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TheDocNCarolynPodcast.com Episode 122 · TheDocNCarolynPodcast

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  SPEAKER_06: Episode 122 of the Doc and Carolyn Podcast.
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  SPEAKER_06: Hello, welcome to the show.
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  SPEAKER_04: Welcome back.
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  SPEAKER_06: Hi, honey.
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  SPEAKER_04: Hi.
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  SPEAKER_06: I want to talk about last week's show.
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  SPEAKER_06: If you missed it, uh I there was a fart, uh yes, F-A-R-T on the show.
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  SPEAKER_06: And I want it to be communicated to you that that was not done for shock.
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  SPEAKER_06: That was not done to entertain.
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  SPEAKER_06: That was to illustrate the reality of policing.
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  SPEAKER_06: That really happened, and who knew?
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  SPEAKER_06: There was no training.
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  SPEAKER_06: Herb Hood was our defensive tactics.
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  SPEAKER_04: Don't push that off on Herb.
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  SPEAKER_06: Thankfully, you you tell me this.
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  SPEAKER_06: And it stuck with me all this, all this time.
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  SPEAKER_06: It really, really, really stuck out because it was one of those surreal, unbelievable moments.
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  SPEAKER_06: And you can go back and listen to the to the uh previous show and hear what I'm talking about.
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  SPEAKER_06: But and I'll just tell you, there was a stabbing.
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  SPEAKER_06: I get assigned to the body, which is common police procedure.
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  SPEAKER_06: If there is a homicide, you have to have a chain of custody.
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  SPEAKER_06: The body is part of that chain.
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  SPEAKER_06: I was assigned to stay in a small room with the uh body of the deceased of the deceased, and it he farted.
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  SPEAKER_06: How do you prepare mentally for something like that?
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  SPEAKER_06: I mean, people, I I was uncomfortable.
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  SPEAKER_06: I don't like going to funerals.
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  SPEAKER_06: I'm not sure.
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  SPEAKER_06: But nobody goes down in the mortuary.
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  SPEAKER_04: You never heard anybody saying, Yeah, we're going to a funeral.
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  SPEAKER_06: No, no, I'm not saying that.
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  SPEAKER_06: What I'm saying is people, you know, you don't even then, that's a sterile environment.
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  SPEAKER_06: You're in the, you know, the deceased is in the casket.
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  SPEAKER_04: And that's prepared for you to see.
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  SPEAKER_06: Nobody wants to go to the back room, but to be in a room and then to have that flatulence, just let go.
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  SPEAKER_06: And that's and that's clinical.
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  SPEAKER_06: You told me that's not uncommon.
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  SPEAKER_04: No, it's not uncommon at all.
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  SPEAKER_06: I wanted to share it.
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  SPEAKER_06: It was part of a manuscript.
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  SPEAKER_06: I wrote a whole manuscript uh with a bunch of police stories in it.
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  SPEAKER_06: And that's one, in fact, that was one of the first ones.
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  SPEAKER_06: And again, just to communicate the humanity and the unpredictability and the nonsense and the craziness and flatulence of a tour of duty on the police department, you should know that stuff.
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  SPEAKER_06: And so there you go.
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  SPEAKER_06: I am fascinated by the fact that you you came home from uh you were doing urgent care, and I said, Well, how was your day?
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  SPEAKER_06: And we're chit-chatting about it, and you say, uh, you know, pretty casually, uh, you had something and then you had something else, and then you said, Yeah, I had a pretty good laceration.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yes, I get those quite often.
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  SPEAKER_06: And so it's it's amazing.
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  SPEAKER_04: Can I just say I get those?
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  SPEAKER_04: And I always ask people what happened, and every single time it's I was in a hurry, and really myself included, I jacked up my thumb twice, the same thumb.
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  SPEAKER_06: And I'm just gonna tell you something.
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  SPEAKER_06: You're you aren't a surgeon.
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  SPEAKER_06: I get that.
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  SPEAKER_06: You are a trained nurse practitioner and you've done emergency room work and you're an exquisite urgent care provider.
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  SPEAKER_06: I know this for a fact, but you also your knife skills are not the best.
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  SPEAKER_04: I'm just gonna I just It wasn't a knife, it was a potato peeler.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, vegetable peeler, potato peeler.
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  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_04: That you handle Well, I was trying to peel the papaya, and it's ginormous and it just slipped off.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_04: And before that, like I guess about a week before, I was trying to put that shelf together and I jabbed it with the screwdriver.
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  SPEAKER_06: I was I was in there for that one.
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  SPEAKER_04: So my thumb was already purple.
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  SPEAKER_06: Well, well, I didn't get into this to talk about your knife work, which we'll get to some classes.
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  SPEAKER_06: Uh I was I was impressed by the fact that you always you sew people up, and that is amazing to me.
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  SPEAKER_06: That's amazing.
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  SPEAKER_04: I do sew people up.
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  SPEAKER_06: And you're so and you're so matter-of-fact about it.
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  SPEAKER_06: You know, you you it's just part of my job.
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  SPEAKER_06: You know, you know how you are about anybody that knows uh C knows about her phobia.
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  SPEAKER_06: You have a you have a uh a secret phobia.
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  SPEAKER_06: Look at you.
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  SPEAKER_06: If you could just see her face, she she just thought about it.
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  SPEAKER_06: She closed her eyes and started grinding her teeth.
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  SPEAKER_04: My teeth just started hurting.
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  SPEAKER_04: What is that?
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  SPEAKER_04: I have no idea.
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  SPEAKER_04: Your phobia, your problem is cotton balls, and it's not all cotton balls, it's the ones in the medicine bottles.
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  SPEAKER_06: I don't know and so you take uh like the cap off a bottle of Excedrin and there's and that cotton in there, and and you literally really freak out about that.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I can't stand to touch it.
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  SPEAKER_06: I'm that way with you sewing.
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  SPEAKER_06: I mean, you're like, I can't.
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  SPEAKER_06: I'm not sewing you.
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  SPEAKER_06: I know, but that just the thought of and you know, I've gotten I've gotten staples before.
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  SPEAKER_06: I was in a car accident years ago, and um I got seven or eight staples in my scalp, right at my scalp line.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_06: And uh and then I got stitches on the other side.
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  SPEAKER_06: So I mean, I've been there and and the staples were much more appealing to me.
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  SPEAKER_06: I just really enjoyed those, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_06: In comparison.
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  SPEAKER_04: Remember when uh who enjoys staples?
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  SPEAKER_06: Remember when Tim Pappas was saying he had a had had a SWAT operation he wanted to go to, so he got a pair of pliers and start and pulled it, pulled him out of his head.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's a whole other story, but I want to continue the conversation about sugar.
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  SPEAKER_00: We've always been told that sugar has many negative effects, both for the body and mind.
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  SPEAKER_00: Weight gain, metabolic syndrome, type 2 diabetes, high blood pressure, and heart disease are among the major complications of chronic consumption of excessive sugar.
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  SPEAKER_00: But how's this addiction established?
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  SPEAKER_00: According to Dr.
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  SPEAKER_00: Robert Lustig, a pediatric endocrinologist who's best known for his work promoting anti-sugar diets, sugar, in the forms of sucrose and fructose is like poison due to its negative effects on the neurotransmitter systems of the body.
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  SPEAKER_00: This addiction can be explained as a cycle, perpetually becoming stronger and stronger every single time we ingest and consume sugar.
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  SPEAKER_00: When sugar is consumed into the body, blood sugar levels spike, releasing high amounts of opioids and dopamine in the brain, which gives you a tremendous satisfying sensation.
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  SPEAKER_00: This process is called reward.
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  SPEAKER_00: Meanwhile, acetylcholine levels, and that's another neurotransmitter, are diminished, a process which intervenes in tolerance.
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  SPEAKER_00: After this, high levels of insulin are produced by the pancreas to decrease your glycemic levels, which results in a rapid fall.
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  SPEAKER_00: This causes immediate fat storage by the cells to occur.
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  SPEAKER_00: The cycle continues with the craving for more sugar to replenish its loss, along with a displeasurable sensation.
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  SPEAKER_00: With time, your body will increase the amount of sugar you consume in order to increase the release of opioids and dopamine levels that are giving you that same satisfying sensation you had in the beginning.
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  SPEAKER_00: This whole cycle leads to compulsive eating and binging, making this addiction even more difficult to break.
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  SPEAKER_00: As stated before, chronic abuse of sugar is proven to lead to some pretty serious diseases.
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  SPEAKER_00: Type 2 diabetes is the best example of one of the negative side effects of this addiction.
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  SPEAKER_00: Consuming high amounts of sugar leads to massive production of insulin by the pancreas.
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  SPEAKER_00: After several years of over-consuming sugar and overproducing insulin, the pancreas begins its degenerative process, diminishing the insulin levels you produce.
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  SPEAKER_00: Due to this, higher and higher levels of glycemia presence lead to the appearance of type 2 diabetes and its complications.
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  SPEAKER_00: Normally, the liver turns sugar into fat, storing it.
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  SPEAKER_00: But with this condition, the excessive storage of sugar leads to a disease called fatty liver, which results in the dysfunction of every liver process.
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  SPEAKER_00: With time, high amounts of sugar in the bloodstream will affect the vascular system, leading to high blood pressure and heart disease.
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  SPEAKER_00: A common complication of diabetes is diabetic neuropathy, a condition that results in the damage of small blood vessels that nourish nerves, which leads to a series of symptomatology that can conclude with an amputation.
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  SPEAKER_00: But the complications of sugar addiction don't only affect the body, they also affect the mind.
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  SPEAKER_00: When high levels of blood sugar are stored by the cells, opioids and dopamine levels also fall, producing a severe sensation of fatigue and displeasure.
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  SPEAKER_00: This feeling can lead to abnormal behavior that can only be countered with the consumption of higher and higher levels of sugar.
• 8:45
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  SPEAKER_00: I have a sweet tooth.
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  SPEAKER_00: You do.
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  SPEAKER_06: But it's not a sweet tooth.
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  SPEAKER_06: You you you told me that my gut.
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  SPEAKER_06: You can eat so much sugar or consume it.
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  SPEAKER_06: In the last episode, I talked about how I discovered that high fructose corn syrup was bad for me.
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  SPEAKER_06: And um terrible for me.
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  SPEAKER_06: Oh yeah, and it's manufactured and it's they use they used it for a long time to fatten livestock, but it was causing it was causing cardiovascular disease in the cows.
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  SPEAKER_06: And so they feed it to them.
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  SPEAKER_06: So they started feeding it to humans because it didn't have the same restrictions.
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  SPEAKER_06: I mean, that that's that's true, and that information is crazy.
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  SPEAKER_06: That's crazy.
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  SPEAKER_04: I can't help but laugh about it because it's so ridiculous.
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  SPEAKER_06: It is so ridiculous.
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  SPEAKER_06: And why do we just go along?
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  SPEAKER_06: You're hearing this, we hear it, but we don't process it.
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  SPEAKER_06: And I'm the worst.
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  SPEAKER_06: I mean, I'm not I'm not saying anybody's doing that and I don't.
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  SPEAKER_06: I I I had the longest for the longest time, I just couldn't understand.
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  SPEAKER_06: I think I think here's what I think it was.
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  SPEAKER_06: I think when we go into the grocery store and we when we go into the places where we buy food, we can't imagine that somebody would be so sinister, die it would be so so diabolical as to put these products on a shelf for consumers to walk by and and unwittingly buy them and consume them, and they are poisoned.
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  SPEAKER_06: That just with the dyes and the synthetic produ with the synth with the synthetics that are a part of the processing.
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  SPEAKER_06: How do we how we I don't think I don't think we can process that?
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  SPEAKER_04: No, you have to I mean I certainly can't make wrap my mind around it because you know, starting the clinic I have to make myself charge people.
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  SPEAKER_04: Like I'm always telling everybody because you want everybody to be healthy, yes.
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  SPEAKER_04: I just want I just want to help everybody and I I hate that I mean I have to make a living, so I have to charge people to keep it going, but I you know, I just want to help everybody.
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  SPEAKER_06: Well you posted the other day you you make breakfast for for us every single morning.
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  SPEAKER_06: It's uh a pro protein, we have fruit, avocado for the fat, um, we and this buckwheat toast.
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  SPEAKER_06: It's uh something that we order off of uh offline.
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  SPEAKER_06: Simple needs bread.
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  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, simple needs.
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  SPEAKER_06: And and you posted what you ate, and people started asking you on this Facebook page, hey, what about this?
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  SPEAKER_06: Where can I get that bread?
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  SPEAKER_06: And and people ask you all the time uh you know questions about their own health.
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  SPEAKER_06: And you've actually, I know, you know, in in and it's uh I mean I don't want to open this up.
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  SPEAKER_06: Don't start calling and emailing and saying, I want some free health care.
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  SPEAKER_06: That that isn't that is and I don't and I wouldn't blame you if you did, but the bottom line is you have coached several people without cost and just and you were very generous with your Yeah, before I started the clinic, I I did.
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  SPEAKER_04: I mean anybody who I can't say anybody, my family and friends and yeah that well first they would make fun of me about my changes that I made.
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  SPEAKER_04: Really?
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  SPEAKER_04: But then when you know they weren't feeling well and had questions, I'm who they called.
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  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, and and that's where I was going with it, that you're very generous about that.
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  SPEAKER_06: Even on that thread where you posted what we had for breakfast, people are saying, Well, where can I get the bread?
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  SPEAKER_06: Hey, can you send me the link?
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  SPEAKER_06: And you're just very generous with your knowledge, and I think that uh that's exemplary.
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  SPEAKER_04: Well, I do care about people, despite the fact that, you know, sometimes I'm mean.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_01: Copy that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to this Kingdom Minute with your host, Kimberly Blakes on the Doc and Carolyn podcast.
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  SPEAKER_01: You don't have to be sad because everybody else is sad.
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  SPEAKER_01: Today, this is the day that the Lord has made, and I will continually rejoice and be glad in it.
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  SPEAKER_01: You can be glad, you can be happy, you can be fulfilled.
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  SPEAKER_01: Everything in your life is going right.
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  SPEAKER_01: You live from the in from the inside, from the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we are just basically living our insides out.
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  SPEAKER_01: Whatever you see in your life is a result of what you believe deep down.
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  SPEAKER_01: Do what the Bible says.
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  SPEAKER_01: Renew your mind to the word of God, renew your mind to the promises of God, and live from that paradigm.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for tuning in to this Kingdom Minute with your host, Kimberly Blakes, on the Doc and Carolyn podcast.
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  SPEAKER_01: You can find me on Facebook at Kimberly Blakes, and I also have a podcast called The Faith Frame Perspective.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'll see you guys there.
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  SPEAKER_06: On the sugar thing, why isn't that more common knowledge?
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  SPEAKER_06: Or maybe it is.
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  SPEAKER_06: I know it's being discussed more now since RFK is in, but why isn't it more common?
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  SPEAKER_04: Well, not yes, it is being discussed a lot, thanks to RFK, God bless him.
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  SPEAKER_04: But you have people who will argue about it and tell you you're crazy and that you're a quack and all kinds of things.
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  SPEAKER_06: We struggled with that this week about information that's available.
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  SPEAKER_06: What is it that's that's making people resist information that is being given freely?
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  SPEAKER_06: And why are I mean it really is perplexing?
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  SPEAKER_06: I can't I can't imagine why if you're telling people the pro the the ultra-processed foods, the the seed oils, that stuff is horrible for you.
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  SPEAKER_06: It's causing we're the we're the sickest country, the fattest country.
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  SPEAKER_06: The the statistics bear this out.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_06: Why are people resistant?
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  SPEAKER_06: Why fight?
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  SPEAKER_06: Why fight that thing?
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  SPEAKER_06: And you know that you feel like crap, you know that you're and I can I can I can I'm a testament to that.
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  SPEAKER_06: Why are why were we so reluctant just to accept the fact that maybe the the the food manufacturers and the and the and the marketing and the advertising is not being honest about the health benefits of this?
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  SPEAKER_06: Why why are we like that?
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  SPEAKER_04: Because we're addicted.
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  SPEAKER_06: Okay, that and that's and that's what's being talked about.
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  SPEAKER_06: So being so my sweet tooth, what what we call what I grew up calling a a sweet tooth, you explained to me that this is actually the bacteria in your stomach over time.
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  SPEAKER_06: Yes, they this bacteria develops an appetite for sugar.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_04: You have a gut brain axis.
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  SPEAKER_04: Your gut and your brain are talking to each other all the time.
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  SPEAKER_06: That's amazing.
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  SPEAKER_06: And so it's chem, this is a chemical conversation.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_06: Or are they because I hear talking sometimes at night and when I'm you know, it's very faint.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_04: Not that kind.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_06: And it is coming.
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  SPEAKER_06: Okay, thank you.
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  SPEAKER_06: Um, so there's so there is communication between your gut bacteria, your gut biome, is that what you call it?
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  SPEAKER_04: Your microbiome.
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  SPEAKER_06: Your microbiome in your brain.
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  SPEAKER_06: So that sweet tooth, when you feel like when when I would always feel like, man, I gotta, you know, I always want to go get a snack cake or whatever.
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  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, that was my the that bacteria calling for me to get that what it does is it impacts your hormones.
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  SPEAKER_04: And people think of hormones as testosterone and estrogen, and that's it.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_04: But you have a lot of hormones in your body.
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  SPEAKER_04: Insulin is a hormone.
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  SPEAKER_04: Vitamin D works like a hormone, but you have something called, I always say this wrong, it's ghrelin, and that signals your brain that you're hungry.
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  SPEAKER_04: You have leptin, which is your the hormone that tells you that you're full.
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  SPEAKER_04: And then your insulin.
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  SPEAKER_04: Those three things impact what you are um, you know, whether you're hungry or not.
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  SPEAKER_04: And that your gut bacteria impacts those hormones.
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  SPEAKER_06: So what's being discussed in in the piece we just heard, it's talking about how much sugar, it's hidden in everything in the American diet.
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  SPEAKER_06: I remember uh Mr.
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  SPEAKER_06: Toy is a good friend of ours.
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  SPEAKER_06: Mr.
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  SPEAKER_06: Toy owns um, used to own a restaurant near where we lived, and the man could just burn.
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  SPEAKER_06: He had the best Thai food ever.
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  SPEAKER_04: He did.
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  SPEAKER_06: And uh still does.
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  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_04: We just don't get to eat it.
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  SPEAKER_06: Right.
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  SPEAKER_06: Because he he packed up his restaurant and went from uh Cincinnati to uh to Lexington, Kentucky.
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  SPEAKER_06: But he and he called me the other day.
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  SPEAKER_06: This is he he's a wonderful friend of mine.
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  SPEAKER_06: I mean, we've been to each other's houses and bowling.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_06: We've been gone bowling and out to dinner and all this, and he called me actually from uh from Scandinavia, Sweden or Scandinavia, um, and you were you were there uh the other day.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_06: And so we had a nice chat.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_06: But anyway, when he left, when he left Cincinnati and and went to Kentucky with his, you know, with his restaurant and recipes and all that, I started hunting around for other Thai food to kind of replace it.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_06: And I was shocked at every restaurant, let's say, let's say four out of the five that I checked out trying to find, and I still we still do it here, yeah.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_06: Still looking for for food that can match this man's uh cooking.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_06: But the sweetness, the the amount of sugar that they're adding to this Thai food because they think Americans have a, you know, the and we do, we we just love sweet cooking.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_04: Well, we only eat at like two or three places anymore.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_04: But um, yeah, I try so hard to never forget my lunch because there's nothing that I want to eat around there, and that's one of the things that has so much sugar in it.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_06: I think I concluded on my own, and you, and I'm glad you're you're always here to to help me understand something that I uh kind of have a hypothesis about.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_06: Alcohol is mostly sugar.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_06: And drinking for me was kind of a cultural thing.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_06: It was a part of my family, it was part of our good times, it was part of our holidays and stuff.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_04: But that's how it's portrayed.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, well, you well that yeah, I was kind of going there that the marketing, that the that the hype about it does not live up to the reality.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_06: And and you know, for us that for those of us that drank uh and and and party and that's part of our blowing off steam or part of us relaxing, uh, alcohol is not is not a sinister thing.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_06: But but what I've wondered is if the sugar was was with the with the was the consumption of alcohol with the sugar in it part of my satisfying those bacteria in my gut.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_04: Possibly.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_06: I finally, you know, decided there there was a time where I I decided I'm not going to drink anymore.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_06: And and I stopped drinking, but I found myself wanting to to drink, but I think that was also connected to my desire for for an ongoing, um, a consistent delivery of sugar to my system.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_06: I really wonder about that.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, because you I mean, when you said you weren't gonna drink anymore, you just quit.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_04: What does teetotaler mean?
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_06: I don't know.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_06: I've I hear that all the time.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_04: That means you don't drink, right?
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_06: I think so.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_06: Maybe you drink tea instead of you to you're totally into tea.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_04: But anyway, I now with everything that I know about it, I just have because I used to have one drink when we'd go on the cruise.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_04: And I don't even want to do that anymore because I know how bad.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_06: Wait a minute now, but you used to you toss back some shots at you know.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_04: Now that was a long time ago.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_04: But I mean, you know, since I mean, since we've been married, I have just drank on the ship.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_06: Because I was drinking enough of the ball.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_04: One drink.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_06: So I get it.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_06: I just find the culture tries to press you into these boxes.
• 20:23
  SPEAKER_06: I think I did have the idea that that I couldn't have fun, that I couldn't um enjoy like going on this cruise, for example.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_06: And we and we just hit diamond level on the uh on on the Royal Caribbean cruise line, and that gives and you get free, four free drinks every day and that are up to fourteen dollars and over, and you just pay the overage if it's more than that.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_06: But that's the whole reason people cruise and want to reach the diamond level so they so they can get those free drinks.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_04: And we'll still get free drinks, just not alcohol.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, and and I I think my point is though that it's so embedded into the culture through marketing that drinking is a good time.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_06: That it's all that it's and and you can and I know for me, I couldn't imagine um going certain places or going out doing certain activities without alcohol.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_06: It just didn't make sense.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_06: It was like, why you know everybody drank, so you don't think about the consequences of it.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_06: You don't think about the real destruction.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_06: And the marketing just reinforces the idea that if I'm boating and I got some beers on the boat, it's gonna be good times.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_06: If I go here, you know, if I if I mean on the beach, every you know, you see.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_06: No.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_04: They don't show the car accidents, they don't show the family who is destroyed from it, they don't show any of those things.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_06: And the health and the health involved too.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_06: So um but I've often wondered about that in the stories that and and here's here's what I wish didn't happen.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_06: We glorify it, at least in my in my family, like all these stories I heard about my my my grandfather and uh and I talked about this a little bit last show, but um just that was part of being a man.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_06: That really was part of uh your rite of passage to certain to turn 21 and to go to the bar with your friends or to go buy some liquor and whatever you do it.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_06: And um I wish it wasn't that way because the reality is it's terrible for you.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_06: It tastes, you know, I don't I don't know if you drank ever for the taste, but there's certain liquors that I like or certain alcohol that I love to drink, like wine.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_06: I like the good wine, but the bottom line is none of it is really good for you.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_06: And regardless of how good it tastes, it has a negative impact on it.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_04: And that whole one glass of red wine a night is good for your heart is trash.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_04: It's not, it's been debunked.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_06: That was that was paid for by the wine manufacturer.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_06: So um, but anyway, it's been it's been great for me.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_06: And and what happened recently, I just I just want to just remind um you of what a wonderful impact you've had on kind of what I've been doing lately because once I started to eat cleaner, I started to get energy that I didn't know.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_06: I just didn't get it.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_06: I I think, and I'm not sure how you can how you can communicate it to people without experiencing it.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_06: Because eating clean, I used to think that people, I used to think that people that do what we're doing, how we eat and how we exercise and the way we live.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_06: I know, I mean freaking maniacs, crazies.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_06: I really did.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_06: I I really thought, I really had the impression they were that you were living this sterile, this boring, this unfun existence.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_06: What do you mean you can't have you're not gonna eat any cake?
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_06: What is wrong with that?
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_04: Listen, I can still eat bacon.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_04: That's all that matters.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_06: You gotta draw the line.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_06: Here's what's funny, and I and and this is so exciting for me that I had an image of what living like this was going to be.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_06: Because I always kind of wanted to, and it was we I was in church one time, and this uh teaching uh pastor was talking about being incongruent and was what that does to your mind and your and your life.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_06: Being incongruent means I really want to get in shape.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_06: When you're eating a donut and you constantly talk about being in shape and changing your diet and and and enhancing your lifestyle, at the time you're eating that donut after that commitment and that desire to do it, that creates an incongruency in your life.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_06: And and that and that separation between what you say you want and what you say you desire versus your behavior, it creates confusion and chaos in your mind.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_04: And um and in your body, because your your mind has so much power over your body, and you're thinking, Yeah, you know, I want to be in shape, I want to be healthy, but then you're feeding your body all the trash.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, so the programming and the marketing is completely the opposite of that.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_06: What what you're doing in functional integrative medicine is getting away from that traditional model where, okay, I got an ailment, here's a pill for that, then you got to deal with the sound, with the side effects and all that stuff.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_06: Right.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_06: Um, but here's but here's what I found.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_06: This is my personal thing.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_06: Since I started shadowing you and your functional medicine journey, first thing that happened is starting to eat clean.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_06: Yes.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_06: So we started um getting rid of fast food and that stuff.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_06: And what I found, and and remember, this is the guy that said, How do you not eat fast food?
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_04: I don't what am I gonna eat?
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_06: I really didn't get it.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_06: How do you do that?
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_06: But we made a delivery.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_06: Well, for well, no, the first thing we did is start choosing better restaurants.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_06: We start we started eating at True Food Kitchen.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_06: Yes, and there is another we went to um the olive oil.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_06: The olive oil, and they don't do the seed oils.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_06: True Kitchen has a bunch of organic and yeah, non-gluten options.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_04: And um um the olive oil has some organic things too.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, yes, and they don't use seed oils and so we started there.
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_06: Uh that we started eating at at restaurants that that cooked without the poison.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_06: That was our first thing.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_06: So we started adding that into the diet and we started weaning away from from fast food.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_04: And we learned that just because a restaurant is expensive does not mean that they're using good ingredients.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, and and so when we were eating at the two restaurants that we found that were uh using good ingredients, we you know, we wanted to kind of explore the food scene here and we were going to different restaurants, but of course we ask the waiter, okay, yeah, this uh you know hundred dollar steak, what are you cooking it in?
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_06: And we found they were cooking real cheap oils.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_06: It was it was really a little sad.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_04: It was sad.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_04: So spending more money is not a it was a little bit infuriating, actually.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, and and we've even talked about getting uh developing a guide that will show who's using seed oils, who's using uh you know inferior ingredients in their fine dining, you know.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_06: Eating a little bit cleaner through the restaurants, we started to slowly but surely at some point you started cooking breakfast every day.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_06: We're not eating out as much, but when we do, we made good choices, then you start cooking at home and you're and you're making these big, beautiful, balanced breakfasts with with with all good stuff.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_06: I could eat as much of that as I wanted.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_06: And and what I found was eating cleaner and eating better, instead of feeling deprived and feeling hungry and feeling like, oh, what am I on this sucky diet for?
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_06: And I hate it, it ended up giving me energy.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_06: Now let me tell you this story.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_06: This is uh and and Carolyn, you are my witness.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_06: I I hadn't been working out.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_06: This is uh let's let's go back maybe 12 months.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_06: I hadn't been working out very much.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_06: And uh just because we were moving, new environment, I'm trying to get used to it.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_06: I you know, I couldn't find a gym, I liked all this.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_06: So I got down on the floor and decided I'm gonna do five push-ups.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna start there.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna start with five, then I'm gonna move up to 10, I'll move up to 20, and then I'll do push-ups every day.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_06: And I was going to do it incrementally.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_06: And I did.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_06: I started with five, and I continue to eat clean all this time.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_06: You're making breakfast, and then I stopped eating all that crap I was eating uh throughout the day.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_06: And now, I mean, this is I I'm astonished at this, but I do 1200 push-ups a week.
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_04: And that was in a fairly short time.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_04: What was oh that I went to that you went from five to twelve hundred.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, and and and you know, you've heard before.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_06: If you listen to the show, I started making my bed.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_06: You know, I I just think it's so important.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_06: It sounds like such a goofy thing to say, and it's easily dismissed.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_06: But I read, uh not read, I saw a YouTube video of a commander, and he was a Navy SEAL commander, and he was giving the commencement address at West Point.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_06: And he said, as a part of his address, if you want to change the world, start by making your bed.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_06: And so I started doing that.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_06: And I was making it poorly at first.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_06: I get up in the morning and I make it and it looks sloppy and nasty because I didn't have the what I what I believe would have been a great blessing to be in the military.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_06: I just have so much respect.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_06: The people on this planet that I that I respect and and honor more than my dad, uh beginning, let's start with him, uh, and my uncles who were um veterans of Korea, who were veterans of World War II.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_06: They so they had that discipline to do it.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_06: I I wasn't blessed with the military experience.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_06: So when I started making my bed, I did make it, I made it consistently, and I made it poorly.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_06: But over time, I started making it better and better and better.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it looks great.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_06: And what was yeah, no, I take my time and I'm very proud of that.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_06: But what I started doing, so now I'm exercising, I'm making my bed in the morning.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_06: I'm getting up, I'm starting to exercise, I'm eating cleaner, which gave me energy.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_06: I went from five push-ups to now I do average uh 1200 a week, and I'll do four sets of 50 throughout the day.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_06: Um, and then you know, I have other uh strength and and conditioning exercises that I do, and we go out and we do uh the trail around here, we run the hills, and and the same for you.
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, you've you're a different person.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_06: You are a beast now.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_05: You no, you are no, you for compared to how you were for for real, compared to how you were.
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, you must know, you know, look at your face, you know.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_04: I do feel a lot better, and I do uh exercise a lot.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, you are running hills with me.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_04: Do you know how do you know when you go from zero exercise to running hills?
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, I guess that is a huge improvement.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, and um, so I fasted, and this will be the last point on this.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_06: I um I fasted yesterday.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_04: And is that your that was your first time?
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_06: No, I no.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_06: I all I I fasted for spiritual reasons.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_04: But I mean for your health reasons.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_06: Oh yeah, first time for for health reasons, yeah.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_06: And and when I say health reasons, I didn't need to do it, but I wanted to do it.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_06: I don't know.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_06: I think culture-wise, growing up, not eating was associated with sickness.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_06: If you don't eat, it's like, you know, always eat, eat, you gotta eat.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_06: You know, when you that was that was a that would that was what you did when you went to somebody.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_06: That's right.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_06: So the idea of not eating outside of a spiritual context never made sense.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_06: And my mom was like, you know, she one time I man, I when I first moved down to Houston and went back to visit Cincinnati, I picked up, I don't know, 30 pounds.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_06: I was eating this good barbecue down here in all the all the Houston and and Texas foods and all that.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_06: And I went back um to visit my mother, and she just, oh, you look so good, you're doing great, whatever.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_06: And around that same time, I moved to moved to Chicago from Houston to fulfill a contract for uh a radio station up there, and they put billboards up.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_06: There were billboards.
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_06: I've I told this story before, but they put billboards up, you know, welcome Doc Kilgore to Chicago and all this.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_06: And my first or second day on the air, I'm picking, you know, I'm getting phone calls in hey, the new DJ, you know, Chicago, you know, WBMX, Chicago, all that.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_06: Pick up the phone, hey WBMX, what's up?
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_05: Hey man, you that new DJ?
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_05: I was like, Yeah, yeah, it's me.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_05: What's up?
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_05: Doc Kilgore in the house.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_05: He said, Yeah, yeah.
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_05: He said, You that fat dude on that billboard, huh?
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_06: I was like, wow.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_06: I didn't think so.
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_04: Well, now when I look at myself a year ago, I'm like, holy smokes.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, um, so it's amazing to me.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_06: And I'm telling you, I'm astonished.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_06: I'm astonished at the fact that when I fasted, so I fast yesterday at um three o'clock, I stopped eating, three in the afternoon.
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_06: So, you know, you made your typical breakfast for us.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_06: And then I had uh, I think some green tea and I ate a lunch, you know, a healthy lunch.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_06: And then I stopped eating at three.
• 32:20
  SPEAKER_06: So I went all day.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_06: And then that night, and when I woke up the next morning, I felt so good.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_06: I couldn't even believe it.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_06: I I just I had so much energy, a mental clarity.
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_06: It was uh it was astonishing.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_06: I didn't expect that.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_06: And I've been hearing all of this uh teaching or videos and articles about intermittent fasting and why that's good for you.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_06: So from your perspective, and I'm sorry, I'm dominating this and you're the professional.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_06: It's okay.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_06: So but but fasting is uh is good for folks, huh?
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_04: It is good for you because it helps regulate your blood sugar so that you're not having spikes.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_04: So it's good for your liver, it's good for your insulin levels, it's good for everything.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_04: I'm Carolyn Kilgore, founder and provider at TrueHealing Healthcare.net.
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_06: Why functional medicine?
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_04: Because you're more than just a list of symptoms.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_04: Traditional care often masks the problem, but functional medicine digs deeper to find the root cause.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_06: What makes true healing health care different?
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_04: We move away from the one size fits all approach.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_04: We look at your environment and your lifestyle to create a roadmap tailored specifically for you.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_06: What if someone really wants to make a change?
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_04: If you're tired of feeling fine and want to start feeling great, it's about proactive wellness, not just reactive treatment.
• 33:39
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• 33:41
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• 33:48
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• 33:52
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• 33:55
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• 34:02
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