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Chris Paul's Untold Details on Skills Challenge DQ with Wemby + Bronny, SGA vs. Jokic NBA MVP Debate · Bleacher Report

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  Speaker 1: I am so happy to be here. I get to
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  Speaker 1: interview with somebody that I have had the pleasure of
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  Speaker 1: interviewing time and time again. But when you are an
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  Speaker 1: NBA legend, you can never get enough. A man who
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  Speaker 1: needs no introduction, the one and only Chris Paul. We've
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  Speaker 1: got a lively crowd, so mixed emotions, Chris. Thank you
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  Speaker 1: all so very much for being here. Chris, it was
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  Speaker 1: so exciting going through this interview because you know, I
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  Speaker 1: got to chat with you when you were an Okay, see,
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  Speaker 1: I had chatted with you when you were a Phoenix Sun.
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  Speaker 1: We have seen many times, but you have just done
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  Speaker 1: so much in your basketball career. So first off, there's
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  Speaker 1: a major congrats and order. He is now second all
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  Speaker 1: time and steals. Please give it up for that. Thank
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  Speaker 1: you well well deserved. So I want to talk about
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  Speaker 1: some lists. He's top three all time and deals and
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  Speaker 1: assists in both of those lists. Go John Stockton, Chris Paul,
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  Speaker 1: Jason Kidd. What story does that tell.
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  Speaker 2: Means? We all played till we were old.
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  Speaker 3: You know it's crazy because I actually was teammates with
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  Speaker 3: Ja Kidd in two thousand and eight the Olympic team,
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  Speaker 3: and to know John Stockton to know J Kidd actually
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  Speaker 3: took a picture with those guys at the seventy five
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  Speaker 3: year anniversary thing an All Star.
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  Speaker 2: But it's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: I remember being a rookie going to play in Utah
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  Speaker 3: and the Utah is two big banners up there of
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  Speaker 3: John Stockton. Think it's like fifteen thousand something assist in
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  Speaker 3: thirty two hundred steals, and so that was a goal
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  Speaker 3: of mine to like try to break that recor not happening.
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  Speaker 2: Definitely not happening.
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  Speaker 1: Be a long long time, but never say never.
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  Speaker 2: I ain't doing it. That's how.
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  Speaker 1: When I was looking at all your accomplishments though also
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  Speaker 1: seven times NBA All Defensive First Team, how much pride
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  Speaker 1: do you take in that, you know we don't see
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  Speaker 1: as much defense these days.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot of pride.
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  Speaker 3: I have kids now, fifteen year old son, twelve year
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  Speaker 3: old daughter, and I'm always talking to them about defense.
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  Speaker 3: My teammates, I'm always talking to them about defense. I
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  Speaker 3: got a lot of younger teammates now that I ask
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  Speaker 3: them about defense and whatnot. I'll be like you, I'll
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  Speaker 3: ask them if they think I've ever made the All
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  Speaker 3: Defensive teams and they'd be like, no, I'll be like,
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  Speaker 3: it's actually nine nine times. But it's just something that
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  Speaker 3: I actually hate about the game now that it gets overlooked. Right,
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  Speaker 3: everything is about the analytics and all that instead of
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  Speaker 3: like taking pride in defense and defending. And I've always
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  Speaker 3: had respect for guys who've done that, guys like Tony Allen,
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  Speaker 3: guy like TJ McConnell who every night picks up full court.
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  Speaker 3: It's really hard to play defense night in the night out.
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  Speaker 1: So when we are seeing maybe bad defense, is that
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  Speaker 1: about low effort? Is it a mentality thing? What is
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  Speaker 1: it that has shifted in terms of how defense has evolved?
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  Speaker 1: I love he sat up, he's ready for this.
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  Speaker 2: No, because that's a really good question.
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  Speaker 3: I think one of the things is sort of copycat league, right,
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  Speaker 3: Like a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Of times.
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  Speaker 3: Defensive schemes, well, a lot of teams switching things like
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  Speaker 3: that now. But in order to defend, it means you
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  Speaker 3: got to really invest time, right, You got to invest time.
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  Speaker 3: So that means you got to watch film, you gotta
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  Speaker 3: watch clips. Because everyone in the league has tendencies, all
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  Speaker 3: of us. We play eighty two games a year, games,
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  Speaker 3: night in, night out, So everybody like we're all really
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  Speaker 3: good players, but they have the analytics that say this
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  Speaker 3: guy goes to his right sixty five percent of the time.
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  Speaker 3: So in order to play defense, you you've got to
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  Speaker 3: be selfless. You know, you got to realize that you've
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  Speaker 3: got to really put the time and effort and.
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  Speaker 1: Watch well because you can learn the tendency is not
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  Speaker 1: only from obviously real gameplay. That's also why I know
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  Speaker 1: you take watching basketball. So seriously, tell me some of
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  Speaker 1: your favorite tendencies that you've picked up from some guys.
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  Speaker 3: My favorite tendencies, what a euro step is one of them.
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  Speaker 3: Like the eurostep. While it's a great move, people don't
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  Speaker 3: realize the ball is in the same spot every single time.
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  Speaker 3: So when a god does a euro step, I don't
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  Speaker 3: really pay attention to their feet. I'm watching the basketball,
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  Speaker 3: which is why I'll steal it or I mean, I
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  Speaker 3: got five hand surgeries to show for all the steals
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  Speaker 3: that I've gotten.
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  Speaker 2: But the tendencies.
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  Speaker 3: And I think another thing too, is anybody in here
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  Speaker 3: have kids. Everybody got kids, and so a lot of
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  Speaker 3: a lot of kids now they have trainers, Like they
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  Speaker 3: all have a trainer, a personal trainer, and they work
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  Speaker 3: out for hour a day. And I try to tell
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  Speaker 3: my kids all the time that you got to do
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  Speaker 3: something that somebody else isn't doing.
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  Speaker 2: You know, what's your story gonna look like?
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  Speaker 3: To get up early, because if you're doing the same
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  Speaker 3: thing at all your homies and all your friends doing,
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  Speaker 3: everybody just gonna stay at the same the same ability level.
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  Speaker 3: And then the other thing too, is you got to
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  Speaker 3: play like one on one, right, We used to play
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  Speaker 3: one on one every day.
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  Speaker 1: That would like you guys to bring that back.
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  Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, but I mean it was.
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  Speaker 3: It's interesting because of the amount of games and it
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  Speaker 3: cut down on back to backs and whatnot. But we
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  Speaker 3: used to practice a lot more in the NBA, and
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  Speaker 3: then the one on one battles before and after practice
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  Speaker 3: is where you learn a lot because that's where you compete.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's a lot of junk talking, it's a lot
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  Speaker 3: of you know, guys get into it a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: But that's that competitive edge that I think everyone should have.
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  Speaker 1: Where do you think that went? Not the competitive edge?
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  Speaker 1: The one on once.
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  Speaker 3: I got a lot of beliefs. It's it's tough now
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  Speaker 3: because of the way the schedule is set up. You know,
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  Speaker 3: actually being a part of that committee or whatnot figuring out,
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  Speaker 3: you know, because when you cut down on back to backs,
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  Speaker 3: what happens is you actually make it to where now
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  Speaker 3: we play almost like Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Saturday. It used
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  Speaker 3: to be two or three days between games more often,
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  Speaker 3: so you had an opportunity to practice.
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  Speaker 2: But now, like for our team.
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  Speaker 3: We don't have two days between games for the rest
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  Speaker 3: of the season. So on none game days, it's hard
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  Speaker 3: to practice because you don't want to be on your feet,
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  Speaker 3: running and jumping every single day. So that's what happened
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  Speaker 3: to the league is is not really any time to practice.
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  Speaker 1: So there was this really funny clip that went around.
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  Speaker 1: You were guarding Trey Murphy and you're on him and
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  Speaker 1: you just hear Trey Murphy go no, Chris, stop, Chris, no, Chris.
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  Speaker 1: Have you seen this clip?
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  Speaker 2: I saw it?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, you also heard it. Yeah, But that is always
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  Speaker 1: such a reminder to me of all the talking that
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  Speaker 1: is going on out there when these guys are playing.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm curious the funniest or best conversation that you've
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  Speaker 1: had with the guy while you're defending him, Because I
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  Speaker 1: love that clip.
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  Speaker 2: It happens all the time.
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  Speaker 3: First of all, when I've seen that, I thought it
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  Speaker 3: was weird that trade was miked up for a regular game.
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  Speaker 2: Was it was a non TV game, So what are
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  Speaker 2: you doing? Right?
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  Speaker 3: First and foremost, H yeah, that's weird. Second of all,
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  Speaker 3: he didn't show the clip where a few players later,
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  Speaker 3: I actually stole it from me, you know what I mean? So, uh,
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  Speaker 3: I don't It's always a lot of conversations during during
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  Speaker 3: the game, right, and I think it's healthy. We actually, uh,
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  Speaker 3: the competition committee we sort of talked about it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know if I can say, but anyway, you.
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  Speaker 1: Wouldn't say anything here, And I.
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  Speaker 3: Know, I think it's really interesting because us as players,
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  Speaker 3: we sort of, uh, you pay attention to the rules
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  Speaker 3: of the game, right, So Taylor, when you see a
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  Speaker 3: guy get dunked on and you see a guy like
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  Speaker 3: flex on him when you watch a game.
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  Speaker 2: What you think that's a tech? Right?
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  Speaker 3: So we talked about it on one of our committees
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  Speaker 3: and was like, the fans actually like that.
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  Speaker 2: You want to see the competitiveness.
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  Speaker 3: You know, players react like that and say tech because
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  Speaker 3: that's what it's always been. And so I think the
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  Speaker 3: league we had that call maybe like two months ago.
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  Speaker 2: So now I think as long as it ain't nothing too.
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  Speaker 3: Crazy, I think as you guys watch games, you'll see
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  Speaker 3: guys be able to show emotion like it's an emotional game,
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  Speaker 3: you know, like like with the referees and all this stuff,
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  Speaker 3: like this is our livelihood, this is how we compete.
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  Speaker 3: So I think when people be like, man, what is
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  Speaker 3: he mad about? What the hell would I be mad?
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  Speaker 3: You know, like I care, like I want to win.
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  Speaker 3: And so if you look at most of the commercials
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  Speaker 3: for the league, it's all what dunks And that's not
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  Speaker 3: me dunks, it's all dunks and things like that where
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  Speaker 3: you show emotions. So yeah, we just wanted to try
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  Speaker 3: to hopefully make sure that that emotion can be in
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  Speaker 3: the game. Just like when two guys get to arguing,
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  Speaker 3: like we always say, officials, y'all do not have to
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  Speaker 3: get them double text, just just just.
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  Speaker 2: Walk up to them and be like, y'all, good, y'all.
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  Speaker 3: If it goes a little too crazy, go ahead, because
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  Speaker 3: but you know, that's a part of it.
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  Speaker 2: It's a part of it.
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  Speaker 1: It's also in a weird way how you get fans too,
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  Speaker 1: because when fans are watching a player and they see
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  Speaker 1: that emotion, they see that intensity, they see something that
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  Speaker 1: they relate to. Maybe they can't play basketball, but they
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  Speaker 1: know what it's like to want to win. They know
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  Speaker 1: what it's like to want to come on top, to
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  Speaker 1: feel so overwhelmed by something that it has to show.
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  Speaker 1: So it is strange that sometimes that's harnessed.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you want to.
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  Speaker 3: See guys care, right, especially in the regular season games
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  Speaker 3: because everybody just talks about the playoffs. In the regular
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  Speaker 3: season game, if a guy gets dunked on and a
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  Speaker 3: guy likes screens and yells in his face, then he
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  Speaker 3: probably gonna go down to the other end and want
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  Speaker 3: to redeem himself.
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  Speaker 2: Yep. So now the competition continues.
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  Speaker 3: To raise and raise and raise, and hopefully it'll be
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  Speaker 3: better for the fans instead of calling text and now
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  Speaker 3: everybody got to be on pins and needles and if
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  Speaker 3: they get another one, they ejected.
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  Speaker 1: Well, speaking of raising competition, every single team that Chris
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  Speaker 1: Ball has been on, all seven, they won more games
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  Speaker 1: the year Chris Paul joined than they did the year
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  Speaker 1: that he wasn't on the team. This is probably a
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  Speaker 1: stat that you've heard time time again. A lot of
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  Speaker 1: us in the media call this the Chris Paul effect,
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  Speaker 1: what do you call it?
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  Speaker 3: Uh, just call a lot of moving, a lot of
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  Speaker 3: a lot of packing your bags and moving, you know,
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  Speaker 3: And just I don't know, it's competition, right, even though
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  Speaker 3: I may not be on a team, you know, when
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  Speaker 3: you get traded or whatnot. I've watched so many guys
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  Speaker 3: in this league get traded and say, I ain't showing up,
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  Speaker 3: I ain't going I ain't doing this, I ain't doing that,
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  Speaker 3: And a lot of guys' career have.
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  Speaker 2: Been cut short because of that, right.
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  Speaker 3: And I love to play basketball more than anything, Like,
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  Speaker 3: I love to play, I love to compete, and so
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  Speaker 3: every time I go to a team, it's in the beginning.
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  Speaker 2: It's about team building. Right.
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  Speaker 3: Just because they said y'all were sorry, don't mean we
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  Speaker 3: gotta be you know what I mean. So I think
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  Speaker 3: that's the thing that's always motivated me from team to team.
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  Speaker 1: And I know, of course, you are a team first guy,
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  Speaker 1: and you all always sort of differ in these moments.
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  Speaker 1: But do you feel like there is a direct link
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  Speaker 1: to the team's success and you being there?
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  Speaker 2: I I mean, I hope.
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  Speaker 3: So I'll tell you this, Yeah, I mean, I'll tell
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  Speaker 3: you straight up any guy who tells you when they
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  Speaker 3: leave a team you know, and and that team does better,
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  Speaker 3: they are not.
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  Speaker 2: Happy, you know what I mean, They're not.
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  Speaker 3: That's like if you left your job or whatnot, and
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  Speaker 3: now your job just took off and then they went
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  Speaker 3: was a billion dollar company, You're gonna be mad as hell.
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  Speaker 2: You're gonna be mad so.
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  Speaker 3: So far for the for the most part, changing teams
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  Speaker 3: here and there or whatnot, teams or players at times
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  Speaker 3: they miss playing with you because of what you may
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  Speaker 3: be brought out in them as far as like, uh,
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  Speaker 3: competitive edge or whatever it is.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's been pretty cool.
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  Speaker 1: Well, speaking of teams that you've been on. Back in
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  Speaker 1: I want to say twenty twenty, I took a visit
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  Speaker 1: to Oklahoma City and I interviewed Chris and Shae went
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  Speaker 1: along with you. Were at the bowling alley. I beat Shaye,
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  Speaker 1: Chris beat me. But even then, in that moment, did
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  Speaker 1: you see that Shae was going to become what he
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  Speaker 1: has become today.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if I knew that, but I I
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  Speaker 3: hoped and just knowing him in the way that he
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  Speaker 3: just loved the hoop. Like I say this all the
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  Speaker 3: time over my career. The guys that I've gotten the
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  Speaker 3: closest to as far as teammates, friends or whatever, are
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  Speaker 3: the guys who just love basketball.
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  Speaker 2: My wedding Gennaro Pargo, who's.
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  Speaker 3: An assistant coach for the Indiana Pacers, we just got
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  Speaker 3: closed because he loves basketball, and even my basketball camp
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  Speaker 3: during the summer now.
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  Speaker 2: Narrow, he worked camp and he hooped with us.
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  Speaker 3: And so Shaye was like that, Shae, every time we
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  Speaker 3: be on the road or whatnot, he knew I was
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  Speaker 3: watching games. Even at this point, we still talk once
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  Speaker 3: or twice a week about the games that's going on
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  Speaker 3: and just yeah, and now it's it's trouble for everybody
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  Speaker 3: for a while, No, for sure, Because so this is
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  Speaker 3: my question.
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  Speaker 1: When I look at the Thunder, obviously I think that
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  Speaker 1: there are may be eleven games ahead a hold of
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  Speaker 1: that number one spot. Are they as good as that
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  Speaker 1: gap signifies? Like, is the gap between the Thunder and
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  Speaker 1: everyone else in the West as vast as the record shows?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think they're a really good team. They're a
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  Speaker 3: really good team. They're well coached. Mark was assistant coach
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  Speaker 3: for US that year I played in Okay. See what
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  Speaker 3: I noticed when I watch Okay see play and it
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  Speaker 3: has a lot to do with Shae and him being.
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  Speaker 2: The type of leader that he is.
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  Speaker 3: Is that everybody, even though Shaye could possibly be should
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  Speaker 3: be the MVP this year?
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  Speaker 1: Who you say should yeah over Jokic.
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  Speaker 2: Listen Shae, Shae just.
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  Speaker 3: They found a way to make everyone equal, right, everyone
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  Speaker 3: on their team is equal, even though.
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  Speaker 2: He is who he is.
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  Speaker 3: Jalen Williams was an All Star Shade their team. You know,
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  Speaker 3: Mark gives them the freedom to just come out and play.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean to see lou Dort, who
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  Speaker 3: was a rookie that year, I played to see the
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  Speaker 3: confidence that he plays with. So when you watch them
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  Speaker 3: play and share the ball and kick the ball, it's
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  Speaker 3: just looks like a really fun way to play. And
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  Speaker 3: I tell you all the time, you can tell a
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  Speaker 3: lot about a team with the things that they do pregame,
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  Speaker 3: during the game, postgame, even the little thing where their
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  Speaker 3: whole team stay there for the postgame thing. Now, the
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  Speaker 3: thing that you always worry about with any team is
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  Speaker 3: when they hit adversity, right, and I think them experiencing
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  Speaker 3: what they did last year obviously was adversity. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they got a really good team.
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  Speaker 1: How do you define MVP?
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  Speaker 3: How do I define it?
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  Speaker 1: Like? Do you feel like it's best player, best team?
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  Speaker 1: Do you think it is just you know, the guy
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  Speaker 1: that is doing the most with less? Like how do you?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I think it varies sometimes from from year to year,
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  Speaker 3: depends on who you're asking and what's what's going on,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean? But uh, you obviously gotta
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  Speaker 3: be the best player on a good team, right on
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  Speaker 3: a good team, and obviously figure out what your team
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  Speaker 3: would do without you. You know, would your team be
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  Speaker 3: in the situation at dam without you?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: You?
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  Speaker 1: Because of course you have played so long, you have
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  Speaker 1: played with a lot of stars and a lot of talent.
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  Speaker 1: Right now you're playing with everyone's favorite player, Victor Rumbinyama.
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  Speaker 1: This is what I always tell people about Winby. But
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  Speaker 1: the very first time I met Wemby, the first questions
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  Speaker 1: he asked me were what I was reading, and then
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  Speaker 1: he saw my aura ring and asked me about my
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  Speaker 1: sleeping patterns, which I have talked to a lot of
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  Speaker 1: NBA players. The first conversations never go that way. And
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  Speaker 1: I feel like one of the things that separates when
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  Speaker 1: be outside of his other worldliness is just his approach
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  Speaker 1: to life and who he is as an individual. How
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  Speaker 1: did those feed one another.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting because, like you said, I've had an
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  Speaker 3: opportunity to play with a number of greats over my career,
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  Speaker 3: and I told Vic a few times that I'm glad
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  Speaker 3: that I got a chance to be his teammate, right
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  Speaker 3: because I played against him last year his rookie year.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: We actually exchanged jerseys in Golden State. But in watching
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: him play, I would have had some type of perception
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: in my head of who he was or what was
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: he like. First of all, I messed with Vic all
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: the time because he almost more American than French.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: He is.
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: He's really smart, like really intelligent. Before every game we do.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: Trivia trivia.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: One of the guys, Brendan that works on our train
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: and staff, like with ninety minutes on the clock, he
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: puts up trivia every game. And it could be Disney movies,
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: it could be all this different type stuff, it could
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: be all this stuff.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: And Vict know everything.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: He really all the stuff that I feel like he's
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: not supposed to know.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: But that's what makes him unique.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: Right in the league that has gotten extremely young and
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: everyone's on their phones and on social media, Vic come
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: in the training room with his book, you know what
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: I mean. And he's a really really good basketball player,
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: but a better person. I think people say that all
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: the time and just sort of throw it out there,
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: but I mean that about him.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: Because I think that with him, it's the difference between
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: soaking up knowledge, which to what he's doing, versus like
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: soaking up information. And I think some of what the
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: younger guys are doing is more information and maybe a
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: little less knowledge, and Victor seems to have mastered that.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: Man, he asked a lot of questions like myself right,
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: and we have some of the best talks about things.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: And it's interesting because he's coming into the league. I'm
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: on my way out, so it's just an interesting perspective.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: And it's really dope that we ask each other all
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: these different type questions. Because I have kids, obviously, that's
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: getting that's growing up. So it's cool that he teaches
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: me things as well as I try to teach him.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: What is it like for you to say that out loud,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: I'm on my way out?
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's cool.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, it's tough to a certain extent, but you know,
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: I don't know when but I do know. I miss
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: my family. This is my twentieth season. I'm so blessed
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: and grateful that I've been able to do it. My
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: kids are fifteen and twelve, and they don't really know
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: life like with me consistently right, they might.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Not love it, but I still you.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: Know, I always say I would have never made it
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: to the NBA without my parents, especially without my dad,
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: like in the backyard time, my brother's right hand behind
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: our back making us dribble with our left hand and
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: all these things.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: And so not being able to be in the stands for.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: My kids ever, right, like yeah, really ever, except for
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: the summer.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Hits a little bit different as you get a little older.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so and correct me if I'm wrong. But through
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: our different interviews, I feel like the topic of retirement
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: has come up and your thoughts on it have been
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: a little different than they are right now. When did
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: that change and what has that just general evolution been.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because when you asked me when I played in Phoenix.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: And Phoenix, Yeah, Phoeni we talked about a little no KC.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah. But it's interesting because it's funny too
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: because I'm very self motivated and I actually remember a
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: former teammate of mine was on ESPN some years ago
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: when I got traded to.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: OKC, and he was like, oh, he's done.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: Now, this is a former teammate of mine is like
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: he needed to retire, he need to retire. And I
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: just be like, okay, you know, okay, I've been grateful
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: to continue to play, to continue to play. And I
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: don't know, I think as time goes on, you know,
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: your kids are younger, doing this, doing that, and now
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: my son's about to get his license.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, big time.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that right there really makes you start to put
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: things into perspective.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: So obviously, you know, there was all of the talk
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: and opinions about when we got to see Bronnie coming
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: to the league, and I felt really thankful I got
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: to do the season opener, so I was there when
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Lebron and Bronnie hit the court for the first time.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: And in that postgame interview, one of the main things
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: Lebron talked about was just how this game takes you
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: away from your family. So when you see them out there,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: is that really what you think, Like, how much of
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: a gift it is to be able to go to
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: work with your son?
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll never forget it because I've known Bronnie since
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: he was born. I was at the hospital when Bryce
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: was born, you know, so oh.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: During the playoffs, yeah yeah, and then you went to
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: the game that serious after that.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: So it definitely hits a little different watching you know, Bronnie.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: I think the thing that I've been most proud of,
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: and obviously it seemed like a topic of conversation all
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: the time.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: I think for me, what I'm most.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: Proud of to see that with Bronnie and and bron
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: is to know how much work Bronnie put in, right,
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: I think that's what people miss and all that storytelling
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: is he's been faced with all these different things. Not
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: saying this right or wrong, but he's been faced with
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: all these different things at this age. Oh he ain't
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: that good at this age, and Bronnie just keep his
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: head down and he do the work.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: He do the work, man. So I'm I'm I'm happy
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: for that and that.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: I think anybody who hates on that situation and got
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: a chance to see that is basically just envious and jealous,
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: you know, because to see a guy out there playing
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: with his son, that's that's why.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: But also to watch History like it's really First off,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: it's crazy with Lebron just in a vacuum is doing.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: It's crazy that he's, you know that age doing what
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: he's doing. So I love it. Gotta chat with you
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: about all Star walk me through the skills challenge from
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: your point of view, it.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Was an idea or whatnot.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: It didn't it didn't work out.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: But they did. They did say that it was okay
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: to do that.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: M So they say it's okay. They cleared it before
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: you went out there, and so you were very confused
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: when they said you're disqualified because you got clearance prior.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: Right, But that was that was neither here nor there,
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: but it was what it was. It was a wild situation.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Well, I love that post game Winby is saying how
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: that was his idea? Is that true?
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: I ain't see his interview, but.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: He did say that. I would never say he did
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: it if he didn't.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but it Vic is really really smart, like
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: really really smart. And I don't think I did it
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: as well as he did it, you know what I
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: mean as far as throwing the ball, but it was
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: I got a bunch of texts from from people like
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: really really like high end business and stuff. And they
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: was like, well, I'm just glad you tried something different,
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, it's always funny because in a moment like that,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: everyone's like, oh, such a Chris Paul move, and you're
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: saying it wasn't even you.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: It wasn't and that's what what? Uh? Who was we
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: just talking about? Trey Murphy?
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he came up to me right after that, and
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: I couldn't tell you joking or not. He was like, dang,
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: you're gonna cheating the thing. And I looked at him like,
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: if you don't shut.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Up, you know you like it.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Relax. It's just it's so funny how these things go.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Everyone has like their narrative and they stick it. But
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: I do have a question, and I I'm asking this
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: more so because I had a front row seated at
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: the bubble, so I could hear when y'all were talking.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: I could hear everyone talking to the refs. I remember
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: a time you turned to ref you said that isn't
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: in the rule book, and you said it to a ref.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: How memorized do you have the rule book?
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: I probably didn't say that.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I but like you were like joking,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: you weren't being serious.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: Right in the bubble. I don't know what it would
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: have been. But I've been on the competition committee for
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: seventeen years. Yeah, right, So the competition committee is two
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: hours of going over the rules.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Of the game.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: Like as a fan, you probably you probably don't remember
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: when you missed the shot and got the rebound. It
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: was twenty four seconds, right, and now it's fourteen seconds.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: There's a whole committee that comes up with the different
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: rules of the game, which I've been on for seventeen years.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I didn't invested the time in it. So
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: I think I know what's going on.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is the kind of player i'd want
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: to be. Like, I'm like, listen, I know everything going on,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: and I think it is so cool. Outside of all
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: of the amazing things you brought to the game on
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: the court, you have been so pivotal in so many
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: off the court moments. Are you equally as proud of
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: both or more?
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy because a lot of times I forget
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: a lot of the things that I've been a part of.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: And had ownership change a few times.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: Back when I played in New Orleans, the owner of
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: the team lost.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: The team to the NBA.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: I E I got traded to the Lakers and they
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: nixed that trade.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was Today's the five year anniversary for the day.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: The game shut down at ok.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: See, yep, it is it is. And then you had
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: to get to work.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: I had to get to work to come up with
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: the bubble that was. That is probably one of the
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: most interesting things that I'll never forget get right is
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: everyone was home, obviously during the pandemic, and I was
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: on zooms every day every single day. We were actually
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: trying to hire a new executive director and trying to
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: come up with the bubble, trying to figure out what
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: city it was going to be in first, trying to
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: see if we could get the players on the same page.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: Then we tried to figure out what teams we were
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: going to take to the bubble. He ain't got enough
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: time for me to tell you all about that.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: You just are generally just a natural born leader, and
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: I'm curious where you want that outlet to be when
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: you aren't in the basketball court. Do you want to coach?
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Do you want to be a politician?
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: What do you what do you want?
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: Definitely don't want to be a politician. Definitely don't want
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: to be a politician. I have an AU basketball program,
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: so grassroots program where I think we got twelve kids
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: that play in the NBA now, so I coach those
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: kids during the summer. I don't think o't coach in
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: the NBA no time soon, because I've been going for
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: my family for all this time.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: I don't want to be gone doing that.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: And it's hard to coach NBA guys because we don't listen,
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: you know. Yeah, But I definitely want.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: To continue to grow in business. Right I have my
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: snack brand. There's other.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: Teams that I'm interested in because I just love the
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: team aspect and building right in building. So I definitely
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: want to continue to connect people and see what else
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: is out there.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, since I've known you, you have been
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: incredibly passionate about many things, but two that stick out
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: are healthy eating and giving back to your community. I
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: know that you have a really important new venture in
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: good eating that combines both. Tell me about that.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So, man, maybe twenty nineteen, twenty twenty is when
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: I went plant based. And I'm born and raised in
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: the South, so I've seen a lot of people in
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: my family with diabetes and all these different things, and
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: as I got older, there's no way I would be
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: playing this long in the NBA if not for paying
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: attention to what I put into my body, right, And
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: so a lot of people don't understand your gut is
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: your second brain. So in doing that, I realized that
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: people snack all the time, like people snack, and especially
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: my kids, they snack all the time. And so I
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: started a snack line called Good Eating, And it's basically
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: so that people have healthier options, right, because with anything,
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: you got a budget, right, So I'm not telling everybody
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: to go eat plants and vegetables all day, right, but
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: at the end of the day, when you're snacking, you
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: should have a healthy option, something that tastes good too.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: I love that. And so you really do feel completely
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: different just off of how you changed your diet.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Like I.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: Know people talk about Tom Brady a lot, obviously, Braun
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: all us, but being six feet and getting a chance
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: to play twenty years at a high level, it's tough.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: It's a lot of sacrifice, a lot of time. That's
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: a choice. That's a choice, because I mean night in
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: and night out, now I'm guarding a twenty year old
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: or a twenty one year old or whatnot, and I
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: just refuse to just let someone say that you can't
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: do this because you're this age, so gotta do it.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. Okay, a few more for you
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: that I'll let you go. You obviously are just a
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: wealth of knowledge and information. I could ask you eighty
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: billion questions, but I really want to get your thoughts
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: on this face of the league conversation and what do
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: you think is missing from it?
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: Which part you know?
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: I think obviously you know we hear Lebron talk about
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: how why would you want to sign up or something
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: like this when people are constantly scrutinize you, scrutinizing you.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Then you have the other school of thought of people
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: that feel like, well, another star hasn't necessarily been built up.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: But I'm just curious, like, where is this disconnect between
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: the immense talent that exists in the league versus being
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: the face and why there isn't synergy between the two.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I think.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: It's almost you damned if you do, damn if you don't,
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: And it's got to be about what you want, right,
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: it's interesting now like back when we first came in
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: the league, it was only a few media publications. Now
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: everyone has a voice, right, and that's not a bad thing,
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: but every everyone has a voice.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Everybody that got a phone.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: Can pick up and you can put out, put anything
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: out on Twitter, Instagram, anything. And what's scary though, is
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: it's a lot of misinformation out there too, you know.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: And so I think guys got to decide what they want.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: I think some guys, you know, maybe want to be
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: the face of the league. Some guys may not want to.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: And you can't tell a guy what he has to do, right,
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: she cannot. You cannot do that. But I think it's
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: always interesting because guys pick and choose if they want
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: to respond to the false information. Right, Like it's the
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: podcast right, like it's it's a few hundred of.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Them, a lot of podcasts. Yeah, And what's.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: Interesting about it, And I mean I called a guy
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: that I use a lot of times.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: I usually don't say anything.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: But what's what's great about it is that it means
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: that people are talking about the sport, talking.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: About the game.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: But what's not great about it is that everyone sort
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: of fabricate stories, right, and if you're not a person
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: who always comes to check people on it, then you know,
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: people will get to talking with a microphone and then
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: they be like, oh, they ain't gonna see this. Let
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: me just throw a little extra or something on this story.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: And that's when that's when it ain't cool.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: You stopped in mid story. You said, I called a guy.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: What was the story?
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it was just like some people, I
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: don't even care to address it or whatnot, but you
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: pay attention, like I got homies, I'm in group chats
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: or whatnot. But the part that gets scary, like I said,
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: is the misinformation. Yeah, right, Like people will put misinformation
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: out there and then you never know it's checked.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I will say this. I do believe, like all things,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: media plays a role with everything, and I think that
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: the idea of the media does play a role and
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: people's want to be the face or not. But I
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: also think right now people are a little scared to
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: look bad. And what I mean by that is it's
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: the same reason why some guys I think don't want
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: to do the dunk contest. It's the same reason why
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: we probably won't see one on ones in the NBA
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: sometimes because of this culture that's created, and that's media side,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: that's just the vitriol that exists online. But I also
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: feel like we don't want to skew too far living
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: our lives based on what reaction might be.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: You're exactly right.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: I think we will at some point see one on
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: ones in NBA.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: I actually do.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: And that's the thing about the All Star Game and
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: all of that too, you know what I mean, Like
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: I know they was trying to change it this past
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  Speaker 3: year or what, but the All Star Game, you just
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  Speaker 3: you just gotta want to compete. Yeah, right, you gotta
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  Speaker 3: want to compete. And so it ain't even about the
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  Speaker 3: monetary aspect of it, which there's an upside to that
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  Speaker 3: if you win the game, but you just gotta want
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  Speaker 3: to go out there and compete. And I think what's
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  Speaker 3: interesting too when when it comes to podcasts and all that,
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  Speaker 3: and it's interesting to still be in the locker room, right,
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  Speaker 3: I'm still in the locker room.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So that's the perspective I have that a lot of
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  Speaker 3: people don't have.
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  Speaker 2: What it did to a certain extent.
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  Speaker 3: Is it it made sometimes like I ain't gonna lie.
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  Speaker 3: There's been interactions in the past couple of years where
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  Speaker 3: I sit there and I'd be like, oh, hell, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know who's gonna talk about this on the podcast.
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  Speaker 3: But you know it really it changes the interactions with
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  Speaker 3: your teammates. You know, some some things in the locker
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: room supposed to be sacred.
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  Speaker 1: So sometimes you can look a little to the left
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  Speaker 1: or right if your teammate has their own pod.
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  Speaker 2: No I ain't. I'm saying, like, it ain't. They ain't
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  Speaker 2: got to have their own pods. You can look five
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  Speaker 2: years from now.
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  Speaker 1: Got it, like eventually this story is getting out?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, seriously, And I mean a lot of
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  Speaker 3: my vets, like the OG's and all that stuff. I
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: when I came into the league, they might you know,
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  Speaker 3: a team bond an event here, you know, a team
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  Speaker 3: bonding here event that was just that was.
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  Speaker 2: That for that moment?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean, it wasn't supposed to
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  Speaker 3: be for everybody in they Mama's yeah and we.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and we do need to bring back things being
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  Speaker 1: for the moment.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I missed those storytelling right, You just
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  Speaker 3: gotta I mean, you're a great storyteller. I think everybody
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  Speaker 3: just has to we're all not good at everything.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, you know, have they given me time? And
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  Speaker 1: I think that's a good place to wrap. I got
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: to ask you our final question, which is who has
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: given you the biggest assist off the court?
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  Speaker 3: Who has given me the biggest assist off the court?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that's easy. That's my family.
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  Speaker 1: I love that.
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  Speaker 2: My wife and my great family. Yeah, my wife and
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  Speaker 2: my kids.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I told you I've had five hand surgeries
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  Speaker 3: throughout my NBA career. Got sixteen screws in a metal
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  Speaker 3: plate in this hand, fifteen and a metal screws in
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  Speaker 3: this hand. I had meniscus surgery, got a screw in
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  Speaker 3: my foot, and so my wife has literally had to
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  Speaker 3: pick me up from all those different things. My kids have,
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  Speaker 3: you know, missed vacations because I had to rehab or whatnot.
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  Speaker 3: So they sacrificed a lot. So they've definitely given me
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  Speaker 3: the biggest assistance.
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  Speaker 1: I love that answer. Chris Paul A legend in every
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  Speaker 1: sense of the word. Thank you so much for your time. Chris,