Latest / The Skol Hop / Vikings Snubbed in the Pro Bowl, Win or Tank, Road Trip? | TSH Ep. 119
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- 0:00Speaker 1: All right, Hey Vikings fans, welcome in to another episode
- 0:03Speaker 1: of the School Hop. I'm Evan and I'm Austin. There's
- 0:05Speaker 1: a couple of dudes from Iowa. We like drinking beer
- 0:07Speaker 1: and talking about the Vikings.
- 0:09Speaker 2: Yeah, we do, and this was a fun one to
- 0:10Speaker 2: talk about a little bit, especially since we didn't have
- 0:13Speaker 2: to spin the wheel of Purple Punishments and it was
- 0:16Speaker 2: a Vikings victory.
- 0:17Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a while since we've had to spin
- 0:19Speaker 1: the wheel, which is okay with me honestly. And we
- 0:23Speaker 1: had a really good beer from Big Grove that checks
- 0:25Speaker 1: all of the boxes I think for both of us. Yeah, supero.
- 0:29Speaker 2: It wasn't all positive though. We did have to talk
- 0:32Speaker 2: a little bit about how this season has been kind
- 0:34Speaker 2: of rough for the Vikings, which isn't a surprise, but
- 0:36Speaker 2: also no Pro bowlers at all for the Vikings to
- 0:41Speaker 2: be expected on a terrible season, but it's still not
- 0:43Speaker 2: fun to think about.
- 0:44Speaker 1: Yeah. Still some opportunities for the Vikings to really show
- 0:48Speaker 1: up and show out against two divisional opponents, both of
- 0:51Speaker 1: which are at home, which is a good thing for
- 0:53Speaker 1: the Vikings. Maybe a possible School Hop road trip in the.
- 0:56Speaker 2: Future maybe, And unfortunately we won't see JJ McCarthy against
- 1:00Speaker 2: the Lions, but either way it's not an all for loss.
- 1:03Speaker 2: They might still win. But until then, go ahead and
- 1:06Speaker 2: grab a cold one and join us for episode one
- 1:09Speaker 2: nineteen of the School hotsl School. All right, we want
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- 3:13Speaker 2: One thing I'm really looking forward to is, first off,
- 3:16Speaker 2: purple punishments. We do not have to do it. This
- 3:18Speaker 2: week the Vikings beat the Giants, while preseason predicted a
- 3:22Speaker 2: Giant's win over the Giants and they pulled it out,
- 3:26Speaker 2: So boring or not, a win is a win, and
- 3:29Speaker 2: we don't have to do the purple punishments. But what
- 3:31Speaker 2: I'm really looking forward to here is our beer for today. Evan,
- 3:36Speaker 2: what's the beer today?
- 3:37Speaker 1: The beer is called Redheaded Stranger. It's an American red
- 3:41Speaker 1: ipa made by Big Grove Brewery. We love Big Grove.
- 3:44Speaker 1: We have a lot of their beers, and I think
- 3:46Speaker 1: this is a good time to remind people that we
- 3:48Speaker 1: only drink Iowa beer on our show. Now, that's not
- 3:52Speaker 1: to say that we don't drink other beers outside of
- 3:55Speaker 1: the show very much enjoy other beers. When we're sitting
- 3:58Speaker 1: here and we're recording our episode, Iowa beer is all
- 4:01Speaker 1: we drink. This is episode one nineteen. We've had a
- 4:04Speaker 1: lot of really good Iowa bears in our show's history,
- 4:08Speaker 1: and this is one that Big Grove tells us on
- 4:12Speaker 1: the can here. It's a limited time release and it's
- 4:17Speaker 1: right in my wheelhouse, right in my category of beer.
- 4:19Speaker 1: We had to look this up because I don't think
- 4:21Speaker 1: either of us are Willie Nelson fans. But Redheaded Stranger
- 4:25Speaker 1: is the name of an album and the title song
- 4:28Speaker 1: on that album by Willie Nelson from way back in
- 4:32Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nineteen seventy five. Yeah, I think there might
- 4:35Speaker 1: be another, maybe a reason he named it that album,
- 4:38Speaker 1: but I don't know. I couldn't find anything other than
- 4:41Speaker 1: Willie Nelson when I looked up the Redheaded Stranger. But yeah,
- 4:45Speaker 1: that's apparently its namesake, and it says they have a
- 4:49Speaker 1: little description here, it's a tribute to a true American outlaw.
- 4:52Speaker 1: Redheaded Stranger is made with a hefty dose of Chinook
- 4:55Speaker 1: and Amarillo hops. This beer is brewed as a limited release,
- 4:58Speaker 1: so you'd better saddle up and get moving before it
- 5:01Speaker 1: rides off into the sunset. Yeah.
- 5:03Speaker 2: I'm really excited for this one. Yeah, that's that's about
- 5:06Speaker 2: all I can say. Uh, it's not often that you
- 5:10Speaker 2: find a brand new beer that I haven't had, especially
- 5:12Speaker 2: from Big Grove. We're big fans of Big Grove and
- 5:16Speaker 2: typically we've we've had most of everything they put out,
- 5:19Speaker 2: so it's always fun when we see it can that
- 5:20Speaker 2: we don't recognize before.
- 5:21Speaker 1: I can smell this already, and you know what it
- 5:23Speaker 1: reminds me of. It reminds me of the red beer
- 5:26Speaker 1: that we brewed oh okay with Forest, So I'm excited
- 5:31Speaker 1: to try.
- 5:31Speaker 2: Oh you know what I saw at the store recently,
- 5:33Speaker 2: speaking of Big Grove beers that we don't see all
- 5:35Speaker 2: the time, I saw Birch the Bear, Birch the Brown Yeah. Yeah,
- 5:40Speaker 2: well we call.
- 5:40Speaker 1: It Birch the Brown Bear. I think it's officially Birch
- 5:42Speaker 1: the Bear it is, but but yeah, that's uh, that's
- 5:45Speaker 1: Brown stores right now. So pretty exciting time for beer.
- 5:49Speaker 1: Skull the Skull Love beer. Yep, this is what I
- 5:58Speaker 1: wanted a beer right here.
- 6:00Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really nice. It's got like the almost the citrusiness,
- 6:05Speaker 2: the happiness of an ipa, but then blended really well
- 6:10Speaker 2: with that red that amber flavor as well. Yeah, it's
- 6:13Speaker 2: super good. I haven't had it before. I'm really glad
- 6:16Speaker 2: that we tried it this time, and I'm kind of
- 6:18Speaker 2: sad it's a limited run because this is super good.
- 6:21Speaker 1: It does remind me of that hoppy amber that we brewed.
- 6:24Speaker 2: Do we have one of those bottles on set here?
- 6:28Speaker 2: It was our first beer that we brewed for the
- 6:30Speaker 2: show with front of the show for us that happy
- 6:32Speaker 2: American nail or happy amber.
- 6:35Speaker 1: I forget what we need happy American amber there. It is.
- 6:38Speaker 2: Yeah, so very similar. But I mean I love Forest
- 6:42Speaker 2: and he's a heck of a brewer. This one might
- 6:46Speaker 2: be a hair leaps and bounds better, you know, just
- 6:49Speaker 2: a little bit better than our school hot beer, but
- 6:53Speaker 2: a little bit different styles. This one's super super good.
- 6:56Speaker 2: I like the tanginess. Are you getting that a little bit?
- 6:58Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a little tanginess to it. It's smooth though,
- 7:02Speaker 1: going down, like just has a nice clean finish. I
- 7:06Speaker 1: like it.
- 7:07Speaker 2: This is what I wanted to be here. Yeah, six
- 7:09Speaker 2: point eight percent. So starting to get on the you know,
- 7:13Speaker 2: higher to mid to higher range. Nothing crazy, full disclosure.
- 7:18Speaker 2: We are recording. We're both on a little bit of
- 7:20Speaker 2: a Christmas break right now, so recording during the day,
- 7:23Speaker 2: not on our usual Monday nights. But yeah, we don't
- 7:26Speaker 2: have work to get to or anything like that, so
- 7:29Speaker 2: we'll be perfectly fine. But yeah, I really like this one.
- 7:32Speaker 2: I can't wait to give a full opinion after a
- 7:35Speaker 2: couple more.
- 7:36Speaker 1: Yeah, should be good. We can give a full opinion
- 7:39Speaker 1: on the Vikings win over the Giants. We watched most
- 7:43Speaker 1: of it together, which was fun. We actually got our
- 7:46Speaker 1: kids together and played and then we took them out
- 7:48Speaker 1: for ice cream afterwards. Yep, because the Viking's won, and
- 7:50Speaker 1: that's the tradition in your house. So my household, every
- 7:53Speaker 1: Vikings win, my kids get ice cream. I think you
- 7:56Speaker 1: your household kind of follows that a little bit. It's
- 7:59Speaker 1: not a steadfast for you guys, where it is for us.
- 8:01Speaker 1: If they pay attention, which they don't always pay attention,
- 8:05Speaker 1: then if the Vikings are winning, they'll they'll ask me, like, dad,
- 8:08Speaker 1: does this mean we get ice cream? Well, if they win. Yeah.
- 8:11Speaker 2: My kids are so much in tune to that rule
- 8:14Speaker 2: that if I pull up like a highlight video on YouTube,
- 8:16Speaker 2: like on a Tuesday, especially, my five year old will
- 8:20Speaker 2: walk up and be like, yeah.
- 8:21Speaker 1: So the Vikings are winning. Do we get ice creamed? Buddy?
- 8:23Speaker 2: This is the game from like two days ago, like
- 8:25Speaker 2: or this game was when I was a child, you know,
- 8:28Speaker 2: like this. They're not playing right now, so it doesn't count.
- 8:30Speaker 2: Have to be a live game. Uh yeah, we all
- 8:32Speaker 2: got ice cream. We kind of went all out too.
- 8:35Speaker 2: We went to one of the froyo spots where you
- 8:37Speaker 2: put in all.
- 8:38Speaker 1: The mixic mix and all your stuff. So that was good.
- 8:42Speaker 2: But also I feel like I always forget. Are you
- 8:45Speaker 2: in the camp of once you get to a certain
- 8:48Speaker 2: point you just lose out for a better draft pick,
- 8:50Speaker 2: or are you like me where it's like we get
- 8:52Speaker 2: so few games every year, let's just win them all.
- 8:54Speaker 2: You win everyone we can, whether or not it helps
- 8:56Speaker 2: it hurts the draft.
- 8:57Speaker 1: I'm on the other side of the coin for me.
- 9:00Speaker 1: You okay? And actually I added a reason to that.
- 9:04Speaker 1: Janick Eckhart had an interesting tweet. I think I can't
- 9:08Speaker 1: I think it was yesterday. Maybe I saw it this morning.
- 9:10Speaker 1: I don't remember, but he said something along the lines
- 9:14Speaker 1: of like, if the Vikings finished last in the division,
- 9:17Speaker 1: here are their opponents for next year, and if they
- 9:20Speaker 1: finish third in the division, here are their opponents for
- 9:23Speaker 1: next year. And the opponents if the Vikings finished fourth
- 9:27Speaker 1: third is are much more favorable at least based on
- 9:31Speaker 1: how those teams performed this year then playing the teams
- 9:36Speaker 1: that they would play if they finished in third. If
- 9:40Speaker 1: you don't die on these, maybe you can do you
- 9:43Speaker 1: want to read the tweet. So this tweet makes sense,
- 9:47Speaker 1: and it is in favor of those who say just
- 9:50Speaker 1: just lose out. But it's also kind of not set
- 9:53Speaker 1: in stone because the other teams haven't been decided yet
- 9:56Speaker 1: either as far as you know, third or fourth place
- 9:58Speaker 1: in each division. But at least he tweeted this out
- 10:02Speaker 1: two days ago, and at least at the time he
- 10:08Speaker 1: was saying, if the Vikings finished third in the division,
- 10:10Speaker 1: this is if they win on Christmas and beat the Packers,
- 10:14Speaker 1: and the week or two after that, then next year,
- 10:19Speaker 1: the other fourth place teams that they could be facing
- 10:22Speaker 1: would be the Giants, the Titans, and the Cardinals.
- 10:26Speaker 2: Sorry I said that wrong. If they win on Christmas.
- 10:29Speaker 2: The third place teams that they would be going up
- 10:32Speaker 2: against would be the Commanders, Colts and forty nine Ers
- 10:36Speaker 2: or the Rams, depending on who finishes where. And then
- 10:40Speaker 2: the fourth place teams if they do finish fourth place
- 10:43Speaker 2: in the division, that would be the Giants, Titans, and Cardinals.
- 10:45Speaker 2: So there's a little bit of caveat to this. Every
- 10:49Speaker 2: year is a little bit different. The twenty twenty four
- 10:53Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings, other teams would look at the Vikings on
- 10:56Speaker 2: their schedule and say, man, Sam Donald's playing well. Justin Jefferson,
- 11:00Speaker 2: that's a tough, tough game, and I really I don't
- 11:03Speaker 2: want to play that team next year. Well, teams in
- 11:07Speaker 2: twenty twenty five looking at the Vikings on their schedule
- 11:10Speaker 2: have pretty much for the most part been like, oh,
- 11:12Speaker 2: all right, that's a win. You know, we got it,
- 11:15Speaker 2: so I don't expect it, but we very well could
- 11:18Speaker 2: be looking at the Giants next year saying, man, Jackson
- 11:22Speaker 2: Dart really took a turn. He took a turn for
- 11:24Speaker 2: the better. That team is tough. The Cardinals are really
- 11:28Speaker 2: looking good. Marvin Harrison Junior finally figured it out, like
- 11:31Speaker 2: he's really looking good. Like every year, teams are different
- 11:35Speaker 2: than they were the last year. So sure does it
- 11:38Speaker 2: make sense now to say, like no, no, no, lose
- 11:40Speaker 2: out so we can have the Giants, Titans, and Cardinals
- 11:43Speaker 2: on our schedule because they're terrible this year, next year
- 11:47Speaker 2: they could be way different. So I could see that mindset,
- 11:49Speaker 2: But I don't know.
- 11:50Speaker 1: It's all kind of a wash. It just it added
- 11:53Speaker 1: a little fuel to the fire for me of why
- 11:56Speaker 1: it might be not the worst thing in the world
- 11:59Speaker 1: for the Vikings to lose a few games to position
- 12:01Speaker 1: themselves better for next year in a season that's already lost.
- 12:05Speaker 1: Not only will you maybe get a slightly higher draft
- 12:08Speaker 1: pick out of the deal, you might get more favorable
- 12:11Speaker 1: matchups in your games, and all of that could lead
- 12:15Speaker 1: to better success next year. Right Yeah, So you know,
- 12:20Speaker 1: if you can lay the groundwork for a more successful
- 12:23Speaker 1: season right now next year, then why not do that?
- 12:27Speaker 1: In my opinion, why not put Max Brosmer in and
- 12:29Speaker 1: let him develop a little bit, let JJ McCarthy get
- 12:32Speaker 1: fully healthy, and put JJ McCarthy like literally next to
- 12:37Speaker 1: Koc the whole game and like have Koc, you know,
- 12:42Speaker 1: break down everything that he's seeing, everything that he's looking for,
- 12:46Speaker 1: everything that he wants out of JJ. I don't know
- 12:51Speaker 1: that won't happen. I know what won't happen. I know
- 12:53Speaker 1: the Vikings are going to try to win these next
- 12:55Speaker 1: two games because they have the ability to play spoiler
- 12:59Speaker 1: for the line and the Packers. Really they can knock
- 13:03Speaker 1: the Lions out of the playoffs. I think if they
- 13:05Speaker 1: beat them on Christmas.
- 13:06Speaker 2: Yeah, either they knock them out or they're a part
- 13:09Speaker 2: of the equation that knocks them out.
- 13:12Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 13:12Speaker 2: I think the Lions have a pretty major uphill battle
- 13:14Speaker 2: to climb to make it to the playoffs, and I
- 13:17Speaker 2: think winning both of their games is a part of
- 13:20Speaker 2: that equation for the Lions.
- 13:22Speaker 1: And then I think the Packers too, Like it's all
- 13:25Speaker 1: about positioning for the Packers right now, like they could
- 13:28Speaker 1: be anywhere from I don't think the Packers. I don't
- 13:31Speaker 1: think the Bears or the Packers will be the NFC's
- 13:33Speaker 1: number one seed. But you're talking division winner versus playing
- 13:39Speaker 1: you know, on the road wild card weekend, So the
- 13:45Speaker 1: Vikings have some stuff to play for against rivalry teams.
- 13:49Speaker 1: The Lions are still very much in contention right now, yeah,
- 13:54Speaker 1: I think. But I think a loss in a few
- 13:57Speaker 1: days against our Vikings would pretty much seal the deal
- 14:02Speaker 1: for them that, like, like you said, the Vikings might
- 14:05Speaker 1: not be solely responsible for that. But yeah, so all
- 14:10Speaker 1: that to say, I'm it kind of makes sense to
- 14:13Speaker 1: me just from a like futuristic standpoint, lose out get
- 14:18Speaker 1: a better draft pick, maybe a slightly better schedule versus
- 14:24Speaker 1: now just fight for the win and you know, deal
- 14:27Speaker 1: with what you get later. Yeah, I don't know.
- 14:30Speaker 2: We do have a little bit of breaking news here,
- 14:32Speaker 2: which you know, we're a pre recorded podcast, so everybody
- 14:35Speaker 2: listening to this already knows. But Alec Lewis just tweeted
- 14:40Speaker 2: out here that Vikings quarterback JJ McCarthy is out for
- 14:44Speaker 2: Thursday's game, Christmas Day game against the Lions. Apparently they
- 14:49Speaker 2: got some more scans done. He says, further imaging shows
- 14:53Speaker 2: a very very small hairline fracture, doesn't think it will
- 14:56Speaker 2: require surgery recovery, similar to a bone bruise, and then
- 15:00Speaker 2: he finishes off saying Max Brozemer will start. So yeah,
- 15:04Speaker 2: I guess there we go. I was kind of hoping
- 15:06Speaker 2: we would get that news as we recorded here, so
- 15:10Speaker 2: that we weren't immediately outdated here as a podcast. But
- 15:14Speaker 2: that's that's kind of a bummer for me. We can
- 15:19Speaker 2: talk about it more here a little bit later, but
- 15:21Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy was for me showing some things and developing
- 15:26Speaker 2: and you know, positive movement, even if it was a
- 15:29Speaker 2: lot of you know, trickery and playbook mini manipulation from KOC.
- 15:37Speaker 2: But either way, I think that also showed development for
- 15:40Speaker 2: KOC too. So I'm kind of bummed that we're not
- 15:42Speaker 2: gonna see J McCarthy at least on Christmas Day. Hopefully
- 15:46Speaker 2: he's he's good enough to start against the Packers, but ultimately,
- 15:51Speaker 2: I mean, the season's lost anyways. So Max Brozemer time
- 15:55Speaker 2: all all day against the Lions in Minnesota.
- 15:58Speaker 1: Well, let's not move on too quickly from the game
- 16:01Speaker 1: against the Giants, because there were some good things to
- 16:03Speaker 1: point out. I think we do roses, thorns and game balls.
- 16:06Speaker 1: Let's get into those, and then I think we can
- 16:09Speaker 1: spend some more time talking about the quarterback talker, because
- 16:13Speaker 1: that just continues to be the thread that we weave
- 16:17Speaker 1: in and out of every conversation. Is the quarterback controversy,
- 16:21Speaker 1: quarterback conundrum, whatever you want to call it. That's been,
- 16:25Speaker 1: that's been like all we've talked about this all one
- 16:28Speaker 1: and nineteen.
- 16:28Speaker 2: That's the most important position in sports and the Vikings.
- 16:32Speaker 2: Since the school hop has been alive, the Vikings quarterback
- 16:35Speaker 2: position has had something to talk about.
- 16:37Speaker 1: No consistency, really.
- 16:39Speaker 2: Well, there's always been a talker. It's Kirk Cousins. It's Oh,
- 16:43Speaker 2: he's injured. What do we do now?
- 16:45Speaker 3: Oh?
- 16:45Speaker 1: Do they sign him? Do they let him go? Oh?
- 16:47Speaker 2: They just signed Sam Darnold. Do they still draft a quarterback? Oh,
- 16:50Speaker 2: they just drafted a guy. You know, We've always had
- 16:52Speaker 2: something to talk about for the quarterback position, which is fun.
- 16:55Speaker 1: I mean.
- 16:57Speaker 2: It kind of sucks in the moment, but it's kind
- 17:00Speaker 2: of fun to give us something to talk about.
- 17:03Speaker 1: Yeah every week. Well, let's talk about JJ first. I
- 17:06Speaker 1: will start with a rose, and my rose is that
- 17:09Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy played well. Now. I know his stat line
- 17:12Speaker 1: doesn't look great. His QBR was meh, Yeah, but I
- 17:18Speaker 1: think that one interception really wasn't his fault. I think
- 17:22Speaker 1: you could make that argument. Yeah, I would tend to
- 17:25Speaker 1: agree with you.
- 17:25Speaker 2: It was a fluky play, but I mean it hit
- 17:28Speaker 2: Jalen Naylor in the hands. Yeah, bounced off, but he
- 17:31Speaker 2: should have either caught that or no matter what, it
- 17:34Speaker 2: was a heads up played by the defender and not
- 17:38Speaker 2: entirely JJ McCarthy's fault. So and also I'm going to
- 17:43Speaker 2: cut you off, but just to add to that point,
- 17:45Speaker 2: McCarthy had a beautiful pass to Jordan Addison on the
- 17:48Speaker 2: first drive in the end zone. Would have been a touchdown,
- 17:51Speaker 2: but Jordan Adison went up for it, caught it, fell
- 17:54Speaker 2: to the ground, and it popped out. So that should
- 17:56Speaker 2: have been a twenty ish yard touchdown for JJ McCarthy
- 18:00Speaker 2: talking about an interception that wasn't his fault and it
- 18:02Speaker 2: dropped touchdown pass. That also, he did everything a quarterback
- 18:06Speaker 2: should do to make a touchdown pass. So those two
- 18:09Speaker 2: things would have flipped the narrative crazy on JJ McCarthy
- 18:12Speaker 2: this game.
- 18:13Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think you've already mentioned it, and I
- 18:15Speaker 1: would just add on that. We're starting to see the
- 18:18Speaker 1: progression of JJ McCarthy. We're starting to see the growth.
- 18:22Speaker 1: And just when we thought like oh okay, like okay,
- 18:25Speaker 1: we can whatever the season's lost, you threw in it
- 18:28Speaker 1: and you threw a pick six. It is what it is,
- 18:30Speaker 1: and whatever, not a big deal anymore. We're not trying
- 18:32Speaker 1: to win these games to make it into the playoffs
- 18:35Speaker 1: or get a number one seed or anything. We were
- 18:38Speaker 1: just seeing progress and that was great. So my roes
- 18:42Speaker 1: and thorn are connected. So I'm just going to continue
- 18:44Speaker 1: on with my thorn and then I'll let you do yours.
- 18:48Speaker 1: The thorn was that he got hurt. I think you
- 18:52Speaker 1: get two more games with that kid, and then you
- 18:55Speaker 1: have an entire offseason with KOC and with Josh McCown
- 18:58Speaker 1: and whoever else to really iron out all of those imperfections,
- 19:04Speaker 1: all of the little mechanics, all of that. Boy, I
- 19:08Speaker 1: think week one next year we could have seen a
- 19:11Speaker 1: really great JJ McCarthy product on the field, for lack
- 19:17Speaker 1: of a better word. But now now I'm thinking that,
- 19:23Speaker 1: and here we go again talking about quarterback Carousels. I
- 19:28Speaker 1: think that could be a question mark for next year.
- 19:32Speaker 1: Now he's got a history of injury, Like he sat
- 19:35Speaker 1: out an entire season because he was injured, and now
- 19:37Speaker 1: he's sat out what six games including this one, this
- 19:41Speaker 1: upcoming one against the Lions do injury this year?
- 19:45Speaker 2: This game against the Giants was his ninth game, So
- 19:49Speaker 2: how many there's seven and eight that's fifteen games. So yeah,
- 19:53Speaker 2: that's six games he wasn't playing this year, seven including
- 19:56Speaker 2: Christmas and then potentially another an eighth game if he doesn't.
- 20:00Speaker 1: Not going to go against the Packers. So you're in
- 20:03Speaker 1: this really weird spot as an organization, like, well, do
- 20:06Speaker 1: we keep riding with this kid, do we go full
- 20:08Speaker 1: send with him even though we know he's not playing
- 20:13Speaker 1: great and he's hurt all the time, or do we
- 20:17Speaker 1: explore the market. And I mean there are I think
- 20:22Speaker 1: there are endless names that the Vikings could explore.
- 20:26Speaker 2: So yeah, and we can get into that too, but
- 20:29Speaker 2: there's you know, varying levels of what exploring the market means.
- 20:32Speaker 2: Is it breaking the bank and going for Joe Burrow
- 20:36Speaker 2: or is it you know, making sure you get a
- 20:38Speaker 2: guy on the level of like what we thought Sam
- 20:43Speaker 2: Darnold was when he you know, signed with a team
- 20:45Speaker 2: two years ago something like that. But we can, we
- 20:48Speaker 2: can dive a little bit more into that. Good Roses
- 20:50Speaker 2: and Thorns, My rose is Justin Jefferson finally looked like
- 20:56Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson again.
- 20:58Speaker 1: Again.
- 20:58Speaker 2: I think I heard on KFA ands fan line after
- 21:01Speaker 2: the game, Ron Johnson, who's on there, alluded to something that, Yeah,
- 21:08Speaker 2: the media has loved talking about this pure progression reads
- 21:11Speaker 2: for quarterbacks. Recently, Kirk Cousins had a really cool two
- 21:15Speaker 2: minute you know video that was, you know, bouncing around
- 21:19Speaker 2: for a little bit about talking about what that means
- 21:21Speaker 2: in pure progression rather than reading a defense, you know, solely.
- 21:25Speaker 2: But yeah, Ron Johnson said it seemed like Justin Jefferson
- 21:30Speaker 2: was moved around in that pure progression. I don't know
- 21:33Speaker 2: if he was always the one, you know, the number
- 21:35Speaker 2: one read and then you know he's not open yet enough,
- 21:38Speaker 2: or if they the Vikings moved him to typically like
- 21:41Speaker 2: the second or third read, and so you give him
- 21:43Speaker 2: a little bit more time to for JJ or the
- 21:45Speaker 2: quarterback whoever it is, to read a couple of guys,
- 21:48Speaker 2: and then by the time he gets to Jefferson maybe
- 21:50Speaker 2: he's open. But either way, Justin Jefferson kind of started
- 21:54Speaker 2: looking like the old JJ again. He had six catches
- 21:59Speaker 2: for eighty five yardards on eight targets, and he caught
- 22:03Speaker 2: good passes from both JJ McCarthy and Max Brosmer. And
- 22:08Speaker 2: now he's what eighty three yards away or something like
- 22:11Speaker 2: that from getting to a thousand, which I mean, I
- 22:16Speaker 2: think with two games left, that's definitely possible. I'd be
- 22:20Speaker 2: pretty actually surprised if he doesn't hit that thousand yard
- 22:22Speaker 2: mark unless he like twists his ankle on the first
- 22:25Speaker 2: knock on wood the first play of the game on
- 22:28Speaker 2: Christmas or something. But yeah, I fully expect him to
- 22:31Speaker 2: get to a thousand. It is really nice to see
- 22:33Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson look good on the field again, all the
- 22:40Speaker 2: while saying the exact right things off the field. And
- 22:45Speaker 2: you know, aside from coming out of the locker room
- 22:48Speaker 2: what against the Seahawks without talking to the media, that's
- 22:53Speaker 2: about the only thing he has done wrong in the
- 22:56Speaker 2: last few weeks. So I still love the guy, really
- 22:59Speaker 2: glad he's a king, and I think he'll hit a
- 23:01Speaker 2: thousand this year. You already did your thorne. My thorn
- 23:06Speaker 2: is also about another receiver and I kind of mentioned
- 23:08Speaker 2: it a few minutes ago, but Jordan Addison dropping that
- 23:11Speaker 2: touchdown pass. He's had some drops this year. It's it's
- 23:17Speaker 2: not great. He had two catches for twenty six yards
- 23:20Speaker 2: with a long of twenty He was only targeted three times.
- 23:26Speaker 2: There's only so many times you can drop a ball
- 23:28Speaker 2: before you lose the confidence of the quarterback of the coaches.
- 23:33Speaker 2: Jordan Addison is a guy who could be, you know,
- 23:36Speaker 2: one hundred million dollar receiver. He could be a wide
- 23:39Speaker 2: receiver one on lots of teams in the league, but
- 23:42Speaker 2: this year's he's been dropping the ball. He's you know,
- 23:45Speaker 2: he was suspended for three games to start the year.
- 23:48Speaker 2: He looked really good in training camp and preseason.
- 23:52Speaker 1: But if you can't.
- 23:54Speaker 2: Catch the ball, it doesn't matter how open you are,
- 23:57Speaker 2: how well you adjust your route to be in the
- 23:59Speaker 2: right spots catch the ball. You just got to come
- 24:01Speaker 2: down with it. So him dropping that touchdown pass, it
- 24:05Speaker 2: made him look bad. It skewed JJ McCarthy's stats to
- 24:08Speaker 2: look bad. It was just really rough. And I guess
- 24:12Speaker 2: in a game that you win if you only have
- 24:14Speaker 2: a few negatives, like that's that's okay. But that was
- 24:18Speaker 2: a pretty big negative. So that was my major thorn
- 24:20Speaker 2: of the game.
- 24:21Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's a guy, honestly, I could I could
- 24:25Speaker 1: see the vikings moving on from him. You have the
- 24:27Speaker 1: off field problems that you hoped would go away after
- 24:31Speaker 1: the three game suspension, but then they went to Europe
- 24:33Speaker 1: and they didn't go away, and it sounds like maybe
- 24:36Speaker 1: it could have been worse than it was, Like he
- 24:38Speaker 1: just missed a team meeting allegedly because he was doing
- 24:41Speaker 1: some sight seeing. Yeah, who knows what that means at
- 24:46Speaker 1: all hours of the night, right, And yeah, his on
- 24:52Speaker 1: field production has been good and he kind of stepped
- 24:54Speaker 1: up a little bit when Justin Jefferson was struggling. But
- 24:59Speaker 1: I don't know. I just he's got he's due four
- 25:03Speaker 1: million dollars next year.
- 25:04Speaker 2: Well, he's still on his rookie deal, and I think
- 25:06Speaker 2: next year is going to be will that be his
- 25:08Speaker 2: fourth year?
- 25:09Speaker 1: So I believe so, But I don't know.
- 25:12Speaker 2: I think the team would have to make the decision
- 25:16Speaker 2: pretty quick, like soon after the end of this season,
- 25:20Speaker 2: within a couple of months here, if they're going to
- 25:22Speaker 2: pick up his fifth year option, because as a first
- 25:24Speaker 2: round pick, he gets that fifth year option.
- 25:28Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 25:28Speaker 2: I feel like on the field, yeah, up until this year,
- 25:32Speaker 2: it was almost a no brainer, like, yeah, you pick
- 25:34Speaker 2: that up. But with the drops, with the off the
- 25:36Speaker 2: field stuff, I don't they may decline to pick that up.
- 25:40Speaker 2: That'll be an interesting thing to keep an eye on
- 25:42Speaker 2: because I think talent wise, there's no question he's good enough.
- 25:46Speaker 2: But I mean, as a receiver, you just can't drop
- 25:49Speaker 2: the ball. Unfortunately, you can get arrested, you can you know,
- 25:53Speaker 2: pay the fines, you can get all the speeding tickets
- 25:55Speaker 2: and stuff. But I mean, if you can't catch the ball,
- 25:59Speaker 2: there's no reason to be on the field.
- 26:01Speaker 1: I think he's a good trade bait. I don't think
- 26:04Speaker 1: cutting him, releasing him doesn't make sense. He's gonna be
- 26:08Speaker 1: a hit of four point three million dollars. Yeah, So
- 26:12Speaker 1: I think Quacy can dangle him out there as a
- 26:16Speaker 1: juicy trade for somebody who needs And we've said it before,
- 26:19Speaker 1: he's a wide receiver one on a lot of other teams.
- 26:23Speaker 1: You know, maybe somebody out there, like I think of
- 26:25Speaker 1: Carolina who doesn't have the receiving depth, or I don't know.
- 26:33Speaker 1: There's probably a bunch of other teams that it makes
- 26:35Speaker 1: sense for, but I don't know. I'd like to see
- 26:38Speaker 1: him go, honestly and see what else the Vikings can do,
- 26:43Speaker 1: and that might open up more opportunities for Justin Jefferson
- 26:46Speaker 1: next year, you know, if it's him and somebody else
- 26:49Speaker 1: that's not as high profile as now.
- 26:51Speaker 2: I mean, they've got other guys in the room. There's
- 26:53Speaker 2: Ty Felton, there's Joshawn Jones. They're Speedy Naylor, who's also
- 26:58Speaker 2: dang it, I did it. Jalen Naylor who's I think
- 27:00Speaker 2: he's about to be an unrestricted free agent. Yeah, that
- 27:05Speaker 2: wide receiver room could look a lot different next year
- 27:07Speaker 2: than it does right now. Excuse my voice here, a
- 27:13Speaker 2: little bit of a flu game right now, but Evan,
- 27:16Speaker 2: who gets your game ball for this Giant Vikings game?
- 27:19Speaker 1: I feel like I should go back and see how
- 27:21Speaker 1: many times I've done this this year, But it's probably
- 27:24Speaker 1: been a lot. It's probably at least like four or
- 27:26Speaker 1: five maybe I don't know, six'. Seven, SORRY i had
- 27:30Speaker 1: to do. That Blake, Cashman, yeah gets a game. Ball
- 27:34Speaker 1: the dude just continues to come, out ball out every
- 27:37Speaker 1: time he, plays leads the team in tackles every, week
- 27:40Speaker 1: and leads not just the, team but leads both teams
- 27:43Speaker 1: in tackles every game he, plays and he like basically
- 27:47Speaker 1: doubles the amount of tackles that anybody else. Has the
- 27:49Speaker 1: dude just has a nose for the ball and gets,
- 27:52Speaker 1: involved and he's he's the green dot on. Defense he's
- 27:56Speaker 1: the quarterback of the. Defense when he's. In we see
- 28:00Speaker 1: the difference that it makes because when he was, out
- 28:03Speaker 1: what did we say he missed four?
- 28:04Speaker 2: Games, yeah he was ON ira for the four games
- 28:07Speaker 2: there earlier on this season.
- 28:09Speaker 1: THAT i think those are the four worst games for
- 28:11Speaker 1: the defense this. Season so that guy just continues to show,
- 28:16Speaker 1: up show, out does his. Job he gets all the
- 28:21Speaker 1: game balls for the rest of The he's gonna get
- 28:23Speaker 1: a game ball for. Me, YEAH i mean.
- 28:24Speaker 2: WE i think you AND i spent a little bit
- 28:26Speaker 2: of time last week talking about how koc used the
- 28:31Speaker 2: term like the the intention of building the, roster and
- 28:35Speaker 2: he's a massive the probably the biggest piece on. Defense,
- 28:40Speaker 2: yeah you. Can you can Talk greynard And ben Game,
- 28:42Speaker 2: cool you can Talk Harrison, smith BUT i think this
- 28:46Speaker 2: defense begins and ends With Blake. Cashman AND i know
- 28:51Speaker 2: we looked it up last, week BUT i don't. REMEMBER
- 28:53Speaker 2: i don't think he's set to be a free agent
- 28:55Speaker 2: after this. Season let me let me just double check really.
- 29:02Speaker 2: QUICK i think he's signed through twenty twenty Six. Cashman,
- 29:07Speaker 2: YES i think he's on the roster for twenty. Seven,
- 29:10Speaker 2: well that's a void. Year so, yeah he's definitely signed
- 29:14Speaker 2: through twenty twenty, six and then twenty twenty seven and
- 29:16Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight are void years on his, contract so
- 29:19Speaker 2: he'll be a free or he's set to be a
- 29:21Speaker 2: free agent after next. Season so that's still. Good he's
- 29:25Speaker 2: like twenty nine right, Now he'll be thirty next. Year
- 29:27Speaker 2: he's definitely the piece of this defense and one that
- 29:31Speaker 2: you may not know exactly why the defense isn't playing
- 29:34Speaker 2: very well when he's not on the, field but you
- 29:38Speaker 2: definitely notice that they're not playing up to the level
- 29:41Speaker 2: they should be when he's not on the. Field so,
- 29:44Speaker 2: YEAH i definitely agree with. It he could be an
- 29:46Speaker 2: overall TEAM mvp of this year on a year where
- 29:50Speaker 2: there's not a lot of bright, spots he's one of the.
- 29:52Speaker 2: BRIGHTEST i think for my game ball this, Week i'm
- 29:58Speaker 2: Going Aaron. JONES i think he missed a chunk in
- 30:02Speaker 2: the middle of the game because his, ankle but he
- 30:05Speaker 2: came back in and in that second half ONCE jj
- 30:09Speaker 2: McCarthy was, Down, Yeah Max, brosmer he came. In he
- 30:12Speaker 2: was seven for, nine fifty two, yards played, Okay he
- 30:15Speaker 2: had a really good ball To Justin, jefferson played, okay
- 30:18Speaker 2: and you, know commanded the. Offense it's one Reason i'm
- 30:22Speaker 2: not super, concerned you, know about the level of play
- 30:26Speaker 2: being way different On christmas With brozemer in there rather than.
- 30:30Speaker 2: McCarthy But Aaron, jones he only came in and helped
- 30:35Speaker 2: out his, team helped out his, quarterback made sure the
- 30:37Speaker 2: offense kept going an average of four yards of, carry which,
- 30:42Speaker 2: isn't you, know A hall Of fame, Worthy but for one,
- 30:44Speaker 2: game for this, game when The vikings needed, It Aaron
- 30:49Speaker 2: jones came, in especially With Jordan. Mason sounds Like Jordan
- 30:52Speaker 2: mason On christmas is not going to be OR i
- 30:56Speaker 2: think they're saying he's still feeling.
- 30:58Speaker 1: It truth be.
- 30:59Speaker 2: Told kevin, O'Connell i think is literally at this moment
- 31:02Speaker 2: having his press, Conference so we're getting a little bit
- 31:05Speaker 2: of news Like Ryan, KELLY i guess he's out this.
- 31:08Speaker 2: Week he may be. Center Ryan. Kelly he may be
- 31:11Speaker 2: done a sixth. CONCUSSION i don't know if that's been
- 31:14Speaker 2: confirmed yet or.
- 31:15Speaker 1: Not he may be.
- 31:17Speaker 2: DONE i Think KOs said That Jordan mason is still feeling.
- 31:21Speaker 2: It so it's just it's tough when you have shut
- 31:24Speaker 2: such a short. Turnaround mason might be. Out So Aaron,
- 31:27Speaker 2: jones if he can, go he's only going to be
- 31:29Speaker 2: helping this team out so much more, so all you,
- 31:32Speaker 2: know for his grit and his ability to come in
- 31:35Speaker 2: and keep the offense. Going he gets my game ball
- 31:38Speaker 2: AND i think he got an actual game. BALL i
- 31:41Speaker 2: think KOs literally Said Aaron, JONES i love you not
- 31:44Speaker 2: LIKE i love, you, man LIKE i love you like So,
- 31:47Speaker 2: yeah THAT'S.
- 31:48Speaker 1: I think he's.
- 31:49Speaker 2: Deserving and this may be his last couple of games
- 31:53Speaker 2: with The vikings. Too, yeah it'll be interesting to, SEE
- 31:56Speaker 2: i think you commented when we were watching the, game
- 31:59Speaker 2: he had like a basically an.
- 32:00Speaker 1: Entire roll of tape on his. Goal like the dude
- 32:04Speaker 1: wanted to stay in the. GAME i didn't want to come,
- 32:07Speaker 1: out and just kept telling the trainers on the, sideline
- 32:09Speaker 1: just put more tape on. It it'll be, Fine just
- 32:11Speaker 1: put more tape on. It and we saw him like
- 32:13Speaker 1: hobbling around after a few, plays and we're, like, man
- 32:16Speaker 1: he needs to just come out of the. Game but
- 32:18Speaker 1: he put his head down and fought through. It he
- 32:20Speaker 1: got a big first down there at the end of the,
- 32:22Speaker 1: game IF i remember, Right, yeah kind of sealed the.
- 32:24Speaker 2: Deal was it not even a? RECEPTION i think was
- 32:26Speaker 2: that a run or a? CATCH i think it was a. Run, Okay,
- 32:30Speaker 2: yeah he only had two catches for eight. Yards but,
- 32:33Speaker 2: yeah it was funny because he he did look extremely taped.
- 32:37Speaker 2: UP i, THINK i tweeted and said it looks like
- 32:39Speaker 2: he's got casts. On, yeah like, well and even liked
- 32:43Speaker 2: it out right before that kind of game ceiling first
- 32:46Speaker 2: down that he ran, for he was. Hobbling he's like,
- 32:49Speaker 2: limping like going to the huddle and, stuff and it's, like,
- 32:52Speaker 2: man just, dude we're gonna. Win, anyways just come.
- 32:54Speaker 1: Out of the. Game and no he. Didn't and then
- 32:56Speaker 1: he got up and he did his, huge you, know
- 32:59Speaker 1: his big celebration, afterwards and they're, like all, right that's
- 33:02Speaker 1: what you. Wanted don't hurt yourself, anymore.
- 33:05Speaker 2: Please kind of a. Bummer he was ON ir two
- 33:09Speaker 2: for for quite a. WHILE i think he had a
- 33:11Speaker 2: pretty decent hamstring.
- 33:12Speaker 1: Injury this.
- 33:14Speaker 2: Year he's only got four hundred and ninety five rushing,
- 33:16Speaker 2: yards and REALLY i didn't realize it one rushing. TOUCHDOWN
- 33:22Speaker 2: i thought his stats were just a little bit better than.
- 33:25Speaker 2: That BUT i can't complain about him as A. Viking
- 33:28Speaker 2: he's he's only ever impressed. ME i was kind of
- 33:32Speaker 2: wondering why The vikings signed him when they did before last,
- 33:35Speaker 2: season BECAUSE i THINK i said it on.
- 33:37Speaker 1: The show a few.
- 33:38Speaker 2: Times Aaron, jones he's about to be, Thirty, LIKE i
- 33:40Speaker 2: don't expect anything from, HIM i, THINK i, said, like
- 33:43Speaker 2: if he gets one one hundred yard rushing, game Like
- 33:46Speaker 2: i'll be super. Happy other than, that, LIKE i don't
- 33:49Speaker 2: really expect, anything but he has gone over and above my.
- 33:53Speaker 2: Expectations he's really been a bright another bright. SPOT i,
- 33:56Speaker 2: Said cashman was one of the few bright. SPOTS i
- 33:58Speaker 2: Think Aaron jones when he's been on the field has
- 34:01Speaker 2: been another one of those few bright spots for this.
- 34:03Speaker 2: Team so, yep that's why he gets my game ball this.
- 34:06Speaker 1: Week, yeah both well. DESERVING i think of a game
- 34:09Speaker 1: ball for. Sure anything else we want to cover on
- 34:12Speaker 1: the win over The giants At. MetLife i think it's
- 34:16Speaker 1: kind of a bummer that this any other. Year IF
- 34:20Speaker 1: jj McCarthy was healthy and played the way he, did you,
- 34:24Speaker 1: know against The, commanders against The cowboys and then up
- 34:28Speaker 1: until he got knocked out of the game against The,
- 34:29Speaker 1: giants if he just was at that level all, season.
- 34:35Speaker 2: The offense would have done just. Enough and then this,
- 34:38Speaker 2: DEFENSE i don't know where it ranks statistically in the
- 34:41Speaker 2: history Of vikings OR nfl, defenses but this defense feels
- 34:45Speaker 2: like an elite. Defense if you look at the season
- 34:49Speaker 2: The vikings have been in just about every. Game, yeah
- 34:54Speaker 2: they're wins and losses aren't where you want him to,
- 34:56Speaker 2: be but it has not been for of defensive. Performance
- 35:01Speaker 2: AND i think that's that's really why this team has been.
- 35:05Speaker 2: Good there when they've been, good that they've been.
- 35:08Speaker 1: GOOD i think.
- 35:09Speaker 2: Their worst points they've allowed against The chargers was they you,
- 35:15Speaker 2: know The chargers scored thirty seven. POINTS i don't remember
- 35:17Speaker 2: how many of those were given up by The vikings.
- 35:19Speaker 2: Offense but, YEAH i mean this defense just consistently goes out,
- 35:23Speaker 2: there does what they've they've been doing all. Year had a,
- 35:29Speaker 2: yeah a couple couple shutouts this year or, no just
- 35:33Speaker 2: the one. Shutout it's just that it was right after
- 35:35Speaker 2: The vikings offense got shut. Out but all that to,
- 35:38Speaker 2: say this defense just did really good against The giants as. Well,
- 35:42Speaker 2: Again Jackson dart threw for three three yards like that's
- 35:47Speaker 2: that's just them not trying to pass the ball against The.
- 35:51Speaker 2: Vikings Jalen redman he's Got he's an interior defensive lineman
- 35:56Speaker 2: who played in THE ufl two seasons.
- 35:58Speaker 1: Ago he's got six sacks this.
- 35:59Speaker 2: Year Blake cashman just gritting it out and. PLAYING i
- 36:03Speaker 2: think if The vikings have Any Pro bowl, snubs which
- 36:06Speaker 2: we can kind of talk about This Blake. Cashman he's
- 36:08Speaker 2: probably the, biggest if any the biggest case for being
- 36:13Speaker 2: A Pro bowl snub for The vikings this. Year this
- 36:16Speaker 2: defense has been playing very well and hopefully we get
- 36:19Speaker 2: at least another year Of Brian.
- 36:21Speaker 1: Flores, yeah The vikings are easily a top five team
- 36:26Speaker 1: defensively on the, season and that's RUSH epa per play
- 36:31Speaker 1: allowed drop BACK epa play per play. Allowed the best
- 36:36Speaker 1: defense in the League's. Houston second best is The rams
- 36:40Speaker 1: by the, numbers and then after that it's The, vikings The,
- 36:45Speaker 1: browns The, eagles The, bills The, jags The. Seahawks they're
- 36:49Speaker 1: all kind of right in that mix. Clusteria BUT i
- 36:53Speaker 1: think The vikings defensively are better than a lot of
- 36:57Speaker 1: those other. TEAMS i don't know about The, rams don't
- 37:00Speaker 1: know about The, texans BUT i can DEFINITELY i would
- 37:03Speaker 1: feel comfortable putting The vikings at third or fourth best
- 37:07Speaker 1: in the league to this point on the.
- 37:09Speaker 2: Season, well and even in This giants. Game, yeah The
- 37:11Speaker 2: giants scored thirteen, points but remember Seven the only touchdown
- 37:16Speaker 2: The giants scored was that fumble recovery By Tyler nuban
- 37:20Speaker 2: for a. Touchdown The vikings defense only allowed six. Points,
- 37:27Speaker 2: crazy just absolutely. Crazy so AND i know The giants
- 37:30Speaker 2: are two and, thirteen you, know they're not the cream
- 37:32Speaker 2: of the, crop but they're still AN nfl. Team they
- 37:36Speaker 2: still had A pro. BOWLER i think The, vikings The,
- 37:38Speaker 2: jets and The saints were the only teams to not
- 37:41Speaker 2: have a initially Voted pro, Bowler SO i mean there's
- 37:45Speaker 2: still The giants are still AN nfl. Team so all
- 37:48Speaker 2: that to, say The vikings defense this game and all
- 37:52Speaker 2: season has been doing. WELL i did think it was
- 37:55Speaker 2: fun THAT. Cj ham this, week you, know week what
- 37:59Speaker 2: was it, sixteen had more rushing yards Than Jamier. Gibbs
- 38:04Speaker 2: that's pretty.
- 38:05Speaker 1: Funny AND.
- 38:06Speaker 2: Cj ham had three rushing. Yards so that tells you
- 38:10Speaker 2: all you need to know about The lions and their
- 38:12Speaker 2: game against The.
- 38:13Speaker 1: Steelers but all those fantasy owners out there who Had
- 38:15Speaker 1: Jamiir gibbs and they're playing in the playoffs right, now they're, like,
- 38:18Speaker 1: man come, ON i bet What Jamiir gibbs probably only
- 38:22Speaker 1: got like one point in.
- 38:23Speaker 2: FANTASY i, mean, YEAH i don't know his full fantasy,
- 38:25Speaker 2: points and that's only RUSHING i don't know if he
- 38:27Speaker 2: had any receiving, stats but, yeah it. Is it is
- 38:33Speaker 2: fun to think that our you, know Tenured vikings full
- 38:37Speaker 2: back had more rushing yards than A Pro bowl.
- 38:39Speaker 1: Level he might have even made The Pro. BOWL i
- 38:41Speaker 1: don't know running back for The.
- 38:42Speaker 2: Lions and the only other THING i have for This
- 38:45Speaker 2: giants game Is Will record continues to be perfect on this.
- 38:49Speaker 2: Season and, YES i know he technically missed, two but
- 38:54Speaker 2: those aren't his fault when the camera wire knocks the
- 38:58Speaker 2: ball out of. Play and that's my official. OPINION i
- 39:02Speaker 2: Think i've said it back and forth a few times
- 39:04Speaker 2: whether or NOT i Think Will record actually hit the camera.
- 39:07Speaker 2: Wire i'm going for it from now on in my, Head,
- 39:11Speaker 2: cannon regardless of the. Truth maybe it's one THING i
- 39:14Speaker 2: can Ask god in heaven one, day what was the
- 39:17Speaker 2: actual thing that? Happened but as far As i'm, concerned
- 39:21Speaker 2: the wire interfered with him twice this, year so he's
- 39:23Speaker 2: perfect on the. Season he was three for three with
- 39:27Speaker 2: an extra point made against The.
- 39:29Speaker 1: Giants coming back To gibbs really, QUICK i looked it.
- 39:32Speaker 1: Up gibbs actually scored twenty twos in fantasy this. Week
- 39:37Speaker 1: he had a really good receiving. Game he had sixty
- 39:40Speaker 1: six receiving. Yards he only had he had ten, Receptions
- 39:47Speaker 1: so in A ppr, league that's ten points right, there
- 39:51Speaker 1: plus sixty six receiving, yards so six point six yards
- 39:55Speaker 1: per catch on. Average he only rushed the ball for two.
- 39:58Speaker 1: Yards he had a receiving touchdown for six, points so
- 40:03Speaker 1: he still had a pretty good. Game SO.
- 40:04Speaker 2: Cj ham's entire, CAREER i guess never. MIND i was gonna, say, like,
- 40:11Speaker 2: oh Maybe Jamior gibbs had more receiving yards in that
- 40:14Speaker 2: game Than CJ's C. J hamm has had in his entire,
- 40:16Speaker 2: Career but, no that's not true at.
- 40:18Speaker 1: ALL.
- 40:19Speaker 2: Cj hamm for his career receiving six hundred and seventy five, yards,
- 40:24Speaker 2: yeah and two. TOUCHDOWNS i would have guessed way less
- 40:27Speaker 2: just because he's a, fullback you. Know, Yeah but how
- 40:29Speaker 2: many TIMES i guess now THAT i think about, it
- 40:31Speaker 2: have we seen like he was like the dump off
- 40:34Speaker 2: option For Kirk, Cousins and it's like All Kirk cousins
- 40:37Speaker 2: does is dump it. Off his best year receiving was
- 40:40Speaker 2: twenty nineteen with one hundred and forty nine yards and a.
- 40:43Speaker 2: Touchdown so, yeah, SORRY i was about to put some
- 40:47Speaker 2: shame ON. C. J ham's name, jokingly something you did
- 40:50Speaker 2: on episode one about when you THOUGHT. C. J hamm
- 40:53Speaker 2: would get cut three years. Ago so he's still, kicking
- 40:58Speaker 2: so still, here he's Still. Viking he'll be he'll be
- 41:01Speaker 2: A viking for. LIFE i THINK i think he'll he'll
- 41:04Speaker 2: be done. Soon and do you THINK. Cj ham has
- 41:08Speaker 2: more receiving yards in his career or rushing yards in his?
- 41:11Speaker 1: Career m? M he said six hundred something receiving, yards?
- 41:18Speaker 1: Right how many seasons has he? Played?
- 41:23Speaker 2: This twenty twenty five is his ninth.
- 41:25Speaker 1: Season ninth. Season, Okay i'm still gonna say rushing, yards
- 41:30Speaker 1: but marginally.
- 41:30Speaker 2: More so you THINK. Cj ham has had more rushing
- 41:33Speaker 2: yards than receiving. Yards SO i already said he had
- 41:35Speaker 2: six hundred and seventy five receiving yards with two touchdowns
- 41:42Speaker 2: in you, know the same amount of. Time he has
- 41:44Speaker 2: scored five rushing, touchdowns one of them coming just a
- 41:48Speaker 2: couple of weeks, ago, right and that is all off
- 41:53Speaker 2: of one hundred and eighteen rushing. Year really, yeah, wow
- 41:56Speaker 2: that's actually. Crazy that's that's, Insane BUT i guess it
- 42:00Speaker 2: makes sense to do he probably gets more opportunities as
- 42:03Speaker 2: a dump off receiving, option you, know than a, designed
- 42:07Speaker 2: planned rushing, option because that's what it would have to
- 42:10Speaker 2: be if he's rushing the balls like it was designed
- 42:13Speaker 2: for him to run the, ball unless he's picking up
- 42:15Speaker 2: a fumble or. Something but, yeah this has been your C.
- 42:19Speaker 2: J hamm segment of the.
- 42:21Speaker 1: Podcasts that just makes me, THINK i forget what game it.
- 42:25Speaker 1: WAS i don't know if it was The bears game
- 42:27Speaker 1: or The packers. Game it certainly wasn't The seahawks, game
- 42:31Speaker 1: but there was a The vikings went for it on
- 42:34Speaker 1: third and, one didn't get, it went for it again
- 42:36Speaker 1: on fourth and one in the red zone or near
- 42:38Speaker 1: the red, zone and they passed the ball on fourth and.
- 42:42Speaker 1: One THEN i think something bad. HAPPENED i can't remember
- 42:45Speaker 1: if it was an interception or, whatnot but like we
- 42:47Speaker 1: came back on the episode and we're just, like run
- 42:49Speaker 1: the ball in that, situation and then if you don't,
- 42:52Speaker 1: convert as long as there's no, fumble it's basically as
- 42:55Speaker 1: good as a. Punt you pin them deep in their own. Territory.
- 42:58Speaker 1: Whatever the interception kind of flipped the. Game, AGAIN i
- 43:02Speaker 1: forget what game this was but.
- 43:04Speaker 2: This whole season has been a blur of just disappointment
- 43:07Speaker 2: and anger and but pro vanity at THE.
- 43:09Speaker 1: Tv in that, situation why wouldn't you give it TO.
- 43:14Speaker 1: Cj ham and allow him to bully himself forward for one?
- 43:19Speaker 2: Yard and that's what they did a couple of weeks
- 43:21Speaker 2: ago against, well here we, can we can look this.
- 43:25Speaker 1: Up it was Against. Philly, No philly was a long time.
- 43:29Speaker 2: Ago his, Touchdown, oh it was Against. Dallas he rushed
- 43:33Speaker 2: it for one yard probably on third or fourth and
- 43:37Speaker 2: one for the. TOUCHDOWN i think that was fourth, down
- 43:41Speaker 2: and they like faked a pitch to somebody else and
- 43:44Speaker 2: handed it off to. Him but LIKE i, said this
- 43:46Speaker 2: whole season's been a blur of you, know misery and,
- 43:49Speaker 2: pain much like most Other viking. Seasons but, yeah we
- 43:54Speaker 2: are C.
- 43:54Speaker 1: J hamm.
- 43:55Speaker 2: FANS i like to Give evan grief for having that you,
- 43:58Speaker 2: know hot predict two years ago THAT cjm might not
- 44:02Speaker 2: make the, team but that was more like he's a
- 44:05Speaker 2: full back and The vikings might not employ a. Fullback
- 44:08Speaker 2: we are both ham, FANS i. Think on the something
- 44:12Speaker 2: we've mentioned a few times recently since one of the
- 44:15Speaker 2: other players quit on the team there's a short list
- 44:18Speaker 2: of jerseys THAT i think you can confidently wear yourself
- 44:22Speaker 2: and buy for your kids of guys that you, know
- 44:26Speaker 2: they're just Good, Vikings they're good. People you just you
- 44:29Speaker 2: want to support them and rep their.
- 44:31Speaker 1: NAME. C.
- 44:32Speaker 2: J ham is absolutely at the top of the. List
- 44:35Speaker 2: that might be a good, segment maybe an offseason, segment
- 44:38Speaker 2: like All Time vikings who they're golden, jerseys you, know
- 44:42Speaker 2: you can wear them. Forever Robert smith might be. One you,
- 44:45Speaker 2: Know tarkentin might be, one you, KNOW.
- 44:48Speaker 1: I, mean we got to have a full. Episode BUT
- 44:51Speaker 1: i think is definitely on that.
- 44:53Speaker 2: LIST a little spoiler for a segment that we haven't
- 44:56Speaker 2: even really planned for three months from, now who.
- 44:59Speaker 1: Knows let's talk about the fact that No vikings were
- 45:03Speaker 1: voted into The Pro. Bowl, yeah what the, Heck but
- 45:08Speaker 1: it just seems kind of par for the, course though
- 45:10Speaker 1: it doesn't necessarily like after what you just, said like
- 45:13Speaker 1: this season has been, disappointing it's been, painful it's been
- 45:16Speaker 1: hard to. Watch, well that's just kind of the cherry
- 45:18Speaker 1: on top or the non cherry on, top, Right like
- 45:22Speaker 1: it just it's. Stinks the whole thing has been, terrible
- 45:25Speaker 1: and now we won't get to watch our guys play
- 45:29Speaker 1: touch football In february or dodgeball or whatever they. Do, now.
- 45:37Speaker 2: Let's look up the, list and JUST i won't read
- 45:40Speaker 2: off the whole, list because if you guys want to
- 45:42Speaker 2: know who's in The Pro, bowl you can just google it. Yourself,
- 45:44Speaker 2: because LIKE i, said the argument for, oh if A
- 45:47Speaker 2: viking would have should have made it, in who would
- 45:50Speaker 2: you take? OUT i think the one guy both of
- 45:52Speaker 2: us would really advocate for this year would have Been Blake.
- 45:57Speaker 2: Cashman there may be one or two other, GUYS i
- 46:00Speaker 2: don't think just based off, Stats, Yeah Justin jefferson is
- 46:07Speaker 2: the best wide receiver in THE. Nfl BUT i, mean
- 46:10Speaker 2: if you're just looking off stats this, year, YEAH i,
- 46:13Speaker 2: agree he's not A pro, bowler and unfortunately as a,
- 46:16Speaker 2: receiver that's you, know it's not fully up to. You but, Quarterback,
- 46:22Speaker 2: no The vikings don't have A Pro bowl quarterback this.
- 46:24Speaker 2: Year running back, NO i mean full. Back that's just
- 46:28Speaker 2: kind of a popularity contest. Position, anyways it's us check
- 46:33Speaker 2: this year for The, niners no wide receivers for The.
- 46:37Speaker 2: Vikings i'm just kind of going down and looking at
- 46:40Speaker 2: who did make it.
- 46:41Speaker 3: In, No.
- 46:42Speaker 2: TITANDS i think, eventually maybe like A Donovan jackson who
- 46:47Speaker 2: has played really well on the offensive, line maybe he
- 46:50Speaker 2: could be A Pro. BOWLER i think if you have
- 46:53Speaker 2: a year Where christian.
- 46:54Speaker 1: Dar saw is fully.
- 46:55Speaker 2: Healthy he's never made it, yet BUT i think if
- 46:59Speaker 2: you get a season of Healthy, darisaw even this year
- 47:03Speaker 2: when he was, IN i think he played pretty. Well
- 47:05Speaker 2: people were upset that he wasn't in and you, know
- 47:07Speaker 2: missed a lot of, time and it's a knee for
- 47:11Speaker 2: a guy that he needs a good. Base BUT i
- 47:14Speaker 2: think eventually he'll get. In Ryan kelly, unfortunately you, know
- 47:20Speaker 2: he might be. Done SO i don't think he's deserving
- 47:22Speaker 2: of A Pro bowl honor this. Year on the, DEFENSE i, mean,
- 47:28Speaker 2: YEAH i think you could make a case For Jalen,
- 47:32Speaker 2: redmond BUT i don't think he has the name recognition
- 47:35Speaker 2: yet to be able to be voted. In you, Know
- 47:40Speaker 2: grenard And Van ginkel both missed some time this, year
- 47:43Speaker 2: and their numbers weren't off the, charts you, know compared
- 47:46Speaker 2: to other. GUYS i don't think any outside linebackers should
- 47:50Speaker 2: be taken away just for. Them, yeah that's it's probably.
- 47:53Speaker 2: FAIR i don't think there was like an obvious crazy
- 47:56Speaker 2: snub for The vikings this, year at least for. Me
- 47:59Speaker 2: what do you think any that absolutely should have been
- 48:01Speaker 2: in that didn't get.
- 48:02Speaker 1: IN i think your, SPECIALISTS i think Uh, De, paula,
- 48:06Speaker 1: right And record all are probably. DESERVING i, Mean reikerd
- 48:11Speaker 1: other than those two missed field goals because of the,
- 48:14Speaker 1: wires is basically. Perfect we're gonna say he's. Perfect Ryan
- 48:19Speaker 1: right has kind of had a. Resurgence he WAS i
- 48:24Speaker 1: think he had a down year last year or two years,
- 48:26Speaker 1: ago or it was two years.
- 48:27Speaker 2: AGO i think last year he really started looking. Up
- 48:29Speaker 2: we were trying to you, know before last, season we were,
- 48:32Speaker 2: like all, right who's who's gonna be the punter? Now
- 48:34Speaker 2: Because Ryan right he had a terrible year of the year.
- 48:36Speaker 2: Before but last year and this year he's been really
- 48:38Speaker 2: looked really.
- 48:39Speaker 1: Good And Andrew depaula like, you you don't talk about
- 48:42Speaker 1: your long snapper unless there's an, issue and there's rarely
- 48:45Speaker 1: ever an, issue if, Ever LIKE i don't think we've
- 48:48Speaker 1: sat here and talked about like, man that snap on
- 48:50Speaker 1: that field goal or that snap on that punt was
- 48:53Speaker 1: terrible and it led to this catastrophic play happened that
- 49:00Speaker 1: led to you, know the you know a. Loss, yeah
- 49:04Speaker 1: like HE'S i don't. KNOW i think all three of those.
- 49:07Speaker 1: GUYS i Think Blake cashman we mentioned. IT i think
- 49:09Speaker 1: he's kind of a. SNUB i know he missed, time
- 49:12Speaker 1: BUT i think the fact that he missed playing time
- 49:16Speaker 1: shows how crazy good he. Is like he's still he's
- 49:20Speaker 1: a top twenty tackler in the. League missing four, Games,
- 49:24Speaker 1: yeah like he's up. There AND i think you could
- 49:28Speaker 1: maybe make a case For Isaiah. Rodgers he had that
- 49:33Speaker 1: really splashy game at the beginning of, it all the miss.
- 49:35Speaker 1: TACKLES i, mean that's.
- 49:37Speaker 2: PLAYED i Think rogers specifically played really well against The,
- 49:40Speaker 2: giants but he's been up and down this.
- 49:43Speaker 1: Year but, YEAH i mean, Yeah i'm just trying to
- 49:46Speaker 1: think of players that are, like, well maybe you could
- 49:49Speaker 1: make the case for, them rather than just saying, like, well,
- 49:51Speaker 1: no it was a bad year and we're just gonna say,
- 49:53Speaker 1: no one deserves to get, In like there's always. DON'T
- 49:56Speaker 1: i feel like there are always players on every team
- 49:58Speaker 1: that deserve to get. In they just don't get. It
- 50:01Speaker 1: those are just some of the. PLAYERS i agree with.
- 50:04Speaker 2: You i'm the specialist for, sure but so for the.
- 50:07Speaker 2: Punter the voted punter ON nfcu Was tressway for The.
- 50:12Speaker 2: Commanders i'm not Watching commanders football unless they're they're losing
- 50:17Speaker 2: in a shoutout to The. Vikings and ADMITTEDLY i don't
- 50:21Speaker 2: remember anything About trussway in that, game BUT i can't
- 50:25Speaker 2: argue BECAUSE i didn't pay enough. Attention maybe his numbers are,
- 50:29Speaker 2: better and maybe he is an overall better punter Than Ryan,
- 50:32Speaker 2: wright BUT i can't argue Kicker Brandon. AUBREY i think
- 50:36Speaker 2: that's one that's that's name. Recognition we Witnessed Brandon aubrey
- 50:41Speaker 2: missing two field goals against The vikings, alone AND i
- 50:45Speaker 2: don't know the rest of his season's. Numbers i'd be
- 50:49Speaker 2: interested to know his long for this year if it
- 50:52Speaker 2: was more than sixty two. Yards excuse, Me i'm burping
- 50:55Speaker 2: here BECAUSE i do Know ryan Or Will right who
- 51:00Speaker 2: will be a pro. Bowler i'm just gonna say it right,
- 51:02Speaker 2: now whether he's A viking or, not sometime In Will rekord's,
- 51:06Speaker 2: career he will absolutely be a pro bowler because he's
- 51:09Speaker 2: Just he's only ever been solid and really, good and
- 51:15Speaker 2: he's still perfect on extra. Points he does have that
- 51:19Speaker 2: sixty two yard kick from where was? That was that
- 51:22Speaker 2: AT Us bank or was that In? LONDON i don't
- 51:24Speaker 2: remember exactly like it was In, london but Will Record
- 51:28Speaker 2: sure you could convince me IF i looked at the,
- 51:30Speaker 2: numbers Which i'm not deep diving right, now That aubrey
- 51:33Speaker 2: deserves it more than Will. Record BUT i do Think
- 51:35Speaker 2: Will record this year and in his career so, far both,
- 51:38Speaker 2: seasons he's he's on the way to being the NFL's best,
- 51:43Speaker 2: kicker and he's in the conversation right. Now as far
- 51:47Speaker 2: as long, snappers that's such a difficult thing to. Evaluate
- 51:51Speaker 2: like you, said we don't think about long snappers unless
- 51:54Speaker 2: we can notice like oh that snap was, terrible or
- 51:57Speaker 2: if they get hurt or you, know they snap it
- 52:01Speaker 2: in the dirt or way too. HIGH i do Know
- 52:05Speaker 2: depaula has been absolutely solid for The vikings for what
- 52:09Speaker 2: three years? Now how long has he been on the.
- 52:10Speaker 2: Team this is his second.
- 52:12Speaker 1: Year last year was.
- 52:14Speaker 2: Okay now he's he's, older he's like thirty six.
- 52:17Speaker 1: Who were talking about and sorry there still.
- 52:20Speaker 2: On but, YEAH i think that long snapper that's, here
- 52:25Speaker 2: neither here nor. There for, ME i want A viking
- 52:27Speaker 2: to be in The Pro.
- 52:28Speaker 1: Bowl but Like.
- 52:29Speaker 2: Depaula he's been. THERE i think he's made the last
- 52:32Speaker 2: TWO i think he's been like first Team All pro
- 52:34Speaker 2: long snapper the last two years. Too maybe this is
- 52:38Speaker 2: just one of those that they're letting another guy get a.
- 52:40Speaker 2: CHANCE i don't, know but, yeah other than, THAT i
- 52:43Speaker 2: don't think The vikings have any major. Snubs hopefully they
- 52:46Speaker 2: come back next. Year one THING i, SAID i do
- 52:50Speaker 2: Think Will record absolutely will be A Pro bowl kicker
- 52:53Speaker 2: at some. Point as far as punt returner or kick,
- 52:57Speaker 2: RETURNER i think they they don't signate punt or you, know,
- 53:01Speaker 2: kickoff but they just have a kick.
- 53:03Speaker 1: Returner Rashid shaheed.
- 53:06Speaker 2: Made it and he did have that punt return for
- 53:09Speaker 2: a touchdown Against, well he plays for The.
- 53:12Speaker 1: Seahawks who do they just? Beat? Recently he got traded
- 53:14Speaker 1: to the Seas, yeah, yeah from The. Saints he started
- 53:17Speaker 1: the season with The. Saints but they just beat? Somebody
- 53:20Speaker 1: was it The? Rams they just? Beat it was Last thursday.
- 53:22Speaker 2: Time, yeah and he had that that punt return for
- 53:25Speaker 2: a touchdown that totally changed the. Game and then The
- 53:27Speaker 2: seahawks came back and. WON i wonder if that really
- 53:31Speaker 2: changed the narrative on. Him Miles price for The. VIKINGS
- 53:35Speaker 2: i think he's another guy that if he keeps doing
- 53:38Speaker 2: what he's been doing and cleans up the ball security,
- 53:41Speaker 2: issues which he. Hasn't we haven't been worried about him
- 53:44Speaker 2: ball security wise for a few weeks. Now Miles price
- 53:48Speaker 2: could be a guy that in the future we look
- 53:50Speaker 2: at as, like, hey he could be a punt return you,
- 53:52Speaker 2: know a kick returner in The Pro bowl like. That
- 53:55Speaker 2: that's definitely something he should deserve, sometime not this, year
- 53:59Speaker 2: but some. Time.
- 54:00Speaker 1: Yeah, YEAH i don't disagree at. All, well it is
- 54:03Speaker 1: interesting that The vikings spent so much on this roster
- 54:08Speaker 1: for the season to end up like, this No Pro,
- 54:10Speaker 1: bowlers no. Playoffs, yeah possibly a losing. Record that's kind
- 54:15Speaker 1: OF tbd at this, point still up in the.
- 54:17Speaker 2: Air If i'm betting on, It i'd probably only bet
- 54:20Speaker 2: like ten, Bucks But i'd Say kevin O'Connell finds a
- 54:23Speaker 2: way to get the next two, games regardless of who's
- 54:26Speaker 2: in at.
- 54:27Speaker 1: Quarterback. Yeah, well and The lions have less to play
- 54:30Speaker 1: for than The packers. Do all The lions are still
- 54:32Speaker 1: fighting for their. Lives, THOUGH i, Know i'm just, saying,
- 54:35Speaker 1: like especially with, INJURIES i feel like The lions have
- 54:38Speaker 1: been one of the more injured teams in the league this.
- 54:42Speaker 1: Year they were that way last year, too IF i remember,
- 54:45Speaker 1: Right they're always hurt In. Detroit BUT i don't. Know
- 54:50Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see what happens On, christmas and
- 54:52Speaker 1: then it'll be interesting to see what happens the week
- 54:54Speaker 1: after in the final week of the Regular see do
- 54:57Speaker 1: we know the official day yet for That packer. GAME
- 55:00Speaker 1: i don't think they're gonna announce that until they usually announce,
- 55:03Speaker 1: that like during The sunday games After. CHRISTMAS i, THINK
- 55:07Speaker 1: i don't think it's STILL.
- 55:08Speaker 2: Tbd, Okay, WELL i googled it and this might be
- 55:11Speaker 2: an aideal and Says january fourth at one pm local. Time,
- 55:16Speaker 2: yeah it would be a noon game if. Anything, YEAH
- 55:21Speaker 2: i don't, know so twelve, pm, yeah noon On january, Fourth,
- 55:25Speaker 2: Sunday january, fourth which, is you, know a week and
- 55:29Speaker 2: a half after This thursday's. Game they get the mini
- 55:33Speaker 2: by which is. Great, yeah and to close it, out
- 55:35Speaker 2: maybe that'll, help you, know whatever hairline FRACTURE jj McCarthy,
- 55:39Speaker 2: HAS i genuinely, think AND i might be, wrong BUT
- 55:43Speaker 2: i think at this point IF jj McCarthy is if
- 55:47Speaker 2: he tells the coaches, like, YEAH i can grip a
- 55:49Speaker 2: ball AND i can, throw and he'd you, know maybe
- 55:51Speaker 2: they work him out and practice and stuff and make sure,
- 55:53Speaker 2: like yeah he, Can they're gonna.
- 55:55Speaker 1: Put him out, There like, YEAH i. Don't there's no
- 55:57Speaker 1: reason not.
- 55:58Speaker 2: To you're still looking to see what you can get
- 56:00Speaker 2: out of the. Kid AND i think if he comes
- 56:03Speaker 2: out in a totally meaningless game against The packers of all,
- 56:07Speaker 2: teams and looks, good that's your first step to next.
- 56:12Speaker 2: SEASON i, mean that's basically the first game of twenty twenty.
- 56:16Speaker 2: Six it literally will be in the calendar year of
- 56:18Speaker 2: twenty twenty. Six but IF jj McCarthy can AND i
- 56:21Speaker 2: Know i'm skipping ahead here a little, bit but if
- 56:23Speaker 2: he can come out and play against The packers and look,
- 56:27Speaker 2: good then that'll quite a lot of off season. Chatter
- 56:33Speaker 2: it won't totally negate all of, it but it will
- 56:36Speaker 2: go from like demanding A Joe burrow trade to all,
- 56:40Speaker 2: right maybe we just had our bets and draft a
- 56:42Speaker 2: quarterback in the second. Round you, know like that's how
- 56:46Speaker 2: much of a difference a good game FROM jj McCarthy
- 56:49Speaker 2: against The packers would.
- 56:50Speaker 1: MAKE i will disagree slightly with you that That packers
- 56:54Speaker 1: game isn't completely. Meaningless, SURE i think it's for The. Vikings,
- 56:59Speaker 1: yeah like who, Cares, like just throw caution to the,
- 57:02Speaker 1: wind put them out, there, yep see what. Happens but
- 57:05Speaker 1: The packers are still gonna be playing for something next.
- 57:08Speaker 1: Week it could be the, division it could be it
- 57:11Speaker 1: could be the number one. Seed i'm not expecting, that
- 57:14Speaker 1: but like there's a lot at stake for The packers
- 57:16Speaker 1: in these next couple of. Games so for The packers
- 57:19Speaker 1: it's certainly not, meaningless which makes it somewhat. Meaningful for The.
- 57:23Speaker 1: Vikings it's like a meaningless game would. BE i think
- 57:27Speaker 1: it was last season or two years ago when The
- 57:29Speaker 1: chiefs and The broncos played and The chiefs notably like
- 57:33Speaker 1: benched all of their, starters and The broncos won and
- 57:36Speaker 1: easily got into the playoffs because they. Won but it
- 57:40Speaker 1: was Because, michael you have to have. Cause it is Because,
- 57:46Speaker 1: sorry that was a weird, interjection but it was because
- 57:51Speaker 1: they The chiefs benched. Everybody that made it easy for
- 57:55Speaker 1: The broncos to like like handily win that game against The.
- 57:59Speaker 1: Chiefs that's a meaningless game in my, Opinion like if
- 58:03Speaker 1: The chiefs are, like, no we're not even gonna. Play Patrick,
- 58:05Speaker 1: Mahomes Travis, kelsey none of, Them like they're all gonna
- 58:08Speaker 1: sit because we're already the number one, season the. Playoffs
- 58:10Speaker 1: it is what it. Is, whatever then it's. Meaningless BUT
- 58:15Speaker 1: i think there's some meaning and and and it's and
- 58:19Speaker 1: it's The vikings and The.
- 58:20Speaker 2: Packers oh yeah that, game no matter what it. Means,
- 58:25Speaker 2: yeah you're you're gonna come to.
- 58:26Speaker 1: Play you're not gonna just you, know bench everybody and be, like,
- 58:29Speaker 1: oh play next. YEAR i guess there's too much pride
- 58:32Speaker 1: in that border.
- 58:33Speaker 2: BATTLE i wonder is there a way for The packers
- 58:37Speaker 2: to be eliminated from the playoffs before that? Game and
- 58:42Speaker 2: the only REASON i asked that is not to be
- 58:44Speaker 2: a Petty vikings. Fan it's to, say if it, is you,
- 58:48Speaker 2: know there's no playoffs on the, line maybe tickets will be.
- 58:51Speaker 2: Cheaper and we've done it at least. ONCE i feel
- 58:56Speaker 2: like you AND i have done it multiple. Times we've,
- 58:59Speaker 2: gone we've done it.
- 59:00Speaker 1: Twice, yeah we've gone to cheap end of season games
- 59:03Speaker 1: like the Fun we went to the final game of
- 59:05Speaker 1: The Zimmer era because tickets were forty. Bucks and Then
- 59:08Speaker 1: we went to the final game of the twenty twenty two,
- 59:12Speaker 1: Season kevin O'Connell's rookie, season because The vikings had already
- 59:16Speaker 1: clinched and The bears were fighting for the first overall,
- 59:19Speaker 1: pick and again tickets were like forty. Bucks, so, so,
- 59:23Speaker 1: okay CAN i on air? Production all, right let's do
- 59:26Speaker 1: it right? Now what are you doing On Sunday january?
- 59:30Speaker 2: Fourth that's literally Where i'm going. Here if tickets are cheap,
- 59:33Speaker 2: Enough i'm, saying.
- 59:34Speaker 1: So hear me, Out i'm probably gonna win our fantasy
- 59:39Speaker 1: football And i'm probably coming on some money because a
- 59:43Speaker 1: few DOLLARS i put fifty bucks in AND i Think
- 59:47Speaker 1: i'm gonna.
- 59:47Speaker 2: WIN i think you're guaranteed one hundred and fifty.
- 59:50Speaker 1: And guaranteed one hundred and. Fifty IF i win the whole,
- 59:52Speaker 1: Thing i'll get three. HUNDRED i will buy the. Tickets
- 59:56Speaker 1: you don't have to commit to that right. Now, No
- 59:57Speaker 1: i'm committing to it right. Now i'm committing your head
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: two and a half beers more than. That, no all,
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: right we're gonna do it on air production meeting, well
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: as of, RIGHT i will put my winnings towards THAT
- 1:00:10Speaker 1: i WAS i was already thinking about it, earlier BECAUSE
- 1:00:12Speaker 1: i was gonna bring this up at some point in the,
- 1:00:13Speaker 1: show AND i was, thinking, like, Hey i'm Gonna i'm
- 1:00:16Speaker 1: gonna give my winnings to the school high but, this
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: this seems like a good. Choice i've never Seen i've
- 1:00:23Speaker 1: never seen The vikings play the package in. Person, yeah
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: neither OF. I that would be. COOL i don't even.
- 1:00:28Speaker 2: Care like the season's already, done who. Cares it's all
- 1:00:31Speaker 2: fun now, Anyways like The vikings could lose by fifty and,
- 1:00:34Speaker 2: yeah that would, suck but like what are they going
- 1:00:37Speaker 2: to miss the playoffs even? Harder like there's there's nothing
- 1:00:41Speaker 2: to nothing to, lose and it's only a good memory to.
- 1:00:44Speaker 2: Gain so all, right as of right, Now i'm doing.
- 1:00:47Speaker 1: It i'm putting my money where my mouth.
- 1:00:49Speaker 2: IS i going to this ticket master right. Now the
- 1:00:52Speaker 2: cheapest TICKETS i can see are one hundred and twenty
- 1:00:56Speaker 2: seven dollars and thirty three. Cents AND i don't know
- 1:00:58Speaker 2: if that includes all the you, know.
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: The fees and the predatory, fees what. Everything we can
- 1:01:05Speaker 1: wait until the week before that.
- 1:01:06Speaker 2: Game but if it's, one that's WHY i brought it,
- 1:01:09Speaker 2: Up like if The packers could be eliminated before that,
- 1:01:12Speaker 2: game you, know tickets will maybe they won't go down
- 1:01:16Speaker 2: to forty dollars because it's Still Packers, vikings BUT i
- 1:01:21Speaker 2: mean maybe they'd be less than one.
- 1:01:22Speaker 1: Hundred who.
- 1:01:23Speaker 2: Knows it's something to keep an eye. On the skull
- 1:01:25Speaker 2: hop may be. Attending have we attended a game together
- 1:01:30Speaker 2: since the school hop. STARTED i think twenty twenty two
- 1:01:33Speaker 2: was when we went to our last game, together right
- 1:01:36Speaker 2: In Soldier. Field so you AND i went to a
- 1:01:40Speaker 2: game WHEN i still lived In Cedar.
- 1:01:43Speaker 1: Falls. Uh you picked me up essentially In Cedar. Falls
- 1:01:47Speaker 1: that Was Squad.
- 1:01:48Speaker 2: Cities that was The Vikings bears, game last game of
- 1:01:50Speaker 2: the season and the last game Of Matt naggie And
- 1:01:53Speaker 2: Mike zimmer's head coaching.
- 1:01:54Speaker 1: Careers. Yep and THEN i think the following year was
- 1:01:59Speaker 1: the first YEAR i lived. Here you AND i went
- 1:02:02Speaker 1: to The bears game At Soldier. Field remember we also
- 1:02:05Speaker 1: went to earlier in the. Year we went to The
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: Vikings cardinals game with friend.
- 1:02:10Speaker 2: Of The Chow forest and all three of our wives
- 1:02:14Speaker 2: and your brother in, law my brother just brother in, Law,
- 1:02:18Speaker 2: okay but that was still prior to the schoolhop. Existing
- 1:02:23Speaker 2: that was a season before we, started and so was
- 1:02:25Speaker 2: The bears game At Soldier, field The vikings at so
- 1:02:29Speaker 2: all of our lovely listeners really cared about all. That
- 1:02:31Speaker 2: but we haven't attended a game. Together AND i think
- 1:02:35Speaker 2: we've both attended one. Game you went to a preseason.
- 1:02:38Speaker 2: GAME i went to a regular season. Game but both
- 1:02:40Speaker 2: of us have only been to one game since we
- 1:02:43Speaker 2: started this. Podcast that's a that's an. Atrocity, well we've
- 1:02:48Speaker 2: made a. Plan it's not one hundred percent for me,
- 1:02:51Speaker 2: yet but we're getting. There it's because as of right,
- 1:02:57Speaker 2: now if we were to buy tickets right, now that
- 1:02:58Speaker 2: would be you winning the fantasy league and putting Which
- 1:03:02Speaker 2: i'm not going to let you put all of, that
- 1:03:05Speaker 2: putting all of it into a probably and more into
- 1:03:10Speaker 2: the tickets. There we need the equation to play out
- 1:03:14Speaker 2: a little bit more. Here we also need our wives to.
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: Approve BUT i think we can convince them it'll be. Fine,
- 1:03:19Speaker 1: YEAH i think it'll be. Good i'm just beaming with
- 1:03:23Speaker 1: pride right now BECAUSE i came up with this idea right,
- 1:03:25Speaker 1: here right now on. Air we're going to make this.
- 1:03:28Speaker 1: Happen you said you were already going to bring it. Up,
- 1:03:31Speaker 1: WELL i WAS i was GONNA i was going to
- 1:03:34Speaker 1: give my winnings to the School, hot BUT i didn't
- 1:03:36Speaker 1: know what that. Meant but NOW i know what it, means,
- 1:03:39Speaker 1: RIGHT i have. Clarity All, right it's all been like
- 1:03:43Speaker 1: the revelation has been made and we're Doing we're doing.
- 1:03:46Speaker 1: It we're going To Minneapolis january. Fourth we're going to
- 1:03:49Speaker 1: watch The vikings play The packers for the first time
- 1:03:52Speaker 1: together as School. Hobbros also seeing The vikings play The
- 1:03:57Speaker 1: packers for the first time, ever for us to advocate
- 1:04:01Speaker 1: if we can pull some strings to go up The
- 1:04:03Speaker 1: saturday night, anyways we can figure all that. Out if
- 1:04:09Speaker 1: you're listening and you're planning on attending The Vikings packers,
- 1:04:12Speaker 1: game maybe let us. Know maybe we can do a
- 1:04:14Speaker 1: little mini unofficial School hot.
- 1:04:16Speaker 2: Meetup that'd be. Cool anything else about the off season
- 1:04:21Speaker 2: before we look at the game before the, One we've
- 1:04:25Speaker 2: just been spending so much time talking ABOUT a quick.
- 1:04:29Speaker 2: Question do you think we've talked about THE, Gm we've
- 1:04:33Speaker 2: talked about, coaches we've talked about all of that. Before
- 1:04:36Speaker 2: real quick yes or? No maybe a one or two sentence.
- 1:04:39Speaker 2: Explanation do you think not having Any pro bowlers makes
- 1:04:44Speaker 2: it all that much more worse On kevin, O'Connell On,
- 1:04:49Speaker 2: quacy On Wes, phillips On.
- 1:04:54Speaker 1: Brian.
- 1:04:54Speaker 2: Flores do you think it makes everybody look that much?
- 1:04:57Speaker 2: Worse did the owners care about that enough for it
- 1:05:00Speaker 2: to tip the? Iceberg or do you think the situation
- 1:05:03Speaker 2: is already what it is and the owners have already, decided,
- 1:05:06Speaker 2: yeah we're gonna stick With quacy or? Not or was
- 1:05:09Speaker 2: this one of those like now that we know there's
- 1:05:12Speaker 2: no pro, bowlers you guys, Suck you're?
- 1:05:14Speaker 1: Out like what do you? THINK i think there's still
- 1:05:17Speaker 1: a little bit of margin For KOs And quacy from.
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: OWNERSHIP i don't think they're gonna cut bait and you,
- 1:05:25Speaker 1: know hope for something different next. Year so, REALISTICALLY i
- 1:05:31Speaker 1: Think quacy And KOs both have opportunities to make adjustments
- 1:05:37Speaker 1: to their, staffs make, adjustments go get it. ENERGIZED i
- 1:05:44Speaker 1: think they both have the capacity for, that and and
- 1:05:48Speaker 1: Maybe quacy more so Than. KOs i think the coaching
- 1:05:51Speaker 1: staff is pretty. SOLID i think the organization needs to
- 1:05:54Speaker 1: do whatever they can to Keep Brian flores because we
- 1:05:58Speaker 1: already talked about. It This vikings defense is, awesome and
- 1:06:04Speaker 1: even if you keep the core and bring in some new.
- 1:06:07Speaker 1: Players This vikings defense will be a top ten defense,
- 1:06:11Speaker 1: easily and probably a top five defense next year for,
- 1:06:15Speaker 1: sure even Without Harrison. Smith even WITHOUT i don't even
- 1:06:20Speaker 1: know Who i'm thinking. OF i ran out of names
- 1:06:22Speaker 1: in my, list BUT i don't Think Harrison smith comes
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: back next. Year so you, KNOW i really think that's
- 1:06:31Speaker 1: a concerted effort the organization. Makes this is way longer
- 1:06:34Speaker 1: than a two sentence. Explanation long story. Short you keep
- 1:06:40Speaker 1: the two head, guys you keep the two head. HONCHOS
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: i think they make, adjustments and maybe they feel a
- 1:06:46Speaker 1: little pressure from ownership to make adjustments to their. Stabs
- 1:06:51Speaker 1: we might see some minor, tweaks maybe a new special teams.
- 1:06:53Speaker 1: Coordinator maybe maybe there's a new offensive play caller In.
- 1:06:57Speaker 1: MINNESOTA i know a lot of people have been pounding
- 1:06:59Speaker 1: the table for. That that would FREE KOs up to
- 1:07:03Speaker 1: think differently about games and think more about game, situation clock,
- 1:07:07Speaker 1: management all of, that rather than trying to dial up
- 1:07:10Speaker 1: the perfect play for the. Situation we might see some
- 1:07:14Speaker 1: tweaks like. That that's What i'm. Expecting here's What i'm.
- 1:07:17Speaker 2: SAYING i was pretty adamant four or five episodes, ago,
- 1:07:22Speaker 2: three four or five episodes ago that The vikings need
- 1:07:25Speaker 2: to move on From. Quac i'm still in that, boat
- 1:07:28Speaker 2: and not having Any pro bowlers doesn't change that mindset from.
- 1:07:31Speaker 1: Me it doesn't.
- 1:07:32Speaker 2: Increase it and decrease it. WHATEVER i don't Think quac
- 1:07:36Speaker 2: is a GOOD NFL, gm And i'm not patient enough
- 1:07:42Speaker 2: to wait another decade for him to finally figure it
- 1:07:46Speaker 2: out as AN NFL.
- 1:07:47Speaker 1: Gm smart, dude good.
- 1:07:49Speaker 2: Dude he's probably really, awesome probably gives a, charity you,
- 1:07:53Speaker 2: know like everything about him personally seems. Awesome it's just
- 1:07:58Speaker 2: the math hasn't worked out for.
- 1:08:00Speaker 1: Him he's only had.
- 1:08:02Speaker 2: A few hits and a lot more misses as far
- 1:08:04Speaker 2: as free agents and draft. Picks mostly draft. Picks some
- 1:08:07Speaker 2: of his free agents have been really.
- 1:08:09Speaker 1: Good so that.
- 1:08:10Speaker 2: Doesn't change my. Mindset AND i will ARGUE i would
- 1:08:14Speaker 2: think the people that am saying take the play calling
- 1:08:18Speaker 2: From koc or you, know Fire. Koc that's not, prevalent
- 1:08:22Speaker 2: but it's been out. THERE i think he's done. Enough
- 1:08:25Speaker 2: since after That seahawks, game we've seen more development From
- 1:08:31Speaker 2: koc as a play, caller as a head, coach as
- 1:08:34Speaker 2: a planner in his. Hole, hey just go out there
- 1:08:37Speaker 2: and play. Football f. It don't worry about where your feet.
- 1:08:40Speaker 2: Are we've seen more growth from him than from anybody,
- 1:08:45Speaker 2: else INCLUDING jj, McCarthy and that has been the reason
- 1:08:49Speaker 2: we've seen such a.
- 1:08:50Speaker 1: Turnaround.
- 1:08:50Speaker 2: Now, yes you can make the argument The vikings haven't
- 1:08:53Speaker 2: played great teams the last three, weeks and they. Didn't
- 1:08:56Speaker 2: they barely beat The, giants you, know but The giants
- 1:08:59Speaker 2: are still an. TEAM i Think koc has already done
- 1:09:04Speaker 2: enough in the last three four games for me to
- 1:09:07Speaker 2: SAY i think he's, improved he's, developed he's. BETTER i
- 1:09:12Speaker 2: don't think you need to see any coaching. CHANGES i
- 1:09:14Speaker 2: think the only coaching changes maybe the special teams coordinator because.
- 1:09:18Speaker 1: There have been some.
- 1:09:19Speaker 2: Mishaps there were quite a. Few there was a couple
- 1:09:22Speaker 2: of games that were lost because of major special teams,
- 1:09:26Speaker 2: mishaps SO i could see it if they wanted to
- 1:09:30Speaker 2: move on From Matt. Daniels, also recently we haven't seen
- 1:09:34Speaker 2: those special teams, mishaps SO i don't. Know maybe they
- 1:09:36Speaker 2: fixed something. There Brian flores may get a head coaching.
- 1:09:40Speaker 2: JOB i think that's the only reason he would. Leave
- 1:09:44Speaker 2: it sounds like he's well, compensated sounds like he Likes
- 1:09:46Speaker 2: minnesota he's still actively suing THE, nfl or at least The.
- 1:09:52Speaker 2: DOLPHINS i think he would only leave for a head coaching,
- 1:09:57Speaker 2: job and it would have to be the right head coaching.
- 1:09:59Speaker 2: Job he wouldn't leave for a different defensive coordinator, job
- 1:10:02Speaker 2: AND i don't think The vikings would move on from.
- 1:10:04Speaker 2: Him i'm pretty Sure front of The Show dustin On
- 1:10:07Speaker 2: vikings territory just had an article today today or yesterday
- 1:10:11Speaker 2: about how it seems like from, sources The vikings absolutely
- 1:10:16Speaker 2: Want Brian floores, back and then offensive coordinator is basically
- 1:10:21Speaker 2: koc with his assistants. Whatever SO i don't think not
- 1:10:25Speaker 2: having Any pro bowlers should change any. Mindset i'm still
- 1:10:29Speaker 2: advocating for a NEW gm because it's.
- 1:10:32Speaker 1: Just not working. Out but you know what happens if
- 1:10:35Speaker 1: you get rid of THE, gm your head coach is
- 1:10:38Speaker 1: gonna go in the next. Year it's just not going to,
- 1:10:40Speaker 1: work and.
- 1:10:40Speaker 2: That's something for another. Show Dustin baker has also, said
- 1:10:43Speaker 2: like usually gms they want their own, guy just like
- 1:10:46Speaker 2: coaches they want their own. Quarterback you, know, LIKE i get.
- 1:10:49Speaker 1: THAT i like how you enunciated your point with the.
- 1:10:52Speaker 2: ELBOW i was just trying to WHILE i popped my elbow.
- 1:10:55Speaker 1: There that was.
- 1:10:57Speaker 2: Incredible but, yeah EITHER i think whether it's front staff coaching,
- 1:11:04Speaker 2: players this is going to be an interesting off season
- 1:11:08Speaker 2: for The. VIKINGS i mean you're talking they could do
- 1:11:13Speaker 2: something as radical as trade For Joe burrow or something
- 1:11:18Speaker 2: as crazy as fire THE gm and head, coach or
- 1:11:21Speaker 2: nothing at. All like the spectrum is way out there
- 1:11:26Speaker 2: and it's all as possible as each, other and this
- 1:11:29Speaker 2: could be a really interesting. Offseason the skulhop will have
- 1:11:32Speaker 2: plenty of things to talk.
- 1:11:33Speaker 1: About what would be the Most vikings things ever to
- 1:11:37Speaker 1: do this Offseason to trade AWAY jj McCarthy For Joe,
- 1:11:41Speaker 1: burrow only For Joe burrow to sit out the whole,
- 1:11:44Speaker 1: season have like some weird neck thing and be out
- 1:11:48Speaker 1: for no to have him do What Sam bradford did
- 1:11:52Speaker 1: in his second years Of. Viking to Have Joe burrow
- 1:11:54Speaker 1: come out first game of the season throw for like
- 1:11:56Speaker 1: six hundred yards and seven touchdowns and he's not a
- 1:12:00Speaker 1: weird neck. Thing and then FOR jj, McCarthy who theoretically
- 1:12:05Speaker 1: would be A, bengal to come out and look like
- 1:12:08Speaker 1: the next Freaking Joe, burrow just a healthy version like
- 1:12:12Speaker 1: that would be the Most vikings thing ever but that
- 1:12:16Speaker 1: was kind of our theme for the off season into this,
- 1:12:18Speaker 1: season is what was the most vikings thing? Ever so
- 1:12:21Speaker 1: that would be. IT i feel like this season has
- 1:12:23Speaker 1: been the most vikings thing, Ever like all this, hype all,
- 1:12:26Speaker 1: That like we rebuilt the, trenches the offensive, line the defensive.
- 1:12:30Speaker 1: Line that's WHAT i was pounding the table for all off, season, like,
- 1:12:33Speaker 1: yeah we did. It we got this red shirt rookie.
- 1:12:36Speaker 1: Quarterback he's had a year to sit in the league
- 1:12:38Speaker 1: but not. Play he's he's well, studied well, read he
- 1:12:42Speaker 1: knows what he's. Doing we Got Aaron jones And Jordan.
- 1:12:45Speaker 1: Mason you got this one two punch at running. Back
- 1:12:47Speaker 1: you've got the league's best wide receiver And Justin. Jefferson
- 1:12:49Speaker 1: you've got a really good tight end and Tj. Hodginson
- 1:12:51Speaker 1: you've got arguably the league's best defense that's now even
- 1:12:54Speaker 1: more formidable with your interior defensive line acquisitions that they
- 1:13:00Speaker 1: made With Jonathan allen And Javon. Hargrave all of these
- 1:13:05Speaker 1: things and, more and special teams, too like Got Will,
- 1:13:08Speaker 1: record And Ryan right And Andrew. DePaolo we've already talked
- 1:13:11Speaker 1: about how they should Be Pro Pro, Bowlers like, goodness
- 1:13:14Speaker 1: gracious This This vikings team should easily make the, playoffs
- 1:13:18Speaker 1: should he easily win the, division should he easily you,
- 1:13:20Speaker 1: know win a game or two in the in the
- 1:13:23Speaker 1: in the, playoffs and now here we are looking on
- 1:13:26Speaker 1: the outside and no, playoffs No Pro, bowlers none of. That,
- 1:13:30Speaker 1: yeah that's the Most vikings thing, ever you know what
- 1:13:33Speaker 1: kind of.
- 1:13:33Speaker 2: It it's similar to what we've been talking, about but
- 1:13:35Speaker 2: a little bit, different you know what kind of annoys.
- 1:13:38Speaker 2: Me Pro Football talk is run By Mike, florio who's
- 1:13:43Speaker 2: like apparently A vikings, fan but he also like craps
- 1:13:47Speaker 2: on The vikings more often than not.
- 1:13:50Speaker 1: Before the.
- 1:13:50Speaker 2: Season, also don't go To Pro football dot dot. Com
- 1:13:53Speaker 2: they're actually, terrible like they're the. Worst go To Vikings
- 1:13:56Speaker 2: territory dot. Com but before the season, Started Mike, florio
- 1:14:01Speaker 2: who's on Like Sunday night In America football or, whatever
- 1:14:05Speaker 2: he His vikings prediction was that they would be you,
- 1:14:10Speaker 2: know five win, team six win. Team and his only
- 1:14:14Speaker 2: basis on that was because for the last decade or,
- 1:14:17Speaker 2: so The vikings have had a really good, season really bad,
- 1:14:22Speaker 2: season really good, season really bad, season really good. Season
- 1:14:25Speaker 2: it's just been back and. Forth every year has been
- 1:14:28Speaker 2: good than, bad then good than. Bad and that Was
- 1:14:30Speaker 2: florio's only reason of saying they'll be bad this year
- 1:14:34Speaker 2: because they were good last. Year and it's annoying that
- 1:14:37Speaker 2: he ended up being kind of right BECAUSE i hate.
- 1:14:40Speaker 1: That will it be annoying next year? Though if he's
- 1:14:42Speaker 1: right again and they have a good.
- 1:14:43Speaker 2: Season, Oh i'll be super. Happy But i'll also be
- 1:14:45Speaker 2: annoyed with him because he's not actually. Knowledgeable he's just saying.
- 1:14:49Speaker 2: That because you know good, bad good, bad good. Bad snip,
- 1:14:52Speaker 2: snap snip, snap you can notice.
- 1:14:53Speaker 1: Patterns you learned that in the kindergarten. PRESCHOOL i was
- 1:14:57Speaker 1: a preschool. Teacher she'd tell you.
- 1:14:58Speaker 2: Patters but, Yeah i'm excited that next season will be
- 1:15:03Speaker 2: a good. Year i'm predicting that right. Now but, yeah,
- 1:15:06Speaker 2: well it'll be fun to play out all the Most
- 1:15:08Speaker 2: vikings things scenarios throughout the off.
- 1:15:11Speaker 1: Season let's talk real briefly about The vikings playing The.
- 1:15:17Speaker 2: LIONS, yep SO i need to update the outline. Here
- 1:15:21Speaker 2: detroit opened up as five and a half point favorites and,
- 1:15:24Speaker 2: now as of you know a few minutes, ago WHEN
- 1:15:27Speaker 2: jj McCarthy was announced he's.
- 1:15:28Speaker 1: Gonna not be.
- 1:15:29Speaker 2: Playing they are seven point, favorites AND i don't know
- 1:15:33Speaker 2: the actual overunder right, now but it did open up
- 1:15:36Speaker 2: as for forty four point five.
- 1:15:38Speaker 1: Points, goodness you are right over.
- 1:15:41Speaker 2: There, Yep i'm, burpin but, YEAH i, Uh detroit is
- 1:15:46Speaker 2: favored by a touchdown and the over runner is probably
- 1:15:49Speaker 2: something like forty six points by now forty three and a, half,
- 1:15:52Speaker 2: Oh detroit seven and a half ON, Espn, okay seven
- 1:15:56Speaker 2: and a half, favorites tickets as low as seventy six.
- 1:16:00Speaker 2: Dollars you want to go On? Christmas you think you
- 1:16:02Speaker 2: can get away from your? Family IF i, WENT i
- 1:16:05Speaker 2: wouldn't have a. Family that's just how it.
- 1:16:09Speaker 1: Is.
- 1:16:11Speaker 2: Evan what are your keys to The vikings beating The
- 1:16:14Speaker 2: lions On Christmas?
- 1:16:15Speaker 1: Day it's this. Defense the defense has been the only
- 1:16:18Speaker 1: reason The vikings are as good as they. Are if
- 1:16:20Speaker 1: The vikings defense were any worse than they, Are we're
- 1:16:25Speaker 1: looking at three, wins four, wins five, wins not how
- 1:16:30Speaker 1: many wins seven and eight right? Now seven are eight and.
- 1:16:34Speaker 2: Seven i'm hoping after the end of this game The
- 1:16:38Speaker 2: vikings And lions have the same.
- 1:16:39Speaker 1: Record that would be. Great so, yeah, defense it's it's
- 1:16:45Speaker 1: gonna come down to. Defense this offense is gonna be.
- 1:16:47Speaker 1: Weird you're gonna Have Max brozman under. Center you're gonna
- 1:16:50Speaker 1: have your backup. Center Probably jurgins starting at. Center IF
- 1:16:55Speaker 1: i had to, guess Possibly. Brandell But brandell's filling the
- 1:16:59Speaker 1: role For Donovan jackson right? Now who's out? Right, NO
- 1:17:03Speaker 1: i Think Jackson's jackson. IN i GUESS i don't pay
- 1:17:06Speaker 1: attention too much to the offensive. Line the offensive line
- 1:17:09Speaker 1: is a wild card right. Now Is brandell filling in For?
- 1:17:14Speaker 2: Darisa, WELL i think that's still just in school too.
- 1:17:16Speaker 1: School, Okay, see.
- 1:17:18Speaker 2: SO i Think, brandell unless there's an information out, THERE
- 1:17:21Speaker 2: i think he will be at center because that's where
- 1:17:23Speaker 2: he has.
- 1:17:24Speaker 1: Been When jurgens came in and played.
- 1:17:27Speaker 2: Back, YONDER i wonder, why because he definitely that's what
- 1:17:29Speaker 2: you're thinking because we're watching. Together jurgens definitely came, In
- 1:17:33Speaker 2: kelly came.
- 1:17:34Speaker 1: OUT i don't. Know it's weird. Anyways so all of
- 1:17:40Speaker 1: that to, SAY i think the offense is just gonna be.
- 1:17:41Speaker 1: Weird it's gonna be. Weird both running backs are, hurt
- 1:17:46Speaker 1: And Justin jefferson's trying to get to a thousand. YARDS
- 1:17:50Speaker 1: i could See KOs try to throw him a bone
- 1:17:54Speaker 1: and try, to you, know get him some. RECEPTIONS i
- 1:17:56Speaker 1: could see The lions defense capitalizing on. THAT i could
- 1:18:00Speaker 1: some pick sixes or something like that happening because they're
- 1:18:03Speaker 1: trying to feed the ball To Justin jefferson and it's
- 1:18:07Speaker 1: going to be coming From Max, brosmer who really hasn't
- 1:18:10Speaker 1: proven a whole. Lot you've got this mangled offensive, line
- 1:18:14Speaker 1: depleted running. Game it's just gonna be. Weird defense is
- 1:18:19Speaker 1: where it's going to be. At the defense has to
- 1:18:22Speaker 1: step up and play.
- 1:18:23Speaker 2: Well, yeah SO i agree with. You but on top of,
- 1:18:26Speaker 2: that my key is it was just the quarterback, position
- 1:18:30Speaker 2: but now it's how Is brosmer uh going to continue
- 1:18:35Speaker 2: playing LIKE jj McCarthy. Played we saw in The giants
- 1:18:39Speaker 2: game When brozemer came. In it was some, passing but
- 1:18:42Speaker 2: a lot Of Aaron Jones. Sr coming in and taking
- 1:18:46Speaker 2: the game on his shoulders and just doing the vikings,
- 1:18:49Speaker 2: offense doing just enough in tain him with the defense
- 1:18:52Speaker 2: going above and. Beyond so uh, Yeah i'm gonna be
- 1:18:55Speaker 2: paying a lot of attention To brosmer and how he's,
- 1:18:57Speaker 2: playing and hopefully they can edge it out for a.
- 1:19:01Speaker 2: Victory you got a prediction score. Prediction what's?
- 1:19:05Speaker 1: Yours ev thirty? One, nothing that's It vikings.
- 1:19:09Speaker 2: Win that's three straight weeks now that you predicted thirty,
- 1:19:12Speaker 2: one And i've been right one of those three.
- 1:19:14Speaker 1: Times right there you, go just kidding zero of.
- 1:19:17Speaker 2: This, well, yeah but the first time you predicted it
- 1:19:20Speaker 2: ended up being what thirty four to? SOMETHING i don't.
- 1:19:24Speaker 2: Know it wasn't too far? Off mine IS i think
- 1:19:27Speaker 2: The lions are going to win this JUST i think
- 1:19:29Speaker 2: The vikings have too many, injuries too much going on
- 1:19:33Speaker 2: this year has been not for The vikings enough that
- 1:19:38Speaker 2: The lions are going to win it twenty eight to
- 1:19:39Speaker 2: ten or something like. That that's interesting because we flip
- 1:19:43Speaker 2: flapped preseason. Predictions you predicted a win AND i predicted
- 1:19:48Speaker 2: a loss.
- 1:19:48Speaker 1: Preseason so for The.
- 1:19:49Speaker 2: Purple punishments next, episode if The vikings, Win evan will
- 1:19:54Speaker 2: be spinning the. Wheel if The vikings, LOSE i will
- 1:19:57Speaker 2: be spinning the. Wheel so for the first time in a, While,
- 1:20:00Speaker 2: yeah first time in a, while guaranteed. WHEELSPIN i think
- 1:20:02Speaker 2: did we spin against The? Seahawks after The seahawks, Game
- 1:20:06Speaker 2: i'm trying to think the last time we spun what
- 1:20:08Speaker 2: the punishment?
- 1:20:09Speaker 1: Was, YEAH i don't remember the. Jerseys it might be
- 1:20:12Speaker 1: the jerseys that sounds we both had to wear. JERSEYS
- 1:20:15Speaker 1: i don't.
- 1:20:15Speaker 2: Know we could figure that, out, commenters let us know
- 1:20:17Speaker 2: and we'll look it.
- 1:20:18Speaker 1: Up, obviously we keep really meticulous records of our own podcast.
- 1:20:22Speaker 2: Exactly, well we did have a stack, guy but he
- 1:20:25Speaker 2: hasn't been around for a. While, yeah As, yeah let
- 1:20:27Speaker 2: us know if you're still out.
- 1:20:28Speaker 1: There, Dennis, Yeah, Dennis, dennis he was the, man all. Right,
- 1:20:33Speaker 1: well full thoughts on the. Beer we gave our full
- 1:20:36Speaker 1: thoughts on the current state of the. Vikings what do
- 1:20:39Speaker 1: you think of This Big grove redheaded Stranger american Red Ipa.
- 1:20:44Speaker 2: So one of my Favorite Big robe. Beers they're all really, good,
- 1:20:48Speaker 2: GENUINELY i genuinely like most Of Big groves, beers but
- 1:20:51Speaker 2: one of my favorites is their Arms. Race it's like
- 1:20:54Speaker 2: a hoppy ambery. Beer it was the inspiration of our Skull,
- 1:20:59Speaker 2: hop the skull hot beer That i've been showcasing right.
- 1:21:02Speaker 2: Now this is in kind of the same, neighborhood you,
- 1:21:09Speaker 2: know the happiness that it's a Red. Ipa Maybe i'm
- 1:21:11Speaker 2: a Red ipa. GUY i THINK i like this more
- 1:21:15Speaker 2: than the Arms Race i'm actually sad that this is
- 1:21:18Speaker 2: just a limited run. Beer this is super. Good it's
- 1:21:21Speaker 2: got like enough of the happiness to be kind of,
- 1:21:23Speaker 2: citrusy kind of, tangy but enough of the ambery ness
- 1:21:27Speaker 2: to be kind of more down, mellow and it just.
- 1:21:33Speaker 2: Works all of those flavors kind of work. Together it
- 1:21:36Speaker 2: doesn't taste Like Doctor, pepper But Doctor pepper says it's
- 1:21:39Speaker 2: like twenty three flavors and it. Works this is a
- 1:21:43Speaker 2: bunch of flavors in a, beer and it works really.
- 1:21:45Speaker 2: WELL i think it'd be good On july. FOURTH i
- 1:21:49Speaker 2: think it'd be good On Christmas.
- 1:21:50Speaker 1: Day this is just a really good.
- 1:21:53Speaker 2: Beer and, Again i'm gonna have to on my way
- 1:21:56Speaker 2: home stop at our favorite highve and just buy them
- 1:21:59Speaker 2: out everything they have here because it's limited.
- 1:22:02Speaker 1: RUN i don't want this to go. Away i'm gonna
- 1:22:03Speaker 1: have to beat you over there BECAUSE i might have
- 1:22:05Speaker 1: to get some. Too. Well it's also impressive because you're
- 1:22:08Speaker 1: not feeling well and it sounds like you're a little,
- 1:22:10Speaker 1: Congested so like to taste this and really fully experience
- 1:22:14Speaker 1: it with maybe some. Congestion, yeah that's, great that's good.
- 1:22:17Speaker 1: News and you know what this one's making me feel
- 1:22:18Speaker 1: a little bit. Better oh, good go home and take
- 1:22:21Speaker 1: a little. Nap it's it's. MIDDAYS i got a lot
- 1:22:24Speaker 1: Of christmas presents to.
- 1:22:25Speaker 2: WRAP i might be ruined some tea for the rest
- 1:22:29Speaker 2: of the.
- 1:22:29Speaker 1: Day that's. Fair, WELL i thought this beer was great as.
- 1:22:33Speaker 1: Well this is one THAT i would seek, out like
- 1:22:36Speaker 1: a lot of the beers we've, Had i'll be, honest
- 1:22:39Speaker 1: like good. Beer yeah, Great But i'm not, gonna, LIKE
- 1:22:42Speaker 1: i gotta go back to the store and get that.
- 1:22:44Speaker 1: One like you just, said this is one that's, like,
- 1:22:46Speaker 1: No i'll race you, there like not after a bunch of.
- 1:22:51Speaker 1: Them i'll drive responsibly and. Safely but, No i'm Gonna
- 1:22:55Speaker 1: i'm gonna find this one.
- 1:22:56Speaker 2: Too, Yeah i'd be interested to know like a process
- 1:23:00Speaker 2: and the ingredients and the. Recipe how different it is
- 1:23:05Speaker 2: Than Arms race From Big. Grove they have to be.
- 1:23:09Speaker 2: Different it's not like they just put a different sticker
- 1:23:12Speaker 2: on An Arms race. Can but LIKE i, said they're
- 1:23:15Speaker 2: in the same, neighborhood so, like why why does it
- 1:23:19Speaker 2: taste a little bit different for being in the same
- 1:23:21Speaker 2: Neighborhood and what do they do? DIFFERENTLY i really like
- 1:23:23Speaker 2: It Big. Grove you did a great. Job if you
- 1:23:25Speaker 2: wanted to just send us like a keg or two
- 1:23:28Speaker 2: or ten for the skull, hop we we.
- 1:23:31Speaker 1: Would absolutely take. It we find a spot for. IT
- 1:23:34Speaker 1: i don't know we do a ten. Keg, oh we'd
- 1:23:36Speaker 1: figure it.
- 1:23:37Speaker 2: Out skull hop party right before we go up to
- 1:23:42Speaker 2: The packer. Game but, yeah this is one of the
- 1:23:46Speaker 2: better ones we've had in a long. Time and like you,
- 1:23:49Speaker 2: SAID i haven't hated any of the beers we've had
- 1:23:52Speaker 2: on this. Podcast That pickle one was, different but you,
- 1:23:56Speaker 2: KNOW i respect the, GAME i respect The hustle for
- 1:23:59Speaker 2: making a pick beer that was A barntown one tickle
- 1:24:02Speaker 2: My pickle or whatever it was. Called but, yeah this,
- 1:24:06Speaker 2: one this is up. There this is towards the top
- 1:24:09Speaker 2: of what we've, tried not just From Big. Row but
- 1:24:13Speaker 2: we should all of.
- 1:24:14Speaker 1: Them we should in the off. Season we should do
- 1:24:16Speaker 1: a Top beers. Episode, yeah and maybe like see if
- 1:24:19Speaker 1: we can get single cans of our top, ones.
- 1:24:23Speaker 2: That'd be you know what if we do that on
- 1:24:26Speaker 2: air production. Meeting we should Have front of the Show
- 1:24:28Speaker 2: forest on as, well maybe not as like a participant
- 1:24:31Speaker 2: in what he thinks the top one, is maybe like
- 1:24:33Speaker 2: as a judge or SOMETHING i don't, know because he's,
- 1:24:36Speaker 2: been you, know whenever we've done interesting things with, beer
- 1:24:39Speaker 2: he's been a part of it as.
- 1:24:40Speaker 1: Well SO i have another idea here we. GOES i
- 1:24:42Speaker 1: was thinking about this today because we're we've already talked
- 1:24:46Speaker 1: about this and we're going we're. Digressing it's, fine it's our.
- 1:24:49Speaker 1: Podcast we can talk about it whatever we. WANT i
- 1:24:53Speaker 1: thought about since it was the middle of the day
- 1:24:55Speaker 1: and we usually don't do this we usually record at,
- 1:24:57Speaker 1: night like going to the store and just each of
- 1:25:01Speaker 1: us buying somewhere between three and five beers that we've
- 1:25:05Speaker 1: had on the, show that we could do like that
- 1:25:07Speaker 1: blind taste test type of thing With maybe we could
- 1:25:11Speaker 1: Involve forrest in that and we could give him our
- 1:25:13Speaker 1: beer list and then tell him, like, hey we'll pay for,
- 1:25:17Speaker 1: it you bring the, beer and you'll know which ones
- 1:25:21Speaker 1: are which and we have to. Guess you.
- 1:25:24Speaker 2: KNOW i have heard from a listener that we need
- 1:25:27Speaker 2: to maybe not every, week but we need to go
- 1:25:29Speaker 2: back to our mystery beer.
- 1:25:31Speaker 1: Segment that was a good one. Too. YEAH i like.
- 1:25:33Speaker 2: That, Yeah so that kind of reminds me of The
- 1:25:34Speaker 2: Mystery beer segment a little. Bit SO i like that's a.
- 1:25:37Speaker 2: Fantastic sounds like we need to have another business.
- 1:25:39Speaker 1: Meeting oh we haven't had one for a while to
- 1:25:41Speaker 1: figure some of these things.
- 1:25:42Speaker 2: Out all, Right so we both liked this, Beer we
- 1:25:46Speaker 2: both think, well we both have differing opinions on what
- 1:25:51Speaker 2: The Spikings lions game will end up as. Evan if
- 1:25:55Speaker 2: people have their own opinions and want to let us
- 1:25:58Speaker 2: know what they think this game will end up, as
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- 1:27:11Speaker 2: evan this was a really good episode and really good.
- 1:27:14Speaker 1: MIRROR i had a lot of FUN i did. Too. Yeah,
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- 1:27:20Speaker 2: Go hm.
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