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Weekend Recap after Iowa State beats K-State, Bill Seals on the Cyclones & Mitch Holthus talks Chiefs · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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  Hi, good afternoon. Welcome to Miller and Condon.
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  On a Monday, the Iowa Sports Radio Network back with you for
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  the next block of six hours of Iowa based programming.
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  Trent Condon, myself, Ken Miller, we'll start things off
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  and take you until 2:00. Here's what's coming up on our
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  program here in the next couple of hours.
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  We will start about 25 minutes with Bill Seals who covers Iowa
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  State. He was not in Ireland, but we
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  will pick Bill's brain on what lies ahead, what he saw,
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  etcetera, what he expects, maybe some surprises that saw the
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  field. Bill Seals on Iowa State and
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  their win over at K State coming up here at 12:25.
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  Mitch, Walt is going to give us a couple of bonus days and he'll
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  start with today at 12:45. So there will be an additional I
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  think, 3 days of daily Chiefs training camp reports.
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  Papa John's throughout the state of Iowa sponsor those.
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  So those that'll get to us about 12:45 as the Chiefs have
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  finished up as everybody has pre season games.
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  And now we'll look ahead in their case to a week from Friday
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  night over in Brazil in our number 2, Matt Snyder.
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  Trent and I will talk baseball. The latest on MLB.
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  This is the final Monday for Matt to join us.
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  He'll shift to Tuesday's going forward as Monday's just too
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  busy with with college football. But Matt Snyder on MLB, if
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  you're a fan of Major League Baseball, trust you like that
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  segment. So the hosts certainly do.
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  And then we will get Scott Dockerman, who covers college
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  football for The Athletic. We will get the doc's thoughts
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  on the upcoming Iowa season, what he saw this past weekend,
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  what he expects to see, some of the marquee games that will take
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  place coming up on Saturday night.
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  And by about 6:30 on Saturday night, I hope the Hawks are up
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  about 48 to zip so we can turn and watch real games because
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  this Albany team. So it's 37 1/2.
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  And I defer to you because if there's someone in the audience
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  that would know, it would probably be you.
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  Has there been a bigger underdog at Kennick Stadium than this
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  group of Great Danes that will make their way to Iowa City this
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  weekend? The team that was picked 12th
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  out of 14 in their cup? This has to be as big of a point
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  spread as we've seen. I think there's been bigger ones
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  in the past, Yeah. I mean, I remember that awful
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  Akron team that came to town. I think they were like a 42.
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  Point at least we know what conference they played it's.
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  True. It's true.
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  Yeah, This is that they're not even in the colonial, they're in
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  something else. Cologne.
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  Yet I've never heard of it but. Not the CAA.
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  That's a good basketball league. This is a different league that
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  Albany's in. Oh boy, a whole lot of PU.
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  Then I have a coach. That's true.
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  Well, there's the other thing. They have an interim coach, but
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  they got rid of their coach or their coach left to be an
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  analyst. Well, he saw how bad his team
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  was going to be. An analyst at Penn State, not
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  he's not going to be a defensive when we hear those guys going
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  from you don't. Get to coach.
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  You are an. Analyst, you're not on the
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  field. And he said, you know what?
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  The hell with being a head coach, taking the upgrade
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  employment upgrade. Unbelievable.
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  Anyways, it'll be good to see just so you know, a tune up,
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  etcetera. You won't see squat in advance
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  of Cyhawk, but it'll be good for the home standing fanbase to see
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  Gronowski. But let's start what we saw this
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  weekend. And and I picked K State.
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  So me and Copa, I think, I think Lucas and I were the only ones
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  in the building that did Lucas. If you weren't, if you had Iowa
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  State, I apologize, but I think it was you and I that were on
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  the K state bandwagon. Trent, there were so many
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  positives in this game and I think maybe as big positive I
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  took away was adjustments at halftime and maybe particularly
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  that offensive line because that what a difference, what a
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  difference 1/2 makes. And going into the locker room,
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  Rocco Beck looked like a different quarterback coming out
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  of it. Dominic Orange.
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  Apparently Scott Nach was in here before the show and he and
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  he fed me this little nugget and I wish I had it right.
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  I I think I've got it right that there were 58 defensive snaps
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  for Iowa State. The big citrus played fifty of
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  them. Wow, 50 of them while getting
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  double and triple teamed. This is from PFF.
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  He played 45 of the snaps. Of the 50.
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  Eight yeah, from their grades, but yes, regardless, for a 320
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  LB defensive tackle game one, yeah, that's a lot of snaps.
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  No, you're right. And they needed him for every
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  single one. Of them and Ozigo was really
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  good Dane Brogler did a nice the draft guy over at the athletic
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  was really good at what he does. He made a video of Dom Orange
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  after the game on over the weekend.
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  So it was it was good to see. It really was.
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  I mean, this was a massive, massive victory for Iowa State
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  as far as where this puts him. Because, you know, all of a
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  sudden K State's looking up at a no one hole in a tiebreaker
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  against the team that's probably going to be there with you at
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  the end. That wasn't the case.
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  There's some concerns, I think for Iowa State, but I think
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  we'll start focusing on the positives.
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  And I saw a lot. I mean, these linebackers.
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  Caleb Bacon, for God's sakes. North Iowa Conference.
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  Unbelievable. Glad you pointed that out on X
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  Fellow N Iowa Conference alum doing what he did.
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  He was terrific in the football game.
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  Marcus Neil was unbelievable. Oh my God.
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  You know, that's one of those names.
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  We saw him last year, but not like.
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  This. Right, we saw right, OK, Yep,
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  getting his feet wet good. Yep.
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  And then to see that performance on people been and it's so say
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  we have these conversation. We have Bill Seals.
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  We talked to Bill and April and May and June and July and here
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  in August, and you hear the name and then when you see it.
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  OK, that's real. Eskelsen.
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  Yeah, he's another one. Receptions, him and Overby were
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  out there a ton. Now.
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  We found out throughout last week that Seoul and Townsend
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  were both banged up. Right.
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  And of course, that's the case. But those guys look good.
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  They did and over be 6 foot 5 and Eskelsen.
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  We saw him last year and he and he and he can play crisp route
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  running. Yes, absolutely.
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  The tight ends were terrific in the football game.
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  A tight end that didn't catch a pass.
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  I don't think that I had no idea who he is.
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  He makes a block on Rocco bets touchdown.
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  So they were they were lined up in a heavy with all the tight
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  ends on the left side of the line right then they they split
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  out. They they moved away from the
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  line and before the ball is snapped, here comes Roscamp back
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  against what the the way the play was going because Beck went
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  to his right, they split up to the left.
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  He comes back across the line, he picks off the left defensive
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  end. I don't know if there's a
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  safety. I don't know if it's defensive
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  end, who it was. He is responsible.
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  Well, Beck ran it in. So he did, you know, he did his
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  job. But he makes an unbelievable
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  block. And and another one of those
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  tight ends, Keaton Roskopf, I'll tell you another kid who caught
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  my eye. No.
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  And again, never heard of him before.
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  Van Denter is a red ass. Oh, that kid will not shut up.
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  He talks and talks and talks. He was in it on the sideline.
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  He was in it when he got beat. He, it doesn't matter that we
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  all know that kid, right? We all have played with him.
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  He played any level of sport. You know that kid, he showed up
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  from the first quarter, the fourth quarter, and he wasn't
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  stopping moving and his mouth wasn't stop moving.
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  He plays more because I'm going to watch him every time he's.
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  On my eyes when he was out there were transferred.
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  Van Denter's first name. We need to.
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  I need to know his whole name. Something Van Denter 36 God, I
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  loved watching him play. He's a Wagyu.
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  Was really good in the football game.
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  Batten town passes. Carson, Van Denton.
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  Carson Van Denton, Where's he from?
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  Wisconsin kid. Wisconsin up by mil up north of
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  Milwaukee because we were looking that up too.
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  Like where did this? Kid come from so I hope he
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  doesn't like get carried away and you know you'd hate to draw
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  any laundry, but then then you get in the in the doghouse.
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  Just stay on the field, young man.
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  You're fun to watch. Look at this is a huge building
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  moment. I mean, the safeties were they
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  got beat a couple of times. Corners were fine.
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  Linebackers were flying all over the field like we anticipated
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  they were. The front 7 was terrific.
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  The offensive line looked like they a different offensive line
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  in the second-half. Roccobecht is Oh my God, no to
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  Oh my God, you know, I mean in in a positive way.
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  That's what you're going to get from him.
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  The tight ends are back. I still don't think you have a
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  kicker. I'm still not.
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  I mean, I get it. He made the biggest kick in
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  maybe a decade. I still yes, still can't trust
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  Conradi. He's going to miss a big kick,
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  Mark my words, probably make one, but it's going to miss one
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  in a big spot. Your punter Perkins, there was
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  the first punt of the game and and one of the newcomers, Trey
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  Bell, was the gunner on the play.
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  He just lit that dude up of terrific punt by Perkins and and
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  Bell. But no, no, man, it's so good to
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  be watching football. I'm not sure what the television
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  number will do, but you know what?
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  You're watching college football.
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  You're watching that game. Yes, Right.
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  I think it'll do a tremendous number.
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  Yeah. It doesn't have Florida State
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  last year, not only Florida State, a top 10 Florida State
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  team coming off an undefeated season and getting upset, right?
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  That's a hard bar to clear, but it's going to do a great.
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  Number. No, it's going to.
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  Do a big number. It was a good one.
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  So you mentioned a lot of the guys in mine on my list of ones.
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  You mentioned the tight end position.
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  So we love, we both love Breamer, Yeah.
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  And Gabe Berkel, maybe the way is almost underrated now
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  because. Bramer's back.
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  Because Bramer's back and we have so many expectations for
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  him, but then you throw in Tyler Moore and he's kind of an H back
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  now. That's kind of the role that
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  he's filled into. But just big physical.
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  I know Cooper Alexander had. To try.
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  Yeah, that's bad. But the rest of his game blocked
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  for yes, that guy blocks his ass off.
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  I I think you mentioned Roscop that just mentioned five guys at
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  tight end at Iowa State. Folks, this is, we don't talk
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  about depth like this at Iowa State.
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  There's plenty of years where there's top and talent, but a
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  couple injuries hit at the wrong spot.
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  The depth of this team is on the like anything that I can
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  remember, the wide receiver position, there's a bunch of
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  guys we'll see who steps up, but two guys that we didn't talk
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  about a ton are your top 2 receivers on Saturday.
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  I think that says a lot. The running backroom, you got to
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  boost up. Yeah.
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  So what happened there? Because it was the the usage was
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  Hanson. You got the 1st and 4th almost
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  like right. I don't know if it was defensive
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  front that they that was throwing him for a loop.
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  But Hanson of the two like Sammy, you can see the potential
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  and you see why he's on the field, right?
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  He he, he teases you a little bit.
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  I mean, he's got that burst. And he's got a gear unlike
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  anybody else on there in the running.
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  Back, absolutely, but Hanson's just a.
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  He's tough. He's gonna go through you.
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  I don't want you just want to go around.
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  He wants to go right through you, and that's how he plays.
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  But unfortunately, when you play like that, you know you're gonna
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  pay a price at some point. Campbell's going for it when he
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  did. Up three, fourth down, kick the
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  field goal, you're up six, screaming at my TV.
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  Go. You just.
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  And you know what, I know this is hindsight.
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  It's more easy for me to say no. If they would have got stopped,
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  I would have defended the play. I would have been right there
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  with you. That is the time that you go for
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  it. Because how many times you go up
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  Six. Oh my God, you can't stop them.
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  And they know they have to get the touchdown.
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  I think it changes the mentality on both sides.
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  Entirely. Trained that having to have a
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  touchdown and it's something that we can't measure it's just
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  that field thing it is but it feels different where all right
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  the team gets to the 25 yards all right we got the field goal
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  down and then they start to pull back the reins a little bit and
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  then you play for overtime and said you get it you know it's.
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  Game over, it's game over. Unless you put what in the end
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  zone? Well.
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  I'm glad he was down. I thought he was down.
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  I'm glad they made the right call.
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  And then you know what? I'm sorry for you folks that had
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  the over, but the only way you could have lost that game was to
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  score. Not that it was likely to
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  happen, but we've seen teams that have a 99 percentile of
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  winning the game actually get beat in whatever sport it is.
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  So kneel down, take the win, take your headset off, start
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  celebrating on the sidelines as the coaching staff was able to
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  do What else From the weekend of well, there was only limited
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  amount of games. Do you have any other take away
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  on college football? Because I have one.
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  I really enjoyed the story of the Hawaii Kid.
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  Which, Oh yeah, I didn't see that.
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  So the kid that hits the game winner against the field goal?
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  Yep, Yep, he is from Tokyo. Oh, the kid that learned on
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  YouTube. He comes to America, but doesn't
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  just want to go to any school. He wants to go to a school in
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  the Midwest. So he finds a JUCO up in Ohio
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  because he figured nobody there would speak Japanese.
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  He didn't speak English when he showed up on campus.
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  What year is this? How many years ago is this?
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  I think like a while back, okay, he shows up on campus, doesn't
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  know English, but gets a tryout, talks his way onto a team, gets
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  a tryout with the team. He wasn't overly successful.
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  You look at his numbers and I looked him up in JUCO, but a kid
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  that has taught himself English, he's now an English major.
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  Oh my God, he also has some other ridiculous degree, but a
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  kid that had never kicked a football before until he saw it
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  and said that looks fun, I'm going to try it.
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  And then he kicks a game winner to beat Stanford for the Rainbow
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  Warriors. Yeah, I, I've watched most of
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  the final, I don't know, 8 minutes of that game.
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  I don't know where it was. Probably baseball.
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  I don't know what, what. Regardless, my take away was
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  Jayden Daniels. Jayden Daniels.
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  Yeah. Trent, I, I don't know if Fresno
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  states any good. Jaylen Daniels was really good.
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  He was really good, 18 to 20, rushed for about 50 yards.
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  I don't know if Kansas can be good, but Jaylen Daniels at
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  least for that one day, looked, looked the part.
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  What was your, what, what, what's your take away back to
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  the Iowa State game just for just a second.
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  Avery Johnson, where are you on him?
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  Is he going to ever come near the hype?
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  No, I don't think he is either. I, I, I think that we, maybe our
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  expectations got too high. He's a nice quarterback.
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  Well, when you run off Will Howard, right?
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  And you know, last year. Here's the other thing, though.
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  He set the program record for passing touchdowns last.
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  Year, which is remarkable to me. More than Michael Bishop and
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  Elle Roberson and on and on and on.
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  We can play that game as he beat all those guys.
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  So you have that component of it.
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  He just leaves you wanting more. It feels like the untapped
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  potential. I don't know if you're ever
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  going to get it. Why don't they run a more?
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  We talked about this Friday the games Kansas State lost a year
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  ago outside of the Iowa State game when she was OK running it,
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  but great. Those are the games that they
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  lost. It is how many wait 2121 yards.
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  21 yards and the opportunities on top of it. 8 attempts.
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  And how many of those were sacks?
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  Couple. One maybe, I think only one.
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  So he just leaves you wanting. He's talented.
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  It's not a talent thing. With it, you can see the talent.
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  It's just I don't know if it's the offensive system they're
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  learning too. 01 more thing back to Iowa State, too.
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  It was tackles early on, struggled the offensive line,
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  made the big jump forward. I would love to know how much
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  the, the Burr illness, yeah, how much that really changed, you
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  know, because they didn't play anybody else on the offensive
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  line. It was those five guys and.
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  That was nobody. Else, nobody else really to Pro
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  Football Focus 75 steps for Barrett, Miller, Boniface, Neil
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  and Black. Wow.
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  Because we know that we're, we anticipate there was going to be
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  some type of rotation. Especially when you look as bad
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  as you do in the first half and nobody else came in.
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  Right. And that's what I was shocked by
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  when I saw that. I'm like, there had to be a
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  drive in, you know, middle of the second quarter, but somebody
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  else came in, that wasn't the case.
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  I want to see now what that leads to rotational and we'll
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  see what kind of game they're going to get against South
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  Dakota. But it if, if you know, even if
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  South Dakota's hanging around in the middle of the third quarter,
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  what that rotation's going to look like.
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  Can't give it back now. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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  You're off on the right foot to take care of business this week.
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  I love the fact that Campbell's clearly got their attention.
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  I mean, they, I don't know if they got to even celebrate on
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  the plane because he was planting the South Dakota game
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  in their minds right off the bat.
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  And you almost have to because, as you say, you cannot give it
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  back now. All right, so have we seen the
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  depth chart for Iowa yet? I know it's coming out at some
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  point today. I have not seen it and I've I
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  haven't been on Twitter since the show started.
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  Guessing if it if it does. Pop up.
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  We'll I haven't got the e-mail yet.
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  You haven't got it? Nope.
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  So still waiting. What did you?
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  Think of the the spot on on 4th down when when Johnson carried
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  the ball trying to and I was I was shocked they went for that
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  in that part of the field. What are you doing climbing?
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  I don't know if he got it or he didn't.
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  How could you? You couldn't on the spot before
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  that to set up that Fort down play.
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  That was ridiculous. I don't remember.
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  I think it was it felt like it was about a yard different than
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  what they actually spotted it. Maybe he's like, no, we kind of
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  got away with one here. I guess so.
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  Inconsistent, right? There's got to be a way, there's
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  got to be a way we can get avoid this.
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  But you know what, it's a good thing the play was called that.
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  He was short on the field. Did how did your sync up go with
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  the TV? Early on?
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  I I could brutal. I could only imagine how you
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  were. So I'm watching Taylor
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  McGregor's mouth move and nothing's coming out of it,
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  right? And Obama tweeted at us, too.
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  Is it just my TV? No, it's everybody's TV.
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  But look at it. I, I like the environment.
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  I do, I know a lot of people want the game to be played here,
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  not give up a game. I, I saw Doc Fuller sent this to
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  me that K State apparently got $2.5 million because it was
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  their home game. Iowa State got like, I don't
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  know, travel for everybody, hotels, all their meals were
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  paid for. I think both teams get a
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  percentage of the merchandise sales.
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  But like, it was just great to see college football.
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  It was great to see one of our two teams that were actually,
• 17:40
  you know, in the spotlight as Iowa State was against K State.
• 17:44
  And if you're a college football fan, you were tuned in.
• 17:47
  All right, let's get a quick call in here, then we'll take a
• 17:49
  break. We've got Bill Seals coming up.
• 17:50
  More Bill Seals on Iowa State conversation lies ahead.
• 17:54
  Mitch Holt is going to give us a couple of bonus days this week.
• 17:57
  12:45-ish for Mitch. A baseball in the second hour
• 18:01
  with Matt Snyder and Scott Dockerman on college football.
• 18:04
  Hello, Jeff. How are you?
• 18:05
  Good. Guys, how are you guys?
• 18:08
  How was your summer? I haven't heard from you since
• 18:10
  they cut down the Nets. It was.
• 18:13
  So I had surgery, so I've been kind of off and on.
• 18:15
  I had surgery on my calf. So it's just been a long
• 18:17
  recovery, but I'm getting healthier.
• 18:20
  Footballs around the corner and let's not wish away football
• 18:23
  because basketball is right there as well.
• 18:24
  But it's good to hear from you guys.
• 18:28
  You know, you guys kind of touched base on the adjustment
• 18:31
  that was made and maybe I missed this or you guys haven't touched
• 18:33
  on it yet. But, you know, they brought out
• 18:35
  Hanson to start the game and then randomly he was not in the
• 18:39
  game at all for the third quarter, little parts of the
• 18:42
  second and then he comes in at the fourth quarter and he has
• 18:44
  juice. The offensive lines kind of
• 18:46
  doing their thing. I thought that was a huge deal,
• 18:49
  huge momentum to really start moving the rock 456 yards.
• 18:54
  Abu didn't really do anything. I was kind of hoping that he
• 18:56
  can, you know, knock one off. But we know what Hansen can do.
• 19:00
  If we can get Hansen going and Abu could pop one off, I think
• 19:03
  that's huge. Secondly, you guys touched on
• 19:07
  Rocco. My thing with him is it's these
• 19:10
  mental errors. It could be a pick here, it
• 19:13
  could be, you know, that toss he threw to a Boo, that was a
• 19:16
  fumble. I understand the big plays.
• 19:19
  I get it. Some of the throws he had were
• 19:21
  amazing. But it's those you talk about.
• 19:23
  The kicker, some of those mistakes will lose in the game.
• 19:27
  A pick here or the fumble there. The momentum, you know, the
• 19:31
  momentum was huge there. I get it, It was the first
• 19:33
  quarter, but it's those small things that you know they can't
• 19:36
  do, but they got through that game.
• 19:38
  A success. You look at their schedule, I've
• 19:41
  heard you guys talk about it. They get through South Dakota,
• 19:44
  we get that in Iowa, they don't play the other ranked teams all
• 19:47
  season and I know we don't want to we don't want to look away
• 19:50
  into, you know, November and December guys.
• 19:53
  You look at their schedule and you take care of business and
• 19:56
  you hear the togetherness you hear all those adjectives that
• 19:59
  Campbell likes to stay. But when we move forward in this
• 20:01
  season, they're going to be probably favored outside of that
• 20:04
  Iowa game. I don't know.
• 20:05
  I know it's really close outside that Iowa game.
• 20:08
  They're probably going to be favored in every.
• 20:11
  Yeah, maybe Arizona State. We'll we'll see.
• 20:13
  Jeff, thanks for the call. Glad you're on the bend.
• 20:15
  We'll talk to you throughout the next eight months.
• 20:18
  Good to hear from. You bye, bye.
• 20:19
  Guys, see you. Yeah, we hear from German
• 20:21
  football and college basketball season.
• 20:23
  When will they be a dog? They're going to be a dog, and
• 20:26
  they're favored by 2 1/2 right now over Arizona State.
• 20:28
  No, over Iowa. So they're favored in that game.
• 20:34
  Looking at projected numbers, yeah, they're like a point and a
• 20:36
  half favorite, like it's Arizona State.
• 20:40
  Well, there's onward and upward they're.
• 20:42
  Going to be favored in every game.
• 20:43
  That's wild. That's wild as it sits right
• 20:45
  now. What are they this week?
• 20:46
  15 1/2 something like that. Miller and Condon underway on a
• 20:50
  Monday. Glad you're with us.
• 20:51
  Glad college football is with us.
• 20:53
  It's the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
• 21:08
  By coming up on 1230 Miller and Condon on a Monday, Bill seals
• 21:11
  momentarily cyclonereport.com part of on three media Thunder.
• 21:16
  Joe has been on hold throughout the break.
• 21:19
  Give him some time here. Joe, thanks for being patient.
• 21:21
  How are you? Great brother.
• 21:24
  Hey, real quick, Avery Johnson. Hell of a Spurs point guard.
• 21:27
  But in all seriousness. He wants to fight.
• 21:31
  To me to me he's like Adrian Martinez 2 point O, both
• 21:35
  talented as a Catholic. Wedding is long, but at the end
• 21:38
  of the day you're left with a prom date that gave you the
• 21:40
  wrong address. What was the Catholic wedding
• 21:43
  again? The Catholic wedding is long.
• 21:45
  They're both. That's really good.
• 21:48
  And Avery Johnson are both as talented as a Catholic wedding
• 21:51
  is. Long, I've never heard that
• 21:52
  before. Joe, appreciate the call.
• 21:54
  Thanks for thanks for holding on.
• 21:55
  We'll talk to you throughout the year.
• 21:58
  There he goes. Have you heard that one?
• 21:59
  I had That's a good one. Now I've sat through many
• 22:02
  Catholic weddings and plenty of mass growing up and.
• 22:06
  We're not ripping the Catholic religion.
• 22:09
  No. Good blog, I know.
• 22:11
  Bill Seals joins the program. Hello, Bill Seals, how are you?
• 22:15
  cyclonereport.com press conference is tomorrow.
• 22:19
  What do you know? Bill Seals, how are you?
• 22:22
  I'm doing well just navigating through it's a more traditional
• 22:27
  game week now. I'm kind of enjoying settling
• 22:30
  into that and I'm sure Iowa State that coaches and players
• 22:35
  are as well after getting in from Dublin early yesterday
• 22:39
  afternoon. Classes start today and we're
• 22:41
  more into a traditional game week now with South Dakota on
• 22:45
  the schedule for Saturday. Yeah, no doubt about.
• 22:47
  So they got to be students today after recovering from the from
• 22:51
  the jet lag, etcetera, and playing a football game and then
• 22:54
  back to it. So how are they handling this
• 22:56
  bill? Obviously, as you said, they got
• 22:57
  home. I think I think I saw on on X
• 23:00
  the planes landed. KCCI had a crew there maybe
• 23:03
  around one O clock say. So they get back to aims on how
• 23:06
  long it took to load the buses, say 3.
• 23:08
  What, what, what was the the schedule from their day off or,
• 23:12
  or do you know how they handled yesterday and will do so today?
• 23:17
  Well, I think that they actually usually practice or they do
• 23:21
  something on Sunday and then I believe Monday is a day off.
• 23:26
  I don't know, I might, I might have those off.
• 23:28
  It's been a year since since we were told a lot of these things.
• 23:32
  But I I believe Sunday they actually get back at it and, and
• 23:36
  do a little something. Maybe it's recovery.
• 23:39
  I'm sure it'll be recovery to an extent once they got back to the
• 23:42
  facilities there. But yeah, I think we'll we'll
• 23:46
  see how really navigate through this.
• 23:48
  A lot of it's been well publicized that none of these
• 23:51
  college teams that have played in this Aer Lingus Classic have
• 23:55
  gone on to have very good season.
• 23:56
  So Kansas State, Iowa State, both up against that.
• 24:00
  But I tell you what, the Cyclones, you know, got a nice
• 24:03
  win over a contender in in K State.
• 24:06
  So I guess I like their chances to kind of buck that trend a
• 24:10
  little better than Kansas State maybe right now.
• 24:13
  Yeah, definitely in good shape in that one.
• 24:15
  And no start, that's going to go a long, long ways.
• 24:17
  Keep in there. And when we get to tiebreakers,
• 24:18
  and yes, I say when tiebreakers are going to be a part of it at
• 24:21
  some point, that one's going to be important.
• 24:24
  So we talked at the top about a couple of guys, Dom Ornish at at
• 24:27
  the forefront of what he did, the amount of snaps that he
• 24:30
  played and just absolutely plugging things up and making
• 24:32
  plays all over the place. I want to go to the rest of the
• 24:35
  defensive line though. We got to see a little bit of
• 24:37
  Hawk. He came in for Orange in the
• 24:38
  middle there. Avantre Malone, the kid from
• 24:40
  Tulsa that came in in the transfer portal.
• 24:43
  McDonough, we've heard a lot about him.
• 24:45
  He made a bad mistake on that zone read that Johnson read and
• 24:48
  he's just over pursued that one. But overall, what else did you
• 24:51
  see upfront outside of the dominant play from Dominic
• 24:54
  Orange? Well, yeah, they they had it.
• 24:58
  One, one thing actually that kind of stood out to me was you
• 25:01
  looked at the snap counts and they were very clear in what the
• 25:06
  first and second teams are because Orange as the AGU
• 25:10
  McDonough each play 45 snaps. Hawk, Gilbert, Malone each
• 25:15
  played 14. So they were rotating guys in
• 25:19
  and out. But I think what for, for
• 25:23
  Orange, I believe it was the goal was like 60 percent of
• 25:29
  plays that they wanted to get him on the field for.
• 25:32
  He certainly surpassed that. And the other played 59 snaps
• 25:37
  total. He plays 45 of them.
• 25:39
  That's huge in a game like this that the tackling grade on him,
• 25:44
  pass rush grade on him. He doesn't do a lot of pass
• 25:48
  rushing, but I think those graded out well above average.
• 25:52
  So yeah, he was the the stand out on the defensive side, at
• 25:56
  least on that the defensive front.
• 25:58
  So it was nice to see a little bit more of Zamir Hawk.
• 26:03
  We got saw him a little bit last season, but he came in and I
• 26:07
  think graded out a lot better than he had and in any of his
• 26:11
  work last year out there. So Eziagu though, gosh, he was
• 26:17
  revelation. Yeah, he didn't grade out very
• 26:20
  well and in tackling, but he was a presence upfront.
• 26:25
  I think what had a quarterback hurry had a pass or two, maybe 2
• 26:30
  passes broken up. So yeah, him, him getting
• 26:35
  getting up to like 285 lbs now he's a guy that looks like he
• 26:40
  can be one that holds the anchor on on that strong side end
• 26:44
  position. The linebackers, we we thought
• 26:47
  that there was going to be a really good group and and they
• 26:49
  were on on Saturday and Bacon's all over the field.
• 26:52
  Willits played his you know what off Ebel was?
• 26:55
  He was noticeable as well. How about Lovett getting out
• 26:58
  there? It was good to see.
• 27:00
  Here's the one question, though, and and he's hurt again.
• 27:02
  Damn it. What's the I mean, I, I'm
• 27:05
  guessing on Wednesday, we'll see day-to-day is my is my, you
• 27:09
  know, thought process at this point because Brazina did not
• 27:12
  see the field again, did he? Do you know once he got.
• 27:15
  Hurt. No, I think I and yeah, and I
• 27:17
  think he's probably going to be on that questionable line for
• 27:20
  this week. Once we, well, we'll, we'll,
• 27:24
  we'll get a little bit out of mad, I'm sure on that tomorrow.
• 27:27
  But then we'll see kind of how things shake up on Wednesday on
• 27:32
  that first availability report. But yeah, I would anticipate
• 27:35
  Brazina's going to be questionable for that.
• 27:38
  He did play 19 snaps, graded out as one of the better tacklers in
• 27:44
  in the middle of that defense as far as the linebackers go.
• 27:47
  But yeah, we'll we'll have to see how.
• 27:50
  I mean, he he looked great in the preseason when we when we
• 27:54
  got him or we physically look good.
• 27:57
  We didn't watch any practices, but gosh, he is a specimen now
• 28:01
  compared to what he was as a true freshman.
• 28:03
  So yeah, they'll look to try and get him back in there.
• 28:07
  But yeah, inside though, you, you mentioned Kenny, Caleb
• 28:10
  Bacon. Great to see him back in there.
• 28:13
  He plays 46 of those 59 defensive snaps.
• 28:16
  Certainly Aldazone, Love, love it played 13 snaps, but yeah, it
• 28:22
  appears it's going to Cooper Evil played 40.
• 28:25
  So I think between Bacon and Evil, those are your top 2
• 28:28
  inside backers. Lovett was hurt a lot last
• 28:32
  season, so they got him back out there.
• 28:34
  I think he came back though, pretty strong toward the end of
• 28:37
  the season. But they're looking for big
• 28:39
  things for him. He's probably the past rushing
• 28:44
  inside linebacker of that group. So a lot to be expected from
• 28:48
  him. And we'll we'll see who steps in
• 28:50
  for Brizina if he is indeed out for this game on Saturday.
• 28:54
  Is it likely you can go through the season playing 7 linebackers
• 28:57
  every game or is this going to be, hey, we just got to see
• 29:00
  these guys in action and we're going to start to pare that
• 29:03
  thing down as we get deeper into the season?
• 29:06
  Well, I, that's a good, that's a good question.
• 29:09
  I, I think they're going to play at least 6, maybe maybe 7 that
• 29:14
  that's going to be a pretty solid rotation of guys.
• 29:16
  And you've got what they, I think they said nine.
• 29:19
  Well, there are 9 total that had played on Saturdays, play
• 29:23
  defense, not just special teams. So they're going to utilize that
• 29:26
  depth and then I think it's going to serve them well once
• 29:29
  they get into the heart of that conference schedule.
• 29:32
  Help me out with the running back rotation.
• 29:34
  It was seemingly and it wasn't. This wasn't hard fast. 1st and
• 29:38
  4th Hanson, 2nd and 3rd Sama. It seemed like that's how it
• 29:42
  played out. I don't think that's going to be
• 29:44
  the case. Was that defensive fronts?
• 29:46
  Were they trying to do something different when?
• 29:48
  Because the the offensive line seemingly struggled in the first
• 29:51
  half, They were great in the second-half.
• 29:53
  I don't know if K State did something they weren't
• 29:55
  expecting. Was that adjustment on their
• 29:56
  part? What in particular with the
• 29:59
  running backs Hanson and Sama? How do you think those carries
• 30:01
  will work themselves? Out.
• 30:03
  Well, I, I think Kansas State surprised them a little, a
• 30:06
  little bit because this was the defense that had moved to a
• 30:08
  three man front in in recent years.
• 30:11
  They played a little more four man.
• 30:15
  That took a little bit of adjustment that I think what
• 30:19
  you're going to see though, as far as these running backs go,
• 30:22
  they're going to ride the, the, the hot hand.
• 30:24
  I mean, Sama got a lot of those. You mentioned those carries in
• 30:28
  the second and third. I guess they, they liked how
• 30:32
  that was going. He didn't put up a big
• 30:34
  statistical day like average yardage wise, but I think they
• 30:38
  they got what they needed out of him.
• 30:40
  And then you're going to see Carson Hanson as the closer down
• 30:45
  the stretch in a in a game like this, a physical game like this,
• 30:48
  you know, you're going to get in this Farmageddon rivalry.
• 30:51
  And Hanson was money though down the stretch, what, 10 carries
• 30:55
  for 60 yards just in the fourth quarter alone.
• 30:59
  And then that was huge to get that and and to balance kind of
• 31:03
  counteract their counter, what the teams are going to see from
• 31:07
  Rocco backed. And you got a running back like
• 31:09
  Hanson that grinds out six yards of carry in the final 15
• 31:13
  minutes. Offensive line, we find out
• 31:15
  Burr's not going to be there, didn't make the trip because of
• 31:17
  his illness, and then they just play the five offensive lineman,
• 31:21
  no rotation at all. Just take a guess because I know
• 31:24
  it's that at this point in time. Burr say he's healthy this week,
• 31:27
  he's ready to go. How much of rotation do you
• 31:30
  anticipate this week with your top 6 then?
• 31:33
  Well, you maybe you'll see a little rotation on the inside.
• 31:38
  Supposedly what what Campbell said is that he was sick.
• 31:43
  We'll we'll see if that was the case or if it was some kind of
• 31:46
  injury involved there, but that was what we heard from Campbell.
• 31:53
  So I, I think when Bohr is ready to go, he's going to, he's going
• 31:57
  to start. He's one of the best 5, easily
• 32:00
  one of the best 5 offensive lineman and that Jim Boniface,
• 32:04
  gosh, there well, 66.4 total grade.
• 32:08
  He was the third of the five offensive lineman that's that
• 32:12
  started on Saturday. He's earned the right to stay in
• 32:14
  there as the center. He started all what 13 games in
• 32:20
  2023 there. He's got the experience.
• 32:22
  He graded out well. He was one of the better ones in
• 32:27
  in run blocking. So he's earned the right again
• 32:30
  that to start at center and in Week 2 and a boar's ready to go.
• 32:35
  Maybe they took take a look at Brendan Black.
• 32:37
  He was the lowest of those five and but I I still think Black
• 32:41
  though, is that is someone and maybe they try to rotate through
• 32:45
  and you never know what bore as well.
• 32:47
  A coming back off of sickness or illness or injury, whatever it
• 32:52
  is. Maybe they don't want to throw
• 32:54
  him out there for every snap and and black becomes kind of a
• 32:57
  rotational guy there on the inside of that online.
• 33:02
  Fascinating to see how it plays out.
• 33:04
  That was a major, major win picking off K State.
• 33:07
  So how do you see the pecking order now, Bill, now the K
• 33:11
  State's gone down? How did you, what were your
• 33:13
  thoughts prior to and what's the top of this conference look like
• 33:17
  in your mind? Well, I still think that you
• 33:20
  could put you could probably put 7, maybe 8 teams, put them up on
• 33:27
  a dart board and throw a dart at at 1:00 and then and that could
• 33:31
  be your champion I guess so to speak.
• 33:33
  I think it's still this is a league or any, anyone can can
• 33:37
  win it. Kansas State didn't like
• 33:40
  certainly going over there and then losing a home game on
• 33:44
  foreign soil and, and going oh, and one.
• 33:47
  But we've seen this K State team win 9 games each of the last
• 33:51
  three years. So they're not out of the
• 33:53
  running by any means. But I think just with the way
• 33:56
  this Iowa State schedule sets up and, and who they play at the,
• 34:01
  the, the, the tough teams that they do play a lot of them they
• 34:04
  get at home. This was a big one to get,
• 34:07
  especially since it was a quote UN quote Rd. game and the beat K
• 34:11
  state. I think they've set themselves
• 34:13
  up well to be one of those teams in contention.
• 34:17
  But again, I think at this point you still look at this as seven,
• 34:21
  maybe 8 teams that that all could compete.
• 34:24
  Can be fascinating to watch play out and grateful that we get to
• 34:27
  Bill Seals. Thank you.
• 34:29
  You got a busy week. I'm guessing it's
• 34:30
  cycleandreport.com part of on three media press conferences
• 34:33
  and player avails. You'll get to those tomorrow.
• 34:36
  Bill. Thank you very much.
• 34:37
  Appreciate you coming on. I guess he said thank you didn't
• 34:42
  have to, but I think that's what he said.
• 34:44
  We'll take your time out. We'll come back.
• 34:46
  Mitch Holt is going to join us Miller in Condon.
• 34:48
  We're on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
• 34:52
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• 34:55
  Network. We are with you until 2O clock.
• 34:58
  Matt Snyder on Major League Baseball, Scott Docman from the
• 35:00
  Athletic on college football. Still to come, Mitch Holtis back
• 35:05
  with us for a couple of extra bonus days.
• 35:07
  Boy, the Donaldsons, they made business pumping out those
• 35:09
  specials. We will get to that.
• 35:11
  Good to talk to you. Mitch Holtis, how are you?
• 35:15
  Great. Yeah, the roving R&D Papa John's
• 35:18
  truck has gone from Reynolds to Mitchellville.
• 35:21
  They unveiled this. We're unveiling it today in
• 35:24
  Altoona. So I'm doing OK These two days,
• 35:27
  though, Ken and Trent are two of the most difficult, just because
• 35:31
  you're cutting 38 guys and, you know, they look for another
• 35:35
  place to land or you try to get him on the practice squad
• 35:38
  willing. But we're going to be down to 53
• 35:40
  by 3:00 tomorrow afternoon and have our practice squad put
• 35:44
  together by 3:00 on Wednesday afternoon.
• 35:47
  So this is always a flurry of activity.
• 35:49
  It's like the start of the New York Stock Exchange.
• 35:51
  But it's days that guys get cut. And that is, it's just no fun.
• 35:55
  There's no way to desensitize from it.
• 35:58
  So when you when you go through the season, you watch the three
• 36:00
  pre season games from from your eye, what is there a concern
• 36:05
  amongst the position group Mitch that maybe this area needs
• 36:08
  shoring up? I mean, there can't be many of
• 36:10
  them, but is there, is there something in your mind that you
• 36:13
  know, Veitch and company might be looking to add a body or two
• 36:16
  with that position? I think probably depth on the
• 36:21
  defensive line, but they've already addressed it.
• 36:23
  We got Derek Noddy back, which is a bonus, and that's that
• 36:29
  fifth guy on the inside that I actually talked about with you
• 36:32
  guys on Friday. I would say DB, particularly
• 36:36
  corner, and I've even mentioned that in our preview before the
• 36:40
  game on Friday night, was the fact that you've got 5 safeties
• 36:45
  that you feel pretty good about, and that is moving Christian
• 36:48
  Roland Wallace to safety. He's your 5th safety, but your
• 36:52
  five corners is still uncertain. Now corner is a really hard
• 36:57
  place to go to go get, you know, check the waiver wire and pick
• 37:02
  up a good corner that's going to be good for you.
• 37:05
  So Christian Fulton played a lot the other night, didn't have a
• 37:07
  great night, didn't have a terrible night, But what do you
• 37:11
  have other than Mcguffey that you can count on?
• 37:13
  And you're going to be nickel dime.
• 37:15
  And so I would say that right now would be the biggest one or
• 37:19
  running back. Is there a fourth running back?
• 37:22
  Because I mentioned at the the other night the fact that we
• 37:25
  picked up some IJP Ryan and Kareem Hunt on August the 26th a
• 37:31
  year ago. So you scan the wire, they're
• 37:34
  looking for like the right fit at running back.
• 37:37
  Other than that, this this roster is ready to go.
• 37:40
  Have kind of a a different type of question for you.
• 37:42
  So one of my best friends took his son down to the game Friday
• 37:46
  night and he's a Broncos fan. His son, though, his 10 year old
• 37:51
  son is a Chiefs fan. And I'm going to be guess
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  there's a lot of those arguments, a lot of households
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  across the country. My daughter has an affinity for
• 37:58
  the Chiefs. There has to be a lot of that.
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  What it's like now to be this team that is beloved, what the
• 38:04
  Patriots were and so many people jumping on the bandwagon, what
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  the 70s Steelers were, America's team with the Cowboys.
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  What's it like now to be in this position where it's not just the
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  Kansas City metro or even kind of the Midwest here?
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  This is a national organization. You ask a way better question,
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  Trent, than you know, there's a lot of research on this.
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  We've done a lot of research. When do you pick your team for
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  life? You know the age.
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  How? What is it?
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  9 or 10 years old life. So here's what happens.
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  How many people in Iowa when we play the Steelers at home there
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  will be agave Steeler fans. People go man, Pittsburgh really
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  travels. No, it's all the Steeler
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  families from Missouri, Kansas, Iowa, Nebraska that grew up with
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  the Steeler. Grandpa loved him in the 70s and
• 38:50
  the 10 year old loved the Steelers because Dad loved him
• 38:52
  or Grandpa loved him and now that one's a grandpa.
• 38:56
  And then the kids become Steeler fans and oh, the Steelers in
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  Kansas City. This is my one shot to see them.
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  I will pay premium for the tickets through a ticket service
• 39:06
  so that I can go to the game and watch the Steelers.
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  It's a big deal. The fact that the Chiefs have
• 39:11
  been a big deal now for over a decade.
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  You've got a lot of 8-9 and 10 year olds, gals and guys who
• 39:19
  have those in their team for life.
• 39:21
  I've seen it in baseball, seen it in football and it's for
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  scientific. I mean, we again, we've done
• 39:26
  exhaustive research on this. So this is something even if the
• 39:30
  Chiefs come out of this era, you're still going to have
• 39:33
  people who will take this team and the Chiefs and take them all
• 39:36
  the way through their lives. It's just crazy the way that
• 39:39
  works. Saint Louis Cardinal baseball
• 39:41
  fans, it's the same Cubs baseball fans.
• 39:44
  How many, how many? And I know the I Cubs are there,
• 39:47
  but there's a lot of folks in Des Moines that just love the
• 39:49
  Cubs because grandma or grandpa loved the Cubs.
• 39:52
  I think it's about that age where you start to identify your
• 39:54
  favorite pizza Mitch as well. I know that happened to me.
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  Well, here it is. We got the special, we're in
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  corking it all week. OK, what is it?
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  You can get two large one topping pizzas.
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  Two large, one topping pieces, 999 each.
• 40:09
  We talk about food costs going up.
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  The Donaldsons are going the other way.
• 40:13
  I mean, we got football coming up, high school football.
• 40:16
  Iowa State's gets a big win. Hawkeyes are coming here.
• 40:19
  So it's going to be a two large, one topping pizzas only, 999
• 40:25
  each. Papa John's, check it out.
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  We will and we'll talk to you tomorrow and Wednesday.
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  Thank you. Mitch Holtis, appreciate this
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  little bonus. We really do.
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  Thank you. You got it from Altoona to the
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  next stop. Hopefully Ankeny we'll find out.
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  Mitch Holtis, the voice of the Kansas City Chiefs. 2 large
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  pizzas. What was the price 99099?
• 40:46
  That is a good deal. It is all right.
• 40:48
  We're going to put the football on the back burner for the time
• 40:51
  being. Talk a little MLB with our guy
• 40:54
  Matt Snide. They're still playing baseball,
• 40:55
  huh? They are.
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  OK. They are.
• 40:57
  I thought after the Twins, you know, sold it off, they're just
• 41:00
  going to cancel the season. No, Cubs are.
• 41:01
  Within 5 I know. They are.
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  Here they come, our 2 is next. Miller and Condon talking sports
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  with you on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.