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- 0:00Music.
- 0:08All right, so welcome to The Deep Dive. Yeah. You know, where we like to really
- 0:11get into the nitty-gritty of all sorts of fascinating companies and business trends.
- 0:15And today we are diving deep into Keonhue Corporation Limited.
- 0:20They might be familiar to some of you out there for their ornamental fish.
- 0:24Yeah, exactly. But they're involved in a lot more than just that. Yeah, they really are.
- 0:28Aquaculture, pet accessories, even plastics. Plastics. Yeah.
- 0:33It's pretty impressive. And we've got their interim financial report ready to
- 0:36go for you. the second half of 2024, and the full year report ending December 31st, 2024.
- 0:42And it is a comeback story. So if you remember last year, they posted a pretty
- 0:46significant loss. Yeah.
- 0:47$9.1 million to be exact. Right. Not great.
- 0:51Not great. But this year they are back in the black.
- 0:54Yeah. They made a profit. So we're going to really break down what drove this
- 0:58turnaround, what were the factors behind their wins and losses in each segment,
- 1:03and then of course, What does their future look like? What might it hold?
- 1:06It's interesting because their revenue only grew by 1.6% in FY 2024 to reach $71.4 million.
- 1:15So not a huge jump, not a huge jump, but enough to get them back into profitability.
- 1:20That's right. And that's sometimes all it takes.
- 1:22Yeah, especially after a year like they had, you know, the previous year. Yeah.
- 1:26So let's kind of break this down by segment, see what's really going on here.
- 1:29Sounds good. Starting with their core business, the fish segment. Yeah.
- 1:32So in the fish segment, revenue actually jumped up by a much healthier 6.1 percent in FY 2024.
- 1:39OK. Their aquaculture business is doing really well, particularly the exports
- 1:44of marble goby from their Hainan farm.
- 1:47We're going to have to get into that marble goby a little bit later.
- 1:49I'm very curious about that.
- 1:51Even though things are going well, there are always little wrinkles.
- 1:54OK, like what? Well, despite the revenue growth, profit before tax actually
- 1:58dipped a little, and that's likely due to decreased revenue from handling fees for transcriptments.
- 2:05So it's just a reminder that even when a segment is doing well overall.
- 2:10You know, we have to look at all the different factors, all those little nuances.
- 2:13Absolutely. And speaking of nuances, they had some pretty serious headwinds
- 2:18in the first half of 2024.
- 2:20Right. I mean, there were those geopolitical issues we were talking about before
- 2:23we started recording and the trade tensions.
- 2:25Right. And those did have an initial impact on the fish segment.
- 2:28And what's impressive is how they managed to recover so strongly in the second half of the year.
- 2:33That kind of resilience, I think, is going to be key for any business that wants
- 2:36to thrive in today's global landscape.
- 2:38Absolutely. All right. Let's move on to the accessory segment.
- 2:40Okay. Now, this one's a little bit of a head scratcher for me because they saw
- 2:43a 1.8 percent revenue decline in FY 2024.
- 2:48Yes. And, you know, that's understandable given the weakening global purchasing
- 2:52sentiment we've been seeing and just the broader economic uncertainty that's
- 2:56kind of hanging over everything right now.
- 2:58But here's where things get really interesting, despite that revenue dip.
- 3:02Their profit in this segment skyrocketed by 121%. Wait, how is that even possible?
- 3:08Less revenue, way more profit? It really is a great example of how effective
- 3:13their strategic maneuvering has been.
- 3:15And a few things are contributing to that impressive profit jump.
- 3:19First, they received a one-time compensation income from land expropriation in China.
- 3:25Okay, so that definitely helped. A little windfall. Yeah, but they also made
- 3:29some really smart internal changes. They streamlined their inventory management,
- 3:33which means less money tied up in products that aren't selling. Makes sense.
- 3:38And they've been really focusing on developing and selling higher margin products,
- 3:41their own in-house proprietary products.
- 3:44So they're making more money on each product they sell. Exactly.
- 3:47They're holding less inventory. It's like a recipe for profit growth,
- 3:50even if the sales are down a little bit. Exactly.
- 3:52What about the plastic segment? What do you think is going on over there?
- 3:55Well, I know that the revenue in the plastic segment was relatively flat.
- 3:58Which isn't necessarily a bad thing in a shaky economy like we've got right
- 4:02now, but I did see that their profitability improved. So I'm curious about that as well.
- 4:07Right. So profitability improved thanks to better margins and what we call a
- 4:12more favorable sales mix.
- 4:14Okay. So it sounds like they're really laser focused on maximizing that profitability
- 4:18across all their segments.
- 4:20They are. And it's not just reacting to current market conditions.
- 4:23They're really trying to shape their future. You know, they've announced plans
- 4:27to expand their plastic segment into Malaysia, and they're exploring that whole
- 4:31exciting world of biodegradable plastics.
- 4:35Really? Yeah. That's really smart. They're anticipating these future trends,
- 4:38and they're positioning themselves to capitalize on them, and that's what it's
- 4:42all about. They're not content with just surviving.
- 4:45They're aiming for that sustainable growth.
- 4:47Exactly. And before we move on too far, let's take a quick look at their overall financial health.
- 4:53We'll call it a checkup on the balance sheet. Okay, I like it.
- 4:55Total assets decreased a bit, mainly due to lower inventory,
- 4:59which we already talked about as a good thing, and also lower cash on hand.
- 5:03Their liabilities also decreased largely due to loan repayments.
- 5:06So less debt, more money.
- 5:08That's always a good thing. A good sign, yeah. Are there any potential warning
- 5:12signs that we should be aware of, though?
- 5:15Well, there's one thing that kind of caught my eye, and that's the slight increase
- 5:19in their trade receivable days.
- 5:22OK, so that basically means it's taking them a little longer to collect money
- 5:25from their customers. Exactly. And there are a couple of reasons why that might be happening.
- 5:29One, it could be that they're offering more generous payment terms.
- 5:33Sure. To attract new business in this tough market. Yeah. You know,
- 5:37or it could mean that customers are just taking longer to pay their bills.
- 5:41Right. Which could point to potential cash flow issues down the line. Exactly.
- 5:45So it's not a red flag necessarily. But it's something to keep an eye on. Yeah, absolutely.
- 5:50So cash flow, the lifeblood of a business. How's their lifeblood looking?
- 5:55It seems to be flowing pretty well, actually. OK.
- 5:58Their operating cash flow improved in FY 2024, driven by those higher profits
- 6:02and the leaner inventory that we were talking about earlier.
- 6:05So they're making money and they're managing it efficiently.
- 6:09Yeah. That's a great sign. So where's all that cash going? Are they reinvesting
- 6:13it back into the business?
- 6:14Are they paying down that debt or are they rewarding their shareholders?
- 6:20A little bit of all of the above. What's going on? All of the above, I think it's safe to say.
- 6:24So a portion of it has been directed towards capital expenditures,
- 6:27which includes the acquisition of a new building. So that shows their commitment to future growth.
- 6:32They've also been diligently chipping away at their loans and lease liabilities,
- 6:36which, as you said, is always a good sign.
- 6:38And then there are those dividend payments. The dividends got to keep investors
- 6:42happy. Got to keep them happy. It's always a good thing.
- 6:45Indeed. And the directors have proposed a final dividend of $0.004 per share.
- 6:51It's a small increase from last year. Sure.
- 6:53But considering they were in the red last year, it's a really clear signal of
- 6:58confidence in their financial performance and their future prospects.
- 7:02Absolutely. It definitely sends the message that they believe in their ability
- 7:06to continue this positive momentum. So let's talk about the future. Thank you.
- 7:10What's the outlook for Qian Hu in FY 2025?
- 7:14Are they expecting to stay on this upward trajectory?
- 7:18Well, their outlook statement definitely acknowledges that the global economic
- 7:22environment is still challenging.
- 7:23Right. But what's interesting is how they're approaching these challenges.
- 7:27Okay. Instead of just sort of hunkering down and waiting for the storm to pass,
- 7:30they're forging ahead with these ambitious plans for expansion.
- 7:34They want to further grow their aquaculture and pet accessories segments,
- 7:38and they're really committed to investing in research and development, particularly in AI.
- 7:44That's really interesting. They're not just adapting to this current environment.
- 7:46They're trying to shape the future. Exactly.
- 7:49But are they maybe being overly optimistic? I mean, there's a lot of uncertainty
- 7:52out there. It's a great question.
- 7:54What's clear is that Tianhu is taking this multi-pronged approach.
- 7:59You know, they're sticking to their core strengths in ornamental fish and aquaculture,
- 8:03while also diversifying into these other promising areas like pet accessories
- 8:08and biodegradable plastics.
- 8:10And keeping a close eye on their financials, it sounds like,
- 8:13making sure that balance sheet is strong and that cash flow is healthy,
- 8:16all while investing in innovation.
- 8:18Exactly. It's a delicate balancing
- 8:20act. Yeah. But one that they seem to be managing pretty well so far.
- 8:23I think it's worth highlighting Qian Hu's commitment to innovation.
- 8:27I mean, they're not just dipping their toes in the water here.
- 8:30Yeah, they're really going all in.
- 8:31You know, we touched on it briefly, but their one Tianhu digital platform,
- 8:37it's more than just a catchy name.
- 8:40Right. It's a real game changer. It's a game changer.
- 8:42And rolling that out across all their subsidiaries in FY 2024.
- 8:47I mean, that was a brilliant move.
- 8:48Getting everyone on the same system, streamlining those processes.
- 8:53Automating where possible.
- 8:54Yeah. That's how you boost efficiency and ultimately profitability.
- 8:57Yeah, it's like they took a page right out of the Silicon Valley playbook.
- 9:01And applied it to fish and plastics. That's a great way to put it.
- 9:05And they're not stopping their, I mean, we talked about their exploration of AI.
- 9:08I'm still trying to wrap my head around that AI for fish breeding,
- 9:13it sounds like something out of a sci-fi movie.
- 9:14It does sound futuristic, right? But think about the possibilities.
- 9:18Algorithms analyzing massive data sets about fish genetics, water conditions.
- 9:24Growth rates, feeding schedules, you name it.
- 9:27So they could potentially optimize every aspect of the breeding process.
- 9:31Exactly. Instead of relying solely on those traditional breeding methods,
- 9:34they can use AI to identify the ideal breeding pairs, optimize feeding schedules
- 9:40to really maximize growth, maybe even predict disease outbreaks before they happen.
- 9:46Wow. So they could be one step ahead of any potential problems.
- 9:49Exactly. It's like preventive venison for fish.
- 9:51That's amazing. But is that really realistic?
- 9:55Is that something that's actually happening or is this more of a long term vision?
- 9:58It's definitely more of a long term bet right now. AI for fish breeding is still
- 10:02in those early stages, but it just goes to show how Key and Hu is thinking ahead.
- 10:06You know, they're always looking for those ways to innovate,
- 10:09to gain that competitive edge. It's smart to kind of keep an eye on the horizon. Always.
- 10:13What's coming next. All right. So let's shift gears a little bit and focus on
- 10:16some of their more immediate plans for FY 2025.
- 10:19Their outlook statement clearly
- 10:20emphasizes expansion. Yes. In both aquaculture and pet accessories.
- 10:25Which makes perfect sense given the global trends. I mean, the demand for high quality seafood.
- 10:30It's only going up. Right. And the pet industry, I mean, it's booming.
- 10:34Oh, yeah. People are spending a fortune on their pets these days.
- 10:37They are. And Keenan Hu is in a great position to capitalize on all of that.
- 10:41Yeah. Their new aquaculture farm in Malaysia is already up and running.
- 10:45It is. Focusing on that marble goby.
- 10:47Yes, the marble goby. I'm telling you, we need to do a whole deep dive on this
- 10:50fish. I think we do. I think the marble goby deserves its own episode.
- 10:54They really seem to have a winning formula with this fish.
- 10:58What is it about the Marble Gobi that makes it so special? Well,
- 11:02from a business perspective, it's a great choice.
- 11:04I mean, it's a delicious fish, very versatile, high demand in both Singapore and Malaysia.
- 11:10So there's a market for it. There's a huge market. And it thrives in these intensive
- 11:15farming systems that Keenan Hu has really mastered.
- 11:18So they're meeting that market demand with a product that they can produce efficiently and profitably.
- 11:23Exactly. And that's how you build a sustainable business. Absolutely.
- 11:27What about the pet accessories side of things? Any interesting developments
- 11:29there? Well, this is where their collaboration with N&E Innovations comes into play.
- 11:34They're teaming up to launch a new line of pet products using this really innovative
- 11:41technology called AMR. AMR.
- 11:44I'm not familiar with that. What is that? It stands for Agricultural Material
- 11:47Residue. Okay. And it's basically taking fruit waste, things like peels and seeds.
- 11:52Okay. And transforming it into this biodegradable material.
- 11:55So they're making pet products out of fruit waste. They are. That's amazing.
- 12:00It's a great example of that circular economy we're always hearing about,
- 12:03you know, taking something that would normally be discarded and turning it into something valuable.
- 12:08I love it. And what kind of pet products are we talking about here?
- 12:10Well, they're starting with cat litter wet wipes, even anti-odor sprays.
- 12:15So they're really tapping into that eco-conscious consumer market.
- 12:19They are. And they're doing their part for sustainability at the same time. It's a win-win.
- 12:23It really is. And it just showcases their forward-thinking approach.
- 12:27You know, they're not chasing those short-term profits.
- 12:30They're building a sustainable business. And I think that's something investors
- 12:33should pay attention to. They should, for sure.
- 12:36All right. So it sounds like they've got their core businesses humming along.
- 12:40They're expanding strategically.
- 12:42They're investing in innovation.
- 12:44But, you know, they're not operating in a vacuum. We can't forget about those
- 12:49global challenges that we were talking about.
- 12:51Right. Those challenges are still out there. So those economic uncertainties,
- 12:54the geopolitical tensions, the U.S.-China trade war...
- 12:58They're still looming large. They are. So the big question is,
- 13:02can Qian Hu maintain this momentum in the face of all of that?
- 13:06Can they weather the storm, so to speak? That's the million-dollar question, isn't it?
- 13:10It is. I mean, we've seen how resilient they are. We've seen their ability to
- 13:13adapt. They've shown that they can make tough decisions. They can streamline
- 13:16their operations. They can embrace innovation.
- 13:19But the next chapter of their story hasn't been written yet.
- 13:23Exactly. OK, so we've talked about Key and Hugh's impressive turnaround in FY 2024.
- 13:28You know, there's smart strategies and those ambitious plans for FY 2025.
- 13:33Right. But we can't forget about those global headwinds, you know,
- 13:37those challenges that are still out there. Exactly. And those are some pretty
- 13:40significant headwinds.
- 13:42So what does the economic forecast tell us? What kind of a storm are they potentially sailing into?
- 13:48Well, the outlook's a bit mixed. You know, the U.S. Federal Reserve is signaling
- 13:52caution on interest rate cuts in 2025.
- 13:55They're concerned about those persistent inflation risks that we keep hearing about.
- 14:00Yeah, inflation. It's the word on everyone's mind these days.
- 14:03It is. And then there's that elephant in the room, the U.S.-China trade war. Right.
- 14:07It's been simmering for years, and it doesn't look like it's going away anytime
- 14:10soon. No. No signs of cooling down. And that creates uncertainty in the global economy.
- 14:14Yeah, especially for a company like Keenhu that has so much business tied to China.
- 14:19Exactly. And let's not forget about Europe. They're dealing with their own set
- 14:22of economic and political challenges over there. It's a complicated world out there.
- 14:27So how can Keen Hue prepare for a potential economic storm?
- 14:31What's their strategy for navigating these, you know, choppy waters?
- 14:35Well, they seem to be taking a multifaceted approach. Okay.
- 14:38First, they're sticking to their core strengths, you know, ornamental fish and aquaculture.
- 14:43Makes sense. They've built a solid reputation for quality and reliability in
- 14:47those sectors, and that gives them a really strong foundation.
- 14:50Right. It's like they're saying, we know fish. Exactly. We do fish well.
- 14:54We do it well. And second, they're not putting all their eggs in one basket.
- 14:58Right. Diversification. Diversification, exactly, by branching out into pet
- 15:02accessories and exploring those biodegradable plastics.
- 15:05Yeah. They're creating multiple avenues for growth and reducing their reliance
- 15:09on any single market. it.
- 15:12And third, they're not just sitting back and relaxing. They're constantly innovating. That's right.
- 15:17You know, that commitment to innovation from their digital platform to exploring
- 15:21AI, it shows that they have that forward thinking mentality,
- 15:24which is essential for long term success.
- 15:27But even with the best strategies in place, there are always risks.
- 15:31Of course. I mean, global economics are volatile. Consumer confidence can change.
- 15:35Overnight supply chains can be disrupted. There's no way to eliminate all risk.
- 15:39So where does this leave Key on Who?
- 15:41Can they really pull off another strong performance in FY 2025,
- 15:46given all these potential challenges?
- 15:48That's the question we're all asking, isn't it? It is. They've proven that they
- 15:52can adapt. They can make tough decisions. They can bounce back from setbacks.
- 15:55I mean, their turnaround in FY 2024 was really impressive. It was.
- 15:59They've embraced innovation. They've positioned themselves strategically.
- 16:03But the global landscape is complex. It is. It's like predicting the weather. Yeah.
- 16:07You can analyze the patterns and make educated guesses, but they're always surprises.
- 16:12Always surprises. Well said. Kino Shoes, it's a fascinating case study,
- 16:15I think, in business resilience and adaptability.
- 16:18As we've seen Xi'an Hu as a company in motion, and their story is definitely
- 16:22far from over, it'll be really fascinating to see how they handle all the challenges
- 16:26and opportunities that lie ahead. So until next time, keep exploring,
- 16:30keep learning and keep diving deep with us here on The Deep Dive.
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