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The Late Debate | 2 July · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Welcome Wait bait, Well, thanks for joining us again on
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  Speaker 1: the Late Debate. I'm James Macpherson with the Nika to
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  Speaker 1: Georgio and kayleb Bond, who is in fighting form tonight?
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  Speaker 2: You're ready to go go?
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  Speaker 3: I'm always in fighting for him. I'm I'm more surprised
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  Speaker 3: about you being Paul Murray's Uber driver.
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  Speaker 4: What's the what's the go here? Mate? He's using your
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  Speaker 4: chauffeur or what.
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  Speaker 1: I just love hanging out with Paul, so whenever he
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  Speaker 1: needs a ride, I picked him up driving wherever he
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  Speaker 1: needs to go.
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  Speaker 4: There you go a friendly chap.
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  Speaker 1: Unfortunately I was not his Uber driver. I presume he
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  Speaker 1: was talking about his time in the United States?
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  Speaker 4: Was he now Uber driver tonight?
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  Speaker 2: Tonight?
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  Speaker 1: Well, as soon as the show's done, I'll be driving
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  Speaker 1: Paul wherever he has to go.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's get.
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  Speaker 5: What an awkward place to leave him? I missed the contest.
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  Speaker 1: I caught the end of Paul Murray's show. I heard
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  Speaker 1: him say James and Uber. I missed the context on
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  Speaker 1: all right, here we go text forking out thousands of
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  Speaker 1: dollars so an influencer can tell us what incredible value
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  Speaker 1: for money the massively over budget, not yet working snowy
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  Speaker 1: two point oh project is. There's plenty of controversy from
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  Speaker 1: Canberra's mid Winter Ball, with some politicians using their outfits
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  Speaker 1: to promote their pet causes and the Treasurer criticized for
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  Speaker 1: not understanding the dress code.
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  Speaker 4: At or to say that again, James want to.
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  Speaker 2: Do that again?
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  Speaker 1: And why is the Trump administration considering a ban on
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  Speaker 1: pregnant women entering the United States. We'll get to all
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  Speaker 1: of that shortly, but first, should American style pickup trucks
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  Speaker 1: be banned from Australian roads? Critics say the Yank tanks
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  Speaker 1: are too large for public spaces, consume too much fuel,
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  Speaker 1: and in the event of an accident, a more deadly
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  Speaker 1: to other road users. R MIT lecturer in Urban and
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  Speaker 1: Environment policy, doctor Liam Davies is calling for them to
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  Speaker 1: be outlawed because and I quote, they aren't fit for
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  Speaker 1: purpose and no one needs one. People just want them. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I agree with everything he says. The cars do clog
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  Speaker 1: parking space as they guzzle fuel, and you'd certainly come
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  Speaker 1: off second best in a crash with one. But it's
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  Speaker 1: not the place of university academics to decide what we
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  Speaker 1: do and don't need. If I want to drive an
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  Speaker 1: oversized yank tank, I reserve the right to do so,
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  Speaker 1: and I shouldn't need permission from my betters at r
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  Speaker 1: MIT before I buy a vehicle.
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  Speaker 2: Deneka, I disagree.
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  Speaker 6: I think that they're absolutely hideous trucks. Why would we
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  Speaker 6: want them on our roads here? Have you seen the photos?
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  Speaker 6: Can we please bring up the slideshow of the photos
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  Speaker 6: of these vehicles right? Not only are they taking up lanes,
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  Speaker 6: so if I was driving next to it.
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  Speaker 5: Look at this right, they're literally.
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  Speaker 6: Over the lane, over the road, so if you were
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  Speaker 6: coming in the other direction, you could be possibly bamboozled by.
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  Speaker 5: This thing in the parking spaces.
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  Speaker 6: We know how tight the parking spaces are inner city
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  Speaker 6: Sydney for example.
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  Speaker 5: And look at this, they're taking up two bays.
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  Speaker 6: Why on earth would we want these big beasts here
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  Speaker 6: in Australia. I think there are an absolute hindrance on
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  Speaker 6: the road. I don't care if you want them out
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  Speaker 6: in the regions where there's a lot more land, where
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  Speaker 6: there's a lot more space, But in a city they
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  Speaker 6: are a nightmare.
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  Speaker 3: So when you drive your big yank tank up the
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  Speaker 3: Hume Highway, you reach a certain point and then the
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  Speaker 3: coppers pull you over and say, no, truck's here, sir.
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  Speaker 3: Is that what you're suggesting, because it have to be
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  Speaker 3: some sort of cut off if you're allowed to have
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  Speaker 3: them outside of the city, there's got to be some
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  Speaker 3: point at which you can no longer drive your cars.
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  Speaker 5: Suggest I don't know what you mean by that.
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  Speaker 6: I'm just saying in the city, I think they look
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  Speaker 6: they're just too big up too Bay is in.
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  Speaker 5: An area that's already very busy. But that's annoying.
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  Speaker 4: But should they be banned, as the academic says.
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  Speaker 6: I don't think that should be banned from our regional areas.
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  Speaker 6: I'm so I'm talking inside the inner So.
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  Speaker 3: My point is that you then have to decide that
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  Speaker 3: there is a border somewhere that says where these cars
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  Speaker 3: can and cannot.
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  Speaker 6: Be Caleb, I'm not going to go into the intricate
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  Speaker 6: nature of what the border should or should I'm not
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  Speaker 6: asking you where it. I'm just saying that pulling out
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  Speaker 6: the point that if they're in the inner city, they
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  Speaker 6: are a hindrance to drivers if you're coming in the
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  Speaker 6: other direction and they're over that over the line, don't
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  Speaker 6: you think that that's the problem.
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  Speaker 4: Well, of course it shouldn't be over the line.
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  Speaker 6: I'm just that because they're so big, these things, right,
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  Speaker 6: they are ram one thousand, five hundred meters about five
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  Speaker 6: point nine meters long and up to two point.
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  Speaker 3: Four seventeen one five hundred meters araum fifteen hundred.
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  Speaker 6: Excuse me, I'm so sorry. No, I'm not going to
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  Speaker 6: hear the end of this.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 5: You're going to absolutely have a win in evening.
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  Speaker 6: I can just tell already when I'm trying to try
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  Speaker 6: and make a valid point about these beasts here. But
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  Speaker 6: it's true they are a hindrance in a ready type
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  Speaker 6: parking spots.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so you would like them banned in certain parts
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  Speaker 3: of suburbia, correct, right? Okay, so we were if we're
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  Speaker 3: going to do that, we would have to decide that
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  Speaker 3: there's a certain point beyond which you cannot drive your car.
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  Speaker 3: That the problem here, as far as I can see,
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  Speaker 3: and I agree that they're inappropriate in some places. Shouldn't
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  Speaker 3: be taking up two parking spaces.
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  Speaker 4: We've got a dickhead problem, not a car problem. Right.
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  Speaker 3: So if you want to have you yank tank and
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  Speaker 3: drive you yank tank around, fine, by me. But you've
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  Speaker 3: just got to accept that there are certain places you
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  Speaker 3: can't park it because the parking spaces.
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  Speaker 4: Are too big. If everyone just did the right thing,
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  Speaker 4: there would be no problem.
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  Speaker 1: Well, if you have to take up two parking spaces,
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't you just pay the both meters?
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  Speaker 2: So it just costs you double right.
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  Speaker 3: Well, if you go to a supermarket, you're not paying
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  Speaker 3: for the car park.
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  Speaker 2: So always get a park at the supermarket.
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  Speaker 3: If you shouldn't take up two spaces because it's one
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  Speaker 3: parking space for one car, is that people shouldn't that.
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  Speaker 5: The problem with these cars is they can't fit in
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  Speaker 5: one bay they.
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  Speaker 3: Do take up there are obviously parking spaces where you
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  Speaker 3: can put them. In parking spaces where you cannot, so
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  Speaker 3: you simply don't take that car to places where you
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  Speaker 3: can't park.
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  Speaker 5: Then what's the point of having a vehicle?
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  Speaker 6: If you see your up to you, if it's your
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  Speaker 6: only vehicle that you've got, then what you say? No, Well,
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  Speaker 6: because you've got that, then this is what I mean.
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  Speaker 6: It gets very compolluted, it's very very comple. You can't
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  Speaker 6: take par in certain places because we don't have the instructure.
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  Speaker 6: But that's what I'm saying, but then, but there shouldn't
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  Speaker 6: it just be a ban then, so you want to make.
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  Speaker 5: To ban it.
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  Speaker 3: No, so you want to take the choice away from people.
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  Speaker 5: I think you don't have a choice. I think it
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  Speaker 5: should be banned.
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  Speaker 6: We don't have the infrastruy actually here to cater for
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  Speaker 6: these monstrosities.
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  Speaker 1: Rather than changing Danika's mind, we convinced it to go
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  Speaker 1: even harder.
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  Speaker 5: That's it.
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  Speaker 2: I know from certain areas to ban them completely.
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  Speaker 6: No, I said, from banning from I said, no, I
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  Speaker 6: don't don't. I'm I don't think it has a problem
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  Speaker 6: in the region. In the regions, you can park wherever
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  Speaker 6: the heck you want. No one cares. But I'm talking
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  Speaker 6: if you're taking I'm too, Bay inner City, it's a nightmare.
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  Speaker 1: I'm surprised that your argument is regarding parking spaces because
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  Speaker 1: I would have thought that's the least of the problems
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  Speaker 1: with these vehicas.
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  Speaker 5: Why fair I mentioned about them going over the other
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  Speaker 5: side of the road.
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  Speaker 1: I thought you'd argue the safety issues because I would
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  Speaker 1: be in favor That's what I said. I'd be in
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  Speaker 1: favor of special licenses for people who drive these things, because,
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  Speaker 1: let's face it, it's not.
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  Speaker 2: Your regular vehicle. They're a lot higher.
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  Speaker 1: Than most vehicles, so they are more difficult to drive,
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  Speaker 1: particularly when it comes to suburbia and you've got pedestrians, cyclists.
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  Speaker 1: I'd be in favor of a higher license qualification for them.
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  Speaker 4: Here we go, so we want more restriction, everyone wants.
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  Speaker 4: That's not a restriction, well it is. It's a restriction
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  Speaker 4: on your ability to know the restriction.
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  Speaker 1: It just means you've got to prove your ability before
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  Speaker 1: you're allowed to drive one of these things.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: But you can drive around a small truck without needing
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  Speaker 3: to go and get another license, So you'd have to
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  Speaker 3: include all of that as well, Like you can go
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  Speaker 3: down to any you know, car hire company and get
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  Speaker 3: a small truck to move your foot.
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  Speaker 1: A small truck is easier to drive than you know,
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  Speaker 1: one of these things.
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  Speaker 6: I feel like you're on the fence about these things.
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  Speaker 6: See we're going around in circles with these things tonight,
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  Speaker 6: because the problem is they are a risk on the road.
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  Speaker 2: But everything's a risk on the road then, but.
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  Speaker 6: Not if your vehicle is so big that it's it's
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  Speaker 6: heading into incoming traffic.
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  Speaker 2: Other people shouldn't drive straight into car.
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  Speaker 6: Do you not see the Well, so hang on a second.
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  Speaker 6: You're saying, if you are driving this thing, it's going
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  Speaker 6: over the middle line.
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  Speaker 5: Here we go. It is the responsibility of.
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  Speaker 6: People in the other direction to swerve and avoid.
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  Speaker 3: You.
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  Speaker 1: Can we go back to that photograph where he's clearly
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  Speaker 1: over the We can't go to the first one photographs
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  Speaker 1: he had more room on his left hand side.
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  Speaker 2: That's bad driving.
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  Speaker 5: But hang on a second. Can we just bring that
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  Speaker 5: photo back up?
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  Speaker 2: Please?
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  Speaker 6: No, we're going through the carousel here.
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  Speaker 5: We'll get the right room on the left, but not
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  Speaker 5: that much.
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  Speaker 2: We can't.
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  Speaker 5: We can't pause.
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  Speaker 6: He does have room on the point is I think
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  Speaker 6: if you look at that vision, it would be very tight,
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  Speaker 6: very tight. Even if he veers slightly over to his left,
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  Speaker 6: it would be very tight.
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  Speaker 5: Then to go into the look it looks to me.
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  Speaker 3: Like I souped up the wheel arches or something, in
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  Speaker 3: which case the car should be defected if.
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  Speaker 4: It can't stay in a normal lane.
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  Speaker 3: But these cars are imported into the country legally.
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  Speaker 4: There is no issue.
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  Speaker 3: That is taken with them at the point of importation,
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  Speaker 3: so they're taken to be a normal car that an
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  Speaker 3: average person can drive, and as far as I'm concident,
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  Speaker 3: should be left like that. I mean, if you want
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  Speaker 3: to talk about it's okay in the regions. You know,
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  Speaker 3: they have supermarkets in regional towns as well, where they
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  Speaker 3: also have car parks, so you're run into exactly the
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  Speaker 3: same problems there as you're doing.
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  Speaker 5: Quite a patch of grass and park park.
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  Speaker 3: And here we come to the problems. We're trying to
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  Speaker 3: restrict these things. Less government I think would be good.
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  Speaker 3: But Caleb, while Janika's driving around in her RAM fifteen to.
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  Speaker 4: The wind winter ball that James.
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  Speaker 3: McPherson is going to, I'm sure, I'm sure I'll be
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  Speaker 3: able to add something to it at the end of
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  Speaker 3: the night.
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  Speaker 4: What was it a few weeks ago.
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  Speaker 3: You were when you were away, Danika, Jim and Toniini
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  Speaker 3: was sitting in that chair and she made a reference
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  Speaker 3: to Pauline Nations one Hansome, so you know we all
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  Speaker 3: get shot.
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  Speaker 2: It's actually that chair.
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  Speaker 5: Shame it. I'd have a picture of your you with
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  Speaker 5: your helmet on hand.
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  Speaker 4: I'm never going to leave that down. Twenty eighteen. That
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  Speaker 4: photo was taking but resurfaced.
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  Speaker 3: If you didn't see it the other night, go back
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  Speaker 3: and watch was Monday or Tuesday Monday night. He'll be
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  Speaker 3: able to see me in an antique diver's helmet. And
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  Speaker 3: all right, let's talk about something a little more serious,
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  Speaker 3: shall we. Julia Gillard spends a lot of time in
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  Speaker 3: the UK now, in fact, I think she spends most
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  Speaker 3: of her time living over there. And just the other
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  Speaker 3: day she was giving a lecture at Manchester University and
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  Speaker 3: she was asked by a member of the audience about,
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  Speaker 3: of course, the changes that were made under her government
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  Speaker 3: to the Sex Discrimination Act. Now this has come back
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  Speaker 3: to the fore very recently because of course the Giggle
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  Speaker 3: versus Tickle case. The Sex Discrimination Act was amended in
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  Speaker 3: twenty thirteen to remove references to biological sex. So it
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  Speaker 3: then became about your gender identity. And this is part
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  Speaker 3: of what has been used to argue that a transgender
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  Speaker 3: woman that is a biological man is a legitimate woman
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  Speaker 3: under the eyes of the law.
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  Speaker 4: Now that happened under the Gillard government.
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  Speaker 3: Julia Gillard, first female Prime Minister, oversaw all of this,
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  Speaker 3: so it's become a bit of a bone of contention.
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  Speaker 4: Finally, Julia Gillard has addressed.
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  Speaker 3: What happened when she made those changes. She's given us
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  Speaker 3: her praises of how things look today, but I'm not
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  Speaker 3: sure I've really learned anything that I didn't know already.
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  Speaker 4: Take a listen.
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  Speaker 5: It was a different time.
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  Speaker 6: It wasn't something squarely before the Parliament at the time
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  Speaker 6: that the legislation was being amended.
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  Speaker 7: Now it sounds like she's a kind of trying to say, well,
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  Speaker 7: you know, it's ended up in a place that I
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  Speaker 7: didn't think it would end up in, But she's just
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  Speaker 7: not willing to go far enough to say.
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  Speaker 3: And I said, it must have been a month ago
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  Speaker 3: we were talking about this, because of course I think
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  Speaker 3: she was speaking at some book event in the UK
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  Speaker 3: and people rocked up with signs saying Julia Gillard, destroyer
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  Speaker 3: of women's rights. And I remember saying at the time,
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  Speaker 3: all she needs to do is come out and say one,
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  Speaker 3: when we amended the law, the transgender thing wasn't big
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  Speaker 3: like it is now, so I didn't foresee that we
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  Speaker 3: would end up in this position.
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  Speaker 4: And two, I'm very sorry.
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  Speaker 3: That we've ended up in this position. This is never
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  Speaker 3: what I intended. And she's kind of gone halfway there, like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the transgender thing wasn't the thing back then, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: so do you regret making the decision or not? I
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  Speaker 3: don't get why she can't go the whole hole.
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  Speaker 1: So before we unpack this whole thing, just sticking on
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  Speaker 1: that point, why do you think, because I've wondered about this,
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  Speaker 1: why is she not simply said as you have articulated,
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  Speaker 1: you know she should say? Is she being poorly advised?
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  Speaker 1: Does she think that people will blame her even if
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  Speaker 1: she if she admits wrongdoing? Or is she somehow enraptured
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  Speaker 1: with the trans movement and maybe fierce blowback from the
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  Speaker 1: LGBTQ community.
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  Speaker 4: I suspect the latter.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you reckon, Yeah, she doesn't want to get caught
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  Speaker 3: up in the argument. And Julia Gillard, to her credit,
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  Speaker 3: since leaving politics, has spent most of her time not
• 12:53
  Speaker 3: getting involved in politics. And I think she would be
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  Speaker 3: concerned about wading too far back into it and then
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  Speaker 3: opening up a can of worm that she can't regle
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  Speaker 3: out of. But you know, I just don't think it
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  Speaker 3: would be that hard for her to say. Look, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I understand that what I did at the time I
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  Speaker 3: thought was the right thing to do, but in hindsight
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  Speaker 3: it's caused down intended consequences, and I'm sorry for.
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  Speaker 1: The other problem, of course, is if she came out
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  Speaker 1: and said that she would be at war with the
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  Speaker 1: current Labor Party, Yeah, who have no desire at all
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  Speaker 1: to change these.
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  Speaker 6: Well, no, the current Labor Party still can't answer the
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  Speaker 6: very basic question of.
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  Speaker 5: What is a woman?
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  Speaker 6: It seems to absolutely confound every single MP. I thought
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  Speaker 6: her response today was so weak. It was kind of
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  Speaker 6: half in, half out. A lot of things have changed
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  Speaker 6: since then. Well what does that mean? You either want
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  Speaker 6: change or you don't want change. Don't sit on the
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  Speaker 6: fence when you profess to be the prime minister, a
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  Speaker 6: champion of misogyny, a champion of women's rights. But ever
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  Speaker 6: since Julia Gillard changed the Sex Discrimination Act, women's rights
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  Speaker 6: have been raised. I mean, the buck literally stops with her.
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  Speaker 6: She was the one who put pen to paper, and
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  Speaker 6: ever since then, we have seen biological men invade women's spaces.
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  Speaker 6: We have seen women like sal Grover hauled in front
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  Speaker 6: of courts for daring to challenge the very notion of
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  Speaker 6: basic biological sex, and then a court rules in her
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  Speaker 6: favor that yes, sex is interchangeable.
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  Speaker 5: It has been this flow.
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  Speaker 6: On effect ever since that law was changed. So you know,
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  Speaker 6: it's all well and good for Julia Gillard to now
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  Speaker 6: kind of go oh, I'm just going to sit on
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  Speaker 6: the fence. Well, no, you have done women in this
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  Speaker 6: country such a disservice, so spare me that you're a
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  Speaker 6: feminist nonsense.
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  Speaker 5: You are the exact opposite of what you preach to be.
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  Speaker 2: She's clearly hoping this issue will go away. She is
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  Speaker 2: away for the longest time.
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  Speaker 1: People would ask her what is a woman and questions
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: of that nature, and she would say, I'm not going
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: to get involved in these gotcha questions and she would
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: just batter away and people would move on. Now she's
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: finally decided I can't keep doing that because, primarily due
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: to Cell Grover, this has become such a massive issue.
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: Absolutely so everywhere she goes now she's asked about the
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: Sex Discrimination Act, and I feel like, again she's hoping
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: that that answer will be just enough to get her
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: off the hook and people will move on.
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: I don't think that's going to happen.
• 15:06
  Speaker 6: But the reality is it shouldn't even be an issue.
• 15:10
  Speaker 6: It's only become an issue because politicians have politicized the
• 15:15
  Speaker 6: issue across the country. It just into Allen's made it
• 15:17
  Speaker 6: a problem. I would say Julia Gillard has made it
• 15:20
  Speaker 6: a problem. Labor MPs have made it a problem. People
• 15:22
  Speaker 6: like Katie Gallagher, people who are not willing to admit
• 15:25
  Speaker 6: what a woman is.
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: They have made what was never.
• 15:30
  Speaker 6: Was always accepted as a biological fact something that.
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: It's just not.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: It's worth hearing for a moment from Michaylia Cash and
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: the Coalition's efforts to move emotion to have the Sex
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: Discrimination Act fixed.
• 15:44
  Speaker 8: I introduced into the Senate the Coalition's build to restore
• 15:48
  Speaker 8: common sense to the Sex Discrimination Act and define sex
• 15:52
  Speaker 8: it's biological girls of girls, women and women, boys of boys,
• 15:56
  Speaker 8: men and men. Do you know what Labor and the
• 15:58
  Speaker 8: Greens did. They killed it before it could even be debated.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: So there you go, Thanika.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: That's why Julia Gilllad doesn't want to come out and
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: say we made a mistake because effectively then she'll be
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: criticizing the Albanesi government.
• 16:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly, That's why she'd rather stay silent, which is
• 16:14
  Speaker 6: political shame always it's politic It's protecting the rights of
• 16:18
  Speaker 6: a very small percentage of the Australian population over the
• 16:21
  Speaker 6: majority of Australian women and little girls because it is
• 16:26
  Speaker 6: women that are having their rights are raised.
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: All right, let's move on.
• 16:30
  Speaker 6: Now, tell me you are desperate to sell a pup
• 16:33
  Speaker 6: without telling me you're desperate to sell a pup. You
• 16:35
  Speaker 6: know the Snowy Hydro two point zero scheme, Yes, the
• 16:38
  Speaker 6: one that's ten billion dollars over budget and about now
• 16:41
  Speaker 6: another two years overdue, an absolute disaster of a scheme.
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: Well, labor has.
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: Gotten so desperate they've hired a social media influenza to
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: go over to go down and have a look at
• 16:54
  Speaker 6: this project and try and sell it on social media.
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: Her name is Sarah Aubrey.
• 16:58
  Speaker 6: She's the voice actor behind the Electrify This social media pages.
• 17:03
  Speaker 6: She has done a video where she's described this is
• 17:06
  Speaker 6: a video described this project as an incredible value for
• 17:09
  Speaker 6: money after she was given one thousand dollars of taxpayers
• 17:13
  Speaker 6: money to produce YouTube and Instagram content on a three
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: day trip from.
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: The first to the third of June.
• 17:19
  Speaker 6: She was also given return flights Sydney to Wogga Wogger,
• 17:22
  Speaker 6: accommodation and meals. Now, would you be more interested in
• 17:28
  Speaker 6: Snowy Hydro after hearing this This thing's going to last
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: one hundred and fifty years and by twenty fifty this
• 17:36
  Speaker 6: will meet half of Australia's energy needs. Pretty amazing, right, Yeah,
• 17:40
  Speaker 6: what's pretty amazing is the stats. As I said, so,
• 17:43
  Speaker 6: it's ten billion dollars over budget, two years over due,
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: less than halfway complete, auditors don't know when this project
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: will be finished. It's now costing forty two billion dollars
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: in total. That's twenty one times more than we will
• 17:58
  Speaker 6: be told. So I'm not exactly sure how one could
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: possibly describe this as pretty amazing. Now, influencers are paid
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: every single day in Australia to go out and to
• 18:09
  Speaker 6: SPREUK products. It's the way a number of influencers have
• 18:12
  Speaker 6: made money, whether it be you know, makeup, hair, clothing products.
• 18:16
  Speaker 6: The point is hiring an influencer doesn't necessarily bother me.
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: It's hiring an influencer to sell a pup which has
• 18:24
  Speaker 6: been an absolute disgrace from the very beginning. And at
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: the same time our energy bills are going up. Nothing
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: is changing under this renewables only facad and so Labour's
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: first thought was to hire a social media influencer to
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: try and sell the thing.
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: It's the fact that it's done with tex pays money.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Now as you say that, there's no issue with a
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: person who is upfront about the fact that they are
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: spooking a sponsor to spook a sponsor. That's what advertising is.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: Advertiser pays a person then delivers product, whether that is
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: in an ad break or during a program, or on
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: social media or whatever. You know, people are not stupid.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: They know that an ad is an ad, though it
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: has to be declared as such. But it's the fact
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: that it's not a private business doing that because there
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: will within their arts to hawk their product. It's that
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: the government is paying to have an influencer or someone
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: else come and talk up an energy scheme. It's just
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: not necessary. Now, three grand sure to drop in the ocean.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: But why does it need to be spent in the
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: first place. What benefit has Australia derived from a woman
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: being paid three grand plus flights, plus meals, plus accommodation
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: to go and make a few videos about the snowy
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: hydro scheme. I mean, look, to be perfectly fair, I
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: didn't know she'd made the videos until I read about
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: it in the paper, So that may go to some
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: level of telling you how.
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: Effective they were. They certainly didn't turn up in my algorithm.
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: But what was the point? What have we derived from this? Nothing?
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: As far as ark, I think she.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Got about one hundred thousand followers on a social media
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: or something, which is not insignificant, not as many as
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Danique has got, but it's still good. My point is,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: if the snowy two point zero project is so great,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: then you shouldn't need some influence that we've never heard
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: of to try and tell it.
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but that's what Isn't it embarrassing that they've resorted
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: to that.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: The better use of money would be to produce a
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: video explaining to the public why it's ten billion dollars
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: over budget, why it's two years late, and then and sure,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: tell us but it's all going to be worth it,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: but explain what's actually going on, rather than having some
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: young person who specializes in TikTok or Instagram videos pretending
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: like they know all about this and they're explaining it
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: to the public who have a lot of genuine questions
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: about why this project is so off track.
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: I'm surprised they didn't get Chris Bowen or one of
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: the other labor MPs they've been doing all.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: Their little social media They need to get it.
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: Bring back the ghost, bring him back for this and
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: bringing back but we know that Labour loves a social
• 21:02
  Speaker 6: media video. At the moment, they're doing a lot of
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: different dances, a little you know, claps here, and they're
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: loving it. Why don't we just get Chris Bowen out
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: to snowy Hydro and get him doing a dance routine
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: on top of the mountain or something.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: A three thousand dollars for Mark Butler to never do
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: a social.
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: Mark Butler, Yeah, well he was with all the other day.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, yes, All right, So our political class all gathered
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: in Canberra last night for the mid winter all thank you, Caleb,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: and we'll show you some of the fashions in a moment.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: But before we get into that, you know the most
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: interesting part of this to me, it's to raise money
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: for charity.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Right. Are you aware of how much money they raised
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: last night?
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: How much?
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Fifty thousand dollars?
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Now, I thought, is that a bit on the low
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: side for our politicians who are being paid in excess
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: of two hundred thousand dollars and a lot more than
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: that if you've got ministerial duties.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Or so on.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: I would have thought, when you're all gathering together to
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: raise money for charity and the way the country is
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: being run at the moment, God knows charities need funding,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars sounds pretty small to me. A couple
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: of hundred people or more at the ball fifty grand.
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: So because I've never have you been to the Midwinter Ball?
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: I've been to the South Australian one, but not the can.
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: So how does it work? Does every MP make a donation.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: Or pay for your tickers?
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: Your pay for which would be quite expensive.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: But then the fundraising inside is through silent either silent
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: auction or public auction for you know, things like you
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: can have lunch with the Prime Minister or I think
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: one of the ones they auctioned last night was a
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: lunch at the Press Club with you know, four chief
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: political journos and stuff like that. The auction off artwork
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: and holidays and all that sort of stuff.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Right, But wouldn't you if you're going to a charity event? Right,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: so the reason you're there is we want to raise
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: money for charity. So wouldn't you think before you go,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: I'm going to donate five hundred bucks I'm going to
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: give a grand right and then you'd find a way
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: to do that. Or is this just it's for charity,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: but it's not really for charity. That's what they say
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: to make it palatable for our political class us to
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: go and have a night on the town while everyone
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: else is struggling to pay their power bill.
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'd say it's probably the latter, to be quite honest,
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: because what was everybody talking about today? They weren't talking
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: about how much funds were raised. Everyone was talking about
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: there wasn't much to talk about. Everyone was talking about
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: the fashion on the fields.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: They raised fifty grand along the way, so he's better
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: than raising zero dollars.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Not going to grudge fifty grand. I guess all right, Denik,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: you mentioned the fashion some of it. Here's an Ali's dress,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: which apparently she made herself.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: What do you think.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: I'm no fashion officionado, so I'm gonna get Caleb's opinion
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: on that.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: I didn't think it was too bad To be perfectly honest,
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure why you have to virtue signal about
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: the fact that you made it yourself. You know, Look,
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: look how good I am. I'm not buying fashion. I'm
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: going to say I actually think she did a reasonable job,
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: and certainly compared to what Georgie Purcell rock up in.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: Now, take a look at this.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: Georgie Purcell is an Animal Justice Party MP in Victoria.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: She's also the partner of Josh Burns Labor MP Federal
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: Labor MP.
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: Look at that.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: It says down the bottom there defund dog with a
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: cross behind the dog, presumably to mark the dogs are
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: being killed or something.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: I mean, calme on, you're right, it is.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: It is very aoc What was it the rich she
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: rocked up with one year for text? Yeah, text to
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: the Mett Gala or something like that.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: I mean, seriously, it's it's a.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: Black tie event, right, you don't turn up with political
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: slogans written on your dress.
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: And I've met Georgia Purcill.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: In fact, I debated her one night on Sky years
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: ago when I was still living in Melbourne about greyhound
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: racing and she's a perfectly lovely person to deal with.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: You know, she's better than that, I think, even though
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: we have very different ideas about these things, she's better.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Than you mentioned.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: It was a black tie event. So de Nika, here's
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: what Jim Chalmers wore. Did he misunderstand what black tie means?
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: That's Anthony Albanezi. I think we've got Jim Chalmers here.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: He was in a normal time, not a bow tie.
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: He was in a black beir. He was in a
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: black tie. I think he has well, I don't look.
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: I think he's misunderstood the assignment. It's a bit funeral
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: esque for a midwinter ball like I would be. I
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: think a bow tie would have been appropriate. But I'll
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: tell you the photo that caught my eye of the night.
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: How about this picture of the Teals? If we can
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: get the here they are Australia. Is the Champagne and
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: Caviat women of Australia. You've got a Legra Spender on
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: one end and you've got Zalie Stegel on the other.
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: And I thought, I wonder if they're on.
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: A recruitment drive there for Community Strong Australia.
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: Did they muddle all the Teals together and so that
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: Allegra and Zalie could pull a couple of strings?
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: Was there some discussion at the dinner table about Community Strong?
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: This is the picture I.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: Thought was having a party?
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: I would say so, well, no, actually probably not. It's
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: probably the party. I feel like it's probably not up
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: to their standards.
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: They're probably expecting something way more fancy very quickly.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: The other interesting news from the night is the speech
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: is apparently Anthey Albanezi was quite funny, but by all reports,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Angus Taylor's speech went down like a lead balloon, and
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: among his jokes were jokes about Pauline Hanson and about
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Susan Lee that received only jokes from his wife, who
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: apparently was laughing very hard to try to make up
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: for the crickets in the rest of the room.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: I know it doesn't do you any favors to try
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: that on, does it. And you mentioned the Prime Minister's
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: speech because the story over the last couple of days
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: has been that these people at e Y had hacked
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: into his bank account or that accessed his bank records.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: And I got to give it to the Prime Minister,
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: he joked last night for.
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: Anyone who and by the way, this is.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: Meant to be a Chathamhouse Rules events, and none of
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: this stuff is meant.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: To lee out of that room.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: But anyway, he said, for anyone who's wandering in later,
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: there's plenty of room at the eye table.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: Don't worry.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: They've got your details, whether you know it or not.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: So much for sucking up to sponsors.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: So you got to hand it to the bloke.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: He does actually have a bit of personality and he
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: knows how to read the room on those sorts of events.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: It's a bit of a concern that Angus Taylor can't
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: do it himself.
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: Speaking of reading.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: The room, Donald Trump has been trying to do what
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: I think is quite reasonable over in the United States. Now,
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: as it stands, in the US, if you're born there,
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: you automatically become a citizen of the US. So your
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: parents don't have to be citizens of the United States.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: They could have been in the US for all of
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: five minutes. If you come down the birth canal in
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: the United States, you are an American. It is your
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: birthright to be an American. And so there are a
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: lot of people who go to the United States specifically
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: to have their child there so that their child can
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: then become a dual citizen. For instance, someone in Australia
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: could go over to the United States they have a
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: baby in the US, that baby then becomes a citizen
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: of both the United States and Australia.
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: Donald Trump wants to cut that off.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: He says, it's a bit ridiculous that you can basically
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: just have a kid in this country and then that
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: kid is now a citizen of this country and forever
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: we are burdened with them and all the things that
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: go along with being a citizen, even though the parents
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: may have no connection to the United States whatsoever. You
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: can't do it in Australia, you can't do it in
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: most of the world. It seems to be a thing
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: that mostly goes on in the Americas. So Donald Trump
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: has tried to get rid of this, but the Supreme
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: Court has now knocked it down and blocked his move
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: to get rid of this automatic birthright. So now you
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: have a push from some in the Republican Party to
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: ban pregnant women. You'll notice I said women. I don't
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: know if you're still allowed to say that anymore. Anyway,
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: pregnant individual Jules and I want to ban pregnant women
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: from being able to go to the United States.
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: Take a look.
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: What this bill does is, if you are a pregnant woman,
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: you can't come into this country.
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: You've got to be a citizen be here.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: You have to have a green card holder.
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: So if you're pregnant and you don't have one of
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: those statuses, no admittance allow.
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: I know it sounds ridiculous, but I kind of understand
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: where they're coming from, because it does seem unfair that
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: you can just sort of rock up in the US
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: while pregnant, have your baby there, and all of a sudden,
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: the kids a US citizen.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: The reporting and the media of this proposal from the
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Republicans today was describing that bill as quote unquote wild.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: I think what's wild.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Is that the US Supreme Court wants to reward illegal
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: conduct with citizenship.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: I you're an illegal migrant, but.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Because you give birth in the United States, your child
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: is automatically an American citizen.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: That's the wild part of this.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: And the other thing, of course, the US Supreme Court
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: has done is that they have basically hijacked what was
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: decided in eighteen sixty eight that the original intent of
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: allowing someone born in the United States to have all
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: rights to US citizenship was for the children of slaves,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: that they would become automatic American citizens with every right.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: It was never intended to act as some sort of
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: you know, incentive for illegal immigration or for people to
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: as Donald Trump called them, what tourist babies, he called them,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: where people deliberately drive to use this law completely out
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: of context, completely against what Congress ever intended. And just
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: one more thing on this, Danika, is that this is
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: another example and the US is, I guess, peculiar in
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: this aspect of the Supreme Court determining national policy rather
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: than elected officials. Exactly for the greatest democracy in the world.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: It seems a little undemocrat.
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: And that was going to be my point that the
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: fact that the Supreme Court has that much power to
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: put in to enforce a law of this nature that
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: could have major, major consequences nationwide, I think that's a concern.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: I think it's a bit of a bonker's idea that
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: you would ban or pregnant foreigners. I think if that's
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: how far, how do you police something like that, Well,
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: they're going to have a pelvic examination every time a
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: woman rocks up to the board of it could come
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: on that that just takes it.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: So you'd have to make a declaration.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: And then if you gave birth in the United States,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: well then clearly you were pregnant.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: So you either lied on your.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: Declaration or gave a false declaration, therefore rights would not
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: do that.
• 31:41
  Speaker 6: Does that even include when you say, applying for a
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: tourist visa, so like an esther, so you have to
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: get into it, and you have an esther to get
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: into the United States, even if you're just going, then
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: you would tick that box that you would tick that
• 31:52
  Speaker 6: box basically. I actually think that what this does, maybe inadvertently,
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: is just push the cause forward for Donald Trump's ICE
• 32:01
  Speaker 6: deportation policy, because a lot of the illegal immigrants, as
• 32:06
  Speaker 6: you mentioned, are the ones that are going into America
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: to have a baby. To say, oh, well, then that
• 32:12
  Speaker 6: the child is granted automatic citizenship or doesn't this just
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: prove that ICE has to work and that the only
• 32:18
  Speaker 6: way to rid America of illegal immigrants is to let
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: ICE do their operations, and you know what, it's going
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: to take some tough decisions that includes pregnant illegal immigrants
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: as well.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: I've been wracking my brain trying to remember where I
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: read this today. It was on one of the US
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: websites where the CBS or New York Post or something,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: but I read today this would affect about two hundred
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: and fifty thousand babies born every year in the United States.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Who would wow qualify.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: For citizenship where they ought not ordinarily. It's a lot
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: of people, Yeah.
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: It is.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: Can you imagine if we were doing that here, like,
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: you know, anyone could just sort of rock up into
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: Australia and have a baby and they'd already they just
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: sort of become I mean, people will be up in
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: arms in this country because we've never had it. So
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: I don't see how it can be in anyway considered
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: unreasonable for the President of the United States to say, well, actually,
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: maybe you should be a citizen before your baby becomes
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: a citizen.
• 33:09
  Speaker 6: Well it's not America first, It's not America first. So yeah,
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: a shocking decision. Let's talk about plastic wastage. Have you
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: ever received a package, say you've gone and bought something
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: from Kmart, for example, it's arrived at your doorstep, only
• 33:24
  Speaker 6: to be covered in plastic plastic everywhere. Well, Ancho, which
• 33:28
  Speaker 6: is one of Kmart's brands, has actually been called out
• 33:31
  Speaker 6: for its massive plastic wastage use.
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: Have a look at this.
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: This is a dumbbell set that was given by Kmart.
• 33:40
  Speaker 6: You can see individual weights were wrapped in plastic and
• 33:43
  Speaker 6: then placed inside a hard protective plastic case. Now, according
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: to a new survey, sixty three percent of Australians support
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: mandatory packing laws to cut down on plastic waste. So
• 33:57
  Speaker 6: now we have a situation where we've got Takeaways in
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: the firing line.
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: Other retail giants like.
• 34:02
  Speaker 6: Coals, woolworths Audi, They've also been slammed for their practices,
• 34:07
  Speaker 6: and voters are also supporting these mandatory packaging laws to
• 34:10
  Speaker 6: replace failed voluntary targets, with support rising to seventy percent.
• 34:15
  Speaker 6: Would you believe among labor voters themselves. Look, I agree
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: we've got a plastic waste problem, but you know, if
• 34:24
  Speaker 6: you're going to take into consideration the waste that comes
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: from supermarkets or retailers, then bring back plastic straws.
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: I say, from one extreme to another.
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: I agree that a lot of these companies do use
• 34:37
  Speaker 6: too much plastic, but I'm also in favor of plastic
• 34:40
  Speaker 6: when it comes to plastic straws. I like a plastic bag.
• 34:43
  Speaker 6: I've got to be completely honest. I like a plastic bag.
• 34:46
  Speaker 6: So I get it. I understand the frustration, but I
• 34:49
  Speaker 6: also think there's benefits to it.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: I think that's the problem is that we've banned all
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: the useful forms of plastic, the straws and the cutlery, etc.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: And yet somehow we seem to allow this stuff to
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: go unfitted. I mean, why when you go to the supermarket,
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: so you can go and buy like a thing of
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: mini cucumbers or whatever, right, and so it will come
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: in like a little plastic box that is then wrapped
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: in another plastic wrapper.
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: So that's completely.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: Legal for some unknown reason because you don't need all
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: that garbage for a bag of cucumbers. But I can't
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: go and get a plastic straw. Like, explain that to
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: me if they're going to ban anything. And I actually
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: think that there should be laws to restrict packaging because
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: it is utterly ridiculous. And if you wanted to talk
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: about the environmental help that that would provide, I think
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: that would do far more in terms of reducing plastic
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: waste than taking away your plastic straws. Let us have
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: the bits that actually work and get rid of the superfluous.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: So here's the part of this that I don't understand.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: If so much packaging is superfluous, why are businesses using
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: superfluous packaging? Would that not simply add to their costs.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: So why don't normal economics sort this problem out?
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: Probably because they would have to change the way they're
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: doing their packaging and their business and their supply lines
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: or whatever in order to do it, and that may
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: cost them more in the short term, because if you've
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: got your factories whatever set up to do things in
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: a certain way, or you're buying a cheap product from
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: China that comes to you in a certain way, you
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: then have to start saying, well, I've got to change
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: this and I've got to change that, and that does
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: cost your money in the short term. So I understand
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: the reticence of business to do it, but I just
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: don't understand why all this packaging is so necessary. And
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: then it takes you three weeks to chuck all of
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: it out because you open up boxes and by the
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: time you've done with this bit of crap here and
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: this bit of crap like, you can't fit it all
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: in the bin.
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: It goes on for weeks in tea.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Right, we're going to go to a break. When we
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: come back.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Look at what's making headlines tomorrow, including the Royal Commission
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: into Anti Semitism. Here is that Elon Musk tried very
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: hard to keep grewsome photos of the Bondi terror attack online.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: We'll talk about that more after this.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's take a look at what's making headlines tomorrow.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Deniki, you've got the Australia.
• 37:12
  Speaker 6: I do have the Australian down the bottom there it
• 37:15
  Speaker 6: says X fought for Bondi clips Elon Musk's X fought
• 37:19
  Speaker 6: to keep footage of the Bondai massacre on its platform,
• 37:22
  Speaker 6: according to the E Safety Commissioner, who believes there has
• 37:24
  Speaker 6: never been a more toxic or caustic environment for online
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: hate speech. Digital watchdog Julie Inman Grant appeared before the
• 37:33
  Speaker 6: Anti Semitism and Social Cohesion Royal Commission on Thursday, saying
• 37:36
  Speaker 6: the federal government had underfunded her agency and X had
• 37:40
  Speaker 6: suggested video from after the December fourteen attacked was no
• 37:45
  Speaker 6: worse than a Gore movie. We fought hard against X
• 37:48
  Speaker 6: in terms of not allowing that post bottom Bondi content,
• 37:51
  Speaker 6: she said. The Royal Commission also quiz senior police on
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: their formal relationships with the E Safety Commission. I believe
• 37:58
  Speaker 6: that that vision does deserve to stay on X.
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: I think that.
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: Any removal of it would only appease the alleged perpetrators
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: in this situation. Let Australians see what happened for themselves
• 38:13
  Speaker 6: and let Australians make a judgment on what they think themselves.
• 38:18
  Speaker 6: Don't try and censor it, don't try and be the
• 38:20
  Speaker 6: you know that the safeties are that the big moral arbiter.
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: No let people see it.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: The safety's boss's argument was that she was trying to
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: spare the feelings of Jewish people and particularly family members
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: of the deceased.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: Do you give any weight to that.
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: No, I don't.
• 38:37
  Speaker 6: I don't because we've seen other previous alleged incidents. For example,
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: there was an alleged terror attack where a bishop was
• 38:49
  Speaker 6: allegedly stabbed and she took to take that off and
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: wanted that vision, and he wanted that vision out there.
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: He said, No, let let let Australia see.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: I mean, in general, in the news media, the rule
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: is you don't identify anybody until their family has been
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: made aware of it. But in these circumstances, that happens
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: pretty quickly, and after that it becomes legitimate use footage.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: So I don't see how you can argue most of
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: the stuff that was run on TV and in newspapers
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: and whatever came from social media that night, because of
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: course you couldn't rush a television camera down there to
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: capture what was going on as it happened. All the
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: footage we have to piece together the events on that
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: night come from people who were on the ground who
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: either posted that footage to TikTok or x or Facebook
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: or whatever, or later shared it with a news organization.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: Like it's all legitimate use footage. I don't see any
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: argument for it to be taken down.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: It is shocking footage, and on with you, Thaniker. I
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: think people should be shocked, and of course it would
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: upset people, and I think people should be upset, and
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: it will probably make people angry, and I think people
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: should be angry, And sometimes I wonder if that's what
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: they're trying to avoid. They don't want people to get
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: angry and hope that we can just sail on.
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you can't censor everything.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Let's go to the front page of tomorrow's Herald Son.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: The headline reads shocking, sickening, but sadly not surprising. In
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: broken State, fifteen year old was stabbed to death outside
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: a hospital at Craigieburn, ending his short life bleeding out
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: on the bitumen. It's shocking and sickening, but sad no
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: longer surprising. In Victoria the state of distress. The killing
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: of Darwish Mohammed, pictured in a hospital car park, is
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: just the latest senseless death of a young person in
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: our city. He was stabbed to death around seven pm
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: last night, found by medical staff.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Police last time.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: I checked were unsure whether the attack happened in the
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: hospital car park or whether it happened somewhere else, and
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: he was dumped in the hospital car park. Twenty year
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: old and a sixteen year old have been arrested, and.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: This is allegedly part of what is being dubbed the
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: postcode wars in Melbourne, which is rival gangs fighting with
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: each other. Victoria has clearly such a big problem with
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: youth crime now, and there's really no excuse because if
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: you go back, you know, six seven, eight years this
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: was really popping off in Queensland.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: Now. Queensland still has its own problems with.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: Youth crime, but the blueprint for all of this was
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: available in other parts of the country the better part
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: of a decade ago, and then it's happened in Victoria
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: and nothing's been done to stop it, and now you
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: have young people losing their lives.
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: It's just not another young life lost.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: On the front of the Daily Telegraph tomorrow, it says
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: Harbor crossing fees are hiked yet again. Toll blood is
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: good headline that one. It says, so drivers are being
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: slugged even more to drive across Sydney Harbor after this
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: government hiked tolls on the bridge and tunnel for the
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: third time since taking office. Despite Premier Chris Min's talk
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: taking office sorry with a pledge to end toll mania,
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: the tolls on Harbour crossings have increased by more than
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: thirteen percent since he came to power in twenty twenty three.
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: Tolls increased by as much as fourteen cents on Wednesday,
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: in line with inflation. Just three days after Transport Minister
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: John Graham refused to say whether the cost of driving
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: over the Harbor Bridge would increase, the budget chose the
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: government will raise one point two billion dollars from tolls
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: on the roads it owns between now and twenty twenty
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: nine thirty. How can it be that the Transport Minister,
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: I don't know whether the toll is going to go
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: three days later it goes up.
• 42:44
  Speaker 6: I mean, as it doesn't know, as if the Transport
• 42:47
  Speaker 6: Minister doesn't know. For goodness sake, Gee, that's it's getting
• 42:50
  Speaker 6: more and more expensive, isn't it to go over on
• 42:53
  Speaker 6: these toll roads?
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: Like what else do you do? What else do you do?
• 42:57
  Speaker 6: The Harbor Bridge that is the one or the main
• 43:00
  Speaker 6: at least to connect Sydney to the northern part of Sydney,
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: What do you do?
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: That's the problem.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: I just love how it says the budget shows that
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: government will raise one point two billion dollars from tolls
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: on the roads it owns Now.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: I know they're making the distinction.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Between government owned and private owned, but I wasn't aware
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: the government owned roads.
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: I thought, na funny mant.
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: It also got another story in the front of the
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: Telly tomorrow that we should know. Ten minute window to
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: nab killer. Tai Police only had a ten minute window
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: to nab suspected killer Simon Carmen before he passed through
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: immigration at Bangkok Airport and out of their jurisdiction. Fast
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: acting police detained the Australian forty five at the International
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: Airport when he was trying to board a flight to Perth.
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: At seven pm last Friday, four hours before the body
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: of seventeen year old seventeen year old woman was found
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: stuffed in a suitcase.
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: The police chief.
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: Colonel a Nick strathlon guy, who said in a translated interview,
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: we put him on a watch list ten minutes before
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: he was due to go through through immigration. If he
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: passed security, we did not have a way to have
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: a warrant. Sorry for his arrest and so a very
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: close call there.
• 44:09
  Speaker 6: Indeed, absolutely let's take a look now at the advertiser.
• 44:14
  Speaker 6: Labor Pains ALP boosts anti abortionist after mally voted for
• 44:19
  Speaker 6: bill she backed. Controversial anti abortion campaigner doctor Joanna Howe
• 44:22
  Speaker 6: has been expelled from the Labor Party, accused of breaching
• 44:25
  Speaker 6: party rules by urging voters to support non Labor candidates.
• 44:29
  Speaker 6: It comes after Premier Peter Malanawskus voted in favor of
• 44:32
  Speaker 6: a bill from Upper House MP Sarah Gains supported by
• 44:35
  Speaker 6: doctor Howe to restrict late term abortions, but the bill
• 44:38
  Speaker 6: was resoundingly.
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: Defeated in the lower House.
• 44:41
  Speaker 6: The party has now become a radical, has become as
• 44:44
  Speaker 6: radical on abortion as the Greens.
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: Doctor Howe said, well, I mean I suppose the rules
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: of rules.
• 44:50
  Speaker 6: You can't be you know, saying don't vote for these candidates,
• 44:53
  Speaker 6: don't disendorsing up, you know, fellow labor MPs.
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: So it is what it is, been.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: Coming for a while.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: Very quickly, I've got to show you this the Northern
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: Territory News Bogan Rocket Launcher unleashes chaos smoking cones reads
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: the headline rather than read the article. Why don't I
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: just show you what happened. This is the smoking Cone.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: Have a look. That's right, rock and Launcher for their
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: big fireworks.
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: The Northern Territory.
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: I love Australia and can we also note very quickly
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: before we go on the front of the Canvas Times tomorrow.
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: They've got, of course a foreshadowing of the World Cup
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: on Saturday, which is Australia versus England. Now the England Egypt.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: The Egyptian team was called the Pharaohs. So what's the
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: headline they've gone with Soccero's ready to get pharaocious boom,
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: that's dad joker the day that one.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: All right, we're going to go to a break. But
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: before we do.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: Earlier in the week, Danika said she would never want
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: to be proposed to in public. Here we go after
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: the break. We've got a marriage proposal that might.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: Be of interest to you. Doneka dand by way, okay.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: Earlier in the week we talked about a bloke who
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: proposed to his girlfriend at Wimbledon, and then Danika didn't
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: like it. She said, I'm not into public proposals. So Danika,
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: what about this one? Is this romantic or stupid? A
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: pair of Russian daredevils broke through security and climbed to
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: the top of the Empire State Building spire, almost five.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: Hundred meters above the ground.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: They lingered there for about thirty minutes, waving a flag,
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: talking about the power of love, before descending a little
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: whereupon he proposed to the girlfriend and she accepted the ring. Sadly,
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: their first night as an engaged couple will be spent
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: separately in police cells.
• 46:52
  Speaker 6: Seriously romantic, Danika, No, that's not romantic. What a bunch
• 46:54
  Speaker 6: of attention seeker is how embarrassing?
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: Seriously? No, that's just just cringed.
• 46:58
  Speaker 9: No.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: A go in the New Post said is this what
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: love is? Now? My wife and I got engaged in
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: her parents lounger and that I filmed it.
• 47:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but that's the way it should be private. You know,
• 47:08
  Speaker 6: I think that's really sweet good.
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: I think this is the problem though, I mean, what
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: are the rest of us blokes mean to do?
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: It's all right for you, you're married, But what are the
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: rest of us blokes got to do? Oh?
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: Now we've got to take her up at the top
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: of the Empire State Building the other way.
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: She say, well, who did it for her?
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: You'll do it for me.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: That's been done. You got to go higher.
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: Oh Jesus, I don't know how to do that, God
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: or Maddy. Actually, in fact, I don't know.
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: These people may well have qualified for one of our
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: favorite segments, don't the day. But seeing as we've already
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: done them, I've got another one for you. Chap over
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: in England who's suspected of being a shoplifter. So the
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: coppers have gone round to the house where they think
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: he's hard and they've knocked on the door. Woman answers
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: the door, so is the chap here and she says no,
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: And so they said, well, do you mind if we
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: come and have a look around, because we're pretty sure
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: he's in here.
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: How do you reckon?
• 47:59
  Speaker 9: They found him a.
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  Speaker 5: Most Oh, let's go it that's got.
• 48:16
  Speaker 7: How good is it in a paper shopping band?
• 48:21
  Speaker 5: That is? That is? Is it? Is it done? Or
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: is it lucrative?
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  Speaker 4: Well it didn't work.
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: Well, it didn't work, did it?
• 48:29
  Speaker 6: I was that high there, high, Hi there, Hi.
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: Guys, you're a.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: Police officer, you'd have to be slightly amused.
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: You would be, you would be.
• 48:38
  Speaker 6: This would be one of the best things that you'd
• 48:39
  Speaker 6: ever see. Speaking of great things that you would ever see,
• 48:42
  Speaker 6: let's have a look at five year old Neil the Seal.
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: Yes, it's beautiful. He's a gentle seal.
• 48:48
  Speaker 6: But he's doing the rounds out in South Australia, very
• 48:52
  Speaker 6: sorry Tasmania, Southern Tasmania. He's bypassing barricades, crushing fences, lying
• 48:57
  Speaker 6: on roads and bashing into at least one part car.
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  Speaker 6: In fact, Neil the Seal is about as menace as
• 49:03
  Speaker 6: the dope of the day.
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: That we've got today. Oh look at him. I think
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: he's quite cute. You know what else he needs?
• 49:07
  Speaker 6: He needs this If we can just bring up the
• 49:09
  Speaker 6: photo please, this is what he needs.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: I think that's what the people of Tazzy need to
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: protect them.
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: So to protect they need Caleb's helmet.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: Very good On that note, that's all we've got time
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: for you.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: Have a great weekend. What's coming up is the Read
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: a Penny Show