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Joni Table Talk Podcast (Video) - The Altar of Pergamon | Part 1 | Jonathan Cahn · The Light

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  RACHEL LAMB BROWN: WHAT IF SOME OF THE DARKEST EVENTS IN HISTORY
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  ARE CONNECTED BY AN ANCIENT MYSTERY?
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  FROM THE RISE OF HITLER AND THE HOLOCAUST,
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  TO MARXISM AND THE NUCLEAR AGE,
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  TODAY'S GUEST IS HERE TO REVEAL
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  A HIDDEN PATTERN AND WHY IT MAY MATTER
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  MORE THAN EVER BEFORE, FROM HIS NEW BOOK,
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  THE ALTAR OF PERGAMON.
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  WELCOME TO FRIENDS FROM THE TABLE.
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  I'M YOUR HOST, RACHEL LAMB BROWN,
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  AND I'M HERE WITH MY CO-HOST, REBECCA LAMB WEISS.
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  REBECCA LAMB WEISS: HELLO.
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  RACHEL: WELCOME. THIS IS OUR FIRST TIME TOGETHER.
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  REBECCA: YES.
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  AND WHAT A TIME TO BE TOGETHER.
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  RACHEL: I KNOW.
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  WE HAVE SO MUCH TO DIVE INTO.
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  WE'RE REALLY EXCITED FOR TODAY'S SHOW.
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  PLEASE HELP US WELCOME OUR DEAR FRIEND,
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  JONATHAN CAHN.
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  RABBI JONATHAN CAHN: GREAT TO BE HERE.
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  RACHEL: WELCOME TO THE PROGRAM. WE'RE SO EXCITED TO --
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  RABBI CAHN: I'M HONORED IT'S THE FIRST TIME YOU'RE TOGETHER.
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  RACHEL: I KNOW! I MEAN, IT WAS RABBI CAHN.
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  REBECCA: I'D DO IT FOR YOU.
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  RACHEL: THIS IS FAMILY, SO WE HAD TO BRING
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  THE FAM TOGETHER.
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  RABBI CAHN: YEAH.
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  RACHEL: WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT YOUR NEW BOOK,
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  THE ALTAR OF PERGAMON,
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  THE MYSTERY OF THE DARK ANGEL
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  AND THE FUTURE OF THE WORLD.
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  IF THAT IS NOT A TITLE THAT GETS YOU TO
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  WANT TO READ SOMETHING, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE IS.
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  THIS IS FASCINATING.
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  I'M EXCITED TO DIVE INTO THIS TODAY.
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  FOR ALL OF THOSE WATCHING, TELL US WHAT
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  THE ALTAR OF PERGAMON IS, AND WHAT DOES IT REVEAL.
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  RABBI CAHN: OKAY. THE ALTAR OF PERGAMON
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  IS AN ACTUAL REAL OBJECT
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  THAT'S IN THE WORLD RIGHT NOW.
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  AND THE THING IS, AND THE MYSTERY GOES BACK TO
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  THE BOOK OF REVELATION.
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  ALSO, BY THE WAY, IT GOES BACK TO ISAIAH
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  WHEN HE QUOTES SATAN ON THIS.
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  SO OVERALL, IT'S BIG.
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  IT'S A COLOSSAL MYSTERY.
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  IT TOUCHES THE WHOLE WORLD.
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  RACHEL: HOW DOES ISAIAH QUOTE SATAN?
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  RABBI CAHN: ISAIAH, ISAIAH 14,
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  HE QUOTES LUCIFER, ACTUALLY,
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  AND IT SAYS, LUCIFER SAID, I WILL ASCEND, I WILL,
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  I WILL EXALT MY THRONE.
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  I WILL LIFT UP MY THRONE.
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  SO SATAN IS SAYING, I HAVE A THRONE.
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  I WILL LIFT IT UP.
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  AND HE SAYS, I WILL SIT ON THE MOUNTAIN OF THE ASSEMBLY.
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  THAT'S THE MOUNTAIN OF GOD.
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  I WILL BE LIKE THE MOST HIGH.
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  SO THAT'S THERE.
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  THEN YOU GO TO REVELATION.
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  AND IN REVELATION 2 IT SAYS, TO THOSE OF PERGAMON,
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  WHERE THE THRONE OF SATAN IS.
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  REBECCA: OH, WOW.
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  RABBI CAHN: YEAH.
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  SO YOU'VE GOT A LINK BETWEEN ISAIAH,
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  THE THRONE OF SATAN IS.
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  AND IT SAYS WHERE SATAN DWELLS.
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  SO THAT'S BIG THAT THE BIBLE'S ACTUALLY IDENTIFYING
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  A PLACE ON EARTH WHERE THE THRONE OF SATAN IS.
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  RACHEL: SO WHEN LUCIFER WAS CAST OUT OF HEAVEN,
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  HE CAME HERE AND BUILT AN ALTAR FOR HIMSELF?
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  RABBI CAHN: IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE THERE IS
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  A LINK TO THAT.
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  YEAH. I MEAN, HE IS ON EARTH.
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  I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THAT.
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  HE WORKS IN THE WORLD.
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  AND WHAT IS THE THRONE?
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  I MEAN, A THRONE IS A PLACE WHERE YOU SIT.
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  A THRONE IS A PLACE WHERE YOU RULE FROM.
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  REBECCA: AUTHORITY.
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  RABBI CAHN: YEAH, AUTHORITY.
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  YOUR AUTHORITY GOES FORTH, YOUR WILL GOES FORTH,
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  YOUR POWER GOES FORTH.
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  SO IT'S IDENTIFYING THAT.
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  AND WE WERE TALKING THE OTHER TIME, THERE IS --
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  I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO GET THIS IN RIGHT NOW
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  WITH HANUKKAH, BUT IT GOES BACK TO THAT.
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  BUT IT GOES BACK TO A WAR THAT WAS BACK THEN, ACTUALLY.
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  SO PERGAMON IS A PAGAN PLACE.
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  I JUST CAME BACK FROM, I'D NEVER BEEN THERE,
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  I JUST CAME BACK FROM THERE BECAUSE I DID A,
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  I DID A TOUR OF REVELATION AND PAUL.
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  AND SO I WENT UP TO THE HIGH PLACE.
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  SO ON THE HIGH PLACE, THERE'S A HIGH PLACE IN PERGAMON.
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  AND THEY HAVE ON THERE, THE BIGGEST THING
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  WAS CALLED THE GREAT ALTAR.
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  AND IT WAS A PAGAN ALTAR, SACRIFICES, ALTAR TO --
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  RACHEL: WHAT DID THEY SACRIFICE?
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  RABBI CAHN: BURNT OFFERINGS.
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  AND, I MEAN, THERE IS, THERE IS WRITINGS THAT THERE
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  MAY HAVE BEEN HUMANS.
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  RACHEL: THAT'S WHAT I WAS WONDERING.
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  RABBI CAHN: THERE IS A, THERE IS A --
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  WELL, IT SAYS IN REVELATION, IT SAYS,
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  WHERE ANTIPAS, MY FAITHFUL, FAITHFUL ONE, WAS MARTYRED.
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  AND THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE FIRST INSTANCE OF SOMEBODY
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  WHO IS CITED IN THE BIBLE BY NAME,
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  WHO IS MARTYRED OUTSIDE OF ISRAEL IN THE ROMAN WORLD,
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  AND THAT'S RIGHT BY THE --
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  NOW, SOME OF THE --
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  THERE'S SOME WRITINGS THAT SAY THAT
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  HE WAS MARTYRED RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE ALTAR,
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  OR THAT HE WAS BURNED IN THIS, IN THIS KIND OF,
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  KIND OF BOWL, YOU KNOW, THIS KIND OF THING.
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  SO IT'S LINKED TO, I MEAN, IT'S DEMONIC.
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  IT'S DEMONIC.
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  AND SO THE, THE BIBLE IS LINKING THIS TO SATAN,
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  WHICH OF COURSE IT IS.
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  BUT WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT
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  WHEN THE BIBLE, WHEN THE GOSPEL GOES TO
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  THE ROMAN WORLD, THEY ABANDON THE GODS, YOU KNOW.
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  AND THE ALTAR GETS ABANDONED AND IT FALLS INTO RUINS.
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  IT'S HIDDEN NOW.
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  SO THE THRONE OF SATAN, IT'S LIKE, THE THRONE OF SATAN
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  IS HIDDEN WHILE THE GOSPEL GOES OUT.
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  AND, YOU KNOW, THE GOSPEL RESTRAINS THE POWER
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  OF THE ENEMY.
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  YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS EVIL, BUT HE RESTRAINS IT.
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  SO, THE THRONE OF SATAN IS IN THE GROUND.
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  IT'S THERE FOR AGES AND AGES.
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  BUT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF SOMEONE DUG IT UP
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  AND BROUGHT IT BACK INTO THE WORLD?
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  WELL, IT HAPPENS.
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  AND, AGAIN, WE SAY THIS AND I WAS TALKING WITH JOSH
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  THAT IT'S LIKE INDIANA JONES, BUT IT'S --
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  EXCEPT THAT IT'S REAL.
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  RACHEL: YEAH.
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  HOW WOULD SOMEONE EVEN KNOW TO DIG UP THE ALTAR,
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  THAT IT WAS EVEN THERE?
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  RABBI CAHN: FIRST OFF, THE GUY DIDN'T KNOW.
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  HE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS AT FIRST.
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  HE CAME FROM ACROSS THE WORLD.
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  HE COMES TO PERGAMON.
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  RACHEL: WHICH IS A PLACE.
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  IT'S A PLACE. IS IT A MOUNTAIN?
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  RABBI CAHN: IT'S A PLACE.
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  YEAH, IT'S A HIGH PLACE.
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  IT'S A HIGH PLACE.
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  IT'S LIKE A MOUNTAIN.
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  REBECCA: WHERE IS IT LOCATED TODAY,
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  IN MODERN TIMES?
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  RABBI CAHN: IT'S IN TURKEY, WHICH WAS ASIA MINOR,
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  WHERE THE CHURCHES OF REVELATION WERE.
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  SO IN ORDER, IN FACT, TO SEE IT, PRETTY MUCH
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  YOU GO UP ON A, ON A,
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  LIKE A -- WHAT'S A, YOU KNOW, A SKI LIFT.
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  REBECCA: OH, A GONDOLA.
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  RABBI CAHN: YEAH, WELL, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
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  REBECCA: WE'RE NOT SKIERS.
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  RACHEL: A LIFT.
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  A LIFT OF SOME SORT.
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  RABBI CAHN: YOU GO UP ON A LIFT.
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  BUT TO SEE IT, YOU GO UP THERE.
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  SO IT'S A HIGH PLACE, IT'S LIKE A MOUNTAIN.
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  SO, THE THING IS THAT THE GUY SEES IT,
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  SEES THE RUINS AND SAYS,
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  OKAY, THIS IS SOMETHING HERE,
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  TAKES TWO PIECES OF IT.
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  HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.
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  HE DOESN'T EVEN KNOW AT THAT POINT
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  IT'S THE ALTAR OF PERGAMON.
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  FORGET IT.
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  NOT EVEN -- FORGET ABOUT THE THRONE OF SATAN,
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  HE DOESN'T EVEN KNOW THAT. BUT HE TAKES IT AND SENDS IT BACK TO HIS HOMELAND.
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  HIS HOMELAND IS GOING TO BECOME JOINED TO
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  THE THRONE OF SATAN IN A BIG WAY.
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  THE THRONE -- WHAT WAS THE LAND?
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  IT WAS THE LAND OF GERMANY.
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  GERMANY IS GOING TO BE --
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  THINK ABOUT WHERE THIS IS GOING.
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  THINK ABOUT THE STRATEGY OF THE ENEMY,
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  WHERE THIS IS GOING.
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  THIS, THROUGH THIS, THIS MYSTERY,
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  IS GOING TO LAY BEHIND, LIE BEHIND
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  THE WORLD, WORLD WAR I.
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  IT'S GOING TO BE LINKED TO WORLD WAR II,
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  THE ATOMIC AGE, AS WE SAY;
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  HITLER, NAZISM, THE THIRD REICH,
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  THE HOLOCAUST, NOW, END-TIME PROPHECY.
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  IT'S EVEN LINKED TO THE INTERNET,
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  AS WE WERE TALKING BEFORE,
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  EVEN TO AN AMERICAN LEADER.
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  RACHEL: WOW.
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  RABBI CAHN: SO THIS, AND END-TIME PROPHECY.
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  BUT IT BEGINS THROUGH THIS.
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  SO HE SENDS IT BACK.
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  AND NOW THE THING IS, PEOPLE THINK,
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  WHEN THEY THINK OF GERMANY, THEY THINK OF, OKAY,
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  ENGLAND, FRANCE, GERMANY, ALWAYS EXISTED.
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  NO, GERMANY IS NEW.
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  GERMANY ONLY CAME INTO THE WORLD IN 1871.
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  1871 IS THE SAME TIME THAT THE THRONE OF SATAN
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  COMES INTO THE WORLD, AND THE PIECES GO TO GERMANY.
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  SO THEY'RE ALL LINKED TOGETHER.
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  YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE IT'S A SATANIC SETUP.
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  RACHEL: AND THERE WAS A SIGN THAT WOULD APPEAR
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  IN THE WORLD --
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  RABBI CAHN: YES.
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  RACHEL: AROUND THE SAME TIME --
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  RABBI CAHN: WE DIDN'T EVEN TALK ABOUT IT. YEAH.
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  RACHEL: THAT THE ALTAR DID. WHAT WAS THAT SIGN?
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  RABBI CAHN: YEAH.
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  ANOTHER GERMAN GUY NAMED, A GUY NAMED
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  HEINRICH SCHLIEMANN, GOES LOOKING FOR
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  THE LOST CITY OF TROY.
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  AND HE ENDS UP, HE ENDS UP IN THE SAME, LIKE, ODYSSEY.
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  ENDS UP IN THE SAME REGION, SAY ASIA MINOR, SURE.
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  HE ENDS UP DIGGING UP AND HE FINDS ALL THESE ANCIENT --
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  THIS ANCIENT SIGN AND, LIKE, ALMOST 2,000 VERSIONS OF IT.
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  BECOMES A BIG SENSATION AND A BIG HIT IN GERMANY.
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  WHAT WAS THE SIGN?
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  IT'S THE SAME TIME.
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  IT WAS THE SWASTIKA.
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  SO THE SWASTIKA COMES INTO THE WORLD AT THE SAME MOMENT
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  AS THE THRONE OF SATAN COMES INTO THE WORLD,
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  AND GERMANY COMES INTO THE WORLD.
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  THEY ALL COME TOGETHER.
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  REBECCA: I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
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  WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT SWASTIKA HE FOUND
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  AND THEN THE ONE THAT COMES FROM HINDUISM?
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  RABBI CAHN: INTERESTING.
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  OKAY. THE SWASTIKA IS A PAGAN SYMBOL.
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  REBECCA: OKAY.
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  RABBI CAHN: AND SO IT EXISTS IN,
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  IN HINDI, IN INDIA.
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  AND THE WORD SWASTIKA IS FROM INDIA.
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  SWASTIKA.
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  BUT IT'S NOT JUST THERE.
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  IT'S IN OTHER PAGAN PLACES.
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  GREECE, TURKEY.
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  REBECCA: I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
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  RABBI CAHN: YEAH.
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  RACHEL: DID IT ALWAYS MEAN AND REPRESENT THE SAME THING,
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  LIKE HATRED TOWARDS THE JEWS?
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  RABBI CAHN: I DON'T KNOW IF IT ALWAYS REPRESENTED --
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  RACHEL: OR DID HITLER JUST TAKE A SIGN
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  THAT WAS ALREADY USED AND ADAPT IT TO MEAN THAT?
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  RABBI CAHN: WHAT HAPPENED IS WHEN THE --
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  AND THIS GOES TO THE NEXT PART.
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  WHEN THE -- THEY DON'T --
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  THE ALTAR DOESN'T JUST STAY THERE.
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  GERMANY NOW STARTS SENDING PEOPLE TO DIG IT UP.
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  SO, AGAIN, IT'S LIKE INDIANA JONES.
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  THEY'RE DIGGING IT UP.
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  IT'S IN MANY PIECES BECAUSE IT'S BIG.
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  AND THEY PUT IT ONTO ANIMALS TO CARRY DOWN
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  THE THING ONTO CRATES.
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  THEY LOAD THEM INTO SHIPS AND THE SHIPS TAKE
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  THE THRONE OF SATAN ACROSS THE WATERS TO EUROPE.
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  THEY PUT THEM ONTO TRAINS, THEY GO TO BERLIN.
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  SO THE THRONE OF SATAN HAS NOW MOVED, FOR THE FIRST TIME
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  IN ITS HISTORY, SINCE ANCIENT TIMES,
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  TO BERLIN, GERMANY.
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  OKAY.
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  AND AT THE SAME MOMENT, THE SWASTIKAS YOU'RE --
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  BECOME, IT STARTS BECOMING MORE AND MORE POPULAR
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  IN GERMANY.
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  AT THE SAME MOMENT THAT THE ALTAR COMES TO GERMANY,
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  AN OCCULTIC REVIVAL GOES THROUGHOUT GERMANY.
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  AND AT THE SAME TIME, THIS IS NOW 1878,
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  THEY START DIGGING IT,
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  THEY START PUTTING THE PIECES TO TRANSFER IT.
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  1878, A NEW WORD COMES INTO THE WORLD THAT HAD NEVER
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  BEEN IN THE WORLD BEFORE.
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  AND IT COMES IN GERMANY, AND IT'S THE WORD,
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  ANTISEMITISM.
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  IT'S BORN WITH THE ALTAR ARRIVING.
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  AND ANTISEMITISM IS A MODERN MOVEMENT
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  OF AN ANCIENT HATRED,
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  BUT IT'S A MODERN MOVEMENT.
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  IT'S BORN WITH THE ALTAR IN GERMANY.
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  AND SO IT'S SPREADING.
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  AND THE ANTI -- AND MANY OF THE
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  ANTISEMITIC ORGANIZATIONS IN GERMANY,
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  THEY LIKE THE SWASTIKA.
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  SO THEY'RE ADOPTING IT BEFORE HITLER DOES.
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  IT'S ALREADY BEING LINKED TO PAGANISM.
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  REBECCA: OH, WOW.
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  RABBI CAHN: IT'S BEING LINKED TO THE OCCULT.
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  IT'S BEING LINKED TO THE HATRED OF THE JEWS.
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  SO IT'S ALREADY -- AND THEY ALL CAME FROM THE SAME PLACE.
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  AND, AGAIN, LINKED TO THE THRONE OF SATAN.
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  RACHEL: SO IS THE MYSTERY THAT THESE EVENTS
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  ARE CONCURRING SIMULTANEOUSLY --
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  RABBI CAHN: YEAH.
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  RACHEL: AS FAR AS WAS IT INTENTIONAL OR IS IT
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  A CAUSE AND EFFECT?
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  LIKE, THIS THING IS MOVED,
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  AND WHEN THIS THING IS BROUGHT HERE,
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  IT RELEASES SOMETHING THAT CAUSES THESE
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  EVIL THINGS TO HAPPEN.
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  RABBI CAHN: WELL, WHEN THE -- IT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
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  WHEN THE ALTAR IS MOVED, THINGS HAPPEN.
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  WHATEVER HAPPENS TO THE ALTAR, YOU CAN FOLLOW
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  THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD BY LOOKING AT THAT ALTAR,
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  WHAT HAPPENS NOW TO IT.
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  BUT, YES.
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  YEAH.
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  NOW, I DON'T THINK THE PEOPLE INVOLVED ARE
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  UNDERSTANDING IT.
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  NOW, AT ONE POINT BEFORE THEY MOVED IT,
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  THEY REALIZED IT WAS THE ALTAR OF PERGAMON.
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  BUT THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT THINKING THRONE OF SATAN,
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  AND WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN,
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  WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN FROM IT.
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  RACHEL: SO THEY'RE LOOKING AT IT AS JUST LIKE
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  AN ANCIENT ALTAR OF ZEUS OR --
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  RABBI CAHN: YES.
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  RACHEL: PAGAN GODS, NOT NECESSARILY REALIZING
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  THAT IT WAS THE ALTAR OF SATAN?
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  RABBI CAHN: I DON'T BELIEVE SO. I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
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  YOU KNOW, AND YET, EVEN THOUGH
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  THERE'S AN OCCULT EXPLOSION GOING ON IN GERMANY,
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  THE ONES WHO DID IT, YOU KNOW,
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  AND THE OTHER THING IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S LINKED TO ZEUS.
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  NOW, ZEUS IS THE KING OF THE GODS, YOU KNOW.
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  BUT THE BIBLE SAYS BEHIND THE GODS ARE SPIRITS.
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  AND WHO IS, WHO'S OVER ALL THE SPIRITS,
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  THE DARK SPIRITS? SATAN.
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  SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE JUST A MASK OF SATAN.
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  BUT IT GOES TO GERMANY AND THEN -- AND IT'S IN BERLIN.
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  AND IN BERLIN, IT'S IN PIECES.
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  AND THEY DECIDE TO START PUTTING IT BACK TOGETHER AGAIN.
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  SO NOW THINK OF LIKE A MOVIE.
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  THEY'RE PUTTING IT BACK.
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  THEY'RE REBUILDING THE THRONE OF SATAN.
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  RACHEL: RECONSTRUCTING.
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  RABBI CAHN: YES.
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  AND THEY KIND OF DO IT,
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  THEY KIND OF -- THEY DON'T DO IT FOR THE PUBLIC YET.
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  IT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
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  BUT, SO THEY START DOING IT IN 1888.
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  IN 1889, IT APPEARED -- IT'S TOGETHER.
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  THEY FINISHED.
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  OKAY.
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  THE FIRST TIME SINCE ANCIENT TIMES, IT APPEARS.
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  SAME MOMENT, SOMETHING ELSE COMES INTO THE WORLD,
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  APPEARS AT THE SAME MOMENT.
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  AND THAT'S A CHILD.
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  THEY CALLED THE NAME OF THE CHILD ADOLF HITLER.
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  SO HITLER COMES INTO THE WORLD WITH THE THRONE OF SATAN.
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  AND HIS WHOLE LIFE IS GOING TO BE JOINED
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  TO THAT MYSTERY, HIS RISING, HIS EVERYTHING
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  IS GOING TO BE JOINED, EVEN TO THE END OF HIS LIFE.
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  IT'S GOING TO BE JOINED TO THE MYSTERY OF
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  THE THRONE OF SATAN.
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  RACHEL: WHAT DOES THE ACTUAL ALTAR LOOK LIKE?
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  LIKE, IS IT BIG?
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  RABBI CAHN: IT'S VERY -- WAIT, SAY IT AGAIN.
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  RACHEL: IS IT BIG?
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  RABBI CAHN: IT'S BIG. IT'S BIG.
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  IT'S ALMOST -- I WOULD SAY IT'S LIKE 100 FEET,
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  100 FEET BY 100 FEET.
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  YEAH, IT'S BIG. IT'S BIG.
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  AND IT'S, IT'S MASSIVE.
• 11:35
  AND IT HAS ALL THESE GODS AROUND IT,
• 11:38
  LIKE, ENGRAVED IN THE STONE.
• 11:39
  AND THAT'S WHY IT TOOK SO LONG TO, TO BRING IT OVER.
• 11:43
  YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S WHY IT WAS SUCH A BIG THING
• 11:44
  TO PUT IT TOGETHER.
• 11:45
  SO THAT COMES, YOU KNOW, AND NOW ALSO,
• 11:48
  WE WON'T BE ABLE TO GET INTO THE DETAILS,
• 11:50
  BUT WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE ALTAR IS
• 11:52
  SETTING IN MOTION, YOU KNOW,
• 11:54
  THE ENEMY'S A DESTROYER.
• 11:55
  IT'S SETTING IN MOTION A CALAMITY, WORLD WAR I.
• 11:58
  AND WHY DO YOU HAVE WORLD WAR I?
• 11:59
  IT ALL BEGINS WITH 1871, THE BIRTH OF GERMANY.
• 12:02
  WITHOUT GERMANY, YOU WOULD NOT HAVE WORLD WAR I.
• 12:04
  AND GERMAN MILITARISM AND NATIONALISM AND A LOT OF
• 12:07
  OTHER THINGS ARE ALL CONVERGING.
• 12:08
  SO THIS IS BEHIND WORLD WAR I AS WELL.
• 12:11
  AND THEN, AND THEN WE GET TO SOMETHING STRANGE AFTER THAT,
• 12:13
  WHICH HAS TO DO WITH THE OCCULT.
• 12:15
  RACHEL: YEAH. OKAY.
• 12:16
  SO TALK ABOUT, IS IT THE THULE SOCIETY,
• 12:17
  AND WHY WAS THAT SIGNIFICANT?
• 12:20
  RABBI CAHN: ANOTHER GERMAN GUY GOES TO THE LAND OF THE ALTAR,
• 12:24
  TO TURKEY AND THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE.
• 12:26
  AND THE ALTARS HAVE BEEN TAKEN,
• 12:28
  BUT HE GETS INTO THIS OCCULT TURKISH MYSTICISM.
• 12:32
  HE SAYS I GOTTA BRING THAT TO GERMANY
• 12:33
  FROM THE SAME LAND.
• 12:35
  SO HE GOES BACK TO GERMANY, STARTS AN ORGANIZATION
• 12:37
  THAT HE CALLS THE THULE SOCIETY.
• 12:39
  THULE SOCIETY IS OCCULT, TOTAL OCCULT.
• 12:42
  THE OCCULTIC SOCIETY DECIDES TO START A LITTLE PARTY.
• 12:45
  THE PARTY WILL BECOME THE NAZI PARTY.
• 12:48
  SO THE NAZI PARTY IS BORN OF THE OCCULT, YOU KNOW.
• 12:53
  RACHEL: SO WAS IT A POLITICAL PARTY?
• 12:54
  RABBI CAHN: YES.
• 12:55
  RACHEL: WHEN YOU SAY PARTY, IT WAS INTENTIONAL,
• 12:57
  WE'RE TAKING WHAT WE BELIEVE ARE OCCULT PRACTICES
• 12:59
  AND WE'RE ACTUALLY INFUSING THEM INTO OUR GOVERNMENT.
• 13:02
  RABBI CAHN: THEY WANTED TO INFLUENCE,
• 13:03
  THIS OCCULT SOCIETY, WANTED TO INFLUENCE GERMANY
• 13:06
  WITH THIS KNOWLEDGE, WITH THIS THING THAT WAS STARTED
• 13:08
  LINKED TO TURKEY, THE LAND OF THE ALTAR.
• 13:11
  SO THEY BRING IT, THEY DO IT THROUGH THAT PARTY.
• 13:13
  RACHEL: AND WHAT WAS THEIR MAIN OBJECTIVE?
• 13:15
  RABBI CAHN: I THINK TO INFLUENCE GERMANY.
• 13:17
  YEAH. AND BY THE WAY --
• 13:18
  RACHEL: FOR WHAT, THOUGH, WHAT WERE THEY WANTING
• 13:19
  TO INFLUENCE THEM TO?
• 13:21
  RABBI CAHN: WELL, ONE, THEY WERE INTO GERMAN, LIKE, MYTHOLOGY,
• 13:24
  YOU KNOW, THE MASTER RACE, THIS WHOLE THING.
• 13:26
  AND THEY HATED THE JEWS, YOU KNOW.
• 13:29
  THEY'RE OCCULT AND THEY HATED THE JEWS,
• 13:31
  YOU KNOW, ALL THAT.
• 13:32
  AND SO IT WAS ALL, IT WAS ALL --
• 13:34
  RACHEL: SO THAT NEVER REALLY ACTUALLY CAME FROM HITLER,
• 13:36
  HE WAS JUST INFLUENCED BY THOSE IDEAS AND BROUGHT THEM --
• 13:38
  RABBI CAHN: YOU MEAN THE PARTY? THE PARTY?
• 13:40
  RACHEL: YEAH.
• 13:41
  RABBI CAHN: THE PARTY EXISTS,
• 13:42
  THE PARTY CAME INTO EXISTENCE JUST BEFORE HITLER
• 13:44
  ENTERS INTO IT.
• 13:46
  HITLER HAS SURVIVED.
• 13:47
  HITLER WAS IN THE WAR.
• 13:49
  HE COMES OUT.
• 13:50
  AND A STRANGE THING, BECAUSE HE WAS --
• 13:52
  BY THE WAY, HERE'S ANOTHER THING
• 13:53
  I DIDN'T SHARE EARLIER.
• 13:54
  YOU KNOW, THERE WAS -- THE CULT REVIVAL IN THESE LANDS
• 13:57
  HAD THREE CENTERS.
• 13:58
  ONE WAS VIENNA, ONE WAS MUNICH,
• 14:01
  AND THE OTHER WAS BERLIN.
• 14:02
  HITLER'S LIFE GOES TO VIENNA WHERE HE GETS,
• 14:05
  HE BECOMES -- HE GETS THIS HATRED OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
• 14:08
  THEN HE GOES TO MUNICH, WHERE HE JOINS THE NAZI PARTY.
• 14:11
  AND THEN HE GOES TO BERLIN TO RULE
• 14:12
  WITH THE ALTAR, WITH THE THRONE OF SATAN.
• 14:14
  REBECCA: WOW.
• 14:16
  RABBI CAHN: SO IT'S ALL LINKED TOGETHER. SO THE THING IS THAT, YEAH, HITLER DIDN'T INVENT IT,
• 14:19
  BUT HITLER, IT'S ALMOST LIKE THE ENEMY
• 14:20
  IS JUST PUTTING A CHESS PIECE, HE'S LIKE PLAYING CHESS.
• 14:22
  HE'S PUTTING IT THIS WAY.
• 14:23
  SO HITLER COMES INTO THAT PARTY.
• 14:24
  THERE'S ONLY A FEW PEOPLE THERE.
• 14:26
  HE COMES INTO IT TO SPY ON IT, AND YET HE LIKES IT
• 14:29
  AND THEY LIKE HIM, AND HE BECOMES THEIR LEADER.
• 14:32
  SO THAT'S HOW IT BEGINS.
• 14:34
  AND, AND THE SAME TIME GERMANY SAYS,
• 14:38
  LET'S BUILD A GREAT, YOU KNOW, BUILDING,
• 14:41
  TO HOUSE THIS GREAT ALTAR.
• 14:43
  OKAY.
• 14:44
  REBECCA: WOW.
• 14:45
  RABBI CAHN: SO THEY BUILD THIS MASSIVE THING
• 14:45
  JUST FOR THE ALTAR.
• 14:47
  AND IT'S LIKE, IT'S LIKE A TEMPLE FOR A,
• 14:49
  FOR AN ALTAR.
• 14:50
  BUT IT'S, IT'S GOING TO BE CALLED TODAY
• 14:51
  THE PERGAMON MUSEUM.
• 14:53
  BUT IT'S, IT'S BUILT FOR THAT ALTAR.
• 14:54
  RACHEL: WOW.
• 14:55
  RABBI CAHN: SO THEY START BUILDING IT,
• 14:57
  IT STARTS RISING IN THE 1920S,
• 14:59
  AT THE SAME MOMENT HITLER IS RISING WITH
• 15:02
  THE ALTAR, WITH THIS.
• 15:03
  RACHEL: OKAY. WELL, TALK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED
• 15:05
  WHEN HITLER ROSE TO POWER.
• 15:05
  RABBI CAHN: YEAH.
• 15:07
  WELL, WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT IN 1930, GERMANY OPENS UP THIS,
• 15:10
  AND THE ALTAR IS SHOWN FOR THE FIRST TIME
• 15:12
  IN ITS FULL, FULLNESS ALTOGETHER TO THE WORLD.
• 15:16
  IT'S A DATE, IT'S IN OCTOBER 1930.
• 15:18
  THE DATE THAT IT COMES INTO THE WORLD.
• 15:20
  NOW, THINK ABOUT HOW THE ENEMY TAKES THINGS OF GOD,
• 15:22
  AND IT WAS ON THE HOLIEST DAY OF THE BIBLE, YOM KIPPUR,
• 15:26
  WHICH IS THE DAY OF THE ALTAR OF GOD.
• 15:28
  AND WHEN JEWISH PEOPLE ARE SAVED BY THE BLOOD OF THE ALTAR,
• 15:31
  AND YET NOW IT'S SATAN'S ALTAR,
• 15:33
  IT'S NOT GOING TO SAVE THE JEWISH PEOPLE,
• 15:34
  IT'S GOING TO GO TO TRY TO DESTROY THEM.
• 15:36
  RACHEL: WOW.
• 15:36
  RABBI CAHN: AND SO, SO YOM KIPPUR.
• 15:38
  AND AT THE SAME MOMENT IN THE 1928 ELECTION IN GERMANY,
• 15:42
  THE NAZIS GOT 2 PERCENT OF THE VOTE.
• 15:44
  2 PERCENT.
• 15:45
  IT LOOKED LIKE THEY WERE FINISHED.
• 15:47
  BUT WHEN THE ALTAR COMES OUT AT THE SAME MOMENT,
• 15:49
  THERE'S ANOTHER ELECTION AT THAT TIME,
• 15:50
  AND HITLER IS CATAPULTED,
• 15:52
  BECOMES THE SECOND LARGEST PARTY IN GERMANY,
• 15:53
  THEN THE NUMBER ONE, AND THEN HE TAKES OVER.
• 15:56
  BUT THE TURNAROUND ALL HAPPENED WITH THE,
• 15:58
  WHEN THE ALTAR WAS RELEASED.
• 15:59
  RACHEL: SO DO YOU THINK THAT THE ALTAR HAD SOME TYPE
• 16:01
  OF POWER OR INFLUENCE?
• 16:03
  RABBI CAHN: I DON'T -- I DON'T GET INTO --
• 16:04
  THERE'S SOMETHING.
• 16:05
  POWER IS LINKED TO IT.
• 16:07
  IT'S CONNECTED TO IT.
• 16:08
  IT'S LIKE A, IT'S LIKE A FOCAL POINT,
• 16:10
  YOU KNOW, AN ALTAR, AN ALTAR.
• 16:12
  SOMEONE SAID AN ALTAR IS LIKE A, LIKE A PORTAL
• 16:14
  BECAUSE IT'S GOING BETWEEN THE GOD AND,
• 16:17
  AND THE SACRIFICE, YOU KNOW.
• 16:18
  RACHEL: RIGHT.
• 16:19
  RABBI CAHN: SO THE THING IS THAT I DON'T KNOW
• 16:20
  THE MECHANICS OF IT,
• 16:21
  BUT I KNOW THAT EVERYTHING FOLLOWS IT
• 16:23
  OR IT GOES, EVERYTHING FOLLOWS IT.
• 16:25
  THE ALTAR IS THERE AT EVERY POINT.
• 16:26
  YEAH.
• 16:28
  REBECCA: AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING THROUGH THIS IS,
• 16:29
  YOU'RE CONNECTING --
• 16:30
  RABBI CAHN: YES.
• 16:31
  REBECCA: THIS ANCIENT THING AND HOW OUR BATTLE
• 16:34
  IS NOT AGAINST FLESH AND BLOOD,
• 16:35
  IT'S AGAINST PRINCIPALITIES.
• 16:37
  AND SO BY IN THIS BOOK, YOU'RE CONNECTING
• 16:39
  THAT MYSTERY OF THAT, ALL THIS STUFF
• 16:41
  THAT YOU'RE JUST SEEING IN THE NATURAL,
• 16:42
  THERE'S A SPIRITUAL COMPONENT BEHIND IT.
• 16:44
  RABBI CAHN: EVERYTHING WE'RE SEEING, YES.
• 16:45
  THE BIGGEST THINGS IN THE WORLD THAT HAVE AFFECTED
• 16:47
  ALL OF OUR LIVES,
• 16:48
  I MEAN, I'M SAYING BIG THINGS.
• 16:49
  THERE'S A -- BEHIND IT ALL IS THE SPIRITUAL REALM.
• 16:51
  YES. YES.
• 16:52
  SO, SO HITLER IS CATAPULTED TO POWER, OKAY.
• 16:56
  HE TAKES OVER.
• 16:57
  AND HE SAYS, I WANT, I WANT A PEDESTAL.
• 17:00
  I WANT TO BE ABLE TO STAND AND SPEAK TO THE GERMAN MASSES
• 17:03
  ON A COLOSSAL THING.
• 17:05
  SO HE COMMISSIONS HIS ARCHITECT, A GUY NAMED ALBERT SPEER,
• 17:08
  WHO SAYS, OKAY, I'M GOING TO BUILD YOU THAT,
• 17:10
  AND IT'S IN NUREMBERG.
• 17:11
  NOW, NUREMBERG IS THE PLACE WHERE THEY HAD
• 17:13
  THE BIG NAZI RALLIES.
• 17:14
  SO WHENEVER YOU SEE HITLER, YOU SEE HITLER RAGING
• 17:16
  IN FRONT OF LIKE, LOOKS LIKE A MILLION PEOPLE,
• 17:17
  THAT'S NUREMBERG.
• 17:19
  OKAY. SO NUREMBERG, THEY BUILD HIM THIS BIG,
• 17:21
  THIS GIGANTIC PLATFORM.
• 17:22
  HE'S STANDING ON IT WHEN HE GOES CRAZY,
• 17:24
  WHEN HE'S --
• 17:26
  THE PLATFORM TURNS OUT, THE ARCHITECT BUILT IT
• 17:29
  AS A REPRODUCTION OF THE ALTAR OF PERGAMON.
• 17:32
  SO, HITLER'S STANDING, LITERALLY ON THIS
• 17:35
  MASSIVE THRONE OF SATAN,
• 17:37
  AS HE IS CALLING INTO, HE'S INVOKING EVIL.
• 17:40
  HE'S INVOKING DESTRUCTION, WORLD WAR II.
• 17:42
  AND HE'S INVOKING THE -- OTHER DESTRUCTION.
• 17:46
  AND, SO, IT'S ALL --
• 17:47
  I MEAN, IT'S SAYING, JOSH WAS SAYING,
• 17:49
  WE WERE TALKING, YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS UP.
• 17:51
  I MEAN, IF IT'S A MOVIE, YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS UP.
• 17:53
  RACHEL: BUT YOU THINK THE ARCHITECT WAS INTENTIONAL
• 17:55
  IN HIS DESIGN, THAT THE DESIGN WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE
• 17:58
  AN INTRINSIC MEANING BEHIND IT?
• 18:00
  RABBI CAHN: THE ARCHITECT, HE ACTUALLY, I FOUND HIS QUOTE.
• 18:03
  IT'S IN THE BOOK.
• 18:04
  HE ACTUALLY, HE ADMITS IT, WHAT IT WAS.
• 18:06
  BUT I DON'T, AGAIN, I DON'T THINK HE'S TRYING TO SAY
• 18:08
  THRONE OF --
• 18:09
  HE'S REALIZING THRONE OF SATAN.
• 18:10
  RACHEL: THEY JUST THINK IT'S LIKE AN ANCIENT PAGAN.
• 18:12
  RABBI CAHN: ANCIENT, YOU KNOW, ALTAR, ANCIENT THING.
• 18:14
  IT'LL BE TO OUR GLORY THAT WE HAVE THIS
• 18:16
  BECAUSE IT WAS A BIG THING, THAT ALTAR.
• 18:18
  SO HE USES IT FOR HITLER.
• 18:19
  I DON'T EVEN THINK HITLER --
• 18:20
  HITLER IS STANDING ON THE THRONE OF SATAN
• 18:22
  AS HE, AS HE'S USED AS SATAN'S VESSEL.
• 18:25
  RACHEL: WHAT IS IT ABOUT THE ALTAR BEING EXPOSED
• 18:28
  THAT KIND OF OPENED UP THIS, LIKE, COLOSSAL OF EVIL?
• 18:31
  RABBI CAHN: OKAY.
• 18:32
  THE ALTAR, AND IT'S DEEP HERE.
• 18:34
  THE ALTAR IS AN ALTAR OF BURNT OFFERINGS.
• 18:37
  OKAY. SO, FIRST OF ALL,
• 18:39
  AN ALTAR REQUIRES SACRIFICE.
• 18:41
  SO, SO THIS IS ALL GOING TO BE LINKED
• 18:42
  TO DESTRUCTION AND BLOOD.
• 18:44
  AND SO THE ANCIENT GREEKS ARE THE ONES
• 18:46
  WHO BUILT THE ALTAR.
• 18:48
  AND THE WAY THEY SAID IT, THEY DIDN'T CALL IT
• 18:50
  AN ALTAR OF BURNT OFFERINGS
• 18:51
  BECAUSE THEY SPOKE GREEK.
• 18:52
  THE WAY YOU SAY IT IN GREEK IS,
• 18:53
  BURNT IS THE WORD,KAUSTOS.
• 18:56
  AND THE WORD COMPLETELY CONSUMED IS,HOLOS.
• 18:58
  TOGETHER IT CREATES THE WORD, THE HOLOCAUST.
• 19:02
  SO THE ALTAR IS THE ALTAR OF THE HOLOCAUST.
• 19:06
  THE MOMENT IT CAME TO GERMANY, THIS WAS IN
• 19:09
  THE WORKS OF THE ENEMY.
• 19:10
  RACHEL: DO YOU THINK THAT THE HOLOCAUST WAS ACTUALLY ABOUT
• 19:14
  OFFERING HUMAN SACRIFICES TO THAT ALTAR?
• 19:17
  RABBI CAHN: IT WAS.
• 19:18
  IT WAS BY THE ENEMY, YES.
• 19:20
  BY THE ENEMY.
• 19:21
  NOT THAT THEY'RE THINKING IT, BUT THAT'S WHAT HE'S DOING.
• 19:24
  HE HATES THE JEWISH --
• 19:26
  THE ALTAR OF BURNT OFFERING IN THE BIBLE
• 19:28
  SAVED THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
• 19:30
  SO NOW HE'S THE INVERTER.
• 19:31
  SO HE TAKES IT TO TRY TO --
• 19:33
  RACHEL: SO TELL US ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE YOU'RE
• 19:34
  TALKING ABOUT HANUKKAH.
• 19:36
  RABBI CAHN: OKAY. A FEW THINGS ABOUT IT.
• 19:37
  ALL RIGHT. FIRST OF ALL,
• 19:39
  THIS IS GOING TO SOUND STRANGE,
• 19:40
  BUT THE WORDHOLOCAUST IS IN THE BIBLE.
• 19:42
  OKAY.
• 19:44
  THE FIRST TRANSLATION OF THE BIBLE IS THE
• 19:45
  GREEK VERSION, WHICH IS THE SEPTUAGINT.
• 19:48
  NEW TESTAMENT USES IT.
• 19:50
  WHEN IT GETS TO, LIKE,
• 19:51
  WHEN GOD SAYS TO ABRAHAM, OFFER UP YOUR SON,
• 19:54
  IT SAYS IN THE SEPTUAGINT, AS A HOLOCAUST.
• 19:56
  YOU HAVE A WHOLE JEWISH PEOPLE IN ISAAC.
• 19:58
  IN LEVITICUS, IT'S --
• 20:00
  IN LEVITICUS, IT SAYS,
• 20:02
  THESE ARE, THESE ARE THE LAWS OF THE HOLOCAUST.
• 20:05
  THESE ARE THE LAWS OF THE HOLOCAUST IN THE BIBLE.
• 20:08
  AND IT SAYS THAT THE ALTAR WILL BE BURNED IN
• 20:10
  THE FIRE CONTINUALLY.
• 20:11
  THERE'LL BE ASHES.
• 20:11
  THINK OF THE ACTUAL HOLOCAUST.
• 20:13
  IT WAS A, IT WAS AN INVERSION,
• 20:16
  A MIMIC OF SOMETHING HOLY TO SOMETHING THAT'S UNHOLY.
• 20:19
  AND SO, AND SO,
• 20:21
  YOU KNOW, THE WORD HOLOCAUST DOESN'T MEAN A DISASTER.
• 20:23
  IT MEANS A SACRIFICE, AN OFFERING.
• 20:25
  THAT'S WHAT IT MEANS.
• 20:26
  IT WAS THE DEVIL'S SACRIFICE.
• 20:28
  REBECCA: THAT'S WHAT HE ALWAYS DOES.
• 20:29
  HE ALWAYS INVERTS THINGS.
• 20:30
  AND ISAAC IS A REPRESENTATION OF THE CONTINUING,
• 20:33
  REALLY, THE BEGINNING OF THE NATION OF ISRAEL
• 20:35
  BECAUSE HE WOULD GIVE BIRTH TO JACOB.
• 20:36
  RABBI CAHN: YEAH.
• 20:38
  ISRAEL IS IN ISAAC AND YOU GOT, IT SAYS HOLOCAUST.
• 20:40
  AND THEY'RE SAVED BY THE LAMB.
• 20:42
  YOU KNOW, AND EVEN HERE'S ANOTHER THING WITH IT.
• 20:43
  YOU KNOW WHEN THE HOLOCAUST BEGAN?
• 20:45
  I LOOKED ON -- WELL, LET ME SAY THIS.
• 20:47
  WHAT WAS THE FIRST SACRIFICE
• 20:49
  THAT ISRAEL EVER OFFERED UP?
• 20:50
  PASSOVER.
• 20:51
  THE HOLOCAUST BEGAN ON PASSOVER.
• 20:53
  I MEAN, NO --
• 20:54
  REBECCA: WHICH WAS ABOUT SAVING AND FREEING
• 20:56
  THE JEWISH PEOPLE TO LIVE OUT THE PROMISE.
• 20:58
  RABBI CAHN: YEAH.
• 20:59
  AND THE ENEMY HATES PASSOVER.
• 21:00
  PASSOVER IS WHEN JESUS DIED TO SAVE US.
• 21:02
  REBECCA: YES.
• 21:03
  RABBI CAHN: SO IT'S ALL THAT.
• 21:04
  SO, OKAY, TO GO, TO GO TO THAT THING.
• 21:06
  OKAY.
• 21:07
  THIS IS SOMETHING I DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE
• 21:08
  UNTIL I'M PART, PARTLY THROUGH IT.
• 21:10
  AND THAT IS, THIS WHOLE MYSTERY OF
• 21:12
  THE ALTAR OF PERGAMON IS ACTUALLY LINKED TO HANUKKAH.
• 21:15
  HANUKKAH WAS A WAR OF THE KINGDOM OF SATAN
• 21:18
  AGAINST THE KINGDOM OF GOD,
• 21:20
  THROUGH THE GUY NAMED ANTIOCHUS,
• 21:21
  WHO'S A SHADOW OF THE ANTICHRIST
• 21:23
  AND HIS NAME --
• 21:24
  HE CALLED HIMSELF GOD MANIFEST.
• 21:26
  HE COMES ON THE TEMPLE MOUNT, DESECRATES IT,
• 21:29
  LIKE THE ANTICHRIST WILL.
• 21:30
  AND HE DECLARES WAR ON ANYBODY WHO FOLLOWS GOD.
• 21:33
  HE'S GOING TO KILL EVERYBODY.
• 21:34
  YOU GOT TO,
• 21:35
  HE'S GOING TO END THE FAITH.
• 21:36
  OKAY. BY A MIRACLE, GOD GETS HIM OUT.
• 21:38
  THEY THROW HIM OUT.
• 21:40
  THEY WIN.
• 21:41
  THEY CLEANSE THE TEMPLE.
• 21:42
  BUT WHAT WAS IT THAT HE SET UP THAT DEFILED THE TEMPLE?
• 21:46
  IT WAS THE ALTAR OF ZEUS.
• 21:49
  NOW, THE ALTAR OF PERGAMON IS THE ALTAR OF ZEUS.
• 21:51
  NOW, HERE'S THE OTHER THING.
• 21:53
  ANTIOCHUS, I DIDN'T REALIZE, HAD A FRIEND,
• 21:55
  AND HIS FRIEND WAS THE KING OF PERGAMON.
• 21:58
  REBECCA: OH, WOW.
• 21:59
  RABBI CAHN: SO IN A SENSE, THE WAR OF THE ENEMY,
• 22:01
  HE LOST THAT ONE ROUND.
• 22:03
  BUT AT THE SAME MOMENT, AT THE SAME TIME,
• 22:05
  THAT THEY TAKE THE ALTAR OF ZEUS
• 22:07
  OFF THE TEMPLE MOUNT, GOD'S TEMPLE,
• 22:09
  YOU KNOW, THE ENEMY WANTS TO BE ON THE THRONE OF GOD.
• 22:12
  AT THAT SAME MOMENT, THE KING OF PERGAMON
• 22:14
  BUILDS THE ALTAR OF PERGAMON, THRONE OF ZEUS,
• 22:18
  ON THE GREAT MOUNTAIN OF PERGAMON.
• 22:20
  SO IT'S LIKE --
• 22:22
  AND THAT'S PART OF THE SECRET, BECAUSE WHAT IS
• 22:23
  THAT, PERGAMON?
• 22:25
  IT'S WAGING WAR AGAINST THE KINGDOM OF GOD.
• 22:27
  REBECCA: YEAH.
• 22:28
  RABBI CAHN: IT WARS AGAINST THE JEWS THROUGH GERMANY,
• 22:29
  WARS AGAINST ISRAEL, WARS AGAINST CHRISTIANS.
• 22:32
  AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE IT'S ALWAYS,
• 22:33
  IT'S CONTINUING THE WAR OF THE ENEMY.
• 22:35
  AND THE OTHER THING IS THAT WHEN THE LORD SAYS,
• 22:38
  WHEN YOU SEE THE ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION,
• 22:41
  WHEN YOU SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, -- WELL
• 22:43
  WELL, WHAT WAS THE ABOMINATION?
• 22:44
  PEOPLE, THEY KNEW WHAT IT WAS.
• 22:46
  THERE ALREADY HAD BEEN A FORM OF IT, A SHADOW.
• 22:49
  AND THAT WAS WHAT, IT WAS WHAT ANTIOCHUS SET UP
• 22:51
  ON THE TEMPLE MOUNT.
• 22:53
  IT WAS CALLED BY THE JEWS,
• 22:54
  THE ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION.
• 22:56
  SO NOW THE ALTAR WAS THE ALTAR OF ZEUS.
• 22:58
  SO THE ALTAR OF PERGAMON IS THE SAME THING.
• 23:00
  SO COULD THIS BE LINKED TO THE END?
• 23:03
  I'M NOT BEING DOGMATIC HERE, BUT COULD IT BE LINKED
• 23:05
  TO THE END AND TO THE ABOMINATION?
• 23:08
  YOU KNOW, COULD THIS WHOLE MYSTERY,
• 23:10
  THRONE OF SATAN --
• 23:11
  AND THAT MAY EVEN EXPLAIN WHY, YOU KNOW,
• 23:14
  WHY REVELATION IS CALLING PERGAMON THE THRONE OF SATAN.
• 23:17
  BECAUSE IT'S ACTUALLY LINKED TO
• 23:18
  WHAT THE ENEMY PUT UP ON THE THRONE OF GOD
• 23:21
  ON THE TEMPLE MOUNT.
• 23:22
  REBECCA: THAT'S SO POWERFUL.
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  THE CONNECTION TO HANUKKAH WITH THE ABOMINATION
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  OF DESOLATION IN THE BOOK OF REVELATION.
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  RABBI CAHN: YEAH.
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  REBECCA: BECAUSE, AND IT'S CONNECTED TO PERGAMON
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  AND ZEUS BECAUSE THEY TRIED TO STOP THE TEMPLE,
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  WORSHIP AT THE TEMPLE,
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  AND SET UP ZEUS THERE.
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  AND IT WAS THE MIRACLE.
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  NOT ONLY DID THE JEWISH PEOPLE REBEL AND DROVE HIM OUT,
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  BUT THAT GOD PROVIDED THE OIL
• 23:41
  SO THEY COULD CONTINUE THE WORSHIP.
• 23:43
  RABBI CAHN: AND IT'S -- YEAH.
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  AND YOU KNOW WHAT,
• 23:45
  YOU KNOW WHAT ONE OF THE -- THIS IS JUST, I MEAN --
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  RACHEL: YEAH.
• 23:48
  RABBI CAHN: ONE, ONE OF THE SYMBOLS OF ISRAEL RIGHT NOW,
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  YOU KNOW, THE NATIONAL SYMBOL IS NOT
• 23:51
  THE STAR OF DAVID.
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  THAT'S THE FLAG.
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  BUT THE NATIONAL SEAL IS THE HANUKKAH MENORAH.
• 23:56
  AND YOU THINK ABOUT THE ANTICHRIST,
• 23:57
  THINK ABOUT ALL THESE, THE ALTAR OF PERGAMON.
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  IT'S LIKE THE --
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  AND SO IT'S ALL HEADING TO A, TO A, TO A CLIMAX.
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  IT'S ALL HEADING.
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  AND ISRAEL'S PART OF THE MYSTERY AS WELL.
• 24:06
  REBECCA: YEAH.
• 24:07
  RABBI CAHN: AND PART OF THE MYSTERY OF THE ALTAR
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  OF PERGAMON.
• 24:09
  AND HERE'S THE THING, YOU ASKED SOMETHING BEFORE,
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  LIKE, WERE THEY OFFERING THIS AS SACRIFICE?
• 24:14
  YOU KNOW, THE ONE PEOPLE WHO MIGHT HAVE HAD
• 24:16
  SOMETHING LIKE THAT,
• 24:18
  AND THAT WAS THE ONES WHO RAN THE CONCENTRATION CAMPS.
• 24:20
  THEY WERE THE SS, THEY WERE UNDER HEINRICH HIMMLER.
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  HEINRICH HIMMLER WAS INTO THE OCCULT AND THEY WERE
• 24:25
  AN OCCULT ORGANIZATION.
• 24:27
  THEY WERE INTO ALL THIS OCCULT.
• 24:28
  THEY WERE LIKE THE DARK PRIESTHOOD.
• 24:30
  RACHEL: I MEAN, THERE HAS TO BE, THERE HAS TO BE
• 24:32
  SOME TYPE OF BELIEF INSIDE OF YOU
• 24:35
  TO LIKE, JUST TO LIKE, RATIONALIZE
• 24:37
  DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON SUCH A LEVEL.
• 24:40
  YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING
• 24:43
  WITH PURPOSE BECAUSE IT'S SO EVIL.
• 24:45
  RABBI CAHN: THEY THINK, YOU KNOW, THE ENEMY CALLS
• 24:47
  GOOD EVIL AND EVIL GOOD.
• 24:48
  AND THIS IS WHAT THEY CALLED, WHAT HITLER SAID,
• 24:51
  THE JEWS ARE EVIL AND WE HAVE TO GET RID OF THEM.
• 24:53
  AND THE THING IS THAT, THE THING IS THAT,
• 24:55
  BUT YOU JUST TRIGGERED SOMETHING ELSE BECAUSE,
• 24:57
  YOU KNOW, I SAID THE ALTAR CAME, WAS PRESENTED
• 24:59
  TO THE WORLD ON YOM KIPPUR.
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  OKAY.
• 25:01
  AND WHAT IS YOM KIPPUR ABOUT?
• 25:03
  RACHEL: THE DAY OF ATONEMENT.
• 25:04
  RABBI CAHN: WHAT IS IT?
• 25:05
  RACHEL: THE DAY OF ATONEMENT.
• 25:06
  RABBI CAHN: YEAH. AND IT'S THE SACRIFICE.
• 25:07
  THERE'S A SACRIFICE.
• 25:09
  SO THE HOLOCAUST IS COMING.
• 25:10
  AND ALSO IT'S ABOUT THE SCAPEGOAT.
• 25:12
  THE SCAPEGOAT, RIGHT?
• 25:13
  THAT'S WHERE THEY PUT THEIR SINS ON THE --
• 25:15
  SO WHAT HAPPENED TO THE JEWISH PEOPLE RIGHT AFTER THAT?
• 25:18
  GERMANY MAKES THEM, THE NAZIS MAKE THEM THE SCAPEGOAT.
• 25:21
  THEY MAKE THEM THE --
• 25:23
  THE JEWS ARE THE SCAPEGOAT.
• 25:24
  THAT'S FROM YOM KIPPUR.
• 25:25
  AND THEN THEY BECOME THE SACRIFICE, YOU KNOW.
• 25:27
  AND EVEN, AND BY THE WAY,
• 25:29
  EVEN WHEN THAT DAY OF YOM KIPPUR,
• 25:32
  WHEN IT WAS RELEASED, THERE'S A SCRIPTURE
• 25:34
  THAT'S READ IN THE SYNAGOGUES.
• 25:36
  AND WHEN YOU READ THAT SCRIPTURE IN THE SEPTUAGINT,
• 25:38
  IT HAS THE WORD HOLOCAUST FOUR TIMES
• 25:41
  WHEN THAT ALTAR WAS REVEALED.
• 25:42
  REBECCA: SO HOLOCAUST IS A GREEK WORD.
• 25:44
  RABBI CAHN: YES.
• 25:45
  IT'S A GREEK WORD THAT MEANS, THAT'S USED
• 25:48
  IN THE TRANSLATION OF THE BIBLE, THAT SPEAKS OF
• 25:50
  A SACRIFICE AS AN OFFERING AND A SACRIFICE.
• 25:54
  NOW, ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHAT --
• 25:57
  LIKE, HITLER IS OVER THIS WHOLE THING.
• 25:59
  RACHEL: RIGHT.
• 26:00
  RABBI CAHN: AND HITLER'S, OF COURSE, THE MOST EVIL PERSON
• 26:01
  WE HAVE KNOWN.
• 26:03
  AND HE, HE'S REALLY, HE'S LIKE THE PRIEST OF THIS.
• 26:06
  HE'S LIKE THE HIGH PRIEST.
• 26:07
  WELL, WHAT HAPPENS AT THE END?
• 26:08
  AT THE END, HITLER OFFERS UP,
• 26:11
  HE ENDS UP KILLING HIMSELF.
• 26:12
  THE SAME HAND THAT KILLED THE JEWS KILLS HIMSELF.
• 26:15
  ONE, WHEN THE DEVIL'S THROUGH WITH YOU,
• 26:17
  HE CAN'T USE YOU ANYMORE, HE DESTROYS YOU.
• 26:20
  REBECCA: THAT'S TRUE.
• 26:21
  RABBI CAHN: BUT ALSO, WHATEVER YOU DO TO THE JEWS
• 26:21
  GETS DONE TO YOU, YOU KNOW.
• 26:23
  AND WHAT DOES HE DO?
• 26:24
  HE KILLS HIMSELF AND THEN -- IN THAT BUNKER.
• 26:26
  AND THEN WHAT DOES HE DO?
• 26:27
  HE ORDERS, HE ORDERED HIS BODY BE BURNED.
• 26:31
  THE LAST HOLOCAUST OF THE HOLOCAUST
• 26:33
  WAS HITLER HIMSELF.
• 26:35
  RACHEL: WOW.
• 26:36
  RABBI CAHN: AND AT THAT MOMENT, AND YOU SEE --
• 26:38
  THAT MOMENT, NOW THE ALTAR DOESN'T HAVE A MASTER ANYMORE.
• 26:41
  THE ALTAR DOESN'T HAVE AN OWNER BECAUSE HITLER'S GONE.
• 26:43
  HITLER WAS THE ONE AND GERMANY IS WIPED,
• 26:45
  IS GOING TO BE WIPED OUT.
• 26:47
  SO I'M GOING TO HOLD THIS, BUT LET ME SET IT UP.
• 26:48
  SO THE ALTAR IS NOW GOING TO PASS INTO
• 26:51
  THE HANDS OF ANOTHER, AND HISTORY IS
• 26:53
  GOING TO CHANGE AGAIN WHEN IT PASSES INTO THE HANDS
• 26:56
  OF ANOTHER POWER, ANOTHER, ANOTHER ONE.
• 26:59
  AND IT'S GOING TO GO NOT EVEN ONE DAY
• 27:01
  AFTER HIS DEATH, IT'S GOING TO ARRIVE IN ANOTHER
• 27:03
  AND IT'S GOING TO CHANGE THE WORLD AGAIN.
• 27:05
  AND I'M GOING TO -- AND I'LL HOLD ON THAT ONE.
• 27:06
  REBECCA: YEAH.
• 27:08
  RABBI CAHN: WHO WAS IT, WE'LL HOLD ON THAT ONE.
• 27:08
  I THINK IT'S A --
• 27:10
  RACHEL: YEAH.
• 27:11
  RABBI CAHN: BUT LET ME JUST SAY ALL THIS IS REVEALED,
• 27:12
  IF IT'S OKAY, IS REVEALED IN A STORY.
• 27:14
  THE ALTAR OF PERGAMON IS ALL THAT,
• 27:16
  IT'S LIKE 200 MYSTERIES, BUT IT'S REVEALED IN A STORY.
• 27:19
  RACHEL: WHAT MADE YOU DECIDE TO WRITE IT FICTIONWISE,
• 27:21
  INSTEAD OF LIKE, SOME OF YOUR NOVELS
• 27:22
  ARE MORE HISTORICAL-BASED AND THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
• 27:25
  RABBI CAHN: YEAH. YEAH.
• 27:26
  EVERYTHING I WRITE IS, I MEAN, ARE REAL.
• 27:28
  IT'S REAL MYSTERIES, REAL THINGS.
• 27:30
  BUT I'VE DONE FOUR OF THEM WITH STORIES.
• 27:31
  THE HARBINGERWAS THE FIRST ONE.
• 27:32
  I WAS LED THAT THERE'S SO MUCH TO REVEAL HERE,
• 27:34
  I WANT TO REACH MORE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW.
• 27:36
  SO THE THING IS THAT YOU'RE READING IT, YOU KNOW,
• 27:38
  AND, YOU KNOW, LIKE WITHOUT EVEN READING IT,
• 27:39
  YOU'RE READING THE STORY.
• 27:40
  IT'S A THRILLER.
• 27:41
  IT'S A MAN AND A WOMAN.
• 27:42
  AND THEY ARE, AND THEY ARE GOING ACROSS THE WORLD.
• 27:45
  REBECCA: I LOVE IT.
• 27:46
  RABBI CAHN: THERE'S A, THERE'S A MYSTIC BOOK
• 27:48
  AND THEY HAVE TO UNLOCK IT.
• 27:49
  THEY'RE JOURNEYING THROUGH THE WORLD
• 27:51
  AND THERE'S THESE MYSTERIOUS FIGURES,
• 27:53
  AND THERE'S ALSO FORCES TRYING TO STOP THEM AND KILL THEM
• 27:55
  FROM GOING TO THE ALTAR.
• 27:57
  AND, YES, I WAS TOLD THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF ROMANCE.
• 28:00
  RACHEL: A LITTLE ROMANCE, REBECCA.
• 28:02
  RABBI CAHN: A LITTLE BIT. A LITTLE BIT.
• 28:04
  RACHEL: SOMETHING NEW FROM RABBI CAHN
• 28:05
  WE'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE.
• 28:06
  RABBI CAHN: I COULDN'T AVOID IT, IT WENT THERE.
• 28:08
  I EVEN HAD TEARS IN MY EYES AT THE END OF THIS
• 28:09
  WHEN I'M READING ABOUT THAT.
• 28:10
  REBECCA: AWW!
• 28:11
  RABBI CAHN: SO ANYWAY, WHAT MY HOPE IS,
• 28:13
  MY HOPE IS THAT I WROTE IT SO THAT EVEN IF
• 28:15
  YOU'RE NOT A BELIEVER, THAT PEOPLE WILL BE DRAWN IN
• 28:17
  BY THE STORY, A THRILLER, OH, WOW, IT'S INDIANA JONES.
• 28:20
  BUT IT'S GOING TO LEAD THEM TO THE REALITY OF GOD
• 28:23
  AND IT LEADS TO SALVATION.
• 28:24
  SO I'M HOPING PEOPLE GET IT, NOT JUST FOR THEMSELVES,
• 28:26
  BUT FOR PEOPLE AND THEIR LIVES.
• 28:28
  AND IT'S EVERYWHERE.
• 28:28
  RACHEL: AMEN. THAT IS SO GOOD.
• 28:31
  AND WE BARELY SCRATCHED THE SURFACE.
• 28:33
  THERE IS STILL SO MUCH TO UNCOVER.
• 28:35
  STAY TUNED FOR PART TWO AS THE MYSTERY CONTINUES TO UNFOLD.
• 28:40
  AND REMEMBER, THAT NO MATTER HOW DARK
• 28:42
  THE WORLD AROUND US MAY SEEM,
• 28:44
  WE NEVER HAVE TO LIVE IN FEAR.
• 28:45
  WE CAN TRUST THAT GOD IS ALWAYS AT WORK.
• 28:48
  HE IS IN CONTROL AND HE WILL NEVER LEAVE US.
• 28:52
  SO HOLD ON TO YOUR FAITH.
• 28:53
  STAND FIRM ON HIS PROMISES AND REMEMBER,
• 28:55
  NO DARKNESS WILL EVER OVERCOME THE LIGHT OF GOD.
• 28:59
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• 29:00
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• 29:04
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• 29:08
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• 29:11
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• 29:13
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• 29:25
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• 29:29
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• 29:31
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• 29:35
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