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Jeff Legwold joins Moser, Lombardi and Kane 5-14-26 · Jeff Legwold ESPN Broncos Reports

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  Speaker 2: Thursday by Jeff Legwald of ESPN dot com.
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  Speaker 3: Hi, Leggy morning follows.
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  Speaker 4: Hey Jeff, We're we're going to talk to you about
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  Speaker 4: football because you're brilliant at it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but did you catch the game last night?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? I snagged a little bit of that.
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  Speaker 4: Oh oh, had time out of your busy football day
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  Speaker 4: to watch a little hotey.
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  Speaker 5: I did scoot over and uh get with Nick Benito
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  Speaker 5: and Jonathan Cooper and they were doing a little event, so, uh,
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  Speaker 5: I snuck some football in. But yeah, I saw the
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  Speaker 5: comeback for sure.
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  Speaker 4: You know, you've talked a lot about hips in football, right,
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  Speaker 4: hipswivels and all this kind of stuff, scouting reports and
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  Speaker 4: DB's and how good is hipswivel? I was during the
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  Speaker 4: break showing Brett Kane the hips swivel on Brett Koulak,
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  Speaker 4: who scored the game winning goal last night, how we
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  Speaker 4: hip swivels and presents himself for the one time.
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  Speaker 1: Or the third time he did it to me today
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  Speaker 1: by the way.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but you what him swivels, Jeff in him swivels
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  Speaker 4: translated in a lot of sports, do they not?
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  Speaker 3: They do?
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  Speaker 5: Indeed, I just don't want you to hurt yourself right
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  Speaker 5: there in the studio.
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  Speaker 6: I just love the term that Moser's using here. Leggy
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  Speaker 6: presents himself. He's done it like five times. Well, you
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  Speaker 6: come across as a guy who often presents himself.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, that's perfect response, Jeff.
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  Speaker 2: I do have I do have a Broncos question for you,
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  Speaker 2: which is Week one. They're going to play Kansas City
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  Speaker 2: on Monday Night football. Now, all signs indicate that Patrick
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  Speaker 2: Mahomes is going to be healthy, not just for the
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  Speaker 2: start of the regular season, but for training camp.
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  Speaker 1: But is it any somewhat in advantage to get Mahomes.
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  Speaker 2: First week of the year off the knee injury with
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  Speaker 2: the team that has created the most pressures in the
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  Speaker 2: NFL over the last couple of years.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean a guy like him, they're not gonna
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  Speaker 5: play him unless it's okay.
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  Speaker 3: You know you're not gonna play.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you'd like to win your opener and all that,
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  Speaker 5: but you're not putting him out there. He is the
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  Speaker 5: franchise You're not going to put him out there unless
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  Speaker 5: he's really ready to go. And when a guy has
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  Speaker 5: played in that many big games, super Bowls, conference championships,
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  Speaker 5: I think he's he's going to be able to get
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  Speaker 5: his emotions and everything right to play in that game.
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  Speaker 5: If he's physically ready, I think they get the full boat,
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  Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes, And it's probably just best to prepare for
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  Speaker 5: that and be ready.
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  Speaker 6: How are these these knees becoming so quick to deal
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  Speaker 6: with that? I remember the old days where if he
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  Speaker 6: had the ac he had all of it. By the
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  Speaker 6: way he had his entire knee.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. No, it was a career ender.
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  Speaker 5: When I first started covering the league, it was a
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  Speaker 5: career ender, and the scar went from your lower society
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  Speaker 5: to your midshin. So yeah, it's like everything science, medicine,
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  Speaker 5: it's all better than whatever it takes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: No, And players are so much well versed in what's available,
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  Speaker 5: what they can do, and teams are a lot more
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  Speaker 5: willing to let you go to the surgeons you want to.
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  Speaker 5: That's a lot more prevalent now and available to them
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  Speaker 5: than it used to be.
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  Speaker 3: It used to be you had to go to the
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  Speaker 3: team's people and that was that.
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  Speaker 5: But now you can go around and you can go
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  Speaker 5: to the best you know, Bo Nicks and get surgery.
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  Speaker 3: Here.
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  Speaker 5: He went to the best foot and ankle orthopedist, you know,
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  Speaker 5: one of the two best in the country, and at
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  Speaker 5: the James Andrews Clinic in Birmingham.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I have a buddy of mine who used to work
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  Speaker 6: in television in Nebraska and the weatherman broke his leg
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  Speaker 6: and he got the legs set by a veterinarian in
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  Speaker 6: the town and it was pretty common practice. I'm not
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  Speaker 6: sure if you're from that to on Brett, but true story.
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  Speaker 6: Talk to my guy Eric Christensen from Channel four.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if Brett went to a vet growing
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  Speaker 4: up for every thing to a body part, that would
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  Speaker 4: explain a lot.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, what's the difference horses leg, cow leg,
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  Speaker 6: human leg? Just set the leg up lets the minor
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  Speaker 6: break that.
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  Speaker 3: I figure the person went to school for a long time.
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  Speaker 3: Why not.
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  Speaker 1: It's all good. I've never had rabies nor tics.
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  Speaker 6: Is there a part of you though I referenced this
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  Speaker 6: earlier in the week, not the physical issue with Patrick Malmes,
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  Speaker 6: because physically after he'll be fine. But you know, his superpowers,
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  Speaker 6: the ability to escape the pocket, even momentarily find a
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  Speaker 6: window and make a play. He got hurt escaping the pocket.
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  Speaker 6: I wonder how readily he'll do that now that he
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  Speaker 6: endured that injury.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's always any player.
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  Speaker 5: Uh, we'll talk about the trust issue in the return
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  Speaker 5: the knee is whatever was injured, is it gonna hold
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  Speaker 5: up when I really am explosive on it, you know,
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  Speaker 5: during a game. And I think that's for any player.
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  Speaker 5: But the list of people who, you know, the great
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  Speaker 5: players who continue to be great and even raised their
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  Speaker 5: game after significant injury is pretty long. I mean Tom
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  Speaker 5: Brady leads the list. You know, Peyton Manning, you know
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  Speaker 5: those great, great, great players. I think can compartmentalize things
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  Speaker 5: like that and continue to be great because that is,
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  Speaker 5: along with his escapability, probably one of his other superpowers.
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  Speaker 4: Jeff Fiden, we'll talk mini camps coming up here in
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  Speaker 4: the coming weeks and so on, And schedule comes out
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  Speaker 4: today at some point, so we'll break that down a
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  Speaker 4: little bit. But as far as the schedule is concerned,
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  Speaker 4: they've released all the international games, and they've been all
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  Speaker 4: these places before. But I am blown away. Australia, Brazil,
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  Speaker 4: three in London, France, Spain, Germany, Mexico. I guess I
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  Speaker 4: should have seen this coming, but what are we looking
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  Speaker 4: at now from the NFL? And really there must be
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  Speaker 4: an appetite in all these countries forward, otherwise why would
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  Speaker 4: they go there?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. No, they don't do anything just out of the goodwill.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, these are business decisions and inventory position you know, rights,
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  Speaker 5: media rights holders. What if you can add Europe and
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  Speaker 5: Latin America and Australia into your media rights holding bidding?
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's like ESPN.
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  Speaker 5: Has the Super Bowl this year and part of that
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  Speaker 5: is putting it on deportees and Univision. You know that
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  Speaker 5: that's all part of the equation. And eventually there'll be
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  Speaker 5: a new CBA negotiated and and these potential media rights
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  Speaker 5: will have a lot to say about the money you
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  Speaker 5: know that goes to the players and everybody else. But
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  Speaker 5: the list is only going to get longer. I've always
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  Speaker 5: told the story, but the day after Roger Goodell was
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  Speaker 5: named commissioner, the day after I had a very good
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  Speaker 5: friend of mine in the league who's been one of
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  Speaker 5: the people I've known the longest say two things would
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  Speaker 5: absolutely happen.
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  Speaker 3: In however long his tenure was.
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  Speaker 5: And it was the league will play as many games
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  Speaker 5: in as many countries as possible, and with London being
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  Speaker 5: the epicenter, and he didn't like the Pro Bowl, and
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  Speaker 5: those those two things have absolutely happened in his tenure.
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  Speaker 2: Along the way, Jeff League at ESPN dot com with
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  Speaker 2: us all conversations with Leggy, you brought you by the
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  Speaker 2: International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers IBEW Local sixty eight start
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  Speaker 2: with a job and with a career. So over the
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  Speaker 2: last couple of years, Legie, we have seen Bijon Robinson
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  Speaker 2: selected eighth overall, Jamir Gives twelve now Jeremiah Love third,
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  Speaker 2: two first round running backs this year.
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  Speaker 1: Devon A.
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  Speaker 2: Chain's got a four year, sixty eight million dollar extension
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  Speaker 2: from Miami. Are we seeing a resurgence into a more
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  Speaker 2: bell cow type of back in the NFL.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I don't know if anyone's ever going to give
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  Speaker 5: somebody three hundred carries a lot back to back to back.
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  Speaker 5: See you know, I don't know that we're going to
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  Speaker 5: see that ever again. But you're seeing the importance of
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  Speaker 5: impact players in your offense. And if that happens to
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  Speaker 5: be a running back, and you've got to be involved
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  Speaker 5: in the passing game in some fashion to really be
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  Speaker 5: the well rounded thing. But I think it's more people
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  Speaker 5: are looking at impact now and the pendulum always swings.
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  Speaker 3: You know, when they went away from the run.
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  Speaker 5: Game, it was because people decided wide and you know,
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  Speaker 5: the horizontal passing attack was was fine and you know,
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  Speaker 5: pre snap motion and all those things, and then defenses
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  Speaker 5: responded with big nickel and and nickel defenses, and they
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  Speaker 5: responded with athletic safeties and corners, and scoring has gone down.
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  Speaker 5: So now you're seeing people say, you know what, let's
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  Speaker 5: let's pound away at some of these nickel defenses with
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  Speaker 5: smaller linebackers and all of that. So it's just an
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  Speaker 5: an ebb and a flow and people want to keep uh.
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  Speaker 5: You know, finding those players is just as difficult as
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  Speaker 5: finding the you know, pre eminent wide receivers. So that's
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  Speaker 5: why you see the the value of the draft picks
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  Speaker 5: because you know how many Jeremiah loves where they're in
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  Speaker 5: the draft. There was one and you know you might
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  Speaker 5: not see another one for a few years like him
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  Speaker 5: because he he's like a wide receiver in the passing
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  Speaker 5: game and like a high end running back in the
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  Speaker 5: running game.
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  Speaker 3: That's that's a rare, rare player.
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  Speaker 6: I ran into Georgia Peyton last night at the game,
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  Speaker 6: and obviously he's excited because he's got five more years
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  Speaker 6: coming his way. Was that a I mean it was
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  Speaker 6: a four gone conclusion, right, It was no back of.
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  Speaker 5: He he wanted to stay and they want him to stay.
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  Speaker 5: Sean Payton knows, you know, look at you know, I
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  Speaker 5: think sometimes your bad decisions, you know, Randy Gregory, Russell Wilson,
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  Speaker 5: you know, we can argue when and where they made
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  Speaker 5: those decisions and why, and you know, obviously they didn't
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  Speaker 5: work out, you know, hiring Nathaniel Hackett. That wasn't all
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  Speaker 5: on George Peyton. But at the core, he finds football players.
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  Speaker 5: I mean they and they need somebody who can find
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  Speaker 5: football players. He leads a scouting department that's very respect
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  Speaker 5: that his grading system is used by you know, others
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  Speaker 5: because people like it, and they they really had to
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  Speaker 5: keep him if they want to keep this momentum, because
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  Speaker 5: I don't think you would get as good a replacement
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  Speaker 5: at this point in the league. But he wanted to stay.
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  Speaker 5: They wanted him to stay. The only wrinkle as Minnesota
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  Speaker 5: is looking for a GM and he had been there
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  Speaker 5: so long. He was one of the you know, highly
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  Speaker 5: rumored candidates in the league. But I in talking to
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  Speaker 5: him and talking to everyone in the organization, I don't
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  Speaker 5: think there was ever any danger of him leaving because
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  Speaker 5: he knows the resources they're going to have here and
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  Speaker 5: his ability to hire staff and and have whatever he
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  Speaker 5: needs as a GM at this place.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, Jeff, I guess one day you wake up and
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  Speaker 4: you realize inevitability is upon you at some point, and
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  Speaker 4: you know, the older I get, death becomes much more
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  Speaker 4: of a reality for people around you and friends and
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  Speaker 4: family and so on. And we lost. Yeah, well no,
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  Speaker 4: but I'm getting to Craig Morton. I want to try
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  Speaker 4: to do my best to honor the people who help
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  Speaker 4: build what we have here in Denver, Colorado, and I
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  Speaker 4: hope other communities would do the same. But this guy
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  Speaker 4: was very important to the Denver Broncos and really brought
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  Speaker 4: them from a laughing stock type of team from the
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  Speaker 4: AFL or the NFL days to not only respectability, but
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  Speaker 4: a team that became a force in the National Football League.
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  Speaker 4: Did you have many interactions with Craig Morton, and if so,
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  Speaker 4: can you share a few or whatever? You know, just
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  Speaker 4: the reaction from people around the organization and whatnot.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, most I think, you know, I've spoken to him,
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  Speaker 5: you know, many times over the years, and I think
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  Speaker 5: if he talked to people, even Pat Bowling, you know,
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  Speaker 5: if you talk to people as the franchise was, you know,
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  Speaker 5: it took him seventeen years to go to the playoffs
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  Speaker 5: one time, and that's a long stretch of football for fans,
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  Speaker 5: for former players, for everybody. I think Floyd Little's probably
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  Speaker 5: the first real Bronco Star franchise player, but Craig Morton
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  Speaker 5: was the guy who helped them usher in how we
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  Speaker 5: think of the Broncos now a fixture, you know, in
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  Speaker 5: the playoffs, the one of the foundational teams in the league.
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  Speaker 5: I think he helped sort of legitimize all of that
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  Speaker 5: because he had come from one of those teams.
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  Speaker 3: Before he came here.
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  Speaker 5: So and whenever I talked to players from that era,
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  Speaker 5: I don't think folks understand the physical price they paid
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  Speaker 5: to play the game that we all watch in some fashion,
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  Speaker 5: But the price they paid was beyond belief that you know,
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  Speaker 5: they didn't have the training staffs and the and the
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  Speaker 5: rehab facilities and even the field conditions players have now.
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  Speaker 5: And I you know, as as part of my Hall
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  Speaker 5: of Fame discussions with people over the years, a lot
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  Speaker 5: of people like to say, well, those guys could never
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  Speaker 5: survive athletically in today's NFL, and I would argue today's
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  Speaker 5: players would have a hard time surviving and the conditions
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  Speaker 5: that those guys played in. And I think Craig's body
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  Speaker 5: as he got older, like all those guys, I mean,
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  Speaker 5: just shake hands with Randy Gradisch are sometimes and and just.
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  Speaker 3: Look at the damage.
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  Speaker 5: But the physical price he paid to play the game
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  Speaker 5: has always stuck out to me when I when I
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  Speaker 5: spoke to.
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  Speaker 2: Him, Jeff Label the ESPN, I com last thing for you, Legy,
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  Speaker 2: was appreciate the time Sean Payton went out of his
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  Speaker 2: way to mention that he thinks Caleb Lohner looks a
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  Speaker 2: lot better than year as he's in rookie camp.
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  Speaker 4: Now.
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  Speaker 2: I know that he was a project and the guy
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  Speaker 2: only caught four balls in his entire college career, But
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  Speaker 2: what do you think in this seven deep tight end
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  Speaker 2: room right now, his chances are of being an impactful
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  Speaker 2: player in some fashion this year.
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  Speaker 5: Given I think he's the best athlete. It gives him
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  Speaker 5: a great chance. You know, I personally covered games in
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  Speaker 5: the NCAA basketball tournament that he played in, and that
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  Speaker 5: athleticism didn't go anywhere the Broncos are getting are getting that.
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  Speaker 3: I thought they.
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  Speaker 5: Should have at least as the season wore on and
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  Speaker 5: they had a roster spot or two. I thought giving
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  Speaker 5: him some red zone opportunities last year would have been
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  Speaker 5: worth a look to me, because I think athletically he
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  Speaker 5: is a rare player and he's physical. I mean he's
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  Speaker 5: technically He's got some work to do, you know when
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  Speaker 5: he's in line playing the inline spots, but he's strong enough,
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  Speaker 5: powerful enough, and he plays with an edge that you
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  Speaker 5: wouldn't think of, you know, as a multi sport athlete
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  Speaker 5: would I think he definitely has a future as a player,
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  Speaker 5: and he did. You know, I don't think Sean was exaggerating,
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  Speaker 5: even though it's no pads, and you know it's for
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  Speaker 5: those older players. They always look so much better than
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  Speaker 5: the other guys in rookie mini camp. I mean, Nathan Peterman,
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  Speaker 5: if you went on how it looked this weekend, you know,
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  Speaker 5: he'd be getting five million dollars from somebody, because I
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  Speaker 5: don't think he threw an incompletion in the time I
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  Speaker 5: was out there. So those guys are Yeah, those guys
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  Speaker 5: are always going to look good in that situation.
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  Speaker 3: But no Loner.
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  Speaker 5: I think Glowner is an NFL player, and I think
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  Speaker 5: he is going to force them to make a decision
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  Speaker 5: or to a tight end because I think I think
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  Speaker 5: Jolie is ready to go NFL tight end too. So
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  Speaker 5: that's two spots to me right there.
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  Speaker 2: Just quickly. We're having this discussion. Earlier we were talking
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  Speaker 2: about Caleb Bloher. And this does not mean the job
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  Speaker 2: is easy. It's incredibly difficult, and I'm well aware of that.
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  Speaker 2: But it feels like in any other major professional sport
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  Speaker 2: here in this country, is football the hardest to enter
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  Speaker 2: at the professional level without experience, Like you couldn't be
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  Speaker 2: a professional baseball player if you ever played baseball?
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  Speaker 3: Is the easiest?
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  Speaker 2: That's yeah, yeah, is Would you say that's somewhat accurate
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  Speaker 2: or no?
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  Speaker 3: I guess I wouldn't.
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  Speaker 5: But I've been around it my whole adult life, so
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  Speaker 5: maybe I'm too deep in the weeds.
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  Speaker 4: Put some skates on, Jack, just sick.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I've had skate I got skates in my garage.
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  Speaker 5: You ready to go but I can put the blades
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  Speaker 5: on and do some things.
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  Speaker 6: You don't think.
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  Speaker 3: I know he can.
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  Speaker 7: I was just being sarcastic, no, I I you know,
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  Speaker 7: I think sometimes football has places on the field where
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  Speaker 7: you don't touch the ball, so it offers a more
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  Speaker 7: of a presentation, more of an entry point.
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  Speaker 3: You know. I covered h.
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  Speaker 5: With the Steelers. You know, Carlton Hasselrigg had never played
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  Speaker 5: college football, he had been a wrestler, and they turned
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  Speaker 5: him into a h, you know, an all Pro guard.
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  Speaker 5: So I think the fact that there are spots on
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  Speaker 5: the field where you don't touch the ball, but it
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  Speaker 5: still takes technique and incredible strength and all of these things.
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  Speaker 5: But I think the other sports require you to touch
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  Speaker 5: the ball or the puck or you know whatever, you know,
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  Speaker 5: whatever constitute scoring. Uh, there isn't as many entry points.
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  Speaker 5: And there's just more guys on the field than football too,
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  Speaker 5: so there there are more jobs.
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Lakewell, ESPN dot Com joins us every week. I
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  Speaker 1: appreciate it.
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  Speaker 5: Let you, thank you, thanks fellas.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: Jeff Broncos.
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: I think the Broncos are gonna get some plenty of
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: funky national games, weird days, so be on the lookout.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: I love it.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Thanks you for the tidbit.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Jeff always appreciate it. That is Jeff Legbelt ESPN dot com.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Where did marky Mark Wahlberg plays collegeball?
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: I didn't play collegeball.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: He didn't play collegeball.
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: That's right,