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#220 - Nick Fuentes Prefers Boca Over Dearborn?! Unpacking the Wild PBD Podcast Moment · Brandon Fogal Evolution

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All right, so we are going to be talking about Nick Fuentes,
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and I cannot believe I actually missed this when he was on Patrick Bette David's
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podcast back in September, and it was towards the tail end of the podcast that this got brought up.
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I went back and rewatched it, and then I ran across it.
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I don't know if I finished it or something like that because this flew underneath
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the radar for me when it got brought up about Patrick's asked Nick Fuentes,
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so where would you rather live?
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Boca Raton, where it's heavily populated with Jewish people,
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or in Dearborn, Michigan,
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Answer might surprise you what Nick Fuentes said, but we're also going to talk
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about just a couple of things before we get into that, because it's the new year, it's 2026.
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And as you can see, sparks are already flying.
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The U.S. has, they invaded Venezuela. We knew this was coming.
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Eventually, we just didn't know when.
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And this morning we went in there and we captured Maduro and his wife,
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and they are being brought to the United States to face our justice system.
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I think that's very interesting. I stand up completely with the United States
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in Donald Trump's decision.
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I think it's a good decision. I think what shocked everyone was that he says
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that the U.S. is going to run Venezuela for a certain amount of time.
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And what all that means, as that is fully fleshed out, we shall see.
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There's a couple other things in the news that I just wanted to just bring up.
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I know people have talked about, but the Somali daycare that is,
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the whole Somali fraud situation that has happened, I did a brief video on it as well.
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But so many other things have come out and uh i thought
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it was a pretty interesting and funny that this one of
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the daycares that hasn't even been investigated yet they're already
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thinking ahead of time and they someone broke in i don't i i'm not thinking
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it's real legit i think they probably staged it we shall find out but like they
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somebody broke in and took all the records documents everything about their
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history where all the money's going their employees and all and it somehow has
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vanished. So they're getting ahead of it.
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It's pretty funny. Pretty funny if you really think about it.
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And then also, I also, I don't know if you've seen this person.
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This is a woman that is a, it's been disclosed where she, who she is,
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where she's at and all that and what she's doing.
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But she said something pretty interesting. I want to look at this video,
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what she said about Elon Musk.
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And I'll just read it. First of all, it says, Breaking Somali TikToker threatens Elon Musk's life.
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I wouldn't worry too much about him. He about to die.
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And then it says, Protect Elon Musk at all costs.
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Yes. Amen. Protect Elon Musk at all costs.
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What was she thinking? What was she thinking? Let's take a look at this.
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Elon Musk. I don't know if Elon Musk was going to die.
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Some people say, like, this is fake. I'm like, actually. Oh,
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son. Oh, for? Well, let's look at.
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I wouldn't worry too much about this one,
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I bet he's true. I wouldn't worry too much about him.
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He about to die. You could clearly hear saying Elon Musk, he about to die.
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She's completely backtracked on this and saying she's fearing for her life.
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Most people found out about it was because Elon Musk tweeted over it.
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Then it is war. And then after that, the next day she came out with her whole,
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you misunderstood me. You misunderstood me.
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All right, let's dive into the Nick Fuentes.
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And there are a couple of different things I wanted to highlight on this.
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This is when he brings up what Nick Flint has said in towards the tail end of
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this video, this podcast, because I'm still trying to understand Nick and I've
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been really diving into him and learning more about him since this past summer.
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This is where I came to not learn who he was because I briefly knew his name,
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but more about him. And I am very interested in him.
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He's a fascinating person. He's going to be a person that is going to steer
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the direction that the United States is going to go like it or Lovett, he is.
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And towards the end of this, we're going to get in Joel Webin.
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He is doing a full series that he's dripping out little by little.
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It's a 10 part series of who is Nick Fuentes. And you should check that out on his channel.
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We'll briefly go over that at the end, which is very interesting.
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But when it gets brought up about Israel and about Jewish people,
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he has a lot to say, obviously, about that.
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But then Patrick says, so what's your beef? If you could shoes,
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where would you rather live?
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And that's going to be towards the end of this. Would you rather live in a heavily
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populated Jewish area or would you rather go into Dearborn, Michigan,
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where it's heavily populated Muslims?
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This is, and I'm going to, I want to point out some contradicting like thoughts
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that I'm seeing in Nick's mind.
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I don't know if he's fully thought it out and I'm not a perfect person.
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I don't, I, I, I have contradictions sometimes in my own mind and the things
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that don't line up and I have to say it out loud to almost hear how stupid I sound.
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And then I can maybe, well, that was kind of idiotic. I might need to rethink what I'm saying.
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There's something in here that I see as a contradiction, but let's see if you can catch it.
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You know, when you see Jewish people working together. I don't think there's
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anything wrong with that inherently.
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And I agree with you. It's like a superpower. It's actually admirable in some
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ways. They look out for each other.
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But if society becomes, American society in particular, a place where every
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group is ganging up, well, we're the whites, we're the blacks,
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we're the Jews, we're the... Then I think what America is starts to come apart.
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And it turns into kind of like a bit of a politicized race war.
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And I think that you either have to have a society where everybody gets to play
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by those rules and everybody could be pro what they are, or everybody is assimilated
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and we're all Americans. And that's right there.
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So, and this is where I'm seeing like the disconnect, the difference.
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Do you want this? Cause he is very big on identity politics,
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identitarianism, just who people are whites, blacks, Hispanics,
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all that, that you really hone in on that.
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You own it. And we should be fighting for our specific identity, our group.
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And he says that the Jewish people, they're not assimilating.
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They're not assimilating. They're different.
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They're other, and they're not assimilating to our way of life,
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which seems to be what you're going to see is a contradiction when he brings
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up the melting pot, when he says that it's a Jewish idea that has been foisted
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upon us. So I'm trying to really wrap my head around this.
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Is it, do we want everyone to assimilate in America?
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Do we want everybody to forget everything, their heritage of where they're from,
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what they came from, and they're solely American and they can't have anything
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like any diversity as well? We all have to be uniform and...
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Look the exact same, be the exact same? Or is, I'm trying to really understand
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this because I'm seeing somewhat of a contradiction in what he's saying,
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because when he points out, he puts Israel,
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Jewish people on a pedestal and saying they can't do what everyone else can
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do, including white people.
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I'd say it's detrimental is that if Jewish people are Jewish first.
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Not of, by, and for America, but of, by, and for the Jewish nation,
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this is problematic when they're in positions of power, because are they looking
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out for all of us or are they looking out for themselves first.
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And when you look at the Israel policy, that's where people start to say,
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I think you're looking out for yourselves first. I think you're biased.
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This is where I would make the equivocation. And I have not heard anyone say this.
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I have not heard, and I'm going to say it out loud, so I don't know if it's
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going to sound stupid, but I don't think it is. I don't know if I'm the only
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one that has come up with this.
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The same thing that he's doing with Israel and with Jewish people,
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I would say that he is the exact same thing, but the opposite side of the spectrum,
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as a Roman Catholic, as a Roman Catholic, because he is seeing everything through
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that lens, and he is strictly adhered to Roman Catholicism, not just Christianity,
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not just the big tent umbrella of Christianity, of people who call on the name
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of Christ and are Christians that believe in Jesus, but specifically,
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strictly Roman Catholic.
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I would say it's the exact same thing that Jewish people, that Israel is doing,
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that they have a tie to Israel and to their Jewish nation, to their way of life
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and who they are specifically,
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that they are very, very exclusive.
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And nobody is pointing this out.
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And I hear maybe brief little eclipse of someone calling out,
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I don't know if Destiny did it one time, asked him the same thing,
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and then he just double down.
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He's like, because our religion is the right one.
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Israel can do whatever they're doing, but it's because our religion is the right one that.
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I can criticize them, but I can own ours because we're right.
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They're wrong. Maybe, maybe.
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And unfortunately, you're using the public purse and American soldiers to fight
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your own battles. And that's the problem.
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It's not, I don't have hatred for them. I don't have a problem with them in
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themselves or even what they do. It's just that with our system, that doesn't work.
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I go back and forth because I love hearing him speak.
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I love his ideas, but at the same time, I certainly disagree with him.
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And the more I hear him, the more I disagree with him. but he owns what he believes in.
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He owns what he says and he says it with conviction and with comedy and he's very entertaining.
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Everybody is being very heavily influenced by this man.
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So I think if you're not talking about him or if you're not listening to him,
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you're missing out on a whole lot.
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We're going to go a little bit further on this previous video before I bounce to the next one.
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Say to that as well, when, you know, if they use the American soldiers in their
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advantage and all that other stuff, okay, who negotiated that deal?
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Some president negotiated that deal. Someone said yes to it, right?
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When they say, well, let me tell you, you know, that person is afraid to platform
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this guy because he's afraid his donors are going to go and do this.
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And it's, it's Israel's fault. No, it's not. It's the guy who runs the,
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it's not Israel. We have welcomed Israel in, and this is the difference. This is the difference.
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I think we should be welcoming Israel in, because Nick is heavily tied to Roman
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Catholicism. He is missing the whole point.
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Christians, and I will say this with conviction, and I'm serious about this,
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many Christians are missing the point on Israel.
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And because we've just been, we've been drowned in this idea that the church
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has replaced Israel and it's the,
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the, and Roman Catholicism is the perfect premier exemplar of this,
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of this ideology that they have replaced.
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They have, they're, they have taken over that spot of Israel and Nick is owning it.
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And I think a lot of Christians are owning it. We just think we're, we're here.
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The Jews are gone. There are a thing of the past where we're forgetting about
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them. the Gentiles rule all, but the Gentiles don't rule all.
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This is the times of the Gentiles. That's the whole point of the New Testament.
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When Jesus came, the Jews rejected their Messiah.
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Jesus came to the Jews first, and then he comes to everyone else.
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And this is the times. It's not going to last forever.
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God is not going to forget his covenantal people. So it's like, I'm all American first.
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I agree with America first 100%.
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But we're not going to be blessed as a nation if we don't bless the nation that is blessed by God.
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Because whether they've rejected the Messiah or not, which was a heinous,
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huge sin, which they did, and they're suffering for it, and they're in delusion
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for it, they're messed up,
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they are blinded to who the Messiah is, they don't know it, they're still waiting
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on some Messiah, and they're rejecting their Messiah for 2,000 years.
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But just to us, they're like forgetting and say that, oh, what they've done
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is irredeemable, they can't be brought back. God is going to bring them back.
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They are the conclusion of the matter.
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And it's like, if we forget that, if we just buy into this whole lying mindset
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that Roman Catholicism or any specific church is the replacement of God's covenantal
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people, you're missing it. You're missing the mark.
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Patrick Beck David, ask him specifically, okay, because I'm seeing mixed signals
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from Nick because, and this goes in with Catholicism, because they're welcoming
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all these other religions out there,
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Islam and Hinduism and all that, you know, giving them their own,
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I, I, this is what I've heard their own little prayer chambers in like their holy areas or whatever.
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This is what I'm, because they're trying to be a melting pot for that.
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So I, I, I'm seeing them go more towards Muslim and I'm seeing a difference.
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I'm, I'm seeing differences between Nick and pure Catholicism.
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And this is where it really just stands out to me a lot because I'm thinking
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there's so much infighting between Roman Catholics, which I mean,
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there's there's infighting between all Christians.
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But I'm not seeing like, is Nick a pure Catholic or not? I don't know.
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I don't know if he is or not.
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If he's standing on everything, what the church believes and says or whatever,
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or if he's going outside the boundaries of what the church has laid out for them. I don't know.
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But I'm seeing, because I'm seeing him throw out Israel or target Israel, welcome Muslims.
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But at the same time, he's going to be asked the question, would you rather
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live amongst Jewish people or in a heavily populated Muslim area?
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And he chooses Israel. He chooses Israel. I mean, look, if we,
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you said Israel over Muslims, right?
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Which of the two do you think has been a bigger net positive to America?
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Oh, it has to be Israel. Absolutely. Okay. So a part about that part...
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But, well, in terms of... I wouldn't say net positive.
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I would say in terms of raw, maybe like gross positive.
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Because they've had a lot of contributions culturally and even,
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you know, in terms of art, literature, music, also scientifically.
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But it's difficult to say on that because I also think that there's quite a
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bit of a detriment. I think that the melting pot comes from the Jewish community.
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What do you mean by that? The idea of the melting pot, that comes from a Jewish
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playwright, you know, because Jewish people come to America and like all immigrants,
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they say, well, we want America to be more welcoming.
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So they start to spin up. So a second ago, he said, and this is pretty close
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in the podcast, and it's not too far away in the distance in the podcast itself.
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He says that Israel people are not assimilating into America.
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They're not becoming like the Italian immigrants like he is or his family heritage
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that came over and they assimilated and they became American,
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full flesh American. and he considers himself an American, not an Italian American.
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But then he brings up, so it's like they're not assimilating,
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but then also a melting pot is bad.
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Is there equivalency between melting pot and assimilation?
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And I'm really asking this because I'm not understanding the difference because
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I'm seeing him talk out of both sides of his mouth.
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Like, which do you want it to be? What do you want it to be?
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Do you want it to be Jewish people to forget being Jews and forget about Israel?
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Forget about their homeland, their country of origin, because it's not like
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Nick is forgetting about Italy, you know, and I don't know my full history, my full family history.
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I want to learn more about it, but like exactly where I came from,
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it's not like we have to throw all
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of that away, you know, it's so in this melting pot, do we want it or not?
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He'd like, he throws shame on it and casts aspersion on it when it gets brought
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up like, oh, that was just something that Jews foisted upon us.
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They threw on us this melting pot so that they can kind of just blend in.
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You know, they don't, they're not, they're not just, they don't stand out and
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everyone's tolerant of everybody.
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I'm seeing contradictions because I'm trying to understand really what his mindset.
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I like what he's doing. I like his tactics.
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I like his strategy, but I don't understand it. I don't particularly agree with
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his conclusion and logical outcome of what he is wanting.
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And I disagree with the foundation as well of Nick Quintus, where he's standing
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on, because it is this replacement theology.
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The church has replaced Israel, which is completely unbiblical.
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It is unbiblical. It's not.
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It's not. It's not. These ideas that, well, America was never this country of
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white Christians. It's always been a melting pot for all immigrants.
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They want the country to be more open because that makes it more comfortable for them.
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It makes it more tolerant for them. But this has also made us more open and
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tolerant for Muslims, for example. We're bringing, I mean, who's been the biggest
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driver of like the Hart Seller 65 Immigration Act? It was like the SPLC,
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which was run by Jewish lawyers.
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And so they're major drivers of mass migration. They're also major drivers of
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the pro-Israel politics, like the Iraq war. There was many Jewish journalists and and.
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So maybe not. He's saying maybe not an overall net positive because Jews come
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in here into America and they're kind of the neck.
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You know, the president is the head or whatever. The government is the head,
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but they're kind of the neck.
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They're turning it whichever way they want and to benefit Israel.
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And that's where I disagree. Like, I know it's I'm not.
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This is not the popular opinion at the time. The wind of politics right now
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is not to support Israel.
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You know, any popular name out there is not, any cool name out there is not
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supporting Israel because we can see that they're doing, at times they're doing
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things that appear bad to us or that we're being fed that is bad to us.
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I don't necessarily agree that it is. I think that we are being propagandized
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by people that just hate them and they want to make them in the worst light possible.
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Saying that they are committing a genocide or a holocaust over there,
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which I think it's popular and it's the cool thing to say.
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Theo Vaughn says it, you know, and certain people say it just to,
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you know, cast them aside and just discount them.
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But, like, really, what is actually happening? Boots on the ground.
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Actually there. They are the more—you would feel safer in Israel than you would
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in Gaza or in Palestine. Because—.
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We understand that if you go to Israel, you're protected. It is a democracy
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there. It's a safe land, a safe haven.
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But I want to continue a little bit further because he's going to bring up where he would rather stay.
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And advocates. Sure. So the point being is like when you calculate on net,
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and I agree with you, like I think there are a lot of people that are critical
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of Israel that are reluctant to acknowledge the good the Jews do.
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And I think the Jews are, they're brilliant. Many of them are brilliant.
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So what I'm saying net positive, I'm talking jobs, economy.
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How often you hear about crime, what they do. Like if you have a choice between
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living in a city in Minnesota, Dearborn, and living in, I don't know what's
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the biggest city. What's the city? The Boca Raton, let's just say, right?
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If you have a choice between raising your family between Dearborn and Boca Raton, what do you choose?
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Boca Raton. Okay, so the point is like they go to a place. And by the way,
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to me, if that was Muslims, guess what? I would say Muslims.
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But statistically, wherever they live, it's safer.
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Things are nicer. Things get better. I agree. And that is one part to measure
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where they're at. Now, without hesitation, he says Boca Raton.
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Without hesitation, he brings up and he's asked that point blank,
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where would you rather stay?
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Boca Raton. Without question, without hesitation, because he understands that
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the Jewish, there is a connection between Christianity and Jewish people and
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Judaism that there is not with Muslims. There is not.
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Christianity is the fulfillment of.
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Of the Jewish lifestyle and belief. It's what it all comes into.
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It finds its finalization in Christianity.
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The Messiah has come. We're probably running Christianity a little bit kind
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of crazy at the wheel at times. And we're probably causing Jewish people to like, what?
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If our Messiah came, would it really look like that?
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Would it really go in that direction? Would it really do that?
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And I think there was a destabilizing force that happened at the beginning of
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the early centuries of the church because we cast out everybody that was Jewish.
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We said, if you're eating pork, then you're still going back into Judaism.
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And they would try to make everyone a Gentile blob, homogenize everyone to be Gentiles.
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Forget all that Jewish stuff, all those Jewish things that you do,
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if you want to be in the new era, the new covenant, which the new covenant itself
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is, it's given to the Jews.
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And it's like, we're running it. We're riding this train.
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But the new covenant itself was promised to Israel.
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It's made with the, what does it say exactly in Ezekiel?
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It says, I will make a new covenant with them, with the house of Israel, with the house of Judah.
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That's who it's made with. It's not made to, you know, 21st century Gentile
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Christians or whatever.
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We get to join a part of it because we are absorbed. We are in Christ.
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We are in the Messiah. We are grafted in.
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And that's where there's this disconnect that is happening.
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And I see it completely fully fleshed out because Nick is running with it because
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he's coming from that Roman Catholicism perspective, which I'm not going to
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say Roman Catholicism is completely wrong at all. I don't think any Protestant like.
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Flavor of Christianity has got it all completely right. And they're perfect.
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And they're doing exactly what Jesus would have them be doing.
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And they're believing exactly what Jesus would have them be doing.
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I think all these things are just going to melt away once Jesus returns,
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once Jesus comes back and sets everything in order.
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These things that we're just kicking each other and punching each other about
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and just slapping each other in the face.
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You're doing the Lord's Supper wrong. You're doing baptism wrong.
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You're doing church governance wrong.
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You got to be a part of this building, this group, as opposed to that one.
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I think all that is just going to melt away when Jesus returns.
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But Nick is, he is the exact opposite of the Jewish people because he's running
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with the Roman Catholic view and there's opposition that's happening.
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There's disconnect that's happening because it's trying to take their birthright.
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It's trying to take and say that you have it and almost getting upset at that
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group because they're the legitimate heirs of it.
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They are the legitimate heirs of it. And I think we can't, we cannot forget that.
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And I think a lot of Christianity has forgotten that and we're rolling and doing
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things that we wanted to be doing, but we're probably not doing it the best way possible.
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I just wanted to bring that up because I'm seeing a disconnect because him just
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saying that without hesitation, in Boca Raton.
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Obviously, obviously, it's because people see an easy target just like they
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see an easy target in Christians.
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Christians see an easy target with Jewish people. And I know that Jewish people can be, you know.
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Deceitful at times. There's nothing wrong with calling that out.
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They do things for their own interest.
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The early part of the Old Testament, that was the whole point.
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I think of the story of Levi and Simeon, and they go in and they say,
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this group of people that this guy, what did he do?
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He slept with their sister or raped her or something like that,
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and then he wanted to marry And then they said, they're pissed off.
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Jacob, who is Israel, is pissed off at them. But his sons, Simeon and Levi,
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are extremely pissed off.
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So they do something kind of, they deceive them and saying, okay,
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you want to become a part of us?
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Well, let's circumcise you and then you'll become a part of our people.
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And then they do it. The guys join ahead and they do it. They all get circumcised.
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We're going to be a part of this new group. You know, we're,
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we're going to get a wealthy and all that and have all this stuff.
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And we get to be a part of this, this thing that they're always blessed,
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but Simeon and Levi go in and then just wipe them out while they're hurting
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after being circumcised.
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And they just wipe them out because they, so they made like a deceitful covenant.
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So I understand they've always, they've done that.
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And if you even read the Apocrypha, there's events that like,
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they'll do things that they're not worried about lying at times because they'll
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say something misleading,
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but they're doing it for the further and best interest of their nation, of their people.
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So whether that's a good thing or a bad thing, I don't know.
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But I mean, it is what it is.
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So I think there's good on both sides, Gentiles and Jewish people.
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We could come together. That's the whole message of the New Testament.
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The barriers, the wall of hostility has been broken down.
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And I think that as Gentiles in this point in history, we are trying to build that wall back up.
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What we are doing right now is to build that wall back up, which the whole point
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of it, Jesus dying on the cross was to make the new man of new people.
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It's not to remove the distinctions.
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Jewish people remain Jews. Gentiles remain Gentiles.
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There is a brotherhood, a new citizenship, a new, you know, a commonwealth that
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we can all have together.
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And that's the whole point of the message. That's what brings us all together.
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I see, I'm seeing different contradictions in Nick, but I, I have contradictions
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in myself that I need to think through.
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And I, and right here, I'm seeing, that's what I'm seeing from his point.
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He wants to, he's like, he's berating Jews at times and people of Israel.
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But at the same time, at the second breath, he says that he would rather live
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with them immediately as opposed to people of Muslim faith, which that is striking and startling.
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Why are you snapping at the people that are the ones that you would have so much commonality with?
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And that's a disagreement I see with Nick and with a lot of people.
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I know it's not popular and I know people don't want to hear it at times,
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but it's where I stand. I'm not perfect.
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I'm trying to learn more about this.
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And I don't want to say, I just say it like that. I'm going to learn more about this.
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I, I think we all have growth, a room for growth in whatever,
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wherever we stand and whatever issue it is, you know, but we need to think these
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things out and not just go into this new year.
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Oh, lackadaisical and not even knowing where we stand, what's right,
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what's wrong, because we could go off a cliff if we're not careful.
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All right, we'll leave it at that.
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