Latest / Beyond The Horizon / Mega Edition: Jeffrey Epstein And The Police Report That Exposed Him (Part 14-17) (11/7/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
- 0:04Speaker 1: In this episode, we're going to dive right back in
- 0:06Speaker 1: to the Palm Beach Police Report and pick up where
- 0:10Speaker 1: we left off. And once again, to do that, we're
- 0:13Speaker 1: picking up with the narrative of Joseph Rakari. I made
- 0:17Speaker 1: contact with Mr. Redacted, father of Redacted, who was told
- 0:21Speaker 1: that I wished to interview his daughter. Mr. Redacted stated
- 0:24Speaker 1: he was aware and had spoken with his daughter about
- 0:27Speaker 1: the incident. He stated that his daughter had previously told
- 0:31Speaker 1: him that she was hired to model lingerie at a
- 0:34Speaker 1: Palm Beach mansion. Mr. Redacted stated that he knew nothing
- 0:37Speaker 1: else about what she did when she went to work. Mr.
- 0:41Speaker 1: Redacted advised he would cooperate with the investigation and make
- 0:45Speaker 1: his daughter available for interviews. I asked if she was
- 0:49Speaker 1: available for an interview. Redacted stated she was not home
- 0:52Speaker 1: at the moment. I informed him that I would make
- 0:54Speaker 1: contact with her at a later time. Mr. Redacted expressed
- 0:58Speaker 1: his interest. And the resolution in this matter, as he
- 1:01Speaker 1: stated this information, has affected his daughter emotionally. On January 4th, 2005,
- 1:08Speaker 1: I acquired the subpoenas from the state attorney's office for
- 1:11Speaker 1: Singular Wireless, Metro PCS, Verizon, Bell South, Telecommunications, and Sprint
- 1:18Speaker 1: for the unknown telephone numbers from Sarah Kellan's cellular telephone.
- 1:22Speaker 1: The subpoenas were sent to the respective telephone carriers for
- 1:26Speaker 1: subscriber information. I received a telephone call from State Attorney's
- 1:31Speaker 1: Office who informed me that the former houseman for Jeffrey Epstein,
- 1:35Speaker 1: Alfredo Rodriguez, was present at the State Attorney's Office for
- 1:39Speaker 1: an interview. Rodriguez was issued an investigative subpoena for an
- 1:43Speaker 1: interview on the ongoings at Epstein's house. During his employ,
- 1:48Speaker 1: I responded to the State Attorney's Office and encountered Mr.
- 1:51Speaker 1: Rodriguez waiting in the lobby. I brought Mr. Rodriguez to
- 1:55Speaker 1: the interview room. During the sworn tape statement, Mr. Rodriguez
- 1:59Speaker 1: stated he was employed by Jeffrey Epstein for approximately six months.
- 2:03Speaker 1: He was referred by associates, and his employment lasted the
- 2:06Speaker 1: months of November 2004 through May 2005. His responsibilities as
- 2:12Speaker 1: house manager included being the butler, chauffeur, chef, houseman, run
- 2:17Speaker 1: errands for Mr. Epstein, and provide for Mr. Epstein's guests.
- 2:21Speaker 1: Rodriguez advised he had very limited contact with Mr. Epstein,
- 2:26Speaker 1: If Rodriguez needed to relay a message to Mr. Epstein,
- 2:29Speaker 1: he would have to notify Epstein's secretary in New York City,
- 2:32Speaker 1: who would then notify Epstein's personal assistant, Sarah, who would
- 2:35Speaker 1: relay the message to Epstein. Rodriguez stated Epstein did not
- 2:39Speaker 1: want to see or hear the staff when he was
- 2:41Speaker 1: in the residence. I asked Rodriguez if Epstein received many
- 2:45Speaker 1: guests during his stay in Palm Beach. Rodriguez advised he
- 2:48Speaker 1: had many guests. I asked specifically about masseuses coming to
- 2:52Speaker 1: the house. Rodriguez stated that he would have two massages
- 2:55Speaker 1: a day. Epstein would have one massage in the morning
- 2:59Speaker 1: and one massage in the afternoon every day that he
- 3:02Speaker 1: was in residence. Rodriguez stated he would be informed to
- 3:06Speaker 1: expect someone and make them comfortable until either Sarah or
- 3:10Speaker 1: Epstein would meet with them. Rodriguez stated once the masseuses
- 3:14Speaker 1: would arrive, he would allow them entry into the kitchen
- 3:17Speaker 1: area and offer them something to drink or eat. They
- 3:21Speaker 1: would then Be encountered by either Sarah or Epstein. They
- 3:24Speaker 1: would be taken upstairs to provide the massage. I asked
- 3:27Speaker 1: Rodriguez if any of the masseuses appeared young in age.
- 3:31Speaker 1: He advised he didn't ask their ages but felt they
- 3:33Speaker 1: were very young. Rodriguez stated they ate like his own
- 3:38Speaker 1: daughter who is in high school. Rodriguez stated they would
- 3:41Speaker 1: eat tons of cereal and drink milk all the time.
- 3:44Speaker 1: Rodriguez stated the girls that would come appear to be
- 3:47Speaker 1: too young to be masseuses. He stated one time under
- 3:50Speaker 1: Epstein's direction, He delivered a dozen roses to Redacted's high
- 3:55Speaker 1: school for one of the girls that came to provide
- 3:57Speaker 1: a massage. He knew the girls were still in high
- 4:00Speaker 1: school and were of high school age. I asked Rodriguez
- 4:03Speaker 1: about the massages. He felt there was a lot more
- 4:07Speaker 1: going on than just massages. He would clean Mr. Epstein's
- 4:10Speaker 1: bedroom after the alleged massages and would discover massager, vibrators,
- 4:16Speaker 1: and sex toys scattered on the floor. He also said
- 4:19Speaker 1: he would wipe down the vibrators and sex toys and
- 4:22Speaker 1: put them away in an armoire. He described the armoire
- 4:25Speaker 1: as a small wood armoire which was on the wall
- 4:28Speaker 1: close to Epstein's bed. Epstein ordered Rodriguez to go to
- 4:32Speaker 1: the dollar rent-a-car and rent a car for the same
- 4:35Speaker 1: girl he brought the roses to so that she could
- 4:38Speaker 1: drive herself to Epstein's house without incident. Rodriguez said the
- 4:42Speaker 1: girl always needed rides to and from the house. Rodriguez
- 4:46Speaker 1: referred to himself as a human ATM machine and was
- 4:49Speaker 1: ordered by Epstein to maintain a minimum balance of $ 2, 000
- 4:52Speaker 1: on him at all times. When a girl would come
- 4:56Speaker 1: by the house and Mr. Epstein was either not in
- 4:59Speaker 1: residence or was not at home at the time, Rodriguez
- 5:02Speaker 1: was to provide the girl several hundred dollars for their
- 5:05Speaker 1: time and to notify Epstein the amount they were given.
- 5:08Speaker 1: Epstein also ordered Rodriguez to purchase several gifts and provide
- 5:12Speaker 1: them as tips to the girls. I asked what kind
- 5:15Speaker 1: of gifts. Rodriguez stated he purchased iPods, jewelry, anything the
- 5:19Speaker 1: girls would want. Rodriguez stated the amount of girls that
- 5:22Speaker 1: came to the house was approximately 15. Each of the
- 5:26Speaker 1: girls knew each other and all seemed to know at
- 5:29Speaker 1: Redacted High School who Mr. Epstein was. When asked to
- 5:32Speaker 1: identify these girls, Rodriguez stated that he could not at
- 5:36Speaker 1: the moment, but knew he wrote their names down on
- 5:38Speaker 1: a journal he kept during his employ with Mr. Epstein.
- 5:42Speaker 1: He kept a journal in the event he needed to
- 5:44Speaker 1: explain either to Mr. Epstein or his assistants what was
- 5:48Speaker 1: done at the house or who visited the house. As
- 5:51Speaker 1: he stated, he was in charge of Mr. Epstein's personal
- 5:54Speaker 1: security while in Palm Beach. I informed him that I
- 5:58Speaker 1: would need to view this journal to which he stated
- 6:00Speaker 1: he would research the book and contact me to provide
- 6:03Speaker 1: the book. The interview was concluded and I left the area.
- 6:07Speaker 1: I returned back to the police station where the microcassette
- 6:10Speaker 1: was placed into evidence. At approximately 7.30pm, I was notified
- 6:14Speaker 1: Rodriguez located the journal and would call me on January 5th,
- 6:19Speaker 1: 2005 to provide the journal. The investigation continues. The narrative
- 6:24Speaker 1: now is still Detective Ricari. On January 5th, 2006, I
- 6:29Speaker 1: attempted to meet with Alfredo Rodriguez to recover the folder
- 6:33Speaker 1: or journal in which he kept the notes that were
- 6:36Speaker 1: given to him during his employ with Mr. Jeffrey Epstein.
- 6:39Speaker 1: He kept this folder to justify what he did during
- 6:42Speaker 1: his employ should the need arise to justify what occurred
- 6:45Speaker 1: with the monies he had kept or any questions as
- 6:48Speaker 1: to the petty cash he withdrew from the household account
- 6:51Speaker 1: from the bank. At approximately 10 p.m., I attempted contact
- 6:55Speaker 1: with Mr. Rodriguez and discovered he was assisting his wife
- 6:59Speaker 1: at her place of employment and would not be able
- 7:01Speaker 1: to meet with me. Mr. Rodriguez stated he would meet
- 7:04Speaker 1: with me January 6, 2006 in Broward County in the
- 7:08Speaker 1: morning hours. On January 6, 2006, at approximately 9 a.m.,
- 7:13Speaker 1: I received a telephone call from Mr. Rodriguez, who advised
- 7:16Speaker 1: he had the file in hand and would be traveling
- 7:18Speaker 1: northbound to meet me in Broward County. At 10.50 a.m.,
- 7:22Speaker 1: I met with Alfredo Rodriguez in the parking lot of
- 7:25Speaker 1: Bank of America in Boca Raton on Yamato Road, a
- 7:29Speaker 1: military trail known as the Polo Center. Rodriguez produced a
- 7:33Speaker 1: green folder which contained documents, a note with Mr. Epstein's
- 7:37Speaker 1: stationery with direction to deliver a bucket of roses to
- 7:40Speaker 1: Redacted's High School after Redacted's High School drama performance. Also
- 7:45Speaker 1: in the same note was directions to rent a car
- 7:48Speaker 1: for Redacted and directions to extend the rental contract. I
- 7:52Speaker 1: returned to the Palm Beach Police Station and placed the
- 7:54Speaker 1: folder into evidence. I received a fax from Verizon from
- 7:59Speaker 1: the subpoena request Sent on 1406 for telephone number redacted,
- 8:03Speaker 1: the number is registered to Dr. Perry Bard from West
- 8:07Speaker 1: Palm Beach. Dr. Bard is a chiropractor and has an
- 8:10Speaker 1: office located redacted in West Palm Beach. The cell number
- 8:15Speaker 1: is Dr. Bard's personal cellular number. On January 9, 2006,
- 8:20Speaker 1: Detective Caristo and I traveled to redacted in Palm Beach
- 8:24Speaker 1: Gardens in an attempt to locate Johanna Schoberg. who had
- 8:27Speaker 1: been previously seen on the property and identified through her
- 8:31Speaker 1: Florida driver's license and Florida license plate. A business card
- 8:35Speaker 1: was left for her to return my call. We then
- 8:37Speaker 1: traveled to the Redacted Foundation and located Redacted. Redacted agreed
- 8:42Speaker 1: to speak with us and in a private room within
- 8:45Speaker 1: the school provided us a taped statement. During the statement,
- 8:49Speaker 1: Redacted advised that when she was 15 or 16 years
- 8:52Speaker 1: of age, she was taken to Jeffrey Epstein's house by
- 8:55Speaker 1: her associate. Redacted Redacted stated that this occurred late May
- 9:01Speaker 1: 2004 or early June 2004. She was told that she
- 9:04Speaker 1: could model lingerie for money for a wealthy Palm Beacher.
- 9:07Speaker 1: She remembered they traveled by yellow cab from their residence
- 9:11Speaker 1: in West Palm Beach to Epstein's house. She remembered encountering
- 9:15Speaker 1: Epstein at the front door during the evening hours. He
- 9:18Speaker 1: introduced himself and brought them into the kitchen so that
- 9:21Speaker 1: the chef could prepare something for them to eat. After
- 9:25Speaker 1: having a meal, Redacted and Epstein brought Redacted upstairs to
- 9:29Speaker 1: a master bedroom, which had a large bathroom. She observed
- 9:33Speaker 1: a large style shower, sauna, and there was a large
- 9:36Speaker 1: massage bed also in the bathroom. Epstein entered the room
- 9:40Speaker 1: within the bathroom and came out wearing only a towel.
- 9:44Speaker 1: Redacted said that they would provide a massage on his feet.
- 9:47Speaker 1: Redacted asked why they are doing this. Redacted told her
- 9:50Speaker 1: this was part of the routine and told her to
- 9:53Speaker 1: rub his legs and calves. Epstein had told Redacted to
- 9:56Speaker 1: get comfortable. Redacted continued rubbing Epstein's calves and his feet.
- 10:00Speaker 1: At Epstein's direction, Redacted then left the room, leaving Redacted
- 10:04Speaker 1: there by herself. Epstein told Redacted to get comfortable. Then
- 10:08Speaker 1: he removed her blouse and pants and stayed in her panties.
- 10:12Speaker 1: Redacted stated she was not wearing a bra. She believed
- 10:16Speaker 1: she was wearing thong panties. Epstein turned over onto his
- 10:19Speaker 1: back and began touching her. Epstein touched her breasts and
- 10:22Speaker 1: began touching her in her vagina area. Epstein instructed her
- 10:26Speaker 1: to rub his chest and rub his nipples. Redacted stated
- 10:29Speaker 1: the touching consisted over the panties on the first time
- 10:33Speaker 1: he stroked her vagina but stayed on top of the panties.
- 10:36Speaker 1: During the first massage, she stated, Epstein was stroking her
- 10:40Speaker 1: and began masturbating himself at the same time. He put
- 10:42Speaker 1: his hands under the towel and appeared as to masturbate
- 10:46Speaker 1: himself However, she never saw his penis. She continued rubbing
- 10:50Speaker 1: his chest until he grabbed her and pulled her closer
- 10:53Speaker 1: to him. He appeared to have climaxed because after he
- 10:56Speaker 1: pulled her closer to him, the massage was over. Epstein
- 10:59Speaker 1: told her that there was $ 200 for her on the dresser.
- 11:04Speaker 1: He told her that she could not tell anyone what
- 11:05Speaker 1: happened at the house or bad things could happen. Redacted
- 11:09Speaker 1: stated she went to Epstein's house three or four times
- 11:12Speaker 1: in total. Redacted was very scared and felt very nervous.
- 11:15Speaker 1: She knew, because of Epstein's money, he was powerful. After
- 11:19Speaker 1: the massage, Epstein ordered his housemen, at the time, to
- 11:22Speaker 1: drive the girls home. The employee was to drop off
- 11:24Speaker 1: the girls at their houses and to watch them go inside.
- 11:28Speaker 1: Redacted could not remember who the houseman was. She stated
- 11:31Speaker 1: Epstein and his assistant Sarah would call her at her
- 11:34Speaker 1: father's house to arrange for her to come to work.
- 11:37Speaker 1: She advised each time she returned to the house, Epstein
- 11:40Speaker 1: would do the same thing. Redacted stated, It was a
- 11:43Speaker 1: routine with Epstein. She would rub his feet and calves.
- 11:46Speaker 1: He would then turn over and begin to touch her
- 11:48Speaker 1: on her vagina area. The only difference was it was
- 11:51Speaker 1: done without panties. Epstein's fingers would stroke her vagina area
- 11:56Speaker 1: as he would masturbate and finally climax and the massage
- 11:59Speaker 1: would be over. She was paid $ 200 each time she went.
- 12:04Speaker 1: Each time she went, she was reminded not to speak
- 12:07Speaker 1: of what had happened at the house and that she
- 12:09Speaker 1: would be contacted again. She began to purposely miss the
- 12:13Speaker 1: calls when either Sarah or Epstein would call her. She
- 12:17Speaker 1: once brought a friend, Redacted, unknown last name, to work
- 12:20Speaker 1: for Epstein. She was paid $ 200 for bringing Redacted, and
- 12:24Speaker 1: Redacted stated she no longer returned to work for Epstein.
- 12:28Speaker 1: She also stated that she wanted to notify the police
- 12:31Speaker 1: of what happened at the house. Redacted stated that she
- 12:34Speaker 1: was scared of what could have happened to her or
- 12:36Speaker 1: her family if she notified the authorities. On January 10, 2006,
- 12:42Speaker 1: I received the results from the subpoena from the Bell
- 12:45Speaker 1: South Telecommunications for telephone number Redacted. The number is assigned
- 12:50Speaker 1: to Redacted and Redacted's father in Palm Beach Gardens. I
- 12:53Speaker 1: also received the results from the Western Union, which confirmed
- 12:57Speaker 1: the money order sent to Redacted from Jeffrey Epstein in
- 13:00Speaker 1: New York City. The wire was sent by Jeffrey Epstein
- 13:04Speaker 1: of 457 Madison Avenue in New York City on December 23, 2004.
- 13:09Speaker 1: at 12.05 p.m. The amount of $ 222 was charged to
- 13:15Speaker 1: Epstein's credit card so that Redacted could receive $ 200 in
- 13:19Speaker 1: Royal Palm Beach. The $ 22 was for processing and local
- 13:24Speaker 1: fees to send the money via Western Union. A copy
- 13:27Speaker 1: of the check presented to Redacted was also attached to
- 13:30Speaker 1: the receipt of the wire. This confirmed what Redacted advised
- 13:34Speaker 1: she received as a Christmas bonus from Epstein. The investigation continues.
- 13:39Speaker 1: Alright folks, we're going to wrap up right here and
- 13:41Speaker 1: in the next episode we'll pick up where we left off.
- 13:45Speaker 1: All of the information that goes with this episode can
- 13:47Speaker 1: be found in the description box. What's up everyone and
- 13:50Speaker 1: welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode we're
- 13:54Speaker 1: going to dive right back into that Palm Beach police
- 13:56Speaker 1: report and pick up where we left off. We're picking
- 14:00Speaker 1: up once again with the narrative of Joseph Rakari. I
- 14:05Speaker 1: received and reviewed the singular wireless results from the subpoena
- 14:08Speaker 1: request for subscriber information for the telephone numbers redacted. The
- 14:13Speaker 1: first number redacted is assigned to Janice Banasik in care
- 14:18Speaker 1: of Jeffrey Epstein of 457 Madison Avenue in New York City.
- 14:22Speaker 1: Banasik is the current houseman house manager for the 358
- 14:26Speaker 1: Elbrio Way in Palm Beach, Florida. The second number redacted
- 14:31Speaker 1: is assigned to Christian Venero of redacted West Palm Beach.
- 14:35Speaker 1: Research conducted on Venero revealed she is a licensed massage
- 14:39Speaker 1: therapist with a Florida conditional active license number redacted. Venero
- 14:44Speaker 1: had been previously arrested for battery, unwanted touching, and DUI.
- 14:49Speaker 1: Requests for copies of the reports involving the arrest were
- 14:52Speaker 1: requested from the Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office. The last
- 14:55Speaker 1: number redacted is assigned to Thomas Rofrano of redacted Palm
- 15:00Speaker 1: Beach Gardens. Research on Mr. Rofrano revealed he is a
- 15:04Speaker 1: Florida chiropractor. Vehicles that were previously documented on the property
- 15:09Speaker 1: while surveillance was being conducted were researched. I determined a
- 15:13Speaker 1: tan Chevrolet Camaro bearing Florida license redacted was seen on
- 15:17Speaker 1: the property. in which a young white female was seen
- 15:20Speaker 1: entering the Epstein property. Research was conducted, which revealed that
- 15:24Speaker 1: the vehicle is registered to Redacted. Mr. Redacted has two daughters,
- 15:28Speaker 1: Redacted and Redacted, is currently residing in Connecticut, and Redacted
- 15:32Speaker 1: is residing with her father in Lake Worth. Research on
- 15:36Speaker 1: Redacted revealed she was recently involved in a traffic stop
- 15:39Speaker 1: in Lake Clark Shores in May 19, 2005. A request
- 15:44Speaker 1: to discover any information from the stop was requested. I
- 15:48Speaker 1: spoke with ASA Dahlia Weiss, who informed me that Janice
- 15:52Speaker 1: Banasik will be available for an interview tomorrow at the
- 15:55Speaker 1: state's attorney's office in West Palm Beach at 1.30 p.m.
- 15:59Speaker 1: I informed her that I would be at her office
- 16:02Speaker 1: for the interview. On January 19, 2006, Detective Caristo and
- 16:06Speaker 1: I met with Johanna Schoberg at a licensed massage therapist
- 16:10Speaker 1: who had previously been seen on Epstein's property when physical
- 16:14Speaker 1: surveillance was done. Schoberg was told of the ongoing investigation
- 16:18Speaker 1: and I felt she may have information pertaining to the case.
- 16:22Speaker 1: During a sworn tape statement, Schoberg stated she met Epstein
- 16:26Speaker 1: three years ago when Ghislaine Maxwell approached her while she
- 16:29Speaker 1: was attending Palm Beach Atlantic College to work around Epstein's house.
- 16:34Speaker 1: Maxwell had told her that they needed some girls to
- 16:37Speaker 1: work at the house to answer phones and run errands.
- 16:40Speaker 1: Schoberg accepted the job and began working at Epstein's house
- 16:43Speaker 1: on El Brío in Palm Beach in Sjoberg stated it
- 16:46Speaker 1: was a part-time job during the time that she went
- 16:50Speaker 1: to Palm Beach Atlantic College. She continued going to Epstein's
- 16:53Speaker 1: house and would be notified when Epstein would travel to
- 16:56Speaker 1: Palm Beach. Sjoberg advised she would be notified by Maxwell, Epstein,
- 17:01Speaker 1: or Sarah, his assistant, when he would travel to Palm Beach.
- 17:05Speaker 1: Sjoberg stated that she began providing massages to Epstein before
- 17:10Speaker 1: she became a massage therapist. She continued giving massages not
- 17:14Speaker 1: only to Epstein but to Nadia Marcinkova and Sarah, his assistant.
- 17:19Speaker 1: Sjoberg was asked about what occurred during the massages. Sjoberg
- 17:23Speaker 1: stated that she was 23 years old when she met Epstein.
- 17:27Speaker 1: Anything that happened was between two consenting adults. I explained
- 17:30Speaker 1: to her that she was not in any trouble, however,
- 17:33Speaker 1: as part of this investigation, I needed to ask her
- 17:36Speaker 1: certain questions. Sjoberg stated that there were times that Epstein
- 17:40Speaker 1: would ask her to perform during the massage. He would
- 17:43Speaker 1: instruct her to rub his nipples as he masturbated himself.
- 17:47Speaker 1: Sjoberg stated she felt grossed out about the behavior, but
- 17:51Speaker 1: as she was getting paid, she just continued. Schoberg also
- 17:55Speaker 1: advised she would, on occasion, perform the massages naked. Epstein would,
- 17:59Speaker 1: on occasion, utilize the vibrator massager on her vagina area
- 18:04Speaker 1: when she performed the massages. Schoberg explained that Epstein never
- 18:08Speaker 1: exposed himself to her as he maintained himself covered under
- 18:11Speaker 1: the towel he would be wearing. When Epstein would masturbate,
- 18:14Speaker 1: he would be covered. I asked if Schoberg ever received
- 18:18Speaker 1: any gifts or any gratuities from Epstein. Schoberg advised aside
- 18:22Speaker 1: from being paid well, she advised Epstein to care of
- 18:25Speaker 1: her tuition from Palm Beach Atlantic College, and she received
- 18:28Speaker 1: a rental car for a week when her scooter broke down. Additionally,
- 18:32Speaker 1: she received other gifts from Epstein. Epstein also recommended her
- 18:36Speaker 1: to another client who resides at Breakers Row in Palm Beach.
- 18:40Speaker 1: The client she was referred to was named Glenn, unknown
- 18:43Speaker 1: last name, and his wife, who she provided a massage to.
- 18:47Speaker 1: The statement was concluded and placed into evidence upon our
- 18:50Speaker 1: return to the Palm Beach Police Department. While at the
- 18:53Speaker 1: police station, I researched Florida Tag Redacted, which was also
- 18:57Speaker 1: previously seen on the property when there was physical surveillance
- 19:00Speaker 1: being done at the property. The vehicle is registered to Redacted,
- 19:04Speaker 1: Lake Worth, Florida. Researching Mr. Redacted and the vehicle revealed
- 19:09Speaker 1: that his daughter, Redacted, had been driving the vehicle and
- 19:12Speaker 1: was cited for unlawful speed in Lake Clark Shores. The
- 19:17Speaker 1: vehicle is a tan Chevrolet Camaro two-door. I researched Redacted's
- 19:21Speaker 1: date of birth. Redacted, 1987, resides at Redacted, and Redacted
- 19:26Speaker 1: has a MySpace page. In her webpage shows various photos
- 19:29Speaker 1: of Redacted photographed at a beach. An interview is forthcoming.
- 19:34Speaker 1: A review of the video disc, which was extracted at
- 19:37Speaker 1: the Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office Computer Crime Unit, revealed
- 19:40Speaker 1: that only one hidden camera was functional at the time.
- 19:44Speaker 1: Several images of Epstein working at his office were seen.
- 19:47Speaker 1: Additional footage of Sarah Kellen and Nadia Marcinkova was seen.
- 19:51Speaker 1: There was other footage of women seen. The identity of
- 19:54Speaker 1: the females is unknown at this time until such time
- 19:58Speaker 1: as I meet with certain females to show the video
- 20:00Speaker 1: footage to confirm if, in fact, it is them on
- 20:03Speaker 1: the video. At this time, it appears that Redacted and
- 20:07Speaker 1: Haley Robson are seen sitting with Epstein beside his desk
- 20:10Speaker 1: in the evening hours. Due to poor lighting, a direct
- 20:13Speaker 1: confirmation cannot be made at this time. The investigation continues.
- 20:18Speaker 1: On January 25, 2006, Detective Caristo and I responded to
- 20:23Speaker 1: Redacted and met with Redacted, and Redacted stated last year,
- 20:27Speaker 1: when she was 17 years of age, she met Jeffrey
- 20:30Speaker 1: Epstein through her former roommate, Redacted. Redacted was allegedly dating
- 20:35Speaker 1: Epstein at the time. Redacted and Redacted had once cohabitated
- 20:39Speaker 1: together when they modeled. Redacted explained. Redacted called her on
- 20:43Speaker 1: the telephone and advised her that she was in Palm
- 20:46Speaker 1: Beach and requested to see her. Redacted made arrangements to
- 20:49Speaker 1: meet with her at Epstein's house. Redacted arrived and met
- 20:53Speaker 1: Epstein and Redacted and Redacted and Redacted and went to
- 20:56Speaker 1: the Palm Beach mall together and went shopping. Redacted advised
- 20:59Speaker 1: that Redacted and she had received money from Epstein to
- 21:03Speaker 1: go to the mall. They visited Victoria's Secret and purchased
- 21:06Speaker 1: undergarments from the store, utilizing monies given to them by Epstein.
- 21:11Speaker 1: Redacted advised she purchased one item, and Redacted purchased various items.
- 21:16Speaker 1: The money used to purchase the items was money given
- 21:18Speaker 1: by Epstein. Redacted and Redacted continued shopping and having a
- 21:23Speaker 1: day together. Redacted stated that Redacted explained how she and
- 21:26Speaker 1: Epstein had been dating each other and how he has
- 21:29Speaker 1: been paying all of her bills. Redacted claims she, that
- 21:33Speaker 1: Redacted advised, they met in New York and had been
- 21:36Speaker 1: dating ever since. They later returned to Epstein's home and
- 21:39Speaker 1: encountered Epstein. He had a brief conversation with Redacted about
- 21:43Speaker 1: her modeling career. He knew of her modeling career from Redacted.
- 21:47Speaker 1: He requested to see her modeling portfolio and explained that
- 21:50Speaker 1: he could help her with modeling jobs. Redacted had her
- 21:53Speaker 1: book with her to show Redacted and show the book
- 21:56Speaker 1: to Epstein. He commented negatively about her photographs and portfolio.
- 22:01Speaker 1: Redacted felt uncomfortable with the comments made as she had
- 22:05Speaker 1: been working with other professional modeling companies and had been
- 22:08Speaker 1: offered work for her photographs. Epstein requested to see what
- 22:12Speaker 1: was purchased at the mall. Redacted took out the undergarments,
- 22:16Speaker 1: which were purchased. She immediately showed Epstein different sets purchased.
- 22:20Speaker 1: Epstein then requested to view what was purchased. Redacted was
- 22:24Speaker 1: reluctant to show the outfit, However, since it was Epstein's
- 22:27Speaker 1: money that purchased the item, she pulled it out of
- 22:30Speaker 1: the bag. Epstein asked her to try it on. Redacted
- 22:33Speaker 1: looked at Redacted, who told her, yeah, try it on.
- 22:36Speaker 1: Feeling compelled to try on the undergarment outfit, she went
- 22:39Speaker 1: to another room and put on the bra and panty set.
- 22:43Speaker 1: She walked out to the living room where they were
- 22:45Speaker 1: sitting and modeled the suit. She then went back into
- 22:49Speaker 1: the other room and changed back into her clothes. Redacted
- 22:52Speaker 1: returned into the room and told her that she would
- 22:55Speaker 1: be going home. Redacted scheduled another day for Redacted to
- 22:58Speaker 1: return for a massage with her. Redacted stated within the
- 23:01Speaker 1: same week she returned to meet with Redacted and have
- 23:05Speaker 1: a massage. Redacted had told her that she would be
- 23:09Speaker 1: unable to stay with her as she would be going
- 23:11Speaker 1: on a bike ride with Epstein. Redacted explained that she
- 23:14Speaker 1: could stay at the house and take advantage of the massage.
- 23:18Speaker 1: Redacted stated that she met with an unknown massage therapist
- 23:21Speaker 1: and had the table already set up in a guest room.
- 23:24Speaker 1: Redacted removed her clothing, leaving her panties on, and wrapped
- 23:28Speaker 1: herself with a towel for the massage. Redacted remembered that
- 23:31Speaker 1: the door to the guest room was closed, but not locked.
- 23:35Speaker 1: As the therapist was working her back, the door was
- 23:37Speaker 1: opened by Epstein, and he entered into the room. Redacted
- 23:41Speaker 1: was trying to conceal herself as Epstein was talking to
- 23:44Speaker 1: her about his chiropractic session. Epstein told Redacted to turn
- 23:48Speaker 1: over onto her back. Redacted eventually turned over, exposing her
- 23:52Speaker 1: breasts to Epstein. as he applied pressure on her shoulder
- 23:56Speaker 1: and her waist. Redacted stated Epstein popped her back. Redacted
- 24:00Speaker 1: removed herself from the table and got dressed and left
- 24:03Speaker 1: the house. Redacted further stated Redacted had attempted to call
- 24:07Speaker 1: her on several occasions to invite her back to Epstein's house,
- 24:10Speaker 1: to which Redacted replied, I'm busy. Redacted advised she had
- 24:15Speaker 1: not had contact with either Redacted or Jeffrey Epstein. It
- 24:19Speaker 1: should be noted that her mother, Redacted, was present during
- 24:21Speaker 1: the interview. The interview was concluded, and we thank them
- 24:25Speaker 1: for their time. On January 27, 2006, I made telephone
- 24:30Speaker 1: contact with Christina Venero at Redacted. Venero is a licensed
- 24:34Speaker 1: massage therapist who had frequented the home of Jeffrey Epstein. Ms.
- 24:39Speaker 1: Venero has been unable to meet with me in Palm
- 24:41Speaker 1: Beach County, and because she lives and works in Port St. Lucie,
- 24:45Speaker 1: a telephone interview was conducted. I explained to Ms. Venero
- 24:49Speaker 1: that there was an ongoing investigation involving Jeffrey Epstein. Venero
- 24:53Speaker 1: stated she knows Epstein and has been employed by him
- 24:57Speaker 1: for approximately three years. Epstein has paid Venero to perform
- 25:01Speaker 1: Swedish massages, deep tissue, on him and other guests. Venero
- 25:05Speaker 1: explained that approximately three years ago she met Ghislaine Maxwell
- 25:09Speaker 1: and Jeffrey Epstein through a mutual friend. Epstein and Maxwell
- 25:13Speaker 1: were looking for a massage therapist. Venero stated since that time,
- 25:18Speaker 1: She is notified when Epstein is coming into Palm Beach.
- 25:21Speaker 1: Venero stated she comes to his house and provides the
- 25:24Speaker 1: massage or massages. Venero explained she has also massaged his
- 25:28Speaker 1: guests and his assistants. Venero continued that she has paid
- 25:32Speaker 1: $ 100 an hour for the massage. I asked Venero if
- 25:36Speaker 1: anything occurred during the massage that would have made her
- 25:39Speaker 1: feel uncomfortable. Venero stated she only provided massages and that
- 25:43Speaker 1: was it. She was never approached for anything else. I
- 25:47Speaker 1: asked if Epstein ever asked her to rub his chest.
- 25:49Speaker 1: She stated she would not rub his chest as that
- 25:52Speaker 1: is not part of her massage. Bonero explained that she
- 25:55Speaker 1: was not Epstein's type. The girls she would see at
- 25:58Speaker 1: Epstein's house were very thin, beautiful, and without tattoos. Bonero
- 26:02Speaker 1: explained she has several tattoos that are visible. Maxwell and
- 26:06Speaker 1: Epstein have commented negatively about her tattoos previously when she
- 26:11Speaker 1: provided massages. Bonero stated, She only provided massages for Epstein
- 26:16Speaker 1: and his associates, and nothing happened during those massages. Bonero stated,
- 26:21Speaker 1: as she does Swedish-style massages, the patient is usually sore
- 26:25Speaker 1: after the massages. I thanked her for her assistance, and
- 26:28Speaker 1: the interview was concluded at this time. I received a
- 26:31Speaker 1: facsimile from T-Mobile Cellular Service on telephone number redacted, which
- 26:36Speaker 1: is assigned to David Rogers, pilot for Mr. Epstein, who
- 26:40Speaker 1: resides in Lake Worth. Rogers' telephone number was dialed on
- 26:44Speaker 1: several occasions from Sarah Kellan. A background on Rogers indicated
- 26:48Speaker 1: he has a valid FAA pilot license, first class, for
- 26:52Speaker 1: the southern FAA region. Rogers has another historical FAA license
- 26:57Speaker 1: for airline transport pilot. The investigation continues. All right, folks,
- 27:03Speaker 1: we're going to wrap this one up right here, and
- 27:05Speaker 1: in the next episode, we'll pick up where we left off.
- 27:08Speaker 1: All of the information that goes with this episode can
- 27:10Speaker 1: be found in the description box. What's up everyone and
- 27:14Speaker 1: welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're
- 27:17Speaker 1: going to dive right back into that Palm Beach police report.
- 27:21Speaker 1: And to do that, we're once again picking up with
- 27:23Speaker 1: the narrative of Joseph Ricari. On Friday, February 3rd, 2006,
- 27:27Speaker 1: I had made arrangements to meet with Redacted at the
- 27:31Speaker 1: Palm Beach police station. At approximately 1pm, Redacted and her
- 27:35Speaker 1: friend Redacted arrived at the police station. During an interview
- 27:39Speaker 1: with Redacted, She stated she met Epstein when she turned
- 27:42Speaker 1: 18 years old and was brought to Epstein's house to
- 27:45Speaker 1: provide a massage. She advised this occurred on May of 2005.
- 27:49Speaker 1: She advised Haley Robson had informed her if she wanted
- 27:53Speaker 1: to provide a massage for $ 200. Redacted agreed and she
- 27:57Speaker 1: was brought to Epstein's house to provide a massage. Redacted
- 28:00Speaker 1: stated she had been to the house on many occasions
- 28:03Speaker 1: during the massage sessions. Redacted also stated she would remove
- 28:07Speaker 1: her clothing to provide the massage on Epstein. Redacted advised
- 28:11Speaker 1: Epstein would pay her $ 300 to rub his back, legs,
- 28:14Speaker 1: and chest. During the massage, Epstein would masturbate himself as
- 28:19Speaker 1: she rubbed his chest. I asked her if Epstein ever
- 28:22Speaker 1: touched her breasts during the massages. Redacted replied yes. I
- 28:26Speaker 1: asked her if Epstein ever touched or massaged her vagina.
- 28:29Speaker 1: Redacted stated he had on several occasions. I asked her
- 28:33Speaker 1: if he ever penetrated her with either his penis or
- 28:36Speaker 1: any other objects. Redacted stated that during a massage he
- 28:40Speaker 1: inserted his fingers in her vagina as she massaged them.
- 28:44Speaker 1: She stated that this occurred one time only. Redacted stated
- 28:47Speaker 1: that the massage would be over when Epstein would climax
- 28:51Speaker 1: onto a towel. I asked Redacted if she had any
- 28:53Speaker 1: formal massage training. to which she replied that she did not.
- 28:57Speaker 1: Redacted was then asked if she ever brought anyone to
- 29:00Speaker 1: the house to work. Redacted stated she brought two people
- 29:04Speaker 1: to the house. She advised she received money for bringing
- 29:07Speaker 1: people to the house to work. Redacted stated she brought
- 29:10Speaker 1: a girl named Redacted and her friend Redacted was still
- 29:14Speaker 1: waiting for Redacted in the lobby of a police station.
- 29:17Speaker 1: I thank Redacted for her time and her cooperation and
- 29:20Speaker 1: escorted her to the lobby. I asked Miss Redacted if
- 29:24Speaker 1: I could speak with her about this investigation. I brought
- 29:26Speaker 1: her to the interview room and explained to her that
- 29:29Speaker 1: I was conducting an investigation on Jeffrey Epstein and felt
- 29:33Speaker 1: she may have information pertaining to that investigation. Ms. Redacted
- 29:38Speaker 1: identified herself as Redacted and resides in Wellington, Florida. She
- 29:43Speaker 1: advised approximately a year ago she was brought to Epstein's
- 29:46Speaker 1: house to provide a massage for money. Redacted stated she
- 29:49Speaker 1: needed to make money and she felt it was a
- 29:52Speaker 1: quick way to make some money. Redacted stated she was
- 29:55Speaker 1: brought to the house by Redacted and was introduced to
- 29:58Speaker 1: Epstein and his assistant. She was brought to his main
- 30:01Speaker 1: bathroom and provided a massage. I asked her if she
- 30:04Speaker 1: provided the massage naked. Redacted stated that she did. She
- 30:08Speaker 1: rubbed Epstein's legs back and chest. I asked Redacted if
- 30:11Speaker 1: Epstein touched her during the massage. She advised he did not. However,
- 30:16Speaker 1: he did masturbate himself as she rubbed his chest. Once
- 30:20Speaker 1: he climaxed, the massage was over. She was paid her
- 30:22Speaker 1: money and left the area. Redacted advised it occurred one
- 30:26Speaker 1: time and she never returned to Epstein's house. The interview
- 30:29Speaker 1: was concluded and Redacted was escorted to the lobby. I
- 30:33Speaker 1: located a telephone number for Redacted and attempted to contact
- 30:36Speaker 1: her on several occasions. I called Redacted and spoke with Ms.
- 30:40Speaker 1: Redacted who advised she would speak with me in Deerfield
- 30:43Speaker 1: Beach where she resides. Due to a scheduling conflict, we
- 30:47Speaker 1: were unable to meet. I informed her that I would
- 30:50Speaker 1: contact her to schedule another appointment to speak with her
- 30:53Speaker 1: about this investigation. I have attempted to meet with her
- 30:57Speaker 1: and make telephone contact with negative results. On February 13, 2006,
- 31:02Speaker 1: I met with David Rogers at Redacted in Lake Worth.
- 31:05Speaker 1: Rogers was identified as Epstein's pilot. I spoke with Rogers,
- 31:09Speaker 1: who advised he has been employed with Epstein since 1991.
- 31:13Speaker 1: He flies both planes for Epstein depending where he wants
- 31:16Speaker 1: to fly to. Rogers was asked about passengers in the
- 31:19Speaker 1: plane he flies. Rogers stated unless Epstein flew to his
- 31:23Speaker 1: island off of St. Thomas, there would be no way
- 31:26Speaker 1: of knowing who the passengers were. I mentioned a recent
- 31:29Speaker 1: flight to Ohio where Rogers flew to Ohio to pick
- 31:32Speaker 1: up Redacted. Rogers stated he recalled flying on several occasions
- 31:36Speaker 1: and did remember Redacted. Rogers stated once he is in
- 31:39Speaker 1: the cockpit, he does not know who the passengers are.
- 31:43Speaker 1: When he prepares the passenger manifest, he lists Epstein and
- 31:46Speaker 1: his assistants he knows by name, Sarah and Adriana. Rogers
- 31:50Speaker 1: stated he would list either female or male passengers on
- 31:54Speaker 1: the manifest only to keep account of the passengers. Ms.
- 31:58Speaker 1: Rogers came into the living room and recommended that her
- 32:01Speaker 1: husband consult with an attorney. Mr. Rogers agreed he would
- 32:05Speaker 1: speak with the family attorney to inform him of this questioning.
- 32:09Speaker 1: I explained to Mr. Rogers that he was not a suspect.
- 32:11Speaker 1: in the investigation and ceased all questions. Based on the
- 32:14Speaker 1: fact that Rogers would not advise who passengers were in
- 32:17Speaker 1: the plane, I then left the area. I attempted to
- 32:20Speaker 1: locate Redacted at Redacted in Wellington. I left my business
- 32:25Speaker 1: card for her to return my call. On February 14, 2006,
- 32:28Speaker 1: at 12.06 p.m., I received a call from Ms. Redacted
- 32:33Speaker 1: on my voicemail. Ms. Redacted left her telephone number for
- 32:37Speaker 1: a return call. Redacted. I left her a message to
- 32:40Speaker 1: return call. The investigation continues. The narrative is still Joseph Ricari.
- 32:47Speaker 1: On February 15, 2006, I made telephone contact with Redacted,
- 32:52Speaker 1: who provided directions to where I could locate her. Detective
- 32:55Speaker 1: Caristo and I responded to Redacted in Lake Park to
- 32:59Speaker 1: meet with Redacted. Upon my arrival, I met with Redacted
- 33:02Speaker 1: in the parking lot directly behind Mako Auto Painting. She
- 33:06Speaker 1: was advised I was there to speak with her about
- 33:09Speaker 1: an ongoing investigation that concerned Jeffrey Epstein and Palm Beach.
- 33:13Speaker 1: Redacted stated she knows Epstein very well and did not
- 33:16Speaker 1: want to speak with me about Mr. Epstein. She was
- 33:19Speaker 1: very fond of Epstein and did not want to speak
- 33:21Speaker 1: with me about anything concerning Jeffrey Epstein. I explained to
- 33:25Speaker 1: her that she was seen at the house and I
- 33:27Speaker 1: would like to speak with her. She stated she knew
- 33:30Speaker 1: there was an investigation and that I had spoken with
- 33:32Speaker 1: other people and therefore I should know what happened at
- 33:35Speaker 1: Epstein's house. Redacted ended the conversation and walked back into
- 33:40Speaker 1: her boyfriend's business, Blanton Automotive. Detective Caristo and I left
- 33:44Speaker 1: the area and returned to the police station. The investigation continues.
- 33:49Speaker 1: A grand jury session was requested during the month of
- 33:52Speaker 1: February 2006, in which all the girls that had been
- 33:55Speaker 1: interviewed would have been called to testify before the grand
- 33:59Speaker 1: jury to seek an indictment against Jeffrey Epstein. Due to
- 34:02Speaker 1: subsequent meetings with the state attorney's office and defense attorney
- 34:06Speaker 1: Alan Dershowitz, the grand jury was postponed until at a
- 34:09Speaker 1: later time. Dershowitz had provided a package of material on
- 34:13Speaker 1: the main victims in this case, in which they appear
- 34:16Speaker 1: on MySpace.com. to speak about alcohol use and some marijuana use.
- 34:21Speaker 1: The state attorney's office wanted time to review the material.
- 34:25Speaker 1: I requested additional subpoenas from the state's attorney's office in
- 34:29Speaker 1: which I requested information from Dollar Rent-A-Car and Jet Aviation.
- 34:34Speaker 1: The information requested from Dollar Rent-A-Car was for the rented
- 34:37Speaker 1: vehicle by Alfredo Rodriguez while under the employ of Epstein
- 34:41Speaker 1: for one of the victims. The other subpoena requested was
- 34:45Speaker 1: for Jet Aviation for dates and times when Epstein's planes
- 34:48Speaker 1: were in Palm Beach County. I continued to research other
- 34:52Speaker 1: names that were acquired either from interviews or intelligence gathered
- 34:56Speaker 1: during the investigation. I located Redacted in Royal Palm Beach.
- 35:01Speaker 1: I responded to Redacted in Royal Palm Beach. During the interview,
- 35:04Speaker 1: Redacted stated that she knew I would be speaking with her.
- 35:08Speaker 1: Redacted stated she was first introduced to Epstein when she
- 35:12Speaker 1: turned 18 years old. Redacted stated She was sure of
- 35:15Speaker 1: her age as it was her senior year in high school.
- 35:18Speaker 1: She advised she was brought there to make money and
- 35:21Speaker 1: was told that she would have to provide a massage
- 35:23Speaker 1: to this Palm Beach guy. She remembered she met Epstein
- 35:26Speaker 1: and his assistant Sarah in the kitchen area. She stated
- 35:30Speaker 1: she was taken by one of her friends, Redacted, she stated,
- 35:33Speaker 1: and she went upstairs with Sarah while Epstein got ready
- 35:36Speaker 1: for the massage. He exited his bathroom naked and Redacted
- 35:41Speaker 1: turned around. Epstein asked her if being naked offended her.
- 35:44Speaker 1: Redacted stated it made her uncomfortable. Epstein then put on
- 35:48Speaker 1: a towel and lay on the table. Redacted stated she
- 35:51Speaker 1: rubbed his back and feet. She stated he had no
- 35:54Speaker 1: massage training or experience. Redacted stated during the massage, Epstein
- 35:59Speaker 1: attempted to touch her buttocks. Redacted pulled away as he
- 36:03Speaker 1: touched her buttocks. She told him again she was uncomfortable
- 36:06Speaker 1: with him touching her. Epstein paid her $ 200 for the
- 36:10Speaker 1: massage and told her to leave the house. Redacted never
- 36:13Speaker 1: returned to the house. She did advise of one time
- 36:17Speaker 1: she went with Redacted, however, she waited in the car
- 36:20Speaker 1: for Redacted as she did not want to go into
- 36:22Speaker 1: the house. At the conclusion of the visit with Epstein,
- 36:25Speaker 1: they left the area. Redacted stated she had heard from
- 36:29Speaker 1: other girls that have gone to the house that Epstein
- 36:32Speaker 1: now required them to do the massage naked and allow
- 36:35Speaker 1: him to touch them in their private areas for monies.
- 36:38Speaker 1: The interview was concluded as Redacted did not have any
- 36:41Speaker 1: other information to provide. I then learned from the original victim.
- 36:45Speaker 1: The defense attorney had learned of her identity. I spoke
- 36:49Speaker 1: with the father of the victim who stated there was
- 36:51Speaker 1: a private investigator on his house photographing his family and
- 36:55Speaker 1: chasing visitors who came to the house. He provided a
- 36:58Speaker 1: Florida license of redacted. This vehicle is registered to Ivan
- 37:02Speaker 1: Robles of West Palm Beach. Robles is a private investigator
- 37:06Speaker 1: intern who is licensed by the state. I informed the
- 37:09Speaker 1: state attorney's office of the above information. I received the
- 37:13Speaker 1: grand jury subpoenas to be delivered to three victims for
- 37:17Speaker 1: a grand jury session to be held on April 18th
- 37:20Speaker 1: through April 20th, 2006. The investigation continues. The grand jury
- 37:26Speaker 1: subpoenas were personally served to the individuals they were issued
- 37:29Speaker 1: to on April 5th, 2006 at approximately 7.30 p.m. I
- 37:34Speaker 1: personally served the parents of redacted who had informed me
- 37:37Speaker 1: that the private investigators were still photographing the family. On
- 37:41Speaker 1: April 10th, 2006, At approximately 2.30 p.m., I served redacted
- 37:46Speaker 1: at a residence in Royal Palm Beach. The subpoena was
- 37:49Speaker 1: given to her mother. I learned through one of the victims, redacted,
- 37:53Speaker 1: that she was personally contacted through a source that has
- 37:57Speaker 1: maintained contact with Epstein. The source ensured her that she
- 38:00Speaker 1: would receive monetary compensation for her assistance in not cooperating
- 38:04Speaker 1: with law enforcement. A.H. also stated she was told those
- 38:08Speaker 1: who help him will be compensated and those who hurt
- 38:10Speaker 1: him will be dealt with. I told Redacted that tampering
- 38:14Speaker 1: with a witness victim is an arrestable offense and very serious.
- 38:18Speaker 1: I asked her who approached her during this encounter. Redacted
- 38:22Speaker 1: originally was reluctant to provide the name of the person
- 38:25Speaker 1: who approached her to offer her not to testify because
- 38:28Speaker 1: she felt that they were still friends. On April 11th, 2006,
- 38:32Speaker 1: Detective Dawson and I traveled to Tallahassee, Florida and met
- 38:35Speaker 1: with the victim Redacted, identified Redacted, white female, as the
- 38:40Speaker 1: person who approached her in Royal Palm Beach while she
- 38:43Speaker 1: was home during spring break in March of 2006. Redacted
- 38:47Speaker 1: also stated she did not want to pursue the intimidation
- 38:50Speaker 1: charges on Redacted and was concerned that the defense attorney
- 38:54Speaker 1: was given a copy of the report as certain things
- 38:56Speaker 1: she had told me in confidence were repeated to her
- 38:59Speaker 1: by Redacted. Prior to our departure, the victim was given
- 39:03Speaker 1: a copy of her subpoena for the grand jury, which
- 39:06Speaker 1: was scheduled to commence April 18, 2006. Upon our return
- 39:11Speaker 1: from Tallahassee, I notified the state attorney's office of what
- 39:15Speaker 1: was told to me. I also notified them that the
- 39:18Speaker 1: subpoenas were delivered to the witnesses and they would be
- 39:21Speaker 1: calling for arrangements for the date and the time need
- 39:24Speaker 1: for the grand jury. I spoke with ASA Weiss and
- 39:28Speaker 1: informed her of the possible intimidation by the defense. On
- 39:31Speaker 1: April 13th and April 14th, 2006, I attempted contact on
- 39:36Speaker 1: several occasions with ASA Weiss and ASA Belhovelich to ascertain
- 39:41Speaker 1: when the victims needed to report for grand jury testimony.
- 39:45Speaker 1: Messages were left on their voicemail on April 17th, 2006,
- 39:48Speaker 1: during the hours of 9 a.m. and 1130 a.m. I
- 39:52Speaker 1: again left messages for ASA Weiss and ASA Belahovic for
- 39:56Speaker 1: either of them to return my call, as I had
- 39:59Speaker 1: not heard from the state attorney's office as to the
- 40:01Speaker 1: time and date of the grand jury. All right, folks,
- 40:05Speaker 1: we're going to wrap up this episode right here. And
- 40:07Speaker 1: in the next episode, we're going to pick up where
- 40:09Speaker 1: we left off. All of the information that goes with
- 40:12Speaker 1: this episode can be found on in the description box.
- 40:20Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
- 40:24Speaker 1: In this episode, we're going to dive right back in
- 40:26Speaker 1: to the Palm Beach Police Report and pick up where
- 40:29Speaker 1: we left off. And you're probably going to want to
- 40:32Speaker 1: get your barf bags ready for this portion. At approximately
- 40:37Speaker 1: 1230 p.m., I went to the state attorney's office and
- 40:40Speaker 1: located ASA Weiss and ASA Bella Hovlak in their offices.
- 40:45Speaker 1: I entered ASA, Belahovic's office, who informed me that she
- 40:49Speaker 1: was going to return my call. She explained that an
- 40:52Speaker 1: offer was made to the defense, attorney Guy Fronstein and
- 40:56Speaker 1: attorney Alan Dershowitz. The offer is one count of aggravated
- 41:00Speaker 1: assault with intent to commit a felony, five years probation,
- 41:04Speaker 1: with adjudication withheld. Epstein would have to submit to psychiatric,
- 41:09Speaker 1: sexual evaluations, and no unsupervised visits with minors. When asked
- 41:15Speaker 1: about all the other victims, ASA Belahovic stated that was
- 41:19Speaker 1: the only offer made as to one victim. ASA Belahovic's
- 41:23Speaker 1: cell phone rang and went to voicemail. She checked her
- 41:25Speaker 1: voicemail and played the message on speaker. The caller identified
- 41:29Speaker 1: himself as Attorney Guy Fronstein and acknowledged the deal made
- 41:34Speaker 1: between them. Fronstein stated in the message he spoke with
- 41:37Speaker 1: his client Jeffrey Epstein and agreed to the deal. Fronstein
- 41:41Speaker 1: asked to call off the grand jury and as they
- 41:43Speaker 1: would accept this deal. Belahovic stated a probable cause would
- 41:47Speaker 1: be needed to book Epstein in the county jail and
- 41:50Speaker 1: would let me know as to when it would be needed.
- 41:53Speaker 1: I explained my disapproval of the deal and not being
- 41:57Speaker 1: consulted prior to the deal being offered. However, I expressed
- 42:02Speaker 1: that was only my opinion and the final approval would
- 42:05Speaker 1: come from the chief of police. She explained to have
- 42:08Speaker 1: Chief Ryder call Barry Krischer about the deal. I left
- 42:11Speaker 1: the area and returned to the police station where I
- 42:14Speaker 1: briefed the chief about the deal offered. I checked my
- 42:17Speaker 1: voicemail messages and discovered a message from redacted stepmother for
- 42:21Speaker 1: the victim redacted she was calling because the state's attorney's
- 42:25Speaker 1: office still had not returned any of her calls as
- 42:28Speaker 1: to when they are needed for this case. I then
- 42:31Speaker 1: called ASA Belahovitz office and left messages for her to
- 42:34Speaker 1: call the victims on this case and explain to them
- 42:38Speaker 1: what the state attorney's office had done. On April 17, 2006,
- 42:42Speaker 1: at approximately 4.30 p.m., State Attorney Investigator Tim Valentine called
- 42:47Speaker 1: to officially notify me of the cancellation of the grand jury.
- 42:52Speaker 1: He requested I contact the victims that had been served
- 42:55Speaker 1: to appear to notify them of the cancellation. I advised
- 42:59Speaker 1: Valentine that as this grand jury session was called based
- 43:02Speaker 1: on the state attorney's decision to have the victims heard
- 43:05Speaker 1: by the grand jury, that I felt it was the
- 43:08Speaker 1: state's attorney's office responsibility to contact the victims and advise
- 43:12Speaker 1: them of the reason they were no longer needed. As
- 43:16Speaker 1: I had not received any contact from anyone at the
- 43:18Speaker 1: state attorney's office on May 1, 2006, I prepared three
- 43:22Speaker 1: arrest warrant requests and submitted them to the state attorney's office.
- 43:26Speaker 1: The packages were delivered to the Crimes Against Children Unit
- 43:30Speaker 1: in care of ASA Lana Belahovlich, Jeffrey Epstein's arrest warrant
- 43:34Speaker 1: was requested for four counts of unlawful sexual activity with
- 43:38Speaker 1: certain minors and one count of lewd and lascivious molestation.
- 43:43Speaker 1: Sarah Kellan, Epstein's assistant, arrest warrant request was for four
- 43:48Speaker 1: counts of principal in the first degree unlawful sexual activity
- 43:52Speaker 1: with certain minors and one count of principal in the
- 43:55Speaker 1: first degree lewd and lascivious molestation. Haley Robson's arrest warrant
- 43:59Speaker 1: request was for lewd and lascivious acts on a victim
- 44:03Speaker 1: under the age of 16. The receipt of delivery was
- 44:07Speaker 1: signed and brought back to the Records Division at the
- 44:10Speaker 1: Police Department. On May 3, 2006, at approximately 2.54 p.m.,
- 44:15Speaker 1: I received a telephone call from ASA Dalio Weiss on
- 44:19Speaker 1: my cell phone. ASA Weiss advised that, She had been
- 44:24Speaker 1: taken off the Jeffrey Epstein case because her husband is
- 44:27Speaker 1: employed with attorney Jack Goldberger. Attorney Goldberger is the attorney
- 44:32Speaker 1: of record for Jeffrey Epstein. His previous attorney, Guy Fronstein,
- 44:36Speaker 1: has been fired from representation. ASA Lana Belahovic has been
- 44:41Speaker 1: assigned the case. ASA Weiss stated she can no longer
- 44:44Speaker 1: speak about the Epstein case with me. I thanked her
- 44:47Speaker 1: for her telephone call. ASA Weiss further stated, that ASA
- 44:51Speaker 1: Belahovic would be calling me. And just to interject here,
- 44:55Speaker 1: you know, you got DeSantis out here talking about he
- 44:57Speaker 1: wants to do something about Epstein. Well, all of these
- 45:00Speaker 1: people we're talking about, they're all people that were working
- 45:02Speaker 1: for the state. So why aren't these people being held
- 45:07Speaker 1: to account? Why aren't any of these people being called
- 45:10Speaker 1: out on the carpet? The narrative continues with Joseph Ricari.
- 45:15Speaker 1: On May 10th, 2006, Information was received that Epstein's associate,
- 45:20Speaker 1: Leslie Wexner, the Limited Incorporated CEO's plane, had arrived in
- 45:24Speaker 1: West Palm Beach, PBIA. The plane, a Gulfstream IV, bearing
- 45:29Speaker 1: a N900LS registration, was on the tarmac at Galaxy Aviation.
- 45:35Speaker 1: As Epstein had recently acquired the services of a new
- 45:38Speaker 1: attorney and the fact that Epstein's house is currently under remodeling,
- 45:42Speaker 1: it was believed that Epstein may be in Palm Beach.
- 45:44Speaker 1: I conducted physical surveillance at the residence. 358 Elbrio Way,
- 45:49Speaker 1: I observed a large construction crew conducting remodeling at the house.
- 45:54Speaker 1: The contractor, David Knorr, was observed driving a Ford Explorer,
- 45:57Speaker 1: white in color. The vehicle has a Florida registration of F3-0QQF.
- 46:04Speaker 1: Knorr left Epstein's house and traveled north on County Road.
- 46:08Speaker 1: Detective Caristo and I conducted surveillance on Knorr. Knorr traveled
- 46:11Speaker 1: to several construction sites and checked on certain jobs. Surveillance
- 46:16Speaker 1: was discontinued on Knorr, and Detective Cristo and I traveled
- 46:20Speaker 1: to Galaxy Aviation. I observed the white plane with a
- 46:23Speaker 1: blue stripe along the body and tail of the plane.
- 46:26Speaker 1: The tail number was visible on the bottom of the tail,
- 46:30Speaker 1: closer to the body of the plane. We maintained visual
- 46:33Speaker 1: surveillance on the plane until 4.57 p.m. when a caravan
- 46:37Speaker 1: of Cadillac Escalades drove onto the tarmac. We observed several
- 46:41Speaker 1: people exit the vehicles and discovered they were part of
- 46:45Speaker 1: the executive team for Limited Incorporated. The executives were in
- 46:49Speaker 1: Palm Beach County for an executive meeting for the day.
- 46:52Speaker 1: They arrived in Palm Beach County on May 9th, 2006
- 46:56Speaker 1: at 930 p.m. and were scheduled to leave on the
- 46:59Speaker 1: 10th at 5 p.m. Now, remember when Les Wexner was
- 47:02Speaker 1: telling everybody that he was unaware of what Epstein was
- 47:06Speaker 1: up to? Epstein was under investigation as they're having, you know,
- 47:10Speaker 1: the Victoria's Secret limited meeting in Palm Beach. So save
- 47:15Speaker 1: that bullshit. And when I tell you that he's bullshitting you,
- 47:18Speaker 1: that's what I mean. On May 12, 2006, I met
- 47:22Speaker 1: with ASA Lana Belahovic at the state attorney's office. She
- 47:26Speaker 1: explained that her boss, Barry Krischer, was requesting this case
- 47:29Speaker 1: be taken to the grand jury again. I explained to
- 47:32Speaker 1: her that I had requested arrest warrants for Jeffrey Epstein,
- 47:35Speaker 1: Sarah Kellan, and Haley Robson. I asked that she either
- 47:39Speaker 1: issue the warrants or direct file as so much time
- 47:42Speaker 1: has elapsed since the original request to the grand jury.
- 47:46Speaker 1: I explained that the Palm Beach Police Department had concluded
- 47:48Speaker 1: the case in December of 2005 and has been waiting
- 47:52Speaker 1: for the case to go forward. Belachovic stated the original
- 47:56Speaker 1: offer was again offered to the new defense attorney. She
- 47:59Speaker 1: was waiting for their answer, and by Friday, May 19, 2006,
- 48:04Speaker 1: she stated she would advise me of that answer. On
- 48:07Speaker 1: May 22, 2006, I received several phone calls throughout the
- 48:11Speaker 1: day from Mr. Redacted, who stated he had been followed
- 48:14Speaker 1: aggressively by a private investigator. Mr. Redacted stated that as
- 48:19Speaker 1: he drove to and from work and running errands throughout
- 48:21Speaker 1: the county, the same vehicle was behind him running other
- 48:24Speaker 1: vehicles off the road in an attempt not to lose
- 48:27Speaker 1: sight of Mr. Redacted's vehicle. I explained to him, as Mr.
- 48:31Speaker 1: Epstein explained, had retained new legal counsel, it was possible
- 48:35Speaker 1: it would be a new private investigator or investigators following
- 48:39Speaker 1: him to observe his daily activities. I also explained to
- 48:42Speaker 1: him that there was a meeting scheduled with ASA Lana
- 48:46Speaker 1: Belahovic and attorney Jack Goldberger at Mr. Kirscher's office scheduled
- 48:51Speaker 1: on June 1, 2006 at 9 a.m. I attempted to
- 48:54Speaker 1: call ASA Lana Belahovic to inform her of the private
- 48:58Speaker 1: investigators following Mr. Redacted, however, She was on her vacation
- 49:03Speaker 1: during the week of May 22nd through May 30th, 2006.
- 49:07Speaker 1: This lady was living the life of Riley, huh? While
- 49:10Speaker 1: girls were getting raped and trafficked and abused on her watch,
- 49:14Speaker 1: she's on another vacation. On May 23, 2006, I received
- 49:18Speaker 1: other phone calls from Mr. and Mrs. Redacted who advised
- 49:22Speaker 1: that they were able to acquire the private investigator's license
- 49:25Speaker 1: plate information. The subject following them was again driving very
- 49:29Speaker 1: aggressively and caused Mrs. Redacted to run off the road. Ms.
- 49:34Speaker 1: Redacted stated the vehicle is a green Chevy Monte Carlo
- 49:37Speaker 1: bearing Florida tag, Redacted, The vehicle is registered to Zachary
- 49:41Speaker 1: Betchard of Jupiter, Florida. Betchard is employed by Condor Investigations
- 49:47Speaker 1: from Jupiter, Florida. Betchard is a licensed private investigator in
- 49:51Speaker 1: the state of Florida. Since the discovery of the threat
- 49:54Speaker 1: made against one of the victims in this case, Redacted,
- 49:58Speaker 1: I requested subpoena for all the calls made and received
- 50:01Speaker 1: from Redacted during the month of March 2006 for her
- 50:04Speaker 1: cell phone and her home phone. I had confirmed with
- 50:07Speaker 1: Florida State University the exact date to spring break for 2006.
- 50:12Speaker 1: The spring break was from March 4, 2006 through March 12, 2006.
- 50:18Speaker 1: I received a subpoena from Sprint Nextel with all calls
- 50:21Speaker 1: made during the month of March 2006. I reviewed... The
- 50:26Speaker 1: 989 calls made and received during the month of March 2006,
- 50:30Speaker 1: I observed on March 7, 2006, redacted made and received
- 50:32Speaker 1: 35 calls during that day. On March 7, 2006, at 11.03 a.m.,
- 50:35Speaker 1: redacted made a call to the victim, which lasted 492 seconds,
- 50:38Speaker 1: 8 minutes and 2 seconds. The victim then returned the
- 50:40Speaker 1: call at 11.16 a.m., which lasted 6 seconds, The victim
- 50:52Speaker 1: then made contact with Redacted at 11.22 a.m. for 877.2 seconds,
- 50:58Speaker 1: 14 minutes and 6 seconds. These sequence of calls were
- 51:03Speaker 1: consistent with what the victim had described to me on
- 51:06Speaker 1: the date of the intimidation. Immediately after speaking with the victim,
- 51:10Speaker 1: Redacted makes a call to Sarah Kellen, Epstein's assistant, which
- 51:13Speaker 1: lasts for 48 seconds. A call is then immediately received.
- 51:17Speaker 1: a telephone number registered to a corporation affiliated with Jeffrey
- 51:21Speaker 1: Epstein located at 457 Madison Avenue in New York. An
- 51:26Speaker 1: extensive computer check revealed 457 Madison Avenue is a business
- 51:31Speaker 1: address in which Epstein has his corporations assigned to. Epstein
- 51:35Speaker 1: had corporation attorney Darren Indyke register the business and register
- 51:40Speaker 1: himself as an agent. I also observed Epstein's has his
- 51:44Speaker 1: El Zorro Ranch Corporation, New York Strategy Group, Glaine Corporation,
- 51:49Speaker 1: Jay Epstein & Company, and the Financial Strategy Group registered
- 51:53Speaker 1: to this same address. Finally, a third call is received
- 51:56Speaker 1: by redacted at 12.02 p.m. from the same corporate number,
- 52:00Speaker 1: which lasts 12 minutes and 1 second. It should be
- 52:03Speaker 1: noted that there is no further contact with either the
- 52:06Speaker 1: victim during the month of March or April of 2006.
- 52:10Speaker 1: I also noted that there was no further contact with
- 52:13Speaker 1: Sarah Kellen or Jeffrey Epstein during the remainder of the
- 52:16Speaker 1: month of March or April 2006. On June 1, 2006,
- 52:21Speaker 1: ASA Lana Belahovic telephoned me to inform me of the
- 52:26Speaker 1: meeting that occurred with Attorney Jack Goldberger in reference to
- 52:29Speaker 1: this case. She advised she would make her determination on
- 52:33Speaker 1: whether to file on this case or not by Monday,
- 52:36Speaker 1: June 5, 2006. On June 29th, 2006, I had spoken
- 52:41Speaker 1: to ASA Lana Belahovic, who informed me that the case
- 52:46Speaker 1: would be sent to the grand jury for charges. She
- 52:48Speaker 1: informed me that the grand jury would convene on July 19th,
- 52:51Speaker 1: 2006 to hear the Epstein case. Belahovic, stated state attorney
- 52:57Speaker 1: Barry Krischer, made the determination to go to the grand
- 52:59Speaker 1: jury to hear the case. On July 12th, 2006, I
- 53:03Speaker 1: spoke with Ms. Redacted, mother of the victim, Redacted who
- 53:07Speaker 1: inquired about the status of the case. I explained to
- 53:10Speaker 1: her that I was told we would be going to
- 53:12Speaker 1: the grand jury during the week of July 19, 2006.
- 53:16Speaker 1: She stated she had not been contacted as of yet
- 53:19Speaker 1: by the state attorney's office for any information. I provided
- 53:23Speaker 1: her with the telephone numbers to the state attorney's office.
- 53:26Speaker 1: The investigation continues. This is the end of the report.
- 53:31Speaker 1: So there you have it, folks, the full Palm Beach
- 53:34Speaker 1: police report into Jeffrey Epstein's activity and what he was
- 53:38Speaker 1: up to, according to the official police report from Palm Beach.
- 53:41Speaker 1: So I think it's important that we have all of
- 53:44Speaker 1: these facts laid out for us, right? And that way
- 53:46Speaker 1: it gives us a blueprint and something to revert back
- 53:49Speaker 1: to and take a look at when we have any
- 53:51Speaker 1: issues that pop up in the case. So we're going
- 53:54Speaker 1: to continue adding these court documents, these new unredacted court documents,
- 53:58Speaker 1: and we're going to continue to do that until we
- 54:00Speaker 1: get them all added to the catalog. That way we
- 54:03Speaker 1: all have as much context as possible. All right, folks,
- 54:06Speaker 1: that's going to do it for this one. All of
- 54:08Speaker 1: the information that goes with this episode can be found
- 54:11Speaker 1: in the description box.