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College Hockey Inc.'s Sadie Lundquist on the Ice Breaker Tournament · The PodKaz: USCHO Women's Hockey

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  Speaker 1: Usccho dot com. Hi, and welcome to the podcast from
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  Speaker 1: uscho dot com. I'm Todd Malusky here with Nicole Hasey.
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  Speaker 1: Nicole was just saying off the air, this was a
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  Speaker 1: weird weekend. Can you expound on that, Nicole, because I
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  Speaker 1: think we can look at some of the scores and
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  Speaker 1: realize what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 2: But what do you mean there?
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  Speaker 3: I mean number six Cornell opened up with a zero
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  Speaker 3: zero tie and a loss to unranked Mercyhurst. I mean
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  Speaker 3: Saint Cloud's State went down against Ohio State, came back,
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  Speaker 3: tied the game in the final minute and won the
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  Speaker 3: shootout which Ohio State didn't score at all. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: Wisconsin eat Minnesota five zero on Friday, went down three
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  Speaker 3: to nothing at the midpoint of the game on Saturday
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  Speaker 3: and came back in one four three. It just it
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  Speaker 3: was a lot of It was a wild and wacky weekend.
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  Speaker 3: If you were watching in some of these games and
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  Speaker 3: uh you holy Cross the Northeastern going to overtime or
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  Speaker 3: going to shoot out, just games that if you've been
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  Speaker 3: watching for a few years, you kind of feel like
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  Speaker 3: you would know the outcome. You haven't expected outcome. Those
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  Speaker 3: outcomes aren't happening. And so you know, I know that
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  Speaker 3: there are people that have are you know, been fans
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  Speaker 3: for a few years that say, like, parody doesn't matter
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  Speaker 3: if we end up with the same couple teams winning
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  Speaker 3: championships and the same teams you know in the Frozen
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  Speaker 3: four year after year. But to me, these sorts of
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  Speaker 3: outcomes are the things that show that things are progressing
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  Speaker 3: and changing. And you know, I kind of ranted about
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  Speaker 3: it last week in terms of like you have to
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  Speaker 3: get one of those big wins so a recruit can
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  Speaker 3: see what's possible. And then when you get one big
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  Speaker 3: name recruit that you know, it's it's step by step
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  Speaker 3: and and seeing teams you know that that are that
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  Speaker 3: would not have come back and made the gotten these wins.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we talked a lot about Saint Cloud's state
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  Speaker 3: last year because their coach, Brettadalski talked like, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: for me, unsounded like he was ready, You're ready to quit,
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  Speaker 3: give up and quit and move to the North pull
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  Speaker 3: just being frustrated with how hard it is to compete
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  Speaker 3: against Minnesota and UMD in Wisconsin and Ohio state week
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  Speaker 3: after week for that same team from a few months
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  Speaker 3: ago to come and get that that, you know, shootout
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  Speaker 3: win against Ohio State, like in just a matter of
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  Speaker 3: a few months. To me, it's just it's what makes
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  Speaker 3: us exciting. It makes it weird, it makes it fun,
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  Speaker 3: and uh, you know, imagine what that win, what that
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  Speaker 3: shootout win meant for the Huskies, you know, to pick
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  Speaker 3: on that particular thread. So, yeah, it was weird. Is
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  Speaker 3: the best I can come up with because I never
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  Speaker 3: knew what was going to happen in any game my
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  Speaker 3: head on at any given moment.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you would.
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  Speaker 1: I think you mentioned there that Brandandowski, uh was you know,
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  Speaker 1: referring to the stretch that they had to play. I
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  Speaker 1: think it was the four teams ahead of them and
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  Speaker 1: then we stitch in four straight weeks or if not
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  Speaker 1: if four straight series, I don't know if it was
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  Speaker 1: all consecutive weeks. But he and he mentioned it again
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  Speaker 1: before this season on the Coaches Call that that's a
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  Speaker 1: a tough thing to go through when you when you
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  Speaker 1: know you're improving and you know you're in games, but
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  Speaker 1: you just don't see the results and a three to
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  Speaker 1: three tie may not look like the result. But like
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  Speaker 1: you mentioned, the shootout win is.
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  Speaker 3: The depending national champions the team that's got resources State
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  Speaker 3: can only dream of.
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  Speaker 1: It's not just the extra point in this case, it's
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  Speaker 1: that we leave the ice after celebrating an overtime result
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  Speaker 1: and essentially, and I think that's the maybe that's the step,
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  Speaker 1: you know, that that they need to take, is hey,
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  Speaker 1: you know, build these together, string these together. Whether it's
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  Speaker 1: maybe it's not sweeping someone, maybe it's not you know,
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  Speaker 1: reeling off six wins in a row, but maybe it's
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  Speaker 1: getting the result.
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  Speaker 2: Of feel good at the end of the weekend.
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  Speaker 1: And propel you through three more weeks, you know, or
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  Speaker 1: three more really tough series and get something just the.
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  Speaker 3: Mental yeah boost that that's got to give.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that I think. Yeah, I think too.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's I mean, we talked about this in the previews, right,
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  Speaker 3: like because of the sort of the stranglehold that certain
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  Speaker 3: schools have had at the top of certain conferences, Like
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  Speaker 3: you can improve and still like if you're in the
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  Speaker 3: middle of the ECAC or the WHA in particular, like
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  Speaker 3: you can improve significantly and end up in the exact
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  Speaker 3: same finishing spot, like and we're still fifth or sixth
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  Speaker 3: or whatever it is. And so like that can feel
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  Speaker 3: I mean, for me. What was telling about it was that,
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  Speaker 3: like it wasn't a student, which like we're talking twenty
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  Speaker 3: something year old collegiate students that are the one athlete,
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  Speaker 3: student athletes all that stuff. It's not them expressing like
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  Speaker 3: difficulty with the mental side of it. It was like their coach,
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  Speaker 3: who has been around for who's gone through all of this.
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  Speaker 3: And so like for me, when when it was Brian
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  Speaker 3: saying like, God, this is just mentally impossible, I was thinking, goodness,
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  Speaker 3: if that's how he feels, imagine where the student athletes, right,
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  Speaker 3: And like you knew that he got to that level
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  Speaker 3: because he had seen it in his student athletes. So
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  Speaker 3: all of that goes into me saying that, like what
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  Speaker 3: a big deal for Saint Cloud State to have that.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they had a they had the game tie
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  Speaker 3: going late into the third period. You know, they gave
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  Speaker 3: up a goal with under three minutes to go on
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  Speaker 3: the power play, like past Saint Cloud teams, past, you know,
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  Speaker 3: teams playing against you know, the number two team in
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  Speaker 3: the country, the defending national champions. You give up a
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  Speaker 3: goal with under three minutes to go, like that's the
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  Speaker 3: end of the game, Like you are mentally just done.
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  Speaker 3: So the fact that Saint Cloud wasn't that they went
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  Speaker 3: out and scored a goal of their own divorce over time,
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  Speaker 3: that they relied on their ridiculously good freshman goalie Amelia
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  Speaker 3: Kurico to absolutely stand on her head and she stopped
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  Speaker 3: breakaways and.
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  Speaker 4: She was just so so good.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, it's not that she had to stand
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  Speaker 3: on her head, like they weren't outplayed and it was
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  Speaker 3: because of her. But like you're facing you're facing Ohio State,
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  Speaker 3: like your goalie has to play well. But yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: think it's all of those things, right, like that they
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  Speaker 3: came back after having given up lake goal, that they
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  Speaker 3: didn't give up a goal in overtime, and then that
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  Speaker 3: they didn't give up the shootout. So yeah, and I
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  Speaker 3: think those are the things that, like for the players
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  Speaker 3: on the hardest training day or when you know you're
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  Speaker 3: absolutely ragged heading into overtime in a game later in
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  Speaker 3: the year, like those are the reserves that you pull
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  Speaker 3: on to be like, this is why we do all that,
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  Speaker 3: Like this is what we're capable of. And I think
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  Speaker 3: knowing that and like being like I'm that mentally tough
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  Speaker 3: and good or whatever, it is very different than having
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  Speaker 3: this actual experience drawn be like, yes, I am, we
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  Speaker 3: are that good, Yes we can do this.
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  Speaker 1: You had mentioned when going through the things the last
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  Speaker 1: weekend the Mercyhurst tie and win against Cornell, And I
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  Speaker 1: don't know how much to read in that for Cornell
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  Speaker 1: because games of the season IVY schools have start, you know,
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  Speaker 1: three four weeks delayed compared to the others, So it's
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  Speaker 1: you know, when you're playing team, you're playing your first
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  Speaker 1: games against teams that have played, you know, for.
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  Speaker 2: Three weeks already.
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  Speaker 1: That's a disadvantage, but it's a disadvantage of the ivy's
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  Speaker 1: own making. So like that's where I get I get torn.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, well, you know.
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  Speaker 3: And it's something to do with every year, so like
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  Speaker 3: it's not new right, and Cornell's not full of rookies,
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  Speaker 3: so their player should have been. I have to say
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  Speaker 3: I'm probably bringing bagage to this in which I feel
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  Speaker 3: like Cornell has maybe not lived up to their potential
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  Speaker 3: for a few years in a row, just like looking
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  Speaker 3: at the individual talent and like knowing what they had
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  Speaker 3: last year and that they didn't Obviously losing is Daniel
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  Speaker 3: the reading Petty Cavs winner is a huge deal. But
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  Speaker 3: like most of their roster returned, and so yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: think I mean, looking at their numbers of great, we
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  Speaker 3: all had high expectations and so it's yeah, it's hard
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  Speaker 3: to be mad about those opening games, but it's also like,
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  Speaker 3: you guys gotta do better than that, So you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's a it's really hard, I mean to be fair.
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  Speaker 3: Mercy Hurst, you know, has gone like Mercyhurst went through
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  Speaker 3: the Gulmit right, like they played Colgate, Saint Cloud State,
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  Speaker 3: Saint Lawrence and then Cornell. Uh and you know they
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  Speaker 3: played Ohio State on Tuesday, Like mercy Hurst is as
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  Speaker 3: battle test it is any team could be at the
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  Speaker 3: part of the season, so like they're not. They're not
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  Speaker 3: an easy team. But also Cornell needs to score them
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  Speaker 3: more than one goal in a weekend series. So maybe
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  Speaker 3: it's less the results than it is that like they can't.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it was a zero zero tie and a
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  Speaker 3: two one loss. I don't know, it's I always feel
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  Speaker 3: bad saying sort of mean things about anybody, but yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that that to me is just a massive missed opportunity
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  Speaker 3: for them. I think they had to come out strong
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  Speaker 3: because they are starting behind the eight ball for the
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  Speaker 3: other teams. That are atop that conference, that are looking
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  Speaker 3: to win that conference in PECC champions and b you know,
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  Speaker 3: a high seed going into the tournament, and like this
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  Speaker 3: just feels like a big, you know, sad trump boner.
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  Speaker 1: And then another result that stood out to me Saturday
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  Speaker 1: was Harvard beating uk won nothing. And so we're talking about,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Okay, here's a team that's just like Cornell,
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  Speaker 1: playing its first games first, you know, regular season games,
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  Speaker 1: and they come out and get one nothing win.
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  Speaker 3: And so goodness and all the other KF I'd forgotten
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  Speaker 3: about that one. Yes, that was a great.
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  Speaker 2: Game, that one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm again not sure how much to read into
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  Speaker 1: that one. Again on the other side of this now
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  Speaker 1: for for Harvard, so.
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  Speaker 3: No, but we also had a whole conversation last week
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  Speaker 3: about Hockey East teams needed to play consistency, consistently and
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  Speaker 3: win the games that they should be winning, and Yukon
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  Speaker 3: needs to be winning that game if they're gonna be
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  Speaker 3: a serious contender on a national national stage. They can't
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  Speaker 3: lose those non conference games to teams that aren't even ranked,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Like that's just for I mean, a Harvard
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  Speaker 3: team that was quite frankly not very good last year.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, it's just a I could talk around in circles, right,
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  Speaker 3: That's why I said it was just a weird and
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  Speaker 3: and and kind of you know, team chaos one this weekend,
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  Speaker 3: I was, I loved it, but it was very much
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  Speaker 3: like I so many I know you like, we don't
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  Speaker 3: I don't talk. We won't talk to hunt about like
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  Speaker 3: voting for poles. But for me, that's the thing that
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  Speaker 3: makes me sit and think, like, Okay, this team lost,
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  Speaker 3: but all the teams below them lost, and so if
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  Speaker 3: I want to move them down, I have to move out.
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  Speaker 3: And so that really gets me thinking of the comparativeness
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  Speaker 3: of it. So it's less about the pole itself and
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  Speaker 3: more looking at like, man, I don't like, Okay, so
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  Speaker 3: Ohio State, you know lost the picking like should they
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  Speaker 3: move down? But the number three team was Minnesota, and
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  Speaker 3: so you know the number four team, you know, so
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  Speaker 3: you're just kind of corn or clerks and didn't play
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  Speaker 3: and umd, you know, you're just getting in these weird situations.
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  Speaker 3: So it really makes me think about how the team's
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  Speaker 3: compared to each other. So it's less about voting and
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  Speaker 3: more about like, you know, it's not so clear cut
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  Speaker 3: right now, like we're team should be and how they
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  Speaker 3: compare to each other.
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  Speaker 2: Help.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's wrap up this segment talking about Wisconsin at Minnesota.
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  Speaker 1: You mentioned five nothing Badgers win on Friday, which is
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  Speaker 1: their ties for their biggest ever win in a road
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  Speaker 1: game against the Gophers, and then they fall behind three
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  Speaker 1: nothing like you said, midway through the second period and
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  Speaker 1: hadn't beaten the Gophers went down three by three goals
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  Speaker 1: or more since twenty eleven, I want to say. And
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  Speaker 1: they got their power play got him going. They score
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  Speaker 1: a power play goal, They get up power play right
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the second period, and come out
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  Speaker 1: and score on the power play in the third, get
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  Speaker 1: a time goal in Casey O'Brien gets them ahead with
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  Speaker 1: a few minutes ago.
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  Speaker 2: That's a team that I mean, it's.
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  Speaker 1: They come into waves and it's it's all lines are
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  Speaker 1: clicking right now for them. Because the fourth line, which
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  Speaker 1: is three freshmen, all contributed a goal in their first
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  Speaker 1: board battle series, which is.
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  Speaker 2: A big thing for them.
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  Speaker 1: But also that one of them was a time goal
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  Speaker 1: by Hannah Halverson to make it three to three on
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  Speaker 1: Saturday in the third period. So Mark Johnson had enough
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  Speaker 1: trust in his freshmen to put them out in a
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  Speaker 1: tie era.
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  Speaker 3: I thought the penalty kill a bunch too, that that
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  Speaker 3: line has gotten a ton of Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of trust there. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: A couple of things. One is that I thought what
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  Speaker 3: was very interesting is like generally those border Battle games,
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  Speaker 3: like they're not pretty right, Normally they're just scrappy and
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  Speaker 3: it's bouncy pucks and stuff. And Wisconsin in that Friday
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  Speaker 3: night game was fully dominant. They just they put pressure
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  Speaker 3: on Minnesota and Minnesota just could not handle it. Conversely,
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  Speaker 3: when they came out on Saturday, it looked like the
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  Speaker 3: exact same game, but flipped the script, like Minnesota was
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  Speaker 3: fired up and they were putting the pressure on and
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  Speaker 3: Wisconsin was on their back heels and they they couldn't
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  Speaker 3: do any Like you said, the power play really got
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  Speaker 3: it started. But you know, like the depth that you
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  Speaker 3: said and momentum is a thing, and I think not
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  Speaker 3: just the depth of Wisconsin scoring, but the depth of
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  Speaker 3: like Minnesota having less of it being able to hold
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  Speaker 3: on to that lead. Right, Like they were asking a
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  Speaker 3: lot from their skaters that were pushing to their absolute
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  Speaker 3: limit in the Friday game. Dan Hammond the Gophers radio
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  Speaker 3: announcer was like, Oh, the Gopher forth line though, like
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  Speaker 3: we've barely seen them innute. Like now it feels again
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  Speaker 3: if I'm picking on people, I hate this, But I
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  Speaker 3: also just thought it was like so stark to hear
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  Speaker 3: that when you know that the Badger fourth line is
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  Speaker 3: doing what it's doing, and so like just that comparativeness
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  Speaker 3: of you're talking two teams that are ranked among the
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  Speaker 3: top in the country that you know, I think a
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  Speaker 3: lot of people thought were sort of fundamentally equal or
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  Speaker 3: or not very far apart, and then you're talking about
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  Speaker 3: a fourth line that is going out there and scoring
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  Speaker 3: a ton for the Badgers and a fourth line for
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  Speaker 3: the Gophers that has no points and is kind of
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  Speaker 3: handful of shots.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Like that just to me was like, this, that's why,
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  Speaker 3: that's what makes what's gone to the number one team
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  Speaker 3: versus Minnesota being a top five team at the moment.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think if your Minnesota your takeaway is being
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  Speaker 1: obviously pretty disappointed that you weren't able to hold on
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  Speaker 1: to a three nothing lead at home, but stepping back
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  Speaker 1: from it a little bit, you're going to be better
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  Speaker 1: for it because you've you've shown that you know, for
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  Speaker 1: thirty thirty five minutes, you're better than the number one
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  Speaker 1: team in the country. You just need to string that
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  Speaker 1: together for the full sixty minutes and you come out
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  Speaker 1: of there with a win. And that I think is
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  Speaker 1: valuable as you move through the season. You know, when
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  Speaker 1: you learn that.
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  Speaker 3: Really good to learn that lesson in October, but.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's up so much better for your your next
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  Speaker 1: four months to know that now and to have that experience,
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  Speaker 1: because I think and Brad Frost is gonna be able
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  Speaker 1: to pull that out and say, hey, you know, we
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  Speaker 1: need to close this out. We've got to lead here.
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  Speaker 1: If you're talking about going to the third period, we've
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  Speaker 1: got to lead. Here's what we need to do to
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  Speaker 1: close it out, because we saw what happens when we don't.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that absolutely had to be just the worst, most
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  Speaker 3: deflating feeling for the Gophers. You just had to feel
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  Speaker 3: for them. I mean, they had that game on lock,
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  Speaker 3: like they looked so good and as you said, like,
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  Speaker 3: that's that's the thing you got to take from it, like,
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  Speaker 3: look what we're capable of, we just have to hold
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  Speaker 3: onto it. But I mean I think given up four
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  Speaker 3: un answered and losing that game to anybody stings to
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  Speaker 3: have it be the Badgers at home, like on Big
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  Speaker 3: ten Network, like that that the Gophers got smacked upside
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  Speaker 3: of the head. That that just was a rough, rough
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  Speaker 3: situation for those girls. I felt bad for them.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the Icebreaker Tournament is coming up this weekend, and
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  Speaker 1: in our next segment after this break, we'll be talking
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  Speaker 1: with Sadie Lungquist, the director of Women's Hockey for College Hockey, inc.
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  Speaker 1: And she will let us into some of the background
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  Speaker 1: of how it got going and what might be coming ahead.
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  Speaker 1: So stay with us on the podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to the podcast.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Todd Moleski here with Nicole Hasey, and this week
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  Speaker 1: is the fourth edition of the Icebreaker Tournament, this year
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  Speaker 1: hosted in Columbus, Ohio. It'll be at the Shot and
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  Speaker 1: Scene Center, Value City Arena. And here to talk about
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  Speaker 1: it is the director of Women's Hockey for College Hockey Incorporated,
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  Speaker 1: Sadie Lunquist. Sadie, great to have you. Welcome to the show.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, thank you for having me. I appreciate it.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: Let's get into it right away about the the Icebreaker.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: This is, you know, the event that's it's been going
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: on for twenty some years on the men's side, but
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: it's still fairly new on the women's side. Where is
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: it at in terms of, like, we know where it's at,
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: it's in Columbus, But where is it as an event
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: at in terms of, you know, four years in with
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: a couple of years off for COVID in the middle,
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: where you'd like to see it as a tournament as
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: an event.
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's to your point. It got disrupted a
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: little bit by COVID, like many things in life did.
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: So we're only about four years into it on the
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: women's side, but I'm really excited for Ohio State to
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: host it. They're gonna just put on a great event,
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: and you know, it's such a unique opportunity. Obviously it's
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: it's exempt games, so everyone loves to play more games
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: over that thirty four max. But I think it's such
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: a great, great event and that you for your fans,
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: You get to bring in three other conferences. It's a
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: non traditional you know, teams that you normally wouldn't see
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: throughout the season. So this year all four teams that
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: are in it made the NCAA tournament last year, so
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: that's something that we can really hang our hat on
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: for this tournament and say, you know, these are the
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: are top notch teams coming in. And I think it's
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: super interesting too that it's you know, it's a little
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: more playoff style, right, it gives these teams a little
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: bit of that win or go home feel. So I'm
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: just really excited for the weekend. I think Ohouse State's
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: going to be great, great hosts, and excited to see
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: what the girls.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: Can do on the ice I know Mercyhursts hosted that
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: first year, but it was in Buffalo, and then we
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: had the neutral site. Was there just a thought process
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: in terms of like moving it to campus host sites
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: and sort of what that can bring to the tournament
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: in terms of like community and being able to bring
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: in more fans.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, you know, I think, well there's you know, teasing out.
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: We actually are looking at doing a neutral site next year.
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: But I think there's two kind of elements to the
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: ice breaker. Is one, obviously fan experience, like you mentioned,
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: it's bringing in these non conference teams and kind of
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: this winner go home feeling to moving on to the championship.
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: With the other element is making sure these student athletes
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: are getting a top notch experience, So you want it
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: to be as close to what it would be like
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: on a campus, and we've explored some neutral sites and
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: it's things that you necessarily don't think about, like overhead
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: goal camps. Is the arena equipped with those type of
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: things that we would hold in NCAA standard too, So
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: that is part of the reason that we look at
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: campus sites. One to drive community, but two to make
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: sure it's just the best experience for these student athletes
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: and coaches. But yeah, right next to you, we are
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: looking at some neutral sites that would be in maybe
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: some non traditional markets to hopefully grow the game. So
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: all those things that we would consider necessities for on
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: campus sites, we will carry that to that neutral site.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: But again, it gives us a chance to maybe bring
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: in new markets, inspire these young and up and coming
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: kids in areas that don't have college hockey or PWHL
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: hockey or you know, any type of what we'd consider
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: elite hockey in that market. So twofold, but yeah, making
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: sure that it's a great fan experience, community experience, and
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: then player experience as well.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: We've seen teams in the past through non conference events
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: kind of in some non traditional places.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: You know, Colorado had had a new.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Games, there were some games in California, while back Nashville
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: has has events. What do you think that does for
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: you know, trying to one, you know, promote that for
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: young girls playing hockey, there's a path for you and
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: this is what you could be, but also for just
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: helping those areas in terms of understanding that you know,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: maybe there might be a school in that area that
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: might someday consider college hockey on the women's side. And
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: this is kind of what it looks like. It feels
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: like like a twofold kind of thing you can.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: Do with that.
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, yeah, I think growing the game, the footprint of
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: the game is always going to be a priority. But
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: for us in this icebreaker in particularly, like you mentioned,
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: is these young girls, like there's I think there's nineteen
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: girls from California playing Division one hockey this year. So
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: how do we make sure that that next generation hopefully
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: doubles the amount of girls from California or Nevada or
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: Arizona because they got to go to an icebreaker and
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: see what it meant for that these four teams were
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: coming into play games. I think even just for me
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: in Minnesota, I was. I grew up born and raised
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: in northern Minnesota, so I was very exposed to the
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: Minnesota teams, but I wasn't super exposed to a lot
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: of the East Coast teams. So I think we could
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: even do that more in our traditional markets, but then
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: tenfold in our non traditional markets where they don't get
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: exposed to any college teams or PWHL teams. So super
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: important in that regard. But again go back to what
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: we said earlier, making sure it's the best event for
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: these student athletes too, right, they're certainly a priority for
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: them to feel inspired to then you know, bring that
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: excitement and atmosphere to the next generation of players.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: I appreciate that you don't know that you just gave
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: me a great lead in which is that I'll be publishing,
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: you know, demographics on USCCHO in the next couple of days,
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: looking at you know, the total number of players from
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: each state, each Canadian province, international countries as well, So
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: that's coming up. I appreciate you know you accidentally did that,
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean we're looking at more and more.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: I mean it may only be one or two, but
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: we're looking more and more girls coming from like I
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: think we're up to over thirty some states that have representation,
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: which is is just really cool to see, right because
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: it feels like that's a huge step forward.
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: Definitely. Yeah, you know, I go to a lot of
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: USA Hockey meetings and I talk with Lindsay Frye right
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: from Harvard, and she's from Arizona, and she brings up
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: this interesting point. When she was growing up, she always
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: aspired to play in the NHL. And I know this
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: is kind of that messaging we're saying with PWHL and
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: college hockey, but that was her goal. Like, she didn't
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: have a college team in her area, she didn't have
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: the PWHL. So how we can take things like the
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: icebreaker and again traditional markets, we still want to inspire
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: all those girls in Ohio to dream big and play
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: at the college level and beyond. But it certainly makes
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: a point for the players, the Lindsay fries of the
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: world to go to Arizona and inspire them and make
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: sure they're not aspiring to play at NHL. They're expiring
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: to play PWHL and college hockey. So certainly a big
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: part of our mission.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: The icebreaker this year is Friday and Saturday Penn State
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: against Cornell noon Eastern Friday, followed by stone Hill Ohio
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: State at three. Winners play the championship game at four
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: on Saturday, after the one o'clock third place game. That
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: that seems like a really cool you mentioned before that
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: it seems like a cool feel, and it's because it's
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: different teams that you probably wouldn't see together in non
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: conference in the regular season. You might see them in
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: an NCAA tournament. But if it can, if it can
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: be that kind of level on NCAA tournament kind of
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: level in the regular season, that that feels like a
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: win for everyone in terms of, you know, the teams
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: getting that competition and also the fans of the area
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: seeing some real high level hockey.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, I mean yeah, if you're stone Hill going in
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: this game won against reigning champs Ohio State on home ice,
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: Like I just I'm getting chills thinking about how amp
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: they are probably to take on that game and you know,
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: slay the Giants and women's hockey right now. And then
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: to your point to the fans, like or even to
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: the young girls, I think a lot about the young
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: girls in that area, A lot of them probably want
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: to play for Ohio State, and that's awesome. The reality
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: is some of them may be Skyhawks and some of
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: them may be Cornhill players instead. So I think, you know,
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: obviously I always want to think about hockey first, but
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: as I've taken on this role, it's a lot of
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: marketing and growing the game and thinking about it from
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: the perspective of the reality is a lot of these
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: girls will play at other schools, So how do we
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: get them exposed to more schools even if they are
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: a Buckeye fan or whoever their home team is. Let's
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: make sure that they know the full spectrum, the full
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: gamut of opportunities they have in college.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: In this particular instance too, I know at first you
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: had looked at the Columbus Blue Jackets practice facility, but
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: now that where they're playing at the Shawn Stein Center
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: where the Ohio State men played. But knowing that Ohio
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: State women need a better rink, and knowing that they're capable,
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: like they have a great fan turnout for the rink
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: that they do have, like the putting them in this
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: bigger arena and sort of showing what kind of draw
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: and like what an atmosphere can be when this team
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: is given the opportunity. Is also like probably wasn't anyway
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: the first thought on anybody's mind, but it's a pretty
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: cool side side story to this. Well.
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, yeah, you always want to see these bigger arenas
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: being filled, you know with the again the die hard fans,
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: the next generation or people who are just buying into hockey. Absolutely,
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: but I think a big reason for this change was
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: just making sure these student athletes have the best possible experience,
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: the amenities they need. And you know, I know this
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: is kind of a fun tournament, it's exempty games, but
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: it still means something. So you want to make sure
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: you're giving these kids every opportunity to perform at their
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: best and that's going to be at the shot. So
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: excited for this tournament, Excited to see, you know, what
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: can happen and how we can grow on it. Like
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: I said, I think O House State is going to
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: be phenomenal hosts. Every host has been phenomenal, but every
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: year we take learnings, We're going to grow from it,
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: build it and make this a better and bigger event
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: every year.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Sadie, you've been in this role I think since January.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Correct that chi what drew you to that opportunity to
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: the opening and what did you feel like you could
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: you could foster for women's hockey, for the marketing of
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: women's hockey, and especially to to you know, the future
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: players that I know is a big part of what
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: college hockey does is it's performed that marketing to the
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: players that are out there who want to be college
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: hockey players.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: How why did that appeal to you?
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: Oh gosh, why didn't it appeal I mean, anyone who
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: enjoys hockey is I feel so fortunate and blessed to
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: have gotten the role. But yeah, when I first got
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: out of college, I worked for the Minnesota Wild for
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: about eight years, and I loved it. It was an
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: incredible opportunity to be this young college kid, you know,
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: working for your hometown team. It felt like that was
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: the dream job. And leaving the Wild was one of
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: the hardest decisions I ever made, But I left and
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: I went to a digital marketing agency. I learned a ton,
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: but I learned I needed to be in sports. I
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: would trade the nine to five for weekends and nights
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: for seven o'clock podcast. I would give it up all
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: my nine to five forty hours for this kind of stuff.
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: So when the role became available, it honestly it felt
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: like a perfect blend of what I did at the
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: Wild and then you know, going to that digital marketing
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: agency was it was an opportunity to move out, move up,
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: and come back. So I feel like I learned a
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: lot more in the marketing role and how to speak
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: to the to the right folks and the right audiences
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: and whatnot, and coupled with my experience in hockey, I
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: just I guess I thought working for the Wild was
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: a dream job, and it was. But if I could
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: have written a job description for me, it would it
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: would be along the lines of what I'm doing here
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: at College Hockey, inc. So I'm incredibly grateful college hockey.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: I was a player up in Midji State. It shaped
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: so much of who I am and the opportunities I
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: had in life. So to give back and grow that landscape,
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: I just I don't know how else I could write
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: a job description more for perfectly.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: So, College Hockey ink had been has been sort of
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: embedded on the med side for such a long time,
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: and it definitely felt like it was it was time
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: for them to have, you know, a director of women's
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: and be in the side of it too, what do
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: you see as sort of like the biggest I think
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: there's so much opportunity, right because because there was a
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: boyd So I guess what could you maybe like to
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: talk about what sort of like the biggest opportunities you
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: see or maybe like one short term long term goal
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: like are what are the things that you and knowing
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: that you are one person less than a year in
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: the role, you know, why can't you just magically fix everything, Sadie?
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: But no, you know what what you see is sort
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: of like the ability and because I should say for
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: maybe it would be people who aren't super familiar with it.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: College hockeying on the men's side is about talking to
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: some of the younger boys about the options of maybe
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: going and seeing instead of major major junior and that
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: sort of stuff that is not necessarily a problem on
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: the women's side. So your role is different than sort
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: of what the main thing the College Hockey Inc. Had
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: been doing. So I think you know there is a
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: chance for you, This opportunity is is really wide open
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: to sort of write what that looks like. And so
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: I just I remember thinking like when they open this,
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: like Okay, that's really interesting, But what College Hockey Inc.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: Does on the men's side is not what they'll do
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: on the women's side. And so I guess that's all
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: a really long way of just saying like, yeah, what
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: do you see is sort of like the opportunities here
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: and what what can be accomplished maybe short and long term.
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, No, it's a great point. We don't have those eligibility,
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: you know, A big part of what we are on
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: the men's side is combating that eligibility and making sure
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: the NCAA is a viable path to the NHL. So
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: we don't have that problem on the women's side because
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: the PWHL is ninety plus percent college players. But realistically,
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: my goal is to market and ro college hockey, and
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: I think it's easiest I break it up into three
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: buckets kind of one, we work with colleges and prospective
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: student athlete er sorright, we work with colleges and prospective
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: schools to add college hockey. So University of Michigan we're
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: helping with that feasibility study to hopefully bring Division one
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: women's hockey to Michigan. And we actually have two other
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: confidential schools in the humper, so we actually have a
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: backlog of schools right now that want to have or
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: talk about potentially having Division one women's hockey. So that's
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: one bucket. The other one is the marketing pr research
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: that we do for the current landscape, the current storylines, players, coaches,
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: trying to grow the game bigger, broader audience, you know,
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: trying to follow in you guys's footstep and have really
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: engaged audience with the current landscape. And then the third
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: bucket is prospective student athletes. We work with a lot
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: of programs, coaches, even one on one conversations to try
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: to educate and empower them on what it means to
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: be recruited. My goal is for these kids to get
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: to the coaches and already kind of know what it
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: means to be recruited, the eligibility, the clearing house, the
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: key dates, so that the coaches can kind of cut
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: through that and really talk about the fun stuff for
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: the recruiting process. So I just think about, like my
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: recruiting experience, I didn't know anything. I didn't know the
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: key dates, I didn't know when coaches could contact me
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: or likewise, and we're seeing that problem still today, which
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: is unfortunate. We just you know, there's not enough resources
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: and education out there for these student athletes and their parents.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: The parents is almost like the bigger audience and who
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: we talk to. But those are kind of the three
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: areas that we focus on, and there's a million other
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: things in between, but those are kind of the three
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: areas of growth and opportunity that we see college hockey inc.
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: Really helping the women's game on.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: I have to say, you're leaving us a bunch of
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: things to look into here, a potential neutral site for
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: an icebreaker next season. Two confidential schools looking into or doing.
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: That's just have some breadcrumbs.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: Here in the season when we have nothing better to
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: do with our.
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: Everybody is free time on their hands, right.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: But for the school that we do know in the
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: feasibility study with Michigan that's been out there, I think
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: everyone's kind of seeing that that's uh somewhere down the
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: road here. Can you get into what that means? Like,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: how does that from from a school's perspective? What do
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: they find out? Obviously it sounds like, you know, is
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: it feasible to do this? But there's money concerns, there's
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: you know, now now we're.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: About being an age where you're talking about uh, you know.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Scholarship limits, limits of of of different things, and revenue's
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: and expenses and all those kind of things. How does
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: that work?
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a great question. I mean it's essentially it's
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: a it's a feasibility No, it's a big swat analysis
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: right of what it would take for them expense wise,
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: opportunity wise. You know, like even things is like what
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: what is compensation for coaches? What would you need to
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: do in order to make your arena sufficient to host
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: a Division one team? So you know, you look at
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: the yostold that has to be renovated, whether there have
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: to be a new arena, All of those things are
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: what the feasibility layer into. And then also the opportunity side,
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: like what are other schools doing in terms of sponsorship
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: and what are kind of the benefits that you can
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: reap some of that long term effects of alumni of
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: having high achieving student athletes at your campus. So it's
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: it's all the buzzwords that you can think of for
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: a feasibility study to say, here's your cost, but here's
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: your opportunity to having a Division one women's hockey team.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: I've wondered whether it also means or gets into the
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: what the opportunities are in that specific area, as to like,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: here are the supporters of hockey in your area, These
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: are the people you might be able to contact to
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: help fund some of that.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, you know we've been working a lot with obviously
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: their coach now their head coach, Jenna, but Denise Illich
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: is a big player in this, and you know it's understanding, Okay,
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: if you have to fundraise, where does this money come from?
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: How is it? You know, what are those opportunities there?
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: So it goes through all of that, and it's it's
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: been a really positive experience with Michigan thus far. Obviously
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: there's still a lot to go, a lot of runways still,
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: but I just it's like the big domino and if
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: that falls, I feel like it can be a really
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: big impact on the future of women's hockey. So obviously
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: we want to be a positive thing too. Though there's
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: seven Division one men's teams, euro Division on women's teams,
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: but we don't want to look at that way. It's
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: not this why don't you have it? It's a here's
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: an opportunity for you and look what it can do
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: for your university, your program, your alumni, all these different things.
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: It's a positive thing that we want to bring it
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: to your campus, not a negative as to why you
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: don't have it.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: This one feels particularly interesting just because there has been
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: so much talk about it. You're also talking like such
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: a large school with such a large girls hockey base, right,
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: Like you can walk in with the list of national
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: team players from from Michigan that went to other schools
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: and be like when you're talking about opportunities, So I
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: just kind of wanted to ask about and not compare
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: in terms of like where one is better, but like
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: you know, we just Delaware was announced last year, right,
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: and that's like a just a completely different situation, right,
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: and like they had a rank to use, and so
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: just in terms of I feel like when we're talking
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: about feasibility and we talk about like University Michigan, like
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: you said, that's the big domino, and like there's a
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: lot of money, there's a lot of alumni, there's a
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: lot of interest. But like maybe drilling back a little
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: bit out on that, like a lot of women's hockey
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: schools aren't aren't to big ten university absolutely. Yeah, So
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: in terms like I remember thinking, like what was really
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: interesting about Delaware is like they had that rink right away,
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: right like, which in terms of like the output of
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: what they needed to do to bring in a team
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: to start a team was on the lower end of
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: starting a hockey program.
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: Definitely. You know, that's really one of the biggest parts
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: of the feasibility study is the infrastructure. I mean, that's
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: that's hockey at its core though right we play we
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: play on a frozen rink and with lots of equipment,
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: So that's always gonna be one of the biggest barriers
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: to hockey, and that place true with these feasibility studies,
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: it's usually one of the biggest pieces. But yeah, Delaware
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: had had the infrastructure, had the facility, so ours was
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: more you know, how do you make that your own,
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: how do you use it, your restructure it to your advantage,
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: make it, you know, D one caliber, all those different things.
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: But you know, Michigan is big and that would be
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: a huge thing. But the really cool thing is Delaware
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: is coming in with the same attitude of they want
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: to win. They're a Division one program, They're gonna have
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: Division one standards, integrity, and they want to win right away.
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: They're not coming in to say we just we just
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: want to be a part of the conversation. They want
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: to see it at the table. And that's a super
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: cool part of this of women's hockey, I would say,
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: in college hockey as a whole, right like the Frozen Four.
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: You guys know the Frozen Four last year was two
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: huge campuses and then two small campuses and Clark and Colgate,
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: And I love, I love that women's hockey can hopefully
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: continue to perpetuate that and say someday, if Delaware and
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: Michigan are both teams, Delaware could beat Michigan. And what
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: other sport do you get to say that, which I
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: think is super cool and unique.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: The last question for you from me is about, I guess,
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: looking into the future of college sports, there's a lot
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: of worry about, you know, what the so called non
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: revenue sports have coming ahead because of you know, a
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: lot of money now about to be directed towards the football,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: men's basketball, women's basketball of the world. How often does
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: that come up when you talk with administrators? And how
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: can women's hockey kind of I guess, maintain or have
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: a better level playing field. When you start talking about that,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: you've got, you know, on one side, you've got Ohio State, Wisconsin, Minnesota,
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: the big ten schools, Penn State that's kind of emerging,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: is a big in school and still emerging as a
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: as a hockey program, and keep them on the same
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: page as some of the smaller schools and let that
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: competition kind of continue to grow.
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, this is a tough one, man. You're really
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: hitting final question and it's a doping here for a while. No,
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: I'm just kidding. This is a great one because it's
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: the reality of where college sports are going. You know.
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: The first part of your question was how much are
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: you talking about this? It feels like every day that
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: we're talking about the settlement and how it's going to
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: impact hockey, and it almost feels, you know, like we
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: talk you talk about football and basketball and those are
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: the real players, and it feels like hockey is like,
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: what are the side effects of this of this settlement
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: going to be on hockey and even particularly women's hockey.
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: And we're in such unique, you know, single sport conferences,
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: So how does it impact teams like that and the
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: D two schools of the world playing D one, like,
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: you know, you hope that that parody in the college
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: world doesn't go way. You know, I think we're starting
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: to see that in some areas. But that's also I
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: think naturally it will ebb and flow. More so in
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: terms of how we keep it that way with all
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: the changing elements of college hockey, I don't know. I
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: don't have a great answer for you. We're trying to
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: to navigate and be on the forefront of that thought leadership,
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: but until the full details of the settlement go through,
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: it's it's kind of like a we have to think
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: about option one, option two and option three. And you know,
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: I went to a small D you know, D two
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: school D one program and we built it on come here,
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: be a part of building a legacy. Work your butt off.
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: Know that other teams are probably gonna be more talented
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: than us, but we're going to put up a fight
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: every game. And I it's this kind of seems silly
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: to say that we need to build programs around that,
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: but you do in the ever changing world of transfer,
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: portal and nil and all those different things. So hopefully,
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: you know, we find a time in women's hockey where
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: we can find where we have a lot of parity
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: or continue to have more parody, I should say, but
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: it's gonna be hard to not a gate in these
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: next coming months and next year with with all the
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: changes in the NCAA hockey.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: So my question is kind of in a completely different direction.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: One thing that I have seen happen happened prior to
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: the p WHL when you were talking sort of like
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: Olympic level international hockey and the college game, and now
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: with the PBHL, is that there's there seems to be
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: a disconnect that if you are a fan of the
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: international game or the pro game, you're not necessarily watching
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: college hockey. And so I'm wondering how much or what
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: you've thought about in terms of how to make that
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: connection and get people to see, like you said, ninety
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: some percent of the players that will play in the
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: p WHL play that ncaice hockey, right, And so there's
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: just to me, there's this natural like come watch these
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: players for much cheaper and closer at the home that
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: I don't like, don't understand how that connection's not made,
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: Like the players that you're watching play in the Olympics
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: or in the PWHL didn't come out of a cabbage
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: patch like they've been they've been accessible for you to watch.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: That's the joke I make. But yeah, I just was curious,
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: like what you've thought about, and like, what do you
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: think that maybe, like we as journalists, teams, fans, what
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: we can do to sort of make those come together
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: because you see all these you know, new records being
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: sept for the ped up and things like that, and
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: then you see some of the attendance in college hockey
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: and it's like, where, why aren't these things coming together more?
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, No, that's a great question something me and my
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: team and I'm sure you guys everyone has as a
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: stakeholder and women's hockey talks about. I think it'll with
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: the PWHL. It's so interesting because when you go to
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: a game, you do notice it is a lot of
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: non traditional hockey fans, right. It's people who are following
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: the Caitlin Clark effect and just wanting to empower women's sports.
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: So I hope, our hope this year is to draw
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: that bigger connection to say, Okay, you've tuned in the PWHL,
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: now this might be your first time at a game.
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: Well your favorite player to your point, Nicole she came
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: from Yukon. Go watch Yukon. Your ten favorite players they
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: came from Wisconsin, Go watch Wisconsin. I mean all these schools,
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: there's so many schools being read presenting the PWHL. So
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: at College Hockey, Inc. We're trying to do a better
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: job of drawing those connections, drawing those parallels. Things like
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: we're developing some marketing content, some videos of these hype
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: videos to hopefully play during PWHL games so that they're seeing, Oh,
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: Hannah Brand said my favorite player. Oh she played at
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: the Gophers. That's awesome. You know Daniel Sirdacney. I didn't
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: know she played at Colgate. I got to start following
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: that team. So that's probably on us and other stakeholders
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: in the college game just to draw those parallels a
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: lot tighter. And I think this is the one time
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: all compare women's hockey to college and professional football all
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: but they do such a good job. If you watch
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: an NFL game, every person says, you know so and
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: so from this university, so and so from this university.
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: And I think we can take some learnings from that
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: to say, how do we take the PWHL. And I
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: know not every player came from NCAA, but those that did,
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: let's make sure that it's known where they came from.
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: And even for other leagues, you know, it's important to
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: know these European players. We want to you know, we
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: want to want their hometowne and their home programs to
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: be acknowledged as well. It's not like we're trying to
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: monopolize all of the marketing of women's hockey, but when
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: ninety odd percent of your players are coming from the
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: nc DOUBLEA, we really need to push that connection and
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: make sure that when you're watching your favorite team, you
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: know what ten to fifteen NCUBA teams are being represented.
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: And I think that's just a unique thing that we'll
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: need to make sure we're smarter and more efficient on
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: this next year.
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just wanted to say, you know, secondarily to that,
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: I'll also have a story about this, but yeah, there's
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: one hundred and seventy five women invited to p WHL
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: camps at one hundred and fifty four of them played
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: in the NCAA, and they are thirty three different schools represented.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: So that's just yeah, to me, it's so natural, and
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: I like because I come from the college side, like
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: I can't wrap my head around like where that disconnect goes.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: And so yeah, it's just it's always something that I'm
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: trying to figure out, like why people don't don't connect
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: those two things.
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and hopefully it'll come right. I think so
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: often we compare the PWHL or college hockey to basketball,
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: and I catch myself doing it too, but it's it's
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: more more widely watched sport and it's been around longer.
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: Right the WNBA finals the other night, It's been around
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: since what nineteen ninety one? Yeah, yeah, so it's gonna
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: take I think part of me is like twenty.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: Eight years for them to win, right, So yeah.
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I'm trying to practice patients, but also I
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: want this. I want people to see this game. To
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: your point, you can go to a college game and
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: see ten Olympic or national level players and that's just
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: an incredible testament to college hockey. So we need to
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: make sure we're capitalizing on that. And I think if
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: you can get a fan into a game, you can
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: convert them, but we just got to get them in
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: more often.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: Well, I will reiterate my call for a peed up
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: game on the off day of the Frozen four every year,
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: the Saturday night at the Frozen four. That's that's my dream.
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: Romantic.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: So the first thing I checked when the PWHL announced
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: their their schedule, and there's like, we're in Minneapolis, like
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: not even far away, like we were well not, but
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: we were doing After Life last year, like that would
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: have taken some faglin. We are in Minneapolis and the
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: Rost are not home pretty much. I think they're not
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: home till like the following Wednesday. And I just was like,
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: this is such a missed opportunity.
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: Oh man, well well I'll put that on my agenda.
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: All right, We're taking it to the street.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Elevate that to the next level. There we go.
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, say.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: Quist, thank you so much for joining us.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: We love what you do with c CHI and we
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: hope the best for you going forward.
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: No, thank you so much for having me. I love
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: listening to your podcasts, so I'm excited to hear all
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: the other things that happened before I jump on.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: We will be back on the podcast after Welcome back
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: to the podcast. Todd Moluski here with Nicole Hasey and
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: our thanks again to see lun Quist for that conversation.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: That we had just before the break. She left us
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: with some.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: Things really to check in on there with, I mean,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: the icebreaker next season and who these mystery teams are
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: for doing the feasibility studies on possibly fielding a women's
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: hockey team down the road.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we should say we don't actually have any idea
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: who she was talking about, but it definitely will be
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: fun to speculate and start, you know, looking for little
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: pieces to dirt and see what we can build on,
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: you know. And when we were off Mike, you and
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: I were talking about, like we know that Northern Michigan
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: had done a feasibility study. We know that, like Illinois
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: had done a feasibility study in the past, So like
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: we don't know, we don't know. Are we talking a
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: completely new market? Are we talking? You know, like Tennessee
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: State with their program they open their men's program. So
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: lots of possibilities and no information that we have at
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: the moment, but a lot They'll be fun to start
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: start talking it up and see if anybody knows anything.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: We'll see what we can find out and if you
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: know more, if you have any guesses, if you'd like
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: teams or have ideas of teams you'd like to see.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: Hit us up on social media. You can find us.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Nicole is at Nicole Hasey.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: I'm at Todd Malski on various different platforms. So find
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: us there and let us know who you.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: Want to see.
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: But let the speculation begin.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: Exactly, let's speculate on this weekend coming up, opening weekend
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: of ECAC games. To an extent, there's a few anyway,
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: One that I know captured your attention to Cole Princeton
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: at Yale on Friday. What about that one is intriguing
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: to you?
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: Well, you know when we were talking about Cornell and
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: that first weekend of IVY League or play for the IVYS,
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: Princeton went out and scored a whole bunch of goals
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: last weekend playing Robert Morris, so another AHA team, and
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: so sort of the contrast between those twos is super interesting.
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: And then of course Yale scored what nine goals on
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: Tuesday night, and so so you've got two teams that
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: went out and we're super offensive in their first weekend
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: to play that are going to face off against each other.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: So will there be defense in that game? Who knows?
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: So it's either it's either going to be more goals
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: than anybody count, or it's going to be like no goals.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: I feel like there will be no in between. But yeah,
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: I think that one will be really interesting, and because
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: we saw those two teams come out in their opening
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: games and play really, really fast and really offensive. To
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: see them play each other should help us, you know,
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: sort of get a gauge of where they stack up.
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: And as you said, like what can we take from
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: that Cornell series? I don't know, like is it fair
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: to pick on them for one series? For me, it's
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: you kind of compare where Princeton was at against a
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: similar team. You know, Robert Morris is in h A
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: is a team that should compete for the second place
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  Speaker 3: in that conference against Mercy Hurst. So those those outcomes,
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  Speaker 3: when you compare them, it's like, I don't I don't
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  Speaker 3: know what to take from this. So I feel like
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  Speaker 3: that one should be a lot of fun to watch
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  Speaker 3: and will either be a goalie tool or all eupence
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  Speaker 3: all the time, and either one will be fun.
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  Speaker 1: As we mentioned Cornell talk about with Sadie Cornell playing
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  Speaker 1: in the icebreaker tournament. Uh, and so they get the
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  Speaker 1: h A favorite in that first round against Penn State.
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  Speaker 1: So that's another you know, if if if they weren't
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  Speaker 1: able to score against Mercyhurst, it doesn't get any easier comparatively, uh,
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  Speaker 1: playing against Penn State.
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  Speaker 3: No, it's more likely that Penn State scores more goals
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  Speaker 3: as well, so the the what are two goals probably
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  Speaker 3: isn't going to cut it from Cornell. So yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: feel I hope every time I say I think we'll
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  Speaker 3: get some questions answered and we end up not. But
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  Speaker 3: I just think like these are the sorts of games
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  Speaker 3: that are going to make things a little clear as
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  Speaker 3: to as to how things actually are lining up and
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  Speaker 3: what what that first weekend meant. But yeah, that that
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  Speaker 3: to me is probably the most interesting of the icebreaker games,
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  Speaker 3: uh as we know them. Obviously, we'll see who advances
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  Speaker 3: and what that championship game looks like, but at that moment,
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  Speaker 3: it's it's eleven Cornell verse twelve pen State and with
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  Speaker 3: with sort of the back ground of last weekend, that
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  Speaker 3: is going to be an absolutely fascinating game. And that's
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  Speaker 3: not at a eleven am Central to Tame. So some
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  Speaker 3: nice day watching, it's some morning watching for us to
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: on Friday to start off the weekend of games. Well,
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  Speaker 3: actually Wisconsin place Thursday night, so there's there's Thursday night
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: hockey this week too, So we had Tuesday hockey and
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: we got we got lots of them's college hockey, which
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  Speaker 3: is there's never anything bad about.
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  Speaker 2: That, right.
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  Speaker 1: We can kind of continue with some some non conference
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: mashups too, not as many as we've had in the
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: last few weeks, but Colgate playing against Maine.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: I've got Merrimack hosting Lyndon Wood.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: It's Saint Lawrence is playing at rit which I'm intrigued
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  Speaker 1: by that one a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Rit having already not.
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  Speaker 3: That has a trap written all over it, doesn't it.
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  Speaker 1: It just feels like Rit is a team that shown
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  Speaker 1: they can they can beat, you know, a really good teams, so.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't overlook them. And so yeah, I agree
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: that that was a who that could go poorly. I
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: actually think Quinnipiac at Brown in ECAC could also be
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: a good game. Brown is one of those teams that
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: continues to get better, and it has good goaltending, has
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: you know, jadiegan Lan a few other players, and so
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: Brown is not an easy and easy get for anybody,
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: and it'll be a good test for Quinnipiac to see
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: you know, the mile about header first hat trick last week,
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: and they were very good on an offense last week,
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: and so yeah, I think that Brown will be a
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: bigger test for them and to see how they handle
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: that and if they can can still be moving the
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: puck the same way.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: Any final thoughts before we wrap things up this week
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  Speaker 1: and then leave everyone to their hockey watching.
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: No, but everybody should watch because I know the man
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: last week I was fun. There were there were so
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: many games that just I mean I had I wasn't
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: planning to be glued to holy Cross Northeastern, right, but
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: like that much if you're talking about in depth, watze
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: clubs state like holy Cross kept coming back. They weren't
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: in that game because they had a goalie standing in
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: their head like they were. They were playing toe to
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: tote at Northeastern, and it just it means so much
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: good for the sport to four games like that, four
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: outcomes like that. You know what, I focusing on individual matchups,
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: but what that means is that unranked teams are going
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: toe to toe with ranked teams and teams that have
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: historically finished towards the bottom of their conferences are pushing
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: the teams that have historically finished at the top of
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: their conferences. Like, oh, it's a cliche to say every
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: you know, no game is a given, and coaches say,
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: you know, their conference is the hardest and you can't
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: take anything for granted, But like that's actually playing out here,
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: and that that every game you you cannot predict the outcome.
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: And you know, like even just Wisconsin Minnesota watching that
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: Friday night Wisconsin game, there's nobody thought coming out that
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: Wisconsin would be going into the second half of that
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: second game down three to zero. So even when it's
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: the top games, like there's just there's no idea what's
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: going to happen. And that's what makes it fun.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we hope it is fun for you. We know
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: it will be fun for us watching. So we thank
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  Speaker 1: you again for joining us on this week's edition of
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  Speaker 1: the podcast.
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  Speaker 2: We will talk to you next week.