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Mind the Gap · That Car Show

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  Looks like a blood sausage in one of those.
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  I'm just. Saying this week on that car
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  show, we wrap up what was a pretty epic 2025.
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  By planning for an even more epic 2026.
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  We came up with what would the ideal Car enthusiast gap year
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  look like with events every month, and we were very excited
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  to discover that at least one of us has been to most of these
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  events. So it was tough to choose a
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  favorite and I really chose more than one favorite.
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  Unsurprisingly, Ryan also just got back from another 2000 mile
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  road trip in the Toyota Crown Signia and he has thoughts.
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  That and a lot more to wrap up this year on that car show.
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  Welcome to another cruise show. We're back with a bit of a
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  special agenda this week. How's everyone doing?
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  Post Christmas, you know, recovery mode.
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  How about you guys? Well, Ryan's clearly doing very
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  well. He's got a glass of red wine in
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  his. Head makes me feel fine.
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  We're doing it wrong, Lindsay. I know clearly I just have iced
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  tea. It's not the way to go.
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  Right. I've just got Coke from
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  Chick-fil-A. But I thought this this week we
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  would do something a bit special.
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  There is a massive year next year in terms of car stuff to be
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  done. So I thought that car show
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  should take a gap year. But I think before we go into
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  what that means and what that looks like, I think we need to
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  define what a gap year is. So, Ryan, I think you had a
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  pretty good definition, didn't you?
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  Well I asked the Google and it said bear with me.
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  Had it right in front of me. It's been I should preferably.
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  I didn't have a gap year personally, right?
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  I mean, I didn't know what I was doing at that age.
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  I could have benefited from a gap year or three.
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  But. So for those of you who don't
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  know when I give it the GOOG. The GOOG replied with the
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  purpose of a gap year is to provide an international break
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  for personal growth, exploration and skill building to foster
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  maturity, clarity and motivation.
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  Allowing individuals to gain real world experience, clarity,
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  clarify goals, recharge and develop crucial life, slash
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  career skills before diving into further education or work.
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  It's a period for self discovery through activities to foster a
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  stronger sense of purpose. And boy, I could use all.
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  Those things so so Lindsay, have you done a gap year?
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  I have not that was, I think it was just starting to like the
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  concept was just kind of making its way to the states towards
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  the end of my time in university.
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  So it was not really a thing the way it is now, or common.
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  But you did study abroad, right? I did, I was in England for a
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  semester in college so that was like a mini gap year.
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  We've set the level because none of us have done a gap year yet,
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  right? So.
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  So this is where our. Gap year.
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  Implies. Or two, yeah, an automotive gap
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  year with a purpose to provide personal growth, exploration,
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  skill building, clarity and motivation, allowing us to gain
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  real world experience. So what I thought we'd do is we
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  would plan our gap year as a group.
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  In essence, all our gap year activities need to be
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  correlated. So what we're going to do is
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  we're going to make some recommendations based on the
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  months. I know some of these
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  recommendations some of us have done.
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  So I'll ask you to share your experiences and we will plan out
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  that car show's gap year. Are you guys in for this?
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  I'm game. Let's do it.
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  Awesome. So let's take us to January.
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  Fall into the gap. Fall into yeah, don't please
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  mind the gap, as we would say in England.
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  Here we go. 1st on the gap here, International Experiences is
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  retro Mobile in Paris. Now, Lindsay, you've been to
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  this event, so tell us a little bit about the event and whether
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  you would go back. So I would absolutely go back.
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  Last year was my first year. I have gotten to know Ramall who
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  runs the event and after hearing about it for many years from
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  him, got to go last year with my friend Laura and it is a must
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  see event and it's a fantastic excuse to go to Paris.
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  So if I had had more time I would have gone.
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  I would have gotten there like the weekend before Retro Mobile
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  because it starts on a Wednesday and goes until Sunday and there
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  is plenty at the event to hold your attention that entire time
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  because it is a massive, massive.
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  It's like multiple convention halls just outside of Paris.
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  It's very accessible from the center of town.
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  You can just use the metro. So it's super easy to be right
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  in the center of town, get to the event, go check it out, and
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  then you can also do all of the things in Paris.
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  But the event itself is so varied and there's so much to
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  see. You know, I really just had a
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  day there and I covered a lot of ground and got to like, I got a
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  very good sense of the event overall, but definitely could
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  have spent more time because it's like a combination of SEMA
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  and there's a live auction going on.
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  And then there are, you know, because there's like when we
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  went to the LA Auto Show and there was the, the area with all
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  of the Matchbox cars and they have people with different parts
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  and they have a lot of different like European auction houses.
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  We'll bring some of the cars that they have and then you've
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  got people like, you know, the European like got their works
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  and singer and that kind of thing.
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  There are, you know, all manner of classic cars.
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  And then in another area they had there was a band like as
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  part of one of the displays. And then they had people on old
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  timey bicycles. They had historical vehicles on
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  display from, you know, wartime. Like it's obviously it's hard to
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  put it into a succinct description because there is so
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  much to see and there's so much variety, but cannot say enough
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  good things about it. And I think the really cool
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  thing was that we ran into like a significant number of friends
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  from the States. So it's the draw.
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  It's kind of like car week in the sense that people do travel
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  a long ways to get there. And so you get to see friends
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  from Europe and friends from the States.
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  And like, I think it's a fantastic way to kick off the
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  gap year. But what I didn't realize until
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  I got there is that because it's such a draw, a lot of the
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  auction houses will do a big European auction in Paris before
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  the event starts or right when the event starts.
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  I think RMS auction was like maybe a day or two before I got
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  there, and then I think Christie's had one.
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  So there's a lot going on in Paris adjacent to the event,
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  kind of like what happens here with some of the events where
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  the auction houses will do an auction in the town where the
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  events happening because they know everybody's already going
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  to be there. Ryan, does that sort of thing
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  appeal to you? I mean, he had who had me at old
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  timey bicycles, right? I mean, who doesn't like a penny
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  Farthing I? Know.
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  Right. I would love to go.
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  I mean, you know, it's it's it sounds like a great event.
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  Everyone that I've ever known who's gone has said it's
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  fantastic. Just kind of overwhelms the
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  senses, right. There's probably some French way
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  to say that that's even more impressive.
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  But hey, my yeah, it seems. Yeah, that's there you go.
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  It seems pretty great. And I would like to go sometime.
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  Obviously, you know, it's a little tougher than you know,
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  going to Carmel. But aren't we going to have them
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  on the show? The organizers at some?
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  Point yes, that's the plan, so we can hear it straight from
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  that, but in the meantime, you'll have to make do with my
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  attempts at describing it putting.
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  It into two words, yeah. I I trust we can get 3 media
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  passes. Right, that's right, true
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  mobile. Not just an excuse to drink wine
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  and smelly eat smelly cheese. But let's and if I need an
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  excuse for that. Yeah, right.
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  The next one on the list is Scottsdale Car Week.
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  So this is, you know, another event that is raved about by our
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  friend Jorge. Have you guys heard about this
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  event? I have heard about it but I have
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  not attended. The City of Love in the US.
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  Scottsdale. Scottsdale, culture capital of
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  the American West. I you know, I've never yeah,
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  I've never been. Jorge raves about it.
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  It's always fun to hang out with him.
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  Of course, I'm kind of on the fence this year whether or not
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  to go because I think it's, it sounds like it's primarily
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  auction driven, right? And, you know, it's a little
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  more inclusive, right, maybe than some of the auctions that,
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  you know, say Car Week or, or Amelia or something.
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  I don't know. I mean, you got the good
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  weather, right? It's the time of the year when
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  you want to go and get some sunshine and some rays.
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  So. And I mean, yeah, I don't know,
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  maybe this will be the year neither one of you have been
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  right? Correct.
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  Yeah, I've not. Lindsay, does it appeal to you?
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  It was not something that I was aware of really until last year
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  and I would love to check it out at some point.
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  I think at this point, with it kind of coming right on the
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  heels of the holidays, it's trickier to arrange, but I would
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  love to visit in the near future.
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  Well, I am planning to go at the moment, so I will take one for
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  the team and and see what it's like and see what's going on.
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  The. Next one, yeah, I'll report back
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  and and see whether it's worth doing.
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  The next one isn't on our list, but I thought about it.
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  So Meekum's have an auction in Kissimmee, FL in January.
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  The big ticket items 250 GTO that.
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  White one that didn't. Dry.
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  They've been pimping that thing out for, what, two years?
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  Yeah, it did an. Amazing thing it's going.
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  To be last year, wasn't it, Lindsay?
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  Possibly. 250 GTA. It's been carried in the in
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  Europe. Yeah, I think it was.
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  I think it was at the Avant Classics on the Green over the
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  summer. Quite probably, Yeah, quite
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  probably. It's a a Pacific Northwest based
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  car. Well, that would be.
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  John Shirley. And it's a beautiful, beautiful
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  car. And the beautiful car is it gets
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  taken out. So Fred Russell, who's the the
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  guy who looks after the car, gets to drive on behalf of the
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  owner and he takes it to cars and coffee and stuff.
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  So it'll be a real shame if it sells because it means it will
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  leave the Pacific Northwest. Yeah.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Didn't we see that during car
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  week though at Mecum? I'm not imagining that, right?
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  I had never been to a Meekum auction before.
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  You know, I, I, I don't want to say grown up watching Meekum
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  auctions on television, but you know, I kind of did.
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  And, and so it was interesting to actually go to a Meekum
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  event. Who was I with?
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  Was I not with you guys? No, I never.
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  I must have been with Michael Assassin.
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  Oh, Collin Sekle I think was. That Oh yeah, Collin.
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  And so we did go and they wouldn't let us in without
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  paying, even though it was like an hour that the auction was
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  done and the doors were going to close and Albert was still to
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  pay 20 bucks. And I had other media passes
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  that no, no, everyone has to pay.
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  So it's just kind of a different vibe.
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  And they had that white car out in the middle of the field, you
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  know, but it was surrounded by. So Meekum is different from any
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  other auction I've ever been to because it's a spectrum of
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  offerings, right? And so there they had that
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  beautiful GTO, but then they had like, you know, the world's best
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  Toyota Paseo, right? You know, a few cars down and,
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  and then, you know, you really wanted that Monte Carlo s s you
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  didn't get in high school. Well, you know, there are three
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  of them. It's such a, it's such a, an
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  amalgam of, of, of different types of cars.
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  So yeah, it's it's an adventure for sure, but I don't know that
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  I'd make a point of of going cross country for it.
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  Yeah, it's interesting that because last year they had Jerry
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  Seinfeld's 917. You guys.
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  Remember the one from the film Le Mans, the Steve McQueen Carr?
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  And that it didn't sell, but then sold privately?
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  That's right. So they're getting a few big
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  hitters. So yeah, I hear kissing.
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  He's nice this time of year. Yeah, now I just wish they'd get
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  rid of those shiny black golf shirts they all wear.
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  They're they, they don't photograph well on television.
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  Right. Well, if you're listening, if
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  you could send one to Ryan, please.
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  Yeah, we'll make sure he wears it on the show.
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  That'll be his standard Dark Heart Go recording.
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  Up blood sausage in one of those I'm just.
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  Saying when we get the title, Yeah, haven't we?
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  Who doesn't love blood sausage? We called it black pudding.
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  Oh, black pudding. OK.
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  Yeah. All right.
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  I had to think about what you were talking about the first.
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  And we did not really even hear. So other events in January, the
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  start of the Dakar. So this is one of the world's
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  most famous rally races. It used to be that it would
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  start on New Year's Day in Paris, Paris, as they say, and
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  it would drive down to Dakar in Africa.
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  But they now move it around a lot.
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  And I think it's starting in Saudi Arabia.
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  But interestingly, which brand are going to be taking a Nook to
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  there? Defender.
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  Land Rover. Land Rover Different.
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  Competing this year, aren't they?
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  So we wish them the best of luck and you know, obviously they
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  they've got a pretty cool car to do it in.
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  Super cool, I like to. Attend.
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  I got to Sarah Price at the Destination Defender.
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  She's one of the official drivers.
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  So I will be very closely. But yeah, Ryan, I would love to
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  go to this too. So I think the consensus is
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  right that Car Show would love to be there.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Sam Allen, who's who leads to the
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  Defender brand here in in the States was on a couple episodes
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  ago. If you if you missed it, go
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  back, but kind of got me excited about, you know, Defenders and,
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  and, and just the, you know, that event in particular.
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  I mean, that's, that's one of those epic things, right?
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  Like that's that's funny. We all grew up seeing footage,
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  right, of those races and. OSHA 959, right?
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  That was, yeah. That's iconic stuff.
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  I mean, you know, there's the Dakar Porsche, right, or the
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  Dakar or whatever you know, you want to call it.
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  I mean it's that's a some of those iconic events, right?
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  But I think so few people get to check that back box off right?
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  It's, it's not like, you know, going to the Indy 500 or
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  whatever, but. Which is also a good option.
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  Yeah, jumping. Too far ahead?
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  You were jumping too far ahead with a different one.
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  Yeah, speaking. Indianapolis a little more
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  accessible, yeah. Yeah, if we go to February, our
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  friend Ferdie Porsche has his event in February, the FAT Ice
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  racing. The big difference year on year
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  is that it's moved. So I think it was in your neck
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  of the woods, Ryan. It was, it was just outside of
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  Aspen, I think Carbondale technically, but you know, all
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  the, all the, all the, all the merch, said Aspen.
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  Of course. I mostly went for the Porsche
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  party, but it was it was fun. I mean, that was, you know,
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  Aspen's always a trip anyway, right?
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  It's the celeb sightings and and everything else.
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  Remember the year I went, there really wasn't enough snow or
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  ice, right? So they they had the event at a
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  Christmas tree farm just outside of town.
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  Like I said in in Carbondale and yeah, it's, again, it's one of
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  those rich guy things, right? Like, you know, Paris to Dakar
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  or whatever. It's like, you know, the vast
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  majority of enthusiasts will never, you know, be able to
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  participate or watch, you know, some of these events this year.
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  It's up in Montana. Yeah.
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  Yeah. So I don't know that.
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  So I think last year there were two issues.
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  One was the lack of snow and the other one was permitting.
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  So they leased the grounds and they couldn't permit for lots of
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  people. So it meant that they had to
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  push the ticket prices up. My understanding is that this
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  year they have the ability to sell multiple tickets.
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  So it's going to become as much as Montana in February is
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  accessible, it's going to become more accessible for the racing
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  and then look out for some some famous folks in cars.
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  So I know that Jeff Swartz signed up.
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  Oh, there you go. And Matt Farah is taking his
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  Myers minx. He is.
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  OK, Cool. Yeah.
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  That's amazing. Yeah.
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  So there's a there's going to be a lot of YouTube social media
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  stuff going on. Yeah.
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  Yeah, it'll be a scene and it'll be heavily merchandised, a lot
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  of puffy jackets and that kind of thing.
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  I mean, it's it's I think it's less about the racing and, and
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  more about the event, right scene and that kind of thing.
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  But yeah, it's a cool thing. You know, again, it's like, you
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  know, I don't know the, the, the, the, the Myers air, you
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  know, boat plane and that I mean, it's this is just like
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  another level different echelon of like, you know, passing time.
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  And this is definitely in. That.
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  Category. But if you if you get to go, you
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  know it'll be great. I'm sure it'll be a a a blast
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  and I'm sure the Porsche party will be fun too.
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  So never seen a spread like the spread I saw at that Porsche
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  party. Just like a conference table
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  full of all. The mess of.
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  Everything. Like yes.
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  You Were you eating sushi off of naked women or.
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  There were people dancing around playing electric violins.
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  There were, wow. I don't know.
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  It was. It was, Yeah.
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  It was a scene, man. This was a hotel takeover by
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  Porsche, right? And they even brought their own
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  art in. Is that right?
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  Really. Oh.
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  I'll never forget. God, it's coming back to me now.
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  Yeah, yeah. I enjoyed myself.
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  So some of it is the memories are a little spotty, but shout
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  out Dan McGinnis, who I think we mentioned on every show.
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  I shared a room with him. He traded in a bunch of points.
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  So we stayed at the hotel where the the party was.
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  So you could fully enjoy the party.
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  Fully enjoyed, you know, the bouncers they took, we got there
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  a little early. And so we actually saw as they
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  went through the whole hotel, took all the artwork, you know,
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  the wild horses and the pine trees and all that down and
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  replaced it all with, with the bespoke Porsche art, which I'd
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  never seen, you know, So it was, it was definitely curated.
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  Yeah. And ran into a shocking amount
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  of people that I knew interested.
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  Crazy thing. So it was a good time, but I
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  saw. Very little.
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  The actual racing, I will confess so.
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  Well, it always looks like an amazing event.
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  Like every time I see the pictures, you know, afterwards
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  the the FOMO is very strong, which is not always the case.
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  But yeah, it just, it looks like definitely, even if you only got
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  to go once, like it's definitely something that would love to
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  attend. Yeah, yeah, shout out Josh Fu,
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  my friend from Minneapolis who I know is going.
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  And hey, if I, if I can work something to figure something,
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  I'll absolutely go. But Aspen was a little closer
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  than Montana, so yeah. Well, if you're not really into
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  the cold, what about the warm? The 24 Hours of Daytona?
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  Lindsay, have you done this one? I have.
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  I have been there three times. Yes, years ago the last time I
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  was there I had a one year old with me.
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  So it is definitely doable. It's very family friendly.
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  You can, you can go the family friendly route or not, but it is
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  again, it's another one that like you really need to
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  experience it once in your lifetime and plan to stay up
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  late because it's just cool to be there and see, you know, as
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  they start racing into the night and the way that changes just
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  the experience and you can walk around the track and see it
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  from, you know, a lot of different angles and go up in
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  the grandstands and. Ideally, if you have access, you
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  get to go into the pits and see that and it's there.
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  Again, like you were talking about different levels at the
• 20:24
  Fat Ice Rays, there are people that go and they camp in the
• 20:28
  infield at Daytona. So again, there's lots of
• 20:33
  different ways to experience it. And you know, if you've done a
• 20:36
  24 hour endurance event, it's, it's very unique to that type of
• 20:43
  experience. Like, it's not like anything
• 20:45
  else, but it's so cool you got to do it.
• 20:50
  My spies tell me the way to do it is to do it with Lamborghini.
• 20:53
  Lamborghini have a ticket that you get put up in the hotel
• 20:58
  which is next to the track. You get golf carted to the
• 21:02
  track, you then take an elevator up to an observation level and
• 21:07
  it's just you and the spotters for each team and you get to see
• 21:11
  the race from a really elevated position.
• 21:13
  So Lamborghini, if you're listening, I'm available and
• 21:17
  willing to cover it for that car show.
• 21:19
  I've got a couple of friends who you might bring with me.
• 21:23
  That's the way to do it. So you've got two options there.
• 21:25
  You can go for the cold and the ice racing, or you can go for
• 21:29
  hopefully the warmth of the the 24 Hours, which is the, I guess
• 21:32
  it's the American version of Le Mans, isn't it?
• 21:34
  Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 21:36
  I mean, it's a 24 hour, you know, endurance race.
• 21:39
  Yeah. I mean, yeah, with a lot of
• 21:42
  history, yeah. I mean in that track, you know,
• 21:45
  and you can see like when you go, they used to do part of that
• 21:49
  event, the Daytona racing used to be on the beach, the actual
• 21:52
  beach at Daytona. So there's a lot of you can see
• 21:55
  the historical photographs and kind of, you know, learn the
• 21:58
  history of how it has evolved in the area.
• 22:01
  And it's, yeah, again, there's so much history.
• 22:04
  Like when I was at Lamont. It's just you can feel it when
• 22:06
  you're there. And so you have to go and
• 22:09
  experience it. But I was going to say,
• 22:12
  depending on the calendar, why wouldn't you do both?
• 22:16
  Like do the cold and the warm, right?
• 22:20
  I mean it was a gap year or not. This is our gap year.
• 22:23
  We can do whatever we want. Yeah.
• 22:25
  It does seem like a lot of these events are on the East Coast
• 22:27
  though, because if I look into March, right, Amelia, which is
• 22:32
  Amelia Island, which is a concourse event and it's kind of
• 22:34
  like the first concourse of the year.
• 22:36
  Right. That's that's on the East Coast
• 22:39
  in Florida and and have you both been or is it just Ryan?
• 22:43
  Just Ryan. And I've only been once.
• 22:46
  I'm no expert. We went.
• 22:48
  It was a year and a half ago, two years ago on an.
• 22:52
  Electric car, that is that right?
• 22:56
  Yeah. I'm bringing back all.
• 22:57
  It's like a rippy session. For me, right?
• 23:01
  Yeah, In fact, I had reserved a pole star and was very
• 23:03
  disappointed when I showed up and they got a Kia electric.
• 23:07
  But that's OK because I ended up with I guess a pole star.
• 23:11
  But I. Was going to say the rest of the
• 23:13
  point is that you had to buy the car yourself.
• 23:18
  Yeah, Yeah, I was going to make it happen.
• 23:19
  That's the place, though, that they just at least at the time,
• 23:22
  two years ago, did not have the infrastructure for EV charging,
• 23:25
  especially when a large event is going on, it just doesn't exist.
• 23:30
  And so once you get outside of what is it, Jacksonville there,
• 23:34
  you know, and you, you drive, you know, a bit too, Amelia,
• 23:37
  that's that's kind of it. I recall there was one public
• 23:41
  charging place in the whole town.
• 23:43
  It had two 2 lines, 2 cords, whatever.
• 23:47
  It was owned by the city. It was like on the side of the
• 23:50
  City Hall and they were slow chargers.
• 23:52
  So it was what I have in my garage here.
• 23:55
  So I remember waiting until one freed up and then having to park
• 23:58
  the car and then lifting back to the hotel.
• 24:01
  It was a whole whole thing. I thought I was being slick.
• 24:04
  But as an event, it's a lot of fun.
• 24:06
  It it's, you know, there's some parallels to, to car week,
• 24:09
  right? Monterey and that kind of thing.
• 24:10
  But it's a much smaller scale. The you know, the Concord, the
• 24:15
  event was great. It's of course at, you know, the
• 24:17
  Amelia Island Golf Club. I think it is.
• 24:20
  It's a Ritz Carlton, if I'm not mistaken.
• 24:22
  I'll Fact Check that. And it's it's fun.
• 24:26
  But like I said, it rained the whole time we were there.
• 24:28
  I'd like to go back sometime when it's out.
• 24:32
  But it's an iconic location, right?
• 24:34
  It's it's definitely one of those things you have to do
• 24:37
  once. It's definitely a lot more low
• 24:39
  key than than than car week, right.
• 24:41
  So there's there's that. I think it'd be a fun trip for
• 24:43
  the three of us to go sometime. I'm game, yeah.
• 24:47
  Yeah, yeah, some good auction action and and that kind of
• 24:50
  thing. And, and a couple people have
• 24:52
  asked why I have the CBS Sunday Morning hat behind me.
• 24:57
  And that's because when I was there, CBS Sunday Morning were
• 25:01
  there, they were following the, the school in, in Kansas the
• 25:08
  that they went to. Oh, McPherson College.
• 25:13
  McPherson McPherson College So CBS Sunday Morning we're
• 25:16
  following McPherson College and that was the year that they had
• 25:19
  started with the car and, and brought it all the way to Amelia
• 25:24
  to be auctioned. And so it was.
• 25:26
  So anyway, I ended up talking to the guys and, and, and they gave
• 25:30
  me the hat, which is pretty cool because.
• 25:31
  I were you on TV? No, no, no, no, no.
• 25:34
  I just talked to them off the off the, you know, I think they
• 25:38
  came up to me and I looked as out of place as they did in that
• 25:40
  auction. And we kind of bonded on that or
• 25:45
  bounded over that, you know, and really nice people.
• 25:49
  But yeah, that's that's my Amelia Island.
• 25:52
  Memory and I was down the road last year from Amelia Island and
• 25:57
  they had a massive thunderstorm come in on the Sunday, so they
• 26:00
  actually brought everything forward.
• 26:02
  The. Event took place on the Saturday
• 26:06
  which the net net was. I was doing the Daytona 200
• 26:10
  which is the bike version of the Daytona.
• 26:13
  Flight. It's not a 24 hour race.
• 26:16
  It's, you know, it's an, an afternoon's race.
• 26:19
  But I, I got to the airport and basically everyone who was
• 26:23
  anyone from Amelia had come to the airport trying to get
• 26:30
  flights home early because there was a thunderstorm coming in and
• 26:32
  stuff. So there were people like Ralph
• 26:34
  Jills and people like that in the the lounge.
• 26:38
  But if you've not done the Daytona 200, it's a bike race
• 26:42
  that is 57 laps. And then the net result is the
• 26:46
  first three bikes are within seconds of each other after that
• 26:49
  number of laps and they have to do a pit stop.
• 26:51
  And it's a great event. So you could do both in theory
• 26:56
  if you wanted to, yeah. And then I threw in a wild trip
• 26:59
  that we could potentially take, which would be to go to the
• 27:02
  other side of the world and kick off the F1 season in Australia.
• 27:06
  Yeah. Does that sound perfect?
• 27:08
  Let's do it. So I'm just, yeah.
• 27:10
  Yeah, yeah, let's do it. We like Australians in
• 27:13
  Australia. Let's do it.
• 27:17
  I've never been would love to go sometime.
• 27:19
  I I think that would be a real adventure, right.
• 27:22
  I mean, just, I don't know. Yeah.
• 27:24
  Talk about like, you know, taking you out of the ordinary.
• 27:26
  And I think that would be killer.
• 27:29
  Have either of you been convert since Netflix?
• 27:32
  I have not, but I feel like maybe it's only because I
• 27:36
  haven't gone to kick off the season in Australia, so that's
• 27:39
  how I'm going to, you know, that would.
• 27:42
  Make me an F1 fan for life. Right.
• 27:45
  I just think it's so funny that all these people are like F1
• 27:48
  proclaimed fans and you know, their only real reference point
• 27:51
  is that a drama laden TV show on Netflix which has done a great
• 27:54
  job for the sport. Right.
• 27:57
  I kind of think they're experts and.
• 28:00
  There's so much more to it. On the Street is there might be
• 28:02
  another series gaining the Netflix Netflix spotlight soon
• 28:06
  so. Let's see.
• 28:08
  Stay tuned. No, that's all I can say.
• 28:11
  Watch it too much. Yeah.
• 28:14
  Watch this. Anyway, yeah, yeah, you nearly
• 28:18
  got some inside baseball, but not quite.
• 28:20
  It's the it's the, it's the race to be the best automotive
• 28:23
  podcast world and. We.
• 28:26
  Follow Fledgling. Feel like we're, we're the the
• 28:32
  winning tortoise, yeah. Lindsay.
• 28:38
  I think we need to get Ryan to drink a couple more glasses of
• 28:40
  red wine and we'll find out more about that.
• 28:41
  I was going to say yeah, unfortunately we're not.
• 28:44
  There isn't enough of the secret spilling juice yet, but yeah,
• 28:49
  we'll. Get that, come back to that
• 28:51
  later. Yeah, I've got a whole Kirkland
• 28:53
  large bottle of the truth serum in the in the house here, so.
• 28:58
  Perfect. Why?
• 28:59
  You know, that's what I want to know.
• 29:02
  You need those glasses. Where are you?
• 29:05
  And then one in your mouth. Yeah, here.
• 29:08
  We go well guys, you know, I went to the doctor recently and
• 29:11
  I got my blood tests and you know, I've got to cut back
• 29:14
  somewhere. So you know if this means I'm
• 29:15
  drinking red wine instead of burping, That's.
• 29:19
  I was going to say it is healthy.
• 29:21
  Choices, isn't it? That's.
• 29:22
  Healthy choice, right? You know.
• 29:24
  We have the paragons of health here at that car show, Yeah.
• 29:26
  That's that's yeah, that's a little bit.
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• 30:14
  Let's move on. So, so far we've done January,
• 30:16
  February, March, April, few different things in April and
• 30:20
  actually we get to go on the West Coast a little bit, so Long
• 30:24
  Beach Grand Prix. Has anyone done that?
• 30:27
  I have. Yes.
• 30:30
  Yep, and. Is it a street circuit?
• 30:35
  They so they create the circuit on the streets of Long Beach.
• 30:38
  So a lot of the streets are shut down to create the racetrack,
• 30:41
  which again, it makes it a really unique event.
• 30:43
  I think. I think that's what's so
• 30:45
  interesting is when you look at the automotive calendar across
• 30:48
  the board, like the variety of events and how different they
• 30:52
  are from each other, you could have a truly amazing year with
• 30:55
  so many different things. And, you know, I think that's
• 30:59
  what makes the Long Beach Grand Prix so cool is it's the track
• 31:05
  is built on the streets of Long Beach and you get real, real
• 31:10
  race drivers come and do the event.
• 31:12
  It's not, you know, this isn't like AI don't know what you'd
• 31:16
  call it, but like, it's a real event with real drivers.
• 31:18
  I think Jensen Button, I think was one of the drivers last
• 31:22
  year. I know like, Mario Andretti has
• 31:25
  driven there. Like if you can think of a
• 31:28
  driver, they've probably driven there at some point.
• 31:30
  I know Patrick Dempsey was driving years ago when he was
• 31:35
  before. You know, he's getting back into
• 31:37
  it now, but when he was actively racing, he drove there.
• 31:41
  That's and it's just cool because it's again like there's
• 31:45
  an infield and they have, you know, funnel cake and like fried
• 31:48
  Oreos. But then you can also be up in
• 31:50
  the suites where it's very elegant.
• 31:52
  So it's, again, there's a lot of variety.
• 31:55
  You can have whatever level you want and it's just cool.
• 31:59
  So yeah, I recommend it. You know, what I remember about
• 32:03
  the Long Beach Grand Prix growing up was that they always
• 32:06
  televised it. But more exciting was than the
• 32:08
  race itself was the Toyota Celica celebrity race with like
• 32:12
  Bruce Jenner and Alfonso Ribeiro, right?
• 32:14
  Like, you know, bumping into each other in these like, like
• 32:19
  1988 Celicas or whatever. That was pretty cool.
• 32:23
  So if they were to bring that back, which cars would they use?
• 32:26
  Like happy 80 sixes, right? Yeah, could be fun.
• 32:31
  Yeah. It could be fun or it could be
• 32:34
  the car that you took on your road trip, Ryan.
• 32:38
  Everyone with a crown Insignia. Crown Insignia Celebrity race.
• 32:44
  I'd watch it. Would be something.
• 32:48
  Yeah, it would be more of an insurance race, wouldn't it?
• 32:52
  Uh huh. Yeah, yeah.
• 32:53
  That that car has a range of over 400 miles and it has a gas
• 32:58
  tank. I think that's 12 gallons.
• 33:00
  So you do the math. That that thing.
• 33:02
  Whoa, that thing. Yeah, I think we'll go.
• 33:06
  That's impressive. Ryan has just come back from his
• 33:08
  holiday travels in in this car, so he's got a first hand
• 33:13
  experience of, of what it was like and it sounds like it's
• 33:18
  it's one for the economy. Holiday makes it sound, you
• 33:22
  know, more glamorous than it is. Yeah, it was interesting.
• 33:26
  You know, it's not a bad car. The problem is, you know, no one
• 33:29
  knows about this thing. Toyota doesn't mark it as as the
• 33:32
  wagon that it is. Instead, they market it as a
• 33:34
  crossover, an SUV. And I think the other thing that
• 33:37
  doesn't quite work for me is that the Crown sedan is a lovely
• 33:40
  thing because it offers a 340 horsepower, 360 horsepower
• 33:45
  hybrid option. But the wagon, the bigger,
• 33:49
  heavier version, only comes with the smaller, the 236 horsepower
• 33:52
  powertrain. So and it's, and it's, you know,
• 33:56
  it's, I'm not a big fan of of hybrids outside of like the
• 34:00
  McLaren world, right? And you know.
• 34:04
  One has to have standards. Yeah, no, no, it's, it's a great
• 34:08
  car. It's I drove this thing so
• 34:10
  almost 2000 miles to Minneapolis and back with my family.
• 34:15
  It makes a lot of noise as it groans.
• 34:18
  You know, it takes some time, you know, entrance ramps, you
• 34:20
  know, on the highway and this kind of thing.
• 34:23
  All these things would have been solved by the bigger engine,
• 34:25
  which unfortunately you can't get.
• 34:28
  You know, it was, it was fine. It was a good car with gas is
• 34:31
  like 2-2 dollars in this part of the the country.
• 34:34
  Like here to Minneapolis. I think I saw as as low as $1.85
• 34:38
  for a gallon of regular gas. So I don't know that I spent
• 34:41
  $100 in gas over 2000 miles, which is just shocking.
• 34:46
  Someone will call me on that math, but but you know, as far
• 34:50
  as a family cruiser, it was it was good, but I think it would
• 34:54
  have been a really good car with a bigger engine.
• 34:57
  I learned on the last day I had it.
• 34:59
  If you engage sport mode, that solves a lot of the issues
• 35:01
  because you know, it accelerates a little more quickly.
• 35:05
  You know, the engine doesn't turn off at at at every, you
• 35:07
  know, stop light this kind of. Thing.
• 35:10
  But how can you argue with, you know, 31 miles to the gallon or
• 35:13
  whatever it was, you know, you know, and this you know, the
• 35:16
  highway, the, the speed is either the, the, the speed limit
• 35:19
  is 80 miles an hour on part of this trip.
• 35:21
  So you're doing 85 or 90 or more or whatever, right?
• 35:24
  So the fact that we achieved 31 miles.
• 35:26
  Allegedly. That's right.
• 35:28
  That's right. Yeah.
• 35:29
  You know, it, it didn't enjoy it, but it did, It did do it.
• 35:34
  I, I think, you know, like all these trips, sometimes, you
• 35:36
  know, it's less about the car and more about the journey.
• 35:40
  And this time we opted just for, you know, I'll write an article
• 35:43
  for Autoblog. So I need different locations
• 35:44
  for, for photos and this kind of thing.
• 35:46
  So this time we came back through South Dakota as opposed
• 35:49
  to to Nebraska and we got to see such wonders as the world's
• 35:54
  largest Jolly Green Giant statue.
• 35:58
  It's the the the vegetable brand is is in southwestern Minnesota.
• 36:02
  So we got a picture with that. We someone on Instagram, though,
• 36:08
  said the other day they said America is giving off dead, dead
• 36:12
  mall vibes at the moment, right. And that's all like, I thought
• 36:15
  that was such a perfect sort of, you know, and that's the kind of
• 36:18
  the vibe we got the whole way back driving across South Dakota
• 36:21
  and western Nebraska and some of these parts of the country
• 36:23
  where, you know, the towns are dying and it's just, you know,
• 36:28
  the towns are few and far between.
• 36:29
  And, and it was just, it was a, it was a little tougher to find
• 36:34
  places to take pictures right on this, on this route, if you can
• 36:38
  believe it, you know, versus Nebraska.
• 36:43
  So it was, you know, we, we stopped at one place.
• 36:46
  It was the, we said, what is this memorial on the side of the
• 36:49
  road looks like a War Memorial or something from like, you
• 36:51
  know, post Soviet Russia or something, you know, and it was
• 36:55
  a, a giant memorial because in 1974, this small town where we
• 37:01
  had stopped was the was the location of the World Plowing
• 37:05
  Championship. Who knew?
• 37:08
  I guess who knew? So I got a picture of that.
• 37:12
  But, you know, it was just, it was, you forget that there's a
• 37:15
  whole world outside of Los Angeles or Seattle or even
• 37:17
  Denver, right? And most people, you know, are,
• 37:21
  are living a life that is, is very different from the ones we
• 37:25
  live and live in the cars we do and all that.
• 37:27
  And so it was a real sort of really brought me back down to
• 37:30
  earth, both the car and the journey.
• 37:32
  So, yeah, some some niggling small things about this car, a
• 37:35
  lot of wind noise from the windows at higher speeds.
• 37:38
  The engine will get you there, but it just doesn't sound like
• 37:41
  it's, you know, enjoying the the process.
• 37:43
  A lot of groans and, and just things turning on and off and
• 37:47
  that kind of thing. What else?
• 37:49
  Seats are really comfortable. I got to give Toyota a ton of
• 37:52
  credit for improving seats. A generation ago, I could not
• 37:55
  get comfortable in any Toyota seat.
• 37:58
  I know that they've put a lot of money into making better seating
• 38:01
  and it and it shows. I think might be my biggest
• 38:04
  disappointment about the car was the ride we had stopped at, you
• 38:09
  know, Costco, you know, with the car had that the back hatch full
• 38:12
  of groceries and you hit a bump and it like all the groceries
• 38:17
  like levitate for a second and they come back down.
• 38:19
  It was just you. Know the damping.
• 38:20
  Or whatever it just seemed. Yeah.
• 38:22
  Yeah. You know, just, I haven't.
• 38:26
  Yeah. Well, I hadn't experienced that
• 38:27
  in a car in years. Right.
• 38:29
  I mean, most cars now are pretty buttoned down, even if they have
• 38:32
  a a hard ride. But you know that that was.
• 38:36
  And then there's one section of I-80 in northeastern Colorado.
• 38:40
  If any of you listening travel this, you know where it is, it's
• 38:42
  near Sterling. It's 20 miles of some of the
• 38:44
  roughest pavement, you know, in the Interstate.
• 38:46
  It's the the roughest 20 miles of anything between here and
• 38:49
  Minneapolis. And that's saying something.
• 38:50
  Minneapolis is not known for good roads.
• 38:52
  And there is this section, it's 20 miles long or so.
• 38:55
  And it's almost unbearable. It used to be you get in the
• 38:57
  passing lane and kind of hang out there if you had to and it
• 38:59
  was a little smoother. But now they're both really
• 39:01
  rough. And what I thought was
• 39:02
  interesting was 4 weeks ago for Thanksgiving, we had this
• 39:05
  Genesis GV 70, which I really enjoyed and that ride, and it's
• 39:09
  not the best riding car in the world, but we thought they had
• 39:11
  repaired that stretch of Rd. because we didn't feel the bumps
• 39:13
  at all. And then the Toyota, it was just
• 39:16
  bone rattling. And so I don't know if that that
• 39:19
  means the Toyota doesn't have a great ride or the Genesis had an
• 39:21
  exceptionally good ride, but that was something else, you
• 39:25
  know, but it's a good looking thing.
• 39:27
  I've heard this car described as like a Lexus on a budget.
• 39:31
  It is not. It doesn't have that refined
• 39:33
  driving experience. What it really is, is it's the
• 39:36
  replacement for the Toyota Venza.
• 39:38
  If you remember, if you remember.
• 39:39
  Yeah, if you remember the Venza. So the Crown sedan effectively
• 39:44
  replaced the Avalon and this replaced the Venza.
• 39:47
  And so, you know, it's, it's it's got a bit of an identity
• 39:51
  crisis. That said, I think if they
• 39:53
  marketed it as a wagon, get a lot more attention.
• 39:56
  I don't think most people know this car existed.
• 39:57
  It wasn't until we went to the LA Auto Show and we saw a very
• 40:00
  sleek black one that caught our eye.
• 40:03
  So a good car. I think it's probably the right
• 40:06
  car for a lot of a lot of people.
• 40:09
  But it doesn't have an enthusiast bone in its body,
• 40:12
  right? And you know, the three of us,
• 40:14
  we kind of come at this from a different angle than most
• 40:17
  people. But I got to see again, you
• 40:19
  cannot argue with 31 miles to the gallon over a 2000 mile trip
• 40:22
  on, you know, 85, you know, 90 per mile per hour.
• 40:26
  You know highways and this kind of thing.
• 40:28
  It you know, decent JBL stereo, yeah, Apple play all the all the
• 40:33
  you know, the mod cons. It's just, it's, it's it, it's,
• 40:39
  it's, it's, it's perfect at what it is, but it's figuring out
• 40:43
  what it is, if that makes sense. Well, thank you, Ryan for taking
• 40:46
  one for the team so we didn't have to try it.
• 40:49
  You've tried it on our behalf. I wanted to share an anecdote
• 40:53
  because I posted last week your comment on my Instagram about
• 41:01
  the Genesis and one of my followers, Henry, shout out to
• 41:05
  Henry said. We used to have them as company
• 41:07
  cars when I worked for a large scale car dealership and we used
• 41:11
  to call them Korean Bentleys. So the genesis will forever be
• 41:16
  known as the Korean Bentley I. Love it.
• 41:20
  Like and it kind of works. It's kind of what it is.
• 41:23
  It's kind of what it is. And I I kept thinking, you know,
• 41:25
  that that GV 70 had had the big motor had 360 horsepower,
• 41:29
  whatever it was, had the six, but they also make a 4 cylinder
• 41:32
  that still I think makes more power than this Toyota and
• 41:35
  probably would have not been too far off in in in.
• 41:39
  Let it go, Rowan, let it go. You've done it.
• 41:42
  Move on. Let it go.
• 41:45
  Let's get back to the event schedule because there's a lot
• 41:48
  of time to cover. I think our gap year is going
• 41:51
  pretty well so far, right? So, so far we've been.
• 41:54
  We've been to Paris, we've potentially been to Saudi
• 41:56
  Arabia, we've been to Montana, we've been to Florida, we've
• 42:00
  been to Melbourne in Australia, we've been to Long Beach.
• 42:07
  How about the Cali? Yeah, the Cali melee.
• 42:12
  Have you guys heard of this event?
• 42:14
  Oh yeah, the Cal melee. Yep.
• 42:16
  Yeah. Have we done it?
• 42:18
  I have not, but it is on my list.
• 42:20
  It looks incredible. So this is a classic car rally
• 42:25
  in California hosted by Haggerty.
• 42:28
  And are there any prerequisites to bring a car?
• 42:31
  Do you know? I think it's 58 and older.
• 42:35
  If I'm not mistaken. It was Derek Tam Scott and
• 42:38
  Tatsio Otis who had just had done it, and they were sort of
• 42:40
  comparing and contrasting to the Grand Colorado Grand, which is
• 42:43
  probably its closest sort of the analog, but apparently it's much
• 42:48
  more A to A than A to B, for better or worse.
• 42:53
  Can you explain what you mean by that?
• 42:55
  Yeah, so the grand we go, you know, we go from town to town
• 42:58
  for the most part, not always, but for the most part.
• 43:01
  And from the way Derek and, and, and Tatio described, it seemed
• 43:05
  to be much more tighter roads, twisty roads, but maybe more
• 43:12
  from, you know, you start and stop in the same place, right?
• 43:15
  You spend the night in the same place kind of thing.
• 43:17
  But it's supposed to be wonderful.
• 43:18
  I mean, you know, everything Haggerty does is, is is top, you
• 43:21
  know, top notch and all that. Haggerty also sponsors the
• 43:24
  Colorado Grand, but Haggerty runs the calmile, right, So I'd
• 43:28
  love to do it. I mean, I, I adore the Colorado
• 43:31
  grand, you know, won't shut up about it.
• 43:33
  And I think this is probably, you know, the closest sort of
• 43:36
  thing and they with with different terrain and geography
• 43:38
  and all that. So I I would absolutely love to
• 43:40
  do the vent right if you're. Lindsay, what would you want to
• 43:43
  do it in? Oh I would do it in a 289 Cobra.
• 43:49
  There you go. There we go.
• 43:51
  Default. That's pretty standard.
• 43:52
  Yeah, but. It's a good a good car, right
• 43:55
  They're. Going to be shocked with that
• 43:56
  answer. I, I think that car would be
• 43:58
  really suited to the roads that they do and you know, I had the
• 44:03
  chance to work on some of the some of the elements of that
• 44:08
  event when I was working with the events team for Haggerty.
• 44:12
  So I know kind of the thought and care that goes into it.
• 44:14
  And for those that know Dave Horde, he works with them and
• 44:19
  puts together the actual route. And like Dave is a perfectionist
• 44:24
  and he loves driving and he's a true enthusiast.
• 44:26
  So I know, you know, whatever he puts together, they're
• 44:30
  spectacular drives. And then the level of, you know,
• 44:34
  accommodation on the food and all of that.
• 44:36
  Like I feel like every year after the event, everybody says
• 44:40
  like they've they've somehow surpassed what they've done in
• 44:44
  the past years, which we didn't think was possible because it's
• 44:46
  such a lovely event. So it just, it just looks
• 44:49
  magical. And the plan like, yeah, it's
• 44:52
  definitely on my list of goals to do that one day.
• 44:55
  Or automotive bucket list, I guess you could say.
• 44:59
  Nice. We've got another one to do, so
• 45:01
  it's good to. We've got the balance now of
• 45:02
  East Coast and West Coast in May 1 of the Triple Crown, the Indy
• 45:09
  500. And Ryan, I think you grew up in
• 45:11
  Indy, didn't you? I did never actually went to the
• 45:14
  race, but every year we'd go to the time trials that.
• 45:17
  Kind of thing from Game of Thrones, which is going shame,
• 45:20
  shame. Well, you have to remember the
• 45:25
  Indy 500 of the 80s, right? When I was a kid, I think was a
• 45:28
  very the, the crowds they drew, I think were probably, you know,
• 45:32
  they still draw giant crowds, but I think they were, the
• 45:34
  crowds are twice as big as they are now, right?
• 45:36
  They had this snake pit. It was a whole thing, a parade
• 45:39
  downtown. You know, I remember seeing
• 45:42
  David Hasselhoff, who was the the parade.
• 45:45
  Was he? The Grand Marshall one.
• 45:47
  The Grand Marshall, that's what. That's a job, you know, so it
• 45:51
  was a big, big deal, probably a bigger deal then even than it is
• 45:53
  now. That said, I've never been to
• 45:54
  the actual race, but we go every year for time trials and that
• 45:57
  kind of thing and we were on a budget right at uh, family of
• 46:01
  four kind of thing and and I, I just, I thought it was great.
• 46:04
  I mean it's, that's one of those, you know, top five
• 46:08
  automotive, you know, Motorsports events, right.
• 46:10
  I mean, I think by anyone's, you know, reasoning and you know,
• 46:14
  it's Jim neighbors used to, you know, Gomer Pyle used to sing
• 46:18
  for like 50-60 years. He's saying that the national
• 46:20
  anthem or whatever it was or no, it was the IT was back home
• 46:24
  again in Indiana is what it was. He'd sing that it was it was an
• 46:26
  event, right? I mean, it was you.
• 46:28
  Know how does that go, Ryan? Like I also don't know.
• 46:33
  The rule? That one.
• 46:34
  Maybe I'll, maybe I'll add it. Oh, I know the words.
• 46:40
  Everything is ever living hard out too.
• 46:43
  Lindsay, have you been to this one and have you sung the
• 46:45
  Indiana song? No, and not yet.
• 46:51
  Don't worry Dean, the Counting Crows will sing it on some.
• 46:54
  You know, let's do holiday carry.
• 46:57
  On So that's the Indy 500 and then if you want to bring some
• 47:02
  sophistication to the month, right Villageste, which is
• 47:07
  definitely a bucket list item, but have you guys done this one?
• 47:11
  No, I just keep living vicariously through my friends
• 47:13
  like Laura and Johnny and Bassam and just gobbling up their
• 47:17
  pictures when they go because it just looks like another, you
• 47:21
  know, magical bucket list event. I mean, the setting itself is
• 47:25
  just absolutely stunning. And then the cars that it
• 47:29
  attracts, and again, that's another one that people travel
• 47:32
  from all over the world to be there for.
• 47:35
  I think that's the one that Spike always jokes about when he
• 47:38
  went and somebody said, what are you doing here?
• 47:40
  So, right, that tells you the level of I think we have we, we
• 47:48
  may have a little more work to do with.
• 47:50
  What I'm hearing, I got to say Harry met, recognized.
• 47:54
  Yeah, right. What have we got?
• 47:56
  This is on the side of Lake Garda right I believe.
• 48:00
  I don't know, that's just proof I shouldn't be there.
• 48:04
  Our research department. I would have said Lake Helmo,
• 48:07
  but I may be wrong. Yeah, I would have.
• 48:09
  I would have said too. But it's Harry Metcalf who I
• 48:12
  think is like the coolest dude in Italy.
• 48:14
  He goes every year, he he talks it up, he makes it look really
• 48:18
  good. Of course he drives his like
• 48:19
  Countach down or whatever from the UK wouldn't quite be the
• 48:22
  same experience rolling up in a, you know, a seiat or something.
• 48:26
  But you know, I want to. Right, Lake Como.
• 48:30
  Lake Como. Every now and then we know what
• 48:33
  we're talking about. There we go.
• 48:36
  Ari Norton does a great video every year on the DACA so you
• 48:39
  know, not that we forever promoting other people's YouTube
• 48:42
  channels, but yeah check it out. It's my favorite story about
• 48:47
  Villideste is when they landed the Myers Manx plane.
• 48:53
  Yeah, how cool is that? That's.
• 48:57
  Pretty much the definition of cool that a you own, among other
• 49:01
  things, the Myers Manx company that B you have your own airline
• 49:05
  called Manx Air. I think it is a Manx Airways,
• 49:08
  right? And that that that plane is, is
• 49:13
  a plane that can land on Lake Como.
• 49:15
  And it's just, I mean, you guys saw the video a couple three
• 49:20
  years ago, Jay Leno. There's a a glass sort of
• 49:22
  secondary cockpit in the nose of the plane.
• 49:24
  You know, that you can open as you land and then I guess I
• 49:27
  don't know, you know, do a dive into the lake or something right
• 49:31
  when you land. But come on, I mean, that's kind
• 49:33
  of that's that's kind of quintessential cool, right?
• 49:36
  There, let's go on to June. June.
• 49:41
  June. Yeah, it's been an amazing year
• 49:44
  so far. It's a big year.
• 49:46
  June has one of our favorite events of the year, and you only
• 49:50
  do it right if you do it with a Deisty and it's a Pike.
• 49:53
  'S peak, that's true. That's the one.
• 49:56
  That's the one, yeah. Yeah, they are the royal family
• 49:59
  on this. No, wait, Dan, you came here.
• 50:00
  We, yeah, that's, yeah, yeah, that's right.
• 50:02
  We did that one. Together, Pike's Peak is the
• 50:04
  hill climb event in Colorado. It goes up to just over 14,000
• 50:08
  feet. It's an all day event.
• 50:11
  You have a couple of options. You either go and you position
• 50:15
  yourself at the bottom of the start finish and you get to see
• 50:19
  all the cars as they start and leave the race, or you position
• 50:23
  yourself halfway at the mountain.
• 50:25
  You get better views but you're stuck there all day and we went
• 50:30
  and lessons were learnt. The first lesson was you don't
• 50:33
  need to be up at 3:00 AM in order to get on the mountain.
• 50:39
  But I think we're first in line. We were first in line.
• 50:42
  We were the first to fall asleep in the car on the mountain, but
• 50:46
  we thought we were playing the system, whatever.
• 50:49
  Because we had press passes, we were able to get on the mountain
• 50:52
  early, but actually that didn't give us a lot of value to do.
• 50:59
  I have a soft spot for Pikes Peak.
• 51:01
  It's run by wonderful people. It's a really neat event with
• 51:05
  crazy history. And I mean, there's really just
• 51:08
  nothing else like it. And I think driving it would be
• 51:12
  an experience of a lifetime. Shout out, John, Johnny
• 51:14
  Lieberman. I mean, that takes, you know, it
• 51:17
  takes balls. You know, that said, it's not
• 51:20
  the easiest thing to spectate, right?
• 51:23
  And, you know, so I don't feel compelled to go every year
• 51:26
  because of that. But that's one of those, you
• 51:29
  know, you got to go once, check it off, you know, your list.
• 51:33
  But it's, it's, it's, it's a, it's, it's a commitment to your
• 51:38
  point, Dan, because you spend the whole day there.
• 51:40
  There's not a lot in the way of facilities and that kind of
• 51:43
  thing. You don't know what the weather
• 51:44
  is going to do sometimes. You know, I think like this last
• 51:47
  year, they, they, you know, they think they only did the first
• 51:49
  stage of what, 3 or 4 stages or whatever it is, you know, so
• 51:53
  there's so many unknowns and like variables and, and all
• 51:56
  that. And so it's, I think it's really
• 51:58
  hard to get like the perfect Pikes Peak experience.
• 52:02
  That said, it's one of those things I think I take for
• 52:03
  granted because it's in my backyard, you know, and people
• 52:07
  travel from all over the world to go.
• 52:09
  But yeah, it's, it's, it's one of those legendary Motorsports
• 52:14
  events that you got to see once, right?
• 52:16
  Yeah. And Lindsay, you nearly came
• 52:20
  with this one year. That's right.
• 52:22
  But I think that was probably common sense, knowing that we
• 52:24
  were going to do it wrong, but then we did it right just to, to
• 52:28
  balance it out. We, we started off a bit rough,
• 52:31
  but then we got there. But would you go?
• 52:34
  Oh absolutely, especially now that you guys have learned all
• 52:37
  the lessons. Yeah, the hard way.
• 52:40
  Right, I figured I'd you guys fine tune.
• 52:44
  It Ford Edge with. A Ford Edge, right?
• 52:47
  Ford Edge, Yeah. Does that sound like a
• 52:50
  comfortable place? To sleep.
• 52:52
  I was in the trunk and wasn't I that the trunk door?
• 52:57
  Open. The wind was coming in.
• 52:59
  I was there, comfortable, cozy, sleeping.
• 53:03
  Yeah. That.
• 53:05
  Was that's the commercial that the Ford Edge has been missing?
• 53:08
  Exactly. Yes, if you're listening
• 53:11
  forward. The best memories, right?
• 53:14
  And there's their table. Yeah.
• 53:16
  Yeah, exactly. We won't talk about the great
• 53:19
  camera incident of that here. But you did get more we.
• 53:23
  Were still early. We were still early.
• 53:26
  Let's move on. That tells you how much too
• 53:29
  early you were, yeah. So Lamont.
• 53:34
  Lamont is a pilgrimage. It is.
• 53:38
  We've talked about the Indy 500 being one of the Triple Crown.
• 53:41
  Lamont is another one of the three Triple Crown events.
• 53:44
  I think, Lindsay, you were the most recent to be there from all
• 53:47
  of us. You were eating ice cream with
• 53:49
  Chris Harris, Jim. Farley, yeah.
• 53:52
  Jim Farley, what was the what was the experience like for you
• 53:55
  last year? I mean, it was again, like one
• 53:59
  of those once in a lifetime, like it was just tremendous
• 54:03
  because it's, you know, and I've said this before, but you,
• 54:07
  there's so much history and energy there even before the
• 54:11
  crowd got there because of the races that have happened and,
• 54:15
  and the, you know, there have been some big tragedies there.
• 54:18
  There have been some amazing triumphs there.
• 54:21
  The, you know, so many of the big names have raced there.
• 54:26
  And I think, you know, there's all these kind of like pivotal
• 54:31
  moments. And I'm blanking on the driver,
• 54:34
  of course, but the driver who they used to do the running
• 54:37
  start and they would have to run to the car and get in.
• 54:39
  And you know, the legend is like, oh, and they wouldn't, the
• 54:41
  safety belts wouldn't be on until the 1st lap was completed.
• 54:45
  And there was a driver who protested and he said, this is
• 54:49
  crazy. Like we're, we're not even being
• 54:51
  able to use the safety equipment that's in there for us.
• 54:53
  So he walked to his car and buckled in and took off and
• 54:57
  ended up placing in the race. And you know, I, my apologies
• 55:01
  that of course I'm blanking. This is too tired from Christmas
• 55:05
  and all of it. But, you know, and obviously the
• 55:08
  Mercedes crash that happened and then, yeah, just.
• 55:12
  Shelby winning there. Right there, Shelby, you know,
• 55:15
  and then going back in 2017 and winning again, you know, 50
• 55:19
  years after the first time. And so there's just there's so
• 55:23
  much history that has happened there.
• 55:25
  And then, you know, because it is a pilgrimage.
• 55:29
  So many of the people like you go, you go to a lot of trouble
• 55:32
  to be there. And people come from all over
• 55:35
  the world. You know, we parked on the
• 55:38
  second day next to a restaurateur who had driven over
• 55:41
  from England I think that morning.
• 55:45
  And you know, there's people from the States all over and
• 55:47
  just all over the world. So it's this amazing melting pot
• 55:51
  of a crowd who are all there. You know, again, it's like we
• 55:54
  talked about this cars or the common ground that kind of bring
• 55:57
  us all together. And this is a pretty spectacular
• 56:00
  bringing together. And then the Ferris wheels, like
• 56:03
  you can go up in the Ferris wheel and watch the race.
• 56:05
  So it's just, again, it's such a unique experience because Dan,
• 56:10
  when were you there? I was there.
• 56:13
  I think it was 2006, I think, But it's interesting because it
• 56:17
  was the same year that Corvette won and Bruce Mayer has that
• 56:22
  car. So what was quite cool is I was
• 56:25
  in the stands watching that car win and now Bruce has it so.
• 56:28
  Right. And now it's very tough to.
• 56:31
  You. Yeah.
• 56:31
  I mean, in the pantheon of Motorsports events, that's got
• 56:34
  to be pretty close to the top, right?
• 56:37
  Yeah. I think so, yeah, I think so.
• 56:39
  I mean, it's the Triple Crown, isn't it, right.
• 56:41
  That's what you got to think about.
• 56:43
  And it's. And for me, Monaco doesn't do
• 56:47
  anything for me. Like I think that's a place
• 56:49
  where you you got to be seen. You don't go to see the racing.
• 56:52
  Yeah, that's not on the list. Yeah.
• 56:54
  It's either it's for me, it's either the Indy 500, which I'm
• 56:57
  yet to experience or the long, which I have, Yeah.
• 57:02
  Well, someone else who's yet to experience the Indy 500 so close
• 57:07
  so many times. Yeah, But that would be that
• 57:09
  would be an easy one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 57:11
  Get a Super 8 in Indianapolis. It'd be a cheap, you know, cheap
• 57:15
  party. That'd be fun, I think.
• 57:16
  That's it's like growing up near anything though, you know, like
• 57:19
  I grew up not far from Disneyland and people would say
• 57:21
  like, oh, I bet you went all the time.
• 57:23
  And I'm like, we went a couple times.
• 57:27
  It's, you know, you get jaded to whatever you're growing up next
• 57:30
  to, I think. Yeah.
• 57:31
  That's true. Let me.
• 57:31
  See your doorstep. So the recommendation is that
• 57:34
  you stay in Europe after them on and in July you go to the
• 57:39
  Goodwood Festival of Speed. You guys have or haven't done
• 57:44
  it? I have not done the Festival of
• 57:46
  Speed, but you have correct. Yes, I went two years ago.
• 57:51
  I think the top tips for the Festival of Speed is it's an
• 57:53
  amazing event. It's a hill climb with lots of
• 57:57
  manufacturers there releasing cars.
• 58:00
  It is so incredibly busy. So the first tip is go on the
• 58:04
  first day if you can, which is the quieter day of the weekend.
• 58:08
  Second tip is just get some grandstand tickets or get some
• 58:10
  sort of access. I was super lucky because I had
• 58:14
  a driver's medallion which got me into the driver's lounges and
• 58:18
  stuff. Like the Americans don't seem to
• 58:20
  have a word for black. It's like like cajole.
• 58:24
  Maybe I managed to cajole a driver's pass, but even what was
• 58:30
  that? I think probably the equivalent
• 58:33
  would be you wrangled one or. Wrangled.
• 58:36
  Yeah, but no horses were involved.
• 58:38
  No, but it's. Yeah, you've got to do it, like
• 58:43
  with a grandstand seat, I think. And the other tip is don't just
• 58:48
  stay at the bottom of the hill. There's a rally stage at the top
• 58:52
  of the hill, and that's where a lot of, like, Heroes, idols hang
• 58:56
  out. So when we were up there,
• 58:58
  Andreas Prenigo was up there, Travis Pastrana was up there,
• 59:04
  Mcrae's. So some of the McRae family were
• 59:06
  up there. So it's a, it's a separate rally
• 59:09
  stage and separate event. You don't need a different
• 59:12
  ticket. You just take the, the truck up
• 59:14
  there. They do a, a tractor with like
• 59:17
  the pulls a trailer and you get on that and you go up to the top
• 59:19
  of the hill. So a hayride there we go, get
• 59:24
  good access. Go early on the Thursday if you
• 59:26
  can and allow for extra time because it's going to be
• 59:29
  freaking busy. But it's a great event.
• 59:32
  It's up there for me. I've never been.
• 59:33
  I want to do that, of course. And you know the other good good
• 59:37
  Rd. event? The.
• 59:39
  Yeah, the revival. Revival, Revival.
• 59:42
  Can't you know? That's the one that's up to one
• 59:44
  or two. I don't.
• 59:44
  Have on this list, but we can talk about that in September.
• 59:47
  Yeah, you know, my bucket's getting bigger.
• 59:50
  I. Know.
• 59:51
  Older, you know it's time to check off.
• 59:52
  Some good stuff, good job. You're doing a gap year, isn't
• 59:55
  it really? This is the solution to
• 59:57
  everything, right? Yeah.
• 1:00:00
  So I was thinking while you're in the UK, one thing that I am
• 1:00:04
  desperate to do is something called the North Coast 500.
• 1:00:08
  So in essence what that is, is that is a 500 mile drive around
• 1:00:14
  the outskirts of Scotland. That sounds.
• 1:00:17
  So you know, you can't guarantee good weather in the UK, but I
• 1:00:21
  guess July is as best as any. So take yourself up to Scotland
• 1:00:26
  and do that trip. I believe there's lots of
• 1:00:28
  distilleries on the way, right? I know you've know you've
• 1:00:32
  converted to wine and it's probably not very good for wine
• 1:00:35
  up there, but maybe you can, like when you're on vacation.
• 1:00:38
  It doesn't count, right? Yeah, you can get it.
• 1:00:42
  That's on the list. Yeah, closest I've gotten are
• 1:00:46
  YouTube videos, right? You know, travel, you know
• 1:00:48
  writers, you know Youtubers. But looks awesome.
• 1:00:50
  I'd love to do it sometime. Check it out.
• 1:00:53
  It's called the North Coast 500. Then we move into August and
• 1:00:57
  really there's only one event that you know anyone.
• 1:01:00
  Should be out. In August, right?
• 1:01:03
  It's it's the La Jolla Concourse.
• 1:01:06
  No, it's not. It's Monterey Carwie.
• 1:01:09
  No, there's something wrong. With that, I thought it was San
• 1:01:12
  Bernardino Concourse. Show and shine.
• 1:01:16
  Yes, San Bernardino, Show and shine.
• 1:01:18
  You can't miss that though. I love No money.
• 1:01:21
  Yeah, your local Sonic Burger. It's a new T-shirt.
• 1:01:26
  Isn't it? Yeah.
• 1:01:27
  San Bernardino show and shine. Yeah.
• 1:01:31
  So Carl Week, we've all done it and we've all been there.
• 1:01:35
  I think it's getting a bad Rep lately, but I'm not sure that's
• 1:01:38
  deserved, right? Favorite memories from Carl Week
• 1:01:43
  any year. How much time do you have?
• 1:01:46
  Yeah, not that much, Lindsay, right?
• 1:01:48
  I know it's just the. Mothership, you know.
• 1:01:50
  It is, I would say when we got to commentate the races a couple
• 1:01:54
  years ago, that was pretty incredible.
• 1:01:56
  Like I I don't know that we'll ever top that.
• 1:01:59
  That was. Just so that folks are aware,
• 1:02:01
  Laguna Seca kindly gave us press passes for the weekend and then
• 1:02:06
  they asked us at the sort of 11th hour would we be interested
• 1:02:11
  in commentating on some of the races.
• 1:02:12
  They had a professional commentator but wanted some
• 1:02:16
  support and who are asked to stand in the way of a a great
• 1:02:19
  opportunity. So you guys were live on YouTube
• 1:02:22
  to 40,000 people? Yeah, the good.
• 1:02:25
  One, we got to hang out with Jonathan Green, who is such a
• 1:02:29
  pro and, and just chat with him and I will never forget walking
• 1:02:33
  into the booth, you know, and definitely having like the worst
• 1:02:37
  case of imposter syndrome. And he's just such a pro And he
• 1:02:41
  was like, we're just going to talk.
• 1:02:43
  I'm so glad you guys are here. We're going to have a good time,
• 1:02:46
  no stress. We're just going to have a
• 1:02:47
  conversation. And it was like, this is just so
• 1:02:50
  much fun and he's so cool. Yeah, I so that was definitely,
• 1:02:56
  you know, peak memory. Well, especially because the
• 1:02:59
  race that I did, I got to commentate it with Jonathan and
• 1:03:02
  my dad. And my dad looked at me and he
• 1:03:04
  said, you know, if you had told me the first time that we came
• 1:03:06
  to the races, which really it wasn't car week even at that
• 1:03:10
  point. It was in 1997.
• 1:03:12
  And it was really just the vintage races and Pebble and
• 1:03:17
  quail. And it's obviously developed
• 1:03:19
  into this, you know, week to 10 day long event at this point.
• 1:03:22
  But he said, yeah, if you had told me when we first came up
• 1:03:25
  here that at one point we would be in the broadcast booth, I
• 1:03:28
  would have said you were nuts. And here we are.
• 1:03:31
  Yeah, that it was special. It really was.
• 1:03:34
  I, I, I've still my, my mind's blown that that actually
• 1:03:38
  happened. And it was thanks to you, right?
• 1:03:41
  And Alicia Busa, who was who was there at the time at your point,
• 1:03:45
  I wasn't gonna say no, right? No.
• 1:03:47
  And, you know, you know, like of the three of us, I probably know
• 1:03:52
  the least about motorsport, right?
• 1:03:53
  You know, it's just how it is. I'm a Canyon guy, right?
• 1:03:57
  You know, I mean, I just, I kind of come at it from a different
• 1:03:59
  angle and. Racing.
• 1:04:01
  Has never been a huge part of of, yeah, you know, and that's
• 1:04:05
  fine, but but then you're at Laguna Seca and you're going to
• 1:04:08
  commentate a race. And then I found out it was F1
• 1:04:12
  cars of the Andretti era or something, which I of all the
• 1:04:15
  cars, I probably knew the least, right?
• 1:04:18
  Talk about a niche slice of motorsport, yeah?
• 1:04:21
  Yeah, I just don't want to embarrass myself, right.
• 1:04:24
  I just didn't want to embarrass myself and I don't think I did.
• 1:04:26
  I tried to get a couple jokes and I remember that.
• 1:04:28
  And, you know, you're taking a risk because you don't know if
• 1:04:30
  they're going to hit or fall flat or, or whatever.
• 1:04:32
  But it was such that was that's in my, you know, that's one of
• 1:04:37
  those experiences I'll never forget.
• 1:04:38
  It was truly special. I'll never do it again.
• 1:04:40
  I'll never want to do it again, but I'm so glad that I did it.
• 1:04:44
  It was really, really cool. Have you, have you so have you
• 1:04:46
  ever like looked up the the footage to like on YouTube or
• 1:04:50
  whatever to to? Find Oh, I've.
• 1:04:51
  Listened to it race. Have you OK?
• 1:04:53
  Oh. Yeah, I'm in my whole family.
• 1:04:59
  What do you what insomnia? God, in the race I I commentated
• 1:05:05
  had Jensen had some real notable people in it too, right?
• 1:05:11
  So, you know, it was, I don't remember anymore McLaren's.
• 1:05:16
  Zac Brown. See Zac Brown and and I think
• 1:05:20
  our Ford friend was there as what wasn't he driving?
• 1:05:22
  Following maybe Jensen was that, Yeah.
• 1:05:25
  It was just, it was, yeah, I don't even remember.
• 1:05:28
  It was a blur, but it was amazing.
• 1:05:30
  And it was a good blur. Though we talk, yeah, we talk
• 1:05:32
  about the things, you know, that we've gotten to do because of
• 1:05:34
  this show and, you know, previous things that we've done.
• 1:05:37
  And it's hard to believe the things we've weaseled our
• 1:05:39
  weight, right? That's one of them.
• 1:05:42
  Yeah, anyway. Yeah, Car week is.
• 1:05:44
  Only if only Meekum had known that week.
• 1:05:50
  But kind of a big dinner. Laguna Saika I.
• 1:05:53
  Know, I know. Apparently my commentating.
• 1:05:57
  Batmobiles. Isn't enough.
• 1:06:01
  That was just one highlight I mean, we could go do a whole
• 1:06:03
  show on car week, couldn't we? But, you know, both of you,
• 1:06:08
  indeed, both of you, if you're going out of your comfort zones
• 1:06:10
  and, you know, stepping up and being on the mic.
• 1:06:13
  So it's fun. Yeah.
• 1:06:14
  And take a listen to the shows that we've done around Carl Week
• 1:06:17
  because there's a lot more experiences.
• 1:06:18
  But we probably need to move on, right?
• 1:06:21
  September. Nothing happens in September,
• 1:06:23
  does it? That's the Quiet 1.
• 1:06:26
  So I can see Ryan getting redder and redder.
• 1:06:30
  Well, and so you could, you could choose to stay in the
• 1:06:34
  States or you could go to Europe because you could create at
• 1:06:39
  least a couple weeks in England because they have the Hampton
• 1:06:43
  Court Concord, which may not be the official name of it, but
• 1:06:48
  something happens in Hampton Court.
• 1:06:49
  I believe it's a Concord. And that's the week before the
• 1:06:52
  Goodwood revival. And I feel like then there's
• 1:06:56
  something in Paris after that maybe, or there are multiple
• 1:07:00
  events that you could string together were you so inclined
• 1:07:03
  and have quite a European vacation.
• 1:07:06
  Sure, yeah. Yeah, or you could go to
• 1:07:08
  Colorado and do. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:07:10
  But you guys, we talk about this is like a, a, a, you know, a
• 1:07:15
  fantastical like Grant, you know, a gap year.
• 1:07:18
  But there is a whole circuit of people who does who, who do.
• 1:07:21
  There's a whole circuit of people who do every one of these
• 1:07:23
  events pretty much every year, right?
• 1:07:25
  That is their life. They bounce around from auction
• 1:07:27
  to event to race to, you know, to there's a there is a strata
• 1:07:32
  of people who do just these things and, you know, and hey,
• 1:07:36
  more power to them. But but the Colorado.
• 1:07:38
  Grand is. That's that's they have people
• 1:07:42
  like us that, you know, counterbalance those people,
• 1:07:44
  right. But but.
• 1:07:46
  Also, if you look at it right, a lot of us have done a lot of
• 1:07:48
  things on this list already. So we, we're still, we're doing
• 1:07:51
  pretty good I think. I would say.
• 1:07:54
  For me, the Colorado Grand is is a highlight that is tops them
• 1:07:57
  all. That is just It's become a very
• 1:07:59
  special event for me. I made so many dear friends.
• 1:08:02
  It's just something I will do until the day I die.
• 1:08:05
  It is if they'll if they'll let me, right?
• 1:08:07
  It's. And they're, you know, could you
• 1:08:09
  have a better endorsement of an event?
• 1:08:13
  I think not. I think not talk about bucket
• 1:08:18
  list. Right.
• 1:08:19
  Yeah, literally, Yeah, No, I and yeah, it's, I know I have really
• 1:08:26
  enjoyed hearing you talk about the event and it's clearly very
• 1:08:30
  special and the group of people that do it.
• 1:08:32
  And I love that the event gives back to the communities that you
• 1:08:36
  visit. So it's not just, you know, just
• 1:08:40
  a car event. I think it really makes a
• 1:08:42
  meaningful difference for a lot of the little towns in Colorado
• 1:08:45
  and around. And it just, you know, and we've
• 1:08:48
  gotten to know Tom, who runs it at Car Week, and he's just such
• 1:08:53
  a nice guy. And yeah, like I would love to
• 1:08:56
  participate in some way in the near future.
• 1:08:59
  That will be, yes. I think that's what we need to
• 1:09:01
  make happen. We'll add it to the list of
• 1:09:04
  goals that's. Right.
• 1:09:06
  Nice. No slowing down in October.
• 1:09:10
  Nope. Go to Atlanta and go to Petit
• 1:09:13
  Lamont. Have either of you done this
• 1:09:16
  event? Not yet, not.
• 1:09:19
  No, it's, it's kind of like another endurance race, isn't
• 1:09:21
  it? But Rd.
• 1:09:24
  Atlanta is supposed to be an amazing track.
• 1:09:27
  It's supposed to be a great place for, you know, for
• 1:09:29
  watching. So I think it's on the bucket
• 1:09:33
  list for sure. And then we go to November,
• 1:09:38
  there's there's a Grand Prix in Vegas.
• 1:09:41
  And if anyone knows how to put a Grand Prix on and make it a
• 1:09:43
  show, it's Vegas. It'll obviously be in its fourth
• 1:09:46
  year next year and you know, the first year it had a few
• 1:09:52
  challenges. First year I had a few
• 1:09:55
  challenges which will be a a Patreon show at some point in
• 1:09:59
  the future when I can talk about me being the reason that there
• 1:10:03
  is a cement line on the start finish straight in the very
• 1:10:05
  first race of I think I can talk about.
• 1:10:09
  It. I think it could do.
• 1:10:13
  This was a cement spike and it was exactly proportioned to the
• 1:10:17
  vehicle I was driving. But we will talk about that in a
• 1:10:20
  future show And but it's a great event, it's a great show.
• 1:10:26
  It's always a great weekend. They are learning as they're
• 1:10:29
  putting it on. So the first year it was on
• 1:10:32
  very, very late. I think they were trying to get
• 1:10:34
  European audiences, but now they've kind of dulled that
• 1:10:36
  back. It's a Saturday night race.
• 1:10:39
  Any interest? I know that the Deistys went
• 1:10:41
  this year and had a great time. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:10:43
  Yeah. Oh, that's awesome.
• 1:10:44
  I would love to go. I'm not a.
• 1:10:45
  Vegas guy, but I'd love to go, yeah.
• 1:10:48
  Yeah, I hate Vegas with a passion.
• 1:10:50
  Like I just like, it's just just everything that I don't like in
• 1:10:56
  one. Yeah.
• 1:10:57
  Yeah, I've come with you. Dan Yeah.
• 1:10:59
  And I can bear it for 48 hours. But I, you know, I went out at
• 1:11:04
  that point. But to go go for the Grand Prix,
• 1:11:09
  the top tip here is go hang out at the win because that's where
• 1:11:13
  all the team principals and all the all the drivers stay.
• 1:11:18
  So go do some people watching in the win.
• 1:11:20
  If you guys get the chance, shout out to Larry Chen.
• 1:11:23
  Larry got involved with a Mercedes video this year and
• 1:11:27
  it's a Mercedes video featuring George Russell as a valet.
• 1:11:33
  And who's that good looking Formula One film guy, Brad Pitt.
• 1:11:40
  So Larry did the photography for this video.
• 1:11:43
  He didn't do the videography, but he did do the the
• 1:11:45
  photography. And he said it was very similar
• 1:11:48
  to the old days of hooligan where you would shoot from 7:00
• 1:11:51
  at night till 7:00 in the morning.
• 1:11:54
  But he's just posted a YouTube video on this and it looks
• 1:11:57
  really good. It looks, you know, kudos to
• 1:11:59
  him. He's got some great pictures of
• 1:12:01
  both George Russell, a car being and this is a prototype car
• 1:12:05
  being drifted, and of course, Mr. Pitts, which I would imagine
• 1:12:08
  that's the easiest part of his job because it's probably very
• 1:12:10
  difficult to get a bad picture of Brad Pitt.
• 1:12:13
  I would guess it's a bit like trying to shoot rhyme.
• 1:12:16
  It's very difficult to get it wrong.
• 1:12:20
  You hardly have to take any pictures.
• 1:12:23
  Oh, what's that? A PayPal $100 is just coming in
• 1:12:26
  from Brian now. Hey, you know I'm a Venmo guy.
• 1:12:33
  That's that's the makers Grand Prix.
• 1:12:34
  Maybe we should do that this year, this coming year, yeah.
• 1:12:37
  That would be amazing. That or the Volkswagen show
• 1:12:40
  that. Actually, I was going to, I know
• 1:12:41
  I was going to say, I realized there's one more event in
• 1:12:44
  October and it's a mass, what has become a massive Volkswagen
• 1:12:48
  show called 1 Crazy Weekend. And what reminded me was when we
• 1:12:52
  were there at the beginning of October, they were already
• 1:12:54
  starting to set up for the Grand Prix, even though it was several
• 1:12:58
  weeks out at that point. Because it is a massive
• 1:13:00
  undertaking. So go for one crazy weekend stay
• 1:13:03
  for the Grand Prix. But that's probably way too much
• 1:13:06
  Vegas for a lot of people. Definitely.
• 1:13:09
  But then what I want to do? In go on.
• 1:13:12
  I was going to say, I hear there's one place that you can
• 1:13:15
  watch the race unencumbered and for free, and that's by taking
• 1:13:19
  that escalator up and down and up and down and up.
• 1:13:21
  Have you seen this? So there's one place.
• 1:13:25
  Yeah, there's usually a fence around there, like moving you
• 1:13:28
  along. We're in public.
• 1:13:29
  I don't know. Yeah.
• 1:13:30
  It's just I like it. Got a disability I don't.
• 1:13:34
  Know yeah, I nominate Ryan to attend their strategy and report
• 1:13:38
  back. Right, right.
• 1:13:41
  Anyway, there is also. I need to give a call out to the
• 1:13:45
  win concourse. So this is for four or five
• 1:13:49
  years old, but mark my words, that is becoming one of the
• 1:13:52
  biggest events of the year. So just just bear that in mind.
• 1:13:57
  Our friend of the show, Justin Bell, is the the MC for the
• 1:14:00
  event. And it's becoming bigger than
• 1:14:04
  anyone I think realizes so well, I mean, this year they yeah,
• 1:14:08
  it's they did a lot of good stuff, unveiled new cars.
• 1:14:12
  So yeah, watch this space. Yeah, it's an elegant event.
• 1:14:16
  And I know, I think it's a, it's a sleeper.
• 1:14:19
  It's like a if you know, you know, and it's a lovely event if
• 1:14:23
  you've been. But yeah, I think it's
• 1:14:24
  definitely growing and I hope to make it there sooner rather than
• 1:14:28
  later. Yeah, and in January, if you
• 1:14:31
  couldn't get to Paris, Retro Mobile will be coming to New
• 1:14:35
  York in November. So it's the first time they're
• 1:14:38
  doing the event in New York. It could be a great, a great
• 1:14:42
  experience. You know, that sort of holiday
• 1:14:43
  vibe. Plus some.
• 1:14:45
  Beautiful cars. Yeah, that'll be the first retro
• 1:14:49
  mobile in the States. So, and they, when I was there
• 1:14:53
  in Paris in February, I got to talk to Jacques and Ramon and
• 1:14:59
  they shared a lot about how they chose New York.
• 1:15:03
  And they really looked at a lot of different locations.
• 1:15:06
  But they wanted to make it accessible, as accessible as
• 1:15:09
  possible for people from the West Coast and also Europe to,
• 1:15:13
  you know, encourage as many people as possible to attend.
• 1:15:17
  And they're really excited about it.
• 1:15:18
  And hopefully they will join us and tell us more about it.
• 1:15:22
  Yeah, look forward to that. And for December, I just put go
• 1:15:27
  for a drive. Yeah, I think it's a growing way
• 1:15:30
  to end your gap here, isn't it? Just be compressed, get in the
• 1:15:33
  car and go for a drive. Yeah.
• 1:15:35
  And so are we, are you going to create like take a trip to go
• 1:15:40
  drive somewhere or are we thinking at that point we are
• 1:15:43
  tired, we want to be home, so we're taking drives from where
• 1:15:46
  we live. Yeah, I think it's used your
• 1:15:49
  home as your base. Yeah.
• 1:15:51
  And just going for a drive. Yeah, ordinarily December would
• 1:15:56
  not be a good driving month here in Denver, but this month it
• 1:15:58
  actually was freakishly warm and snowless, so wow.
• 1:16:03
  I'm so glad we were, I guess. Yeah.
• 1:16:05
  Yeah. If you guys could pick one event
• 1:16:09
  from the list next year, which one would it be?
• 1:16:13
  I think Ryan, we know your answer already.
• 1:16:15
  So you're not allowed that one. Yeah.
• 1:16:18
  Yeah, that that would be mine if I had to pick another one.
• 1:16:20
  I, you know, I, I really would like to go.
• 1:16:24
  That's got to be one of the Goodwood events.
• 1:16:25
  It's got to be right. I think maybe the revival.
• 1:16:30
  Well, and I think we could make the question even more difficult
• 1:16:33
  by saying it has to be something that you haven't attended
• 1:16:35
  already because so many of these things are so incredible that,
• 1:16:41
  you know, it's, I mean, it's an impossible question really.
• 1:16:45
  Yeah, yeah. I would have to say.
• 1:16:47
  Juan Lindsay. I know, what if I pick one and a
• 1:16:51
  bonus? So the fat ice race because I
• 1:16:54
  really do want to experience that and that's not something
• 1:16:56
  I've done before. Oh I need 2 bonuses.
• 1:17:00
  Cow Melee and retro mobile New York.
• 1:17:04
  There we go. It's a three-way tie.
• 1:17:07
  It's nice, kind of amazing the three events, right?
• 1:17:10
  Yeah, no, it's kind of amazing. Between the three of us, we've
• 1:17:13
  done almost all of them. But what about you, Dan?
• 1:17:14
  Yeah. I really have a hankering for
• 1:17:17
  the North Case 500. I really have a hankering for
• 1:17:20
  going to get and hire a car and just drive around Scotland.
• 1:17:24
  That'd be great, yeah. I think that would be amazing.
• 1:17:28
  Oh also villa dust. There's just too many good
• 1:17:30
  events. I know, I know, I know.
• 1:17:33
  Which is an amazing problem to have right?
• 1:17:36
  Yeah, yeah, but a good. San Bernardino it is.
• 1:17:40
  San Bernardino show and shine. Meet you guys coming?
• 1:17:47
  Yeah, we have probably missed lots of great, amazing events.
• 1:17:52
  So an ask for our audience, give us a shout out.
• 1:17:55
  Let us know. Put it in the comments for the
• 1:17:56
  show, put it on the Instagram. I'm sure we've missed stuff that
• 1:18:00
  is really cool, potentially stuff that's underground that
• 1:18:03
  people don't know about yet. But let us know what we should
• 1:18:06
  be doing and we would love to hear from you guys.
• 1:18:09
  Help us fill out our year so that our gap year we are never
• 1:18:12
  at home. We're only doing giving you.
• 1:18:14
  Five options that she can add to the list when you ask her to
• 1:18:17
  pick one, right? I think it's.
• 1:18:22
  Two hours yet, OK. Yeah, it's a marathon show.
• 1:18:26
  It's like having, like having Brian Scotto on your show, isn't
• 1:18:29
  it? There's just.
• 1:18:32
  So much. Good stuff anyway.
• 1:18:34
  Yeah, well, I think by the time this airs, we'll be in the new
• 1:18:38
  year. So we'll wish everyone a happy
• 1:18:42
  and prosperous New Year. Remember that you should always
• 1:18:47
  be. Driving.
• 1:18:49
  Driving and until next time, it's that car show.