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Who Shocked You Most at Minicamp? | Jaguars Happy Hour · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Thursday, June thirteenth.
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  Speaker 3: J P.
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  Speaker 1: Chag and welcome in. It is Jaguars Happy Hour. It
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  Speaker 1: is our final show of the off season program. It
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  Speaker 1: is Thursday, June thirteenth. JAP Shadwick with you coming up.
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  Speaker 1: The off season program coming to a close this week.
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  Speaker 1: Contract discussions, Well, you know, one key position has been
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  Speaker 1: in the news. What others could be in play? Maybe
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  Speaker 1: taking a flight right across the table from here to
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  Speaker 1: here every Thursday about about six ounces, you know each
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  Speaker 1: poor you know seven? Eight? Nah?
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  Speaker 3: Good?
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  Speaker 1: And I got room for nine here in front of me.
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  Speaker 1: Nine times six. That's fifty four rounds.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just a couple of beers. FCC is gonna
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  Speaker 1: love you. Yeah. If I forget the Uber, you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: have to get one of those probably Uber. Good idea.
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  Speaker 1: I love the beer. Gotta admit, got a big fan
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  Speaker 1: of the beer. Anastasia Island style IPA. I like the IPA.
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  Speaker 1: I like the red Gotta say a big fan. Off
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  Speaker 1: season program is in the books, OTA's done. The mini
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  Speaker 1: camp this week didn't feature many of the veterans. A
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  Speaker 1: few of the guys that are new to the system,
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  Speaker 1: were around no helmets inside in the air conditioning the
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  Speaker 1: first two days and then finished on the field Wednesday.
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  Speaker 1: Can I go into my old guy ran, what is
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  Speaker 1: so funny? I was, uh, you know, because I mean
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  Speaker 1: you look at what's happening in New York with Aaron Rodgers,
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  Speaker 1: who doesn't show up for the mandatory mini camp. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and it's a I mean it's back page, you know,
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  Speaker 1: which is essentially the front page each of the New
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  Speaker 1: York newspaper, and it's huge. I mean it's uh, They've
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  Speaker 1: got these catchy titles and everything about Aaron Rodgers, and
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden in Jacksonville there's like thirty something
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  Speaker 1: guys that are excused from mini camps. I mean, the
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  Speaker 1: complete polar opposites of what's happening. And for the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: off season, they took the helmets off. I mean a
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  Speaker 1: very different off season, a very different approach, a very
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  Speaker 1: I think, a conservative, safe approach, trying to prevent injury
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  Speaker 1: from trying to gain a lot of really good work,
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  Speaker 1: but being cautious and uh, some of the old school
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  Speaker 1: guys would probably be sitting there, Oh, these guys are
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  Speaker 1: getting soft. And I was kind of joking around with
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  Speaker 1: Leon Searcy the other day. I said, leone, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean? I said, uh uh. And it was
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  Speaker 1: right before the first practice, and you know, we were
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  Speaker 1: kind of hanging out outside the Miller Electric Center and
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  Speaker 1: get ready to go in, and he says, uh, were
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  Speaker 1: going to I said, no, no, no, no, Leanna said it's
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  Speaker 1: too hot. It's too hot. We're you know, gotta have
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  Speaker 1: practice inside. He says, you're joking, right, like you kidding me?
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  Speaker 1: So now I'm serious? So uh so, yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 1: some of the old guys would have some fun with that.
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  Speaker 1: But look, I personally liked the air conditioning Monday and Tuesday.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta admit, well, it took the helmets off, and
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  Speaker 1: I think that in turn might maybe slow the tempo
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  Speaker 1: down a little bit. There's some younger guys that want
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  Speaker 1: to show some things off and put some things on tape, right,
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  Speaker 1: and it doesn't have to be a younger guy, But
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  Speaker 1: without a helmet, okay, you you really have to step
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  Speaker 1: it back because there are certain rules of the off
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  Speaker 1: season no contact, and you can't do certain things. And
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  Speaker 1: we've seen teams get banged practices and fines and all
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  Speaker 1: that stuff. So you've seen you've seen teams end up
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  Speaker 1: losing some of their practice time because NFL Players Association,
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  Speaker 1: who obviously keeps an eye on all of these things,
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  Speaker 1: deems of practice may be overly physic and then they
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  Speaker 1: lose some time or I don't know if they can
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  Speaker 1: be actually subject to fined. I'm sure they probably could,
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  Speaker 1: the team could, but uh but Doug Peterson, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think it all goes back to what Doug Peterson.
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  Speaker 1: You you go back to the very beginning, uh part of
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  Speaker 1: some of the OTAs, and he was asked about what's
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  Speaker 1: the objective with these OTAs, and the first answer out
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  Speaker 1: of his mouth was to stay healthy. I mean literally,
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's bow stay healthy. And so you can
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  Speaker 1: tell what's on the forefront of his mind, because look,
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  Speaker 1: they got a lot of really good work in the OTAs,
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  Speaker 1: the weight room stuff, I mean all really good stuff.
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  Speaker 1: And I think sometimes you got to be careful and
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  Speaker 1: be a little bit conservative this time of year, because
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  Speaker 1: you know, the last thing you need to do because look,
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  Speaker 1: you have a limited pool of money salary cap to
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  Speaker 1: assemble roster, and if all of a sudden you lose
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  Speaker 1: one or two front line players. It's not like you
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  Speaker 1: can like going to the grosser store. Okay, you had
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  Speaker 1: a couple, you know, a gallon of milk go bad
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  Speaker 1: and then a you know, a loaf of bread get mold.
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  Speaker 1: You can't go to the grocery store and just pull
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  Speaker 1: a couple more off of the shelf and say, hey,
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  Speaker 1: we're good, we got a new gallon of milk and
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  Speaker 1: we got this nice wonderbread and we're fine. You can't.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't doesn't work that way. It doesn't work JP.
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  Speaker 1: Not that the players are groceries, but you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean. Yeah, I know what you mean. Yeah, you
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  Speaker 1: know you're replacing. You're going from a real high quality
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  Speaker 1: gallon of milk down to yeah, like goat's milk or something.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's wrong with goats milk. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I've never had goats milk, of you. I'm sure I
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  Speaker 1: have at some point. I don't know. I've had goat cheese.
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  Speaker 1: Now it's the same, So I guess that's goat milk, right,
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  Speaker 1: got to be the same. Okay. I'm not really an
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  Speaker 1: expert on dairy either, am I. I'm not an expert
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  Speaker 1: on cheese either. I'm definitely not an expert on goats.
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  Speaker 1: Let's hear how Joe is I hear my buddy, Joe
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  Speaker 1: Coortanado is an expert on goats? Maybe so yeah, because
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  Speaker 1: he is one. He is the greatest of all time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, radio producer, no doubt. Let's hear from Josh Allen.
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  Speaker 1: He was one of the veteran players in attendance at
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  Speaker 1: mandatory Many camp because he wasn't around for the OTA
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  Speaker 1: periods and he was out in Arizona doing work on
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  Speaker 1: his own. He is back, new contract in hand and
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  Speaker 1: the mindset, though, has not changed.
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  Speaker 4: So he has everything that you really want to need
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  Speaker 4: in a in a in a defensive tackle.
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited to play against him.
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  Speaker 4: Obviously, he played at a high level for so long
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  Speaker 4: out there in San fran He played with Nick, you know,
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  Speaker 4: so he's played with guys that played at a very
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  Speaker 4: high level.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 4: For me, I want him to show, you know, I
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  Speaker 4: want to show him that I ain't no Nick, but
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  Speaker 4: I'm Josh and I'm and it's a bad boy. It's
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  Speaker 4: a bad boy right here. And I played a game
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  Speaker 4: my way, you know what I'm saying. And I want
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  Speaker 4: him to see that, and I want to know that.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I'm when you get to the Super when
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  Speaker 4: you get to Super Bowl, we're gonna win it.
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  Speaker 1: All right. That's the mindset from Josh Allen talking about
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  Speaker 1: Eric Armstead, the addition on the defensive line there with
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  Speaker 1: him and of course Trayvon Walker. I mean, that's that's
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  Speaker 1: the talent now on this defensive line. First off, Josh
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  Speaker 1: looks big. I think he looks very similar to last year.
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  Speaker 1: So whatever he's doing out there in Arizona, it's a
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  Speaker 1: very similar kind of a deal to where he seems
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  Speaker 1: to get bigger and then last year it really worked
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  Speaker 1: for him, and so he's going back to do that again.
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  Speaker 1: And you know a lot of veteran guys might end
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  Speaker 1: up coming to a mandatory mini camp and that did
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  Speaker 1: not attend OTAs and kind of have a bad attitude
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  Speaker 1: about it because they're like, I don't need to be
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  Speaker 1: doing this. I mean, I'm a great player, I don't
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  Speaker 1: need this. Well, Josh is you know, you watch Josh
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  Speaker 1: in practice, it's full speed man, full speed with Josh.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what I appreciate about Josh. He's a total
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  Speaker 1: team guy and he's got a system that works for him.
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  Speaker 1: That's why he trains in Arizona, and the team is
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  Speaker 1: okay with that. If look at if you're going to
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  Speaker 1: give us seventeen sacks man, you could go train in
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  Speaker 1: Alaska for all I care, as long as you come
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  Speaker 1: back and you're in great shape. And yes, it's a
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  Speaker 1: new scheme, but he was here early on and he's
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  Speaker 1: getting all the information that he needs and that's why
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  Speaker 1: he was here for Mini camp. And it's good too. Look,
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  Speaker 1: he wasn't the only veteran that was out there in
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  Speaker 1: mini camp. There were some other veterans out there as well,
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  Speaker 1: Gabe Davis, guy that's coming back from an injury, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because the veterans that were healthy all kind of got
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  Speaker 1: excused you know, that were you know, starters. But there
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  Speaker 1: was some new guys or guys that were rehabbing that
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  Speaker 1: were at the mandatory mini camp. And that's that's fine,
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  Speaker 1: makes sense to me. And did you like what you
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  Speaker 1: heard from from Josh Allen though? About you? Look, everything
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  Speaker 1: that comes out of Josh's mouth is is uh. He's
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  Speaker 1: just a he's a he's a good guy. He is
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  Speaker 1: what you call a locker room building block, because he's
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  Speaker 1: a he's just a good guy. He's a high quality
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  Speaker 1: character guy. And the more people that you have like that,
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  Speaker 1: the better chance of success that you have in this game,
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  Speaker 1: because those are the guys that keep the locker room
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  Speaker 1: the way it should be or the way it needs
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  Speaker 1: to be, I think is a better way to put it.
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  Speaker 1: We're intention Xlamjaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube, It's Jaguars Happy
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  Speaker 1: our JP Shadwick with Jeff Flagab and let's flip it
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  Speaker 1: to the offensive side now and offensive coordinator Press Taylor
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  Speaker 1: speaking with the media this week at the end of
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  Speaker 1: the off season program. What did they get accomplished on
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  Speaker 1: offense the last couple months.
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  Speaker 5: I think we've established a tempo, and that's something that
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  Speaker 5: not necessarily like no huddle, but a tempo in and
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  Speaker 5: out of the huddle the way we want to meet.
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  Speaker 5: Just establishing our standard for this is what it looks like.
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  Speaker 5: Though we'd love to say we establish this physicality that
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  Speaker 5: we're going to be, but that's just not real right now.
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  Speaker 5: So there's certain things of the tempo, the way we
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  Speaker 5: communicate in and out of the huddle, playing at the
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  Speaker 5: line of scrimmage. There's a couple of different things that
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  Speaker 5: I feel confident we've been able to do and then,
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  Speaker 5: like we talked about just our run progression of this
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  Speaker 5: is our starting point. This is how we build on this,
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  Speaker 5: This is how it all fits together to where there's
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  Speaker 5: more understanding. It's not memorization, it's it's now we understand
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  Speaker 5: why this word means this, what this, how this relates
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  Speaker 5: to that, and our blocking schemes the same are combinations
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  Speaker 5: of the same.
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  Speaker 1: Express Taylor offensive coordinator, all the availabilities at Jaguars dot
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  Speaker 1: Com and Jaguars YouTube, A lot of that is Trevor Lawrence.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, we'll get to the discussion of the contract
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  Speaker 1: negotiations a little bit later, but what did you think
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  Speaker 1: from press Taylor? Does that make sense this time of year.
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  Speaker 1: We took a couple of things and he pointed out that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, trying to get more physical, that's not realistic
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  Speaker 1: at this point because again, as you allude to, there's
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  Speaker 1: no helmets, there's no pads. Obviously it's the off season.
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  Speaker 1: So I really believe that this offense wants to become
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  Speaker 1: a physical, run the ball kind of an offense, and
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  Speaker 1: the more that they can accomplish in that area, I think,
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  Speaker 1: the more dynamic and dangerous that they can be in
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  Speaker 1: the passing game, because if you, if you follow football
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  Speaker 1: long enough, will realize that the majority of big plays
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  Speaker 1: with offenses happen with play action. I mean, I really
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  Speaker 1: do play action. And so if you're running the ball effectively,
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  Speaker 1: then the defenses are buying in that you're going to
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  Speaker 1: run the ball and they're acting accordingly. Twofold one, the
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  Speaker 1: scheme is going to be built from a defensive standpoint
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  Speaker 1: to stop your run if you're good at it. And
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  Speaker 1: then number two, also the mindset of the defense is
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  Speaker 1: more coming forward to stop a really successful running game,
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  Speaker 1: and so that allows your deep routes and play action
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  Speaker 1: to become effective. And here's the reality. You've got two studs,
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  Speaker 1: I mean two studs and Gabe Davis number one, who
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  Speaker 1: they acquired in free agency from Buffalo, who has a
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  Speaker 1: very crafty way of getting deep without having burner speed,
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  Speaker 1: and then Brian Thomas Junior, who has legit speed as
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  Speaker 1: we're watching him now on the model, I mean, you
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  Speaker 1: add those two guys to this offense. And I made
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  Speaker 1: this statement earlier in the week as I was talking
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  Speaker 1: to somebody in that I think that this is going
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  Speaker 1: to be Trevor Lawrence's best arsenal of weapons that he
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  Speaker 1: has had to date. You have Gabe Davis, Brian Thomas Junior.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to put Parker Washington into that mix because
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  Speaker 1: I think he stepped I think he's going to take
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  Speaker 1: a big step forward in this offense. And then of course,
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  Speaker 1: Christian kirk Is is a long super dependable. Evan Ingram
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  Speaker 1: super dependable. But I mean, you had all these guys together,
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  Speaker 1: and if you have the foundation of a good running game,
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  Speaker 1: then all these guys are going to be extremely, extremely,
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  Speaker 1: that much better than what they could have been with
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  Speaker 1: an offense that's just wanting to be passed first all
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  Speaker 1: the time. So I'm excited to watch this offense, and
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  Speaker 1: first and foremost, I'm excited to see what the result
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  Speaker 1: of this off season of deconstruction and then reconstruction holds,
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  Speaker 1: because that's what they talked about, kind of tearing it
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  Speaker 1: down from all the way down to the studs and
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  Speaker 1: then rebuilding the framework. In the mindset of this offense,
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  Speaker 1: it all starts though logs and you know this sixteen Well, yes,
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  Speaker 1: but for him to be able to cook like you want,
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  Speaker 1: you got to have that offensive line and give him
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  Speaker 1: time to do it and to push it and run
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  Speaker 1: and everything starts there and you just don't know until
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  Speaker 1: you start pushing people around. That's the uh, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And for people here, just a little teased because John
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  Speaker 1: o'sher does a great job on Jaguars dot Com of
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  Speaker 1: who Johnny oh Man Johnny and I read everything he
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  Speaker 1: writes because he does a great job. There's certain things
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  Speaker 1: that I may miss and then he just picks it
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  Speaker 1: up and it's great to read. And he does some
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  Speaker 1: of the things where he collects the thoughts of others
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  Speaker 1: in the media. You included me as well, and he
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  Speaker 1: had kind of a list of ten different questions for
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  Speaker 1: us to answer, which is series coming up to something?
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be coming up here on Jaguars dot Com.
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  Speaker 1: And one of the questions was what is your biggest
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  Speaker 1: concern going in into twenty twenty four. My biggest concern
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  Speaker 1: on offense anyway, was the offensive line. Where will they
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  Speaker 1: be at now? Can they take a step up from
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  Speaker 1: where they were at last year without having a ton
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  Speaker 1: of change. I mean, you've added Mitch Morse at center position.
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  Speaker 1: I'm very confident in a lot of these guys that
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  Speaker 1: they can take a step forward but you know the
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  Speaker 1: reality is JP got to see it, got to see it,
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  Speaker 1: a preseason game. Yeah, okay, just trying to get the
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  Speaker 1: lingo down. So is this considered a friendly that's going
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: to be going on here? Yes, yes, like a preseason game.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: So it should be called a match or a game.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: It should be called a friendly in reality. Yeah, okay,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: that's cool. It'll be on the pitch, at everybody at
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: the on the pitch that's at the that's the term
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: for the term. It's the first time you've ever heard
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: any soccer term. Yeah, I'm just you know what I here,
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: here's the thing JP, and I'm gonna be honest here.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: This is very truthful I've had a very truthful moment here,
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a flashback. I can't wait. Okay,
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: So when uh, when I was a young man in
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: elementary school, we actually got a letter grade for PE. Right,
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: and yeah, everybody, yeah right. You had to take a test, right,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: you had to take it like a written test about
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: well whatever whatever was the topic or the sport of
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: that period, that grading period. And uh, during the grading period,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: I can't remember which grades was. I want to say
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: it was in middle school because that's when I did.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: I kind of got a little stray off the buff
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: the path a little bit, and I got an I
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: got an F in pape? Yeah really did? Dare? I ask? How, well,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: if you have a test on soccer, you might want
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: to study for it at least look at the materials
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: a little bit correct. Maybe I didn't and you failed
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: and I got an F. I got an F and
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: PE is that terrible? It's pretty bad? It is pretty bad.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: So if I had actually paid attention, I might know
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: that it is called a pitch and a match instead
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: of a game and a field. The more you know,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: you know, I kind of kept that from my mom
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: and dad to they're just finding out. He's just he
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: didn't have a report card that had all of the
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: subjects like like down down on a list, right, it
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: was individual papers, and then they had carbon copied, so
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: like when the teacher wrote the grade letter of that period,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: it was carbon copied on the one blow and then
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: so the next period it was carbon copied. So that
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: somehow my PE grading period report card got lost. I
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: think most of our you know, viewers, at least on YouTube,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: probably don't even know what the hell carbon copying is,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: don't think so probably not that doesn't exist anymore. Yeah,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: So that report cod got lost, and then the next
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: grading period that one came back and somehow I got
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: a B in that previous grading period. What else did
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: you fail? I've never failed anything else, never good. I
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: was a straight A student, honorall student, but I was
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: not very honorable with my parents when I carbon copied
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: that F into a B that following grading period. But overall, JP,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: my my PE grade for the year was was a B.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: I couldn't get an A because of that one grading period.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: For that I got n F because I didn't and
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: was not prepared for the soccer test, the written test.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: But I'm glad I'm getting an education here. Well, we're
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: glad we got enough sidetrack going, so now we can
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: probably return back to Let's return back to normal programming
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: now on ten Today's l a M Jaguars dot Com,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Jaguar or YouTube. That's Jeff Logoman, I'm JP Shadwick and
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Mac Jones is now with the Jaguars, traded over from
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: the New England Patriots, former first round pick. I caught
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: up with him after the final practice of Mandadori Mini
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Camp this week and asked him a bunch of things
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: about a new role as a reserve quarterback and his
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: initial impressions of Jacksonville, his hometown.
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's been great. I mean, first of all, the
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: weather's been awesome. It's a little hot, but I know
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: it's gonna get hotter. And just the organization's done a
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: great job, very organized from the strength and conditioning to
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: the meetings of the practice. So everyone's on the same page,
• 21:33
  Speaker 6: which is always a good start.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Let's rewind a little bit, not too much. We're gonna
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: look forward a lot a little bit later. But when
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: you got the news that you were being traded and
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: getting a new beginning in a place where you know
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: there's an established starting quarterback. What was your reaction to that.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was excited.
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: I mean I've known Trevor for a long time and
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: played against him. Now I'm playing with them, so it's
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: really awesome. And he's a great quarterback. CJ's done a
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: great job too, just being a mentor for both of us, and.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Thanks.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: But yeah, it's been awesome.
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: I mean, what a great room with great coaches too.
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: I mean obviously coach Peterson and Press, and then Mike
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: McCoy's obviously been a head coach, played quarterback, been a coordinator,
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: and then Andrew Briner. So we got a good little squad
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: from head to toe and hopefully we can just keep
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: meshing and making everything work.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Doug Peterson was a reserve quarterback most of his career
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: in the NFL, So if you guys had that kind
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: of conversation, how do you have to change your mindset
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: in that role?
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. We definitely talked about it a little bit.
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: And he has great stories and experiences himself, so they're
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: always trying to learn from somebody in that room. There's
• 22:34
  Speaker 6: just so much knowledge, so it's always fun to hear
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: a good story, whether that was when he was a
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: backup or head coach, and you know, in Philly or wherever.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: So it's always good to learn.
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: And I'm just happy to be with an offensive coach
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: and it's kind of fun to just talk offensive football
• 22:46
  Speaker 6: for once.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Mac. How difficult is it to learn a new offense?
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: You haven't have to do it much in your career,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: I mean long time in Alabama, of course, New England
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: and now here in Jacksonville.
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: I mean, I've been drawing play since it's five years old,
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: so it's kind of my thing. I know, my mom
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: tells the story, but like I used to draw the
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: plays and put them underneath my bed and hide them
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: so no one could find them. So I've always loved offense.
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: I've always enjoyed the history of offenses, and I've been
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: fortunate to be in some good ones and also some
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: lots of good ones. So you learn from really good
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: experience and really bad experience. And that's what I can
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: bring to the table, is everything is a learning experience.
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: And Trevor's played a lot of football, and I'm fortunate
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: I've played a good amount myself, and I feel like
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: we can, you know, go back and forth and give
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: each other ideas.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: What stands out about the receiving cores here. Maybe some
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: guys that maybe caught your eye in the last couple
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: of months.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, definitely.
• 23:34
  Speaker 6: You know, Christian Kirk and Evan and everybody, and Gabe
• 23:37
  Speaker 6: coming in. You know, I played against him and Buffalo
• 23:39
  Speaker 6: and he's a great player. They all kind of set
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: that standard for the younger guys, and I've been impressed
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: with a lot of the younger guys, even some of
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: the undrafted guys to.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: Come in here.
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: It's my fourth year, it's there first, so I've kind
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: of been in those shoes and worked with different undrafted guys,
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: and I think this is definitely one of the most
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: impressive groups from not only a mental standpoint, but physical
• 23:56
  Speaker 6: and being able to get open and catch the ball.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: So I've been really pleased with the guys.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: All right, off season back in your hometown. What are
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: the plans and what do you need to do to
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: be ready for training camp?
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's definitely adjust my schedule a little bit, just
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: make sure I'm super primed and ready for preseason because
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: I'm sure I'll get some chances to play there, and
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: really just bring the guys along with me and obviously
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: enjoy time with my family.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: But it's hard to turn off football.
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: But I'm gonna do that best I can and continue
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: to grow, continue to learn and watch film, get with
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: the guys.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: It's nice when Trevor's here.
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: We both live here, so we can get together throw
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: do all the things that kind of separates you from
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: other teams.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: What's the best part about being back in Jacksonville as
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: a city.
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: I mean, my family's right down the road. I can't
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: complain about that. I think just the weather, honestly, like
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: being able to go outside and just go on a
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: walk is nice and just do the fun things outside,
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: go to the beach, play a little bit of golf.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: So it's a great city.
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: Kind of good for me right now, just low key
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: and get back to my roots and kind of find
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: myself again.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Thanks for the time, Good luck to thank you. That's
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Mac Jones, of course, the conversation on Jaguars dot Com
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: and the Jaguars social media that was Tank Bigsby, who
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: yelled in the middle of the conversation. Auburn running back
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: played against each other in the entire Bowl in twenty twenty,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: but bull school product. Of course, Mac Jones from here
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: in Jacksonville, back at his hometown now, and I just
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: find it interesting a guy who was a starter, a
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: first round pick in the NFL, all of a sudden
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: he's at a place where he will not be the
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: starting quarterback here. Well, that's definitely going to be an
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: adjustment for him. And just from my eyes watching him
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: on the field, he is a big step up from CJ. Bethard.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: And that's no offense to CJ. I mean, CJ's a
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: very capable backup, but Mac Jones's arm is just different.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: He's more athletic than CJ. He's got more arm talent
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: than CJ. Clearly, this is a really good trade executed
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: by Trent Balke and the Jaguars for a couple of reasons. One,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: he's a quality player. You hate to say this, but look,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: if something happens to Trevor, you've got a starting aliber
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: quarterback that's on your roster, Number one, number two. You
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: only gave up I believe, a sixth round pick for him.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: So all of a sudden, after having him for a year,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: let's say he leaves, your compensatory pick is probably going
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: to be much greater than a sixth round pick for him,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: or you end up keeping him and signing him long
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: term for to be a backup quarterback or in the
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: short term. Either way, this total win win for this organization.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Opportunity for him, like he said, find himself to kind
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: of get back and playing ball and being a quarterback.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: And I think this is a good situation for him.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: You know, I remember watching him when he was in
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: high school, you know, playing at Bulls, and obviously Bulls
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: didn't exactly have it wasn't a passer friendly offense. This
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: was a ground and pound offense that they had, you know,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: with the Bowls school program. But he clearly stood out.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: And I remember asking a friend of mine at one
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: of the games. I was like, who's that quarterback. He's
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: pretty darn good and he says, that's a that's his kid,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Mac Jones. And I was like, nah, he's pretty darn good.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: And he actually throws the ball really well. And he said, yeah,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: he's going to Alabama, and I said, well, he's he's
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: pretty good. He's fun to watch, I mean, so he
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: definitely stood out when he was back at Bowls, and
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm glad this organization have has him. I
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: think he's going to be a very valuable asset to have. Yeah,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: and you know, to your example there, for some reason,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Trevor's out for three for whatever games, a few games
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: in a row. He gets in there and plays at
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: a high level. Then all of a sudden, Trevor's back.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: All the trade back comes the trade deadline at some point,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Rob Johnson you got you got to look, you got
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Fred Tanner for for for Rob Johnson, you know, going
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: back a few years. But this is I think an
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: outstanding trade that that they execute. You know, I think
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: in the off season, you give I give Trent a
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: lot of credit and to two of the uh trades
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: that he did this offseason were really good. I think
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: the mac Jones is number one. And then you look
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: at the Brian Brian Thomas junior trade in the first
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: round to move back and still get him and pick
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: up all that extra equity. I mean that was those
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: were two I think outstanding trades for this organization. We're
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: back in a moment and we'll keep it real as
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: we usually do and get into contract discussions around the
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: quarterback and maybe some other positions coming up in this
• 28:22
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• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Jaguars YouTube, our final show until August. Wow, we had
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a vacation, we do. When's the
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: official first day of training camp. I think they report
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: July twenty third, Tuesday on the field of twenty fourth.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: There's that acclamation for a few days, and I think
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: pads at some point the next week. So yeah, I
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: am looking forward to training camp this year. This team,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: I think is you think you know a lot of
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: answers when you watch the off season and the OTAs,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: but you really don't know until you get the pads on,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: especially for this football team, because you know, at the
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: conclusion of last year, the two biggest questions are concerns
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: that we had is that this football team are they
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: physical enough on defense and are they physical enough on offense?
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: And it's hard to tell if they've accomplished those goals
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: until you actually see them in pads. And so now
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: on paper, it looks like they have gotten bigger, stronger,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: more physical, but until you see it, you just won't
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: know for sure. I'm excited to watch some of these
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: guys too, man, I really am. The first of all.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Brian Thomas Junior, I can't I can't wait. Jordan Jefferson,
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: big nose tackle and his running mate from LSU, the
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: two defensive tackle. I can't wait. I mean, Mason Smith
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: has shown to me and OTAs. Now, look, this is
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna make a disclaimer here. This is the underwear Olympics. Yeah, okay,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: there's no helmets, there's no pads. But he's got quick
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: feet and he's got size, and I think he's going
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: to be a big part of that defensive tackle spot
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: because you know they're making that change this year to
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: the defense where they're going to four to three. Eric
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Armstead's probably going to be playing left defensive end or
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: right defensive end, whatever the five technique end is, and
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: then you're going to have Josh and Trayvon kind of
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: sharing that role in a in a base defense, sharing
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: that role of the open side defensive end or what
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: we call the eagle side defensive end, and Pete Carroll's
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: defense back with the fourty nine ers. They used to
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: call it the elephant or e okay, just a word
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: that starts with the letter E for eagle end and
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: uh a little history therefore, thanks a lot. But it's
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: gonna be exciting to watch Mason because he's gonna have
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: a big role in this in the base defense, and
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: then obviously once you get to the sub downs, Eric
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Armstead is gonna be kicking down into the inside. I
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: think Trayvon's even going to be getting some reps on
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: the inside. And then I want to see what Mason's
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: gonna be able to do on the inside as well,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: because he's a big, big, long, strong guy and uh,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: and then Trayvon and Josh are going to be on
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: the outside. And then you can also again, uh, Trevis
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Gibson's a guy that you sign in free agency that
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: can get some reps and give you some quality on
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: the outside. So this is going to be a fun
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: unit to watch. I think it's going to be a
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: definitely bigger and stronger, more physical unit this year on defense,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: and I feel more confident about the increased power and
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: physical nature on defense offense. I'm not sure I want
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: to see it. It's time to keep it real. Insert
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: sponsor here. We're talking about contracts. Yours are mine, not mine. Oh,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: we're like pennies compared to well. They have been open
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: about the conversations between Trevor Lawrence and the Jaguars. And
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: here's the thing, just real quick about that, because I
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: know we're going to talk about some of the other
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: guys that are in a a in basically a contract situation.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of talk about Trevor's contract, but it's
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: coming from Trevor and it's coming from the organization. It's
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: coming from both. You know the old saying, where there's smoke,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: there's fire. I think that this is an imminent deal.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: I think that this could happen any in the next
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks. I think before before this team gets
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: to training camp. I think we're going to be looking
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: at that this team's gonna have a roadmap to their
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: future because they have their franchise quarterback locked up. Okay, okay,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: because that's that's the first duck that has to fall
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: for you to have a plan as far as what
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: you can spend the money on with the rest of
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: your team. Correct, Yeah, for the next tower many years,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be big money. It won't be small. What
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: did Jared Golf get a lot? I have to look,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: I want to say Jared Golf got like fifty two
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: or is that somebody's around fifty two? Is it Jared
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: goff Golf got four years, two hundred twelve million. There
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: you go, that's fifty two. Yeah, okay, Trevors will be
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: more than that. I mean that's a lot of money. Yes,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: I'm aware of it. And he's won how many playoff games? One?
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: So I mean, you know, to play devils out, but
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: advocate here. You know, some people may end up saying, ah,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: why would you give you know, somebody who's only won
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: one playoff game all that money? And it's just looky,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: he's a franchise quarterback and he's your franchise quarterback. He
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: was hurt a lot last year. They feel very confident
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: that he can be the franchise quarterback. I'm very confident
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: that he can be the franchise quarterback. I know he's
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: got the mental makeup. I don't think there's any questioning that.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: And uh, you think you can do better? Oh yeah,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: you don't want to restart the process. That's the alternative.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: You really. Look. I think he's a franchise guy, and
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: I think that they get it done before training camp.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: All right, let's keep it real. And some of these
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: other players that could be possibility or before they are
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: their free agent year of twenty twenty five, maybe it's
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: the last year of their current deal. In theory, you
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: can negotiate. So there's some names. Well, let's see Cisco Andres.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Here's the list of free agents in twenty twenty five.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Do you got Cam Robinson will be a free agent,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Walker Little right, same same dealt okay to stay of
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: that position. Brandon Sheriff, Yeah, I think you'll let that
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: contract inspire. You're not. I think that's one of those
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: things you wait and see. With him. Tyson Campbell, that's
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: one I think you've got to look at getting done.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's a premium position number one. He's played
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: very well at times, didn't have a healthy year last year.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: I think, which gives you an opportunity there. When I
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: say when it gives you an opportunity there, and then
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: I think it gives you an opportunity maybe to get
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: him a little bit below what he would be demanding
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: or commanding if he had had a really good twenty
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: twenty three, So I think that's a strong possibility. Andre Cisco.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: I like Cisco. I like Cisco a lot. Now. The
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: shoulder held him back a little bit last year along
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: the lines of Tyson Campbell. But great ball skills got
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: I think got size. He's been a good tackler on
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: the back end. I think he's a guy that you
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: want him try to lock up. The question with him
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: is is that, you know, do you want to spend
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: a lot of money at safety, because some teams have
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: the mindset that that's not a position that you spend
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: a ton of money on. Especially you've gonn have to
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: spend it at corner corner. You got to spend it on.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: But look, look, if you if you had Hamilton, you know,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: like like the Baltimore Ravens have, Yes, that's different because
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: he's not playing just safety. That's different playing center field.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: He's up on the line, he's blitzing, and he's yeah,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: he's all over the place. Give me, give me a
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: list of the Jaguars safeties that they have on the
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: roster right now. Okay, okay, I'm gonna give you one.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Antonio Johnson. Okay, Okay, feel pretty good about him, right, Yeah,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: young players, so young guy, Okay, young guys feel pretty
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: good about Andrew Winger. Team team captain, plays special teams well.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: And then the reality is that if you looked at
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: his PFF rating the last couple of years when he's
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: been on the field as a safety, a safe d
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: he's played really well. Daniel Thomas, Daniel Thomas, top and
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: top top end special teamer. Glad they extended him. Darneld
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Savage joined and free free agent. You know, so, I mean,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: you know, the question is is do you do you
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: want to get into that, Oh, do we spend a
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: lot of money on a Cisco? I like Cisco. But
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: I think that that's an interesting question. I think that's
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: a philosophy question there and and and a budget question.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: And hey, for him going into the final year of
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: his rookie contracts, hey, he's got a great opportunity. I
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: got an incredible opportunity, Like Josh Allen. It's like Josh Allen. Now,
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: last year, I get twenty a year. But yeah, let's
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: say let's say Cisco. Let's say Cisco ends up having
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: a year and he ends up with seven or eight picks. Yeah,
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: time he couldn't be better for him. Yeah, so, which
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: would be great for this team. It would be fantastic.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: I hope he gets seven or eight picks. That means
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: this defense is balling, yes, and they're taking them all
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: away balling. Yeah, I know what it means you do, Okay,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: just making sure you're making sure. I've been accused of
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: not using very hip lingo, so make sure that UK,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: come on, you're always hip. Yeah, that's what my son says. There.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: We are keeping it real contracts, big money way who
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: if you let me ask you this, if you could
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: pick one guy dot Trevor okay, not Tyson, okay, premium position,
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: if you could pick one guy from the remainder of
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: that list that you would put it a priority on
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: priority and signing, and then real quick you give me
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: give give us those names again, Okay, not Trevor, not Tyson.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: One of those names, Cam Robinson, Brandon Sheriff, Cisco, Mac Jones, Walker,
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: Little bethar Jeremiah Ledbetter, Gotsa's Hands, Caleb Johnson or guys
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: that are all free agents. In twenty five it was
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: a few others as well. Give me one guy that
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: you would put as priority number one, beyond Trevor and
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: Tyson Campbell. I mean, what's the future on the offensive line?
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: You know I'm asking you, JPGM. I mean give me
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: an answer. I'm your owner. I need an answer. Should
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: I spend my money on drafted Cisco? But what kind
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: of money can you spend? I don't want a conversation.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: I want a name. I'm thinking through it. I'm the
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: decision maker here. I don't make rash decisions. Jeff, what's
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: the future of your offensive line? That's a great question.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: Is that on this current list? I don't know. I
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: think that's a big question mark. So there may not
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: be a name on this list that's a priority. Well
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: that's fine, that would be an answer to So either
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: the no name or give me a name. I don't
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: think there's a name. Okay, So you say there's not
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: a priority on that list, I don't think so right
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: now to sign before the season? No season? Let me
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: ask you. We played Devil's advocate here? Why give everybody
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: money the devil's advocate? Okay? Since Walker Little and Cam
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: Robinson are going to be competing for the left tackle
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: JP GM, what are we going to do a left
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: tackle next year? If we don't re sign either one
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: of those guys. What are we gonna do Anton Harrison
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: plays left, okay, and then what are we gonna do
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: it in college? What are we gonna do it? Right?
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Put the guys just drafted or go get another one? Okay?
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: All right? I like my plan, okay. And I asked that,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: and I say that just to be a devil's advocate
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: because I'm okay with that. This is all hypothetical, by
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: the way. Absolutely, we're just talking in June. That's what
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: we do. That's a talk show. That's kind of the
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: whole idea of this thing. That's what I mean for
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: me in agreement with if you're not if one of
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: these two guys at left tackle doesn't play two expectations,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: or both don't, or you're just ready to make a
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: big wholesale change. You do that and but let them
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: show that and then kind of reboot. I'm sticking. I'm
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: sticking with what I've been saying for a long time.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: But I agree with you on the Anton Harrison point.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: I think he's a left tackle all day. He's got
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: great feet, he's got great athleticism, He's a natural left tackle.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: That's where he needs to be eventually. However, when Cam
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Robinson's been out there, the statistics show that they are
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: a better offensive line in football team when he's on
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: the field. That's why I'm proposing that I'm sticking with
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Anton Harrison to left tackle, but I'm going to find
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: a way to bring Cam back or walk a little
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: back at And I don't want to use this term
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: as a knock on a player, but a little bit
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: more of a team friendlier deal than what may be perceived.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: As you know, it's not it's not it's going to
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: be definitely less than sixteen seventeen million a year, But
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: I want to bring one of those guys back to
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: be my right. Can we just play the season first?
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: Do we have to do this now? He snaffed the
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: ball yet? Well, but the reason that we bring it,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: the reason that we have to talk about it is
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: now is because look, I mean this, this is the
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: time of year that you can extend guys. This is
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: the time of year. And then typically when you get
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: guys extended at this time of year, you're you're doing
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: I guess I don't want to say you're getting a
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: great deal, but you're getting it for less than you
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: would if you had to wait until next year. But
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: they hit the market, want to do it now? That's okay.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying they are. That's the case. You know,
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: bird in a hand, you know of Birch is one
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: of the bush for a player. You know, sometimes that
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: guaranteed money makes a difference and makes them jump at
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: a little less. Now, what a conversation, but it's but
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: it's you know, JP, here's the reality. These are the
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: conversations that agents and GM's are having all the time
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: right now, all the time because it's a constant, constant
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: communication to find out can they get something done for
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: the future of this organization. I mean, that's that's normal.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: You know. We we sit here and we say, well,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: you know this is can't we play the season yet?
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: But the reality is these conversations are going on all
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: the time. We're on tention, XLAM, Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube,
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: JP Shadwick, Jeff Logaman back in a moment with Microsoft questions.
• 43:46
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• 43:51
  Speaker 7: History just another bright spot on defense. Obviously, he's excited
• 44:07
  Speaker 7: about the new scheme. You know he's another one young
• 44:11
  Speaker 7: player that will be counted on, you know, even in
• 44:16
  Speaker 7: a leadership role, you know, on that defense and amongst
• 44:19
  Speaker 7: the team, and and uh, just a just a great kid,
• 44:24
  Speaker 7: I mean, just humble, hard working, wants to improve, wants
• 44:27
  Speaker 7: to get better.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Doug Peterson, Jaguars head coach on Trayvon Walker, Jaguars outside
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: linebacker who had ten sacks a season ago, and all
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: reports this offseason that he's been looking very good on
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: the practice field. Welcome Back. Final moments of Jaguars Happy
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Our JP Shatuck with Jeff Logman, Tinton Xlam Jaguars dot Com,
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: Jaguars YouTube. He's a big dude, he is. You take
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: you take Josh who's big right now? Yes, Trayvon, Eric
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: Armstead large, and Mason Smith. And let those four guys
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: be the first ones off the bus, right right. And
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: then you followed up with Devon Hamilton. Yeah, some of
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: these big wide guys, Yeah, I mean pretty good. Jordan
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: Jefferson's like a I mean three and twenty pound twenty
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: five pound guy. Yes, Devon Hamilton looks like he's about
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: three thirty about right. Eric Armstead just I mean tall, gosh,
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: it's got length, Mason Smith got length, Trayvon length, and
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: just freak size. And Josh kind of the runt of
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: the group. Yeah, but he's big. Come on, yeah, he's big.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Let's get to our Microsoft question of the day and
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: this is from at with the cat signal out on Act.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: Here's the best we came up with today at Johnny
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: rego three to two. Are there any new pieces of
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: the Jags need to add before the regular season? If so,
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: what new editions would you add on offense and defense?
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: Go Jags. I think it's a great question, because, in fact,
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: I was thinking about that yesterday a little bit, because
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw that Trey Herndon just
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: signed with the team. I believe it was the Giants, correct,
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: And uh so there are still some veteran guys that
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: are out there and available. And does this team need
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: to need to do anything? I think right now, I
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: don't see any position to where you sit there and
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: you go, you know, hey, we've got to address this.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: They did a pretty good job this offseason. They really
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: have depth whatever. So the answer to that, off the
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: tip of my tongue and off the top of my
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: head is is no. I think they're I think they're okay.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: I think you got to be careful about trying to
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: play little bit of musical chairs with your roster, and
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: and sometimes you have to stick with what you got
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: to get a good look at it, because you know,
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: you're only allowed a certain number of guys in training camp.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: And if you keep just you know, churning you know,
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: three or four or five spots, then you really you
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: really haven't even had an opportunity to evaluate some of
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: the guys, honestly. So a lot of the evaluations done
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: not so much at what they're shown to you out
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: here in practice, although some of it is, but a
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: lot of that evaluation is based upon what you've looked
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: at on film in the past of these players, but
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: now you need to see them in pads, and so
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: you know how it goes. Once camp starts, I mean,
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, the cart the roster cuts
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: begin and then the waiver process begins, and then you
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: can start maybe adding a guy here there, right Yeah,
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: So I mean there's always there's always going to be
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: opportunities to prove to improve your roster, But as of
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: right now, are there is there anybody JP's there? I
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: don't think there's a list that's even out there right now.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: This said, there's a list of available free agents. The
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: last time I looked at it, I didn't see anybody
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: on there. The one and that I went, wow, that
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: that would be a really good addition if we could
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: get that guy. Remember, like last year, at this time,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: Davian Clowney was still out there and still trying to
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: figure out where he wanted to go. I mean, is
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: there a guy like that out there? I don't know.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: I don't think there is. I don't think there is.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: You have a Microsoft Question of the Day, Yes, you're good.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: I think I think we're good. I think this team
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: is good right now. When I say good, I mean yeah,
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: you don't need to go out there and do anything crazy.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: And you know, because the reality is is that a
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: lot of the the premium talent it's gone. Man, what's
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: out there. It's kind of like what I just brought up,
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: Trey Herndon, you know, I mean, could have Trey Herndon
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: at a different position to help this football team right now.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: I think they've done a pretty good job in the
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: off season with three and see in the draft, and
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: I think I think let's ride a little bit and
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: then we'll see where we're ATAH reassess when the time
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: is right. We're done until August with this show. Veterans
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: report July twenty third on the field July twenty fourth
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: for the start of training camp. Pads will be uh
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: twenty of the week after twenty eighth, twenty ninth, something
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: like somewhere in there. Looking forward to Yeah, I'm looking
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: forward to that too. And I hope you know that
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: this is you have this period of time, you know,
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: where players have that free time, and you hope that
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: it's all used in a wise fashion, you know. I know,
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: I'm sure that Doug Peterson talked to the players about hey, look,
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: you know, take care of your bodies, take care of
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: your mind, stay out of trouble, do the right thing.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: And you know, when there's some rosters, I think that
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: you're very concerned about guys, and I've had I've watched
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: team here in the past where you're like, you know,
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's I don't know if we're
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: gonna make it through this little you know, period of
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: time for training camp and have an incident free period
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: of time. But I think this is a pretty good
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: roster of character, and I'm pretty confident that they're gonna
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: be good. We'll talk to you in a month and
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: a half. Looking forward to That's Jeff Logoman. I'm J. P. Shaddiger.
• 50:21
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• 50:25
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