Marciano to start going to spiral. And he's like, I thought we were friends. What the fuck, Marciano then leans on bow who is Stacey's husband. So Stacey was the one that hosted the reunion. So she's at the villa is kind of like Lisa's right hand woman and kind of helps her. But she's not a part of the staff or really officially in it. Mat: Marciano then leans on a bow who is Stassi's husband. So Stassi was the that hosted the reunion. So she's at the villa as kind of like Lisa's right-hand woman and kind of helps her. But she's not a part of the staff or really officially in it. Michelle Harris: She's just kind of there as a character, I guess. So her husband is also there and he's been on reality TV a lot. he Marciano thinks that if anyone can help him with navigating Mat: She's just kind of there as a character, I guess. So her husband is also there, and he's been on reality TV a lot. Marciano thinks that if anyone can help him with navigating. Michelle Harris: being in the spotlight, it would be him. Marciano tells Bo that he lied about sleeping with Jesse and Bo at this point was like. Mat: Right, okay. Michelle Harris: In an interview he's like, I love Marciano, I've gotten to know Marciano, but like, holy shit, does he like make his own drama? like, it's just, he did this to himself and I'm not really sure what to say to him, cause it's not something that someone else did or someone's misunderstanding. It's like, you decided to fucking do that, dude. Like, you gotta own it. So, Bo doesn't have much advice for Marciano, cause this kinda is just Mat: In an interview he's like, love Marciano, I've gotten to know Marciano, but like, holy shit does he like make his own drama? And like, it's just, he did this to himself, didn't know what to say to him, cause it's not something that someone else did or someone's misunderstanding, it's like, you decided to fucking do that. You gotta own it. So Bo doesn't have much advice for Marciano, cause this kinda is just On him. He tells him to Michelle Harris: to Mat: try to focus on other aspects of his life and not the drama and maybe that it will just all sort itself out. Okay. All right. As Dad Talk is pulling up, as a reminder, Marciano is not in this greeting lineup at the front door. is like in the car and he's like looking out the window is like, hey, Marciano, fuck you. And then flips off like the general. Nobody. Just Michelle Harris: try to focus on other aspects of his life and not the drama. And maybe that it will just all sort itself out. As Dad Talk is pulling up, as a reminder, Marciano is not in this greeting lineup at the front door. like in the car and he's like looking out the window. He's like, hey Marciano, fuck you. And then flips off like the general like group. Mat: nobody. Yeah. OK. Calm down. Michelle Harris: Yeah, and I'm like, calm down, dude. Like that's so aggressive Mat: You're like starting it. Michelle Harris: to like start this trip off. Zach then walks in and asks where the man of the hour Marciano is and they tell him that Mat: in and ask where the man of the hour Marciano is and they tell him that Michelle Harris: there's conversations between Jordan and him that would need to happen, that Letha wants to happen before he's introduced to everyone. Side note, all the guys are drinking champagne at this point, or at least they all grabbed a glass, so they're all holding champagne. But then later on, so I did write that, because I found that interesting, especially like Zach and Jacob, which I didn't think that they drank. But then later on, they do have two trays, and they're like, these are alcoholic, those are non-alcoholic. So maybe they had like non-alcoholic champagne too, but I was like, I wonder if they are all drinking. Stassi. Mat: Okay Yeah Okay, okay, yeah Okay Yeah Right Michelle Harris: is then talking to Jordan and Zach joins in and asks if Marciano is there because they had some things planned for him. I'm like, Zach, seriously, calm the fuck down. He is so like, where is he? Where is he? What are you gonna do, bro? Punch him in the face? I'm like. And where does this take place? Mat: and where's this take place Okay Michelle Harris: So the villa every year takes place in a different country and then they host like guests. So this year it's in London, like in a castle looking kind of building. Yeah. mean, I don't think it would be wise to go to another country and like punch someone and start shit. And that's what like, it doesn't seem like a good idea. And that's what like a lot of the like a lot of the staff and interviews are like. Mat: So this year it's in London. a castle kind of building. like punch someone with that. And that's what like a lot of the- like a lot of the staff in interviews are like, Michelle Harris: These men flew to London to confront a man Mat: these men flew to London to confront a man- Michelle Harris: who your wife cheated on you with. they're like, that seems extra. Like, they're all like, what the fuck are we doing here? Mat: your wife cheated on you. Well, he's working. That seems extra. Yeah, yeah. Michelle Harris: It comes out that Marciano and Jordan have met in person before in Vegas and that weekend is the weekend that he found out that Jesse and Marciano were having an emotional affair. Mat: Okay Michelle Harris: And Marciano says that they were trying to just make it seem like everything was normal and hide everything from Jordan, but Jordan went through her phone and discovered everything. Mat: Okay. Michelle Harris: Marciano leaves to go chat with Jordan and Lisa brings in Jordan to her office and says to move forward, the best advice that I have is to just tell the truth. starts with apologizing and Jordan says he doesn't know how to take that apology because up until now he hasn't heard from Marciano when he has had his number. So far the conversation seems like. Mat: Marciano leaves to go chat with Jordan and Lisa brings in Jordan to her office and says to move forward the best advice that I have is to just tell the truth starts with apologizing and Jordan says he doesn't know how to take that apology because up until now he hasn't heard from Marciano when he has had his number so so far the conversation seems like very genuine and then yeah quickly like Jordan flips the switch and his crazy eyes Michelle Harris: very genuine and then quickly like Jordan flips the switch and his crazy eyes come on and I like at that point I'm like this overbearingly uncomfortable and he is totally missing the point and so we'll get into it but like I'm just like where the hell like is this conversation going it was just very confusing Mat: This is overbearingly uncomfortable and he is totally missing the point and so we'll get into it but like I'm just like where the hell is this conversation going It was just very confusing. Jordan says that on top of that Marciano kept trying to talk to Jesse even after Jordan found out which was very disrespectful. Michelle Harris: Jordan says that on top of that, Marciano kept trying to talk to Jesse even after Jordan found out, which was very disrespectful. Marciano says that if he could take it back or change things, he would, and he feels fucking terrible. And Marciano is very emotional at this point, and he is very like being open. Mat: Marciona says that he could take it back or change things he would and he feels fucking terrible and Marciona is very emotional at this point. Okay. He is very like being open. Jordan asked, then why did you lie? And Marciona says that Sheena, who I think we meet her in season four. Okay. Michelle Harris: Jordan asks, then why did you lie? And Marciano says that Sheena, who I think we meet her in season four of Secret of the Summoners, that Sheena and Demi convinced him Jesse was using him. And he was so hurt that he let Demi tell him what to do to get back at her. Mat: Okay, yeah Okay Michelle Harris: Jordan then says, Jessie was placating you because were in a shitty spot, but not because she ever liked you. So immediately was like being honest and open saying, you know, there was feelings there. I had feelings for her. I thought it was, you know, reciprocated. Then Demi got in my head and Jordan's like, yeah, but like Jessie never did like you. Mat: Marciano's like being honest and open saying, you know, there was feelings there. I had feelings for her. I thought it was, you know, reciprocated. Yeah. Then Demi got in my head and Jordan's like, yeah, but like, Jesse never did like you. Okay. Marciano plays along and you can see him kind of pause to see like, should I respond to this? And he just goes, okay, you're probably right. It hurts to hear that, but you're probably right. okay. Yeah. Get into that. Right. Right. And that's when Michelle Harris: Marciano plays along and you can see him kind of pause to see like should I respond to this and he just goes Okay, you're probably right. It hurts to hear that but you're probably right and he just like doesn't want to like get into that with Jordan and that's when Jordan Mat: Jordan kind of snapped and goes, it seemed like you had something to say there. Michelle Harris: kind of snapped he goes it seemed like you had something to say there Mat: And Marciano doubled down and goes, no it hurts, like I was just hurt by it, but like it's right. He goes, no, no, no, no, you really seemed like you had something to say, could say it. And Marciano in an interview goes, careful Jordan, I'm biting my tongue now, but I have a little secret of your own. Michelle Harris: And Marciano doubles down, he goes, no, it hurts, like I was just hurt by it, but like it's right. He goes, no, no, no, no, you really seemed like you had something to say, you should say it. And Marciano in an interview goes, careful Jordan, I'm biting my tongue now, but I have a little secret of your own that I don't think you want people to know. Mat: okay, interesting. Michelle Harris: So during this conversation, Marciano again doubles down and says that Jordan is right. It just hurts because Demi played him like a fiddle. Jordan then asks what actually happened with him and Demi and if they kissed. Marciano says, yes, I kissed her. And then on camera, she told me she loved me and I turned back and I said, I love you too. They show the film of this, of them saying, I love you. Mat: Okay Okay, yeah Michelle Harris: You guys know I'm not the biggest Demi-fan, but the way she says it in the film, I would not take that as a confession of love. Like she was like, I love you. Like, you know, like it was very, you know, with other things added into it, probably not appropriate. But if that were just a one-off, like me seeing someone and like, you know, I got to know them and I'm like, I love you so much. Like you're the best. Like, you know, it was kind of like that tone. So I was like, this is a little bit of a stretch from Marciano. It'd be like we confessed, like he made it seem like they were confessing their love for one another. Mat: Right Okay Right, Michelle Harris: So Jordan tells Marciano that he needs to man the fuck up and call Brett and tell him the truth. Jordan tells Marciano that he is being lied to by Demi and he's falling for it. He even suggests that Marciano take a lie detector test and record the results. Jordan tells Marciano that he needs to own it. And I just like had flashbacks Mat: Okay Okay Michelle Harris: to the Halloween party where he's like, own it, own it to Jace. Mat: Yeah Michelle Harris: Where's Jace in this room? Marcion in an interview says he will not be doing that and wants to stay as far away from Brett and Demi as possible and even to Jordan he is like, yeah, I'm not, I'm not doing that. Marcion is confused about Mat: They're crazy, I'm staying away from them. Michelle Harris: Jordan's motivation right now and wonders why he's trying to defend Brett and Demi but really he should be there to try to defend his own marriage and to hash that part out. Mat: Right, and to me it was a big part of all of the drama. So like, why are you... Yeah. Michelle Harris: all of the drama. Right. So like, why are you? Right. And he was like, that's their marriage and their problem. And that that issue, this has nothing to do with you. The only thing to me got brought into was telling me that I should lie about Jesse. Yeah. Like, let's hash this out between us, because like I'm trying to have this conversation with you. And he goes, I and at one point he goes, I don't even know Brett. Like he's like, I've never met him. I don't know him. Like, why would I call him out of the blue and be like, Mat: Yeah. Yeah. Right. Let me just call this random guy up and. Right. Yeah. Michelle Harris: your wife kissed me when he already has heard the story so why would he believe it from me he's not gonna believe it from me Jordan tells Marciano, this threw me off. So mid conversation, Jordan just seems kind of like over it. So he goes, well, the only reason why we're here is to have the opportunity for Dad Talk to stand on their own two feet. He says that he doesn't Mat: Okay. Michelle Harris: need closure from Marciano and he is there to have fun. So you're there so Dad Talk can separate themselves from Mom Talk, your wives and significant others who have brought you into the spotlight. How fucked up is that reasoning? Mat: Right, right, right. And then I thought, besides Jacob, I thought about all the other men on this trip, and I don't know Mason, I don't really know Chase, but like Dakota, Like the fucking culprits of narcissism that want to be the front runner. Right, right. But also like, couldn't you go do something else? Rather than go to where Marciano is? Right. Michelle Harris: And then I thought besides Jacob, I thought about all the other men on this trip and I don't know Mason. I don't really know Chase, but like Dakota, Zach, Jordan, like the fucking culprits of narcissism that like want to be the front runners. Right. But also like, couldn't you go do something else? Right. Go to where Marciano is. Right. Is that the only, well that's only way that they'll make headlines is to exploit the drama of MomTalk. Yeah, of course. Anyway, was like, that was a wild confession. If that was true, I would have not said that out loud. Like, he's stupid. Mat: Yeah, yeah, of course. Michelle Harris: At this point, Jordan keeps talking over Marciano and just keeps saying, this is what you do and this is what's right and you need to call Brett and like that's what you need to do. And Marciano is saying, it's not his business. And Jordan's like, you made it your business when you kissed his wife. And Marciano tries to explain himself, but Jordan just gets up and walks out of the room. And Marciano looks around and like, he just like looks and sounds defeated. He's like, Jordan, like don't, and he's like, my God. And then. Mat: this point Jordan keeps talking over Marciano and just keeps saying this is what you do and this is what's right and you need to call Brett and that's what you need to do and Marciano is saying it's not his business and Jordan's like you made it your business when you kissed his wife and Marciano tries to explain himself but Jordan just gets up and walks out of the room and Marciano looks around and he just looks and sounds at you and he's like Jordan don't... Michelle Harris: But as Jordan's talking, cause Marciano's trying to think through what he wants to say, so he's like, and he, Jordan's like, Mat: talking because Marcy I'm trying to think through what he wants to say Michelle Harris: and I'm like, you're so annoying. Like Mat: God. Michelle Harris: you can't even have an adult conversation. Like that's not a way to like get at someone. Like you're just being an ass. Mat: Yeah, yeah Okay Michelle Harris: And so during this whole time, a bunch of the staff are like listening in on this conversation and they all come in afterwards to kind of console Marciano because they're like, listen, we know he has made mistakes and we know that his actions aren't right and we know that he feels bad about this. But the way that Jordan was talking to him was like so not right. And then that's when they're like, did he really fly all the way to London to do that? Like they're like, what the hell is going on? And even his ex Mat: Yeah Jordan was talking to him was like so not right and then that's when they're like did he really fly all the way to London to do that? Like what the hell is going on? And even his ex-girlfriend Michelle Harris: girlfriend who's like very upset with Mat: who's like very upset with Michelle Harris: him right now because I think there was some drama with them two early on in this season she's like that was fucked up so she's like not even happy with him and he has like hurt her and so for her to say that I'm like yeah like I think everyone there is on the same page and kind of more level-headed Mat: Okay Yeah, that's Michelle Harris: Jordan walks out of the room and finds the other guys and he was like fucking dumb bitch and the guys are like, what happened? Jordan says that Marcion had an affair with Demi and he won't even admit it to Brett. Mat: and he's like fucking dumb bitch and the guy's like what what Jordan says that Marcio had an affair with Demi and he won't even admit it to Brett Michelle Harris: He told the guys he won't call Brett and so Jordan clocked him for that and that his apology to him means nothing about the Jesse stuff. Mat: He told the guys he won't call Brett and so Jordan clocked him for that and that his apology to him means nothing about the Jesse stuff. Michelle Harris: Dakota at this point calls him out and says, keep bringing up to me, but this is your issue with Jesse and him. And Jordan like shuts Dakota down. And then like Dakota's like, okay, I'm not going to say anything anymore. But I'm like, the only thing that's ever made sense coming out of Dakota's mouth was about this. Mat: Dakota definitely calls him out and says you keep bringing it up to me but this is your issue with Jesse and him. And Jordan shuts Dakota down and then Dakota's like, okay I'm not gonna say anything anymore. But I'm like, the only thing that's ever made sense to me. From Dakota. Michelle Harris: Jordan in an interview says he doesn't want Marciano to be grabbing him drinks at this point and tells the guys that Marciano can be in the basement their whole trip. Okay. So it cuts to Marciano doing miscellaneous tasks like in the kitchen and kind of like just behind the scenes. no, no. Like he's in the kitchen and Mat: Okay I thought you were gonna say in the basement Michelle Harris: then at one point he's in like I think where they steam clothes. That's probably the basement. Probably. And... Mat: That's probably the basement Michelle Harris: he takes a break at one point to kind of like compile himself and he's like on the couch kind like with his hand in his eyes And Hagen the butler needs to get in that room. And one of the one of his co-workers says to him like, Marciano is in there, so I can't get in there right now. Mat: Hagen the butler needs to get in that room and one of the one of his co-workers says to him like Marciano's in there so I can't get in there right now Michelle Harris: And Hagen goes, well, if he needs to go cry about breaking up a marriage, he can go cry somewhere else. And the bartender who apparently doesn't like Marciano was like, well, like that was a bit much. And so there is definitely some internal and he's like, listen, I'm the first person to not be a fan of Marciano, and I do want Mat: And Hagen goes, well, if he needs to go cry about breaking up a marriage, he can go cry somewhere else. jeez. OK. the pretender who apparently doesn't like Marciano was like, whoa, like that was a bit much. Yeah. And so there is definitely some internal, and he's like, listen, I'm the first person to not be a fan of Marciano. And I do understand Michelle Harris: I that all the drama he brings is really annoying so if he needs to let it out fine but that wasn't that much. was like, Mat: that all the drama he brings is really annoying. So if he needs to let it out, fine. Michelle Harris: my. Zach gives a toast before they start dinner. So they have the themed dinner. I forgot what they named this one, but it was like all very nicely decorated, green themed. They had the green drinks. I don't know what green means, but they were all wearing black. So Jordan and Zach had asked all the guys to wear Mat: Okay. Okay. Michelle Harris: black. So Zach gives a toast before they start dinner and he says, let's toast to the VIP Jordan and they are happy to be here to support him. And then said, and also let's toast to Marciano's funeral since they're all wearing black right now. OK, that seems really stupid. Yeah, it's like so uncomfortably immature and childish that like. Mat: So Zach gives a toast before they start dinner and he says, let's toast to the VIP Jordan and they are happy to be here to support him. And then said, and also let's toast to Marciano's funeral since they're all wearing black. OK, that seems really stupid, but all right. It's like so uncomfortably immature and foul. Yeah. Yeah. Michelle Harris: I don't know. It's just like, it's not like you beat him up and like at the same time, Mat: I don't know. I don't know you can beat him up. Right. At the same time. Michelle Harris: all of his coworkers are standing in this room serving you and they're all listening to this being like, what the fuck? Like this group is fucking weird. Like we don't want to hang out with them. Mat: Yeah Yeah Michelle Harris: Chase asked Jordan how he's feeling after his conversation with Marciano and Hannah, his ex-girlfriend's in the room listening in on is definitely interested in what Jordan has to say. But Jordan basically says nothing new. He just regurgitates everything that already happened. Mat: Yeah Michelle Harris: After dinner, they all start drinking with the staff. Jordan in an interview says that I think the girls are at home wondering what's going on. And if he's being honest, it's a nice taste of their own medicine, because when they came, they didn't hear anything. So this levels out the playing field. I'm like, what? So you all the only reason that you came to London was to confront Marciano and be immature about it. Mat: Jordan in it maybe says that I think the girls are at home wondering what's going on and if he's being honest it's a nice taste of their own medicine because when they came they didn't hear anything so this levels out the point. So the only reason that you came to London was to confront Marciano and be immature about it. Michelle Harris: have dad talk, stand on their own two feet and have fun and then get back at your wife? Mat: Yeah Michelle Harris: The dude just gets worse and worse. Like no one put, I mean, maybe keep putting him in front of the camera so we can see his true colors, but like, holy fuck. Like you're a terrible Mat: so we can see his true colors. Holy fuck. Yeah. You're terrible. Michelle Harris: person. After that, a producer asked, so you aren't going to call Jesse this weekend and Jordan doesn't respond. And then he is seen at the bar drinking with all the people. Mat: He's seen at the bar drinking with all the people and he's kind of like looking around but like no one's paying attention to him. Yeah Chase is talking, Chase is the only single one there so he's talking to the females Yeah, yeah So obviously being the narcissist that he is and he's not getting attention he leaves to go FaceTime Jesse Michelle Harris: and he's kind of like looking around, but like no one's paying attention to him. And so like Chase is talking, Chase is the only single one there. So he's talking to all the female single girls and like floating around. So obviously being the narcissist that he is and he's not getting attention, he leaves to go FaceTime Jesse. Mat: Okay Michelle Harris: Jordan calls Jesse to fill her in about his chat with Marciano. And then downstairs meanwhile, so while he's on the phone, Chase and Dakota actually pull Marciona aside for a chat. Marciona tells the guys that Jesse was going through a lot and he was just there for her and it grew into a full-blown emotional affair. But it did get to the point where they were saying, love you to one another. He says even after Jordan found out, they were still talking and at some point he did feel like Jessie broke up with him which hurt because Jessie was saying she wanted to leave Jordan. He tells the guys that Jessie didn't know how to leave because of the kids so they both kept saying to one another maybe one day, like he didn't want to pressure her to have to leave. Mat: Right, Right, right, okay like Michelle Harris: The guys are kind of mind blown by this because to this point, Jordan and Jesse have been saying like it was to other people or maybe it was just Jordan. No, it wasn't an emotional affair. they didn't like really, didn't like, it was an emotional affair, but she didn't really care about him. She didn't really love him. So Dakota thinks that this changes everything from what they were told if Jesse actually did feel that way. And Marciano goes, she knows how I felt and she fucking like, she like knows it. Mat: Yeah Michelle Harris: She knows that I was serious. She knows that I was in love with her. She knows that. And so both Chase and Dakota are kind of mind blown at this point. Mat: Yeah Yeah Michelle Harris: Jesse on the FaceTime is asking Jordan if Chase is interested in anyone. And he goes, I'm not sure because he's like having his own conversations with other people. Jesse asked if there's any cute girls on the staff. And he goes, I don't know any of their names. And then Jesse is like, you don't know anyone's names. Mat: Jessie on the FaceTime is asking Jordan if Chase is interested in anyone and he goes, I'm not sure because he's like having his own conversations with other people. Jessie asks if there's any cute girls on the staff and he goes, I don't know any of their names and then Jessie's like, you don't know anyone's names? She hangs up the phone by saying go have fun, play spin the bottle and he's like, you don't mean that. She's like, I was just kidding. Michelle Harris: She hangs up the phone by saying, have fun, play spin the bottle. And he's like, you don't mean that. And she's like, I was just kidding. And like, she's basically like, just go have fun. Like it's TV, like you're there and like, what are you doing FaceTimeing me? That's kind of like the vibe I got from this phone call. They all get into the hot tub to play do or drink. So kind Mat: Right, right, yeah, right Michelle Harris: of like truth or dare, but like you just drink if you don't do it. They tell Chase to Georgie. So Georgie is another guest that's at the villa. She is Stassi's newly divorced sister. Okay. So she is definitely their single ready to mingle. And Chase goes over and makes out with Georgie. Zach then tells Chase to either jump in the pool naked or kiss the other redhead in the hot tub. Mat: Okay Okay So she's definitely there, single ready to mingle. And Chase goes over and makes out with Georgie. Zach then tells Chase to either jump in the pool naked or kiss the other redhead in the hot tub. Michelle Harris: And then Chase starts making out with Meredith, who's the other redhead in the hot tub. Chase and Meredith that night end up hooking up together. And the next morning, Georgie, I don't think Georgie knew that, but the next morning, Georgie is telling Stassi that she made out with Chase. This sounds like that, let's marry Harry now. Yeah. Mat: Okay This sounds like let's marry Harry now Michelle Harris: Stassi says she doesn't want the wrath of mom talk coming for her and at this point I'm like, well, he's single. He just made out with her like it's fine and like Stassi goes overboard at one point they were having dinner like like when dad talks having dinner they were having their own dinner like as guests and Like they're like choosing to her divorce and then Stassi in front of her husband was like being divorced is kind of a flex and I'm like kind of statement is that What weird statement is that so Stassi sometimes? Mat: Yeah, it's Chase. Yeah. Right. So sometimes it makes me uncomfortable. Michelle Harris: good makes me uncomfortable but yeah anyway Chase and Mason tell Stassi that they think there's more to the story that Jordan doesn't know but they don't know if it's their place anymore Stassi says as a fan of mom talk she needs to get down to the truth and she needs to have a conversation with Jordan I'm like do you really Mat: Chase and Mason tell Stassi that they think there's more to the story that Jordan doesn't know, but they don't know if it's their place anymore. Stassi says as a fan of MomTalk, she needs to get down to the truth and to have a conversation with Jordan. Do you really? We need more drama on TV is what she's, is what she really means. Yeah, pretty much. I got hired for the drama. Yeah, the more drama, the more money I make. So we're getting to... Michelle Harris: Yeah, pretty much I got hired for the drama I need to earn my paycheck today So we're getting towards the end of the this this episode and Lisa pulls Marciana aside to have a conversation and then Stacey approaches Jordan to have a conversation Lisa says that her and Stacey are leaving because she has business in London for a couple days But she wants to make sure that with dad talk being here for two more full days that things aren't gonna blow up Mat: Okay Hold on Michelle Harris: Lisa's asking Marciano in a separate convo. Actually, let's wait on that. So Stasi approaches Jordan and says basically like stop lying like I hate liars and I can tell that you're not telling the full truth and basically like you know the extent of everything. Mat: okay. Michelle Harris: Jordan admits that, I am downplaying it to try to protect my kids. And Jordan starts getting very emotional. He says that he doesn't want anything more to come out. So him and Jesse are kind of trying to play this down because they're trying to work through it. Yeah. Mat: Jordan admits that yeah, I am downplaying it to try to protect my kids and Jordan starts getting very emotional. He says that he doesn't want anything more to come out. So him and Jesse are kind of trying to play this down because they're trying to work through it. Why are you there? Like, isn't more going to come out? Like the more you're on TV, the more you're in the spotlight, the more you're doing all this bullshit. So do you want to protect your kids or not? Michelle Harris: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. However, Stassi in an interview says, I'm not sure I can believe him. He has an emotionally manipulative way about him. OK. So Stassi is like cutting through that shit real quick. Yeah. Mat: Okay Yeah, Michelle Harris: Meanwhile, Lisa is asking Marciano in a separate conversation if he knows the history with Jordan and Jesse, like how did they get to the point where like things were so bad? And Marciano admits that he really thought Jordan would be able to relate to his mistake because Jordan made the same one. And Lisa's like, he cheated on Jesse? And he goes, no. Jessie was married when they met and Jessie cheated on her husband with Jordan and that's how Jordan got Jessie. Okay, interesting. And so Lisa's like, that is like the definition of hypocrisy right now. What Marzona did and now you're Mat: Jesse was married when they met and Jesse cheated on her husband with her. So, Jordan got Jesse. Okay. Interesting. And so, Lisa's like, that is like the definition of hypocrisy. Right. You did what Marciano did. Michelle Harris: like berating him to like. Mat: Yeah, yeah. Michelle Harris: you know, own up to your shit, like all that. Like, dude, you ended up with the girl in the same scenario. And now I'm like, Marciano, you're with her. Like, she's done this twice now. Right. Hopefully things are real good between you two because Mat: Yeah Yeah Right right Michelle Harris: she ain't afraid to leave. And that's the end of the episode. Wow. OK. Interesting. Yep. Mat: Wow, okay, interesting. too drama filled, but some drama there. I'll probably see some more. Michelle Harris: Mm-hmm. Drama there. Yeah. We're see some more. yeah, for sure. I mean, I know that Stassi confronts Jordan after she finds out about this. because Lisa... She literally goes find... This is a sneak peek, Mat: okay. because Lisa tells. Michelle Harris: but she goes to find Lisa. Lisa goes, so get this. And then she goes, fuck no, and turns around and is like, you Mat: So get this, and then she goes, Right back. Michelle Harris: just fucking just sat there crying. that's funny. Okay. All right. Mat: that's funny. Okay. Alright. That will pick it back up next Thursday. Yeah. And then after that, we'll get into season four, secret lives of normal lives. Yeah. Great. Awesome. Alright. Well, thanks for listening everybody. Be sure to follow us on Instagram at reality hits Matt. That's reality hits MAT. Just one TMS. Same on TikTok. Be sure to subscribe if you're watching on YouTube. If you're listening on the podcast platforms, rate review like comment whatever you can do there i don't and if you any questions or comments drop us a line reality hits matt at gmail dot com thanks for listening Michelle Harris: And if you have any questions or comments, drop us a line. RealityHitsMatt at gmail.com. Thanks for listening. Thank you.