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Chuck in the Morning 8-26 H2: Gregg Bell, How does Dan Wilson save his job? · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Swing and a miss. Way up in the attic.
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  Speaker 2: What a night for George Kirby.
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  Speaker 1: He has sat down 13 in a row.
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  Speaker 3: Eight strikeouts, seven innings of dominance in Seattle. 7 o'clock
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  Speaker 3: hour here on this hump day. Chuck Powell and Anders
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  Speaker 3: Hurst with you here today. Ashley Ryan, we think, is
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  Speaker 3: back from vacation tomorrow, but we're not 100% sure.
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  Speaker 1: Number one, she might not be able to get back.
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  Speaker 3: Number two, Cal Raleigh may make sure that she doesn't return.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: There's a very good chance of that.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: He's hyper aware. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's the first thing on his list
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  Speaker 2: when he wakes up in the morning.
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  Speaker 3: He's on fire right now, and he doesn't want her
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  Speaker 3: ruining it. with her presence uh in the city like
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  Speaker 3: anywhere even mill creek.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah where's the cutoff where like her presence would
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  Speaker 2: ruin it could she come to the country.
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  Speaker 3: Oregon she can come as close as oregon oregon okay
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  Speaker 3: yeah got it yeah and that's it that makes sense
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  Speaker 3: yeah you can even go uh yeah you can go
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  Speaker 3: right there to portland if you want you can go
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  Speaker 3: to uh Tigard, if you want.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Which would put you really close.
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  Speaker 2: Right on the border.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. But that's it.
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  Speaker 2: That's it.
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  Speaker 1: As far as you can go.
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  Speaker 2: What about Canada?
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  Speaker 1: Cal says yes.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know why anyone would want to go to Canada,
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  Speaker 2: but you know.
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  Speaker 1: Anders hates Canada. I do. 7 o'clock hour.
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  Speaker 3: Greg Bell's going to join us here in about two minutes.
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  Speaker 3: Let's get to your headlines. They are brought to you
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  Speaker 3: by Frostbrood Coors Light. George Kirby was dominant last night.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe his best performance of the entire year. As he
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  Speaker 3: went seven and two-thirds innings, allowed just one run, struck
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  Speaker 3: out nine, looked like he was strong enough to go
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  Speaker 3: through eight. Dan Wilson did take the ball from him,
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  Speaker 3: closed out the eighth inning with Jose Ferrer. Dom Canzone
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  Speaker 3: had a big two-run single with the bases loaded to
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  Speaker 3: give the team a three-run lead, and Andres Munoz closed
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  Speaker 3: it out. So the M's win back-to-back games against the
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  Speaker 3: Philadelphia Phillies, back-to-back series against the Cubs and Phillies. They've
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  Speaker 3: gone 8-4 in this gauntlet of competition that was going
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  Speaker 3: to define their season one way or the other.
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  Speaker 1: And lo and behold, they.
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  Speaker 3: Are certainly smack dab in the middle of a race
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  Speaker 3: to win the American League West. They wake up this
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  Speaker 3: morning two and a half games back with 29 games
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  Speaker 3: to go. Three back in the wild card, but they've
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  Speaker 3: climbed three teams since, what, a week ago? In doing that,
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  Speaker 3: and so the 64-69 Mariners, terrible, gross record to have
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  Speaker 3: to repeat. But nonetheless, they seem to be playing their
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  Speaker 3: best ball right now. Let's see if they can continue
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  Speaker 3: it today. Brian Wu gets the start against Jesus Lizardo,
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  Speaker 3: all-star left-hander for the Philadelphia Phillies. First pitch is at 110.
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  Speaker 3: Mariners activated J.P. Crawford from the injury list. He started
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  Speaker 3: last night. participated in the victory. Brendan Donovan remains on
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  Speaker 3: the seven-day IL. Sounds like Donovan will return to third
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  Speaker 3: base and JP to shortstop whenever they're both available to
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  Speaker 3: the team. But yesterday, Leo Rivas was sent down to
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  Speaker 3: Tacoma and.
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  Speaker 1: Not Brock Rodden.
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  Speaker 3: Also, the team is considering a piggyback situation again, which
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  Speaker 3: Anders and I must.
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  Speaker 1: Discuss later on in the show.
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  Speaker 3: College football Huskies camp continues 11 days till the Apple Cup.
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  Speaker 3: Conferences yesterday banned the pros trying to make their return.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure there's another legal loophole or five that they'll
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  Speaker 3: have to fight. Before we know for sure what we
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  Speaker 3: should have always known, that you can't declare yourself professional,
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  Speaker 3: make a paycheck, and then return to the college ranks.
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  Speaker 3: So it sounds like all the conferences are on the
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  Speaker 3: same page on this, but we shall see where this goes.
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  Speaker 3: Sounders pulled off a trade yesterday. I promised I was
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  Speaker 3: going to hear Anders' thoughts on this later on in
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  Speaker 3: the show. Remind me. We've got to talk about this
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  Speaker 3: at some point. It sounds like they've got a really
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  Speaker 3: good player.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, yes. Very good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Very interesting move yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: And then, of course, from the National Football League, Seahawks
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  Speaker 3: Chiefs preseason finale on Friday in Kansas City. Joining us
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  Speaker 3: to discuss that and many other topics are Seahawks insider
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  Speaker 3: Greg Bell.
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  Speaker 6: As part of our continuing NFL coverage for the 12th man,
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  Speaker 6: this is 12th Man News, part of Chuck's daily visit.
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  Speaker 1: With our own Greg Bell.
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  Speaker 5: Morning, Greg. Morning. How you doing?
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing good.
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  Speaker 5: Doing good.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 3: I'll just blank canvas this on this Hard Knocks episode
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  Speaker 3: for you. What is the thing that stood out most
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  Speaker 3: to you about.
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  Speaker 1: It last night?
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  Speaker 4: The humanity of the sport and the brutality of the sport,
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  Speaker 4: which I try to convey in writing and in spoken word.
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  Speaker 4: And when listeners, fans see it on television and images, it.
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  Speaker 5: Might hit home even more.
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  Speaker 4: The Bud Clark broken ankle, the Jake Bobo knee injury.
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  Speaker 5: I understand why they showed it.
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  Speaker 4: My son was 23-year-old college soccer player's son was thinking
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  Speaker 4: that was unnecessary to show the actual breaking of his ankle.
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  Speaker 4: But I get why they showed it. The humanity of
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  Speaker 4: Bud Clark with his fiancé and his young son and
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  Speaker 4: toddler son on FaceTime as he's getting the air cast
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  Speaker 4: put on his leg. My son also thought they shouldn't
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  Speaker 4: have showed that. That's a little private.
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  Speaker 5: The Seahawks do get, I mentioned this, the Seahawks do get.
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  Speaker 4: To review it about 36 hours before the episode airs
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  Speaker 4: and what they're showing, if they have a chance to
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  Speaker 4: object to anything that was shown.
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  Speaker 5: So, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And Sam Darnold looked like an Amish farmer when he
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  Speaker 4: was trying on the cowboy hat in the store in Nashville.
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  Speaker 4: You've seen that with the quarterback. His black hat before
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  Speaker 4: he bent the bill.
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  Speaker 1: That's the second thing?
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  Speaker 3: You go from this heartwarming, you know, humanity thing to
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  Speaker 3: Sam Darnold looked Amish?
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  Speaker 1: That's your transition?
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  Speaker 5: Yes, it is. At 7.03 a.m., yes, it is.
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  Speaker 4: I did notice, and I noticed it when I was
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  Speaker 4: in Nashville on the edge of the field as we
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  Speaker 4: were going to air on my show Friday morning. is
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  Speaker 4: about the time that they were ending. It was a
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  Speaker 4: juxtaposition of two roles at one time, and I was
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  Speaker 4: watching as I was coming on the air Julian Love
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  Speaker 4: talking to Leonard Williams, and it was somewhat animated, and
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  Speaker 4: I was curious at the time from afar what they
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  Speaker 4: were talking about in that manner, and we heard the
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  Speaker 4: hard knocks, the microphones catching Love saying to Williams, we
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  Speaker 4: have to have more competitive stamina. I thought that was
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  Speaker 4: a really interesting way to say They've got to get
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  Speaker 4: mentally tougher. And he meant the second and third teams mainly.
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  Speaker 4: He said, Love told Williams, man, we started well, but
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  Speaker 4: we have to have competitive stamina to keep it up
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  Speaker 4: throughout that practice at 100 degrees and implying that they've
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  Speaker 4: got a ways to go to become a complete team.
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  Speaker 4: The impression I've gotten through watching training camp, watching these episodes,
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  Speaker 4: a little behind-the-scenes stuff, is that Mike McDonald's pretty good
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  Speaker 4: on his starters and what he's got. He's got 20
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  Speaker 4: and 22 starters coming back from a Super Bowl team.
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  Speaker 4: He knows what they're going to bring. And when the
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  Speaker 4: bell rings and it's time to play for real, he
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  Speaker 4: feels pretty confident they're going to respond in a very
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  Speaker 4: similar way to how they responded over 20 games in
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  Speaker 4: the Super Bowl last year. That's a main reason why
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  Speaker 4: they haven't played at all and why they have the
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  Speaker 4: joint practices, because the starters he thinks are good.
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  Speaker 5: We all know, though, that an NFL season, you need
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  Speaker 5: more than 22 starters.
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  Speaker 4: And there will be guys that we aren't even talking
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  Speaker 4: about who have much more prominent roles during the season
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  Speaker 4: because of injuries.
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  Speaker 5: That's where the Seahawks' concern is right now.
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  Speaker 4: The depth, the quality of depth, and as Julian Love articulated,
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  Speaker 4: the mental toughness of the depth.
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  Speaker 3: I'm glad you brought up Julian Love. He actually wrote
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  Speaker 3: his name down to be a talking point with you
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  Speaker 3: here today because... I mean, I know a football team
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  Speaker 3: has a lot of different leaders, and we've seen Leonard Williams'
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  Speaker 3: version of leadership, Ernest Jones' version of leadership, and the
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  Speaker 3: quarterback obviously has.
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  Speaker 1: To become a leader as well.
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  Speaker 3: But man, Julian Love just comes across as perfect in
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  Speaker 3: his leadership in this show. And I know that you've
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  Speaker 3: bragged about him in the past, but I don't think
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  Speaker 3: that until you visualize it and hear the way that
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  Speaker 3: he leads, it's hard to understand.
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  Speaker 1: I think I now understand it.
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  Speaker 3: That's a guy I think I'm naming the captain to
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  Speaker 3: every one of my teams. If I'm going to pick
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  Speaker 3: up basketball in the backyard, I want Julian Love to
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  Speaker 3: pick the teams. He's come across that well as a leader,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm sure that that does not surprise you.
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 4: No, he's very articulate. He speaks the coach's language and
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  Speaker 4: can talk with the coaches. He speaks the players' language
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  Speaker 4: and can talk to the players.
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  Speaker 5: He's one of the guys.
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  Speaker 4: And he understands the entire defense and the entire team.
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  Speaker 4: He really has become a disciple of Mike McDonald and
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  Speaker 4: Dirty and the defense and the coaches and is really
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  Speaker 4: fully bought in. They all are, but he's fully bought
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  Speaker 4: in and can articulate to the players in a relatable
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  Speaker 4: way what the coaches exactly want, what the purpose of
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  Speaker 4: this particular play is. He also not insignificantly the player
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  Speaker 4: representative for all NFLPA union issues. So those guys come
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  Speaker 4: to him for a lot. And if they have complaints
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  Speaker 4: or concerns or there's a union vote or there's an
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  Speaker 4: issue of player safety or any player concerned, he's their
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  Speaker 4: point guy. And a lot of them come to him
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  Speaker 4: from off the field stuff for their union-related things. So
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  Speaker 4: he's kind of the shop foreman, but he's also in
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  Speaker 4: the executive suite, if that makes sense in a working world,
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  Speaker 4: because he can wear both hats. And he's been around
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  Speaker 4: the league long enough, and he's got a cachet of
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  Speaker 4: being a Pro Bowl veteran and now a Super Bowl
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  Speaker 4: champion and playing in New York and going to Notre Dame.
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  Speaker 5: And Yes, and he's very relatable. It's easy for us
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  Speaker 5: to talk to him. As an aside, I was in
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  Speaker 5: the team.
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  Speaker 4: Hotel on Saturday, the Seahawks team hotel in Nashville, and
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  Speaker 4: we were talking with some Seahawks staffers, Bob Condotta, Brady Henderson,
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  Speaker 4: and I.
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  Speaker 5: And Julian Love was, I mean, many players.
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  Speaker 4: I'd say probably half the team was walking by. They
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  Speaker 4: were on their way to a meeting, and we happened
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  Speaker 4: to be right outside an elevator that was in their
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  Speaker 4: path to go to the team meeting in the Omni
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  Speaker 4: Hotel in Nashville. And Julian Love was the only one
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  Speaker 4: of those 40-some players that passed us in 10 minutes
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  Speaker 4: who stopped and chatted and talked and shook our hands.
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  Speaker 5: It's good to see you. Thanks for coming on the trip.
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  Speaker 5: And just little nuanced touches like that.
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  Speaker 4: I used to say this about Doug Baldwin. I've always
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  Speaker 4: teased him when I covered him that he could be
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  Speaker 4: a senator.
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  Speaker 5: So could Julian Love. And I can understand why you might.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for sure. He comes across that way without doubt.
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  Speaker 3: That's actually what I was thinking. This guy needs to
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  Speaker 3: run for office.
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  Speaker 1: I want to vote for him. I don't even know
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  Speaker 1: what his politics are.
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  Speaker 5: He'd be better than a lot of people. I'll just
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  Speaker 5: say that.
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  Speaker 4: He'll be better than a lot of people who have
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  Speaker 4: already been voted into some office.
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  Speaker 1: And that's who I really want to vote for when
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  Speaker 1: I vote is not necessarily issues. I want a leader.
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  Speaker 3: I want somebody that I want, that I have faith in,
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  Speaker 3: that I trust. And he just came across as like
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  Speaker 3: a perfect leader. And it did cross my mind that
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  Speaker 3: he should go into politics. We could use more people
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  Speaker 3: like that in our everyday lives. Greg Bell is with us.
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  Speaker 3: RCOX Insider. You can follow him at gbellseattle.com. on Twitter,
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  Speaker 3: and of course, thenewstribune.com. Well, let's look ahead to Friday
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  Speaker 3: a little bit. And of course, the Clark Bobo episode
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  Speaker 3: from Hard Knocks makes me want to ask this question.
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  Speaker 3: Do you even play the second stringers on Friday if
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  Speaker 3: we've got a depth concern at this point? I mean,
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  Speaker 3: is this just going to be four quarters of guys
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  Speaker 3: vying for possibly a final roster spot or to be
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  Speaker 3: kept on the practice squad, or to try to show
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  Speaker 3: off for other teams? Should Friday just be four quarters
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  Speaker 3: of third stringers as far as Mike McDonald's concerned?
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  Speaker 4: No, it shouldn't because they still have a third quarterback
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  Speaker 4: situation to figure out. If he can play, it still
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  Speaker 4: would behoove Trevon Diggs to get on the field. I
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  Speaker 4: think they consider him a quasi-starter, an accomplished veteran right now,
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  Speaker 4: a former All-Pro. And for the reason I mentioned at
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  Speaker 4: the top, They're not satisfied with how the depth is
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  Speaker 4: playing right now and how the depth is reacting to
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  Speaker 4: adverse situations on.
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  Speaker 5: The field, as Mike McDonald will talk about. So they
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  Speaker 5: need to get that. They need to feel better about that.
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  Speaker 4: The one position, the most important one in the sport,
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  Speaker 4: might be the one where the third teamer plays the
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  Speaker 4: whole game, and that's quarterback. Remember last year at Green Bay,
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  Speaker 4: Jalen Milrow played the entire game. Now that was the
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  Speaker 4: third preseason game, the final one. But that was also
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  Speaker 4: on the heels of a joint practice.
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  Speaker 5: This one's different.
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  Speaker 4: The joint practice came before the second preseason game, and
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  Speaker 4: there won't be one before the third. Andy Reid hates
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  Speaker 4: joint practices, won't do them like Pete Carroll, so that's
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  Speaker 4: why it was Tennessee and not Kansas City for McDonald's
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  Speaker 4: joint practice this year. I could see Jalen Millrow getting
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  Speaker 4: the entire game again in Kansas City on Friday. Mike McDonald,
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  Speaker 4: we'll talk to him tomorrow, and I don't know if
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  Speaker 4: he'll reveal that or not. Last year in Green Bay,
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  Speaker 4: he just came right out and told us that's what
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  Speaker 4: was going to happen ahead of time. But I could
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  Speaker 4: see the benefit of that because it will be the
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  Speaker 4: last time Jalen Milrow plays for the entire season, and
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  Speaker 4: they need to see if he's progressing. So far, I
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  Speaker 4: don't want to use the word the alarmed, but they
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  Speaker 4: aren't completely satisfied with how the first two games have
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  Speaker 4: gone for Jalen Milrow, to say the least.
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  Speaker 1: Do they still value him? I know it didn't work
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  Speaker 1: last year, but had a full year since he sort
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  Speaker 1: of failed in that package that they were going to
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  Speaker 1: run for him and uh does he still have that
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  Speaker 1: role on this team going forward i don't.
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  Speaker 4: Think as a practical matter no i think they value
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  Speaker 4: the fact that the nfl has see our game film
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  Speaker 4: that shows him doing that so they have to prepare
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  Speaker 4: for it but i haven't seen that at all during
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  Speaker 4: training camp practices in the office i haven't seen brian
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  Speaker 4: flurry insert him into the starting offense for anything last
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  Speaker 4: year at this time we were seeing clint kubiak doing
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  Speaker 4: that And then, sure enough, he did it in one
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  Speaker 4: play in each of the first three games. And then
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  Speaker 4: not at all for the rest of the year from him.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: You had an update on Eamon Worry yesterday, mind-sharing?
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  Speaker 5: Well, he's in cleats again for the second consecutive day.
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  Speaker 4: I know that doesn't sound like much, but when he
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  Speaker 4: had an ankle.
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  Speaker 5: Surgery the month before, every little incremental step counts. So
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  Speaker 5: he's in cleats.
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  Speaker 4: He's not with a jersey on. and the jerseys on
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  Speaker 4: him participating more in practice will be the next step.
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  Speaker 5: So where we are, 14 days. This is a Wednesday.
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  Speaker 5: So 14 days out from the opener.
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  Speaker 4: It's still, I would say, 50-50. I think he's going
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  Speaker 4: to play. That's been the Seahawks' expectation all along, week one,
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  Speaker 4: that he'll play week one. But I'd say right now
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  Speaker 4: it's about 50-50, and they sure would like to see
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  Speaker 4: him get on the field, not playing Friday night, of course,
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  Speaker 4: but just getting on the field and participating in the defense.
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  Speaker 3: Well, of course, believe headlines, Anthony Hankerson won't play in
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  Speaker 3: the SEC or the Big Ten next year. Are you
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  Speaker 3: feeling better about this story now that the two big
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  Speaker 3: conferences have said, absolutely not, this is not going to happen?
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  Speaker 4: No, I don't, because Lane Kiffin's still employed. And because this,
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  Speaker 4: college presidents need to take control of this. If this
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  Speaker 4: would end, if college presidents just told their coaches, if
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  Speaker 4: you do this, you're fired. If you bring on a coach,
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  Speaker 4: you're fired. We're just going to make it a line
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  Speaker 4: in the sand. We're just not doing it. Whatever the
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  Speaker 4: courts say, a court has no jurisdiction over internal policies
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  Speaker 4: of employers to employees. If a president told a coach,
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  Speaker 4: you're gone, if you do this, this would stop. And
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  Speaker 4: that goes for a lot of things, not just this
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: extra NFL player eligibility thing. The concern I have about
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: the SEC and the Big Ten is, isn't so much
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: a concern as is it's just facing reality. The Big
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: Ten and the SEC are taking a moral high ground
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: here on this issue because it's another example of them
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: breaking off from everybody else. And eventually the Big Ten
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: and the SEC is going to break off and become
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: their own super league, and that's the one that's going
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: to be the true national champion. That's the one that's
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: going to get all the ESPN dollars and television contracts, and.
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: Those will be the haves.
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: Whether it's in its current form or whether those two
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: leagues expand, There's going to be about 40 schools that
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: are the haves, and there are going to be everybody else,
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: 100-some schools that are the have-nots.
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: And the haves are.
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: Going to play by their own rules, and they're basically
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: going to secede from the NCAA. And this is another
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: log on that fire. And that fire is burning faster
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: than I think anyone realized. It may not be five
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: years from now before the SEC and Big Ten break off.
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: It could be. Hell, the way things change, it could
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: be by next season. Right.
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: A lot of people that I'm in the sport, I
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: think you know I teach intercollegiate athletic leadership at the
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: University of Washington. I deal a lot still in the
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: athletic department of a Big Ten school. And they and
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: many others around the country think that's where this is headed,
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: that the SEC and Big Ten are going to secede
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: and play by their own rules because they have all
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: the money and all the power and all the teams
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: and all the TV money. I will also say the
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: University of Washington is in a unique position. I see
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: it every day through academia and through sports. They're trying
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: to do both. They're trying to be with the haves
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: while they're also trying to serve a student athlete who
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: wants a meaningful degree. And those two worlds collide, and
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: it's tough to coexist.
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: It really is.
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: I will just tell you this for sure. It is
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: tough for a student athlete at the University of Washington,
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: particularly in football and basketball, to get a meaningful degree
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: that they came to school for with the current setup
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: that they have and the demands they have in a
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: Big Ten conference.
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: Really hard.
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: And somebody, and I'm not talking just in football and basketball,
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: that's in all sports, but what they're putting the kids
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: that truly are going to school for the reason they
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: went to college to begin with. And let's not forget, Chuck, 98%
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: of college student athletes go to school, use sports as
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: an opportunity to get a degree. And I know thousands
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: of kids who would never have gotten a college degree
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: if it wasn't for sports. And nobody's thinking about those kids.
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: They're thinking about the 2%. They're making all the money
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: on televisions on Saturday and play pro sports. That's 2%
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: of the population. The 98% are the ones that are
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: suffering here.
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: And it's hard.
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: It's hard for a kid who really did come to
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: school to get a degree to get one at the
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: University of Washington Athletic Department when they're trying to be
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: in the Big Ten. I know the Huskies wouldn't want
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: me to say that publicly.
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: That's a fact.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: And the rules and the demands that they're putting those
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: kids under and all these crazy things. of losing their spots.
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: And there are kids around the country that are losing
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: their scholarships and losing their money to go to school
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: because of these rules, because young adults that are coming
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: back from pros are taking their spots.
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: They thought they were gone.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: When Hankerson and these people come back, they're taking somebody's spots.
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: Because there are roster limits, and that's something I think
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: people are overlooking.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, the sad reality is that almost all of
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: those scholarships for all those other sports are going to
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: go away.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: That's the sad reality.
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: They're already starting to, yeah. People are losing them.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: All right, Greg, can you give me 20 seconds for
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: what's on at 10 o'clock today?
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we're going to talk more about Hard Knocks.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: We'll talk about what I saw at practice yesterday. We'll
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: reiterate again that no starters are playing Friday.
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: And Farhan Laji, TSN.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: NFL guy from Canada, who just came back from Chiefs camp,
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: is going to tell us about what he saw with
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: Kenneth Walker and the Chiefs at 11 o'clock.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: All right. Sounds great.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Thank you, sir.
• 20:49
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• 20:52
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• 21:10
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• 21:14
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• 21:17
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• 21:21
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• 21:26
  Speaker 3: as we see a team starting to play better right now,
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: does anything change on that front? In other words, how
• 21:32
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• 22:04
  Speaker 3: And I was asked last week, This is the question
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: I was actually asked, Anders, and this was by Dick Fane.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: He said, should I even be rooting for them to
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: make the playoffs because Dick's seen enough of Dan Wilson
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: and doesn't want him back as manager next year? So
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: I guess the fear laced in that question was, if
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: you make the playoffs, then Dan will retain his job.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: And so it sounds to me like Dick thinks it's
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: more important to get rid of Dan than to actually
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: win the American League West this year. And I think
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: that's coming from somebody that thinks that even if you
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: do get into the playoffs, you're not winning a World
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: Series with this team. So I think that's where it's
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: coming from. If I've misrepresented that, Dick will.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Tell me later.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: I think it's fair. There's a lot of sentiment with that.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Well, I think it's pretty obvious, though, the response to that.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: Of course you make the playoffs. Make the playoffs. Punch
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: the ticket. Get into the dance. This is not the
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: NBA where eight seeds don't have a chance. This is
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: get into the dance. You never know what could happen.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: You have pitching. What do we hear about the playoffs
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: every year? Pitching wins in the playoffs. They also say
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: defense wins when we don't really have the defense. But
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: maybe that's gotten better a little bit. But yeah, to me,
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: it is absolutely. I'm trying to make the playoffs no
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: matter how that affects Dan Wilson's occupation. And as many
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: of you know, if some of you don't, I called
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: for Dan's job coming out of the all-star break. So
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: I have wanted to replace the manager. And yet that
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: hasn't stopped me from hoping that Dan Wilson guides us
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: to the world series this year. And so, certainly, I
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: want him to get into the playoffs. And then let's
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: see what happens. And there is a world where... There's
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: two different worlds that could take place here. Number one
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: is that Dan Wilson takes you all the way to
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: the American League Championship Series or the World Series. And
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: in that case, he should keep his job. I mean,
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: if you've gone back-to-back ALCSs in an organization that has...
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: only been to that level once before in its history.
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: The, the narrative changes, even though I still won't think
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: that he's a good day-to-day manager, right? There certainly is
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: a way that Dan Wilson keeps his job, even in
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: my head and have it be deserved and.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Have it be deserved. He makes it to the American
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: league championship series two years in a row.
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: You keep him. If he makes it to the World Series,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: you absolutely keep him. If he wins the World Series,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: he probably gets a contract for life.
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: In this town with this organization. There is also another
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: world is that you do get to the playoffs and
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: you get bounced prematurely and you fall short of where
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: you were a year ago and you fall short of
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: your stated expectations for this team. And you still let
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: Dan Wilson go at the end of the year, even
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: though he did rally the team, or at least played
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: a hand in rallying the team, theoretically gets you to
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: the playoffs by winning the American League West this year.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: But this organization's stated goal was to win the World
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: Series this year. Not be five games under. 500, On
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: August 26th and feel like we're finally playing good baseball
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: and maybe we can pull this off.
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: So if you make the playoffs, that wasn't the goal.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: So you would then have to, in my estimation, Anders,
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: go as deep as you went a year ago. And
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: if you don't, then I still think there's an argument.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: I mean, Bob Nightingale has reported that Dan Wilson has
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: to make the playoffs or he's losing his job. That's
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: the report from Bob Nightingale. Well, I think there's also
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: a world where Dan Wilson makes the playoffs and still
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: loses his job this offseason because somebody's got to answer
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: for why this season was so damn difficult. And if
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: the front office isn't going to be blamed for it,
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: and you clearly aren't going to shove off Cal Raleigh,
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: Julio Rodriguez, and our pitchers on a barge somewhere, sorry, fuck,
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: you're not going to.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: Do that, right?
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: Then who's going to shoulder the blame for such a
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: frustrating disappointing season like we've had whether you make the
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: playoffs or not so i think those are the two
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: worlds that we're living in yes dan has a chance
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: to save his job but it better be as far
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: as you went a year ago or further And I
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: think that he still could guide this team or help
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: guide this team into the playoffs. And still, the end
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: result at the end of the year, the conversation in
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: the boardroom is, do we have the right guy? Because
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: we feel like we grossly underachieved this season, even though
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: we made the playoffs by winning a terrible American League.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: West this year.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: And you would still arrive at the conclusion that he's
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: got to go. So those are my two scenarios for
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: the rest of the year.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Number one, I agree with you. Obviously, if he doesn't
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: make the playoffs, he should be gone. And I agree
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: with you that if it were up to me and
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: he didn't make it to the ALCS, I would still
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: really heavily consider moving on, probably move on anyway. But
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: I don't think the Mariners will.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: You don't think so?
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: I don't think they will. I think they will rely on.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: What they saw in 2025 from him, even though you
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: and I have talked about this before, even he wasn't
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: that great of a manager that year. You just had
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: amazing individual performances.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: I gave him a C minus at the end of
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: last year. So this is not coming out of.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: The blue for me.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: No, it's not.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: And I agree with you.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: I was with you.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: And obviously we all know what happened in game seven
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: and where you put blame on that, but they, they
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: will rely on, Hey, we made it farther than we
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: ever have in our history with this guy. And there
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: was a lot of underachieving players this year that would
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: consider that would take the shouldering of the blame that
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: you were talking about earlier, besides the third string hitting coach, obviously,
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: that would help just describe why the Mariners were as
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: grossly underachieving as they did this year.
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: So I.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: I agree with you i i think the baseline should
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: be where you go last year i've always said like
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: you go you go through these windows where you take
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: the next step each year right first it's being 500
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: then it's making the playoffs then it's winning your division
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: then it's going to the alcs then it's going to
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: the world series then it's winning the world series right
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: You see these teams make these steps like the Astros
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: did multiple times, even after they won the first one
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: in 2017. So that's where I think the Mariners need
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: to go. They need to do something this year that
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: they didn't do last year. And at the very least,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: go as far as they did last year for Dan
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Wilson to keep his job.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Winning a division with an 82-80 record and getting bounced
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: from the playoffs is not some great achievement when you
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: have declared to the world, to a person, that the
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: goal is the world series, not just to get there,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: to win the world series and nothing else will satisfy.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: So that's still even, even with making the playoffs is
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: still a gross underachievement for where you set the bar
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: for your organ, for your organization.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: And, Look, I realize the affinity for the 90s team
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: that saved the team and the affinity for Dan Wilson,
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: and I hope that he is always cherished and loved
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: in this town, no matter what I've said critical about
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: his managerial abilities. He's a great mariner and will always
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: forever live as a great mariner. And he seems like
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: a much better person than I am. So there's a
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: lot of merit for that. But does he get the
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: most out of his team? That's the only thing we
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: can judge a manager by in modern-day baseball. Because they
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: really don't do much X's and O's anymore. So that's
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: really what we have to judge them by. And obviously
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: this team, even if they make the playoffs, has underachieved
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: this season.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: So I think that that's pretty clear to me. I mean,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: I don't think you tell him that if you're Jerry
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: DiPoto or Justin Hollander. I think you tell them that,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: but those are the marching orders. And here's one thing
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: that does not get brought up. This organization just loves
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: that team from the 90s and they just overdo it. No, no, no.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: And John Stanton will never fire... Well, John Stanton's pretty
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: damn loyal to Jerry DiPoto and Justin Hollander, too, I think.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Can we all agree on that?
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: Oh, yes.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: That's been pretty evident.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: And I think when Jerry says something, John's all ears
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: and trusts a lot of Jerry's vision. And so Jerry
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: and Justin, more than... I promise you, John might love
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: the 90s. Jerry and Justin, all they give an F
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: about is winning the World Series. with this team and
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: not looking like whoever they handed their team off to
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: that they thought was going to win the World Series
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: didn't do it justice. They don't have any affinity for
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: Dan Wilson bobbleheads. Maybe John does, but those two don't.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: All they're carried about, we think we gave you a
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: World Series team. We blabbered on about it all offseason,
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: all spring training. And we had to deal with that season?
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: So believe me, they're going to carry a lot of
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: weight in this conversation, probably a lot more so than
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: whether or not we've disappointed someone from the 95 team.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So let's keep that into consideration as well. All right,
• 33:03
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• 33:05
  Speaker 3: here today, and I'm going way off the rails on
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Now, hear me out on this.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: Because I don't know if anybody listening right now is like,
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: as soon as they get in the car, as soon
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: as they get home or firing islands in the stream
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: up on their record player or putting nine to five
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: on their CD player. I don't know if anybody listening,
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: like your favorite artist is Dolly Parton.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it is.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: But in terms of accomplished people in the music industry that...
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: did it with savvy and kindness and never one without
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: the other. When she was being kind, she was being
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: savvy about it. And when she was being savvy, there
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: was a layer of kindness to it. I don't know
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: if anybody has accomplished.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: More and did more in the music industry than what
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: she did individually. I am a.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: Huge fan of Dolly Parton, who left us yesterday, and
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: not necessarily of her music.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: I do have an album.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: I love Jolene. If you've never heard Code of Many Colors,
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: go ahead and fire that up right now and watch
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: the waterworks start. Yeah, it's a hell of a song,
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: and obviously she had a hell of a career, but
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: her story, I mean, there are biopics or biopics, depends
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: on how you want to I think there's a modern
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: way that now.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: People say that word. Sure. But they've made tons of
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: them recently.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: And nobody's got as interesting a story as Dolly Parton.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Like Johnny Cash has a great one.
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: He does.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: Walk the Line's a great movie.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: Not a tenth as interesting as Dolly Parton's backstory. Ray Charles,
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: that's a great story right there. He's one of my
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: favorites of all time. half as interesting as Dolly Parton's
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: story to greatness. I mean, think about somebody that was
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: so dirt poor that by the time she was six
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: years old, six years old, she was the breadwinner. She
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: walked down to the radio station and sang for them,
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: ended up getting a job at the radio station at
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  Speaker 3: age six. And that was the money that supported her family.
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  Speaker 3: That's how poor they were in Tennessee. And then from
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  Speaker 3: that point forward, with those humble beginnings, I mean, trust me,
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  Speaker 3: I'm from a small town. It is really hard to
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  Speaker 3: understand how the big city works when you're from a
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  Speaker 3: small town.
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  Speaker 1: You get caught off guard. I still to this day
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: get caught off guard.
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  Speaker 5: Really?
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  Speaker 3: That's how that works? I didn't realize I had to
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: be that ruthless. Like, There is a naivete that you
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: have to carry. It's a burden that you carry when
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  Speaker 3: you're from a small town where nobody understands the big
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  Speaker 3: city and the big world. And she's from about the
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: smallest town that you could imagine. And then she dove
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: headlong into the big city and into the big world.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: And at a time where women were just starting to
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  Speaker 3: get rights. I mean, you know how many ass pinches
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: and off-colored comments and harassments and jerks coming on to
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: her that she had to deal with. And it sounds
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: like every single time she handled it with aplomb, either
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: with class or dignity or just outfoxing the other person.
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  Speaker 3: And then she managed to make her way into an icon,
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  Speaker 3: a music icon. Some people believe she is the greatest
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  Speaker 3: business person that has ever been in the music industry.
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  Speaker 3: Vince Gill says she's the best songwriter in the history
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  Speaker 3: of country music. He didn't go as far as all music,
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: but he says she's the greatest songwriter he's ever known.
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  Speaker 3: She obviously was a tremendous performer. She was charming to
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  Speaker 3: beat the band, and she remained classy until her dying day.
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  Speaker 3: You don't meet anybody that has a bad word to
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: say about the ladies. And so I would just like
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  Speaker 3: tip of the cap today. I know it's a sports show,
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  Speaker 3: but a true icon and somebody that's in the conversation,
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  Speaker 3: the goat conversation for everything that she accomplished under such
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: incredible adversity needs to be acknowledged on every talk show
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: in America today.
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  Speaker 1: And it doesn't.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So, and I just wanted to take some time and
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: reckless at breakfast to share my admiration for for Dolly Parton.
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  Speaker 3: And you better believe when the martini start to flow
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  Speaker 3: on martini night this Saturday, who we're leading with on
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  Speaker 3: the rail record player, it's going to be my one
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  Speaker 3: Dolly Parton album.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, I, I can't speak any more than you have
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  Speaker 2: about her. She was a little before my time, but
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  Speaker 2: I can, I'm going to say she's American icon. It's,
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  Speaker 2: it's about as American icon as you can get. And, uh, um,
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate everything she did for, you know, for women
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  Speaker 2: and for the music industry as well. And, uh, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: she will be missed.
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  Speaker 1: And just think about her iconic song, I Will Always
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  Speaker 1: Love You.
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  Speaker 3: I was going to say, which one? Well, that's the
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: one she's most known for. It's the one Whitney Houston covered.
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  Speaker 3: But that alone, she wrote that in order to charm
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  Speaker 3: the boss that wouldn't let her out of her contract
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  Speaker 3: so she could become a solo artist. She was on
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: his show. He gave her her first big break. And
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: he wouldn't let her go because he knew she was
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: the real talent on the show. And he, she's the
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: reason that people tuned into a show. She wrote that
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  Speaker 3: to her boss. That wasn't to like a boyfriend or
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: a husband or to her boss to say, I love
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  Speaker 3: you and everything you've done for me, but you've got
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: to let me go. And he did cried all over
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  Speaker 3: the place and said, and he, she won him over.
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  Speaker 1: She broke his heart.
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  Speaker 3: And healed it all at the same time by writing
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  Speaker 3: that song like in the next room and singing it
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: to him. So it's an incredible story and somebody needs
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: to make a movie out of it because it might
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: be the best biopic or biopic uh that's out there
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: yet because i think she's got the most interesting story
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: to tell arguably in music history all right coming up
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