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- 1:03SPEAKER_01: It will be its first time in the case, but definitely not its last.
- 1:07SPEAKER_01: Ladies and gentlemen, this is Caught on the Mic.
- 1:16SPEAKER_01: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another exciting episode of Caught on the Mic.
- 1:22SPEAKER_01: It is Dynasty Combat Sports Week on the podcast ahead of Spring Brawl 2025 that takes place May 3rd, 2025, at the Pinnacle Bank Arena in Lincoln, Nebraska.
- 1:36SPEAKER_01: My next guest is No Stranger.
- 1:40SPEAKER_01: If you are a Husker fan whatsoever, he wrestled for the University of Nebraska.
- 1:46SPEAKER_01: And uh man, I'm so glad to have him on.
- 1:49SPEAKER_01: Bubba Wilson, how the hell are you, man?
- 1:51SPEAKER_00: I'm doing great.
- 1:52SPEAKER_00: Thanks for having me on the pod.
- 1:54SPEAKER_00: I'm excited to talk MMA and you know, talk some crap and get into the fight.
- 1:59SPEAKER_01: Yes! Yes, so this is your gonna be your debut MMA fight, right?
- 2:04SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 2:08SPEAKER_00: Hopefully the the beginning of the highlight highlight tape that I that I put on in the inside the cage.
- 2:14SPEAKER_01: So how you know, obviously being a wrestler, you know, there's a natural acclamation for ground game, but have you always been a fan of mixed martial arts?
- 2:24SPEAKER_00: So actually uh so in high school I was I was uh my house burned down and I was homeless for a little while.
- 2:30SPEAKER_00: Oh wow and so I lived in this hotel and I had nowhere else to go really, but uh and we had a a gym or we had some wrestling mats and a gym, a basement, some terrible, you know, shitty place.
- 2:44SPEAKER_00: And uh they had some they had some fighters in there, and so I would go in there and help them out a little bit with the wrestling.
- 2:51SPEAKER_00: Whenever I started getting good, like my junior year of high school, so I was about 17, 18, and uh they kind of introduced me into the sport, like we would roll around, did you did do some jutsu, and uh yeah, and I could that kind of got me into it, and then we did a little bit of striking, and so that's kind of where where it started for me.
- 3:09SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
- 3:10SPEAKER_01: So you're training at a Premier Combat Center in Omaha, but you guys are doing a little training here in Lincoln as well, so I've heard.
- 3:18SPEAKER_01: Um, so what's that experience been like, especially after having a collegiate wrestling career?
- 3:26SPEAKER_00: Um, it's great.
- 3:28SPEAKER_00: You know, going through college athletics, you know, I kind of know how to structure my own stuff and what works best for me.
- 3:35SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, having some of the best coaches in the entire world with, you know, Trevello, Snyder, Manning, all those guys, uh, and having great strength coaches like John Pfeiffer.
- 3:45SPEAKER_00: Um, I kind of know how to structure all my own stuff and you know, kind of bounce around and work out hard whenever I need to and take rest days whenever I need to.
- 3:54SPEAKER_00: So it's been great.
- 3:55SPEAKER_00: It gave me a great plan and great structure, and just yeah, I can kind of do it all on my or not all on my own, because I got a lot of guys helping me out, but um yeah, it kind of gave me a good, a good structured plan.
- 4:09SPEAKER_01: You know, uh they say that wrestling, MMA, any type of martial art or any type of combat sport is a singular sport until you get into the thick of it, and it really is a team sport.
- 4:24SPEAKER_01: Really, if you get into the brass tacks of it.
- 4:27SPEAKER_01: So to have aligned yourself with somebody like Premier Combat Center, that's gotta be pretty exciting, isn't it?
- 4:36SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there's a bunch of you know good fighters that came out of Premier and a bunch of good guys that still train there.
- 4:43SPEAKER_00: Um, and you like you said, it is a team aspect.
- 4:46SPEAKER_00: I go in there, I spar with a bunch of different guys, you know, they give me tips and you know I try to help them out with their wrestling, and we we really try to feed off each other, build each other up, and get make sure that we're all ready to whoop some ass on May 3rd.
- 4:59SPEAKER_01: I love that, man.
- 5:01SPEAKER_01: So is there anything that you notice that's a little bit different with the sense of camaraderie uh, you know, as opposed to being a part of a wrestling team and being an MM part of an MMA team?
- 5:14SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah, I'm I guess I would say the the difference is um, you know, we're not gonna be all like sitting there cage side for each other's fights.
- 5:23SPEAKER_00: Everyone's gonna be kind of you know getting ready to do their own thing.
- 5:26SPEAKER_00: So that's a little bit different than like a duel, you know.
- 5:29SPEAKER_00: So it might be kind of more like tournament style, you know.
- 5:31SPEAKER_00: At tournaments we're all focused on ourselves, you know, we kinda watch here and there and uh cheer each other on as they come back, you know, come back off the mat and stuff.
- 5:41SPEAKER_00: Um but I yeah, I think it is a little bit different, it's less team based.
- 5:46SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, probably on competition day, but you know, leading up to the fight and fight week and stuff, you know, we all kind of know what each other needs, so we're not gonna be trying to knock each other out the day before, you know, the fight and stuff.
- 5:58SPEAKER_00: But uh yeah, I think it's a great atmosphere and and I like having great teammates over at Premier and then it's been fun.
- 6:06SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's awesome, man.
- 6:07SPEAKER_01: So you're originally from Manhattan, Kansas, right?
- 6:10SPEAKER_01: Yes, sir.
- 6:11SPEAKER_01: So let's kind of get into your origin story a little bit.
- 6:14SPEAKER_01: So, how did you get into wrestling at the high school level and you know, build this interest leading up to where we're gonna be on May 3rd?
- 6:25SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so uh I started wrestling whenever I was four years old.
- 6:28SPEAKER_00: I brought home a flyer from kindergarten.
- 6:30SPEAKER_00: Um that's kind of how I got started.
- 6:32SPEAKER_00: I was a savage, I was kind of a savage growing up, traveled all across the country, um, beating up a bunch of different little kids from all over the Midwest and stuff, and then uh going into high school.
- 6:45SPEAKER_00: Um Manhattan, you know, was a good program to go to, so I was like, Yeah, I gotta be at Manhattan.
- 6:51SPEAKER_00: Um and got my butt kicked a little bit my first year, and then I actually almost quit wrestling.
- 6:58SPEAKER_00: I was like, man, I don't know if this is for me.
- 7:01SPEAKER_00: I was kind of a late bloomer, I wasn't as strong, but I knew you know technically I was way better and a lot smarter than uh everyone else.
- 7:10SPEAKER_00: I just the strength portion had to had to catch up to me and uh got set got second at state my sophomore year and then got first my junior year and my senior year.
- 7:22SPEAKER_00: Um and yeah, so on Christmas my house burnt down.
- 7:27SPEAKER_00: Um and so I was homeless for a while.
- 7:29SPEAKER_00: I was staying in a in a hotel, and uh so I spent a lot of time in on the wrestling mats at a gym.
- 7:36SPEAKER_00: And there's a guy uh over there in the gym, his name was uh Justin Overton.
- 7:41SPEAKER_00: He fought in Vellator a little bit.
- 7:43SPEAKER_00: Um and he he kind of would help me out with my striking, I would help him out with his wrestling a little bit, and then we would come in before school and and scrap it out a little bit, lift weights, and you know, get in the cage, and on Saturdays, you know, we would go, we would do some rounds and stuff, and he was like, Man, you got a lot of potential.
- 8:01SPEAKER_00: You should you should think about fighting, doing this and doing that.
- 8:04SPEAKER_00: And I was just like, Yeah, it's just kind of a fun exercise hobby to do or whatever in my free time.
- 8:09SPEAKER_00: But uh, and then I came up here and the idea kind of just struck me.
- 8:15SPEAKER_00: Uh it was during the offseason, I think it might have been you know right after nationals.
- 8:19SPEAKER_00: I was I was wasn't training much and I was kind of feeling froggy, so I was like, I'm gonna go hit the local jujitsu club with a with a couple of my friends and see what's going on there.
- 8:28SPEAKER_00: And uh Tanner Wanch ended up coming up to me at Lincoln Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, and uh outgoing guy, you know, really fun to hang out with, and he uh he kind of just introduced me to everything, and we became good friends, and you know, ever since like maybe my sophomore year of college, uh we started training together, just hitting pads, rolling around, doing this and doing that, and yeah, just kind of beating each other up for fun.
- 8:52SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
- 8:53SPEAKER_01: You know, I'm hearing kind of a repetitive theme of mentorship.
- 8:59SPEAKER_01: So, what does mentorship mean to you as a collegiate athlete and then as somebody that's setting foot into the sphere of MMA?
- 9:10SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so mentorship uh is a huge deal to me.
- 9:14SPEAKER_00: Um I try to, you know, surround myself around great people.
- 9:18SPEAKER_00: Um I try to find people that I want to be like and you know, people that have skills that I want to develop and I try to spend as much time as I can around them.
- 9:26SPEAKER_00: And you know, usually usually they're uh nice enough to take a kid like me under their wing that might have a little bit of potential and uh yeah, kind of teach me some stuff.
- 9:38SPEAKER_00: So like the mentors are kind of mentoring me right now.
- 9:41SPEAKER_00: Uh Wanch is mentoring me, he's been mentoring me for a while.
- 9:45SPEAKER_00: Um so yeah, it's been it's been fun.
- 9:47SPEAKER_00: And shout out to those guys because uh definitely wouldn't know where to go without them.
- 9:52SPEAKER_01: Yeah, them miner boys are pretty good guys, aren't they?
- 9:56SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, they're fun.
- 9:58unknown: Yeah, they are.
- 10:02SPEAKER_01: So I sit and I do commentary, so I will be calling your fight.
- 10:05SPEAKER_01: I'll be sitting cage side.
- 10:07SPEAKER_01: Um, but every time I show up at a dynasty event, the first person I text is Brady Minner.
- 10:13SPEAKER_01: And you know, gotta give the bro hug and catch up and good guys all the way around for sure.
- 10:19SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah.
- 10:20SPEAKER_01: So what are some of your interests outside of athletics?
- 10:25SPEAKER_00: Um, I like to do anything that scares me.
- 10:27SPEAKER_00: Uh I like to skydive.
- 10:30SPEAKER_00: Um, I like you know, I like to lift weights, get jacked.
- 10:34SPEAKER_00: I like to tan.
- 10:35SPEAKER_00: You know, I like to be tan and jacked.
- 10:37SPEAKER_00: That's my goal.
- 10:38SPEAKER_01: Um I love it.
- 10:41SPEAKER_00: I like to uh shoot guns.
- 10:44SPEAKER_00: Uh I like to drink a lot of tequila on the weekends.
- 10:48SPEAKER_00: I like to play with my dog.
- 10:50SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, I like to try to, you know, do manly shit and uh just do fun stuff.
- 10:56SPEAKER_01: Hell yeah, hell yeah.
- 10:57SPEAKER_01: I was just in Mexico three weeks ago, so I got the good tequila while I was there.
- 11:02SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
- 11:03SPEAKER_01: Yeah, dude, like they bring you that shit beachside and you ignore your drinks, beachside, and man, it was fantastic.
- 11:10SPEAKER_01: I have been having a bitch of a time trying to get back into my regular everyday routines.
- 11:16SPEAKER_01: It's been three weeks, man.
- 11:18SPEAKER_01: And see, I'm not I'm normally like I got all my partying out when I was younger.
- 11:23SPEAKER_01: I'm normally not a drinker.
- 11:24SPEAKER_01: And of course, as you get older, you have to be mindful of those things because two or three shots don't, you know, they phase you a lot more than they they did when they uh when I was your age, you know.
- 11:37SPEAKER_00: But right, that's awesome.
- 11:39SPEAKER_00: Heck yeah, the good tequila is in Mexico.
- 11:42SPEAKER_00: Hell yeah.
- 11:42SPEAKER_00: You been?
- 11:43SPEAKER_00: Uh I've been to Mexico once, but uh luckily I can kind of import that stuff.
- 11:48SPEAKER_00: My dad owns a liquor store, so Oh nice.
- 11:52SPEAKER_00: What's your favorite tequila?
- 11:54SPEAKER_00: Um lately I've been I've been on a big teramana kick.
- 11:57SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I like teramana.
- 11:59SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 12:01SPEAKER_01: That's awesome, man.
- 12:03SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
- 12:03SPEAKER_01: Well, it's it's pretty cool because I like having these types of conversations with fighters and breaking the fourth wall down a little bit and kind of you know, figuring out, you know, what goes on inside your mind outside of what happens on the mats or in the octagon.
- 12:21SPEAKER_01: You know, historically, MMA has a lot of stereotypes associated with it, and they're not always true.
- 12:29SPEAKER_01: And I always find that fighters are some of the most well-balanced, well-rounded, and intelligent people that I get the pleasure of having a conversation with.
- 12:39SPEAKER_01: Speaking of intelligence, you're gonna be taking on an engineering job in Florida before too long, yes?
- 12:46SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'll be taking on a field engineering job in Florida for a huge general contracting company.
- 12:53SPEAKER_00: Um, super excited about that.
- 12:55SPEAKER_00: You know, I got a college degree.
- 12:58SPEAKER_00: And uh I'm balanced in between hurting people and using my college degree, so I don't know what I want to do yet.
- 13:05SPEAKER_00: We'll figure it out.
- 13:06SPEAKER_00: How did you find that pathway to engineering?
- 13:11SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, some of my some of the richest people I knew growing up owned, you know, their own construction uh companies and were engineers, and so I was like, I know I'm gonna go to college to wrestle and and you know, try to beat people up on the mat, so I might as well pick something worth my while.
- 13:29SPEAKER_00: And I don't want to be stuck behind a desk job, so you know, let's go do some construction, let's go hang out with you know some off-the-wall people and have a good time.
- 13:38SPEAKER_00: And you know, I don't I like to be up and moving around, and I don't like to be, you know, sitting down at a desk.
- 13:45SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, I get that.
- 13:47SPEAKER_01: I get that, I get that.
- 13:48SPEAKER_01: You know, you can uh beat people up on the mats and then uh beat people up in the bank account as well.
- 13:55SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's the plan.
- 13:58SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
- 13:59SPEAKER_01: So how did you land in Florida?
- 14:00SPEAKER_01: Did you just do like a job search, or are you like, I just want to move where the weather's nice?
- 14:06SPEAKER_00: Um, well, no state taxes.
- 14:08SPEAKER_00: Um you know, I was I was kind of either thinking Texas, Florida, Tennessee, something like that.
- 14:15SPEAKER_00: I was like, you know, I want to go somewhere where you know the state's not taking all my money because you know I'm a little greedy.
- 14:21SPEAKER_00: I like I like the money to be in my pockets and let me disperse with it as I want to.
- 14:26SPEAKER_00: Um and so yeah, in Florida, I'm a I'm a you know, big sun guy.
- 14:32SPEAKER_00: I like the sun.
- 14:33SPEAKER_00: The sun makes me feel good.
- 14:34SPEAKER_00: I want to get out of the Midwest.
- 14:36SPEAKER_00: I've been staying in the Midwest my whole life, and I like the vitamin D.
- 14:40SPEAKER_00: I like being outside all the time.
- 14:42SPEAKER_00: I like you know, running outside with my dog, and you know, the the beaches and bikinis sounds pretty good down there.
- 14:50SPEAKER_01: Hell yeah, dude.
- 14:51SPEAKER_01: Hell yeah.
- 14:52SPEAKER_01: That's I'm the same exact way.
- 14:54SPEAKER_01: I have this old adage that I tell people, I'm like, dude, you can pick one to bitch about.
- 14:59SPEAKER_01: You either bitch about the cold or you bitch about the heat, but I ain't ever gonna bitch about the heat.
- 15:04SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 15:06SPEAKER_01: I'm so sick of Midwest winters, it kills me.
- 15:10SPEAKER_01: And this year sucked, dude.
- 15:12SPEAKER_01: It feels like every time it's about to get nice, we get blasted with one more spell, right?
- 15:18SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we got hit by that crazy blizzard the other day.
- 15:20SPEAKER_00: It was shaking my whole house.
- 15:21SPEAKER_00: I'm like, oh my god, I got two more months.
- 15:24SPEAKER_00: I got two more months in this.
- 15:26SPEAKER_01: Dude, I know, I know.
- 15:27SPEAKER_01: And then and then it had that like Texas mud buried in it, and everybody's cars were all nasty, and it's like, what the hell is this?
- 15:36SPEAKER_00: Yeah, crazy.
- 15:37SPEAKER_00: I'm like, man, I'm a smart guy.
- 15:39SPEAKER_00: I made the right decision going to Florida soon because I cannot do this no more.
- 15:43SPEAKER_00: And and I got a little pit bull.
- 15:46SPEAKER_00: I don't think he's really much of a snow dog.
- 15:48SPEAKER_00: He's he's no husky, he's definitely a vitamin D type guy.
- 15:52SPEAKER_01: I absolutely love that.
- 15:54SPEAKER_01: So, um, you know, Florida, it's kind of like Colorado in the aspect that it is an MMA hotspot as well.
- 16:04SPEAKER_01: So have you started scouting some gyms or some teams to possibly train with out there when you move up there?
- 16:11SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I talked to some guys at KillClip and uh one of my old teammates, uh Tyler Berger, he's his manager, and those guys, they work out of American Top Team down there.
- 16:22SPEAKER_00: So, you know, I'm trying to come up with a decision.
- 16:26SPEAKER_00: I'm kind of want to move down there, get settled, and then and then, you know, pick which one's gonna be best for me and and move forward with that down there.
- 16:34SPEAKER_01: So without giving any kind of strategy away, you make the walk to the octagon.
- 16:44SPEAKER_01: What can fans expect on the night of May 3rd, 2025 at Spring Brawl Pinnacle Bank Arena from Bubba Wilson?
- 16:52SPEAKER_00: Um, not from me, but you can expect this other guy to bleed a lot.
- 16:56SPEAKER_00: Um, you can expect me to drag his face across the canvas, you know, a lot of a lot of elbows, um, a lot of devastating stuff, and then you can, you know, expect a good party afterwards because we're gonna party hard on these guys.
- 17:09SPEAKER_01: Yes! Yes! I love it, dude.
- 17:11SPEAKER_01: I am looking so forward to calling your fight, and I I and I hope I get to hang out and maybe even grab a shot at tequila with you at the time.
- 17:20SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, let's do it.
- 17:21SPEAKER_01: We should just grab a bottle of terra, I'll keep a bottle of terra mana in my backpack.
- 17:24SPEAKER_01: No, security won't let me in with that.
- 17:26SPEAKER_01: We'll figure something out.
- 17:28SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we'll take a shot in the back afterwards or something.
- 17:30SPEAKER_00: Yeah, hell yeah.
- 17:31SPEAKER_00: Or maybe before the fight, who cares?
- 17:34SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, that's that's a good idea.
- 17:37SPEAKER_01: That's good.
- 17:38SPEAKER_01: You know, I went in one of the dynasty events not too long ago, one of the fighters chugged a bunch of Gatorade in the back and projectile vomited, and that's how the fight ended.
- 17:48SPEAKER_00: Oh, wow.
- 17:49SPEAKER_00: That's a rookie mistake.
- 17:51SPEAKER_00: Rookie mistake.
- 17:54SPEAKER_01: It was it was amazing.
- 17:56SPEAKER_01: It was like this blue projectile vomit.
- 17:58SPEAKER_01: I'm like, I've never seen anything like this.
- 18:00SPEAKER_01: This might be the best fight I've ever seen.
- 18:04SPEAKER_01: So have you gone to a dynasty event as a fan?
- 18:07SPEAKER_00: I haven't.
- 18:08SPEAKER_00: No.
- 18:08SPEAKER_00: I didn't I didn't really know about it, really.
- 18:11SPEAKER_00: Really?
- 18:12SPEAKER_00: To be truthful.
- 18:13SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 18:13SPEAKER_01: So this is gonna be like your first big event the whole way around.
- 18:17SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah, big fighting event, yeah.
- 18:19SPEAKER_00: You know, I wrestled in Pinnacle Bank Arena my freshman year for Big Tens, and you know, it was pretty sold out, so that was a you know, and wrestling in a couple a few national championships.
- 18:28SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
- 18:29SPEAKER_01: So, what's some random fun fact about Bubba that people don't know that would surprise them?
- 18:36SPEAKER_00: I am working on getting my skydiving license um so that you know I can take people and and you know go by myself and eventually try to work on getting my own plane so I can go skydive whenever I want to.
- 18:52SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
- 18:53SPEAKER_01: That's awesome.
- 18:54SPEAKER_01: Man, I have really enjoyed this conversation.
- 18:57SPEAKER_01: My wrap-up question is one that I love asking everybody because everybody gives a unique answer.
- 19:06SPEAKER_01: Given your experience in the world, whether it be in wrestling, in MMA, just as an all-around bros, bro, what's your advice for making the world a better place tomorrow than what it is today?
- 19:19SPEAKER_00: Um, I think ever everyone likes to have a good time, right?
- 19:22SPEAKER_00: I think, you know, you know, whether we're going out there and fighting, or I think there's not a lot of room in this world for, you know, uh just negative behaviors.
- 19:33SPEAKER_00: Like I'm here to have a good time, and I'm sure I got a lot in common with my opponent, and I'm sure if I see him on O Street partying outdoors, you know, we'll share a beer or whatever, or a tequila shot.
- 19:43SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, let's just I we're all here for a good time.
- 19:46SPEAKER_00: Let's all make her make it worthwhile because we're not here for long.
- 19:50SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes.
- 19:51SPEAKER_01: That is the I I think that's a line, even.
- 19:54SPEAKER_01: It's like we're not here for a long time, but we're definitely here for a good time.
- 19:58SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
- 20:00SPEAKER_01: Man, I tell you what, I have really enjoyed getting to know you, and like I said, I can't wait to call your fight on May 3rd, and we will do that shot.
- 20:11SPEAKER_01: We will high five.
- 20:13SPEAKER_01: I'm so excited.
- 20:14SPEAKER_01: Bubba Wilson, thank you for doing the podcast, my friend.
- 20:17SPEAKER_01: The world is a much better place with you in it.
- 20:20SPEAKER_00: Thanks, Mike.
- 20:20SPEAKER_00: I appreciate it.
- 20:21SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah, this was fun, and I'm glad to meet you.
- 20:24SPEAKER_00: And I hope you enjoy the show that on May 3rd, and yeah, we'll enjoy it to keep the chat together.
- 20:29SPEAKER_00: I'm looking forward to it.
- 20:30SPEAKER_00: Woohoo!
- 20:32SPEAKER_01: Once again, I'd like to thank my friend Bubba Wilson for joining me on the podcast today.
- 20:38SPEAKER_01: Make sure you give him a follow on Instagram at BubbaWilson165.
- 20:44SPEAKER_01: This is just the beginning for him.
- 20:47SPEAKER_01: He's got a long career ahead of him.
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- 21:05SPEAKER_01: Man, this is an exciting week.
- 21:07SPEAKER_01: I cannot wait to see all of you at the fight.
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- 21:16SPEAKER_01: Let me know you've been there.
- 21:18SPEAKER_01: Especially if you see me in the first time.
- 21:21SPEAKER_01: That's been caught on the mic with Michael Clark.
- 21:24SPEAKER_01: I'm Michael Clark.
- 21:26SPEAKER_01: Until next time.
- 21:28SPEAKER_01: Thank you.