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Nationals begin GM search + Dodgers starter Tyler Glasnow joins FT · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: Hot pointer time, I'll talk about the Nats General manager
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Speaker 1: search KRATS. Mike Rizzo was let go in July and
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Speaker 1: Mike to Bartelow is the interim GM. But Bob Nightingale
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Speaker 1: first was reporting about it, and then the story came
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Speaker 1: out in the Athletic. Ken's involved in that story and
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Speaker 1: they are interviewing a number of candidates, which include Carter Hawkins,
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Speaker 1: the Cubs current GM, Diamondbacks executive Amiel Sade, and Dodgers
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Speaker 1: senior vice president Josh Burns. There's the article Carter Hawkins
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Speaker 1: gets the picture on the page. What do you think?
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Speaker 2: I think to Bartelow, from what I've heard from the Nats.
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Speaker 2: From Nats people had a lot more to do with
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Speaker 2: some of these massive trade halls at the brought in
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Speaker 2: and why he's not the one that's up for it,
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Speaker 2: I don't know. But whoever they bring in, whoever it
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Speaker 2: ends up being, if Carter Hawkins is the guy, I
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Speaker 2: need to build up this minor league system. And I
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Speaker 2: don't mean with just people that are traded and brought over.
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Speaker 2: I'm talking the staff needs to be able to produce
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Speaker 2: more minor leaguers that have a big big league impact.
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Speaker 2: Everybody that's had a big league impact was either the
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Speaker 2: first pick, their first pick in the draft, which was
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Speaker 2: not a lot of development with or traded and picked
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Speaker 2: up from another team, which there's not a lot of developments,
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Speaker 2: just like, hey, we're gonna give you two hundred bats
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Speaker 2: in double A one hundle A and then you'll come
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Speaker 2: up to the big leagues Like that's whoever they get
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Speaker 2: that better be their specialty.
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Speaker 1: For the record, or at least according to the article,
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Speaker 1: to Bartelow, who's the intern JM is in the mix,
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Speaker 1: so he is among the candidates. They're just listing other ones.
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Speaker 1: They're doing their homework, which I will give them credit for. Wait. Wait,
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Speaker 1: so they're going to hire a new GM and they're
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Speaker 1: going to do at the very least what's called an
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Speaker 1: info suck and find out information about how other teams
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Speaker 1: are operating. Not every team does that, but good on
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Speaker 1: the Nats for doing it. Let me give you a
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Speaker 1: little bit more context on Carter Hawkins, since I think
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Speaker 1: he's the highest position wise of the external candidates, and
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Speaker 1: he's the face on the article there so he's the
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Speaker 1: GM of the Cubs. And in the article they said
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Speaker 1: with the Cubs closing in on their first playoff berth.
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Speaker 1: Since twenty twenty, Hawkins has been involved in revamping the
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Speaker 1: club's R and D research and development department and streamlining
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Speaker 1: scouting on the pro, amateur and international sides, with a
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Speaker 1: bigger emphasis on data and video rather than in person evaluations.
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Speaker 1: He was hired away from the Guardians after the twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty one Cubs have been developing much better lately. If
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Speaker 1: I'm using that as a blanket statement, and so I
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Speaker 1: Day Sharma somewhat agreed with that yesterday. So that would
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Speaker 1: be a good sign and would play into what Kratz
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Speaker 1: is talking about. If you're the Nats, you need to
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Speaker 1: develop more players.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we also need people that are actually seeing players.
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Speaker 2: I don't agree with just the full we're going to
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Speaker 2: go full a's and go no scouts in the field
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Speaker 2: because they haven't won anything.
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Speaker 3: They have want shit.
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Speaker 2: So let's also establish that you've got to have people
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Speaker 2: out there watching guys that get to know the players.
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Speaker 2: Just watching them on video doesn't give you anything on
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Speaker 2: their makeup or any of that. You got to actually
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Speaker 2: have communication with players and see them play and see
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Speaker 2: them struggle and see how they react. When I ran
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Speaker 2: into Carter Hawkins in the Guardians organization Indians at the time,
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Speaker 2: he was part of the group there, the front office
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Speaker 2: group there that really did a good job of weeding
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Speaker 2: out coaches and front office who, without mincing words, weren't
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Speaker 2: good people like the group of people that the Guardians
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Speaker 2: have there now in the front office coaching staffs. Their
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Speaker 2: exact wording was, yes, we want good coaches, but we
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Speaker 2: want people who can really lead men. So if Carter
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Speaker 2: Hawkins can bring that over to wherever he becomes a
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Speaker 2: GM next, wherever he becomes a paid president of baseball
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Speaker 2: operations next, I think he has a I think that
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Speaker 2: organization will have a leg up. Look at what hein
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Speaker 2: Bloom did with the Red Sox. Yes, he got the
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Speaker 2: short end of the stick, as you know, they didn't
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Speaker 2: give him any money to spend and he got fired.
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Speaker 2: But you're seeing a lot of that come to fruition.
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Speaker 2: That starts not just with the players that are picked,
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Speaker 2: but with the coaches that are in the minor league system.
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Speaker 2: So I know for a fact, because I saw Carter
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Speaker 2: Hawkins in those situations with the Guardians, that's his background,
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Speaker 2: and I hope he would bring that and not just
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Speaker 2: the not just the like impersonal. Hey, we're gonna watch
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Speaker 2: everything on video and never actually get our eyes on somebody.
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Speaker 1: The other thing for the Nats is eventually they're gonna
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Speaker 1: have to figure out what their plan is. From the
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Speaker 1: tippy top, the ownership situation was they're up for sale.
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Speaker 1: It sounded like they didn't get the price they wanted
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Speaker 1: and they haven't been putting much into the team. So
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Speaker 1: where are we at right now?
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: Are they gonna sell? Are they gonna stay? Or are
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Speaker 2: they gonna buy some players? Because that was always a
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Speaker 2: thing when they won, they went out and got players.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they don't have to leave the league in payroll.
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Speaker 2: But but they need to go out and get the
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Speaker 2: Max Suers or is the Patrick Corbyns, those guys Jason
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Speaker 2: Worth to come in and fill the right roles.
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Speaker 1: The star power worked for them, the star power acquisitions,
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Speaker 1: remember Max schers are At the time, people are like,
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Speaker 1: what you're paying them? What he was worth every penny
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Speaker 1: to you? Yeah, he gave you the individual, he gave
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Speaker 1: you the World Series title, he gave you everything. And
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Speaker 1: I thought this past season was gonna be the year
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Speaker 1: that they made a little push Kratz. I was like, Eh,
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Speaker 1: maybe they'll go get an ace. Maybe they'll go get
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Speaker 1: a big boy bat to go along with some of
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Speaker 1: the younger bats and show them the way they just
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Speaker 1: didn't do it. So that's part of this and that's
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Speaker 1: not going to be controlled by whoever they bring in next.
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Speaker 1: I mean, whoever they bring in next, hopefully eventually is
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Speaker 1: with you know, I would say either an ownership group
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Speaker 1: that's recommitting, or they're moving on. I think they're moving on.
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Speaker 1: I think they're going to sell. I'm pretty confident that
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Speaker 1: they're looking to sell. They just want to wait until
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Speaker 1: they get through the next collective bargaining agreement, which sounds
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Speaker 1: like it's the case for almost all of them at
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Speaker 1: this point. Doesn't it sound like many of the owners
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Speaker 1: are pulling back because they think they're going to get
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're not going to sell three teams in
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven. You know you can't. There's just not
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Speaker 2: that many people that have that much money just hanging
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Speaker 2: around to purchase teams. I disagree, like you see because
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Speaker 2: then also those guys are getting sucked up by the
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Speaker 2: teams or the new expansion teams too, Like you're talking
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Speaker 2: people in the billions.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, but these are people in separate cities. I mean, AJ,
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Speaker 1: where do you stand on this one? For me, let's
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Speaker 1: use the Twins as an example. They said, we are
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Speaker 1: selling this team for one point seven billion dollars plus
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Speaker 1: you take on I think about four hundred million dollars
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Speaker 1: of debt, and there were billionaires in the running, and
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Speaker 1: it sounds like most of them valued it at around
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Speaker 1: one point five and maybe that even felt generous, because
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Speaker 1: really one point five is one point nine because of
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Speaker 1: the four hundred million in debt. That's real money. And
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Speaker 1: so they said, this is what it's worth, and the
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Speaker 1: twins laughed and hung up the phone on them. That's
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Speaker 1: a real story in the athletic. So I think there
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Speaker 1: are interested parties, but there's a line, even for billionaires,
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Speaker 1: where they're like, I have to pay an extra two
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Speaker 1: hundred million dollars for something that I already think is mispriced,
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Speaker 1: Like how much of a tax is there. Everybody has
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Speaker 1: their limit. They don't have unlimited money, even though they're billionaires.
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Speaker 1: So do you think that those three teams could get
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Speaker 1: sold post CBA.
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Speaker 2: I think I don't know if that's what they're waiting for.
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Speaker 2: The Learners have been talking about selling this team forever,
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Speaker 2: so I don't know.
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Speaker 3: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I mean the Rays are going to about to be
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Speaker 2: sold in the next I think it's going to become official,
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Speaker 2: probably in the next couple of weeks here, the Twins
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Speaker 2: or got to get sold at some point, the Nats,
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Speaker 2: who else, the A's we'd like to be sold at
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Speaker 2: some point.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, the.
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Speaker 2: White Sox are going to be sold at some point
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Speaker 2: before twenty twenty nine, according to the agreement that was signed.
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Speaker 3: So there's teams.
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Speaker 2: People will buy these teams. You just have to find
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Speaker 2: the right people to buy the teams, because there's been
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Speaker 2: people that have bought teams also that haven't been the
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Speaker 2: right people and they haven't worked out. Frank mccorr comes
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Speaker 2: to mind of the Dodgers, right, he bought the team,
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Speaker 2: didn't have the money, but he's still you got to
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Speaker 2: deal the century. He still gets fair. He just still
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Speaker 2: gets all the parking, even though he doesn't own the team.
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Speaker 2: He worked out a deal to sell the team, but
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Speaker 2: he keeps all the parking, which is valuable as because there's.
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Speaker 3: No overhead on the parking.
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Speaker 2: You just collect money. That's great, Frank, call me out.
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Speaker 3: I want that deal.
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Speaker 1: Well, from what I recalled, it was a minute ago.
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Speaker 1: He was barring a ton of money. He was backed
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Speaker 1: up in debt and some other issues, and they wanted
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Speaker 1: him out and he had some letbridge and he's like, cool,
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Speaker 1: I'll get out, like you're asking, but I want the
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Speaker 1: parking lots. I mean, didn't we just hear about this
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Speaker 1: with Stu Sternberg with the race where eventually the league's like, hey, dude,
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Speaker 1: it's been twenty plus years, it's not working. You got
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Speaker 1: to get us a new ballpark so we can move
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Speaker 1: on here. And now he's selling the team and still
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Speaker 1: gets to keep a little bit so he can prop
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Speaker 1: it off the back end. But anyway, getting back to
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Speaker 1: the point here, Nationals fans krats feel like the biggest
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Speaker 1: problem is that the team has sat out, but it's
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Speaker 1: going to be up to someone else to figure that out.
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Speaker 2: I think there's a fundamental just personnel issue with with ownership,
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Speaker 2: Like if ownership doesn't allow gms to go and spend money,
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Speaker 2: you can't do anything about that. And as good as
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Speaker 2: Mike Rizzo's been was like he probably you know, he's
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Speaker 2: the one that came out of this unscathed because they
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Speaker 2: won a World Series. But every year the organization, if
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Speaker 2: you go there at the end of the year, they
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Speaker 2: start cutting people. At the end of the year, they
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Speaker 2: cut coaches from their staff, they cut minor league coaches
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Speaker 2: out like it's a it's a fundamental it's an organization
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Speaker 2: that lacks fundamental like employee satisfaction, because I don't think
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Speaker 2: ownership really cares about what the product is on the field,
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Speaker 2: especially after they got there their World Series, So fans
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Speaker 2: should be pissed off when they don't make a move,
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Speaker 2: especially with the young core that they have in place.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they were always famous for trying to low ball managers.
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Speaker 1: Remember they almost had Bud Black they lowballed him. So anyway,
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Speaker 1: you can look all of that up. But we'll keep
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Speaker 1: everyone posted on the search here and see how it goes.
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Speaker 1: All Right, here we go, Tyler Glass. Now back on
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Speaker 1: foul Territory. Good to see you, Tyler, Crazy. Last few
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Speaker 1: days we were excited to talk to you about the
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Speaker 1: near no nos that are occurring. How you doing? And
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Speaker 1: do you know how many no hitters we've seen in
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Speaker 1: baseball this year?
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Speaker 3: I'm good, first of all. And no, is there zero? Right?
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Speaker 3: Isn't this like a like a no hitter season or something? Yeah? No,
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Speaker 3: it's a normal five.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, two thousand and five. Last time there was last
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Speaker 1: time there was not a no hitter in a season
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Speaker 1: was the year that the Chicago White Sox were led
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Speaker 1: by aj Prazunski and won a World Series.
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Speaker 3: Wait, how many an average year? Like two to one? Two?
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Speaker 2: Is there around two?
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Speaker 3: Two?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not two per year, but two the last
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Speaker 2: fifteen they're averaging about four until this year.
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Speaker 3: Oh damn, so well, way to go. Time.
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Speaker 2: You almost got one, but we'll take us through it.
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Speaker 1: Were you like please or were you like, I know
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Speaker 1: you're gonna cab me. I'm already at what was it
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Speaker 1: one oh five or something? Through seven?
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Speaker 3: I think had one oh seven.
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Speaker 4: Uh, the start before, I had no hit through six,
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Speaker 4: and I had like a normal pitch count or like
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Speaker 4: enough to do it, and then I my seventh innings sucked,
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Speaker 4: so I didn't do it then, and.
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Speaker 3: That time it probably felt a little bit more real.
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Speaker 3: I think this time I.
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Speaker 4: Had like fifty pitches in the first two innings, so
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Speaker 4: I kind of figured just after seven, with one hundred
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Speaker 4: and seven pitches, I figured they weren't kinna let me
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Speaker 4: keep going.
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Speaker 3: I would have loved to, but I just think, like with.
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Speaker 4: Playoffs coming up, and I guess like my last few
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Speaker 4: years of like injuries, I completely understand obviously to anytime
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Speaker 4: you're in the game, and like someone asked you if
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Speaker 4: you want to stay, and you're always going to say yes.
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Speaker 4: It's kind of I'll always be like, yeah, just let
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Speaker 4: me keep going. But I respect the decision to take
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Speaker 4: me out.
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Speaker 3: It's fine.
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Speaker 2: What did he did he even give you the option
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Speaker 2: or when you came off the mount was Doc?
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Speaker 3: Like?
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Speaker 2: Was Doc like, hey, good job, you're done?
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 4: More of that one, which I kind of expected him
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Speaker 4: to a little bit. But yeah, I didn't really have
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Speaker 4: like the option to go back out or anything. If
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Speaker 4: I did, I would have tried to argue my case.
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Speaker 4: But it is what it is. The decision was made.
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Speaker 2: What you missed, you kind of got, you got scratched
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Speaker 2: just a few days before. Does that go into the
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Speaker 2: decision for Doc as Doc like, hey, you know what,
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Speaker 2: your back was a little cranky. We're gonna definitely probably
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Speaker 2: I get it's one hundred and.
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Speaker 3: Seven, Yeah, I think maybe a little bit.
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Speaker 4: I think just with that one hundred and seven pitch
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Speaker 4: count playoffs coming up, I think it was like a
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Speaker 4: factor of everything. I think too, it's kind of weird,
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Speaker 4: like not all one hundred and seven is created equal.
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Speaker 3: I guess like there's been some starts where I'm.
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Speaker 4: Like eighty pitches in and it's like high stressed innings
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Speaker 4: and everything like that.
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Speaker 3: You can kind of feel it. But that game I
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Speaker 3: didn't have.
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Speaker 4: A ton of runners on or any like sort of
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Speaker 4: high stress endings, and it felt like a pretty I
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Speaker 4: don't know, I felt like I could have gone a
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Speaker 4: lot more, But I just think it's it kind of
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Speaker 4: depends on the innings and what the one hundred and
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Speaker 4: seven pitches were, I think, But yeah, it is what
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Speaker 4: it is.
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Speaker 3: We ended up winning, which is good. So that's that's
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Speaker 3: all I want.
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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, what's the max you could go?
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Speaker 3: What's the what do you think you could pitches? Yeah?
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Speaker 3: I think a lot. I say.
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Speaker 4: The thing that's weird about starting is like once you
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Speaker 4: get to a certain limit, like you don't feel like
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Speaker 4: you get into that like anaerobic state when you're at
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Speaker 4: a hundred pitches, you don't feel like you need to
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Speaker 4: stop throwing. There's certain games, maybe like a couple of year,
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Speaker 4: where you're really fighting yourself all game and there's like
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Speaker 4: stressful innings and you're feeling tired. But something around like
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Speaker 4: eighty five ninety pitches, something happens. You get like that
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Speaker 4: second wind, and in my brain, I feel like I
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Speaker 4: can throw a ton of pitches. But I think that's
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Speaker 4: more of like adrenaline and like that anaerobic thing kicking in.
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Speaker 4: And I don't know if that's like the best measurement,
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Speaker 4: but it just it feels like you can pitch forever.
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Speaker 3: Certain point.
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Speaker 4: I think a lot of starters would relate to that feeling.
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Speaker 4: But after a certain amount of pitches, it just feels
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Speaker 4: like you can just keep going and going and going.
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Speaker 2: So how much more sore are you then? Once you
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Speaker 2: hit that what'd you say, eighty to ninety pitch count
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Speaker 2: on the next day, Like is it longer recovery or
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Speaker 2: is it longer days of recovery or more sore the
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Speaker 2: next day.
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Speaker 4: It's kind of there's not like a formula to it,
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Speaker 4: I'd say, I think the only thing I can really
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Speaker 4: notice is if I have like I'll have some games
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Speaker 4: where on four or five innings and it's high stress,
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Speaker 4: like mechanics aren't as smooth. You're kind of fighting yourself,
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Speaker 4: Like every pitch feels a little bit different. It's kind
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Speaker 4: of a more of a mental grind to stay locked in,
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Speaker 4: and it's just like a lot of effort to manufacture
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Speaker 4: the same stuff, same velo, And then there's certain games
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Speaker 4: like two days ago and I pitched, where everything is
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Speaker 4: just kind of lined up, and I think, like the
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Speaker 4: stressful innings is the biggest thing for me, I guess,
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Speaker 4: so I think like this time around, I'm not I
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Speaker 4: feel really good.
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Speaker 3: I don't feel that sore.
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Speaker 4: But there starts previously where I'll be at like eighty
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Speaker 4: five pitches and like a ton of runners on in
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Speaker 4: the stretch a lot doing all that, and then you
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Speaker 4: feel a bit more sore. But this week I feel fine.
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Speaker 4: I also had like being scratched like nine days, so
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Speaker 4: I had a lot more time. But I feel totally normal,
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Speaker 4: probably more on like the better end of normal after
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Speaker 4: this one.
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Speaker 3: That's good.
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Speaker 2: That's good. You mentioned the key, though, and you're no
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Speaker 2: hitter or almost no hitter that you guys won because
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Speaker 2: not long ago, not many games before that, you guys
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Speaker 2: had eight and two thirds.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yamamoto, Harry was right there.
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Speaker 2: Halliday hits the home run and then all hell broke loose.
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Speaker 2: What were you guys thinking on the bench, because I
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Speaker 2: can't even imagine eight and two thirds you're thinking, hey, y'amamoto,
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Speaker 2: here we go, we got a no hitter, guys, and
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Speaker 2: then all of a sudden everyone's walking off. It was
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Speaker 2: It was one of the craziest games I've ever seen.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, they actually that was when I had like the
17:54
Speaker 4: little backspats and they sent me home to get image
17:56
Speaker 4: and everything was fine.
17:56
Speaker 3: But I wasn't actually in the dugout that game. From
17:59
Speaker 3: what I could tell on it was pretty I don't
18:02
Speaker 3: know that would that would have.
18:03
Speaker 4: Been pretty rough to sitting there for that, But yeah,
18:06
Speaker 4: it just seemed like everything that lasting what went wrong
18:09
Speaker 4: could have gone wrong and felt bad for Yama I
18:12
Speaker 4: think like the ultimate thing that sucks as like ending
18:15
Speaker 4: not winning that game.
18:16
Speaker 3: But I don't know.
18:17
Speaker 4: He he pitched really well, he looked really good. I mean, yeah,
18:21
Speaker 4: that was a It was a tough loss for sure.
18:22
Speaker 4: That's probably one of the worst ones I've seen or
18:26
Speaker 4: been a part of, just the feeling of course, like
18:28
Speaker 4: just what could have been and then how it ended
18:31
Speaker 4: up happening, just like the full one eighty.
18:34
Speaker 3: I've never really been a part of anything like that.
18:37
Speaker 2: So was it your fault? Did you move in your
18:38
Speaker 2: hotel room? Like were you were you sitting there on
18:41
Speaker 2: the as of your bed, and you're like, crap, I
18:43
Speaker 2: got a pee, but I can't because got a Okay,
18:46
Speaker 2: it's the eighth inning, come on, let's go. So did
18:49
Speaker 2: you hear anything of anybody that moved during the during
18:52
Speaker 2: the eighth ninth inning there where I was like it
18:55
Speaker 2: was your fault?
18:57
Speaker 4: No, honestly, I was so I was back home. I
19:00
Speaker 4: was just watching the game, and then I went back
19:02
Speaker 4: and like, I didn't. I didn't even want to ask
19:04
Speaker 4: any questions. It was already like a few days past,
19:07
Speaker 4: and then I don't want to.
19:07
Speaker 3: Bring it back up. So I wasn't. I didn't.
19:10
Speaker 4: I didn't bring it up again or talk about it.
19:13
Speaker 4: It was one of those things where we all saw
19:14
Speaker 4: what happened and we were like, let's just get that
19:16
Speaker 4: out of our mind and just continue to play baseball.
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20:21
Speaker 2: Are you a no talk guy? Are you a no
20:23
Speaker 2: talk during a no hitter guy? Or are you like
20:27
Speaker 2: when you were in the sixth seventh inning, were you
20:29
Speaker 2: don't talk to me guy? Or were you It's okay
20:31
Speaker 2: to still talk to me and we can talk about
20:34
Speaker 2: me having a no hitter.
20:36
Speaker 3: That's fine.
20:37
Speaker 4: I don't think anyone would come up and talk about
20:38
Speaker 4: a no hitter just because, like there are certain people
20:42
Speaker 4: who maybe you can't put now. Not really, I'd rather
20:44
Speaker 4: just keep it normal, you know, Like I think everyone's
20:46
Speaker 4: already aware.
20:47
Speaker 3: Of what's going on. And I'm not a very superstitious person.
20:49
Speaker 4: So I do I believe that if you do or
20:53
Speaker 4: don't talk about it. I don't think anyone has that
20:54
Speaker 4: much power to like dictate a no hitter from like
20:56
Speaker 4: a supercision. But I'm a big like in between hitnings.
21:01
Speaker 4: I don't sitting a dug out of ton. I like,
21:03
Speaker 4: I'm a big pacer, Like I don't really like sitting down,
21:06
Speaker 4: and I like to do like keep my heart rate
21:08
Speaker 4: up a little bit.
21:09
Speaker 3: I don't like to just sit there.
21:10
Speaker 4: So I'm usually in the tunnel doing stuff like moving
21:14
Speaker 4: around whatever it is I need to do, like there
21:16
Speaker 4: a gun, whatever it is. So I'm kind of down
21:19
Speaker 4: there talking to like coaches will come in, but I'm
21:23
Speaker 4: not like pacing around in the dugout. It looks kind
21:26
Speaker 4: of crazy with me walking back and forth, so I
21:28
Speaker 4: just do it in the tunnel.
21:30
Speaker 2: All right, Well, we have two catchers on here, and
21:33
Speaker 2: there is one person that can dictate whether it's a
21:36
Speaker 2: no hitter or.
21:36
Speaker 3: Not, you know what I mean, not from words from
21:39
Speaker 3: I know it's of course, yeah.
21:41
Speaker 2: Hitch calling Ben roor fans out there. He was with
21:44
Speaker 2: the team for like one minute, like his uniform was
21:47
Speaker 2: still drying, like yeah, and he goes out and almost
21:50
Speaker 2: gets two no hitters in three games. How hard is
21:55
Speaker 2: it to make that transition to a new catcher, And
21:58
Speaker 2: how crazy is it that he came in and did
22:02
Speaker 2: this for you guys in these three days.
22:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's nuts.
22:07
Speaker 4: I actually met him last year at a wedding and
22:09
Speaker 4: he was with the Rays and I had some mutual
22:11
Speaker 4: friends with him, and I got to know him relatively well,
22:13
Speaker 4: like the night we talked.
22:15
Speaker 3: And he's like super engaging.
22:16
Speaker 4: I think he takes catching obviously very seriously, Like he's
22:19
Speaker 4: always been known for his glove and his pitch calling,
22:21
Speaker 4: and for him to come in and like fit in,
22:23
Speaker 4: he's very personable and like fits in.
22:26
Speaker 3: Well, it's hard to like jump around teams and stuff
22:29
Speaker 3: like that. But he came in kind of had the
22:30
Speaker 3: feeling of like.
22:31
Speaker 4: Oh, this guy's been here a while, he's very comfortable,
22:33
Speaker 4: got to talking to him, came in, caught a really
22:36
Speaker 4: good game for Yama, and then it was just not
22:39
Speaker 4: we got on the same page quick. Like first inning,
22:43
Speaker 4: we had some pitch calling, some setup stuff, and then
22:45
Speaker 4: like as the game went on, we got into a
22:46
Speaker 4: really good flow and we were on the same page
22:49
Speaker 4: the whole time. How my stuff was like leaking, Like
22:51
Speaker 4: early on, I was yanking four seams and sliders, so
22:54
Speaker 4: we kind of reverted to like a sinker. He started
22:58
Speaker 4: shifting int arieties with the sinker to try to get
23:00
Speaker 4: me more online, and that kind of started getting my
23:02
Speaker 4: slider back on. My four seemed sort of sucked the
23:04
Speaker 4: whole game, but he kind of navigated me back into
23:07
Speaker 4: his zone really well. And then last night she hand
23:10
Speaker 4: pitched and had a no hitter into the sixth. I
23:14
Speaker 4: guess that wasn't him, but like just.
23:16
Speaker 3: In general, like with the no hitters and stuff, it's
23:19
Speaker 3: kind of wild. But yeah, I really loved throwing him.
23:21
Speaker 3: He was He was kind of awesome. M that's good.
23:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, what do you haven't talked to him since
23:29
Speaker 1: he pitched in Tampa?
23:30
Speaker 3: Didn't you pitch in Tampa.
23:31
Speaker 2: Not that long ago?
23:33
Speaker 3: No, I pitched what the series before I was in Tampa.
23:37
Speaker 3: I didn't pitch that series, though, you pitch.
23:38
Speaker 2: What was it like back in Tampa in hot your
23:41
Speaker 2: old in your old stomping grounds, you didn't have to hitch?
23:44
Speaker 3: I guess that's yeah.
23:46
Speaker 4: It was the outdoor stadium in the summertime was crazy.
23:49
Speaker 4: That was the hottest game.
23:50
Speaker 3: I think any of us have played. But it was
23:52
Speaker 3: cool to be back home.
23:53
Speaker 4: And just to see everyone, like the staff and everyone
23:55
Speaker 4: walking around like I hadn't been.
23:57
Speaker 3: Back there in a long time. It gave me like
23:59
Speaker 3: a tribute. That was really cool. I got to go back.
24:03
Speaker 4: Home and sleep at home and see family and everything.
24:05
Speaker 4: So it's a good, like little reset. I think anytime
24:08
Speaker 4: you can go back and like sleep in your own
24:10
Speaker 4: bed during the season, it kind of gives you this nice,
24:12
Speaker 4: like at home feeling and you've just been gone for
24:15
Speaker 4: so long.
24:15
Speaker 3: But I enjoyed it. I like playing there or the
24:18
Speaker 3: town itself. All right.
24:21
Speaker 2: Every single freaking night we have some issue with a
24:23
Speaker 2: PitchCom every night, yeah something. Have you ever had an
24:28
Speaker 2: issue like you Darbis had the other day where he
24:31
Speaker 2: was like pushing sinker. He was like over here pushing sinker,
24:35
Speaker 2: pushing sinker, and Felix for me didn't hear it or something,
24:40
Speaker 2: and he called curveball and so you was like, sure,
24:44
Speaker 2: curveball and then gave up a ninger.
24:46
Speaker 4: Now I've had the only thing I don't call my
24:48
Speaker 4: own pitches or like, I don't have a like a
24:50
Speaker 4: plate or whatever the thing is called. I just kind
24:52
Speaker 4: of like will shake off with the catcher. The only
24:54
Speaker 4: thing that sucks sometimes is the pitchclock when there's like
24:56
Speaker 4: a guy on, and like I'll get a sign kind
24:58
Speaker 4: of late and you're trying to shake back to a
25:02
Speaker 4: sign you want and there's not enough time. And there's
25:04
Speaker 4: been multiple times where I'm like at three seconds and
25:06
Speaker 4: then like the last sign, I just.
25:08
Speaker 3: Go all right whatever, and I'll just throw it.
25:10
Speaker 4: And I'm like trying to get to like a slider,
25:11
Speaker 4: let's say, and I've got two seconds left, and it's
25:14
Speaker 4: like he just happens to be on sinker or fast
25:17
Speaker 4: by and just.
25:17
Speaker 3: Go find whatever, Like I'll get it out of the zone.
25:19
Speaker 4: Or I'll put it where I want to try to
25:21
Speaker 4: put it. But it happens kind of a lot. There's
25:23
Speaker 4: a guy on.
25:24
Speaker 3: You can step off, but there's no one on.
25:25
Speaker 4: There's been some times with like three two two two
25:30
Speaker 4: where it's like I can't. I just have to throw
25:32
Speaker 4: whatever I can throw. It just sucks too, because like
25:35
Speaker 4: hitters will get a time out in at bat and
25:38
Speaker 4: I always figured we'd get like one or two PitchCom
25:42
Speaker 4: things an inning, and like I think after a certain
25:44
Speaker 4: amount of time, you can't step off and be like
25:45
Speaker 4: my pitch COM's not working, or like it's not even
25:48
Speaker 4: it's you can't get to the sign in time. I
25:49
Speaker 4: wish we had like one of those an inning to
25:52
Speaker 4: try to get on the same page because it's so
25:54
Speaker 4: many times it's three two.
25:55
Speaker 3: With no one on and you're like, all right, now
25:56
Speaker 3: I gotta throw a pitch I don't want to throw,
25:59
Speaker 3: so there.
25:59
Speaker 2: Be a timeout, Like, is there is there a way
26:02
Speaker 2: to like say, oh, well, this could cause an injury,
26:06
Speaker 2: this could cause Obviously you could be like, oh I
26:08
Speaker 2: don't want to throw that pitch. That could cause a run.
26:11
Speaker 2: Majorly baseball doesn't care about that, But is there a
26:13
Speaker 2: way that you could as a player's union bring it
26:18
Speaker 2: up and say, hey, pitchers should have a timeout, which
26:21
Speaker 2: I think they should, but you know, from a starting
26:23
Speaker 2: pitcher it means more.
26:26
Speaker 4: Yeah, we've I think a lot of guys have talked
26:28
Speaker 4: about that, like if a hitter gets the time out
26:30
Speaker 4: in that bat, which I understand as well, Like I
26:32
Speaker 4: think we should be able to have a timeout. And
26:35
Speaker 4: there's a couple of different things I wish we could change,
26:37
Speaker 4: like the pitch clock, for the warm up in between innings.
26:39
Speaker 4: I wish it was a little bit longer, said, It
26:41
Speaker 4: takes you a little bit of time to get out there.
26:43
Speaker 3: You have time for like five or six warm ups.
26:46
Speaker 4: And I think for me, especially like my first couple
26:48
Speaker 4: of pitches are always slower in the inning just because
26:50
Speaker 4: I don't feel like I'm fully ready to go and
26:52
Speaker 4: I'm like in the tunnel doing stuff. I know a
26:55
Speaker 4: couple of guys have some issues with that, and like
26:57
Speaker 4: I do think we should get like at least a
26:58
Speaker 4: time out in that bat. And I think in the
27:01
Speaker 4: in the whole scope of trying to save time for games,
27:04
Speaker 4: like a little bit extra time and some timeouts, it
27:06
Speaker 4: is probably gonna add like a minute two minutes to
27:09
Speaker 4: the overall time.
27:10
Speaker 3: Of the games. I don't know, I think it would
27:12
Speaker 3: be kind of nice.
27:20
Speaker 1: Sorry, Krats, I thought you had another one.
27:22
Speaker 3: Uh.
27:22
Speaker 1: I want to ask you about uh a dude that
27:25
Speaker 1: just returned to the team who seems to have an
27:27
Speaker 1: impeccable record when he's playing for the Dodgers, and that's
27:31
Speaker 1: Max Muncy. Do you see it and our guys joking
27:34
Speaker 1: about it at this point because it's been going on
27:36
Speaker 1: for a few years now.
27:38
Speaker 4: When what are you saying, like when playing when we
27:40
Speaker 4: have like a good team record. I I agrea the
27:43
Speaker 4: guy like grinds out at bats, good ops, like he's good,
27:48
Speaker 4: he's a I always remember too pitching against him, Like
27:50
Speaker 4: he's a just a good hitter, like great on bass,
27:54
Speaker 4: grinds out at bats.
27:56
Speaker 3: Just yeah, I don't.
27:57
Speaker 4: I don't know if the I'm sure they're correlated a
27:59
Speaker 4: bit for sure, Like we've got a really good team.
28:01
Speaker 3: There's a lot of guys on our team that I'm
28:02
Speaker 3: sure if they play, our record is good.
28:04
Speaker 4: But yeah, like when he's in the lineup, it's a
28:07
Speaker 4: noticeable difference in my opinion for sure.
28:12
Speaker 1: Last one for you, this one popped up about a
28:15
Speaker 1: week and a half ago. What did you think of
28:17
Speaker 1: the Framber Valdez cross up situation?
28:22
Speaker 3: Yeah?
28:22
Speaker 4: That was that was pretty not really I don't think
28:24
Speaker 4: I've ever seen anything like that.
28:25
Speaker 3: I'm sure have you guys seen it more?
28:27
Speaker 4: I guess like maybe when you've played, was there more
28:30
Speaker 4: of that or like no, I don't know, and I don't.
28:32
Speaker 4: I also will say I don't know. I haven't talked
28:35
Speaker 4: to him. I don't actually know if it was intentional,
28:38
Speaker 4: like it potentially seems that way, but I don't have
28:42
Speaker 4: like definitive answers on.
28:44
Speaker 3: Any of that, so I don't know. But that was weird.
28:47
Speaker 3: I'd never really seen anything like that.
28:50
Speaker 2: Do you ever have you ever thought about doing that?
28:52
Speaker 2: Have you ever been like so mad at a catcher
28:54
Speaker 2: Let's say it was. I'm not saying you said it,
28:57
Speaker 2: I'm saying it was intentional in my opinion, Have you
29:00
Speaker 2: ever been that mad at a catcher that you're like,
29:04
Speaker 2: this is what I'm gonna do.
29:06
Speaker 3: No, not at all.
29:07
Speaker 4: I also think like my attitude towards ketchers just to
29:10
Speaker 4: be different, like because when I pitch, I'm a big
29:12
Speaker 4: like I'll throw some thirty eight foot curveballs, I'll spike
29:14
Speaker 4: some fifty four foot fastball like I'm more like my
29:17
Speaker 4: bad so I'm not really trying to It's hard enough
29:20
Speaker 4: catching me. I don't think I've ever gotten that at
29:22
Speaker 4: a catcher like any No, not really. I think there's
29:26
Speaker 4: been times I still would do anything like you get
29:27
Speaker 4: mad at an umpire. Used to see like dudes call
29:31
Speaker 4: curveball or whatever, like the catcher will drop down, the
29:33
Speaker 4: heater will be like a heater up at the at
29:35
Speaker 4: the umpire that makes more sense to me. Still not
29:38
Speaker 4: gonna do it, don't like it, but like that type
29:41
Speaker 4: of thing makes more sense to me than doing it
29:44
Speaker 4: to your catcher, for sure.
29:45
Speaker 3: I no, I've never wanted to do that.
29:47
Speaker 2: Ever, you summed it up and you said you would
29:51
Speaker 2: automatically be hey, I'm bad, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm
29:54
Speaker 2: sure you've crossed a guy up somewhere along the way.
29:56
Speaker 3: And.
29:58
Speaker 2: Isn't to turn your back on the guy and walk
30:00
Speaker 2: walk off the back of the mount. It's usually hey,
30:01
Speaker 2: are you okay? That's what I generally what most pitchers
30:04
Speaker 2: do is hey are you okay? Not turn your back
30:06
Speaker 2: and walk away.
30:08
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a rough one, especially being a catcher, Like
30:10
Speaker 4: there's a lot of stuff going on.
30:12
Speaker 3: It's a hard exposition.
30:15
Speaker 2: And when I was on the rays with you and
30:18
Speaker 2: Snell talk about your blocking practice, you too, Yeah, yard
30:24
Speaker 2: darts up there and just like look around like probably
30:28
Speaker 2: gonna do it again.
30:30
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, I'm good for like five a game. Absolutely,
30:32
Speaker 3: Like if I'm trying to tunnel a low heater with
30:34
Speaker 3: a curve ball, it's like that's gonna be a in
30:37
Speaker 3: front of the like on the dirt type of bounce.
30:39
Speaker 4: Situation like on the plate, so it's not gonna Yeah,
30:41
Speaker 4: it's it's tough. I can only imagine trying to catch
30:44
Speaker 4: me and like, I'm not exactly Greg Mannix out there,
30:46
Speaker 4: so it's our hearty hard enough and then having to
30:47
Speaker 4: worry about if I'm gonna like intentionally throw a ball
30:51
Speaker 4: at you.
30:51
Speaker 3: That might be kind of tough to handle.
30:53
Speaker 2: Kyle Snyder made it easy. Kyle Snyder was just like, Oh,
30:56
Speaker 2: you don't need to go on the edges, you just
30:59
Speaker 2: stay right down the middle. I was like, I was like,
31:03
Speaker 2: it definitely worked.
31:03
Speaker 3: But you're you're getting you're getting forty.
31:06
Speaker 2: Eight foot curveballs from Snell as he's calling like different
31:09
Speaker 2: pitches on different locations and times, and you're getting a
31:12
Speaker 2: ball in the neck. And then they're bringing in young
31:15
Speaker 2: Jose Alvarado Diego Castillo out of the bullpen and then
31:20
Speaker 2: Drake throwing that like whatever, that lefty, right handed change
31:23
Speaker 2: up ball. So yeah, there was some There are some
31:26
Speaker 2: dudes slinging some rocks up there.
31:28
Speaker 3: For sure. Yeah, that was a wild year. That was
31:31
Speaker 3: one of the craziest bullpens I've ever seen.
31:34
Speaker 4: And right Chaz the slider King was on that team,
31:37
Speaker 4: right oh yeah, yeah, Chazz, Yeah.
31:44
Speaker 3: We had some crazy arm angles on that year.
31:46
Speaker 1: It was not yes, young Jose Alvarado. That was scary
31:50
Speaker 1: even to watch as a fan.
31:53
Speaker 3: That was the.
31:54
Speaker 2: Most miserable, miserable four pitches I ever caught, because it
31:59
Speaker 2: was four fans bolts and they all went different directions.
32:02
Speaker 2: Thank goodness, it was ball four and Kevin Cash came
32:04
Speaker 2: walking out.
32:08
Speaker 1: Good stuff. Well, Tyler, good to see man, good to
32:10
Speaker 1: catch up. Keep doing your thing. We'll catch you soon.
32:12
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, thanks guys,