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142 WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON IN BLACK STAR CANYON?! · The Eye of Jupiter Podcast

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  Speaker 1: There was this massive dog man, and he had already
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  Speaker 1: had one paw, massive paw, on my front windshield, and
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  Speaker 1: one paw right above my mirror on the driver's side.
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  Speaker 1: And the driver's side of my car just pushed down.
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  Speaker 1: The weight of it just pushed down. And the paw
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  Speaker 1: that was on my front windshield, my windshield started cracking.
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  Speaker 2: And held it and held it and held it, and
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  Speaker 2: then while I was holding it, The, it's like the,
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  Speaker 2: the ground underneath me just kind of opened up and
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  Speaker 2: I just kind of fell through the planet.
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  Speaker 3: He wasn't moving. He wasn't blinking. Like there was a complete, like,
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  Speaker 3: just like blankness to his face. Like there was just,
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  Speaker 3: there was nothing there.
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  Speaker 4: I grabbed my 44 out of my truck.
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  Speaker 3: I jumped out the truck and that's when I knew
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  Speaker 3: it was.
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  Speaker 4: It was this dog man.
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  Speaker 1: There would be a real low guttural ground.
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  Speaker 3: One more step and he's going to be in clear view.
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  Speaker 3: And he takes that one more step and he just,
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  Speaker 3: it was like he just stepped behind an invisible curtain
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  Speaker 3: and he wasn't there anymore.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome back to the show, everyone. This week we had
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  Speaker 4: on Jerry Brandenburg. And Jerry Brandenburg comes to us from
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  Speaker 4: Southern California near the Black Star Canyon. Jerry's just a
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  Speaker 4: normal dude, man, just like you and I. And all
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  Speaker 4: these strange things started happening to him when he started
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  Speaker 4: going around these places. And it's very weird. It's very dense.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of it's very visual. So if you want
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  Speaker 3: I would support.
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  Speaker 4: I appreciate all this support. I'll get it out eventually.
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  Speaker 4: You know how it is. If you keep coming back
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  Speaker 4: to the show, thank you all very much, first of all,
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  Speaker 4: for that. And if it's your first time here, hey!
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  Speaker 4: so at the iAdrupitorPodcast at gmail.com. One more time, the
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  Speaker 4: iAdrupitorPodcast at gmail.com. This was an incredible episode. At the beginning,
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  Speaker 4: I was kind of skeptical and everything, but there was
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  Speaker 4: a specific video that he showed me that I just
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  Speaker 4: could not get my head around. And you can hear
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  Speaker 4: my surprise at the beginning of seeing it, and I
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  Speaker 4: was not knowing what the.
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  Speaker 3: Hell it was.
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  Speaker 4: So thank you, Jerry, so very much. And I hope
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  Speaker 4: you guys enjoy this episode with one Mr. Jerry Brandenburg.
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  Speaker 3: Hello, everybody.
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  Speaker 4: Hello, Jerry. How's it going today?
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  Speaker 3: I'm good, Tom. Tom, nice to meet you. And I'm
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  Speaker 3: glad to be here. I like your show. I've checked
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  Speaker 3: you out. I like it. And I don't mind telling
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  Speaker 3: everything I know right now.
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  Speaker 4: Well, thanks, Jerry. Where are you coming from today?
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  Speaker 3: I'm in SoCal, sitting in SoCal. You know, not too
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  Speaker 3: far from the ocean, not too far from... Huntington Beach
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  Speaker 3: and probably close to San Diego, Temecula area.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: You act like I know where that is.
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  Speaker 3: That's why I said like five things, so somebody might.
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  Speaker 4: How far are you from the Black Star Canyon?
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  Speaker 3: Well, shoot, there you go. I'm 20 miles, 25 miles
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  Speaker 3: away from it. And I grew up closer to it,
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  Speaker 3: probably 15 miles from it. But I never knew it
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  Speaker 3: was there.
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  Speaker 4: All right, Jayford. For those who don't know you as
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  Speaker 4: well as myself, introduce yourself a little bit and tell
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  Speaker 4: us a little bit about yourself and where we can
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  Speaker 4: find you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, my name is Jerry Brandenburg, and I can be
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  Speaker 3: found only on Facebook, Jerry Brandenburg. I think there's also
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  Speaker 3: a TikTok there that I started with some stuff, but
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  Speaker 3: I strictly stick to the Facebook. page is because uh
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  Speaker 3: I haven't had Facebook for a long time I got
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  Speaker 3: rid of it a long time I go I don't
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  Speaker 3: feel like putting everything up there for everybody to see
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  Speaker 3: you know in my household if you know me then
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  Speaker 3: you get to see everything right and uh um so
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  Speaker 3: I did so I we started hiking me and my
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  Speaker 3: wife and my kids started hiking on these trails and
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  Speaker 3: I started coming up with these crazy pictures and videos
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  Speaker 3: of this stuff you know and I was all well
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  Speaker 3: what do I do with this stuff Well, I'll open
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  Speaker 3: up a Facebook page and I'll just put it strictly
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  Speaker 3: on there. So pretty much if you go to this
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  Speaker 3: page and you look at my photos, it's all strictly
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  Speaker 3: from really one place.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: One location.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: It's crazy.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Just a little three mile hiking trail could produce what
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  Speaker 3: it produced. But also, so I was an iron worker.
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  Speaker 3: I grew up as an iron worker. I was a
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  Speaker 3: structural steel iron worker. And then when I was in
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  Speaker 3: my 30s, I was also a bull rider. All growing up, too,
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  Speaker 3: since I was from junior rodeo riding here in Southern California.
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  Speaker 3: We do that stuff here, too. So I grew up
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  Speaker 3: in Norco, California, riding horses, you know, as a little kid,
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  Speaker 3: roping and doing that kind of stuff. And then in
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  Speaker 3: my 30s, I broke my leg on a bull at
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  Speaker 3: a PBR in Carthage, Missouri, stamped my leg at the knee.
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  Speaker 3: And four months later, I was a building inspector.
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  Speaker 4: Right there.
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  Speaker 3: Cause I went to school, I was already a structural
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  Speaker 3: steel welder. So I was able to go to the
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  Speaker 3: school to be a welding inspector for what I was doing. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So when I already, I already knew how to do it.
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  Speaker 4: I'm a former certified TIG welder. I did all my
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  Speaker 4: learning in Germany, man. You know, x-ray 45 degree angle pipe,
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  Speaker 4: all that stuff, man.
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  Speaker 3: You know, all of it because it's all, it's all
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  Speaker 3: right there. It's all mixing together.
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  Speaker 4: It's the same.
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  Speaker 3: Mine was structural steel, D 1.1. Okay. Wow. Yeah. And, uh,
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  Speaker 3: And so I became an inspector at 30 and then
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  Speaker 3: opened my business and got the other certs added on
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  Speaker 3: like concrete, masonry. Here in SoCal, we have the seismic
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  Speaker 3: zone three and four for earthquakes. So basically the special
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  Speaker 3: deputy inspectors are there to enforce that that stuff gets
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  Speaker 3: handled and do the built into construction. So if anywhere
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  Speaker 3: where there's no earthquakes, we really don't have a job,
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  Speaker 3: you know? So we're pretty much earthquake inspectors. So it
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  Speaker 3: gives me a lot of time to do a lot
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  Speaker 3: of stuff. So like I say, um, I want to,
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  Speaker 3: I can't really just go this one. I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: tell you big foots are real. Sasquatches are real. And
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  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure dog men are real too. Okay. If
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  Speaker 3: I saw one, I don't know. It might've been a juvenile,
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  Speaker 3: but I didn't see like the full size dog, man. But, um, and, um,
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  Speaker 3: ghost spirits are super real.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Little kids spirits are real. And, uh, I got them
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  Speaker 3: all here at this place, all in one location. And
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  Speaker 3: so I started, I guess they've been poking at me.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if anybody's seen anything else I've said
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  Speaker 3: when I talked about when I was 19 and I
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  Speaker 3: was in Pawnee, Oklahoma at the Indian Reservation, renting a
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  Speaker 3: house there, working out there for Brown and Root, big
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  Speaker 3: ironworking company in the refineries. And I rented a house
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  Speaker 3: on the Indian Reservation, the Pawnee's, And I had no neighbors.
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  Speaker 3: I was out on the highway. No neighbors. I was
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  Speaker 3: only 19. It was pretty hairy. I'll tell you what.
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  Speaker 3: I was kind of, you know, but I was from California,
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  Speaker 3: I take it. And so this stuff used to come
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  Speaker 3: and poke on my window in the middle of the
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  Speaker 3: night by my bed and tap the window and then
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  Speaker 3: I could hear it breathing. And so I would get
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  Speaker 3: up and I'd be like, grab those curtains and I'm
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  Speaker 3: going to open these curtains up. see what it is.
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  Speaker 3: And I remember thinking in my head, and then if
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  Speaker 3: we're face to face, you know, it can just probably
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  Speaker 3: punch through the window and grab me. And I don't
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  Speaker 3: got no way to defend myself at all. So I
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  Speaker 3: went and bought me a 22 rifle, you know, little
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  Speaker 3: money as I made, I went and got a 22
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  Speaker 3: at the pawn shop out there. And so being 19,
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  Speaker 3: I was just being a little punk, you know, and
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  Speaker 3: I was shooting everything I could find anything, you name it.
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  Speaker 3: If it crossed my path out there, I shot, I
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  Speaker 3: killed it. I quit then. Let everybody know that I
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  Speaker 3: quit then, right after I was 19 when I quit
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  Speaker 3: doing that. And because of what happened. So I was
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  Speaker 3: doing it, and then I hear a voice in my
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  Speaker 3: head go, stop shooting the animals. As loud as it
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  Speaker 3: could be, just a voice. No one was around. No
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  Speaker 3: one was there. Stop shooting the animals. Just like that. Great.
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  Speaker 3: Clear as day, yeah. In my mind.
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  Speaker 4: Out there in Oklahoma when you were younger.
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  Speaker 3: In the Indian reservation when I was 19.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And so I go, okay, I'll stop shooting animals. And I,
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  Speaker 3: I was just learning about church, learning about God at
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  Speaker 3: that time. So I took myself, you know, into church
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  Speaker 3: and I was 19. I picked a church. I was
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  Speaker 3: going to it and all the time learned about everything. And,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and I was thinking to myself, was that
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  Speaker 3: God that was telling me that, you know, could be,
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  Speaker 3: but yeah, When I look back, I keep having a
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  Speaker 3: picture of a Sasquatch in my head, in my brain.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, why would I be picturing Sasquatches in my head?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know anything about them. So anyway, there was
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  Speaker 3: some kind of animal that pulled up on a tree
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  Speaker 3: behind my house, and my dog... I don't know what
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  Speaker 3: it is. It looked like a raccoon, but a brown
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  Speaker 3: and a black one. I guess the colors of the
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  Speaker 3: tail were striped brown and black instead of gray and black.
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  Speaker 4: Oh.
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  Speaker 3: I've heard different things, maybe a wolverine. Someone said it
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  Speaker 3: could be a wolverine or something. I don't know, but
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  Speaker 3: it's bigger than a raccoon too. And so I shot
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  Speaker 3: it and blew it out of the tree and killed it.
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  Speaker 3: And I threw it out there and I took off
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  Speaker 3: the skirt. And I come home that day and I
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  Speaker 3: had a really nice coon dog, you know, red bone
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  Speaker 3: coon dog, a female. She was in a good cage
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  Speaker 3: and she never got out ever. And as soon as
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  Speaker 3: I come up over the hill on the highway to
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  Speaker 3: my house there, she laid dead on the highway with
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  Speaker 3: her head caved in. Yeah. And yeah. And, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you can't say these things happen. Oh, this was for
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  Speaker 3: sure happened. You know, I take it to the bank.
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  Speaker 3: But when you get feelings when stuff happens, right? You
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  Speaker 3: do get feelings because the residue is there from the
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  Speaker 3: energy that happened and you pick up on it. This
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  Speaker 3: happened or it comes from, hey, I told you so.
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  Speaker 3: And that's what I was getting. I told you so.
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  Speaker 3: I told you to stop doing it. Yeah, that's what
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  Speaker 3: I was getting.
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  Speaker 4: So when you went in the house, did you see
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  Speaker 4: where someone took a letter out of the cage?
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  Speaker 3: No, no, shut up, shut up. Yeah, it was a mystery.
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  Speaker 3: And I got that that's what happened. It was playing
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  Speaker 3: in my head. This is what happened. We killed it.
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  Speaker 3: We told you to stop. So that's it. Stopped right then.
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  Speaker 3: I was done. But then I went off to work
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  Speaker 3: in Texas and I didn't really want to go back
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  Speaker 3: to that house ever. And so I went off to
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  Speaker 3: work with Texas or Brown and Root. And then I
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  Speaker 3: got me a different house and I had friends move
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  Speaker 3: my stuff. I didn't even want to ever go back
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  Speaker 3: to that house. Because you look at it now, if
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  Speaker 3: you look at the Google Earth, even now it's just solid, nothing.
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  Speaker 3: There might be a couple of houses next to it,
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  Speaker 3: but it's still just wheat fields and wheat fields and
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  Speaker 3: wheat fields. And that goes back into Lake Oolaga. And
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  Speaker 3: if you look now, you find that there's a lot
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  Speaker 3: of Bigfoot sightings in Oolaga. So it could have been them.
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  Speaker 3: Who knows? We can't. I mean, we just have to
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  Speaker 3: believe these things, these stories we hear, you know, all
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  Speaker 3: we can really do. You know, I got a reason
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  Speaker 3: to lie. I'm just going to tell you, though, how
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  Speaker 3: it happened, how it all happened. So years go by.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think of nothing else about Bigfoot or nothing.
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  Speaker 3: And in 2004, I was probably about 34, something like that. Already.
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  Speaker 3: And we're at Lake Silverwood, me and my son on
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  Speaker 3: a boat and we're boating along and I come up
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  Speaker 3: to where the water runs out of the lake. And
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  Speaker 3: I'm looking at this thing squatted in the middle of
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  Speaker 3: it and picture about five lanes of highways. That's how
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  Speaker 3: thick this water is, the body of water that moves
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  Speaker 3: out of the lake. And it's all the camping right
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  Speaker 3: there where all the kids are camping, all the people
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  Speaker 3: are camping right there. And I'm coming up to it
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  Speaker 3: and I'm looking at it and we start connecting eye
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  Speaker 3: to eye and this thing starts standing up. And it
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  Speaker 3: keeps standing up and it keeps standing up and it
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  Speaker 3: keeps standing up forever, man. So it was like close over,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, probably eight foot tall, eight foot tall,
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  Speaker 3: but it was hairless. I mean, I say naked then, right?
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  Speaker 3: I said, then I say naked, now I say hairless.
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  Speaker 3: But it was a naked male and no clothes on.
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  Speaker 3: And now I think about it, it looks like a Neanderthal,
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  Speaker 3: the Neanderthal face and everything when I think about it.
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  Speaker 3: And made that same move, that same move that Patty makes,
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  Speaker 3: you know, where she turns her whole body and throws
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  Speaker 3: her hands one forward, one back, and turns her leg,
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  Speaker 3: you know, that whole hip movement.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, when the muscle in the leg jiggles.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I got that thing's buttocks was this big.
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  Speaker 4: Boom.
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  Speaker 3: And he turned around. I remember looking at him and
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  Speaker 3: he walked like that as he walked away and I'm
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  Speaker 3: turning my boat around and we were eye to eye for,
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  Speaker 3: you know, a few seconds. I go, man, I don't
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  Speaker 3: know why there's a naked man here. But then as
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  Speaker 3: we were leaving, I told my son, he was nine.
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  Speaker 3: I said, do you see that naked man? He goes, no.
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  Speaker 3: I said, good. I didn't want you to see him. Right. Right.
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  Speaker 3: And we took off. And then so that was then.
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  Speaker 3: And so now we go back to 2014, dump up
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  Speaker 3: another 10 years. That went 10 years and then another
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  Speaker 3: 10 years. I'm at a girls' softball game, and this
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  Speaker 3: guy is from Utah. He's telling me about he was
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  Speaker 3: fishing in Lake Shasta, and he had a big old
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  Speaker 3: stringer of fish laying up there, and through the bushes
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  Speaker 3: came a Bigfoot, a hairless Bigfoot. He said it had
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  Speaker 3: no hair on it. It was naked, looked like a
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  Speaker 3: naked man, but definitely a Bigfoot face. And he said
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  Speaker 3: it was grunting, and it wanted his fish. And he
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  Speaker 3: was all, I'll give you the fish. And he gave
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  Speaker 3: him the fish and turned around and walked away. He
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  Speaker 3: seen the, the female and the kids too. And he said,
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  Speaker 3: they're all look like identical big foots with no hair.
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  Speaker 3: And I wasn't into it then either. I'm okay. Whatever, man.
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  Speaker 4: I've never heard of a hairless one.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I have now.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I have now. Yes, I have.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. But I have, yeah. Now I've heard of one,
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  Speaker 3: another story here lately. I've heard about it.
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  Speaker 4: Okay. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: And, uh, and, uh, so, um, So I was thinking, yeah, whatever. Okay, whatever.
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  Speaker 3: And then, oh, shoot. How old was I then? And then, like,
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  Speaker 3: about four years later, five years later, whatever, I'm at
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  Speaker 3: a job in Carlsbad as being an inspector, you know.
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  Speaker 3: And Carlsbad, it's out there by San Diego, and it's
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  Speaker 3: just all mountains and land that nobody's ever touched. Most
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  Speaker 3: of it is often stopped from the military, right? The
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  Speaker 3: military grabs all of that land. It cleans off all
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  Speaker 3: of it. No one's ever been out to touch this land, right?
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  Speaker 3: And so right on the edge there that these people, OSL,
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  Speaker 3: Oakmont Senior Living, we were building these apartments for old people,
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  Speaker 3: like 100 units. And we were doing that there. And
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  Speaker 3: so they're working on a piece of property that's never
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  Speaker 3: been touched. And I look down and here's a big footprint.
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  Speaker 3: It's like 16 inches big, 17 inches big, all five toes.
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  Speaker 3: The heel, the whole line of the foot. And I
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  Speaker 3: was looking at it out of my truck with the
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  Speaker 3: door open. I'm like, what in the hell is this? Wow, man.
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  Speaker 3: And I took a picture of it, and it's posted
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  Speaker 3: on my Facebook. And the weird part, too, but it
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  Speaker 3: was on hard pack. You know, they had already rolled
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  Speaker 3: that thing with the roller. Right. DG, right? Decomposed granite.
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  Speaker 3: And the pack's good. That's their base underneath their blacktop
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  Speaker 3: that they're going to pour later on the job site.
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: and so it was already hard hard hard and you
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: can still see this big foot in it and packed
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: in it and that's when I looked up and I
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: started looking around and I go wow man I go
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: this is some crazy stuff what is going on and
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: I go okay I told myself then I said okay
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: why don't you just show me then tell me what
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: you're going to show me you want to show me
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: so bad let me see it and when I said
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: those words I shouldn't say it because after that since
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: then this last four years has been a been a
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: pretty crazy time.
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah there's a thing when you when you've already made
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: that like connection back in oklahoma there seems to be
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: like it's kind of like it doesn't just stay with
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: one of them sometimes it's like you are you're there
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: you're in the you're in the clan so to speak
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: and now when you go go ahead and show me
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: which i've heard before when people talk see who ufos
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: so they go all right show me something it just
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: fucking zips off it shoots up and leaves like a
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: trail of like you know like like star trek up
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: in the sky And so be careful what you wish
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: for guys.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I would have been into really nothing, but I
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: believe in all of it now.
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. The world will show you sometimes when you're
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: not ready for it to do so.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I was a werewolf like five years in a
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: row and I was a kid for Halloween. And now
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: think about how excited I am that they find out
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: that they're real. Right. I'm like, man, miracle happens all
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: the time.
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: I don't want to see one of them, man. I
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: don't want to.
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: See one of them. Yeah. Yeah. And then, so, um, yeah.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: So after I said that we're living in Canyon Lake,
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: it's a, it's a, like a 400 acre Lake over
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: here in SoCal, but it's not far, like say 20,
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: 25 miles away from Blackstar Canyon. And, um, um, it's
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: a gated community. And so, um, I'm at down at
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: one of the parks, you know, and I'm out down
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: at the park and I take pictures of these prints.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: It's a big footprint and, like this and a big handprint,
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: way bigger than my hand. And the foot, like I say,
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: was like 16 inches big, but something had taken a straw,
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: like straw sticks, and they outlined it. Like they were
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: just sitting there playing with it. Like, oh, look at this.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: This is a foot, you know? And they, yeah, I
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: have a picture of it on my Facebook too. Like
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: later on, you can tell, oh, look, that was framed
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: by something. Something framed that. And they wanted us to
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: see it. They wanted me to see it, right? And
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: when you look in the picture, you can see two
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: stink bugs are in that print too. Like it probably stunk.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: It probably smelled. So bugs came to it.
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: This is all speculation.
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: But it's stuff that's happened. So I repeat it because
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: when I think back later, I think, damn, man, we've
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: got a possibility that this is happening to me. You know,
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: I think I've saw sticks now. Like I say, I
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: saw a stick. And, um, and so, um, So I
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: took pictures of it and I started looking around again,
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: like what in the heck was going on here and
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: looking around. And I'm coming to the conclusion that that's
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: what they want you to do is they put the
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: stuff in front of you. And if you see it
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: and now you take pictures of it and you start
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: looking curiously like this, they know that you're looking for them.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: And that's what I think. That's what I'm getting.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: They want you to look for them.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: For something that can't, that doesn't want to be seen.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: Now I'm telling you, They want me to look for
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: them at these certain points of time. Probably they could
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: be like young juveniles or old, not, you know, not
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: full grown adults that don't, you know, that, Hey, I
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: want the humans to notice us.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: You know, I think that's what it is, is what I'm,
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: what I'm coming to because, um, so then it wasn't
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: not too long after that weeks or months, I go outside,
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: I got a bad headache. I don't get headaches. I
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: got this bad headache. I go outside. I look in
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: the back of my truck. And here's a a triangle
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: in the back of my truck they took the fold-up
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: chair uh fishing pole and i think a fishing bag
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: with the strap and they created the perfect triangle.
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: I've seen that i remember you showed me that and
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: then they put up.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: The corn yeah and then they laid a corn in
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: there the unhusked corn right and laid it in there
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: but the way it said it said like right when
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: you look at it. You can see it's a presentation. Like,
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: look at me. I'm here for you to eat. I mean,
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: you can see it right away. Yeah. Right away. And
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: I got a headache and I went right to it
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, what in the heck is this? What's this?
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: And then my wife pops off. She goes, uh, Hey,
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: they want to know if you trust them like that.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: And I was all, what? I wasn't thinking that, but she, she,
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: you know, she, she thinks of stuff too. So She
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: said that to me and I go, wow.
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: She's seen them as well? She's seen this as well?
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: She's heard the samurai chatter super, super clear. And then
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: I have a video, a minute and 32 second video
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: of these juveniles we were looking at with their heads
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: spoken out of the branches. And she saw that.
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: And that helps when you have your spouse because it's
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: not because there's people who, you know, men and men
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: and women are in the relationships where one is seeing them.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: The other one is not. And that causes a lot of,
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: you know, strife within the relationship. So that's something, you know, okay.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, my little kids, they like it. But my oldest kid,
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: he goes, I ain't real dead. But I think he's
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: coming around now. He's starting to come around. He might
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: be watching. I think he's coming around. Yeah, he's starting
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: to figure out that they are real. That's just another
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: form of person, I believe, that came from the Bible,
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: Esau's descendants. You know, it's other nations for God's forbidden people,
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: they call it. I think they are anyway. And they
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: were right to trade the firstborn right for a bull.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: They gave us the rat race and they get to
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: kick it in the woods.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: You should put that on a shirt. They gave us
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: the rat race and they get to kick it in
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: the woods.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: That's a t-shirt.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you got to put a big foot on there. Yeah, dude,
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: that's a good idea for a t-shirt.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, waiting to happen, right? So I'm going to, you know,
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: I haven't, I've just been talking around this and saying
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: this a couple of times lately because I started doing
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: a couple of these in December. And I felt like, wow,
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: I got it out, man. It feels so much good
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: to get it out of you because it was just
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: building up and building up and building up. And I
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: see other people use it too. They have it in
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: their sides of them for a little bit and they
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: let it out. Just saying. You know, because they came
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: looking for us, obviously. And I'm just going to go
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: ahead and say it now on your show right here
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: for the first time that I'm the guy that ate
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: the corn. And I got to witness what I saw
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: after that.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Could you say that again, Jerry?
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: I ate their corn. I ate that corn. It took
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: me about a month. I put it in my freezer.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: But then one day I came home and I cooked
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: it and I ate it. And then it was two
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: months later, I found this place where I'm seeing them now.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: And I got some stuff that's pretty wicked, man. I
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: can't even just post it and put it out there
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: because people are going to not understand what it is.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: But I got this long documentation. We've been in there
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: 40 times at least in the last two years, right?
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: And done all these different things in there. And when
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: I put up a picture, I've got like a whole
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: series of that picture, right? Of stuff that was happening.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: And I picked out the best one. It's not just
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: an oops picture. You know, something was happening right there.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: It was going down right there. And all the other
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: times I'm there, they're not there. But only in this
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: one set a day I was there. I got pictures
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: that look like that. And it's a video of a
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: little 12-inch thing. He also has a little buddy there.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: He's 12 inches tall. And it's a video. And he's
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: looking for a bug. And it flies up. And he's
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: looking for the bug. And he turns his head as
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: he's looking for the bug. Fly away. And then he
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: sees me and they cloak. 12 inches? Yeah, he's about
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: 12 inches tall. He's probably about that big. He's got
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: these little green things that come up over his head.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: What is it that you're seeing? I'm sorry, I'm not understanding.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: They're 12 inches tall, and they got these little, like,
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: green spikes that come up over their head. I don't
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: know if they're antlers, whatever they are. They're 12 inches tall,
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: and there were two of them. One was on this
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: side of the branch, and one's on this side of
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: the branch. And he's looking for a bug, and you
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: see the bug fly out, and it flies away, and
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: he's trapping it like this with his head, and then
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: he sees me videotaping him, and he... he cloaks, they
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: both cloak, but they don't disappear, disappear. They have like
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: an outline. You can see like a, just out straight
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: that goes over their head and go straight down.
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: What are they? What are they, Jerry?
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: They are. I don't know what they are. I have
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: the premonition that they're like the whistleblowers for the bigger
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: things that are running around out there. Like they have
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: a job to do. Like they're why you have a
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: hard time rolling up on big ones. Cause they have
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: all these smaller ones that you can't see. Or like a,
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: alert system.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah or maybe they're like uh kind of like some
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: type of other entity out there they're in collaboration with
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: and that's an interesting point i don't think i've ever
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: heard that dude well and.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: I'm getting that i picked that up because uh of
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: um i have all these different videos right and so
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: the spot is right when you pass the trailhead 100
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: feet to the right and it's behind a massive um
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: fence that's all bob wired a lot of it's electric
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: out there but this part's just bob wired and there's
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: this crazy branch that fell over on the ground right
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: and the branches in front of it make a circle
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: like someone we us people would go that's a portal
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: just like that right we just say it but thing
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: about it is and all these different trips i've taken
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: out there i've got like six seven different creatures that
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: look like they're sitting in it.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: Okay, could you describe these 12-inch ones again in a
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: little more detail?
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. What's it look like? They're just green. They're
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: just green, and they're like, so check it out. They
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: look like they have green hoodies, black faces, and green eyes.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: So they might be even black with green hoodies on,
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: and that might be what they're cloaking with is that
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: green stuff that's on them, but they're black with green
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: eyes then.
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: And they're like humanoid shaped or an animal?
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: Totally us. I don't know what's the name of that.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: Whether to use that word. What's that word that we are?
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: The shape we are?
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: Humanoid?
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: Well, I think it's a different word. But yeah, head, body, arms.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: Like not even a squirrel. A squirrel wouldn't even look
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: like this. Or even a ferret. Or even a bipedal.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: Or like, how do you mean? Yeah, it looked like
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: legs and a body and arms. And it moves. The
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: way it moves, it's weird. Like, you can almost see
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: its spine on its back, you know? Like, when he
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: stands up and he turns. It's on there. You can
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: see it. But this is something that needs to get investigated. Like,
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: this is what I hear people go, Jerry, you know
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: what peridolia is? I go, yeah, it's a word people
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: use that they've never seen.
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: Okay, you know the gentleman from the cryptid wranglers? Yeah, Daniel.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: I know Daniel.
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: Okay, yeah. Okay, so you should be close by Daniel
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: over there.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we've been to the same spot with each other. Okay.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: So you're buddies with Daniel.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: All right. Okay. Good people.
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: Good.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And he kept telling me stuff I was sending him.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: He goes, Jerry, you know what a pareidolia is? Jerry,
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: you know what a pareidolia is? Well, when we got together,
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: I showed him my phone in my truck. I got
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: him in my truck and I opened up my phone.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: I go, look at this. I go, it doesn't come
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: out over that same way over Facebook. It looks different.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: And that's why I was.
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: Telling you, that's what I was telling you. That's what
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: I was telling you. The pictures are hard, but what
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: you're seeing also, what you're seeing with the naked eye,
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: you know, you try to take a picture of the moon,
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: even with the technology we have, it's not the same
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: or a sunset. It doesn't have the same effect as
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: it does when you're looking at it for real. So
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: you guys go over there to Jerry's Facebook there. Go
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: ahead and check that out, man. So you're seeing all
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: different types of entities out there as well. Not just Bigfoot.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: No, no. So, so then two months after I eat
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: this corn, I would say... One second, Jerry.
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: We're going to have to cut this out.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: My girlfriend's a stupid cat. That's a Tom and Jerry show.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: That's okay. I said hi, babe. No, he had to
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: get his cat. Oh, he's back. Can't hear you.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: That's my girlfriend's cat, Nacho. Makes a ton of noise.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: All he knows is food.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: But he's Nacho Cat. He's your girlfriend's cat. He's Nacho Cat.
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: Fair enough. It was not my cat, Nacho Cat.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: I told him I'm going to actually serve him up
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: one day because I, oh, he drives me crazy. Anywho, man,
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: so you were saying.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: So I ate the corn. Ate the corn. Two months later,
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: I'm sitting there watching YouTube, and I'm watching the show.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: It says Bigfoots in Orange County. So I'm like, okay,
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: this is going to be good, right? So I flip
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: over to Bigfoots in Orange County, and they're talking about
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: the Black Star Canyon, right? And that guy on there,
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: is it Harvey, Matt Harvey? Matt Harvey. Yeah, Matt Harvey.
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: I've had him on too, yes.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: Every word that man says, I saw everything that he
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: saw out there. He's not lying. outline all true and
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: and more and um it took me a couple years
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: but i finally got a hold of him and uh
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: he's a good he's a good guy and i hope
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: he i hope he invites me to go i asked
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: him to when you go will you invite me to
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: go with you if you go back and he said.
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: I feel i'm only just scratching the surface with matt
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: harvey i had him on and I felt like we
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: could have talked for four hours and I was like,
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: all right, buddy, I'm going to, I'm going to contact
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: you again. So you can go, Oh yeah, no problem. So, uh,
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: go ahead and check out another episode with Matt Harvey.
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: Go ahead and check that out.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good. It's real good. It's big foots. It's
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: a mysteries, unknown mysteries or mysteries unknown. And then, and yeah. And, um, so, um,
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: So yeah, we watched that. And so I go, come on.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: I was laughing. I told my wife and my kids,
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: come on, we're going hiking because it's not far away, right?
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: It's just on the other side of the mountain. And
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: on this side of the mountain, the 91 freeway, I
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: lived in Norco, grew up in Norco. I used that
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: freeway for 35 years on this side of the mountain.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: I never knew this stuff was over there. And just
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: on the other side, a thousand caves, just on the
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: other side of the mountain. Thousand caves, thousand caves. And,
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: you know, when they dig, then they're always mining over here. here,
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: you know, you know, and they're always mining in the
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: Appalachian mountains too, right? And it seems like everywhere they
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: start digging big, big holes that we, they have things.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: Doesn't seem like that. The stuff comes up.
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: The whole Appalachian area is nothing but one large cave system.
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's ridiculous. Mammoth cave. Uh, it's just the
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: first one I can think of. Uh, and if you,
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: there's also people who's been plotting like maps of Bigfoot
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: sightings that go along with the cave entrances and where
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: it goes along. So I don't know, man. I don't know.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: That's how it is over there. They have first gold mines,
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: and then they switched over to coal or something like that.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: And that's why it's called Black Star, because if you
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: light the coal on fire, you get that really big,
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: bright star effect, what I heard. And so there had
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: been a bunch of murders over there in the 1800s
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: by a bunch of Indians got killed, and then a
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: bunch of cowboys got killed. in there. And then in
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: the seventies, a school bus rolled off the top of
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: the hill and killed like 13 kids in there, you know,
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: and then there were owners, the past owners were fighting
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: each other with guns and killing each other in there.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: So there's been a lot of depth in there. We
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: always feel really good in there. When we're in there hiking, man,
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: we feel good. That's why we like to go in there.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: But the first time, it was the second time we
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: left there, I went straight to the hospital and my
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: heart was felt like it was going to jump out
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: of my chest. I thought I was going to have
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: a heart attack. We went straight from there, straight to
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: the hospital.
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: You mean like an anxiety attack? Yeah.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: Something like that. Like maybe I got zapped or something.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: And you've never had that before?
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: No, no. And they checked my heart. There's nothing wrong
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: with me. It felt like I was having a heart attack.
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: You're the first person to describe it just like that.
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: That's interesting because I'm a person who has had anxiety,
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: you know, because of military shift. I'm still, still dealing with,
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: still dealing with it.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah. So, that it was like the heart's jumping out
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: but it's like being on it for me it's like
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: being on a roller coaster that first hill that that
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: feel but you're just sitting in your drive you know
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: in your house whatever yeah so i've never experienced that
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: before and then had to go directly to the hospital
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: i would say you most likely were zapped that's.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: It yeah because this has happened too i was videotaping
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: something twice we were videotaping something just videotaping we're looking
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: look at this is crazy this is crazy and i
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: have that stuff too and then all of a sudden
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: we're all let's go let's go get out of here
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: and let's get in the truck and go down the road.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: And then we're going down the freeway coming home and
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: it hits you. Man, I was just videotaping something cool.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: And I just wrapped it up and left. That's because
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: they can do that, right? They can tell you there's
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: nothing here, go away. You know, they can, I don't
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: know how they do that with your senses, but they
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: can do it. They zap you or whatever they're doing
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: with low frequency. They're telling you there's nothing here, go away.
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: So it was like, a subconscious thing where you're like,
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: I gotta get out of here.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: And you do, you just go, okay, I'm leaving. Nothing's here.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: And you walk away and then you get in the
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: truck and you're on the way home. You're go, Oh man,
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: I got to look at my camera. Cause I was
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: filming something cool, but I don't know why I left.
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: And that's when you actually find something.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: That's happened twice out there lately. Yeah. And, uh, and so, uh,
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: so we go out there and I, I, we go
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: out there hiking to black star Canyon. And I always gift.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: I've been gifting from day one, man, because I know
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: about Indians. I was on the Indian Reservation. And I
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: watched a lot of TV. And I love all the Indians, man.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: They were all here first, man. We took it from them.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: Give it back. But anyway, I love all the Indians.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: I'm down with all the Indians. I'm down with them,
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: but it's called war. War conquest.
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: Everyone's done it to everyone.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all their stuff, right?
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, it's like, you know, people try, like, so
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: my girlfriend's Mayan, you know what I mean? So she's
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: Native American. And, you know, so you're like, yeah, you know,
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: part of America is stolen from Mexico. Like, well, you
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: guys stole it from the Native Americans. So, like, who's,
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: it's war and conquest.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: The way it goes. It's awful. It's human nature, but
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: it's part of it. It sucks.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: I just think they should be taken care of better.
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: Of course.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: I think we should be taken care of a lot
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: better than what we do.
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: Oh, well, I mean, everyone could be. Everyone could be.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, especially the Indians, I believe. But anyway, yeah. And
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: so all their stuff, you know, because we got just, what,
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: 250 years of history or just a little more, right?
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: They got 30,000 years of history. And the first time
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: I heard the Indians say that Bigfoot was real, that's
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: all I needed. That's all I needed. When they said
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: that they were real, it's good enough for me. They're real.
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: They say that all of their folklore, it's an older folklore,
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: whether it be Cherokee, Navajo, Pawnee, uh, any of them, any.
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: Of those, they, they all have a couple of names.
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: They do. Yeah.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: They all have a couple of names for them.
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah. There's, there's a, there's a native, uh, native American
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: reservation in Nebraska.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: And it's like only place there's like forested. That place is, uh,
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: That place is wild. I was speaking with Scott Pace,
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: and he went out there, and what he saw out
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: there is indescribable.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: I like that Henry Franzoni, the older dude. You know
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: about him? He worked with the Indians on all their stuff. No, sir.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: I'm unaware.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: No, he says the Bigfoots are in charge of us.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: That's what he says. But yeah, yeah. He worked with
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: a bunch of the tribes on a bunch of the
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: land has to do with how he was keeping track
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: for the government, how much, you know, ducks were on
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: certain parts of what land, right. And he did that
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: for a long time. So he got in with the,
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: with the clans and they would share their Bigfoot stories
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: with them. So he got into Bigfoot and he's got
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: a bunch of stuff written up about Bigfoot. He's old,
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: old guy, Henry Franzoni. Look up at that. He's on
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: a flash of beauty. I like that show too. I
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: like the name. I love the name. It's flash of beauty.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: Ain't it true? When you see one of these things,
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: it's a flash of beauty. They picked a good name.
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: That's interesting because a lot of people, I mean, I've
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: heard encounters. Yeah, I've heard both kinds. I've heard the
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: very positive encounters. And I've heard the ones where they're
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: not so positive, you know. So I guess, you know,
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: they always say beauty is in the eye of the beholder, too. So,
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember. But some people are provoking stuff, too,
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: you know. They want to shoot and they want to
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: shoot things, leave trash all over the place and just
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: run amok and all our stuff, you know? So, but, uh, yeah,
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: that's true. I know I don't do that, but so,
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: so we go hiking and I got an ice chest
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: and I'm leaving the stuff out, vegetables, fruit, leaving all
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: this stuff out, right. Going down there. And then, um,
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: And so we go back three miles exactly. And we
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: turn around and we start walking back. I look over
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: my left shoulder and there's a little field right there.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: Most of it's all woods, right? And high mountains. Well,
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: there's a little patch of flat part over the fence
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: and I see something running and it's a black blur.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: I never seen anything like that before. It's about three
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: foot tall. It runs for about 15 feet and disappears.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: And it's a black blur. And I was looking at
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: it with both my eyes. You know, I didn't just
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: catch it. I turned around to look because I don't know,
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: maybe I had a feeling or something. But I went
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: like this over my left shoulder and I see this
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: thing coming behind us, you know, probably waiting for me
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: to put something else out, you know, so you can
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: get it.
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: I believe that happens to a lot of people where
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: they're just kind of like, or they're just kind of like,
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: you know, like a lot of hunters, they'll just kind of,
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: you know, kind of like just shrug it off. You'll
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: see something out of your peripheral look. It just goes away. Like, ah,
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: you know, that was my mind playing tricks on me.
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: So yeah, of course.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: I didn't know how to tell my wife. I didn't
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: know how to tell her what I saw. You know,
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: I went through everything. I don't know what I'm going
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: to say. I'm just going to go home and draw it.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: So I went home and draw it. And that's what
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: I drew, you know, something about three foot tall running
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: in a black blur. And then I watched Matt's show
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: again and he talks about it and I didn't catch
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: it the first time. But the second time he says, yeah,
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: I saw a black blur running and it ran to
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: the fence and stopped. at the fence. And he said,
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: it was a juvenile Sasquatch. He said, and then it
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: jumped the fence and took off again. I go, well,
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: that's the same thing I saw.
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: And this is the same, in the same area, same place.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: Same trail, same trail. I'm saying the same exact place.
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: Southern California.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: What's that?
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: And Matt Harvey's in Southern California.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: He doesn't live here now. He lives somewhere else. He
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: did live here. No, I think he was doing, he
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: was doing these tours, ghost tours in there.
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: Now it's all coming back to me.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he said that's what he's into. On this little show,
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: he says that he's into the paranormal stuff. And then
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: he goes, oh, yeah, by the way, there's Sasquatches out there, too,
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: on the show. And then goes into talking about him, right?
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: So so I've got pictures. I sent you like 14
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: pictures of, excuse me, of what I think are spirits
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: and ghosts, Indian spirits and ghosts of kids. I sent
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: you those. I thought you, because if you're in the paranormal,
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: I thought you'd think that was interesting.
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: I'm, I'm, I got, I'm not exactly into it, but
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: I got kind of like, you know, Chris Christen's into it.
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: against my will when I was eight years old. So, yeah.
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: Did you have something?
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: I definitely, no, I'm just, I'm looking at the, you're
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: showing me, you're asking me to look at the pictures.
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: You did send me a lot.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: Those are Indian spirits. I believe those are Indian spirits
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: and kids. That's what I think they are, and tree
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: sparrows or whatever the heck they are. That's some pretty
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: gnarly stuff. So we go back again a week later,
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: less than a week later, and I came up out
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: of there with four different things. I sent you a picture.
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: It looks like a gorilla walking behind a fence, and
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: that's an electric fence down in that trail in that canyon.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: They have a tall electric fence all along there, and
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: it looks like a gorilla walking on all fours just
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: on the other side of the fence. Yeah. When you
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: go up there, that's about a three, four foot drop.
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: So if that thing stood up, it could have been
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: nine foot tall, 10 foot tall. That's what I sent
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: that picture into Duke with the world. Bigfoot. Yes. And MK,
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: MK was there.
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: Sorry.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: But MK was there and they, he called me up
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: and said, Hey, we're going to put this. Okay.
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: I'm going to go ahead and show this. I'm going
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: to go ahead and show that picture, man. That was
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: the one. That was the one that got me.
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they liked it. MK said it would look like
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: a Sasquatch.
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: There you go right there, guys. That's the picture you
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: sent me.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: I sent you that? That's way down the list of
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: my pictures. I got some good ones, really good ones. Oh,
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: those are kids. I see it now.
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: That is a crazy picture.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: Those are little kids. See them? So see that little trail?
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: So we only stay on a trail that's like 10
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: foot wide. And my kids stay with me. They go
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: with me sometimes, but they stay with me. And they
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: don't go down these little trails like that. And I
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: don't even know where that little trail is, but it
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: looks like two little kids. And look at their face.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: There's more back there.
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: They're black. They're black. The faces are black.
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: They're hairy. You know what? So this is a screenshot, right?
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: And on the video, I tried to zoom in on it.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: And as I zoom in on it, the one in
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: the back takes the plant and pulls it in front
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: of its face like that.
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: There's four things there.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: You see the other thing? Yeah, behind it. I don't
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: know what that is. I have no idea what that is. Okay,
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: this thing too. See, there's a face. There's these trees
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: out there. There's these trees, and the base is like
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: six feet round, right? And they're hollow with the big
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: cave in them. And I would say that was weird,
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: but it's three different species. So three different species of
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: trees doing it means that something's doing it to the trees.
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: There's like a weird, that's more of a spirit. That
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: looks like a.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: White face, but it's kind of distorted.
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: It's kind of distorted, though.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm trying to show you is that
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: white face that's up at the side.
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's something very hard. What is this we're looking at?
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: That's a little girl with a pink dress on and
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: a pink bonnet. You see her white legs underneath the
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: pink dress?
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: No, I don't. It looks like a, I don't know
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: what I'm looking at, actually.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: I see the white face. So she has a white,
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: her face is white and she has a pink bonnet
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: on her head. And then it has a little pink
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: dress on. You can see her arms, white arms dangling down.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: And the dress comes down above her knees. And then
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: you can see the white down her white leg. I
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: love this one. I think this one beefy.
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: I'm not seeing that. I'm sorry. I'm not trying to
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: be rude. I just, I see like a, like a, yeah,
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: like a round head maybe.
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: See the big white dot? I don't know what this
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: thing is. I see like the face of a boy
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: or something, and it looks like it's got horns. He's
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: got little horns even.
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I see something there. Something has horns.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: Tom, this thing right here, we were looking over the fence,
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: and I can see a big old black hairy body.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: Looked like it might have been squashed down with his
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: head hunkered down like that sitting down. So it was
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: the whole back, you know, I'm, I'm a, I'm a cowboy,
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: you know, and I used to ride bulls and horses.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: And I know, I know when I see a big
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: old piece of black hair, I can, I can recognize it.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: So I'm looking, so we're about 40 feet away and
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: I'm looking down the hill. And so I started videotaping
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: this thing. And, um, that's the next thing, you know,
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: I'm all, let's go, let's get out of here. And
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: we jumped in the truck and took off. But when
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: you look at the.
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: Video, I really see it. Oh, you can see the lakes, dude.
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: That is creepy. What the hell is that?
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's got even little horns on his head,
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: little tiny horns on his black head.
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: It looks like a, what do they call those things?
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: A minotaur?
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: There's another. What I was looking at was next to it.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: This isn't even in the picture what I was looking at. Oh,
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: this is trippy. This is a tree, right? This is
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: a weird tree that's out there. I've got this history going,
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: the stuff that's in this tree. So this is a screenshot, right?
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: All of a sudden, these faces start appearing on the video.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: And I'm looking at it. I go, it looks like Trump.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: To me, it looks like Trump. This is a wonderful tree.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: It's a Trump tree. It's a Trump. Oh, it's a
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: Trump tree. But I look at it, and that looks
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: like it could be anybody's face, right? But to me,
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: it resembles Trump. I don't know why. Not to say
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: anything bad about Trump, but I'm saying that looks like Trump.
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: Oh, don't worry about it, buddy.
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: What is that? So this thing, you can't see really
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: the rest of it. It was a blur like it
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: was running.
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: It's like misty, yeah. It's like a misty black.
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: There's a blur behind it, and you can barely see
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: it make out its weird face. I think it looks
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: like a dog man's face. But I blew it up.
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: I can see that, yeah.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: I blew it up.
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: It looks like a face of sorts, that's for sure.
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: It's running fast. It has a black blur. And above
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: it and all around it, you can see perfect, right?
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: And then there's just a... blur behind this thing in
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: the picture. Like it was running super fast and I
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: caught a picture of it.
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: And this is all in Black Star Canyon?
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: Everything, yeah. And so, yeah, this is a tree right now.
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: That was a big ass tree right there. See, the
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: tan part is a big tree that got, a big
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: branch that got broken off. Demolitioned this tree. I mean,
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: there's no saw cuts. There's no tractor marks. Just broke
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: these big branches right there. And then the tree goes up.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: And when you look, there's a profile of a face,
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: and then it's got a head. You can see the
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: top of the cone head, but its face is just
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: barely sticking out past the tree like this, and you
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: can see its face. Now, all that's broken. We went
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: there the other day, and straight across right there, the
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: whole tree's laying on the ground. Crazy. Oh, here it is.
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: This is even better. I think this actual picture is.
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: Better than that. I outline them so people can see them.
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: And this is.
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: What's this here?
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: That's the corn.
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: Video of something?
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: Video of the corn in the back of my truck
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: that I ate. It's a video. And there's my truck
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: and there's that giant... See, there's the triangle and that
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: corn is placed in there. My wife never buys corn
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: like that.
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: Nope.
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: That truck was there for five days and that corn
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: looks pretty new, but... Okay. No, but it's a gated community.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: People don't just walk up. your house in there you
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: have to invite them in and then they come to
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: your house right right so the stuff was in my
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: truck and i think it looked.
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: Like your whole equipment there all right yeah i think.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: It looked like a diamond or not a diamond triangle
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: and then you look at that corn and it was
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: like a presentation sitting in there but i took it
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: in the house and froze it and then i ate
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: it like 30 days later after my wife was telling
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: me they want to know if you trust them.
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: I suppose it's wild enough.
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: What's this? That's not nothing. Look at this picture. The
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: second time we were there, I'm looking straight up a hill.
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: Nobody should ever find this. I don't think anybody's ever
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: found this. When people start saying, number one in the world,
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: best in the world, I start looking at them funny like, really?
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: You got proof? That's a lot. That's a lot, right?
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: I need stats. Number one in the world. So I
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: don't think anybody should have ever seen this. And where
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: I was looking, I just came around the corner. I
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: looked straight up and I go, what's that? And I
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: start focusing in on it. I got my camera out
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: and to the left of the picture is, I call
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: it Yeti head. It looked like a Yeti. And I
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: was taking pictures of it. It looked like a big
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: Sasquatch's face head. And I was taking pictures of it.
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: And I had to go back the next day to
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: see if it was there or if it was a rock.
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: And it is, it's a carved rock, a big face,
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: the big head. carved, right? And if you look over
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: to the right of this picture, you see two more
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: carving of faces of those rocks.
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: Yes, I see that, yes.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: But when you look up in there, you see a
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: little guy, black guy, he's squashed down like this he's
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: sitting down you know with his knees probably in his
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: chest right there but when you keep going all the
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: way over when you go all the way over you
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: see another black figure and he's got white maybe white
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: tan on his face but he's black and he's looking
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: out like this over like that. And there might be
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: one behind him, you know, when we open the picture
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: up and look at it really good and everything, but
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: that's what we see. And then, and then I've taken
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: pictures and videos of this place a hundred more times
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: and these guys aren't in it.
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: So they're not. So that's the only picture. There it is.
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: There it is without all the extra little.
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, you can see him. There's a little black guy.
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: He's sitting up there. These guys carve rocks. There's more
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: rock carvings out there a lot.
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: That is weird. You need to, Have you ever gone
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: up close to this area?
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: You can't get to that, man. That's straight up a
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: sheer cliff, 60 feet up a sheer cliff, and you've
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: got to jump the fence that's all barbed wire, and
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: you can't get through there anywhere.
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: I want to do a drone.
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: I want to do a drone. You know who owns
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: all that property? It's the Irvine companies that own all
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: that property. They're the richest realtor people in the world, really.
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: They own all Irvine, California. But they own that whole
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: mountain right there. And some of it's a Cleveland. Say
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: this is a video, right? And you see these heads. Now,
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: what you see, what I'm saying, what you see here,
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: I have other pictures that they're not in it. That's
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: how I know it's something there. When I start taking
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: this video, the thing's eyes are green. His eyes are green.
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: And then I'm watching through the video and his eyes
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: turn orange. So I know I'm videotaping something, right? Because
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: I saw his eyes turn in the video. And then
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: at a minute, I think 55 seconds.
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: All down to the bottom left. In the bottom left there?
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right there. And there's another one above him. There's
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: another one on this side of the branch above him.
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: And he's got one round eye too, but this eye
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: turns into like a snake eye. Like a chevron, half
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: of a yin and yang symbol, you know? It turns
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: into like, you can see it moving in the video.
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: It's moving. He's moving. It has like a cat thing
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: in the middle of the eye. And when I keep
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: looking at these, I go, that one looks like a reptilian.
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: That one might be a dog man or a Sasquatch.
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: But what is this? Daycare? Is this cryptid daycare? right here?
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: They're juvenile.
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: I don't know what the make of it. That's for sure.
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: They're not the same. So I'm whistling at it, right?
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: I'm whistling going, come out, come out. And the second
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: time I whistle, it goes, oh, oh, dude, I just.
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: Oh my God.
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: You see the ice change?
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: I've seen something just change and it scared the living
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: crap out of me.
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah. You can see it. It's okay. Cause you can
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: see him sniffing. It blows up, but you can see
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: him sniffing. And at 55 seconds after I whistle the
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: third time, the second time, it goes, oh, you can
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: hear it bark like that. And I wanted to put
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: that on.
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: What did I see? I've seen it move.
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: Hold on.
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: I got to go back.
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: The black one, there's a big head there that I
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: don't know if it's a squatch or a dog man,
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: but the one above the branch is a reptilian. Down
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: here on the bottom. Down here on the bottom. Okay,
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: on the very, very, very, very, very bottom of the picture,
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: you can't see it, but it looks like there's a
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: human skull and a vertebrae laying there, like it's their toy.
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: Like they're dragging it around with them. Like a little toy.
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: I don't know what they are. But I was videotaping.
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: That's nothing I've ever seen.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: I start videotaping. I was videotaping it, and I'm videotaping it,
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: and I tell my wife, look, come here, look at
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: this thing. And she comes over, and she's looking at it,
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: and we're both looking at it, and then... People start
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: walking in. You know, they're coming down the trail closer
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: and closer and closer. Before they got too close, I
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: shut it off so they wouldn't see it. It kind
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: of looks.
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: Like Godzilla, kind of, like the head of Godzilla-like.
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: See the branches that they're sitting in, all the branches?
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: I have more pictures of that, and these things aren't there.
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: They're not there at all. So they were only there
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: this one time. But see these branches? That's crazy, dude. Tom,
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: these are the branches.
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sorry, buddy.
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: I know. It's okay. I'm with you, man. I'm Jack, too.
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: Those branches, that's where I'm telling you where that 12 inches,
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: that little green guy that was 12 inches tall on
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: the video, he's there, too. The exact same branches.
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: That's weird. I don't know. What the hell? It might
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: be a portal right there.
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: What the hell are you getting at there?
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: That might be a portal right there in the middle
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: of the branches. Could be.
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: I don't know what that is. I've seen... Okay, this
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: is what I said. People who are just listening to this,
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: please go over and check out the video on YouTube.
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: I see this thing. It looks like the head is big.
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: But if you look more, it looks like it's smaller,
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: but it's longer shaped. And then the eyes are a
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: certain color, like oranges.
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: It started off green. It was green in the beginning.
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: They were green in the beginning. You have to look
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: close in the beginning. They're green. And then they switch over. Yeah,
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: they switch over to orange.
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: Don't invite me to a good time. Don't invite me
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: to a good time, Jerry. I'm going to look at
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: that again.
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right before I blow it up, that's when they change.
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: And I was looking through. I saw them change. I go, oh, shit,
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: that is something. So I kept videotaping it.
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: All right. Because I think I sent you pictures, too.
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: I sent you a picture of them with green eyes
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: and a picture of me with orange eyes. Thank you.
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: He's still shot.
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: Are we seeing this?
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Okay. You got to see it close. And that's right.
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: Then I blow it up right when they orange.
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: So green right now.
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah. They're green right now. The one on the bottom.
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: They are. See, they're green. I see green. They're green.
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: What is that? But there's a point in here where
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: you can see like that.
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: Keep watching it. And they're going for like.
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: An orange spot. That right there. That right there. It
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: was crazy.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, his eyes turn orange right there. And then the
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: one above him is weird because it has like a
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: chevron eye. And it gets bigger and bigger and bigger
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: as the video goes on. His eye, because he's moving
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: up like this above the branch. Or his eye is
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: moving up above the branch. Their heads don't really move
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: a lot. But I think he's sniffing. He's going like
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: that at us.
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: I don't know what the hell that is, dude.
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: I'm tripping on the spot, really. I don't know what
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: the hell that is. Where they're sitting. Where they're sitting at.
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay. Oh, yeah, okay. Yeah, you were telling me
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: about that thing that you were seeing out there.
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: Excuse me.
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and so. All right.
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: All right. I got to look at that video well enough.
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: I've seen the corn one, and I checked out some
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: of the pictures. It's very hard not being there. I
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: was telling you that at the very beginning. I was like,
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: you know, we're going to go look at them. And
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: then I seen that video. You're, you're, you're seeing something
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: out there. I don't know what the hell that is.
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: Listen to this one.
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: Me and my wife go there in the daytime without
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: the kids, because I take my kids and then all
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: of a sudden I see stuff and I'm like, they
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: ain't going back. I ain't going back at all. And
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: then after we don't see nothing for a little bit
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: and then I'll God's safe. What was I thinking? I
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: could take my kids in there again. Right? So this
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: time we weren't going in there at all. And I'm
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: with my kids. And so me and my wife went
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: in there and we're walking down the trail and And
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: I'm hearing cacaw, cacaw, cacaw. And it doesn't sound like right.
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: It doesn't sound right at all. And so we're both going,
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: I don't think that's something that's real. And we don't
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: know what that is. So when we get down to it,
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: I just put my phone up and I film like
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: this back and forth real quick and I put it away.
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: And when you look at the film, that's when you
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: see this thing. I don't even know if it's a witch.
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: I don't know what it is. Dog man, Sasquatch, a witch.
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: I don't know what a spirit, I don't know what
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: it is. but you can see it sitting there and
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: the last cacaw matches her mouth moving. Cacaw! Like that,
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: when I slow the video down, right? So I'm looking
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: at it. She has these creatures crawling over both her shoulders.
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: They're black and I can't tell what they look like. Gremlins, man,
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: with little faces and these big weird ears, big weird
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: looking black ears and their little eyes, but it looks
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: like a litter, right? She has a litter of something
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: coming over both her shoulders. And When you look at it,
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: they were semi-cloaking, not so much her, but above her
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: is the semi-cloaked Sasquatch, brown, holding, looks like a little baby,
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: and then a yearling is standing at her legs right here.
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: And then you look closer, and there's something else in
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: front of it that looks like an old dog man.
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: And they were cloaking right there, or semi-cloaking. You know,
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: they're here, but they're not.
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: And this is, one more time, Jerry, this is Black
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: Star Canyon?
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Black Star Canyon. And so her face turns like,
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: I got a picture of her face, three different shapes.
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: At one time, you can see it looks like she
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: has tattoo wings on both her eyes like this, around
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: each eye, like that. Yeah, so I don't know what
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: it is, if it's a witch or what it is.
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: But I got it on video. I've laid down a
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: bunch of screenshots of the video. you know and then
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: when i put the video up people i don't can't
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: see nothing and and if i showed you like i
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: showed daniel right i took so daniel and i was
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: showing blowing up and showing him on my phone he
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: goes that's that is nuts i go it's right down
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: there daniel it's right down there you know because i
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: don't know how long he goes in there really but
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: i've been in there a lot and and that's not
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: even the freakiest thing that's not still not the freakiest
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: thing um i took a Four consecutive shots of this
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: picture that it looks like, I call it King Midas.
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: It looks like a face that they painted. Somebody painted
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: a big 40 foot mural on the side of the
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: hill with even a crown looking thing, right? I always
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: call it King Midas. when I look at it. And
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: so I always take pictures of it. Right. And so
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: I took these four consecutive pictures. Boom, boom, boom, boom.
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: And when I go home, I'm looking at it and
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: it looks like a grizzly bear mama is feeding a
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: little bear a human foot. Or what is it? It
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: looks like a human foot and it looks like a
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: human leg, but it might even be too big for
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: a human foot and human leg. So it might be
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: something else, but you can see the bear and he's
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: got it in all four pictures. He's turning the foot
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: like our foot. And it's attached to a leg, to the,
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: to the tibia bone. You can see the end of
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: the tibia bone. And then there's straight lines. Like it's
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: coming out of a pair of pants, ripped pants, pair
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: of pants. I think it looks like a human foot
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: and leg and he's turning it in all four pictures.
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: And you can see the outline of a big grizzly
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: mama bear. Like, are grizzly bears hiding in these? They
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: have them in the caves there in SoCal. I don't
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: know why, but they're supposed to be gone. But I
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: got pictures of them, what I think looked like them,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: and they're good.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: So this place is extremely weird, man. It's like a, yeah,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: I don't know when you're stopping sometimes.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: People are going to complain.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: You keep cutting them off.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: You keep cutting them off. Let them talk. And I'm like,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: I got to interact with my guests.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: Sorry. That happens.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: I get it in the comments all the time now.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: You need to shut the hell up. It's like, all right.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: I'm okay. I'm having a blast. Thanks for putting me on.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: I'm having a blast. I want to tell people what
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: I'm seeing. And please believe me. Because I have a
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: lot of proof that goes with it. That's the only
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: reason why I'm showing it. Or if I just had
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: a one-off, I'd be like, nah, I have a lot
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: of one-offs that look crazy and I don't bring them up.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: But so after looking at this picture and wondering what
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: the hell that is for a month, right? I see
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: the bigger part of the picture and right above it
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: looks like a big Sasquatch head sticking out of a
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: cave like this. I go, whoa, was that a Sasquatch
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: head sticking out of a cave? And so he, and
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: it looks like he's holding a dead deer. So he's feeding.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: Whatever he's feeding, he's feeding something. I caught him feeding something. Bears.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: Sasquatch feeding bears? I have it on video, on picture.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: And so, and the phone was on motion, right? So
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: you can take those pictures and you can hit him
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: and you can see him talking. Whatever he was saying,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: you can see the mouth moving like he was giving
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: orders to whatever he was feeding. So the first picture,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: he's looking down like this. The second picture, he's still
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: looking down. And the third picture, he's coming up. He's
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: starting to pick his head up, right? Like this. And
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: fourth picture, you see him. He's looking one eye. He's
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: got this eye looking right at me, directly at me
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: with a big grin. And he's up there on the mountain,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: you know, but he's looking right at me because I'm
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: taking pictures of him. So he's looking at me. He
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: must have felt me or something, but he's got a
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: big grin and this eye shut. But when you look
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: on the other side of this eye, there's a, Big
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: spirit right here. Big face. You know, it's the cover
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: picture for my Facebook. If you see that face and
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: you look right next to it, there's a big ghost
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: face right next to him. So these things are probably
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: 20 feet tall. Yeah, they're probably 20 foot tall Sasquatch
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: up in there.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: Okay, so I'm going to ask a couple things here
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: if you don't mind. Or just make some observations. So
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: it looks like this place is like haunted?
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: But it's also like cryptids together with whatever entities, force entities, sprites, whatever.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: And it's all in this one place. And there's another
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 4: part of me that makes me think like, okay, if
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: it's like, I don't think it's fenced off because it's
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: some real estate development thing. I don't think that, man.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: I think they don't want you going in there.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: They don't want you crossing that fence. Don't do it, Jerry.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah. I got up behind that tree that
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: I said broke down. We don't really go off because
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: a lot of times I have my kids and my wife. And,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: you know, you can fall in caves. Obviously, it's cave ridden.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: You know, you could fall in a hole. That's why
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: I might be seeing them. They might be going, come
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: on over. Come on over here. Oh, you want to
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: get a little closer? But I'm old, but I always
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: gift them. I went right when we get there. I
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: have these hand signals. I go like this. And I
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: go like that, you know, I think this means hi.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: So I go all the way like this. And then
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: I go, you're going to eat over there. Over there, like, yeah,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: over there. And so I have this one video too.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: And it's upside down because every time I come up
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: with the video upside down, I investigate that picture. Because
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: I think those goofballs are doing something to it. That's
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: why it's upside down.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 4: You're frozen. And it's very interesting. As soon as you
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: mentioned the caves and them wanting you to come over,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: like you're frozen right now. I'm hearing you. but your
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 4: video is frozen.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm frozen right now. Let's just say it says
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: recording one or two. Hang on. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: But yeah, but you are frozen. Am I frozen to you?
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: No, no. I see you easy.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: You are completely frozen.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: I got enough juice. I've got a lot of power. Oh,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: I believe you.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: I believe you.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: There you go.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: That kind of thing happens sometimes. I'll be talking to
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 4: people about this stuff. And just as soon as you
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: mentioned that one thing that may be the truth, That's
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 4: what sets it off. Yeah.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: Oh, tell me about it. Yeah, exactly. Hey, I'm, you know,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: what frustrates me is when people say, I believe in
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: the woo, but then when the woo shows up, they
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: don't acknowledge it. You know, what about the woo-woos? There's,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: what about the woo-woo-woo? You know, how much woo is
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: going to be acceptable? You know, to all this, right?
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: And when you read all, you look at all the
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: stories and people aren't making stuff up so they can
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: be ridiculed. You know, people are just coming out with
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: it because we don't understand these things. stuff that's happening
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: to us you know and then for some reason you
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: can't hold it in it's eventually and it feels better
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: to bring it out anyway and let people say what
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: they want to say you know are you know you
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: don't see god god doesn't walk in the door jesus
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: don't walk in the door right but we all believe.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 4: In him yeah you don't see uh you don't see
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 4: radio signals either but.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: They're there yeah right and and um but you know
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: what god says god says when you look out and
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: see the ocean you see the mountains and you see
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: your kids and you see all these awesome things you're
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: supposed to be Those are non-real.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you saw me.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so we have faith that those are real, too.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: But we see these things. Like, I believe in the
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: Patty film. I believe it. Unless they did AI to
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: it and re-showed it to us, I don't know. But
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: when you look at what you're seeing there, I'm a
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: building inspector. 26 years. I'm not going to say, oh,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: I can see everything better than everybody else. But I'm
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: supposed to find out what's wrong.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: You're like a detective in a sense.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a detective. And also, I do good at
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: those IQ things where they say, they don't even say nothing.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: They just give you a picture.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 4: Oh, I'm not good at those.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I find the wrong one good. I'm really good
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: at finding the right one. No, not me. I don't drink.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: I don't never drink alcohol. I've never drank alcohol in
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: years and years and years. And I don't think they'll
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: mess with people that really drink alcohol. Because what are
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: you going to remember? What good is it going to do? Damn.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 4: That is a wild place, man. So what's in the
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: future for you, Jared?
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: What are you going to do with this? We're going
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: to keep going in there. And I want to bring
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: the pictures out where we can dissect them. You know,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: and if it shows us nothing, it's nothing. We can
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: agree on it or disagree. I don't care if, you know,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: people disagree on it. But I think, like, look at this. Like,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: if you've seen your kids were playing in the ocean, right,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: and you saw a blurry shark, you'd still say something, right?
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So then people would say, well, it's too blurry.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: It's too blurry. Well, if you tell me, hey, did
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: you see that picture of the Sasquatch that's blurry in
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: Dodger Stadium? Well, there's no Sasquatches in Daughters Stadium, so
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: I'm sure it's blurry nothing, right? But did you see
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: that picture, that blurry, what looked like a blurry Sasquatch
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: where Patty was filmed? There's a good possibility that's a Sasquatch, right?
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: It might be a Sasquatch because they're there.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 4: You need to get like some, whatever you can afford
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 4: it or whatever, or find it, get some really high-tech stuff.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 4: And you can zoom in super far. And like, because
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: of that stupid fence that's in the way, because... I was,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: I was, I'm not skeptical, but I'm like, you know,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 4: these pictures are not the best.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: But that video, whatever showed me that when I seen
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 4: the eyes change or whatever, it moved his eyes. It
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 4: freaked me out, dude. I had a cold sugar through
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 4: my body. What, what draws should they keep going out there?
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: Oh, we're going to, we were just there a couple
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: of days ago and we're going to, we're going to
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: keep going back. And you know what I think is
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: going on right now from all the video, I took
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: a lot of video a couple of days ago and
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking, I think I'm seeing babies, babies, babies, babies, babies.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: I think they had a lot of babies.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: I'm asking what draws you to keep going out there, Jerry?
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: I think that's what this place is. Oh, I don't know.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: For some reason, they drew me out there. It was
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: really easy, too. All I had to do was just
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: give in. And it was weird because I started seeing
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: stuff on TV, right? I would come home and I
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: would be watching the Sasquatch stuff. And I'd go, look,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: there's a Bigfoot right there. And no one had ever
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: seen it. No one's ever said it was there. And
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: I posted it a couple of days ago where it's
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: that one where they're in Portico. It's a non-to-knock they're
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: looking for in Portico or I forget what it is
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: in Alaska.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 4: It's hard to keep track of everything, buddy.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: There was a show and they're looking for Sasquatch. well
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: you see it pop out above them on the show
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: you can see it it pops out and it goes
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: back and cloaks that's when i go oh shoot they
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: do cloak right and i took a video of it
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: and i and no one's ever saying anything about i'm
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: the only one's ever saying thing about it and it's
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: on my facebook you can see it you can see
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: the sasquatch poke out and go back Someone said that
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: the Nantanoc is a forest spirit, like a bear. When
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: you stop and blow it up, it looks like a
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: panda bear. The picture does.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 4: You've definitely made me a believer in what's going on
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 4: out there, man. If you feel like you're being drawn
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 4: out there, be very careful.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: I know I am. Go ahead and make sure. I'm
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: not a Christian, but.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 4: I know it's a big big thing for a lot
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 4: of people make sure that you do i don't know
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 4: what kind of christian you are but whatever it is
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 4: say your prayers or whatever it is when you got
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 4: i believe in god too man i'm just not.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: A christian definitely dude it's a church i won't take
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: my kids there i won't take my little kids or
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: i will not put them in daycare.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah but at the same time whatever it is that
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 4: you're you know full prayer before you go in the
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 4: woods and yeah the protection of god with you or you.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: Want you want to hear when they use my eyes Yeah.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, sure.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: Okay. And so this, I'm, I'm, cause this stuff just happened.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: It happened. And I have to admit that it happened
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: to myself, you know, and be true with myself and
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: then start, I'm, I'm told a bunch here on your show.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to open up more and more and be
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 3: able to tell what I know, but it's not that easy. And,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: and so, yeah, same company, that same outfit in Carlsbad
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: where I seen the foot. Well, they moved on to,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: what is that mountain off the 101 freeway? Gore Hills.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: Big mountain on the freeway. Big sucker. Way up there
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: on the Gore Hills on the 101 freeway. And we
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: were doing another pad right there. You know, they were
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: going to pour 300 yards for 100 units. And they
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: called me in for the rebar inspection. So I go
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: down there to the rebar inspection. And I'm just like
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: this the whole time looking up this hill. What in
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: the hell? Drawn, drawn, drawn to it, drawn to it.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: So I go down to Big Five and I get
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: a telescope and some other stuff. And I got it
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: sitting out there on the hood of my truck. And
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 3: I'm scoping this mountain, right? And they're all, what are
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: you doing, man? I go, something's up there. And they're all,
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: nothing's up there, man. Leave it alone. I go, no,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to leave it alone because something's up there.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: So I keep doing it, keep doing it. And then
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: I go home. And man, all day, all damn day,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: I got to go there the next day for the
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: concrete pours. And it wouldn't get off my mind. So
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: I go there the next day and same thing. Picture
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: everyone's got their back to the mountain looking at the
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: concrete floor, right? Like 50 people lined up and I'm
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: the only one turned around. I'm supposed to be looking,
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: only one looking at the concrete.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 4: They can look wherever they want. It's the opposite of
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 4: what it should be.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: Okay. So I'm staring up this hill and staring up there,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: staring up there. Why is something up there? Why is
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: something up there? I don't know. So I go get
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: gas and the gas station's on the other side of
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: the freeway on the bottom of the hill, the base
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: of the hill. So I'm pumping gas and I'm sitting
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: there and I'm looking up there, looking up there, like
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: just through my window. And then here they come.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: Two black bodies, head to toe black. I guess they
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: could have been twins, twin brothers, I guess. I'm a twin,
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: you know, and I think they could have been twin brothers.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: And they were together and they walked in front of
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: a big rock right in front of there. And just
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: like we're looking down. And then you couldn't see no blue,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: no hiking colors, green. You couldn't see nothing. It was
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 3: just solid black and two black body images. And I'm like,
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: what in the heck is going on? And I'm like,
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: how did I just manifest two Bigfoots in my brain?
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: And I'm looking at them. What am I looking at?
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: I don't even know what the hell is going on
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: right now. I'm just gone. And so I left there
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: and I'm trying to film and drive with one hand
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: and film up there with almost crashed and everything. Right.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: And then that's 100 miles away, that job. And the
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: next day I told my wife, come on, we're going
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: to go. back to this mountain and look. And that's
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: the first time I ever took steps toward looking for
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: Sasquatch or anything. Right. And when I, I finally said, okay,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: I'm going to look, look. And we would go back
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: there and I was just driving around that hill, driving
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: around that hill. We didn't see nothing. And when I
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: left there, I had this image in my head, burned
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: in my head of the dad walking down from the
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 3: top of the hill, walking downhill with his chest out
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: like this, like a bad-ass general would or something like that.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: And his hair, three inches tall hair and it's just
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 3: flowing in the wind. And he's just walking down the hill,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: like yelling at his kids. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Like I
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: yell at my little boys, right? Come on, get over here.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: Hurry up. We got to go. Right. And I was just,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: why did I, I didn't see it. I don't know
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: why this image is engraved in my head, why it's there.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: And then time went on for a long time, a
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: long time. And then I'm learning more and more and
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: more and more about what's going on. And I feel like,
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 3: It was probably coming through a portal up there. For
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: some reason, I think there's a portal at the top
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: of that mountain. And I think they're where they are.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: They've always been in one spot, so they don't move
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: for people. When people move and they come in and everything,
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: they keep their portal right where it's at because maybe
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: it has to be there is what I'm picking up.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: So how were they using your eyes? They were using
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: my eyes because they were going to come through. They
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 3: wanted to come through, and so he was probably using
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 3: my eyes for two days to make sure that it
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: was clear for him to come. And then the payoff,
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: the trade-off was he showed me those boys. Who's he?
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Jerry.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: The dad. Whatever picture I have, whatever image I have
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: that was the dad.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: Oh, so it was his sons that were gone.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: I think they all three came through, right? They all
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: three came through. But he was like, since you did
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: that here, look, that's what you want to see. There
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: they are.
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  Speaker 4: Right, so something's telling you, look up there, look up there,
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  Speaker 4: look up there. And then you go across the road there,
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  Speaker 4: and you can see it a little bit more of
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  Speaker 4: a distance. And then, all right, man.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well. It's out there. It's a big one.
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  Speaker 4: All right, Jerry.
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  Speaker 3: But these are things that we need to know if
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  Speaker 3: they're doing these things, right? And if they are using
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: some people for different things. Yep.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah we do that as humans you know this guy's
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  Speaker 4: short he can reach down there the tall guy reaches
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  Speaker 4: up on the top that's everyone has their little place
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  Speaker 4: in the universe jerry uh thank you so much for
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  Speaker 4: coming on man this was this has been uh eye-opening
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  Speaker 4: differently because you were showing me all these pictures i
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 4: was like what is he showing me and it was
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 4: so all over the place and you kind of zoomed
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  Speaker 4: in like basically telling me i don't know what the
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 4: hell it is dude but this is what it is
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  Speaker 4: this is what i saw And that little video there,
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  Speaker 4: whatever that was, that one's going to be in my
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 4: purview for quite a while. I'm going to look at
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 4: that for quite a bit now. I'm going to download that, Joe.
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  Speaker 3: Look at those videos. If you need any video, look
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  Speaker 3: at it good.
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  Speaker 4: You'll see a lot of crazy shit. Jerry, so where
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 4: can people look at your stuff, man? What's the future
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 4: plans for you? Are you going to do some kind
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 4: of show? What's on the horizon?
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  Speaker 3: We tried to retire... Last year, we sold our house
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 3: in Canyon Lake and we took off to Arkansas and
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: we were goofing around there in Arkansas. And then all
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 3: of a sudden, my business here that I left working
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 3: got super busy in December. So we came back out
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  Speaker 3: here to California again to do this, finish these jobs.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: We're going to go back to Arkansas again and we're
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: going to go to Black Star Canyon as many times
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  Speaker 3: as we can while we're here. All right, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: While you're over that way, go ahead and make sure
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  Speaker 4: when you're over that way, Arkansas, and it's quite a
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 4: way still, but work your way up to the LBL
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  Speaker 4: up there. I'd love to see what you can see
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  Speaker 4: up there. Yeah, yeah. With the way you see things
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  Speaker 4: and the way you look at things, I think it
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  Speaker 4: would be quite... No pun intended, eye-opening.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly right. The house we rented in Arkansas, because
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: we rented a house on the lake in Arkansas, like
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: a timeshare. Or not a timeshare, but an Airbnb. Yeah,
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: at least for one year. And we were in the woods,
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: and we got vibed out of that place by something
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: that vibed us out. I mean, I don't think he
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  Speaker 3: did it on purpose. I just think that they got
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: those big heads, those big conical dome heads, right? And
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: they have this sensory right, then if you're in the wheelhouse, close.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: I think he was just outside where he was supposed
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: to be watching for them to come down and drink water. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that's what I get. He broke the windshield in my
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: truck while we were standing there. We were standing right
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: there and all of a sudden the window in my
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 3: truck broke. Bam! A rock was thrown at it? No,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 3: we couldn't find the projectile. We couldn't find nothing. Nothing.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 3: It's just weird. We just started a fire in the house.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 3: We rented right behind the house where there was a
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 3: fire pit, but it's still like the woods are right there.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: So we were in the woods and we just started
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 3: a fire and it just got dark. And my truck
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: was parked a good 60 feet away with the front
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 3: doors open. So we could hear the music, you know,
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 3: the back doors were shut. And, uh, from the side
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 3: of the woods, there was, there was deep, deep woods.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 3: Cause the other side would be my house. Uh, that
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 3: back window just shattered. Bam. Like that just shattered. And
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: it didn't come from the fire because that's too far away, right?
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: And we would have known because something like that could
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 3: have killed us, me or my kids or my wife,
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: coming out of the fire. So it had nothing to
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 3: do with the fire. And the cops came the next day.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: I left it sitting there. And they looked at everything.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: They looked through my truck. They couldn't find a bullet
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: or nothing. They don't know what happened, what it was.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: But it shattered that window in my truck, my new truck.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: And then another thing happened. My wife was walking and
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: she was lifting up her hands. She was just getting
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: ready to say, thank you, God. Right. Because she was
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: looking where she was at. She was happy. She was
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: just getting ready to say, thank you, God. And a
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: rock or something hit her in the hand.
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  Speaker 4: I'm telling you. I'm telling you, man. I'm going to
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 4: connect you with my buddy, Jim, from the Night's Watch.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 4: He's a very devout Christian. He thinks these things are
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 4: a little bit more to what you might think they are.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 4: We have to be careful, man. Be careful. There's many
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 4: different types of them, and I think you're running into
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 4: things that you just be careful, okay?
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 3: I got you. All right, buddy. I appreciate you.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 4: Thank you so much. I appreciate you too, buddy. Thank
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 4: you so much for coming by and talking with me today, man.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 4: I appreciate it so much.
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  Speaker 3: Anytime, buddy. Anytime. All right. Have a good one. Bye.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 4: All right, man. We are the eye. We are aware.
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  Speaker 4: Love you all.
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  Speaker 3: Eye of Jupiter. All right, end recording.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 4: Hold on. Sorry, Jerry.