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Speaker 2: On June twenty first, nineteen forty seven, Harold Dahl was
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patrolling around Maury Island with his fifteen year old son,
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Charles A. Cruman and his dog Sparky. They were looking
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for straight timber that had fallen off of boats. Temper
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Companies paid for Andy Logg's return to them. Around to
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that afternoon, Charles pointed.
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Speaker 1: At the sky. Six doughnut shaped.
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Speaker 2: Objects hovered about two thousand feet above the water. Harold
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cut the engine. The objects made no sound. Each was
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about one hundred feet wide with a hole in the center.
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They looked like massive metallic tires with portholes around.
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Speaker 1: The outer rim.
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Speaker 2: Five of the objects floated in a circle around the sixth,
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which was losing altitude and moving radically.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was my ex wife driving. No, because we're
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of an aut of control leaking fluid and routing vacations.
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That's his speciality.
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Speaker 1: She wasn't driving.
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Speaker 2: The craft was directly over the boat, maybe five hundred
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feet above them. Harold could see into it through the windows.
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Speaker 3: Yeay, did he see my ex wife in air?
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Speaker 6: No?
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Speaker 1: Do you want to hear about the UFOs or not?
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Speaker 3: Say sorry, I'm still Harbring a little resent in me,
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gay gellhead.
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Speaker 1: The wobble got worse.
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Speaker 2: Then there was a deep but harsh crack than the
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craft started dumping material. Thousands of strips of thin metal
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rained down like confetti. Then came the heavy stuff, white
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hot liquid metal. The hot metal hissed when it hit
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the water. Then heavy pieces slammed into the boat, some
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in the size of a baseball, but some as big
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as tires. Charles screamed when a piece burned through his shirt.
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Another hit their dog, Sparky, killing him instantly.
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Speaker 3: Oh it's too bid. They should have brought their kid.
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Speaker 1: Stop it.
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Speaker 2: Harold tried the radio, but the equipment was dead. Harold
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had seen enough. They fired up the engine and ran
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the boat onto the beach. They hid in the trees
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and watched the damaged craft rose and rejoined the formation.
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All six accelerated toward the open ocean. The encounter lasted
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about twenty minutes. Harold said maybe twenty tons of material
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had fallen from the craft. He took photographs the objects
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in flight, the debris field, the damaged boat. That night
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he met his business partner, Fred Chrisman, who doubted the story.
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The next morning, Crispin sailed to Moury Island to see
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for himself. He found the debris exactly where Harold said
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would be, covering the beach four hundreds of yards.
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Speaker 1: Some pieces were still warm.
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Speaker 2: Then he looked up one of the craft hovered silently
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for five minutes before vanishing. He had the proof, photographs,
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physical evidence, and now his own sighting.
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Speaker 1: Later that day, a stranger arrived at Doll's door.
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Speaker 2: Black suit, black hat, brand new buick with no plates,
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and somehow this man knew every detail about the event.
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Harold Dahl had just met history's first man in black.
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The stranger in black sat across from Harold at a
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diner in Tacoma. He ordered breakfast, but he never touched it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a power move, and man in blackguard is
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intimidating when you're eating blath of.
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Speaker 2: He already knew Harold's name, the names of his wife
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and son. He knew everything about the incident, the craft,
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the debris, Charles burned arm, He knew about Sparky. He
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even knew that Harold was hiding on the island watching
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the craft. The stranger told Harold to keep quiet or
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bad things might happened to him and his family. Harold
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ignored the warning. He talked to family, friends, even the press,
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and the next day the story hit the papers. Then
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the tragedy started. Charles vanished. Weeks later. He was found
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in Montana bussing tables, with no memory of who he
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was or how he got there and a few days
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later he was hit by a car. Then Harold's wife
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became suddenly ill, his business was vandalized, his family was
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constantly threatened. Harold got the message, but Fred Christman wouldn't
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stay quiet. He contacted Ray Palmer, editor of Amazing Stories
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magazine that covered the power normal UFOs and science fiction.
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Palmer asked Kenneth Arnold to investigate. Arnold was a pilot
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and deputy field marshal. He became famous for his own
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UFO siding near Mount Rainier just three days after the
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Moury Island incident. Arnold described the objects as moving like
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saucers skipping across water. Reporters called them flying saucers and
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the name stock. There was so many sightings of UFOs
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in the area during this time that it was called
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the Summer of Saucers. I remember Roswell what happened. Just
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a few weeks later, Arnold flew to Tacoma on July
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twenty ninth with the United Airlines Captain E. J.
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Speaker 1: Smith.
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Speaker 2: Smith had also seen UFOs that summer. They met Harold
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and Chrisman at the Winthrop Hotel and examined the debris.
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The medal looked ordinary, but Arnold still found the story compelling.
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Late that night, just as Kenneth Arnold and EJ. Smith
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were getting ready for bed, the full rang. The man
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on the other end of the call was Ted Morello,
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a reporter from United Press International. Morello said an anonymous
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source was feeding him every detail of their private conversations, names, times,
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even the UFO description.
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Speaker 1: Morello wanted more information.
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Speaker 7: Look, Arnold, all I'm saying is I'm going to get them.
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Speaker 4: I'd rather get it directly.
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Speaker 8: From the sword.
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Speaker 2: Captain Smith grabbed the phone, shouted a few obscenities, and
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hung up. At first they blew it off, but after
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thinking about it, they became concerned that they might be
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caught up in an espionage plot. They started to panic.
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They swept the room for bugs, but they didn't find any.
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But later it was discovered that the intercom in the
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room had been converted into a microphone.
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Speaker 1: Someone was listening which room to bet well.
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Speaker 2: When Arnold got to Tacoma, all the hotels were booked,
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but for some reason, the Winthrop had a room registered
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in his name.
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Speaker 1: Arnold assumed Ray Palmer had bought him his room. He didn't.
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Speaker 2: The next morning he called two military intelligence officers he trusted,
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Captain William Davidson and Lieutenant Frank Brown. They specialized in
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UFO cases. They arrived two days later. When Arnold told
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them about the room being bugged, they weren't worried about it.
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Speaker 1: This didn't help Kenneth Arnold's growing paranoia.
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Speaker 2: Harold refused to speak with military intelligence, but Chrismin was
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excited to. He relayed every detail of the story. The
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meeting lasted for hours, and before he left, Chrisman gave
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the officers thirty pieces of metallic debris in a corn
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flakes box.
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Speaker 3: Yeah help, Bailly, and metal doesn't get saggy milk.
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Speaker 1: The officers left after midnight with the UFO samples.
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Speaker 2: Their B twenty five flew out of mccorny Airbase at
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one thirty am, two hours later. The play went down.
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Two hours into the flight, the B twenty five's left
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engine caught fire. Davison tried to stabilize the aircraft, and
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Brown ordered the two crewmen to strap on parachutes and bail.
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They landed safely. Investigators did not. The bomber crashed near Kelso, Washington.
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Davidson and Brown died on impact. Their bodies were recovered,
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but the UFO debris was gone, and nobody knows what
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happened to the evidence, but some think it was taken
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by the FBI. The FBI was quietly following the Moray
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Island incident. They quietly followed all UFO reports. In July
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nineteen forty seven, the FBI investigated a UFO case in
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Twin Falls, Idaho, a crash. This was found and turned
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over to Special Agent Guy Banister.
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Speaker 3: Yay sected wait for Itkay.
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Speaker 2: All of this is documented at FBI files labeled Security
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Matter x SMX for short, the FBI's real X files.
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They dealt with strange cases. UFOs unexplained phenomena, things that
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they couldn't acknowledge to the public. Researchers were aware of
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the X files, but the FBI didn't discuss it. They
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weren't officially declassified until just a few weeks before I
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wrote this. The Moray Island UFO incident attracted the attention
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of FBI Director Jay Edgar Hoover.
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Speaker 1: Reporting for the Tacoma.
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Speaker 2: Times, Paul Lance released the names of the officers killed
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before the military announced them. He also reported that an
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anonymous source told in the plane was shot down with
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a twenty millimeters canon.
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Speaker 3: Oh shut it down. Well.
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Speaker 2: The official report is that the left engine had a
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mechanical failure.
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Speaker 3: Hey yeah, Kennon says to whole DoD it.
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Speaker 2: FBI agents interviewed Harold and fred and the pressure was
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getting intense. Two Air Force officers were dead and the
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press was calling it sabotage.
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Speaker 1: Harold wanted out.
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Speaker 2: After retelling his story, he finally admitted there were no UFOs.
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Freddy Christman also said it was just a joke. Jag
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Or Hoover told the agents to close the case, but
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special Agent Jack Wilcox corrected Hoover, we have the memo.
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Willcox wrote that Donald didn't admit to a hoax. He
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only said he would call it a hoax to avoid trouble.
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He'd rather be known as a liar than someone who
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saw a UFO Privately, he still said the story was true,
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and so did Chrisman. Soon after the investigation, Paul Ants,
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the reporter, died of sudden meningitis at age twenty nine.
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Doctors never found the cause. The Tacoma Times folded A
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year later. Freddy Christman was recalled to military service and
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said to Alaska Harold Dahl disappeared from Tacoma.
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Speaker 1: Someone was tying up loose ends. But Fred Christman.
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Speaker 2: Would resurface in Dallas sixteen years later when he was
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photographed near the Grassy Knoll in Daley Plaza during a
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presidential motorcade. Elic Fred Christman wasn't just the harbor patrolman
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who witnessed something strange or a puget sound. Years later,
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classified documents revealed there was much more to his story.
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Speaker 9: That don't fighter experimental.
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Speaker 10: Nobody knows what those words mean about the don't fighter experimental,
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will serve the forces of freedom, and we'll pay the
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number one airplane in the world today in a good
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deal of discussion of the long and hard court competition
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to win the contract, with very little discussion about what
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this plane will do.
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Speaker 2: Christin was a decorated fire pilot who flew two hundred
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and eleven combat missions in World War II. In nineteen
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forty two, he was recruited by the Office of Strategic
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Services the USS. After the war, the USS became the CIA,
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and Chrisman.
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Speaker 1: Went with them.
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Speaker 2: The easy papers exposed his real job career disruption agent.
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He monitored targets and fed them disinformation.
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Speaker 7: Chrismin has served many years as an active agent for
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the Old OSS and later the CIA. He is rated
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an extended agent. He is an information specialist and highly
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trained in internal security. He has worked overseas and has
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served as a regular United States Air Force officer, but
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his primary training has always been slanted in the direction
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of disruption work inside the borders of the United States.
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Speaker 2: Chrisman ran businesses that existed only on paper, no goods,
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no services, no employees. In nineteen sixty six, FBI informants
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tracked him moving one hundred thousand dollars in cash to California.
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Speaker 1: The FBI looked the other way. Then there was his
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political work.
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Speaker 2: He gathered intelligence on American politicians and submitted more than
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one thousand reports to the CIA. He fed damaging information
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to political opponents.
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Speaker 3: Yeah he stay sounds by Christopher Steele.
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Speaker 1: What's our rule?
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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, Yane, Well you don't joke about the Clinton JANUA.
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Speaker 2: By nineteen sixty three, Chrisman was part of a network
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of far right, anti communist, anti Castro CIA operatives.
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Speaker 1: But this network had a problem. John F.
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Speaker 2: Kennedy wanted to dismantle the CIA and make peace with
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the Soviet Union. To people like Chrisman, Kennedy wasn't a president,
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he was a trader. A group of men with deep
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ties to the government, military and intelligence community decided JFK
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had to go.
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Speaker 9: Any indidations say where they jump pack your bags.
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Speaker 11: Operation Lancers a goal understood, where.
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Speaker 10: They defined military civilian defense payroll and fell over a
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billion dollars.
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Speaker 9: I don't recite these for any partisan purpose.
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Speaker 10: They're the result of the American determination to be second
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to none and as a result of.
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Speaker 12: The woman.
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Speaker 4: In the love we are up to.
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Speaker 9: In the past three years, we have increased the defense
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value of the United States by over twenty percent, increase
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the program of acquisition for Flora submarine.
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Speaker 1: From Dallas, Texas.
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Speaker 4: The flash apparently official.
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Speaker 13: President Kennedy died at one them Central Standard time two
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o'clock Eastern Santar time, some thirty eight minutes ago.
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Speaker 2: New Orleans was chosen for planning. It was close to
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Latin America and Cuba, and local authorities were infamous for
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being on the take, and the city was full of
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anti communist operatives. Clay Shaw was New Orleans businessman connected
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to two CIA front companies. He provided cash and intelligence
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while maintaining his cover as a respected community leader. Shaw
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denied CIA involvement, but years later the agency admitted he
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was a valuable asset. In nineteen sixty seven, No Orleans
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DA Jim Garrison launched the only criminal investigation into JFK's murder.
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Shaw was charged and arrested. His first call after arrest,
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Fred Christman Chrispin made repeated trips to New Orleans and
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Dallas in nineteen sixty three. Some suspected he was one
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of the shooters at Die Plaza, And there was Guy Banister,
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the FBI agent who investigated UFO crashes in nineteen forty seven.
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Banister coordinated with military intelligence during the Moury Island investigation.
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Fred Christman is thought to be the anonymous source feeding
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him information. After leaving the FBI, Banister became a private
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investigator in New Orleans, but he wasn't running a typical
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PI business. Witnesses saw creates of military grade weapons moving
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through the building, and Fred Christmin's trips to New Orleans
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that year weren't vacations. Witnesses saw him at Banister's office
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multiple times, meeting with other conspirators. Some say he delivered cash,
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others say he delivered something else, documents from the Moury
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Island investigation reports about a UFO crash and debris that
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didn't match any known aircraft. Banister's office was the primary
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hub for plotting against Kennedy. Now this might sound unlikely,
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but the conspirators overlooked one.
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Speaker 1: Detail that connected them all.
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Speaker 2: Banister's detective agency was located at five point thirty one
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Lafayette Street in New Orleans, but the building sat on
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a corner. It had another entrance another address, five point
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forty four Camp Street. Now this address is important because
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it was the home base of the most famous conspirator
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of all, Lee Harvey Oswalt. This web of conspiracy ran
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from Puget Sound to New Orleans to Dallas. Sixteen years
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of covert operations spanning UFO cover ups and political assassinations,
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and the covert operators had a motive powerful enough to
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kill a president. President Kennedy engaged in secret peace talks
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with Soviet Premier Nikiti Khrushchev. They discussed cooperation, not confrontation.
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They talked about ending the Cold War. Kennedy even proposed
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a joint US Soviet space program to explore the Moon
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together out in Russian.
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Speaker 3: You would have liked the weather in Bearbank with a.
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Speaker 1: Film neet not now please.
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Speaker 2: To prove his commitment to peace, Kennedy made a gesture
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of ultimate trust. He decided to reveal America's most protected secret.
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Speaker 3: Eh, why hot dogs coming petxit king, but funds only
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coming text to eight.
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Speaker 2: No had a fault to fith sheet no which we
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leading me gab No. He wanted to declassify all UFO files.
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On November twelfth, nineteen sixty three, just ten days before
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his death, Kennedy issued two memos. The first was National
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Security Action Memorandum two seven to one.
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Speaker 14: I have initiated a program for the orderly declassification of
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all UFO intelligence files affecting national security. I have instructed
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the CIA Director to prepare a program for the sharing
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of this data with NASA, where it can be put
20:50
to use in the context of the Space and Lunar
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Expiration program.
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Speaker 2: The second memo was classified top secret. Kennedy sent it
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directly to the Director of the CIA.
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Speaker 14: Furthermore, I have requested that the CIA develop a program
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of substantive cooperation with the Soviet Union in the field
21:08
of outer space, including the development of specific technical proposals
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I have asked. The CIA worked closely with the Department
21:15
of State and other agencies as appropriate in developing this program.
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Speaker 2: To former CIA Director Alan Dulles, who Kennedy had fired
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after the Bad Pigs disaster, this wasn't diplomacy, it was treason.
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Dallas had overseen the UFO cover up since nineteen forty seven.
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He'd investigated the Morey Island incident. He knew what technology
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the government had recovered from alien craft. Kennedy was demanding
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access to the biggest secret in human history, and he
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planned to share it with America's enemy, and knew the
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Cold War might be good for humanity, but it was
21:56
bad for business. The defense industry was already furious with
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John Kennedy. He awarded the largest defense deal in history
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to General Dynamics. Everyone expected it to go to Boeing,
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the cornerstone of the military industrial complex, but because of JFK,
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Boeing and its network of powerful allies had just lost
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a fortune Es.
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Speaker 3: Basically a lot of people in Congress who put Boeing
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stack Eddy the announcement.
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Speaker 2: No doubt about that. Jim Garrison did some more digging.
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He found that Boeing used to have an employee they
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called a chaos agent. The man allegedly committed corporate espionage.
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He spread disinformation, he even killed people on behalf of
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the company. And that chaos agent was Fred Chrisman.
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Speaker 8: Chrisman is a former employee of the Boeing Company. In
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intelligence terminology, this ordinarily means that the connection still exists,
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but that the former employee has moved into an underground operation.
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Chrisman has been engaged in undercover activity for a part
22:56
of the industrial Warfare complex for years.
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Speaker 2: The cabal assembled the team cia operatives, mobsters, Cuban exiles,
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businessmen like Clay Shop, brought in locals like David Ferry
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and Guy Banister. And the man nobody talks about but
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who shows up everywhere is Fred Chrisman. The network that
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silenced Harold Dahl was activated again, but this time they
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needed someone to take the fall, someone with the perfect
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background to be blamed, and that man was Lee Harvey Oswald.
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Oswald had served as an aviation electronics operator in the Marines.
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In nineteen fifty seven, he was stationed at Naval Air
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Facility Atsugi in Japan, one of the most secret bases
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in the world, home of the U two spyplane program
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developed at Area fifty one, Oswald worked on the radar
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systems with crypto clearance. He tracked U two flights, He
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knew their flight patterns, altitudes, and capabilities, and two years
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after Oswald left Atsugi, the Soviets shot down a U
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two over Russia. The man accused of killing the present
24:00
incident had direct access to America's most sensitive technology, and
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somehow the Soviets got that same information.
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Speaker 1: The assassination of John F.
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Speaker 2: Kennedy was a coup designed to protect the biggest secret
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in human history. We were just weeks away from ending
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the Cold War and full UFO disclosure, but.
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Speaker 5: All of that ended on the twenty second November nineteen
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sixty three.
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Speaker 2: In nineteen sixty nine, a photograph surfaced three men being
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arrested behind the Grassy Knoll at Dilley Plaza minutes after
24:37
Kennedy's assassination. They're known as the Three Hobos or the
24:42
three Tramps, but these men don't look like hobos. Clean clothes,
24:46
well fed, fresh shaves. Jim Garrison believed they were intelligence
24:50
operatives part of the plot to kill jfk Possibly even
24:54
the shooters. Researchers spent decades.
24:57
Speaker 1: Trying to identify them. Some say E.
24:59
Speaker 2: Howard Hunt and f Rank Sturgists, both intelligence operatives, both
25:03
part of the Watergate breaking team, the White House Plumbers.
25:06
Woody Harrelson's father, Charles Harrelson, was a contract killer. Forensic
25:10
analysis matched him to the youngest tramp. Career criminal Chauncey.
25:14
Marvin Holt claimed he worked for the CIA on multiple operations,
25:18
the Bay of Pigs invasion, targeting Communist leaders.
25:21
Speaker 1: He said the CIA sent.
25:22
Speaker 2: Him to Dallas and look at tramp number three, the
25:26
older man with the hat that looks like Fred Christman,
25:29
but nobody knows for sure. Dallas police didn't cooperate with
25:33
early investigations. They finally released their records in nineteen eighty nine.
25:37
They identified the tramps as John Gedney, Gus Abrams, and
25:41
Harold Doyle. When spoken with a Texas accent, Harold Doyle
25:44
sounds like Harold Dall. These photographs weren't discovered for four years.
25:49
Private researcher Richard Sprague found them buried in newspaper archives.
25:53
By then, the men had vanished. Garrison subpoened Fred Cristman
25:59
on October thirty first, nineteen sixty eight. Remember when clay
26:02
Shaw was arrested, he made one phone call, not to
26:04
his lawyer, not to family, to Fred Chrisman. Crispin testified
26:08
for about an hour before the grand jury. His testimony
26:11
doesn't match reality. He said he'd never been to New
26:14
Orleans before nineteen sixty six, the records show multiple trips
26:17
in the early nineteen sixties. He said he didn't know
26:19
clay Shaw or Guy Banister. Multiple witnesses place him in
26:23
Banish's office. Chrisman did admit to knowing Thomas Beckham, a
26:28
local entertainer and anti castro activist. When pressed about their relationship,
26:32
Crispin said he was helping Beckham get into the record business.
26:36
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was gonna help him make a few hits.
26:39
Hey see what they did.
26:40
Speaker 1: Did very clever.
26:42
Speaker 2: But Beckham was also filing documents for anti castro operations
26:46
and handling money for Guy Banister's network. In nineteen sixty six,
26:50
Chrisman and Beckham incorporated seven businesses in Olympia, Washington, most
26:55
of them shell companies. Beckham testified that he visited Banister's
26:59
office all the time. Fred Chrismin said he knew nothing
27:01
about that. Garrison believed one of the bullets that hit
27:06
Kennedy came from the fence behind the grassy knoll, and
27:09
he believed Fred Christman pulled the trigger, but he couldn't
27:12
prove it.
27:13
Speaker 3: Couldn't prove it. The guys connected to CIA UFOs and
27:16
a guy who got the first phone call.
27:18
Speaker 1: What do you need to sign?
27:19
Speaker 3: Confession notarized by elicit people.
27:21
Speaker 1: That's not how the legal system works.
27:24
Speaker 3: The legal system that's what they want you to believe.
27:27
The real system involved secret handshakes LSD and making sure
27:31
your stat witness doesn't accidentally flow out of wind dep.
27:34
Speaker 2: Chrismin was dismissed and never charged. Clay Shaw was found
27:37
not guilty, but Garrison never stopped believing that for some reason,
27:42
a man who witnessed the UFO crash in nineteen forty seven,
27:45
a man with deep ties to the intelligence community, and
27:48
a man who was openly and loudly extremely far right
27:51
and anti communist, was on the grassy knoll at Dili
27:54
Plaza on November twenty second, nineteen sixty three. This isn't
28:10
supposed to be a JFK video. I've tried to stick
28:12
with Fred Christman and the Moray Island UFO. If you
28:15
want a deeper dive on JFK, let me know there's
28:17
plenty there. The claim is that the assassination of JFK
28:21
wasn't just political, it was an operation to protect the
28:24
biggest secret in human history. The discovery and reverse engineering
28:28
of UFOs and rabbit holes don't get much deeper than this.
28:31
Speaker 1: So what's true?
28:33
Speaker 2: Well sixty years later, some facts are documented, others remain speculation.
28:38
The debris allegedly on the B twenty five disappeared. Skeptics
28:42
say the metallic rocks were industrial slag from a nearby
28:45
smelting company.
28:46
Speaker 3: Pieces a UFO is industrial slag, and it's like coote
28:50
a saba shae egg at chicken rack.
28:55
Speaker 2: Skeptics also point out that after Kenneth Arnold saw his
28:58
flying saucers near Mount Rainier, UFO sidings exploded across the country.
29:03
Now Dawlind Crismin might have been lying for money trying
29:06
to get their story published. Chrismin did have a letter
29:09
published in Harper's Magazine in nineteen forty six, where he
29:12
described battling creatures in an underground cave. He published a
29:15
second letter in Amazing Stories in May nineteen forty seven,
29:18
two months before the Morey Island incident. Fred Christmin does
29:23
have connections to the JFK assassination, but the evidence is circumstantial.
29:27
Jim Garrison was criticized for making connections without hard evidence,
29:31
relying mostly on witness statements. The House Select Committee on
29:34
Assassinations said there was likely a conspiracy. They never confirmed
29:39
Chrismin's involvement, and the photographed allegedly showing him near Dealey
29:42
Plaza is grainy. It looks like Chrismin to me, but
29:45
it's hard to be sure. To this day, nobody knows
29:48
for sure or who they are. The plane crash happened,
29:51
that's documented, but the military said it had nothing to
29:54
do with the Morey Island investigation.
29:56
Speaker 3: Oh A military said, so we'll pack you up everyone,
30:00
and the military navalized case closed.
30:09
Speaker 2: Lee Harvey Oswald did work on the YouTube program at
30:11
Atsugi Base in Japan, but thousands of people did. Thousands
30:15
of people had clearance for classified programs. It doesn't prove
30:18
that he was part of a UFO cover up, but
30:20
some facts won't go away. In nineteen fifty nine, Lee
30:24
Harvey Oswald defected to the Soviet Union. He renounced the
30:26
citizenship and said he provided military secrets, which we know
30:30
he had. He found a job, he met his future wife, Marina.
30:33
Then in nineteen sixty one he came back. And typically
30:37
when a defector wants to return from the Soviet Union,
30:40
they face intense scrutiny. They have to negotiate with both governments.
30:44
It's a long, difficult process. Permission isn't always granted. But
30:47
Lee Harvey Oswald came back with no problem. The US
30:50
State Department even loaned him the money. They provided his
30:53
wife with a visa.
30:54
Speaker 3: Yeah, the old secret agent welcome home package comes through
30:58
it a loan, a wife in an alibi. Nice work
31:01
if you can get it.
31:02
Speaker 1: Oh there's more. Damia Lazis.
31:03
Speaker 2: Special Agent Jack Willcox's memo to Jaeggar Hoover directly contradicts
31:07
the official narrative. Remember, will Cox reported that Doll didn't
31:11
actually admit to a hoax. He said Dahl would call
31:13
it a hoax to avoid trouble, but privately insisted the
31:16
story was true, and this is in the classified FBI files.
31:20
Crispin also said the UFO sighting was real. He said
31:23
so in nineteen sixty seven to UFO researcher Gary Leslie.
31:33
Speaker 11: I will tell you this much, that Maury Island incident
31:36
was no hoax. The FBI and the Air Force no,
31:39
it was no hoax. The pieces of the UFO that
31:41
are still in our possession have proven that.
31:44
Speaker 4: It was no hoax.
31:46
Speaker 11: Most of you play games, make a silly hobby out
31:48
of a matter that should scare you to death. I
31:50
have little patience with most of your organizations.
31:54
Speaker 2: Fred Crispin's CAIA involvement is confirmed in the Easy Papers.
31:58
He was a career disruption agent horandius information operations inside
32:02
the United States. Guy Bannister investigated the Moray Island UFO
32:06
case for the FBI. He operated out of five point
32:09
forty four Camp Street in New Orleans. Lee Harvey Oswald
32:12
worked at that same address. This connection is documented. Kennedy's
32:16
November twelfth, nineteen sixty three memos are real. He requested
32:20
cooperation with the Soviet Union on space exploration. He demanded
32:24
access to UFO files ten days before his assassination. Alan Dulles,
32:28
who Kennedy fired, was appointed to the Warren Commission investigating
32:32
his debt, and nobody can explain why. Alan Dulles, who despised.
32:35
The president was put on that commission, and publicly, Attorney
32:39
General Robert Kennedy accepted the Warren Commission report, but according
32:42
to his son RFK Junior, he privately called it a
32:45
shoddy piece of craftsmanship.
32:47
Speaker 3: Shaddy and accident south, the shatty craftsman.
32:50
Speaker 4: Everywhere there's a sixty year cutter up.
33:04
Speaker 11: You know.
33:04
Speaker 15: The Warrant Commission was run by Alan Dulles, who was
33:08
ahead of the CIA, who my uncle fired. Congress found that, Yeah,
33:14
it was a plot, it was a conspiracy. There were
33:18
multiple people in Oh, it was my father's first Innsday
33:23
that the agency had killed his brother.
33:26
Speaker 1: And we all know what happened to RFK Senior.
33:30
Speaker 4: Senator Robert Francis Kennedy.
33:34
Speaker 3: Side at am today.
33:40
Speaker 4: Two sixth, nineteen sixty eight.
33:44
Speaker 2: The Warrant Commission's investigation was deliberately incomplete. The CIA withheld
33:49
thousands of documents, they're holding them still. Witnesses were ignored,
33:53
evidence was suppressed. Declassified files now revealed the CIA actively
33:58
obstructed the investigation. The cover up is no longer theory.
34:01
It's documented fact. Kennedy awarded a major defense contract to
34:05
General Dynamics instead of Boeing. This cost the military industrial
34:09
complex billions. Fred Christman worked for Boeing. The biggest mystery
34:13
isn't whether UFOs dropped debris over puge sound. It's the
34:17
connections that followed. The same people who investigated UFO cases
34:21
in nineteen forty seven show up in the jfk assassination
34:24
sixteen years later, Guy Banister, Fred Chrisman, Alan Dulles, same addresses,
34:30
same witness intimidation, same classified operations. Now, maybe Harold all
34:35
made up the UFO story. Maybe the plane crash was
34:37
mechanical failure, and maybe every connection is a coincidence.
34:41
Speaker 3: No such thing is a coincidence. That's like finding out
34:44
your pactologist and you dident this shared office. Some stints
34:47
and it take the fluoride. Kennedy did demand UFO disclosure.
34:52
He planned to share classified information with the Soviet Union.
34:55
Two years earlier, Kennedy laid out his vision for space.
34:58
Speaker 16: Now it is timed take longest strives, Time for a
35:02
great new American enterprise, Time for this nation to take
35:07
a clearly leading role in space achievement, which in many
35:12
ways may hold the key to our future on Earth.
35:20
Speaker 2: Kennedy threatened the military industrial complex, and about the CIA,
35:23
he said, I will splinter the CIA into a thousand
35:26
pieces and scatter it to the winds.
35:28
Speaker 1: Ten days after demanding access to the UFO files, he
35:31
was dead.
35:32
Speaker 2: The UFO might have been a hoax, but the conspiracy
35:34
it exposed is real. The cover up didn't end in
35:37
nineteen sixty three. The same agencies that probably killed Kennedy
35:42
still operate with the same secrecy. The same classification systems
35:46
still hide the truth. The CIA says they're protecting America
35:49
from its enemies, but the more you look, the more
35:51
you realize they're protecting themselves. America's most dangerous enemy isn't
35:56
Russia or China or Iran, it's the CIA.
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Speaker 6: Unter happening your journey.
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