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Chuck & Buck 4-24 Hour 4: Hugh Millen is in-studio · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: All right, nine o'clock hour here on a Friday of
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  Speaker 1: Draft weekend. Oh man, it's been it's been a great month,
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  Speaker 1: and here we are. I did tell Ashley though, like
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  Speaker 1: I think I'm tired. It's I said to you, Wait,
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  Speaker 1: how was yesterday? Only yesterday? It feels like it was
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  Speaker 1: a week ago. I don't normally, yeah, i'll crash like
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  Speaker 1: Friday on the drive home, but usually like the energy
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  Speaker 1: of the show and being live on a microphone, I
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  Speaker 1: don't feel that. But I think the Draftmas Holiday, even
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  Speaker 1: though I'm still very enthused, Yeah, I think I'm I
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  Speaker 1: think I'm white days the rest. I think I'm plumb, Tucker.
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  Speaker 1: I'm pretty excited for my coffee after the show. Yeah, well,
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  Speaker 1: I'm kind of excited from my nap. It's Ashley, Ryan
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  Speaker 1: and Chuck Powell with you here nine o'clock hour, and
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  Speaker 1: of course our Draftmas holiday. I mean, holidays really about
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  Speaker 1: friends and family. And so we have Hugh Millon here
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  Speaker 1: with us for the nine o'clock hour here on this Friday,
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  Speaker 1: we recap Day number one of the Draft. We preview
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  Speaker 1: a little bit Day number two for you as well,
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  Speaker 1: and so our QB one right here next to me
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  Speaker 1: here on kJ R.
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing great, good morning, good to be with you.
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  Speaker 2: Fun last night, yeah, nice, always fun. Yeah, thank you. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I think that there wasn't the intrigue with
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  Speaker 2: the six quarterbacks or the Sidor Sanders type of but
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  Speaker 2: there's always stories that.
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  Speaker 1: Emerge as you go along. Yeah, I am still thirty
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  Speaker 1: two kids every year in the first round. They'd get
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  Speaker 1: to realize their dream and still trade down, trade ups
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  Speaker 1: and all sorts of drama. That's great. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know the Rams were in the middle
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  Speaker 2: of some drama. I know we'll get to that. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: I can't wait to get into that with you.
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  Speaker 1: But we should start with the local football team and
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  Speaker 1: Jadarian Price. So they end up sticking and picking at
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  Speaker 1: thirty two. So what did you think of the result?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, first of all, I think there was
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  Speaker 2: It struck me watching the press conference, and I feel
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  Speaker 2: like I should preface this. You know, I'm from Seattle
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  Speaker 2: or I can go back my sports memories in the
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  Speaker 2: early seventies, well over fifty years, and I think there's
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  Speaker 2: six major teams that we've had with the four professionals
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  Speaker 2: and then Husky football and basketball. If you take all
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  Speaker 2: the coaches in there. Mike McDonald's in my top three.
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  Speaker 2: I love the dude. I would not trade him for
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  Speaker 2: a not one coach in this league. And I could
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  Speaker 2: say the same about Schnyder. I think these guys, I
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  Speaker 2: like them. I think they are at the top of
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  Speaker 2: their profession. But when I watched them after the uh
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  Speaker 2: you know, in the press conference, and the first thing
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  Speaker 2: that Mike McDonald, well excuse me, uh Schneider was talking
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  Speaker 2: about is, hey, we want you know, we thought there
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  Speaker 2: was a lot of trades going on, you know that
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna have some options there. Apparently they all dried
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  Speaker 2: up and for him then to say, well, we took
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  Speaker 2: chadarium price.
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  Speaker 1: Here's what it seems to me.
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  Speaker 2: First of all, if we just structure this logically, if
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  Speaker 2: you on a scale of one to ten, you love
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  Speaker 2: the player at a ten, then you won't try and
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  Speaker 2: trade out of that position. So you cannot say that
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  Speaker 2: they're at a ten right on price. They might love him,
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  Speaker 2: they might he may have been the number one on
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  Speaker 2: the board, But what it seems like there's eleven different
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  Speaker 2: positions in the draft that we talked about. Quarterback, running back,
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  Speaker 2: wide receiver, tight end, interior offensive line, and offensive tackles.
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  Speaker 2: That's six categories on offense, five on defense interior defensive lineman, edges, linebacker, safeties, corners.
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  Speaker 2: For you to believe that he was the number one
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  Speaker 2: on the board, you'd have to say that that they
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  Speaker 2: hit the one and eleven.
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  Speaker 1: I'm dark.
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  Speaker 2: What seems more logical to me is that they wanted
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  Speaker 2: trade partners at the end of the round, that they
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  Speaker 2: that their their enthusiasm is less than a ten, might
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  Speaker 2: be a nine. In fact, I'm absolutely I absolutely think
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  Speaker 2: they really liked this guy, but.
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  Speaker 1: They wanted to trade out.
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  Speaker 2: And then when they didn't have a trading partner because
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  Speaker 2: of what transpired with K nine, their their biggest need
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  Speaker 2: was a running back, and it appears they just said, hey,
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  Speaker 2: we got to take the best available player at a
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  Speaker 2: position we need, and it was priced so at an event.
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  Speaker 2: So I think that that point, notwithstanding, I have looked
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  Speaker 2: at the game tape of every single rush attempt that
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  Speaker 2: he had last year, every time they threw him the football,
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  Speaker 2: and and you know, so I have an now evaluation there.
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  Speaker 2: But that's my initial thoughts about it is it seemed.
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  Speaker 1: A little wonky. I agree. In the press conference there
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  Speaker 1: wasn't the enthusiasm that there normally is.
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  Speaker 2: And I get you just went through it, so you
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  Speaker 2: probably hadn't wrapped your brain around how we want to
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  Speaker 2: present this.
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  Speaker 1: Because you had the last pick of the night. But yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it didn't seem a little strange that you started with
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  Speaker 1: explaining why you didn't do something else.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and and if you try and the trying to
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  Speaker 2: do something else part, you're you're putting that risk your
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  Speaker 2: percent chance that you're going to get jendarium price, which
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  Speaker 2: necessarily what follows from that is that you weren't at
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  Speaker 2: a ten. Now I'm totally ready to say they're at
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  Speaker 2: a nine. Yeah, and I believe they're at a nine,
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  Speaker 2: call it an eight or nine. I believe they were right,
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  Speaker 2: you know, but you can't tell me they're at a ten,
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  Speaker 2: because otherwise they wouldn't. They would have just said, we
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  Speaker 2: ain't messing around with this. Put you know, here's the name.
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  Speaker 2: Take that dude run up to the post sprint.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And I think it also says they do
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  Speaker 1: to need and they do recognize running back was in need,
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  Speaker 1: thank you, which was another thing. And then the third
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  Speaker 1: thing that I would say is they are an organization
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  Speaker 1: there are a lot of organizations that I do believe
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  Speaker 1: subscribe to the running backs are. I'm not going to
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  Speaker 1: overdraft a running back that's not the Seahawks, That's not
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  Speaker 1: John Schnighter. Rashad Penny was a first rounder. Nobody had
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  Speaker 1: him projected as a first rounder, and you know they
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  Speaker 1: had sharbon Ay and the second nobody had him projected
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  Speaker 1: as a second rounder except for John. So they are
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  Speaker 1: one of the organizations that has been willing to, if
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  Speaker 1: you want to use it as a phrase, overdraft a
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  Speaker 1: running back and so. And I'm not saying that they
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  Speaker 1: did that with Price last night, but I'm not surprised
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  Speaker 1: that where others might say, don't take a running back
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  Speaker 1: that high, John Schnier certainly does not feel good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, he's taken three running backs in the second round,
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  Speaker 2: Chris Christ and Michael Kenneth Walker, Zach Sharboney is taken
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  Speaker 2: one in the third round, CJ Prosize two in the fourth, fourth,
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  Speaker 2: Robert turmoan and DJ Dallas. One in the fifth, Alex
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  Speaker 2: Collins who had success with the Ravens obviously more so here,
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  Speaker 2: and then uh Alex con Spencer where in the sixth,
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  Speaker 2: and then everybody talks about Chris Carson the seventh but
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  Speaker 2: there was he was one of five other uh, one
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  Speaker 2: of five four others in the seventh round, and and
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  Speaker 2: the other names you're you know, do nothing.
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  Speaker 1: So so it's it's been a mixed bag.
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  Speaker 2: But I think that with the the uh, the loss
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  Speaker 2: of canine, they were kind of forcing a position like
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  Speaker 2: they can't just you know, wouldn't it be a hell
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  Speaker 2: of a coincidence that the the number one guy left
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  Speaker 2: on their board was a running back out of eleven
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  Speaker 2: different positions and that's the position that that you needed
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  Speaker 2: the most. I think that'd be a hell of a coincident.
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  Speaker 1: But at any event, at any event, there's a kind
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  Speaker 1: of player did we get?
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  Speaker 2: So look, uh, as I said, why every play, every
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  Speaker 2: every carry and catch, and the dude has some serious
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  Speaker 2: lateral quickness when he's in the hole and he sees
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  Speaker 2: a defender flash at him and he needs to get
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  Speaker 2: sideways and accelerate. It's it's it's smooth, it's quick. There's
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  Speaker 2: an acceleration there that belies his ten yards split, which
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  Speaker 2: was one point sixty one. He was in the twenty
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  Speaker 2: eighth percentile on the ten yard split. That's that's the
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  Speaker 2: first ten yards of your forty when you run into
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  Speaker 2: the combine. For it's worth. K nine was in the
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  Speaker 2: ninety six percentile. Uh and and so, but that doesn't
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  Speaker 2: show on tape. He looks quicker than that number.
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  Speaker 1: Just said.
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  Speaker 2: I think his vision, vision, his backside cutting, he's hitting
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  Speaker 2: it and he doesn't have to. There's very few runs
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  Speaker 2: where I thought he gathered his feet to cut. I
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  Speaker 2: thought he was able to run and cut at near
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  Speaker 2: at her near field full speed, which what we want. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: there's a there's a couple. I'd say that took a
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  Speaker 2: long time to to to generate is his direction, but
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  Speaker 2: that those were few and far between. I thought he
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  Speaker 2: ran inside the tackles. Well you know the idea he
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  Speaker 2: you know, he comes on and he says outside zone
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  Speaker 2: is my bread and butter. But he ran more inside
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  Speaker 2: than he ran outside. And and and now here's an
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  Speaker 2: important point about in watching the tape, he only had
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  Speaker 2: one rush the entire season from the quarterback under center.
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  Speaker 2: They were exclusively shotgun the Seahawks. They had one hundred
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  Speaker 2: and forty five from shotgun. And my computer went down
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  Speaker 2: in here. But it's like I think, I think numbers
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  Speaker 2: right about four fifty. So they were twenty sixth the league.
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  Speaker 2: In the league, the Seas were twenty six in the
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  Speaker 2: league and running from shotgun fifth in the league from
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  Speaker 2: running under center, and so when they ran the outside zone,
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna get a little XI ANDOI. Okay, so let's
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  Speaker 2: talk about the difference between how the Seahawks would run
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  Speaker 2: it and how Notre Dame ran it. If Sam Darnold
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  Speaker 2: is under center and the halfback's right behind him, that's
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  Speaker 2: what's called the dot position. Okay, it's a neutral position.
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  Speaker 2: So the running back is in line with the center
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  Speaker 2: and the quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: He got me.
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  Speaker 2: Let's say we're going stretch right outside zone. Right, So
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  Speaker 2: now at the snap of the ball, the running back
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  Speaker 2: is gonna go. He's reading the the n man on
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  Speaker 2: the Lion Scream's block. He's trying to hook that outside defender.
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  Speaker 2: If he can hook him, he's gonna bounce it. If
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  Speaker 2: he can't, then he reads the next guy in. And
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  Speaker 2: at that point there's just a series of reads. You
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  Speaker 2: got to make the read by your third step. But
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  Speaker 2: when you're in the dot position, meaning right behind the quarterback,
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  Speaker 2: you're you're getting to that point of attack faster because
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  Speaker 2: of your original alignment the way Notre Dame ran theirs.
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  Speaker 2: They started the season, and they did some from pistol
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  Speaker 2: where he's behind a little deeper, but that's that's essentially
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  Speaker 2: you could call that a dot or neutral position and
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  Speaker 2: uh and and there's a They did a couple of
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  Speaker 2: quick pitch pitches with pin and poll that don't don't
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  Speaker 2: really apply. But after the first couple of weeks, everything
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  Speaker 2: was with price off set, so that if they're going
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  Speaker 2: stretch right, price was off set behind the guard like
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  Speaker 2: in the B gap, a little bit outside of the guard,
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  Speaker 2: and so he has a longer time to get to
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  Speaker 2: the point of attack, which means his reads are much
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  Speaker 2: more likely to cause him to go north and get
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  Speaker 2: up the field there as opposent. Now there was there's
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  Speaker 2: some time, there's a text A and M. There's there's
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  Speaker 2: a stretch where he got to the sideline. There was,
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  Speaker 2: there's occasional times where he had a stretch. But because
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  Speaker 2: of his alignment being away from the point of attack,
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  Speaker 2: his reed structure is just different and how how the
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  Speaker 2: offensive lineman flows, so he'll have to make a faster
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  Speaker 2: decision when when he gets to to the CEP.
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  Speaker 1: My response to that would be, I think the average
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  Speaker 1: sports mind I'm raising my hand or football mind would
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  Speaker 1: would ask this. I get what you're saying, and there's
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  Speaker 1: going to have to be an adjustment. But I'd be
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  Speaker 1: a lot more worried about the quarterback making that adjustment
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  Speaker 1: than a running back. To me, it would sound like
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  Speaker 1: that's something that a good running back, good athlete could
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  Speaker 1: make a quick adjustment to him I right or along.
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  Speaker 2: Well, so for the quarterback, if you're in shotgun and
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  Speaker 2: and and I'm going stretch right, so I'm in shotgun,
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  Speaker 2: the running backs to my left, I just hold the ball.
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  Speaker 2: I just hold the ball out and and if there's
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  Speaker 2: a read involved trying to hold the backside in, then
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  Speaker 2: I'm reading the back side and and if he crashes down,
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  Speaker 2: I might pull it, which Notre Dame quarterbacks did. But
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  Speaker 2: from a quarterback standpoint, if he's off set, there's no there.
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  Speaker 2: You know, there's no issue. If if it's in pistol,
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  Speaker 2: if I'm in shotgun, it's pistol. That what's That's what
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  Speaker 2: the running back behind me? Those are easy steps. I
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  Speaker 2: just you know, it's fit stretch right. I just angled
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  Speaker 2: uh backwards into my right under center. You can you
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  Speaker 2: you kind of gotta you gotta hump in a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: You gotta get get the ball and sprint to the
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  Speaker 2: uh to the the spot where you're giving him the ball,
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  Speaker 2: and and stretch wide zone originated as an idea to
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  Speaker 2: to keep the play action alive like in the old days.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you know O. J.
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  Speaker 2: Simpson, you know, student body right or what what have
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  Speaker 2: you. You just tossed the ball. If you want to get wide,
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  Speaker 2: you just you just toss the half back the ball.
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  Speaker 2: When what the reason stretch came into the the the
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  Speaker 2: whole equation is that now you know you're you're springing
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  Speaker 2: out there, but you still have the ball, and if
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  Speaker 2: you don't give him the ball, then you can you
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  Speaker 2: can loop back around, you know, you know outside zoned.
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  Speaker 2: Alex Gibbs was the godfather of this with the Broncos
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  Speaker 2: with John Elway handing the ball to Tourell Davis. So
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  Speaker 2: if you go stretch left, Elway is gonna He's gonna
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  Speaker 2: sprint over to to as if the ball is going
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  Speaker 2: to the left.
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  Speaker 1: Side of the offense.
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  Speaker 2: But then if if he doesn't give the ball to
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  Speaker 2: Terrell Davis, the whole the defense is all flown, but
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  Speaker 2: he's holding onto the ball, always holding onto the ball
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  Speaker 2: more for a longer period of time than if he
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  Speaker 2: would have just turned around and.
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  Speaker 1: Tossed it Terrell Davis.
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  Speaker 2: Because right, so, now when at the point where he's
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  Speaker 2: he doesn't give the ball to Tororell Davis. Now he
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  Speaker 2: turns out and he has a bootleg, and he has
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  Speaker 2: a naked keeper to the right, and he throws the
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  Speaker 2: ball out in the flatter and he threw threw a
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  Speaker 2: touchdown to Rod Smith in the Super Bowl when he
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  Speaker 2: was the Super Bowl MVY against the Falcons off of
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  Speaker 2: that boot and so that they're the quarterbacks part of it,
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  Speaker 2: I think is different than what I'm trying to say
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  Speaker 2: about the running back.
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  Speaker 1: The running back, I'm not talking about the part. I'm
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  Speaker 1: talking about the transition from I ran an offense where
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  Speaker 1: the quarterback was not under center all that much. I
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  Speaker 1: would think that'd be a difficult transition for a quarterback
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  Speaker 1: to make to be in an offense where I'm under
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  Speaker 1: center more now where versus a running.
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  Speaker 2: Back, well, I think I think here's here's how the
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  Speaker 2: stretch is going to change for Jenarium Price. If he's
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  Speaker 2: going stretch right tight and let's say he's running the
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  Speaker 2: tight end, but he lines up we'll call it just
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  Speaker 2: right behind the left guard or even in the b
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  Speaker 2: gap between the guard.
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  Speaker 1: And the tackle.
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  Speaker 2: That means he has a longer path to go to
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  Speaker 2: get to that tight end. Now that that spot's going
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  Speaker 2: to move once the ball snap because the players are moving.
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  Speaker 2: But if you just say the spot, it's going to
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  Speaker 2: take him longer to get there, so his read is
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  Speaker 2: more more likely to force him to go up north
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  Speaker 2: and and not get the stretch. Like for him to
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  Speaker 2: get the stretch from that alignment way over by the
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  Speaker 2: left car, he's got a he's got to run eight
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  Speaker 2: miles to get to the tight end. And by that time,
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  Speaker 2: the idea that you would have the the defensive end
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  Speaker 2: hooked so that you actually stretch it and get it
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  Speaker 2: to the boundary, that's far less likely. But if you're
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  Speaker 2: aligned behind the center, now you're closer to that point
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  Speaker 2: of attack, and there's a there's a better chance. Where
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  Speaker 2: you say you read that tight end, AJ Barner gets
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  Speaker 2: that hook and you go, oh, I think I can
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  Speaker 2: get that. I think I can get I think I
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  Speaker 2: can get to the sideline on that and and then
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  Speaker 2: the act of being able to get outside and actually
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  Speaker 2: turn it into a stretch, a wide play that now
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  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, the linebackers are flowing faster because
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  Speaker 2: they go whoa, these guys are a threat to actually
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  Speaker 2: get to the outside and and that's the construct of
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  Speaker 2: the why zone.
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  Speaker 1: So I think.
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  Speaker 2: That that notre dame the way they did it. They
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  Speaker 2: delayed it, and he was more likely to go up
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  Speaker 2: and into the belly of the defense as opposed to
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  Speaker 2: try and get outside. But man, I know, without a
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  Speaker 2: napkin to draw, it's that that's hard to communicate. But
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  Speaker 2: but it's a big adjustment for him potentially. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: all of the angles and the timing changes all right.
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  Speaker 1: Well, in our last couple of minutes of this segment,
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  Speaker 1: I do want to ask you about something I heard
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  Speaker 1: you say last night. It's not that that Jadarian Price
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  Speaker 1: has not proven he's durable. He's just not having the
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  Speaker 1: opportunity to prove he's durable. Yeah, and being undersized and
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  Speaker 1: never having been a RB one in his entire college career. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: how concerned should we be about that? Well, I think
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  Speaker 1: until he proves it, it's a concern. He only had
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  Speaker 1: eight and a couple decimal points average per game on touches,
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  Speaker 1: and that's counting to catch. You only it six catches
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: on seven attempts, so all of his touches were were
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: And I looked at all those seven attempts, but to him,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: and he catches the ball.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: Fine, But you know, you don't see any like he's not.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: You know, we haven't seen any Christian McCaffrey and what
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: have you. But I think he's I think he's a
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: more than sufficient receiver of the ball. But getting back
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: to the touches, so call it eight touches a game
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: and change. He's at two hundred and three pounds. Two
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: hundred three pounds that is from two or three is
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: the twenty second percentile for running backs. His five eleven
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: is the fifty seventh percent of So he's normal height canine.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: The guy he's replacing was two inches shorter at five
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: to nine, but he's two in a less and so
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: he was the twentieth percentile on height canine, but he's
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: the forty fourth percentile in weight. So they verted. So
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: the you know, body mass index, you look at canine.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: He is a stocky dude. We stand right next to me,
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: a stocky dude. He looks like he's built to take
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: the hits. So so price goes up in height by
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: two inches and down in weight by ten pounds.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: That's a shift in the BM so.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: You know it's a it's a more i would say,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: thinner fragile. It's a less stocky frame and two three,
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: as we said, twenty second percentile. If you if you
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: want to have a work coacht, they're generally not that light. Now.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: He said that his playing weight at Notre Dame was
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: like two of five to two eight, and that he
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: wants to play at two ten. But even at two ten, obviously,
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: if he's the exact same weight as Canine and he's
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: two inches taller, his BMI is always going to be
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: less right at the same height. So so there's some
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: concerns there that, you know, little nagging things. You start
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: taking some hits and do you start missing some time,
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: what have it. But he hasn't shown that he had achilles.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: He tours achilles his freshman year, so there's at least
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: an injury to be aware of coming in.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: But he's not undurable.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: It's just when you look and you say, okay, you
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: know we're essentially stretching out Canine toward making him taller
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: and lighter, which means his frame isn't as dense, and
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: so you want to take those hits. You'd like to
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: have a little bit more, You'd like to have a
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: little bit higher bmi.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're not no longer in a You got
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: to get that running back twenty five thirty touches a
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: game like we did when we grew up. It's more
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: probably fifteen to eighteen is what you're would be asking
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: from him, But that's still ten more than he's getting
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: right now, and the hits he's going to take are
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: going to be more violent.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure if it's even fifteen to eighteen. It
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: might be, you know, I think Canine was hovering around
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: thirteen before the sharbonnet.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Still as a jump.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Yes, but it's not just when we were kids, frank
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: O Harris, you know Shawn Alexander and Ladanian, Tomlins and
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: all those guys. That was an era where you had,
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: you know, several guys over twenty attempts per game.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, hum, Mellen is with us. We are, of course
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: talking about the NFL Draft, and the Seahawks weren't the
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: only team drafting last night. As it turns out, I've
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: got to get your take on this RAMS thing that's
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: going on, So we'll do that next our Sports Radio
• 21:33
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• 21:41
  Speaker 1: More coverage tonight on Sports Radio ninety three point three
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: kjr FM, Hugh Millen, Rob rang Ian Forness, Softy Dick.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: They'll all be out there at the Virginia Mason Athletics
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Center and then our coverage will conclude. Tomorrow. We'll be
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: out again to the vMac to give you rounds four
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: through seven. But certainly with the Seahawks having two picks
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: right now, sixty four and ninety six on the clock,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: you're going to want to be tuned in to get
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Hugh's instant reaction to that. He's in studio with us
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: here this morning to talk about the draft. We've already
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: talked about Jadarian Price, the Seahawks pick at number thirty two.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: I got to get your thoughts though on this RAMS
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: drama that's going on right now, And I mean it
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: was a kind of a shocking pick based on all
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: of the information that was being floated around before the
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: draft that he might not even be taken in the
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: first round. Then he goes at thirteenth, and my reaction
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: to it here was just like, oh, I guess let's
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: need Sean McVay really loved this guy. Oh okay, all right,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: I get it. Stafford's old. It's great, but he's old.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: So they're just going to go with a little smooth transition.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: I'm going to celebrate it a little bit in my
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: own heart because it feels to me like the Rams
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: didn't get better with that pick, and the Seahawks have
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: a chance to get better with their thirty second pick
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: from where they're at right now. And then I woke
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: up this morning to all sorts of talk about how
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: McVeigh hates this pick. Read the body language, listen to
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: what he's saying and what he isn't saying, and so
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: it feels to me, I'm you know, he didn't come
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: out and say I hate this pick, I hate less Need,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: I hate Ty Simpson. I hope they both have miserable lives.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: It didn't go as far as saying that. But my
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: read of it is kind of what others are suggesting
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: out there, that it doesn't look like Sean mcvayh likes
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: this pick at all and feels angry that they didn't
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: improve the team this year.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, your thought, Well, I think intuition can often be,
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: you know, very reliable. I've watched the YouTube videos of it,
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: and I see what you're seeing that. You know, there's
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: the term damning with faint praise. I think Sean McVeigh
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: damned that pick with faint praise and with faint enthusiasm.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: So I agree.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Now, maybe maybe he's distracted about something else else, but
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: I was borderline stunned by the pick of a that
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: it was that high b that let's just be a
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Ram fan for a second. Okay, let's try let's try
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: and contort ourselves into that space.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Does that mean I should try to fight you at
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: the game or show?
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right with the cheese, wine and cheese. I would
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: look at my team, the Rams, in this scenario and say, hey,
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: we're just as good as the Seahawks, like we're knocking
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: on the door. I mean, Ruben Bain was available, Kenyan
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Sadiq was available. Do you want going to go through
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: the guys that they could have taken that that are
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: immediate help of the football team. Now to beat the
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: Seattle Seahawks. You got Matthew Stafford. What do you think
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford thought when when they took all of that
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: value and if you didn't want to pick at thirteen
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: trade down, look at the Jimmy Jarnson chart. There's a
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: lot of value in that. You know, trade trade for too,
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: you know two seconds and a third, you know what
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: and and so to get a guy. And then moreover,
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: what strikes me as stunning is I thought Jared Goff
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: was an exceptional quarterback for the Rams. If you go
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: back and look at some of the years he had
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: that dude, like remember that Monday night game against Kansas
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: City for like fours, Like he was the degree of
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: difficulty that Jared Goff was asked to execute when he
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: was the Rams quarterback. Like every play you're calling, it's like, well,
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: the primary receiver is you know, a twenty eight yard
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: cornerback on the far hash Like Sean McVay asked a
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: lot of his quarterbacks and when when Goff, who took
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: him to a Super Bowl, didn't quite deliver, what do
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: he do? He went and he got he said, I
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: just need more horsepower, I need more juice, I need
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: more I need a guy that can just rip a
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: ball into the tightest of windows. So he sends off.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: He sends off a first round pick and Jared goff
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: to get Matthew Stafford.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so he elevates.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: So now he's operating with with an arm that is
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: at the top of the food chain, right Like Matthew
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Stafford can throw with Josh Allen, with Pat Mahomes, he
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: can throw with anybody on planet Earth, even at this age.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: And so now you're going to drop down to a
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: guy that has set you know, you know, like that's
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: the arm strength is one of his the biggest knocks
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: on him. Now I literally is like, okay, how does
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: this make sense? Now? I know he's friends with Kyle Shanahan,
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: they've coached together. Arguably they're the tandem the freshest offensive
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: young minds, you know, pushing around forty years old. I mean,
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: these dudes are still still young. And maybe Brock the
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: brock Purty effect impacted him. En. Now this is me
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: thinking last night, like, but it doesn't make sense that
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: that you needed Matthew Stafford. But now you're ready to
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: drop all the way down to a brock Purty arm.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Now Ty Simpson has a stronger arm than than brock Perdy.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: But but you know there's some limitations there, and so
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: that that shocked the hell out of me. And and
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: the idea of the timing of you know, at the
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: end of Stafford's career where they have a they have
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: it as talented as any team in the league that roster,
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: why would you not want to get a guy that
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: could push help push you over. I mean, if if
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: they had drafted Reuben Bain junior right now as as
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: a And now let's get back to the reality and
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: we're Seahawk fans, we did a saying oh crap, yeah,
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: that's what.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: I would have been saying. First Bain fast, Yeah.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Like whoa, that's that That's gonna be a load or
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: you know, how are we gonna deal with Kenyan Sadik
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: or what you know, there's there's other guys, I mean,
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Dylan Theneman, you know, the safeties or kind of suspect
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: you know this Theenemon can you know, he's a gazelle
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: in the back end. You know, it's like whoa that
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: he's going to be an impact player. You know, like
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: like the way uh Cooper Dejine. You know, you get
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: the right piece as a rookie dB. Even a dB
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: can can like almost seemingly turn your team around. And
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: the Rams passed on all of that to pick a
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: quarterback that we don't know when he's going to play,
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: and we don't even know if the head coach likes him?
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Right when? Yeah? When? Hilarious? Yeah?
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: And and what's Matthew Stafford said, whiskey tango foxtrott?
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Right? What did we just do? Yeah? Yeah, well, I
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: don't know. It really looks like less Need didn't care
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: what Sean McVay wanted to do and just did it
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: on his own.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: And that's well, that's crazy, that's I mean, who.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Has more power in that building than he does? I
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: would think I would agree with that.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: You know, I know Kevin and Demoff the president of
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: the Rams, because he's Marvin Demoff's son, who's my agent
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: with my whole career.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: And when Kevin was like ten the great well Away
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: and Marino and Millen and.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's already written in the history books, right he already,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: So let it be written. You know, I remember going
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: meeting him, going to uh I think it was Hollywood
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Park or some some.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Racetrack in l A.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: You know, we spent the afternoon Marvin and Kevin, you know,
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: gambling on on horses.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: And also I've known Kevin a long time, had a
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: lot of.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Conversations with him, and uh, I would agree with you.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: I I would having talked with Kevin about how he
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: feels about Sean McVay, I I would say, Sean McVay
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: is you know, every everything goes downhill from him. So
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: I would agree with that that that is a big
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: that's a big development if what your suggestion is true,
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: feels like it Because I thought Less Need was among
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: the best gms. You know, he said, if John Schneider
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: is the best, well who's he in competition with? You know,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: Brandon bean lessening in some guys that are really accomplished
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: some things. But but I thought Less Need is just
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: about as good as any of them. And of course
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: mcveigh's about as good as any coach. So but for
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: them to have friction like that, having a disagreement about
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: the thirteenth pick and and your future quarterback, that is
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: not a small manner.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: No that Yeah, how does that not get wrong? Coach? Yeah?
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that is not you know, do you want toffee
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: creamer in the refrigerator? Or hazel nutt like that. This
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: is a big deal. The thirteenth pick. No, no, no,
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: all right, well, we've.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Got one more segment here with Hugh and a lot
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: more to talk about. We won't be able to get
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: to a thousandth of it, but we'll close it out
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: next we'll close out our week of morning shows here
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: on Chuck and Buck. So stick with a sports Radio
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• 31:20
  Speaker 1: to Tulala Brazor Casino or Cool Ceda Creek Casino. Maybe
• 31:23
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• 31:26
  Speaker 1: going on, NHL playoffs going on, you got Major League Baseball.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's going to be a great night of viewing.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: I love this time of the year. And if you
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: want to spice it up a little bit, head on
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: out to Talala Brazork Casino. After all, they've got the
• 31:39
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• 31:41
  Speaker 1: head to the DraftKings Sports Book and just have a ball. Also,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: quickly want to mention, before I forget, thank you to
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Chris Butdorf who apparently left me a gift last night.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: A Penn says, players trust on it I'm not sure
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: if I'm supposed to promote that, but I was left
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: a note this morning that said, Chris but Orf wanted
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: me to have this pend, So thank you, Chris Bedorf.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: All right, we're getting ready to close out the show,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: close out the week, Ashley myself. We normally do booze
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: news here, Hugh, but we weren't sure if you could
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: handle alcohol you ever had before? You ever had any
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: alcohol in have you ever? Well? Ian and I were
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: at Dino's last night after the.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Draft and we had our annual uh car bomb shooting?
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Is that right experience? What a great tradition that is. Yeah?
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: That started when I said, hey, I got a little
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: bit of koug in me. Oh I'm a husky. I
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: got tea wee bit of kogi. Mean, let's let's go
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: be let's go be coogs. Oh my gosh, a little
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: part of salty just died hearing that. Yeah.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: I think my my, my husky brethren understand. They know
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: exactly what I'm describing. The Cougs wouldn't understand, but my
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: huskies are at a high enough playing they get it.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: All right, I'm going to bring something up here to
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: close out the show. We've got our TV one here
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: with the draft last night. You know what I do
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: this draft, miss thing. I've made some pretty bold predictions.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: I've been wrong a lot about the NFL Draft, but
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: I nailed Baker Mayfield was going to be the number
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: one pick that entire draft year. And you know who
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: credited me with that, the only person at the entire station,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Hugh Millan. He gave me credit for it. Nice. And
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: then two years ago I said the six quarterbacks are
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: going to be gone before the Broncos are done picking
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: at number twelve. One person credited me. Hugh Millan came
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: on the air and said, you nailed that. So I too.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm listening last night. I'm listening last night. I
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: have been saying that Jeremiah Love was going to go third.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, weeks okay before anybody else was dying for
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: a cookie, and I thought maybe he was going to
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: throw out there that Chuck did it again.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: He nailed Oh father, draftness, he nailed it again. Uh
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: And I you know what, I'm chalking it up to
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Ashley what Hughes just had enough of mock drafts. That's
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: what I think, you know, based on our conversation from
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: earlier this week. I think Hugh has had enough with
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: mock drafters and he doesn't want to hear it right about.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: I got a thought about that in a second.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: But but Jeremiah Love, when I heard you say it,
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: I thought it was already at the point where it
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: was everybody was saying it. But if you in fact
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: we were, then then absolutely yes.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: We'll get We'll get it.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: That star that's on the Christmas tree, we'll put that
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: on your head and you deserve to wear yes, the
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Draftmas tree. You know it's for you know, you're you're
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: busting my chops about my take on on uh mock drafts.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: And and let me let me clarify, because you said.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: On our airwaves that everybody like they're too people.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: I just made an off handed comment. And let me
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: clarify if because I think we have a category area
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: in the in the misunderstanding. If you were talking about, hey,
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: fans getting involved and like not unlike the NCAA you know,
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: basketball bracket. I love that by all means, I would
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: be all down for that. That's more people loving football,
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: more people get involved. I'd be like, yeah, let's do it,
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: you know, like I think that's awesome. And I don't
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: know that people have done enough studying, but I think
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: that'd be cool if that was the thing.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: What I study. In the NCAA basketball at all, they
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: still fill out their bread.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: Right yeah, but but but but everybody understands that what
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: I was referring to is that that to do a
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: mock draft, like a seven round, a seven round mocked draft,
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: you're out there.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: You are either you barely.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Know the players, okay, and I'm talking about people who
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: who pass themselves off as an expert on it, and
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: you know, they start off on a website, website, wally
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  Speaker 2: and then and then you know, whether it's CBS Sports
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: or Sporting News or something that they need to have content.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: So they'll say, hey, you're doing a website, you know,
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  Speaker 2: come into our network.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: We'll take half your money.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: But at least you can say that you're part of
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  Speaker 2: CBS or you know, these deals because it's hard to
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  Speaker 2: find somebody who who's doing seven rounds with any with
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: any expertise behind it, right, because how many how many
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  Speaker 2: former players or coaches are really going to take the
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  Speaker 2: time to study that meant much tape to actually do it,
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  Speaker 2: you know, now, melt Kuiper's the og.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: He he stands alone like he's been doing it for
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: forty five years. He's above this because he's the original, right,
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: I think he should be in the Hall of Fame. Like,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to detract from mel Kiper, but you know,
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: you kind of start to stay. You know, it's crazy
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  Speaker 2: these guys. You hear them on a radio station or
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: what are on TV? And then you look at their background.
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  Speaker 2: They have no football background. And I promise you you
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  Speaker 2: put them up on a whiteboard and and you said, okay,
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  Speaker 2: draw the Mills pass concept against an overcover front now
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  Speaker 2: against an under uh uh from the right hash left
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  Speaker 2: hash When the the overhang defender it walks out over
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  Speaker 2: the slot receiver, does the slot receiver go inside of
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: the overhanger outside?
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  Speaker 1: And why?
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: Like if you start, if you start pulling on them,
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: like on their football knowledge, it's gonna crumble, It's gonna
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: be a junk show. And yet a guy will come
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  Speaker 2: on and say, hey, I my my my eighth corner
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: on the board is this guy? And I honest go
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: what you're You're eight corner? Like? And and I know
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: they've never played or coached or scouted, and and I'm like,
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: what basis? Because did you owe AI on that or
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: did you just read a bunch of others? And so
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: I think that there's there are so many mock drafts
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: out there. And the comment I made is, if you
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: think you're you're you're homeless, your destitute, you're about to
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: take a cardboard, you know, a draw, please help uh
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: first before you do that. You got a chance do
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: a mock draft, because somebody says, so there's there's there's.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Gonna be a market for you.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Like so I was talking about people that I know,
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: damn well don't know football that are putting out a
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: mock draft and saying my this, my that, And I
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: know it would be a junc shore if you put
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: them on a whiteboard and ask them to describe draw plays,
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: draw coverages, draw protections. I know that it would they
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: got they got nothing, you know, like me and hockey
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: or something like like, it would be it'd be it'd
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: be you. That would be laughable, right, And so anyway,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: but you do share the draft and the spirit love it.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: You can mock away out there if.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: You want to do a bracket right and and and
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: you got did you say you got nine, right, I
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: got nine, But you got more than malt Kuiper I did.
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  Speaker 1: He got five, he got five.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and and you know what, it's such a it's
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: such a and that's another part of the the mock
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  Speaker 2: draft even like like I don't know, it's it's really hard.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: And you know what, they're never they're never gonna they're
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: never gonna hold it against you next year. Now when
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: you come out with a mock draft that you're not
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: gonna say to melt Kuiper, you only got five last year.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: I can get one. All get seventy percent of our
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: draft like Ashley did. Yeah, exactly as she got seventy
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: five percent. Three out of four, she got three out
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: of four. Pixture right yesterday on the air was including no,
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: it was from the whole first round. Yeah, she nailed
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Jadari in Price too. Yeah, yeah, you.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Pick you picked four out of the thirty two and
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  Speaker 2: you went three out of four.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah you go girl, Yeah, I know, I know. And
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Daniel Jared.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, we got a basket in this the success for
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: a second, who did you have?
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: I did David Bailey to.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: The Jets, Well that that could have been a lot,
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: that could have been a lot of people you weren't
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: allowed to take Fernando, I.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: Know, Omar Cooper to the Jets and Price to the Seahawks.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah she got them all. Well, yeah she won. That's good.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: I'm not bitter about it. How many how many of
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: the four did you get? I got one with one
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: pending tonight, I got Jeremia. You're winning this one? Yeah? Well,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: all right, we are out of time. We're gonna be
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  Speaker 1: late for the Great Bell Show. But have fun tonight.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Joy will be listening. Love it, yell, Okay, have a
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