Latest / Blind But Now I See / Marvin Sapp , Man at Mc Donalds and Phylicia Rashad
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- 2:59Speaker 2: So we Man, it's a lot of stuff that's been
- 3:01Speaker 2: happening in the world.
- 3:02Speaker 1: Man, a lot of stuff. I know y'all seeing it.
- 3:04Speaker 1: We've seen it first. Before we get to how your
- 3:05Speaker 1: mental health? How you feeling this weekend? How you good man?
- 3:10Speaker 1: You know, I feel like that's more important, Like that's
- 3:12Speaker 1: important to action for you know, how you doing, how
- 3:14Speaker 1: you're mental you know, like what space you in? I
- 3:16Speaker 1: feel a lot of people don't do that. There's a
- 3:19Speaker 1: lot of suicide going on, and you know, you gotta
- 3:22Speaker 1: check up on a friend, not just you know or
- 3:25Speaker 1: ratchet shit. You know, action friend, How things is, how
- 3:28Speaker 1: life is, How life is, my brother.
- 3:31Speaker 2: Man, life is good, bro. You know I'm in a
- 3:36Speaker 2: good space right now for sure. Yeah. Focus, staying focused
- 3:40Speaker 2: my favorite thing to tell people.
- 3:41Speaker 1: And when they ask me how I'm doing it, I
- 3:43Speaker 1: like to say, Man, I'm staying focused and I'm staying creative.
- 3:46Speaker 2: Staying focused and staying creative.
- 3:47Speaker 1: Now I did.
- 3:49Speaker 2: I did almost have a crash out moment that we
- 3:52Speaker 2: could talk about off the off the mic. Yeah, he
- 3:55Speaker 2: ain't gonna make it to the mic, definitely, but I
- 3:57Speaker 2: almost had. I almost had a crash out.
- 3:58Speaker 1: Moment, bro, for real, Like I was in them thoughts, Bro,
- 4:01Speaker 1: and I almost crashed out on two individuals. I'll be
- 4:04Speaker 1: having on this sometimes having to breathe very very aggressively,
- 4:07Speaker 1: like the testoe be having those But I just like, yeah,
- 4:11Speaker 1: I'm a bigger person, I'm a better man. Let me
- 4:13Speaker 1: let me just walk away from this situation. You would
- 4:15Speaker 1: have caught me a couple of years ago. I would
- 4:17Speaker 1: have crashed. I was just like, you know, I might
- 4:19Speaker 1: regret this, man. It was like, yeah, sometimes it don't
- 4:21Speaker 1: be worth you.
- 4:21Speaker 2: Remember what you No, I ain't even about to say
- 4:23Speaker 2: that much, but do you remember when you when you
- 4:25Speaker 2: called me? He was like, take that down. Yeah, it's
- 4:28Speaker 2: about that.
- 4:28Speaker 1: Okay, I mean we ain't gonna feed into that.
- 4:31Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's about that.
- 4:32Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 4:34Speaker 2: I don't have to block a couple of motherfuckers. Now
- 4:36Speaker 2: block him, get him out.
- 4:37Speaker 1: Of here, out of here, backspace deadly get into this though.
- 4:42Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 4:42Speaker 2: Okay, So a couple of things that has been going
- 4:44Speaker 2: on in the world, man, but most recently, Man, there's
- 4:48Speaker 2: a story about a father who was going on a
- 4:51Speaker 2: job interview, but I'm assuming he didn't have a place
- 4:54Speaker 2: to take his kids. I end up reading the whole post.
- 4:56Speaker 2: Shout out to the Spiritual Word Instagram account. But it's
- 4:59Speaker 2: a Georgia dad busted for leaving kids one, six and ten.
- 5:04Speaker 2: Those are the ages at McDonald's doing a job interview.
- 5:07Speaker 2: That's what the cops say. Right then I go into
- 5:08Speaker 2: the bio. His name is Chris Chris Louise, a twenty
- 5:12Speaker 2: four year old from a twenty four. He looked way
- 5:14Speaker 2: older than that. He looked way older than that. He
- 5:17Speaker 2: looked at least thirty four. Chris Luise, a twenty four
- 5:20Speaker 2: year old from Augusta, was arrested on March twenty second,
- 5:22Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, for leaving his three young children, ages one,
- 5:26Speaker 2: six and ten, unattended at McDonald's while going to a
- 5:31Speaker 2: job interview. A concerned customer reported the situation, and the
- 5:35Speaker 2: deputies found the children alone at the restaurant's indoor playing
- 5:38Speaker 2: ground playground okay. Luise, who did not have a vehicle,
- 5:42Speaker 2: explained he walked with his children into the McDonald's but
- 5:45Speaker 2: left them there because he didn't want them to walk
- 5:47Speaker 2: back while he interviewed. While he interviewed, Louise was charged
- 5:51Speaker 2: with deprivation of a minor and the children's mother later
- 5:55Speaker 2: picked him up. What are your I don't have children
- 6:00Speaker 2: as a man, as a father, What do you think
- 6:03Speaker 2: about this? Children's are one, six, and ten. So I'm
- 6:07Speaker 2: just gonna say, I'm just say this one thing. I'm
- 6:10Speaker 2: assuming the ten year old was on duty.
- 6:12Speaker 1: Yeah, the watcher, Yeah, I'm assuming I ain't gonna I
- 6:16Speaker 1: got mixed feelings about this. I need to need I
- 6:18Speaker 1: need more information on it, because it's like what else
- 6:21Speaker 1: you need? Why he couldn't drop it off with them?
- 6:24Speaker 1: Why he can't drop the kids off with them all?
- 6:28Speaker 1: Why is no is nobody that was available that you
- 6:31Speaker 1: could drop these kids? I need to know more information
- 6:34Speaker 1: far as that, because it could be one of those
- 6:36Speaker 1: parents that take all the responsibilities, have all the responsibilities
- 6:40Speaker 1: to be done on them. So it's like, I got
- 6:42Speaker 1: mixed feelings because it's like if I got to drop
- 6:45Speaker 1: my kids off and McDonald's while I run into an
- 6:49Speaker 1: interview of all places, bro like of all places, it's
- 6:53Speaker 1: like I I by one side. It's like this man
- 6:58Speaker 1: doing what you gotta do to support his family. But
- 7:00Speaker 1: then it's sick people in his word that you could
- 7:03Speaker 1: have came back. Your kids could have been going not teenagers,
- 7:07Speaker 1: They could have hurt theirself, somebody could have did some
- 7:09Speaker 1: harm to them. Somebody could have kidnapped your kids.
- 7:13Speaker 2: So it's like because it's nobody there, there's.
- 7:15Speaker 1: Nobody there to protect them. They it's me. I wouldn't
- 7:21Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, I wouldn't leave my kids personally, And
- 7:24Speaker 1: it's like, you get this, y'all, what's gonna happen with.
- 7:27Speaker 2: The kids and this This job better be paying one
- 7:30Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars a year.
- 7:32Speaker 1: Not even that's enough. That'll be life changing. You say,
- 7:34Speaker 1: he looked like he twenty five, but looked like he
- 7:36Speaker 1: thirty five.
- 7:36Speaker 2: Yeah, he's twenty four. He looked like he thirty four.
- 7:38Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's like, I don't know how thirty four
- 7:40Speaker 1: look because I don't know I'm a good thirty four
- 7:43Speaker 1: here you know everybody as you know, but no, like
- 7:47Speaker 1: I don't know his situation. I don't know me per
- 7:51Speaker 1: I wouldn't do it. I couldn't leave my kids in
- 7:53Speaker 1: the mc donald's while I'm running, man, they would just
- 7:56Speaker 1: have to sit in the whole way where I do
- 7:58Speaker 1: the job. Interview, like, listen, I was about to say,
- 8:00Speaker 1: like is it crazy to bring the cat on the job,
- 8:02Speaker 1: and it's crazy, But I had to explain to the interview,
- 8:06Speaker 1: like listen, I really need this job. I want to
- 8:09Speaker 1: be a father to my kids. I want to support
- 8:11Speaker 1: my kids. I clothed them, I feed them, I bade
- 8:14Speaker 1: them like I can put a roof over their head.
- 8:17Speaker 1: I need this job and to show like they in
- 8:19Speaker 1: this hallway, I couldn't leave them. I couldn't miss this opportunity.
- 8:22Speaker 1: Same time, I couldn't leave them behind.
- 8:23Speaker 2: Ether That wouldn't as a person who's in the hiring process,
- 8:28Speaker 2: That wouldn't make me consider you less for the job.
- 8:31Speaker 2: That wouldn't like drop your points in getting potentially getting
- 8:34Speaker 2: the job to me.
- 8:34Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that, but at least I'm being honest
- 8:37Speaker 1: with you. Well, what I'm saying.
- 8:38Speaker 2: What I'm saying is like if I was the person
- 8:39Speaker 2: that was hiring, if I saw you brought your kids,
- 8:41Speaker 2: that wouldn't get in the way of me hiring you
- 8:43Speaker 2: if I think you were good. So in my mind,
- 8:45Speaker 2: I'm like, bring the kids first and foremost. You got
- 8:48Speaker 2: to understand, like, no matter how bad you need the money,
- 8:52Speaker 2: I'm not no matter how bad. And it's like, bro,
- 8:55Speaker 2: I know what it's like to be broke.
- 8:56Speaker 1: Bro this world is crazy.
- 8:57Speaker 2: I know what it's like.
- 8:58Speaker 1: To be broke.
- 8:59Speaker 2: I didn't have to make tough decisions when they come
- 9:01Speaker 2: to money. I'm picking between deoder and toilet paper, Like
- 9:04Speaker 2: it's like that, I know what it's like to be broke,
- 9:06Speaker 2: but the kids are priced.
- 9:08Speaker 1: Like can you can? And my thing is that if
- 9:10Speaker 1: the mother was accessible to pick up the kids from
- 9:13Speaker 1: the precinct, right, she could have been accessible to drop
- 9:16Speaker 1: them kids.
- 9:16Speaker 2: Well do we need more information too? Because she could
- 9:19Speaker 2: have been at work and got that call and then
- 9:21Speaker 2: it was like, well now I gotta go. So maybe
- 9:24Speaker 2: she wasn't free. Maybe you know what's what this sounds
- 9:27Speaker 2: like to me? And you know, it sounds like to
- 9:29Speaker 2: me that he was in charge of watching the kids.
- 9:31Speaker 2: It was he had custody or you know, these are
- 9:34Speaker 2: his days and this is what he did with it though,
- 9:38Speaker 2: And I understand a man trying to get me, trying to.
- 9:41Speaker 1: Get paid bro.
- 9:42Speaker 2: But like you said, like going to the bro bro,
- 9:45Speaker 2: crazier things have happened, man, people it's crazy trigger trigger warning.
- 9:51Speaker 2: But family, I'm just I'm trying to say in the
- 9:54Speaker 2: most pc way, especially because of the company were family
- 9:57Speaker 2: members have been for net in the house they live in,
- 10:03Speaker 2: so you know that that's doing and everything, so you
- 10:06Speaker 2: know that that's possible to happen in the outside world.
- 10:10Speaker 1: McDonald's put too much, that's what That's what they hang
- 10:12Speaker 1: around McDonald's. I used to go to make and so
- 10:15Speaker 1: that's what they hang Grown men go to McDonald's for
- 10:18Speaker 1: Wi Fi. Yeah, for Wi Fi, And we don't know
- 10:21Speaker 1: who they is. They don't even they don't even plan
- 10:23Speaker 1: on eating nothing. They could be in the sage registry.
- 10:25Speaker 1: They could be something looking at your kids, seeing a
- 10:28Speaker 1: potential victim, and you just left them there like helpless.
- 10:32Speaker 2: So do you what do you what do you think
- 10:33Speaker 2: the ramification should be? What do you think the consequence
- 10:37Speaker 2: should be? Should he do time? No, I don't think
- 10:42Speaker 2: you should not time but a slap.
- 10:44Speaker 1: I feel alright, cool, we're gonna put you through parenting classes.
- 10:48Speaker 1: I feel like resources should be pouring at his dough.
- 10:52Speaker 1: Everybody don't got to go to Everybody don't have to
- 10:54Speaker 1: go to jail more. Resources should be like, hell, yeah,
- 10:58Speaker 1: help daycare, whether it's well something he could that could
- 11:02Speaker 1: that can give him a little help to go out
- 11:04Speaker 1: there and provide for his family because he's trying. But jail,
- 11:07Speaker 1: like jell is not doing nothing but sating the whole thing.
- 11:09Speaker 2: Can I know what the job was?
- 11:10Speaker 1: Though? I want to know it better be signed. Like,
- 11:14Speaker 1: what kind of job? What kind of job is this is?
- 11:16Speaker 1: You're gonna leave your there to walk back like naun,
- 11:20Speaker 1: I respect the respect. You're trying to hustle, but hustling backwards,
- 11:25Speaker 1: really hustling back with leaving your kids there, that's unacceptable.
- 11:29Speaker 2: So if you was in this situation, you went about.
- 11:30Speaker 1: The kids to work and they come, they come in
- 11:32Speaker 1: with me.
- 11:32Speaker 2: Let me ask you this though, if you wasn't, if
- 11:35Speaker 2: you wasn't gonna take them with you took the job
- 11:38Speaker 2: was taking if you wasn't going to, if you wasn't
- 11:41Speaker 2: going to, where would you, ma, I'm.
- 11:44Speaker 1: Dropping your grandson off with you? Yo? It says, I'm
- 11:47Speaker 1: dropping your grandson off with you, Yo, baby mama, take
- 11:51Speaker 1: your kid to work with you? Like y'all established at
- 11:54Speaker 1: these places that they give you a little lingency for
- 11:57Speaker 1: the kid to be there for a little bit. Let
- 11:59Speaker 1: me go out there and get right. There's many options
- 12:02Speaker 1: you could have did.
- 12:04Speaker 2: Yeah, well, bro, again, my my my biggest takeaway on
- 12:07Speaker 2: it is that I understand the struggle.
- 12:10Speaker 1: Bro.
- 12:10Speaker 2: The struggle put a lot of people in compromising situations
- 12:14Speaker 2: that they would never want to be in. I don't
- 12:17Speaker 2: want to judge him too crazy, though.
- 12:18Speaker 1: I ain't gonna judge him, and just I do no choice.
- 12:21Speaker 2: Though I do disapprove one hundred percent with you leaving
- 12:24Speaker 2: your children at McDonald's. McDonald's is not even the type
- 12:27Speaker 2: of place. First of all, no place is a good
- 12:28Speaker 2: place to leave kids. But McDonald's bring in so many
- 12:32Speaker 2: different types of people, like you know, like no funny shit,
- 12:35Speaker 2: but you could like you can go to like a
- 12:37Speaker 2: McDonald's and then you can go to a Starbucks. It's
- 12:39Speaker 2: two different type of people. Yeah, and maybe that sound crazy,
- 12:42Speaker 2: but at least really but at least you understand what
- 12:45Speaker 2: I'm trying to say. You know what I'm saying, Like.
- 12:47Speaker 1: Two different type of people, but at the same time,
- 12:50Speaker 1: still a threat.
- 12:51Speaker 2: One hundred percent. And so my point with him is, like, Bro,
- 12:55Speaker 2: you're leaving your kid. I could I could almost fake
- 12:57Speaker 2: understand what you was trying to do. But at the
- 12:59Speaker 2: same time, if that money wasn't like life change it
- 13:03Speaker 2: doesn't even matter how much it was. But if it
- 13:04Speaker 2: wasn't life changing money, I don't think it was worth
- 13:07Speaker 2: the risk if you potentially put your kids at harm
- 13:11Speaker 2: because even if oh my goodness, because even if your
- 13:13Speaker 2: kids is there. One years old is crazy.
- 13:15Speaker 1: Six years these kids, that's what gave it away. Year
- 13:18Speaker 1: old mind is not even developed. They still could be swindled.
- 13:22Speaker 1: But right like you want to see my dogs, come, look,
- 13:25Speaker 1: my dog's in the car. Absolutely, you need some candy
- 13:28Speaker 1: or you want to go get some toys. Mine is
- 13:30Speaker 1: programmed to go. Absolutely. Don't matter how much you say
- 13:33Speaker 1: and say, oh, don't, don't, don't talk to strangers. It
- 13:37Speaker 1: could be somebody just watching you, watching you like they
- 13:40Speaker 1: just leave and like, oh, your daddy told me to
- 13:42Speaker 1: take y'all to come get y'all, to take y'all to him.
- 13:45Speaker 1: That at getting in the car, they gone. Now he
- 13:49Speaker 1: should have do better. That's heartbreaking, bro, that's heartbreaking. That
- 13:52Speaker 1: made me want to cry for real heartbreaking. I forgot
- 13:55Speaker 1: where it was at. I don't know if it was
- 13:57Speaker 1: in Texas's heartbreaking Texas or well, a thirteen year old
- 14:01Speaker 1: girl was found dead and not being a building arms
- 14:05Speaker 1: and lady shopped though my home father and grandmother and grandmother,
- 14:10Speaker 1: grandmother and the father in jail for that he participated in.
- 14:14Speaker 1: That girl was thirteen years old. I think it was
- 14:17Speaker 1: in Texas. So it's like, if you really love your kids.
- 14:24Speaker 1: You ain't gonna take that lead.
- 14:26Speaker 2: To y'all rolling with me? Yeah, you know what I mean.
- 14:30Speaker 1: I think that's your character. Yeah, Like listen, it's like,
- 14:32Speaker 1: are you really about this shit? I didn't miss the appointment.
- 14:36Speaker 1: I didn't miss the interview. Same time, I cannot stop
- 14:39Speaker 1: being a father. It was nobody to leave them with.
- 14:42Speaker 1: I had to bring them.
- 14:44Speaker 2: Also, also like no funny shit, but like what type
- 14:48Speaker 2: of decisions have you made in your life to even
- 14:51Speaker 2: force you to be in a pinch like that?
- 14:53Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
- 14:53Speaker 2: You almost got to think like what's going on with
- 14:55Speaker 2: this man? Because it's like what poor decisions have you
- 14:58Speaker 2: made in your life to the point where like you
- 15:00Speaker 2: don't got a friend. Let me tell you something about me.
- 15:02Speaker 2: If I have children, I got people that's gonna watch
- 15:05Speaker 2: my babies, period.
- 15:06Speaker 1: I got friends.
- 15:07Speaker 2: Somebody gonna watch my if it's whether if it's not
- 15:09Speaker 2: my friends. I know people. I know adults that I
- 15:11Speaker 2: that I trust, that trust me. I got family members,
- 15:14Speaker 2: I know some neighbors. I got some neighbor you.
- 15:15Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying.
- 15:16Speaker 2: So it's like it almost you gotta think, like what
- 15:18Speaker 2: type of person you gotta be? Well, you can't let
- 15:19Speaker 2: nobody you. You can't let miss whoever in the neighborhood,
- 15:22Speaker 2: the old lady, the grandmother. You know what I'm saying,
- 15:24Speaker 2: like nobody.
- 15:25Speaker 1: Sometimes when you're back against the world, people will do anything.
- 15:29Speaker 1: No man, that's that's that's it's crazy, ship my bad.
- 15:32Speaker 1: Hold on. People don't think when they're back against the wall.
- 15:35Speaker 1: They just straight go well, listen, moving on to the
- 15:38Speaker 1: next subject right here, right, damn, get that man some
- 15:41Speaker 1: services for them kids. You get that man some services.
- 15:44Speaker 1: But so what again, what should the consequences be? No
- 15:47Speaker 1: consequences parent parenting classes? He should be mandatory, right, mandatory
- 15:52Speaker 1: a certain amount of hours of being a like parenting classes. Joe,
- 15:56Speaker 1: I don't feel like because what is Joe gonna solve?
- 15:58Speaker 1: You just set him back even more. M hm. Everybody
- 16:01Speaker 1: don't got to go to jail like parenting classes, manitary
- 16:05Speaker 1: parenting classes.
- 16:06Speaker 2: Okay, Well, the next thing we're moving on to is man.
- 16:10Speaker 2: So this one is tough because Marvin sapp right, Marvina,
- 16:14Speaker 2: what do you see the best? Well, we're not seeing
- 16:17Speaker 2: the best of you this time, Marvin. We ain't seeing
- 16:20Speaker 2: the best of you than me. Everybody that's seen this
- 16:23Speaker 2: by now. But my man's is I'm gonna I'm gonna
- 16:25Speaker 2: play the clip. But my man's is preaching, right, he's he's
- 16:30Speaker 2: he's he's preaching. He's preaching. And they collecting tides. You know,
- 16:35Speaker 2: collecting tides is something that people do in churches when
- 16:38Speaker 2: they pass around a collection play and they allow you
- 16:40Speaker 2: to donate money to keep the church going, to keep
- 16:43Speaker 2: the lights on and keep the water running. This is
- 16:45Speaker 2: what this is supposed to be. Maybe pay some of
- 16:48Speaker 2: the staff, the deacons, the media people, whatever, you know
- 16:50Speaker 2: what I mean.
- 16:50Speaker 1: Like, and I don't think it's nothing wrong with that.
- 16:53Speaker 2: I think it's like, hey, I don't think it's nothing
- 16:55Speaker 2: wrong with that, right, but this clip. Church is a business.
- 16:59Speaker 2: I don't think a lot of people really realize that.
- 17:01Speaker 2: But in this clip, I don't. I got no words
- 17:04Speaker 2: for this man. And I'm gonna just go ahead and
- 17:06Speaker 2: I'm gonna play it right now.
- 17:07Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
- 17:09Speaker 2: Ship hold on.
- 17:12Speaker 1: And they understand them.
- 17:15Speaker 2: That is involved.
- 17:18Speaker 1: There's one thousand of you.
- 17:19Speaker 4: I said, close them doors, close them doors, close the doors.
- 17:23Speaker 1: Close the doors, close the doors. Some times four times
- 17:28Speaker 1: you mean business together.
- 17:31Speaker 4: Y'all ain't going no place but to the restaurant.
- 17:33Speaker 1: Hold on, first of all, mm hmm.
- 17:37Speaker 4: There's one thousand of you tonight, and those that are watching,
- 17:41Speaker 4: it's a thousand that's watching online.
- 17:45Speaker 1: This is a small set.
- 17:48Speaker 2: A thousand on line to give this.
- 17:50Speaker 1: If I get a thousand, it's one hundred men on
- 17:52Speaker 1: stage with him, by the way, one hundred men like
- 17:55Speaker 1: a hundred men.
- 17:57Speaker 2: This is like smack DVD.
- 17:59Speaker 4: Did get put the twenty dollars seed? I just think
- 18:02Speaker 4: twenty dollars a lot of money. Twenty dollars, believe it
- 18:05Speaker 4: or not. When my late wife Melinda pee Sapples Alive
- 18:08Speaker 4: was a good date.
- 18:09Speaker 1: I wonder if he told all the mane.
- 18:11Speaker 4: To the movies by box and they understand.
- 18:13Speaker 1: Hold on.
- 18:14Speaker 2: That's another one. I wonder if he asked all the
- 18:15Speaker 2: men to come up on stage where because pastors do that,
- 18:18Speaker 2: they'd be like all the deacons.
- 18:19Speaker 1: Come up on.
- 18:20Speaker 2: Hold on, let me see sodacorn, get one solda, two straws.
- 18:26Speaker 1: I wouldn't cheat that swag. I was looking at her eyes.
- 18:28Speaker 1: She's looking at my mouth. I can't do that no more.
- 18:35Speaker 4: Now everyone up here, we've all sold and seated, but
- 18:37Speaker 4: I need everyone standing up here with.
- 18:39Speaker 1: Us, with me.
- 18:40Speaker 4: To plan the seed of one hundred dollars because again,
- 18:44Speaker 4: it costs to sit up here.
- 18:46Speaker 1: I got you, it costs. See wow, So put your.
- 18:50Speaker 4: Twenty away, preachers, that twenty one't for you.
- 18:57Speaker 1: And this is what I need you to do.
- 18:58Speaker 4: If you're giving electronically, are you even giving tangibly, I'm
- 19:03Speaker 4: gonna have y'all come to the altar and give it
- 19:05Speaker 4: because I need to see a thousand people moving. Bring
- 19:09Speaker 4: them baskets. Bring I want the baskets up here. I
- 19:11Speaker 4: want to see the folk. Y'all start moving. Y'all can
- 19:15Speaker 4: bring it right now, come, come, come from. Even if
- 19:17Speaker 4: you're giving tangibly, just put.
- 19:19Speaker 1: Your hand on the corn. Take your phone and stick
- 19:23Speaker 1: it on the on the bucket.
- 19:27Speaker 2: Take your phone.
- 19:27Speaker 1: They're taking cash, apps, zels, Apple page crazy. Okay, he
- 19:33Speaker 1: give me some money too, though, not that I don't
- 19:34Speaker 1: think it really helps. Hey, cool, but right, give me
- 19:39Speaker 1: his worship by example, you get drops money in and all.
- 19:42Speaker 2: That My boy said giving worship.
- 19:45Speaker 1: I mean that's what is right. But who did you
- 19:47Speaker 1: say that? People think?
- 19:51Speaker 2: Okay, so I really want to let the whole thing play,
- 19:53Speaker 2: but we run in the show. So man, where you're
- 19:57Speaker 2: at with it? I'm gonna go through the commons. I
- 19:58Speaker 2: gotta see what the comments time about what you where
- 20:00Speaker 2: you at with it.
- 20:01Speaker 1: First of all, it's like for you to know there's
- 20:03Speaker 1: a thousand people, and it was this set up. You
- 20:06Speaker 1: ask something at the doors, clicking at the people who
- 20:07Speaker 1: was walking in. Yeah, to know that it's a thousand
- 20:10Speaker 1: people in there. Let's be real, it ain't. That's not
- 20:13Speaker 1: a guest you It was a thousand twenty And I thought,
- 20:16Speaker 1: when you go to church, you give what you can. Yeah,
- 20:18Speaker 1: it ain't old mandatory twenty dollars like. And the way
- 20:22Speaker 1: he went about it is like you're robbing me without
- 20:24Speaker 1: a gun. You holding me hot and robbing me without
- 20:29Speaker 1: a gun. Close the doors, close the doors full time?
- 20:32Speaker 1: What does that mean? Close the motherfucker?
- 20:35Speaker 2: When you said, like, when you say close the doors,
- 20:38Speaker 2: what does that mean?
- 20:39Speaker 1: Close the doors? Are standing in front of it. Nobody
- 20:41Speaker 1: can't leave out there.
- 20:42Speaker 2: Because they are. That's what they did. That's what they
- 20:44Speaker 2: do in church. They literally stand in front of the doors.
- 20:46Speaker 1: That's what I'm getting out of it. And then the
- 20:48Speaker 1: old old pastor put that twenty yards away. That's that
- 20:51Speaker 1: wasn't for you? So mean you got to like, well,
- 20:54Speaker 1: like frightanches.
- 20:56Speaker 2: For the pastor though it's like, yeah, you're supposed to
- 20:59Speaker 2: be big boss, especially you rolling up big black. It's like, yeah,
- 21:01Speaker 2: you get a hundo for the regular people get it too.
- 21:03Speaker 2: But I'm just trying to figure out, like when you
- 21:05Speaker 2: say close the doors, Like what does that mean? Because
- 21:09Speaker 2: regardless if I get ready to walk outside that door,
- 21:12Speaker 2: I have that right in that freedom to do that.
- 21:15Speaker 1: According to him, you can't, So what does it matter
- 21:17Speaker 1: whether the doors are open or closed?
- 21:18Speaker 2: So I think that's where he just messed up big time.
- 21:20Speaker 1: I said at full time aggressive and then see on
- 21:23Speaker 1: Twitter'm I'm gonna go on, I'm a fun story. Messed
- 21:25Speaker 1: up when he acts for twenty dollars whatever happened to
- 21:27Speaker 1: bring with Like the goal is for everybody to donate
- 21:31Speaker 1: twenty dollars get twenty hours. But if you can't just
- 21:34Speaker 1: bring what you can, I ain't know. I had to
- 21:38Speaker 1: come to church with a whole bunch of money. I
- 21:39Speaker 1: ain't know if you're gonna ask me for I don't know.
- 21:42Speaker 1: I just have my different views on you. I went
- 21:44Speaker 1: to one church one time, right, and he like, oh,
- 21:48Speaker 1: I need twenty people to bring up fifty dollars. I'm
- 21:52Speaker 1: looking around. Okay, all right, now we're gonna forty. Now
- 21:59Speaker 1: let me get let me get twenty people. In a
- 22:01Speaker 1: matter of fact, fifty did dad, So let me get
- 22:03Speaker 1: thirty people to bring up forty. I see people going,
- 22:08Speaker 1: oh if I could do, let me get five people
- 22:10Speaker 1: to bring up one hundred. I'm like, what the hell
- 22:12Speaker 1: is going on in here? Then he asks for twenty.
- 22:16Speaker 1: Certain amount of people don he asks for ten? Certain
- 22:18Speaker 1: amount of people do? He asks for five? He said,
- 22:21Speaker 1: I see a lot of y'all didn't get up. Even
- 22:23Speaker 1: if y'all got fifty cent, bring it up here. I'll
- 22:25Speaker 1: take you. I'll put fifty cent and make a dollar.
- 22:27Speaker 1: I said, Oh, I ain't even gonna see what I
- 22:30Speaker 1: was gonna say. But I'm like, he like, come on,
- 22:33Speaker 1: what you don't got No, you don't got no cash.
- 22:34Speaker 1: It's an atm in the back of the church.
- 22:37Speaker 2: My question is this forty thousand dollars right? What is
- 22:42Speaker 2: it going to? What is it going what is it for?
- 22:45Speaker 2: What is it for? And I'm just genuinely like, what
- 22:48Speaker 2: is it for? And my thing is this?
- 22:50Speaker 1: And we don't know people financials to know that they
- 22:52Speaker 1: even have twenty dollars in their pocket. Some people come
- 22:55Speaker 1: to church for the word, for a blessing unless they're
- 22:57Speaker 1: going through something. They underwater, they under pressure, need the
- 23:00Speaker 1: Lord to lift it off them, to walk them through,
- 23:02Speaker 1: to carry it. And you just diggy up. I can
- 23:06Speaker 1: give twenty dollars. What if I don't got that twenty dollars.
- 23:08Speaker 1: What if I'm having a hard time eating right now? Brother,
- 23:10Speaker 1: I don't got twenty dollars to spare right now.
- 23:13Speaker 2: That's on life. My twenty dollars allocated, They got somewhere
- 23:16Speaker 2: to be, you know what I mean. Like, I don't
- 23:18Speaker 2: got twenty dollars to spare right now. My thing is this,
- 23:21Speaker 2: I'm a Christian. I grew up in a Christian family.
- 23:24Speaker 2: A lot of my uncles are pastors. Like I was
- 23:26Speaker 2: the type of person that was going to church both services.
- 23:29Speaker 2: I'm going more than just Sunday. I'm going for the praise, practice,
- 23:34Speaker 2: all that stuff, you know what I mean. So church
- 23:36Speaker 2: has always been to play a big part of my life.
- 23:39Speaker 2: And I just gotta say, I just got to say
- 23:42Speaker 2: that what is the point of Christianity? Right Like our
- 23:45Speaker 2: hopes is to make this look sexy enough to inspire
- 23:48Speaker 2: people to see the way that we live in and
- 23:52Speaker 2: be inspired by it. Right, and then maybe they dedicate
- 23:55Speaker 2: their life to Christ. That's kind of the whole point
- 23:58Speaker 2: when they say spread the guy. Right. But you gotta
- 24:02Speaker 2: understand there are so many people that are skeptics of
- 24:06Speaker 2: all religions, but specifically Christianity, big skeptics, right, you put
- 24:11Speaker 2: your hands up, So people are big skeptics of Christianity.
- 24:15Speaker 2: You gotta ask yourself, how does this look to the
- 24:18Speaker 2: people because we're trying to we're trying to get people to.
- 24:22Speaker 1: Come over.
- 24:23Speaker 2: When you I believe that you're doing that and this
- 24:26Speaker 2: being created and made into content, I believe you set
- 24:29Speaker 2: us back because so many people are already on the
- 24:32Speaker 2: fence and now they're like, oh, you pimping us, you
- 24:34Speaker 2: hustling us in the church. Bro, listen, I want my
- 24:37Speaker 2: pastor to look good. I want my pastors to live good.
- 24:40Speaker 2: I want my pastor to look good. I want him
- 24:42Speaker 2: to ride clean. I want my pastor lift. If my
- 24:44Speaker 2: doctor can live a good life, I want my pastor
- 24:46Speaker 2: to live a good life. But this what you're gonna
- 24:50Speaker 2: do with forty thousand dollars outside of what the church
- 24:53Speaker 2: need to keep the lights running. In the water, going like,
- 24:56Speaker 2: what are you gonna do with how? Where am I
- 24:58Speaker 2: gonna see that money for my community?
- 25:01Speaker 1: Man? Where am I gonna see that money? Is it
- 25:04Speaker 1: going into a center where mothers who don't mothers who
- 25:08Speaker 1: gotta go to work and they can't find babysitters place
- 25:11Speaker 1: for your kids? Is it gonna go to there where
- 25:13Speaker 1: they can drop the kids off for free after school
- 25:16Speaker 1: to give them extra help that they need. Like I
- 25:18Speaker 1: believe in God, I love Jesus, you know just that.
- 25:21Speaker 1: But these pastors in these churches, we don't bump showed
- 25:27Speaker 1: to the shoulder, keeping it rail like I just don't
- 25:31Speaker 1: agree on their take on a lot of things. It's
- 25:33Speaker 1: like some passoress. You don't see them unless they need
- 25:35Speaker 1: they it's a call for action. When they need something,
- 25:38Speaker 1: then you'll see them walking through the neighborhoods. Then the
- 25:41Speaker 1: pastor thenated leaders of the community. Honestly, no disrespect. I
- 25:46Speaker 1: feel it's bullshit. Don't get me wrong. Some passes is good,
- 25:51Speaker 1: of course, I feel like it's bullshit. We walk on
- 25:56Speaker 1: we put to be walking on a Christian ale with
- 25:59Speaker 1: a lot of these pastors, is not moving like Christians.
- 26:01Speaker 2: Forty thousand dollars. Though, I just want to know, like
- 26:04Speaker 2: what is the overhead for the church? Like what's the
- 26:06Speaker 2: electric bier? What's the property tax, what's the I don't know.
- 26:09Speaker 2: If you pay a mortgage on, y'all pay tax. You
- 26:12Speaker 2: don't pay taxes on the church. So I just, I
- 26:13Speaker 2: just I just really want to know. And if I'm
- 26:16Speaker 2: offering my money, I deserve it, right, No different than
- 26:18Speaker 2: the way America works. Right, It's like it's my vote,
- 26:21Speaker 2: the police work for me, these my tax dollars. I
- 26:24Speaker 2: get to know quote unquote, even though even though we
- 26:28Speaker 2: know that our money is going to places that we're
- 26:29Speaker 2: not aware of. Right, but like the lie that you
- 26:32Speaker 2: were supposed to believe, right, let's go off the lie.
- 26:35Speaker 1: The law say.
- 26:36Speaker 2: I'm supposed to know where my money go. That's what
- 26:38Speaker 2: the law say, as far as the government right to
- 26:40Speaker 2: make you feel good, to make you feel good. So
- 26:42Speaker 2: when it comes to the church, it's like I want
- 26:44Speaker 2: to know where forty thousand dollars is most people, some
- 26:46Speaker 2: people don't make forty thousand dollars in a year. They
- 26:49Speaker 2: don't where is that money going to. I believe that
- 26:51Speaker 2: money should go to a center.
- 26:53Speaker 1: This guy. Some people don't even make half of that. A.
- 26:55Speaker 2: Yeah, this guy who we talked about drop his kids
- 26:59Speaker 2: off at McDonald know, things like that, the church to have.
- 27:03Speaker 1: That cover church to for help.
- 27:08Speaker 2: But see, you remember when it was a hurricane that
- 27:10Speaker 2: was going on. I don't remember what city, but it
- 27:12Speaker 2: was about Joe Oustin. Listen as a Christian. See, the
- 27:18Speaker 2: thing is is like and I'm going to pay times
- 27:21Speaker 2: for that, Like we gotta help. See, I believe that
- 27:26Speaker 2: the church is God's house, right, but this church is
- 27:29Speaker 2: in a community, it's in a neighborhood somewhere. You know
- 27:32Speaker 2: what I'm saying. We should be given back, we should
- 27:34Speaker 2: be pulling, we should be helping people. How can we
- 27:37Speaker 2: help the people. If there's a mother that she needs,
- 27:39Speaker 2: she needs they care for her kids, she can go
- 27:41Speaker 2: to that church. Somebody in this church congregation.
- 27:44Speaker 1: There's a lawyer, there's a credit specialist, there's a stock
- 27:47Speaker 1: you know what I mean. There's a we got, we
- 27:48Speaker 1: got people. Everything, we got. Churches could pull so much
- 27:52Speaker 1: muscles and so much muscle.
- 27:54Speaker 2: But and so I'm saying, like, with all these talented
- 27:57Speaker 2: people in the congregation, we should have a place in
- 28:00Speaker 2: the church where grown folks can get some help to
- 28:01Speaker 2: you need your credit, come get it done for free.
- 28:04Speaker 2: You're giving your TOIDs even if you didn't, even if
- 28:07Speaker 2: you specifically didn't give Todds. We got so many people
- 28:10Speaker 2: that gave Todds, and we're gonna pay this educator a
- 28:13Speaker 2: little fee.
- 28:14Speaker 1: Come through. They gonna be here from the hours of
- 28:15Speaker 1: this and this. You know what I mean. Sometimes people
- 28:18Speaker 1: just don't have it. People don't have it. You forcing
- 28:22Speaker 1: me to find twenty dollars lock the doors. It's like
- 28:26Speaker 1: you falcing me.
- 28:27Speaker 2: It's tough. It's tough. What I want to ask? What
- 28:30Speaker 2: do you please do us a favorite? Introduce yourself, tell
- 28:33Speaker 2: us your name, tell us who you are, and then
- 28:35Speaker 2: tell us your story. You said you was in Sunday School,
- 28:37Speaker 2: give us the background real quick and speaking to the
- 28:39Speaker 2: microphone exactly. Okay, yep, hi, you got it. You know
- 28:43Speaker 2: I'm gonna cut that part of go ahead.
- 28:45Speaker 5: I'm I'm Chris.
- 28:47Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, Tiana, and take on it.
- 28:54Speaker 5: So I was in Sunday School yesterday and we were
- 28:57Speaker 5: talking about it, and we were like, he never said
- 29:00Speaker 5: lock the door, So at any point he did it,
- 29:03Speaker 5: he didn't. So at any point in time, anybody could
- 29:05Speaker 5: have left, but nobody chose to let. Everybody chose to stay.
- 29:09Speaker 5: So at the same time, it's like, what what was
- 29:15Speaker 5: trying to do? What was the purpose of them closing
- 29:17Speaker 5: the door? I stays still leave, So we were confused
- 29:21Speaker 5: about that part.
- 29:22Speaker 2: But yeah, that's a that's a fair point. That's a
- 29:25Speaker 2: fair point that That's what I was saying earlier. It's like,
- 29:28Speaker 2: if I can leave whenever I get ready to, then
- 29:31Speaker 2: why like the doors is like more so.
- 29:33Speaker 1: Like the perception they stood in front of the doors, I.
- 29:36Speaker 2: Don't know that. We don't know. All we saw was
- 29:39Speaker 2: the broadcast of him being on stage and he had
- 29:42Speaker 2: a hundred deacons on stade. I know there was deacons.
- 29:44Speaker 2: Deacon's got that.
- 29:45Speaker 1: Look, there was a hundred deacons on stage right.
- 29:48Speaker 2: And so again I grew up in church, so I
- 29:50Speaker 2: can I can fathom how some of this might go.
- 29:53Speaker 2: But like forty thousand, I can't fathom that, like this
- 29:55Speaker 2: must be a mega mega, mega church and then like
- 29:58Speaker 2: be transparent, like be honest, like yo, the church going
- 30:01Speaker 2: out of business.
- 30:03Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's what it is. I have known
- 30:04Speaker 1: that if it is there, okay, cool, let's save that.
- 30:07Speaker 1: But if it's like, yo, we can't make the payment
- 30:09Speaker 1: forever this month, whatever that is. Especially if it's if
- 30:11Speaker 1: it's Marvels out there, maybe you can make an assumption
- 30:13Speaker 1: it might be a big church. He's he's a star.
- 30:16Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean. So it's like, okay,
- 30:19Speaker 2: well then let us know, like y'all we need money.
- 30:22Speaker 2: We not we we we don't got what we need.
- 30:24Speaker 2: We don't got enough money for the books. Can y'all
- 30:26Speaker 2: come together and help us out?
- 30:29Speaker 1: I don't know. I feeling like some churches is colts.
- 30:32Speaker 1: What you mean by that cool? I mean by that,
- 30:35Speaker 1: I mean come praise it and that, but give me
- 30:39Speaker 1: everything that you gotta he your pocket. I feel like
- 30:42Speaker 1: it's gonna beats. They tell you what you want to.
- 30:46Speaker 1: Let me put my hands on you, all right? That
- 30:48Speaker 1: story my grandfather, right, guysha taking me to my mom Joss,
- 30:53Speaker 1: I could work out before I got the guy. Hold up,
- 30:57Speaker 1: that's what's this, daddy? So open your hand and rub
- 31:00Speaker 1: this on your face and your eyes, and I'm like,
- 31:02Speaker 1: what is this? Holy water? Oh? I got this from
- 31:05Speaker 1: Peter Popo.
- 31:06Speaker 6: Oh yo, roll I like that.
- 31:13Speaker 1: My grandfather He's like, come on, man, I'm telling you
- 31:15Speaker 1: this is the good stuff. Your eyes don't come back.
- 31:18Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, No, he ain't said that.
- 31:20Speaker 1: I rubbed it on that to please them, rubbed on
- 31:23Speaker 1: it this, that and dirt. A couple of years. I said, Daddy,
- 31:26Speaker 1: well happened to that oil? He said, maybe gave me
- 31:29Speaker 1: a bad batch of water, bad batch of holy water.
- 31:32Speaker 1: It's crazy, yo, he said, you know that, He said drinking.
- 31:35Speaker 1: If you're drinking this, I'm not drinking it. Like, what
- 31:38Speaker 1: is what is? What is holy water? Even? I guess
- 31:42Speaker 1: the water that they prayed over, it's like it's haloal
- 31:44Speaker 1: water sent you water, it's hallowed. I'm just like it's allowed, yo.
- 31:52Speaker 1: I'm just like you. But it's really like church is
- 31:56Speaker 1: like that, just getting over on these elderly people. Bro.
- 32:00Speaker 2: What's crazy is like my grandma. Like I would visit
- 32:03Speaker 2: my grandma every Sunday. And for my grandma was older,
- 32:06Speaker 2: so for the most part, whenever I seen her, she
- 32:07Speaker 2: was laying down, she was in her bed, she was
- 32:09Speaker 2: in her room, and the number one channel she always
- 32:11Speaker 2: had on was Peter pop Off, Bro. And every time
- 32:14Speaker 2: I go in there, I say, big Mama, my grandfather,
- 32:16Speaker 2: I kissed big Mama. I talked to Big Mama a
- 32:18Speaker 2: little bit, but Peter pop Off was always on the
- 32:20Speaker 2: station and when Ma and all that, hold on, hold
- 32:23Speaker 2: on now, hello, what holongbing?
- 32:26Speaker 1: Hold on?
- 32:27Speaker 2: Wait a minute.
- 32:29Speaker 1: I like, I like my pastor, TDJ your pastor, but
- 32:34Speaker 1: I feel like that's I'm not gonna curse. It could
- 32:37Speaker 1: be swindling people. You think TDJ is swindling people when you
- 32:41Speaker 1: calling them and you're telling them, hey, hey, hey, how
- 32:45Speaker 1: you doing wolf, You're making them feel welcome.
- 32:49Speaker 2: You're supposed to make him feel welcome.
- 32:50Speaker 1: This, that, and then next you know that welcome, get
- 32:53Speaker 1: that check book out, get the money or the sent
- 32:55Speaker 1: in and everything else. Some of these people know, I
- 32:57Speaker 1: don't got nothing in sending y'all everything they have. The
- 33:00Speaker 1: Bible say, pay tides, Yeah you could. You could pay
- 33:03Speaker 1: ties when you go to but you don't gotta pay
- 33:05Speaker 1: that church tie dischurch tiede dischurch tide.
- 33:08Speaker 2: Pay ten percent ten percent.
- 33:11Speaker 1: So it's like, why I'm giving Why you telling me
- 33:13Speaker 1: maybe maybe twenty dollars, twenty dollars probably tempersent, No, no, no,
- 33:16Speaker 1: I can't just give you what I can affoid.
- 33:19Speaker 2: What if the church maybe what if they was lacking
- 33:22Speaker 2: on the ties for a couple of Sundays and they
- 33:23Speaker 2: ain't saying nothing, but.
- 33:24Speaker 1: They could be lacking all a one What if I
- 33:26Speaker 1: can't afford toimes? Is hard? So you're saying how much eggs? Is? Okay?
- 33:30Speaker 2: Hold on scenario. Let me just ask you. So let's
- 33:33Speaker 2: say four Sundays went by and they ain't really been
- 33:36Speaker 2: getting no tides, and it's like the electric bill, the
- 33:40Speaker 2: property whatever it is, I don't know, the mortgane, the
- 33:42Speaker 2: rent for the church whatever, it's like, they don't know
- 33:44Speaker 2: what they're gonna be able to pay.
- 33:45Speaker 1: And then marvels sapp come through.
- 33:46Speaker 2: He the start right, because I don't think he's an
- 33:48Speaker 2: actual path He might be, you know, I mean I
- 33:49Speaker 2: don't and I don't know if he's a pastor for
- 33:51Speaker 2: that property, that church, that address specifically, But what if
- 33:54Speaker 2: he come through, he'd be like, Hey, yo, if y'all
- 33:56Speaker 2: don't get it's been three four Sunday, y'all ain't gave.
- 33:58Speaker 1: It up, give it up? But how do we know
- 34:01Speaker 1: these people have Do you feel but regardless session it
- 34:04Speaker 1: is hard, regardless, do you feel like, do you feel
- 34:07Speaker 1: like if it has been three four Sundays and they
- 34:09Speaker 1: haven't given it that the church is just accept that, bo,
- 34:13Speaker 1: How can the church not accept it if they don't
- 34:15Speaker 1: have it? Marvesap you this big mega started go do
- 34:19Speaker 1: a concert to raise money then and donated to the
- 34:23Speaker 1: church of the church.
- 34:23Speaker 2: You needed this money. What if he said, that's a
- 34:25Speaker 2: lot of work. We can just ask the people because
- 34:27Speaker 2: I know that they got it.
- 34:27Speaker 1: Like, what if the people don't have it, I'm jaxxing
- 34:29Speaker 1: on for something that they don't have.
- 34:30Speaker 2: But like he said, because I know you're gonna go
- 34:32Speaker 2: out to eat anyway, which I thought was wrong because
- 34:34Speaker 2: it's like, that's my business.
- 34:35Speaker 1: Do you feed what I'm going to do? What about
- 34:38Speaker 1: the people that's not going out, that's going home to
- 34:39Speaker 1: eat whos and nodles and peanut butter and jelly seanwich
- 34:42Speaker 1: just because that's a lot. Yeah, for real, it's hard,
- 34:45Speaker 1: hard for a lot of people. Bro. I don't have
- 34:47Speaker 1: twenty dollars right now. Facts some people more blessed than others.
- 34:52Speaker 1: Just give what you can. That's what God said, give
- 34:55Speaker 1: what you can. Not telling me what if I don't
- 34:58Speaker 1: got twenty hollars? What if this? What if only got
- 35:01Speaker 1: ten out to give? Because I need this? Another tend
- 35:02Speaker 1: to get to work for this week. Hey bro hey
- 35:07Speaker 1: BROT mean I like I like I said, love God,
- 35:09Speaker 1: I will never go agains it. I said. My grandparents
- 35:12Speaker 1: go crazy when I talk about it, but not for
- 35:15Speaker 1: It's like some of these churches be gimmicks. It's a
- 35:20Speaker 1: passage gen right now, white hair right who the pastor?
- 35:24Speaker 1: White hair? Who's at a pastor from Brooklyn that's in generator?
- 35:28Speaker 1: Now all the one who.
- 35:28Speaker 6: Got robbed that stage crazy, that's leading a flock of people, right, yeah, man, yeah,
- 35:38Speaker 6: yeah man.
- 35:39Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 35:39Speaker 1: Then then we had the curse and pastor right, who's
- 35:43Speaker 1: that It's a cursing passage that just recently died and
- 35:48Speaker 1: he cursed in his church. He had fuck you Fridays
- 35:52Speaker 1: and all had the twerking in the pul pin. He
- 35:56Speaker 1: even wrote a book and had a toll from the
- 35:58Speaker 1: book from the bullshit to thes are you Pastor?
- 36:04Speaker 2: I just think that one thing's important to remember that
- 36:07Speaker 2: religion is a man made construct, not that, not that
- 36:11Speaker 2: the idea of religion, because when you think about the Bible, right,
- 36:14Speaker 2: the Bible was a culmination of multiple authors, people who
- 36:17Speaker 2: was doing incredible things in the world, and they bring
- 36:21Speaker 2: these individual stories together to create what we know is
- 36:24Speaker 2: to be the Bible, right, So it's like God didn't
- 36:26Speaker 2: write the Bible. These men wrote the Bible. So I
- 36:30Speaker 2: say that to say I set the table real quick
- 36:31Speaker 2: to talk about religion. Religion I think is influenced by God.
- 36:36Speaker 2: But we got to understand. Christianity wasn't a thing when
- 36:39Speaker 2: Jesus was walking around the world.
- 36:40Speaker 1: Though.
- 36:41Speaker 2: I say that to say anything that is the inception
- 36:45Speaker 2: or the creation of man, it's susceptible to some bullshit
- 36:49Speaker 2: every single time. And I only say that to say.
- 36:51Speaker 1: We don't get it right. Be human, we don't get
- 36:54Speaker 1: it right.
- 36:55Speaker 2: I say that to say for my people, I don't
- 36:57Speaker 2: I hate to think that people could feel less inspired
- 37:02Speaker 2: by Christianity because of this, or they believe even less.
- 37:05Speaker 2: But I just want people to know, put your faith
- 37:09Speaker 2: in God, don't put your faith in religion. And I
- 37:11Speaker 2: don't know if that's wrong for me to say it's not,
- 37:13Speaker 2: but I feel like where there's religion, there are imperfect people.
- 37:16Speaker 1: That's not that's how you that's what you feel. That's
- 37:18Speaker 1: coming from a religious man. Don't get me wrong, And
- 37:20Speaker 1: mom a sap. My platform is always over the If
- 37:22Speaker 1: you want to come and talk about it. You know,
- 37:25Speaker 1: just podcast is not a little podcast. If you want
- 37:27Speaker 1: to talk about it, if we can talk about it,
- 37:29Speaker 1: or if any other pastor want to come up and
- 37:31Speaker 1: talk about it, how they feel. Man Like we said,
- 37:34Speaker 1: we just two men that have different opinions and we
- 37:37Speaker 1: just be trying because at the end of the day,
- 37:38Speaker 1: I feel church is not doing enough for the communities.
- 37:41Speaker 1: No more, I don't see I really don't see a
- 37:45Speaker 1: lot of pantries going on. No more. I don't see
- 37:47Speaker 1: hot meals being like all right the pantry thing.
- 37:50Speaker 2: Right, church should be running the hot meal every Sunday,
- 37:53Speaker 2: every something.
- 37:54Speaker 1: Every Wednesday, every Thursday something, you know, how like sometimes
- 37:56Speaker 1: you can go to the park give back, even if
- 37:58Speaker 1: you make it sandwiches to give it to them something
- 38:00Speaker 1: yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Come on people out here,
- 38:02Speaker 1: it's hungry. And then we just feel like we see
- 38:04Speaker 1: them like it's regular. There's people that look just like
- 38:07Speaker 1: us that's hungry. Don't know what the next mail going
- 38:09Speaker 1: to be, What ain't next check gonna come through? But
- 38:12Speaker 1: we should be able to turn to the church to
- 38:13Speaker 1: go eat, right.
- 38:15Speaker 2: I think so.
- 38:16Speaker 1: Sometimes you can't pay a bail you got laid or
- 38:19Speaker 1: if we're supposed to turn to the churches, right, this
- 38:21Speaker 1: is what ties.
- 38:21Speaker 2: Is supposed to be for the church should at least
- 38:23Speaker 2: give you a job like and then it's sweet. I
- 38:26Speaker 2: mean yeah, instead of giving you money, they should be
- 38:28Speaker 2: like you, what do you need? You need one hundred
- 38:31Speaker 2: and fifty dollars, I'll tell you what, Come and do this.
- 38:34Speaker 2: When you got time, come do this and you can
- 38:36Speaker 2: get that one hundred and fifty.
- 38:37Speaker 1: Yeah. But a lot of churches. I ain't gonna say
- 38:39Speaker 1: no names, but there's churches I just don't great away,
- 38:41Speaker 1: and it turns me away from it, to be honest,
- 38:44Speaker 1: I feel turns me away from like the only time,
- 38:47Speaker 1: the only time I'm saying you is when you need me. Yeah,
- 38:50Speaker 1: you need me for a vote, you need me for
- 38:53Speaker 1: to do something like come on? People die every day, summertime,
- 38:59Speaker 1: some time. But eighty degrees. How many people died on Saturday?
- 39:03Speaker 2: What about funerals? What about funerals?
- 39:04Speaker 1: How they don't open the doors for the funeral?
- 39:06Speaker 2: What about funerals just needing to be taken care of?
- 39:08Speaker 2: Some people can't some people can't bury their levels.
- 39:11Speaker 1: Man, it's not even open your doors to the churches now,
- 39:14Speaker 1: don't pay for that fun a wrong. Come here, I
- 39:17Speaker 1: bring the body here, I speak for free. I know
- 39:20Speaker 1: it's hard, why I'm from this neighborhood. I seen your
- 39:23Speaker 1: kid on the corners. I seen your kid playing basketball.
- 39:26Speaker 1: Wrong place, wrong time, things happen. But I'm gonna open
- 39:29Speaker 1: my church for you and your family that could do
- 39:32Speaker 1: the repass downstairs. Get you two hours, you know, eat,
- 39:36Speaker 1: no mingle amongst family, and then okay, cool, we gotta
- 39:39Speaker 1: shut it down. How many churches do that? And if
- 39:42Speaker 1: it's a church I did that, did it?
- 39:44Speaker 2: Shot out to them?
- 39:44Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out to you, and that hit me up.
- 39:48Speaker 1: Let's talk about it. But until then, the passes. I
- 39:52Speaker 1: know they haven't been doing it all right.
- 39:54Speaker 2: So we're gonna move on to this next subject. Right here,
- 39:55Speaker 2: we got the queen, the one, the example, Felicia Rashad.
- 40:02Speaker 2: I love her. I've always loved her. Yeah cosby show.
- 40:05Speaker 2: She was the mom.
- 40:05Speaker 1: She was a mother to a lot of people.
- 40:07Speaker 2: Yeah, I've always loved he. I always thought she was
- 40:08Speaker 2: a great example of like a graceful miss beautiful woman.
- 40:13Speaker 2: I always thought she was the illness, you know what
- 40:14Speaker 2: I mean. But anyway, she was on Breakfast Club and
- 40:17Speaker 2: she had something pretty interesting to say. Man, I'm ana
- 40:18Speaker 2: letter Rock.
- 40:20Speaker 7: You came up in an era of mister shad with
- 40:22Speaker 7: with dignity and grace where everything. So you have a
- 40:26Speaker 7: look at out wild Hollywood is now you just think
- 40:28Speaker 7: to yourself, boy, y'all.
- 40:30Speaker 1: Got it easy.
- 40:31Speaker 2: Y'all, y'all wouldn't have got away with.
- 40:32Speaker 1: That my day. M hm. You know, I mean you
- 40:35Speaker 1: have a look at Hollywood.
- 40:36Speaker 3: I could look at the way young ladies dress.
- 40:42Speaker 1: What's the mother pantout shoulder from here? You know?
- 40:51Speaker 3: The young ladies are so beautiful. They're so beautiful, and
- 40:58Speaker 3: something has happened in popular culture.
- 41:03Speaker 1: You know.
- 41:04Speaker 3: And I don't mean to be critical, and I hope
- 41:06Speaker 3: young ladies listening don't take this as personal criticism because
- 41:10Speaker 3: I don't mean it that way. But you're young queens.
- 41:15Speaker 3: I'm taken aback when I see on a college you know,
- 41:20Speaker 3: you came up, that's my college campus, college campus, young
- 41:24Speaker 3: women dressed in strips of clothing. But more importantly than that,
- 41:30Speaker 3: no man wants his woman to be out like that.
- 41:35Speaker 7: Right now. I grew up on method man saying wearing
- 41:39Speaker 7: three fourths of cloth, that was showing your stuff off,
- 41:46Speaker 7: you know.
- 41:46Speaker 3: It's like there's today's designers. I mean, there's ways, you know,
- 41:52Speaker 3: there's there are other things, and I.
- 41:54Speaker 1: Just leave something to the imagination. It would be nice
- 41:58Speaker 1: something from my eyes only, you know.
- 42:00Speaker 3: And like you said, they're always being sexy without showing
- 42:02Speaker 3: so much please, and it's really not sexy.
- 42:06Speaker 2: I mean one of the most sexiest, most beautiful pictures
- 42:09Speaker 2: is you.
- 42:09Speaker 7: I forgot what year it was, but you got on
- 42:11Speaker 7: like a basketball jersey. Gens you need some popcorn?
- 42:18Speaker 1: That is that iconic white jersey.
- 42:20Speaker 2: Yes that was un campus, all right, so.
- 42:26Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, So that's Felicia Reside's take on the way
- 42:31Speaker 1: ladies are dressing nowadays.
- 42:33Speaker 2: What do you think about that?
- 42:35Speaker 1: I totally agree. I don't want my woman out here
- 42:37Speaker 1: showing all her body or Shawn liked mm hmm. I'd
- 42:44Speaker 1: rather be biased to this. I don't. I wentn't want
- 42:48Speaker 1: my woman to do it, but I like the view
- 42:50Speaker 1: of it. I went one more man walking down the
- 42:53Speaker 1: block showing her ponies and half naked, and you got me.
- 43:01Speaker 1: So what you looking for attention? I don't like it.
- 43:07Speaker 1: Sometimes I want want my girl wearing legends. You got
- 43:10Speaker 1: too much ask for that? What you doing people looking like, nah,
- 43:14Speaker 1: cover up, little head on coat. Yeah, wol your mind.
- 43:17Speaker 1: Like so it's kind of but then it's like, I'm
- 43:23Speaker 1: in the clubs these females is that's working for me?
- 43:29Speaker 1: Have nothing on?
- 43:30Speaker 2: What is nothing?
- 43:32Speaker 1: Meaning? They have the bathing suit, thongs on, the fish
- 43:36Speaker 1: net stockings, bringing out the bottles, serving drinks like sex cells.
- 43:44Speaker 2: Okay, so it's like, but what about how deep when
- 43:48Speaker 2: you say sex sales? How deeply do you think that
- 43:51Speaker 2: put the door?
- 43:52Speaker 3: Bro?
- 43:52Speaker 2: Yeah, when you when they say sex sales, how deeply
- 43:55Speaker 2: do you think that goes?
- 43:56Speaker 1: Though?
- 43:56Speaker 2: Like it's the sex selling need to be Damn, I'm
- 44:01Speaker 2: trying to say that's the right way the sex sell.
- 44:04Speaker 1: The sex. Fuck, I'm sorry, hold on, The sex have
- 44:08Speaker 1: to sell everywhere, not everywhere, you know what I mean.
- 44:11Speaker 1: Because if you're at a club, right, that's a certain
- 44:14Speaker 1: type of environment where certain type of stuff go down.
- 44:17Speaker 1: It's appropriate there. But just walking through the streets and
- 44:20Speaker 1: all that, you don't got to do that, baby.
- 44:21Speaker 2: But if you see this is the thing though, like
- 44:23Speaker 2: this is these the way women dressing and revealing ways
- 44:27Speaker 2: have become more than just something that they do. When
- 44:28Speaker 2: the club has become a part of everyday life.
- 44:31Speaker 1: Now.
- 44:31Speaker 2: Now, a girl could be at brunch and she's gonna
- 44:34Speaker 2: take a picture on her grammar and the carousel of pictures,
- 44:37Speaker 2: like you might see some cheek or you might see
- 44:39Speaker 2: some nipples.
- 44:40Speaker 1: Coming through the through the you know what I mean.
- 44:42Speaker 1: But the brunch is like the clubs, and like my
- 44:45Speaker 1: type of brunch is like the clubs. Being though it
- 44:47Speaker 1: was just like it's made it it's more than just
- 44:50Speaker 1: it's it's all over. That's the culture. Now, it's definitely
- 44:54Speaker 1: that's that's the culture. But yeah, it's a woman on
- 44:59Speaker 1: the other side of that screen. I'm like, well, I
- 45:01Speaker 1: can dress the way I dress. I'm paying for it.
- 45:03Speaker 1: Majority women, if you definitely can. I'm not telling you
- 45:06Speaker 1: whatever you cannot do. But as a man, as a man,
- 45:10Speaker 1: I want my woman to dress like covered up. You
- 45:15Speaker 1: don't got to have your your cleavelange always out and
- 45:18Speaker 1: your thong showing, and I do all that. Baby, It's
- 45:22Speaker 1: like you can wear. I ain't telling you dress like
- 45:25Speaker 1: a nun like, no disrespect to nunings, but yeah, you
- 45:30Speaker 1: can dress sexy and still look beautiful covering up.
- 45:34Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, man, Like you said, as a woman, you're
- 45:38Speaker 2: an adult you pay for your own clothes, you pay
- 45:40Speaker 2: your own bills, you pay for your own lifestyle. That's
- 45:42Speaker 2: what it means to be an adult. So you can
- 45:44Speaker 2: do whatever it is that you want to do. But
- 45:46Speaker 2: I think that me personally, any young lady that I'm
- 45:50Speaker 2: going to be involved with, I don't want you to
- 45:52Speaker 2: be out in this world and I don't want men
- 45:55Speaker 2: to be able to see details about your body that
- 46:00Speaker 2: I feel like should be explicitly I don't even know
- 46:05Speaker 2: that's the word is a word today, Yes, a word
- 46:08Speaker 2: that I don't want them to see details about your
- 46:10Speaker 2: body that I think should be specifically left to us
- 46:14Speaker 2: when we're in the prophecy of our own homes.
- 46:16Speaker 1: And on top of that to it dependent what career
- 46:18Speaker 1: you in too, so like depending on like what career
- 46:22Speaker 1: and y'all fill you in, I feel you should take
- 46:26Speaker 1: heed of how you dress. Like if I see let's say,
- 46:33Speaker 1: like the bad to say like like a doctor, lawyer
- 46:36Speaker 1: or something, and it's like you know Instagram and Facebook,
- 46:43Speaker 1: somebody gonna come across you. Can you take that person serious?
- 46:50Speaker 1: Like you see that person at pompows and this and
- 46:52Speaker 1: the third Yeah, I know that's yeah outside life, But
- 46:55Speaker 1: when I search a person that Instagram's saying come out.
- 46:58Speaker 1: I want to see somebody in suits and dressing casual.
- 47:01Speaker 1: That's the person that was like, right, maybe they're about
- 47:02Speaker 1: their business. Yeah, they're a person with you know, sean skinning,
- 47:08Speaker 1: belly button and all that.
- 47:09Speaker 3: You know.
- 47:09Speaker 1: Yeah, see through shit is like all right, do this
- 47:12Speaker 1: person want have time to go over my case? Or
- 47:14Speaker 1: is this person gonna have time to do X y Z. Yeah,
- 47:18Speaker 1: Like people think like that, don't It doesn't mean you're
- 47:21Speaker 1: not qualified for the job, but I think a person
- 47:23Speaker 1: would not take you serious pretty much. Yeah.
- 47:26Speaker 2: Also, like I think that there's just not enough emphasis
- 47:28Speaker 2: being It's just this error that's generation that we live
- 47:32Speaker 2: in in you know what I mean? Like the what
- 47:35Speaker 2: what used to be the standard in her time, it's
- 47:38Speaker 2: not the standard in this time. Yeah, like back then,
- 47:41Speaker 2: women showcase being sexy in a different kind of way,
- 47:45Speaker 2: you know. But like us as especially like black people,
- 47:48Speaker 2: a lot of it, not all of us, because I
- 47:50Speaker 2: want to be I want to be very clear by
- 47:51Speaker 2: not making that mistake, but a lot of us are
- 47:53Speaker 2: raised where like your mother or your grandmother wouldn't even
- 47:57Speaker 2: let you leave the house looking at a certain type
- 48:00Speaker 2: of way, you know what I mean, Like back in
- 48:01Speaker 2: the day, there was once a Timehicken.
- 48:02Speaker 1: Definite on it. So do you think if if it
- 48:06Speaker 1: wasn't as strict as it was back then, do you
- 48:08Speaker 1: think they would have been outside showing the skin. I
- 48:11Speaker 1: don't think that. I don't think that.
- 48:12Speaker 2: I don't think it has anything to do with that.
- 48:14Speaker 2: I think that Western culture, which is America right, I
- 48:18Speaker 2: think Western culture is a place that constantly is finding
- 48:23Speaker 2: ways to get rid.
- 48:24Speaker 1: Of morals, get rid of values, get rid of integrity.
- 48:28Speaker 1: I think it's getting rid of that.
- 48:29Speaker 2: I'm not saying that if you dress let's say provocative
- 48:33Speaker 2: as a woman, that that means that you don't have morals.
- 48:35Speaker 2: It doesn't mean I'm not saying it doesn't mean that
- 48:37Speaker 2: you have morals, values, integrity. But what I'm saying is
- 48:39Speaker 2: that this culture, through movies, through television, through magazines, through music,
- 48:44Speaker 2: it's all about sex. And I think that what we're
- 48:47Speaker 2: experiencing is the the change between women of Felicia Rashad's
- 48:52Speaker 2: air to the women now is that you're finding a
- 48:55Speaker 2: slow influence to get women to get to wear less
- 48:59Speaker 2: and less clothes, you know, And I think it comes
- 49:01Speaker 2: from specifically men. First of all, before a lot of
- 49:04Speaker 2: the time, before we get to making critical judgments about women,
- 49:09Speaker 2: we got to look at us as men first.
- 49:10Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Women we love it. Men.
- 49:13Speaker 1: Women become this way because our influence is will be
- 49:17Speaker 1: a drow this will be attract It start with us first, right,
- 49:20Speaker 1: because we buying magazines where Shorty's looking a certain type
- 49:24Speaker 1: of way. Men are watching either street men are watching
- 49:28Speaker 1: like pouring and stuff like that, right to the point
- 49:30Speaker 1: where it's like you could be in a whole relationship.
- 49:32Speaker 1: A woman might come into her house and realize that, oh,
- 49:34Speaker 1: like he's spending some of his attention he could be
- 49:36Speaker 1: spending with me, he's spending it on stuff like this.
- 49:40Speaker 1: Maybe that that's clearly what he likes.
- 49:42Speaker 2: Let me become more of that, right, and so what
- 49:45Speaker 2: I'm just like this or even like in school, Right,
- 49:47Speaker 2: it's like there's one girl in school. She get all
- 49:49Speaker 2: the attention, she got all the boys, right. The other
- 49:52Speaker 2: girl thinking like, dang, like how am I supposed to
- 49:55Speaker 2: compete with that? But I want the boys attention, not
- 49:57Speaker 2: knowing no better, right, Because she's young, she's impressionable, so
- 50:00Speaker 2: she's thinking, well, then let me show a little.
- 50:01Speaker 1: Let me let me make the short go, let me
- 50:03Speaker 1: cut up these you know what I'm saying, Let me
- 50:06Speaker 1: tie this shirt in the bag belly. But you know
- 50:08Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
- 50:09Speaker 2: You get know what I'm saying, because to women, attention
- 50:12Speaker 2: is power. Attention is power. To a woman, Looks is currency,
- 50:17Speaker 2: that's money you could buy things with that in this world.
- 50:20Speaker 2: Depending on how good you look, depending on how sex
- 50:22Speaker 2: you are, might try it. And try it with me, now,
- 50:25Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Depend on how good you look,
- 50:26Speaker 2: depending on how sex you are, that might say how
- 50:29Speaker 2: much influence you can have in this world. And so
- 50:31Speaker 2: I do think that it's more of a problem of America.
- 50:34Speaker 2: And when I think, when I say that, it's really
- 50:36Speaker 2: it's a man problem because men are not having higher standards.
- 50:39Speaker 2: Therefore women can't have higher standards.
- 50:41Speaker 1: We don't love the hard we love the looks.
- 50:43Speaker 2: I need to say that when I think that was
- 50:45Speaker 2: a bar. Men don't have higher standards, so women can't
- 50:47Speaker 2: have higher standing. And yes, it's a lot of men
- 50:49Speaker 2: in the world that's saying. You know, I prefer natural
- 50:52Speaker 2: over the BBA. You know what I'm saying. I don't
- 50:53Speaker 2: want my girl being like that. But for every one
- 50:55Speaker 2: man that's like that, there's ten who going against the program.
- 51:00Speaker 1: I love my woman covered up in natural bud. I
- 51:03Speaker 1: still love to look at.
- 51:04Speaker 2: That though, but I just think that it should be
- 51:07Speaker 2: contextual though, you know what I mean. And also every
- 51:10Speaker 2: household gonna have different rules. So if you and your girl, y'all,
- 51:12Speaker 2: if you feel comfortable with your girl being dressed a
- 51:15Speaker 2: certain type of way, and y'all going out to have
- 51:17Speaker 2: a night on the town, y'all going out to the restaurant,
- 51:20Speaker 2: y'are going out to the to the concert or whatever,
- 51:22Speaker 2: and then then let that be y'all think you know
- 51:23Speaker 2: what I mean that whatever's comfortable.
- 51:26Speaker 1: Float your boat, floats your boat. But I wouldn't want
- 51:28Speaker 1: my woman knoker outside and no see through, paying to
- 51:30Speaker 1: none of that animal I don't want. And the biggest
- 51:34Speaker 1: change your clothes, Yeah I don't want. I wouldn't even
- 51:36Speaker 1: want my daughter or my mother or my sister. I
- 51:40Speaker 1: don't want it.
- 51:41Speaker 2: And the biggest reason why I don't want that is
- 51:42Speaker 2: because I don't want another man seeing what I work
- 51:45Speaker 2: hard to have. I don't even want him seeing what
- 51:49Speaker 2: I work hard to have. Think about it, I have
- 51:51Speaker 2: to go out on dates with you. I spent a
- 51:53Speaker 2: lot of time being charming to you, being the gentleman,
- 51:56Speaker 2: spending money to you, know, because I want to be
- 51:58Speaker 2: with you, right, And then one of the perks of
- 52:00Speaker 2: being with you is we get to be intimate with
- 52:02Speaker 2: each other. There's certain intimate parts about your body and
- 52:06Speaker 2: your essence as a woman. I don't want another man
- 52:08Speaker 2: to see at all, because he didn't do half the
- 52:10Speaker 2: work I did.
- 52:10Speaker 1: To be with you or even imagine that woman.
- 52:14Speaker 2: He can imagine. That's his free will. He can imagine
- 52:15Speaker 2: what he wanted to imagine. But I don't want him
- 52:17Speaker 2: to see nothing.
- 52:18Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you see it, one man, just regular
- 52:19Speaker 1: jeans and a shirt, and that, damn your imagination ain't
- 52:23Speaker 1: gonna go off. As if you see something see through
- 52:25Speaker 1: you like god, damn right, legans on, but Pogan that
- 52:31Speaker 1: that makes your mind explore more. Right, So it's like,
- 52:35Speaker 1: just dress appropriate, that's all. Some people be coming to
- 52:38Speaker 1: graduations like that. One time.
- 52:41Speaker 2: Let me tell a story, quick story, real quick. One time,
- 52:44Speaker 2: me and this girl I was talking to who was
- 52:45Speaker 2: getting ready to go to a concert. Right, it was
- 52:47Speaker 2: gonna be an outdoor concert. And that day, first of all,
- 52:52Speaker 2: like I was. I had stated the night at her
- 52:54Speaker 2: house the night before and I was running the streets.
- 52:56Speaker 2: I was sweaty, I was nasty. I didn't have no
- 52:58Speaker 2: clean clothes on, and so all I had was like
- 53:02Speaker 2: a regular T shirt and some basketball shorts on or
- 53:04Speaker 2: something like that, real regular. I had to borrow her
- 53:06Speaker 2: clothes and because I couldn't wash my clothes at the time.
- 53:10Speaker 2: And she got dressed up and she had like a
- 53:12Speaker 2: super short skirt skirt on, you know what I mean,
- 53:14Speaker 2: And she had like she was you know, she had
- 53:16Speaker 2: like a tank top on.
- 53:17Speaker 1: She did her hair, She looked great. But the thing
- 53:19Speaker 1: is like I look like a bum and you dressed
- 53:22Speaker 1: like to the nine. And on top of that, like
- 53:25Speaker 1: her skirt was so short that if she bent over it,
- 53:28Speaker 1: if she bent over it all. And so I told her, like,
- 53:31Speaker 1: I think you should change. And she was really upset
- 53:33Speaker 1: with me.
- 53:34Speaker 2: She was really upset with me, and she thought that
- 53:36Speaker 2: I was being insecure. But my thing was like listen,
- 53:39Speaker 2: when you have fun and you get drunk, you like
- 53:41Speaker 2: to dance, you like to bend over, and we out
- 53:44Speaker 2: and we outdoors, people saying your were so when you
- 53:47Speaker 2: the minute you bend over, I know you're trying to
- 53:49Speaker 2: have fun, but you gonna bend over and you can
- 53:52Speaker 2: because you loving the song. And he gonna see your panties,
- 53:56Speaker 2: and he gonna see your ass, and he gonna see
- 53:57Speaker 2: your he gonna see your body. And why is it
- 54:01Speaker 2: so hard for women to understand why we don't want
- 54:03Speaker 2: their bodies to be revealing to the rest of the world.
- 54:06Speaker 1: She respects you, She'll definitely understand and move according to
- 54:10Speaker 1: how you feel. I'm not telling you or let me
- 54:12Speaker 1: approve your clothes before you go outside, but just know
- 54:15Speaker 1: when you leave it and going outside, you represent me.
- 54:17Speaker 1: You you got morals. You gotta respect for yourself. You
- 54:20Speaker 1: gotta respect for me. So certain things you just know,
- 54:23Speaker 1: like all this saint it ripping the gene. I don't
- 54:25Speaker 1: care about that. But some of these girls be having
- 54:28Speaker 1: in the clubs like they paying some button throng showing
- 54:31Speaker 1: and it's not I mean, it's good for the eye,
- 54:34Speaker 1: but it's not good for the goose.
- 54:37Speaker 2: Do you think that the real issue is is that
- 54:39Speaker 2: men sexualize women? Yes, exactly what it is like should
- 54:44Speaker 2: a woman be able to walk out the house without
- 54:46Speaker 2: a bra on?
- 54:47Speaker 1: Right?
- 54:47Speaker 2: Because when we see a woman without a bra We're
- 54:49Speaker 2: thinking like, oh, titties nipples right because you can see it, right,
- 54:52Speaker 2: you can see it.
- 54:53Speaker 1: That's braw.
- 54:54Speaker 2: But is that them problem or is it really a
- 54:56Speaker 2: us problem? Because if we didn't sexualize it, then it
- 54:59Speaker 2: would be okay.
- 55:00Speaker 1: Hey, it's a both of us problem.
- 55:03Speaker 2: It's a both of us problems.
- 55:04Speaker 1: Yeah, you coming outside? You normal? Look you move like that.
- 55:09Speaker 1: You know I'm gonna look. So it's like you want
- 55:10Speaker 1: the attention. I love the sight. Yeah, I see that.
- 55:15Speaker 1: I'm definitely gonna run down. You have a minute in
- 55:18Speaker 1: your time. Now you've pro you have that bra on.
- 55:22Speaker 1: It just be so okay, I'm not looking at the nipples.
- 55:26Speaker 2: I never really got a woman's attention before. When when
- 55:29Speaker 2: a nigga hit that line like hey, sweet ye, how
- 55:30Speaker 2: you doing? Can I get a minute of your time?
- 55:32Speaker 3: Hell?
- 55:33Speaker 2: Yeah, that's worked. A woman was like, yeah, you can
- 55:35Speaker 2: get a minute of my time.
- 55:36Speaker 1: Yeah I did it plenty of time. Stop lying, bro,
- 55:40Speaker 1: Well I'm dead ass serious. Hello, how you doing, beautiful?
- 55:44Speaker 1: Could I get a minute of your time?
- 55:45Speaker 2: A minute of your time?
- 55:46Speaker 1: Yeah, she gave you a minute of time, more than
- 55:48Speaker 1: a minute. I'm like, hey, I see you, univers, I
- 55:52Speaker 1: see you can I walk with you right now? You
- 55:55Speaker 1: can do whatever you want? Okay, cool, I walk, I
- 55:59Speaker 1: talked once. You make her laugh? You got the number?
- 56:02Speaker 2: You got the number. Yeah, listen, let me move on
- 56:05Speaker 2: to this next one. It's the last one.
- 56:06Speaker 1: Right.
- 56:06Speaker 2: So this is a tweet shout out to my man
- 56:10Speaker 2: Ike Slimster. I follow him on the ground. He made
- 56:13Speaker 2: a piece of content about a tweet, right, So I'm
- 56:16Speaker 2: gonna get credit to him first and we can talk
- 56:17Speaker 2: about the tweet that he pulled. He pulled a tweet
- 56:19Speaker 2: from this lady. Her name is Bombshell. I tried to
- 56:21Speaker 2: find your Twitter. Apparently it's a hundred bombshells on Twitter.
- 56:24Speaker 1: I know a bomb show too from Brooklyn.
- 56:26Speaker 2: Bomb Share with a zero. She said eighty percent. Excuse me,
- 56:32Speaker 2: she said, eighty percent of men's female friends. I failed
- 56:36Speaker 2: talking stages. I will die on this hill. I kind
- 56:40Speaker 2: of believe him, Yeah, I kind of believe it. She
- 56:45Speaker 2: said eighty percent.
- 56:46Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 56:47Speaker 1: Let's be that's a hot that's a hog, bro.
- 56:50Speaker 2: I'm not even trying to be funny, but let's not
- 56:52Speaker 2: give men more credit than they actually deserve.
- 56:55Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, but not a whole mendo.
- 56:57Speaker 2: Yeah, but please, but please.
- 57:00Speaker 1: I got friends, female friends that I didn't never try
- 57:02Speaker 1: to get. Bro.
- 57:02Speaker 2: The only men that really exercise like restraint and like
- 57:09Speaker 2: manners are man who used to get in something they're
- 57:13Speaker 2: not hungry for they're not pressed for it.
- 57:15Speaker 1: That's not a lot of men though. Yeah. But then
- 57:18Speaker 1: but then sometimes you can have a female friend. I
- 57:20Speaker 1: don't feel not wrong with like because that then that
- 57:22Speaker 1: you you been around this person, right, this is your
- 57:24Speaker 1: friend to run this person, that person could show value
- 57:28Speaker 1: of things that you like in life, that you would
- 57:30Speaker 1: love to have to hold to be with. So all
- 57:35Speaker 1: good relationships start off as friends, don't they No, Bro,
- 57:38Speaker 1: that's bullshit. Or relationship. Good relationship don't startup as friends.
- 57:41Speaker 1: They do. But like be for real. I am for real.
- 57:44Speaker 1: I don't think you are.
- 57:45Speaker 2: I'm not because you gotta be honest.
- 57:47Speaker 3: Bro.
- 57:47Speaker 1: Most of the time when a guy, when a guy
- 57:49Speaker 1: got a girl and then he say that's his friend,
- 57:52Speaker 1: he tried if he had his way the first time
- 57:54Speaker 1: he would have had he would have had an intimate
- 57:56Speaker 1: relationship with that woman. I disagree, Bro, you're bullshitting. No,
- 58:00Speaker 1: I'm that I disagree, are you bro? Think about Ben?
- 58:03Speaker 3: Not you?
- 58:04Speaker 1: I'm saying, but old men don't care. Old men don't
- 58:08Speaker 1: think like that. Though. Nobody's saying all men. She said
- 58:11Speaker 1: eighty percent. Like that's a higher percentage.
- 58:13Speaker 2: So what' should number be then?
- 58:15Speaker 1: Fifty fifty? No, I have know. I'm telling you that
- 58:19Speaker 1: I know people that friends that never even try to
- 58:22Speaker 1: cross the.
- 58:22Speaker 2: Line because they got attracted to them. Maybe.
- 58:25Speaker 1: No, my friend are very attractive. I never try to
- 58:27Speaker 1: talk to it.
- 58:28Speaker 2: Bro majority of the time when a guy want to
- 58:30Speaker 2: be friends with a girl, majority, yeah, he's a lot
- 58:34Speaker 2: of the time. I got listen, let me just say
- 58:36Speaker 2: that I got a lot of female friends that my
- 58:37Speaker 2: friends never had anything go on with you try to
- 58:41Speaker 2: talk to none of them, all.
- 58:43Speaker 1: Right, But that's me.
- 58:45Speaker 2: I know that I'm a rare case, all right, that's you.
- 58:47Speaker 2: Most men are not the rare case.
- 58:48Speaker 1: That's me.
- 58:50Speaker 2: Most men are not the rare case. Most men that
- 58:52Speaker 2: they're very I don't even blame them for it. I'm
- 58:55Speaker 2: not even saying they do nothing wrong. But what I'm saying,
- 58:57Speaker 2: I mean, you, your friend is attractive, like you what
- 59:00Speaker 2: you see why not? Things can great things can come
- 59:04Speaker 2: out of it.
- 59:04Speaker 1: Guys, A lot of.
- 59:05Speaker 2: Listen too many times when we come to relationships, we
- 59:07Speaker 2: talk about women putting men in the friend zone because
- 59:11Speaker 2: she's not attracted to him, But we don't nearly talk
- 59:14Speaker 2: about enough how the man put himself in the friend
- 59:16Speaker 2: zone as it hopes to get in a relationship. That happens.
- 59:22Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Don't bullshit, bro, don't bullshit because
- 59:25Speaker 1: you know that that happens. You know that that happens. Bro.
- 59:30Speaker 1: Come on, it happened to me once. Happens to me once,
- 59:36Speaker 1: just one good time. One time, it happened to me once.
- 59:40Speaker 2: You purposely put yourself in the friend zone to get
- 59:43Speaker 2: close and then hopes that eventually, while you close, you
- 59:46Speaker 2: can convince her that you're a good guy.
- 59:48Speaker 1: I try to try to talk to her, she shut
- 59:50Speaker 1: it down right and then okay, cool, so we could
- 59:53Speaker 1: just be friends. Then later on it became open friends,
- 1:00:01Speaker 1: and that shit you're talking about right there even went
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: to I mean, I even put a ring on. That
- 1:00:06Speaker 1: should happened a lot, But I don't feel that wrong
- 1:00:10Speaker 1: with it. I ain't saying there's nothing wrong. I ain't
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: mad at the dude for doing that. It's not a
- 1:00:13Speaker 1: higher percentage though, because I have female friends that is attracted.
- 1:00:16Speaker 2: But I never tried it, bomb Shell. I'm picking up
- 1:00:19Speaker 2: what you're putting down.
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: I agree with you. I agree I keep it in
- 1:00:21Speaker 1: the friend zone because sometimes you cross that line, you losing.
- 1:00:25Speaker 1: You're losing a friend that you will never have if
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: things don will never work out. You think most men
- 1:00:28Speaker 1: care about that if they changed their friendship. They should.
- 1:00:32Speaker 2: Most men don't care about that. Most men thinking with
- 1:00:34Speaker 2: their little head, not the big one.
- 1:00:37Speaker 1: I was not.
- 1:00:37Speaker 2: I guess I'm not that you, but most were talking
- 1:00:40Speaker 2: about most men.
- 1:00:43Speaker 3: I know.
- 1:00:45Speaker 2: You was you was in the streets, bro, I was
- 1:00:48Speaker 2: in the streets, Biggs, I know they was acting.
- 1:00:50Speaker 1: Come on, I was in the streets. They dogs not
- 1:00:54Speaker 1: all men though, No, not all men. It's only twenty percent.
- 1:00:59Speaker 1: It's not it's more than fifty. I'm gonna just tell
- 1:01:01Speaker 1: you that it's more than fifty. Sixty Fine, but it
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: ain't fifty though, it ain't eighty. Okay, but it ain't fifty. Yeah,
- 1:01:07Speaker 1: but I said, like, everybody don't think like that, Like
- 1:01:10Speaker 1: a good friend is hard to find, so you got it,
- 1:01:11Speaker 1: got to hold on to it.
- 1:01:12Speaker 2: You think men thinking that are good A good friend
- 1:01:15Speaker 2: is hard to find.
- 1:01:15Speaker 1: You think men really think like that. There's something doing.
- 1:01:18Speaker 2: They're fools, bro, most men are fools. Yeah, they don't
- 1:01:21Speaker 2: think like that. They're not thinking. That's that's the intuition
- 1:01:23Speaker 2: you talk. That's wisdom.
- 1:01:25Speaker 1: I cherish my friendships me too, a lie. I cherished them,
- 1:01:28Speaker 1: a lie. I cherish them. I give them advice and everything.
- 1:01:30Speaker 1: They give me advice and everything. But now one time
- 1:01:32Speaker 1: I think in my head like, damn I want to sleep.
- 1:01:34Speaker 2: Well yeah, me.
- 1:01:35Speaker 1: Neither what I mean?
- 1:01:36Speaker 2: But well, listen, those are the topics of the day.
- 1:01:40Speaker 3: Man.
- 1:01:42Speaker 2: Yeah, my boy, he said he flipped the hat back around.
- 1:01:45Speaker 2: When when we're done, when he means, benness, he flipped
- 1:01:48Speaker 2: the hat around. You know what I'm saying, we've done.
- 1:01:49Speaker 2: That's how you know, you flipped the hat around. But yeah,
- 1:01:51Speaker 2: those are the topics for the day man.
- 1:01:53Speaker 1: Now, women talk, let's talk more about that eighty percent.
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: You gotta really talk more on that. Yeah, like and
- 1:02:01Speaker 1: see and see where it goes. But oh yeah, by
- 1:02:04Speaker 1: the way, rest in peace to Miss White. That's my
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: sixth grade teacher. She died last week or the week before.
- 1:02:13Speaker 1: Rest of Miss White. I mean and hubb We had
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: history together. She kept me out of she kept me
- 1:02:18Speaker 1: out of trouble and when I got shot, she came
- 1:02:21Speaker 1: to the hospital visit me twice and all like, even
- 1:02:24Speaker 1: though we had a little, you know, a little altercation
- 1:02:27Speaker 1: that it stopped her from talking to me when she
- 1:02:29Speaker 1: seen me. And I mean when I got shot, she
- 1:02:32Speaker 1: came in. We wreck a side day, you know. I
- 1:02:34Speaker 1: mean we came back as one rested piece of miss
- 1:02:37Speaker 1: white though. I mean, life is short. You check up
- 1:02:40Speaker 1: on people, man, Yeah, for sure, definitely. But where can
- 1:02:42Speaker 1: they find you up? Oh?
- 1:02:44Speaker 2: Man, you can find me at Underscore Wolf Taylor Halfway podcast.
- 1:02:48Speaker 2: I call it halfway up because you never finished rising.
- 1:02:50Speaker 2: It's a self development podcast talking about all type of shit.
- 1:02:53Speaker 2: You just gonna have to go over there and check
- 1:02:54Speaker 2: it out. But yeah, man, this is great.
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: Drop one everyone.
- 1:02:58Speaker 2: Whenever I get ready to bro I ain't drop consistently
- 1:03:00Speaker 2: in a long time. It's tough.
- 1:03:02Speaker 1: They don't know this. It is a job. Is a job, man,
- 1:03:05Speaker 1: This is really a job. Is tiring. When you got
- 1:03:09Speaker 1: a flyard, fly in, get in the studio, do a
- 1:03:11Speaker 1: lot time consuming everything. A lie, it's a lot of work.
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: It'd be weighing me down. But if I don't drop,
- 1:03:18Speaker 1: y'all be looking for me. So I'm here but you know,
- 1:03:21Speaker 1: I wanted to leave y'all with There's no mountain high
- 1:03:25Speaker 1: that you can't climb, there's no ocean big enough that
- 1:03:28Speaker 1: you can't swim, there's no obstacle that you can't finish.
- 1:03:31Speaker 1: It's no goal that you're accomplishing. If you don't got
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: the motivation, lock into the blomber down see podcasts and
- 1:03:36Speaker 1: just look at me, don't step into don't step unless
- 1:03:39Speaker 1: you're gonna step, big blonde stepper peace. Ah alright, that
- 1:03:44Speaker 1: makes so much sense now, who that was cool