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Solocast: 5 Lessons from 25 Years of Marriage · Lean Out Podcast

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  Welcome to the lean out podcast.
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  I'm your host, Dr.
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  Don baker.
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  Are you looking for a new approach to finding authentic and sustainable work-life balance?
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  Let's get to the show.
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  Hello?
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  Hello.
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  Thanks for being here.
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  So recently we got baby chicks on our homestead.
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  24 to be exact.
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  And we had been raising them on our greenhouse in a little brooding pen.
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  We're about to transition them to their outside coop and outdoor mobile chicken setup.
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  I'm finally feeling like a legit homesteader.
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  I have to tell you, it's kind of funny.
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  We really felt like posers for a couple of years.
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  And now that we've got a skid steer, multiple trailers, a UTV and chickens.
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  What's up next?
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  I don't know.
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  Back to the chickens.
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  They're almost full grown now and it's been.
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  Really fun to experience and nurture them into adulthood.
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  This leads me to what I want to talk about today.
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  We all take care of things.
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  We nurture our children as they grow our pets, other animals, our gardens.
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  And our intimate relationships are the same.
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  They require work and nurturing to see growth and benefits.
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  There's a great quote by Nevada.
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  it says a fit body, a calm mind, a house full of love.
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  These things cannot be bought.
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  They must be earned.
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  This past week, my husband and I celebrated our 25th anniversary.
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  That's a long time to be married.
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  The modern statistics still say roughly half of first marriages end in divorce and it's more for second marriages.
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  So I feel like we're winning in some way.
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  I'm so grateful for my marriage, but I will say it is not easy.
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  Just like other things in life, it takes work, but it's so worth it.
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  Today.
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  I'd like to share five concepts that I think have helped us weather, the storms of along.
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  Relationship and get to the point where we are today.
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  Number one.
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  Except that your relationship does not have to look like others.
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  Uh, not like ones in the movies, not those of your parents, your siblings, or your friends.
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  In the early part of our relationship and our marriage.
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  I had a hard time with this.
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  When we started dating, we were 19 and I had a very media shaped idea in my head of what a good relationship look like.
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  I had also rarely seen my parents fight.
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  Later.
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  I figured they must have hid their fights from us, but at the time I thought a good relationship meant no arguments and the man buying lots of guests for.
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  For the women, et cetera.
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  Reality set in when my then boyfriend and I frequently had disagreements.
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  Over time.
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  We learned to argue in a healthy way, but part of our longevity was me letting go of this idea that having a fight means our relationship is doomed.
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  Another thing is we don't tend to go on traditional dates.
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  We did do it a lot in the beginning of our relationship and in the beginning of our marriage, but now it really doesn't fit into our lifestyle.
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  But for a while, it would bug me.
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  And I would say we need to go on a date and then I'd remember that we spend quite a bit more time together than the average couple, because we both have a little bit more freedom in our schedules.
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  We spent years together climbing, traveling the world, snowboarding, hiking.
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  Going to the gym and doing other activities together.
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  So why do those not count as dates spending quality time?
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  Doesn't have to mean getting dressed up and going out to dinner.
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  If that's what you like to spend your time doing?
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  That is fine.
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  But if you like doing other activities together, your dates can look different.
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  Number two, don't keep score.
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  Uh, marriage is not a 50 50 arrangement.
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  It's so much more dynamic than that.
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  Early on in our relationship as a young feminist woman, I had an idea that things were supposed to be 50, 50.
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  But over time I realized this is not at all realistic and it costs me hours of my life living in resentment.
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  They say resentment is like taking a poison and expecting the other person to die.
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  What I've realized is that the 50 50 thing is really more like 100, 100.
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  Sometimes one partner is going to be doing something intense, like going through school or a training while the other person is not.
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  And during that time, maybe the other person steps up and does more of the household chores.
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  And then it flips later.
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  This happened for us during my residency, things shifted for me, always cooking dinner to him, making dinners for me.
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  If you eat, you're mindful that you have your own personal goals and tasks and you have your household goals and tasks.
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  Then you give your all as needed.
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  Since we've had a kid and also a family where one parent MI.
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  Is gone sometimes for days at a time for work.
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  Our division of labor is very fluid.
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  When I'm at home, I do a lot more of the homeschooling.
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  Daily parenting household chores in the like, And that's all on him when I'm gone.
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  So accepting the 100, 100 idea is really key for not having resentment and for having longevity in your marriage.
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  Number three.
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  Learn your partner's love language.
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  I have to give a plug for this book and online assessment.
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  I've used this in talks on self knowledge and for coaching clients, but I've really gained a lot of insight out of it personally, too.
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  If you don't know what I'm talking about here, go to the link in the show notes and take the quiz.
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  It's fast, free and easy.
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  The five love languages are words of affirmation.
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  Quality time.
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  Uh, physical touch, acts of service and giving or receiving gifts.
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  I'm a words of affirmation person.
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  It's very clear.
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  It always has been.
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  I've always loved writing and words.
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  I love getting and giving cards.
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  I had pen pals and I even wrote love letters to a boyfriend in high school.
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  Of course, we are biased to think that our love language is everyone else's love language, but this is certainly not the case.
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  And when my husband and I took the quiz, I had a major revelation when his ended up being acts of service.
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  All of a sudden some things that baffled me.
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  Made sense.
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  My husband had always be grudgingly given me cards, but didn't really care about them.
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  But he would also ask me to do things like get him a drink or bring him something or massage his neck or back.
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  And I'd be like, get your own damn drink.
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  Then I realized that that is his love language.
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  So I started trying to do the little things more often without complaining.
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  When I was very sick in the hospital after brain surgery, during my residency.
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  Something I speak about in the beginning of my book, lean out.
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  I remember him coming and going from the hospital to make sure things were okay at home.
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  Like is the lawn okay?
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  Is the dog okay?
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  Are the packages picked up off the porch, et cetera?
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  And my parents were there and they were like, what is he doing?
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  Why is he not sitting here holding your hand?
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  But I knew why I knew he was expressing his love.
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  In his love language.
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  There may be crucial moments in your life when this could really help you out.
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  Kind of like the one I just described.
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  So I encourage everyone to take the quiz and learn their, and their partner's love language.
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  Number four.
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  In order to be a good partner to someone else.
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  You need to know deeply that you are worthy of love.
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  You are worthy of love from yourself and from your partner.
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  For a long time, I had insecurities based out of a lack of self-love.
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  When you don't fully love yourself and accept yourself.
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  You kind of have this background feeling like when is this person going to screw me over?
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  It's sad to say, but it's true.
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  I also would be scared to talk to him about anything that I thought he might react negatively to.
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  It took me having a major health crisis and staring my own mortality in the face to finally gain my own.
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  Self-compassion.
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  When you do gain self-compassion, you will also gain competence to communicate with your partner, to have the difficult conversations.
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  Please don't wait until something bad happens to you.
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  Like it did me.
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  To love yourself.
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  If you don't love yourself now, do some inner work on self-compassion.
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  I will link some resources for you in the show notes.
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  And lastly, number five.
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  Similar to number four, you must do the work on yourself.
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  If you want to be a good partner.
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  Expecting another person to meet your needs will at times leave you with unmet expectations and that's a recipe for resentment.
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  You have no control over another person's thoughts, feelings, and actions, but you do have that for yourself.
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  Over the 25 plus years I have been with my husband.
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  I have definitely been a work in progress.
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  And luckily he's stuck with me through all my insecurities and learning moments.
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  It's only been in the last 10 to 15 years with a big inflection point around the time that I got very sick.
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  That I've really done a lot of work on myself.
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  Through consuming personal development resources like books and podcasts.
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  Practicing mindfulness regularly spending time by myself in stillness or reflection.
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  And coaching.
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  Both self coaching and coaching with others.
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  It has caused a noticeable shift to me and to him.
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  It takes a lot of time and regular practice, but it can happen.
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  So there you have it.
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  The five concepts that I think have really contributed to the longevity of my marriage.
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  And note that they're all things that you have control over.
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  You can work on them.
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  They do not require another person to do anything.
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  Except maybe take the 10 minute love language quiz.
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  I hope you found this helpful today.
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  Let me know what you think.
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  If you have anything to add, or if you agree or disagree with any of my points, I'd love to know.
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