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Talks to Jon Arnold, Luke Sims-Jenkins & Andrew Batty about their choice of The Invisible Enemy (3/4) · A Hamster With a Blunt Penknife - a Doctor Who Commentary podcast

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  Hamster with a blood. Pen knife for doing quicker.
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  Welcome back to Hamster with a Blood Pen Knife and if you've
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  been paying attention in the last couple of episodes, you'll
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  know that I have with me the magnificent Mr. Andrew Batty.
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  Hello. The president of the Antipathy
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  in Steve Lyons Fan Club Lifetime, Mr. Luke Sims Jenkins.
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  I'm the president and the treasurer.
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  Hi. I'm the janitor and.
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  We have the man whose penknife is never blunt, Mr. Joe Ford
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  especially. When I'm watching Michael Shade
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  in this, I'll tell you, I didn't realize it was as kinky as it
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  was, but yeah, there we are. And we have obviously everyone's
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  favorite part of the Doctor Who story.
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  A Part 3, the penultimate episode.
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  Oh, the joys of it. This is the best episode of The
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  Invisible Enemy though. Absolutely.
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  This is basically Robert Ho was put on the same trick he played
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  in Deadly Assassin. Go off, have a bit of
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  psychedelic fun for 25 minutes, and then we can do a story.
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  You know Andrew Cartmel. Yeah.
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  You can do your three-part stories.
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  This is how you do it. Just check a random episode in
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  the middle. Bollocks to it, come on.
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  But you know, just when you think it can't get any better
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  than the Doctor and Leela micro size running around inside the
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  Doctor's head, then for the second-half of the episode
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  they're haunted by Michael sheared through the Doctor's
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  head. I mean, it's just glorious.
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  While they're chasing the prawn. We haven't had the prawn yet.
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  For God's sake guys, I. Mean I.
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  Don't this is how this. Sort of get lost away.
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  Definitely the episode 1 on episode 2 cliffhangers were
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  great. Episode 3 cliffhanger.
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  Well, yeah. We'll definitely.
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  Have a fishy fishy whiff about it.
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  Say episode 4 is about as good as episode 2 though, so it's not
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  that much of A downgrade I'd I'd say in episode 4 it's.
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  All right on a Bally big explosion, doesn't it in episode
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  4? Wonderful.
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  Lila. Lila was right.
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  Why the Bart passes up. Yeah, we'll get there.
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  It's a crock. Fail.
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  Typical Rob. Home story again.
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  Can I say something possibly controversial though?
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  I actually think they do a really good job on the whole of
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  realising this episode. It's a near impossible task.
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  And the bit where they're running up and down all those
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  weird veins and there's a bit where where they're throwing
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  weird things at the camera and having it like CSO behind them.
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  And there's a a long pathway that goes Into Darkness and it's
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  like it doesn't all work. Some of the sets look really
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  cheap, but I really think they have a good stab at this one.
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  Do you think the designer was crying when they got allocated
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  to this story? You've got four different
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  settings to go for. What are this massive
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  psychotactic in the doctor's brain?
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  Have fun. I mean, you know Matt Irvin, I
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  did send you a message about Matt Irvin, but before we came
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  on the call about just how insufferable he is on the
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  documentaries. Nobody knows him, right?
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  Oh, that's handy. Yeah, very arrogant man.
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  But he's always there going, oh, you know, people always blame
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  effects. People always blame effects and
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  they leave effects till the last minute.
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  But I mean, when you see those balls attacking, Michael shared
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  in this episode, you can think why for us say are.
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  We talking the balls or? The ball, it's like the all the.
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  Contact has been made. Those big balls in the prisoner,
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  it's like all of them coming at once.
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  You think that other thing is that is happy that mullets are
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  back or he's like they had a mullet before they were cool.
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  I never gave up on the mullet. He.
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  Still hasn't given up on it because he's had, I'm sure he
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  had put it the Blake sanity with the BFI.
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  No, I do know. I do know he's fairly soon going
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  to be on the the season. I think it's the season 7 one.
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  I'm not sure. One of the upcoming Blu rays in
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  that escape room with poor old Toby Haydog.
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  They keep going with that escape.
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  Room format. God bless.
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  I like how you get to see their real colours, don't you?
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  Peter Purvis was such a cunt when he like Now come along
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  Lisa, get away from there. Let a man do it.
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  He's. Going like.
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  It has to be said, the other the actress you want to watch when
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  you're drunk, isn't it? You need.
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  No more. And O'Brien was the best.
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  She just stood in the middle of the room at one point and went I
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  am so bored. If you watch if you watch season
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  22 behind the sofas, Wendy Padberry's reactions to most of
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  the whole season is. Awesome.
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  Yeah, I love it. Unbelievably though, the behind
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  the sofa for this one and Janice on the sofa this time.
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  Hey, you absolutely loved it. I had the best time with it.
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  It's Janet, for God's sake. They're all going, oh, that was
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  a good story that yeah, yeah, OK.
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  I'm talking to that. We really should be getting on
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  with it, shouldn't we? Oh sorry, I was already pressed
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  play. Have you not done look at?
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  That. There's some skilled hosting
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  right there. I love it.
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  We've done. John, get us on track.
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  Call you back on Yeah. So anyone want the counter
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  scene? I've done it once. 321 go.
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  Do you know? No, I'm not going to say that.
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  Jesus, God, I can't bear your reactions if I say that.
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  Go on, say it. Say it.
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  Well, has anyone ever seen footage of a colonoscopy hang?
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  On it's. Appropriate.
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  It's Tom Baker, so it's actually part of the episode they're
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  going into. That's right, it's very meta.
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  No, the the Jodie Jodie title sequence Rich.
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  My partner whenever we watched it would say it was a
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  colonoscopy. Oh, I'm glad I'm not alone.
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  Thank you, Rich. Oh, here we go.
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  They're being shrunk. I mean, we're going to go down
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  the plughole again. So do you think they've just
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  sort of switched some water down a sink and then superimposed
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  some over it? I.
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  Think that's the way it does. It's a there's dyed water, I
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  would have said. Or if they kind of just use the
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  similar cloudy effect they used for the ship at the start of the
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  episode and just remove the star field and just put the Doctor in
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  Leela in the middle of it. You know what the madness about
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  this story is, right is that obviously horror fan rock wasn't
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  supposed to be horror fan rock. It was supposed to be the
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  vampire mutation as a way of. That's right, state of.
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  Decay so that couldn't be made first anymore.
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  So this bloody script was rushed into production with little pre
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  and Graham Millers must be going.
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  Really, I've got to start with this one and rush it.
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  So I imagine if they had a bit more time they could have ironed
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  out some of the kinks. Oh, here we go down the plug
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  hole again. I remember they wouldn't let
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  them make the vampire mutations because, well, we don't want you
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  taking the piss out of our really good serious upcoming
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  Dracula. Whatever.
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  You've seen it. It's.
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  No, I've heard it's. Terrible.
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  It's awful. It's nowhere near it's gonna
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  stay. On the merry go round.
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  Oh, I love it. There we go.
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  That's very prisoner as well there the Rover effect and.
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  Yeah, Andrew, the studio footage of that is on the DVD.
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  Amazing. And you just see them going
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  round and round. Tom's going, oh, we done.
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  I always figured this is sort of like his waxy ear hole.
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  It's a waxy something hole. Yeah, indeed.
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  Well, he's never listening, so you know.
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  I mean, you know, I don't really love to think about what's under
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  my skin, but it's not very nice, is it?
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  Any of it? So yeah, what's running down the
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  walls there? I feel like the.
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  You know, that sounds like insulation foam.
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  They've just gone like mad with a spray gun of that.
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  Like Gallifrey, the insides of Time Wars are very brown.
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  Oh, that's great. The cat see that's that's a good
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  Eddie where he goes. Oh, the leg wants to move.
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  Boom straight into his leg flying in the air.
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  You know, if I was, if I was, why is?
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  He giving him a deadline? Why isn't he just storm in
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  there? We've got two more episodes of
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  this. He likes being on the telly.
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  He's been on that screen about four times already.
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  Oh yeah. Are you listening to me?
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  This is my last. Your last warning.
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  Oh dear, Oh dear. 122 and a half, three and two and three
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  quarters. You know, I think you're right.
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  Those those studio lights are obviously very hot.
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  That cannot be a comfortable costume that woman is wearing.
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  Just just to chill and eat on a old Blimey.
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  Future joke. Oh no, a bit like the Tereleptil
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  man didn't they said all of this sweat Belchy went Oh my God,
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  that shot of Leila. No, thank you.
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  Good grief. Come on, what?
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  What's wrong? Look at.
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  That short This is outrageous. I'm sorry.
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  I'm not looking if you see one publicity shot of them, I think
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  must be on some way something well on the roof and you could
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  she's virtually hanging out. It's like Jesus, how the hell
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  are they? I mean if they.
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  Do they seem to have paused it? That was a bit exploitative
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  there, that camera angle. Yeah, it gets like that
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  sometimes when when I watch like an old Pertwee or something, I'm
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  just like, come on, man. Like, do we all right, Joe Brown
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  is very, very attractive woman. Do we need that angle?
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  I guess they didn't really think through like the height of
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  canine and. The.
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  Amount of sort of leaning down that's going to be required.
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  That was Tom Baker's complaint all the time, wasn't it?
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  That he had to Crouch down all the time and have conversations
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  with canine? But at least he's wearing
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  fucking cloaks. But Tom Baker's 6 foot whatever
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  to come down to that level, of course sold.
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  I think, I think it's right. I mean, you need to come down to
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  canine like he's the star of the show.
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  Yeah, that's right, dangling bitch.
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  Will you look at this? I love that effect.
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  It's really good. What is it supposed to be like
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  neurons or something? The.
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  Ganglion like that. Of the Ganglion.
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  I didn't realise we had a scientist on Nicole.
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  That's probably, I don't know where I'd like that from
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  GCSCCIN. See, I'd love to.
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  Where's the idea of a scratchman, Tom?
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  Come on. There's a boy who kicked pigs
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  over there. When you when you look at the
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  making us, because these things are on the DVD as well, they're
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  actually making these things and they're obviously going up and
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  down that a bit in the middle and they're sort of colouring in
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  bits on the solid. So I don't know, I just think it
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  looks quite impressive for I. Think it's really good.
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  What's the fact? It's fact.
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  You've got an interest. It's interesting to look at,
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  isn't it? It's not, not just some they've
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  dodge chucked a couple of walls up.
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  It's you've got little bits and pieces unless.
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  We I'm talking about Underworld now.
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  Oh, back on the balls. So which part of the doctor's
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  brain insists that he has to go to the pub all the time?
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  I'm so sorry to say this as well, but they are hairy balls
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  as well, aren't they? If you tuned in for this episode
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  and you hadn't seen the others, you would just be like what the
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  fuck is why are there 2 doctors? Why are they in a brain now?
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  She's in a corridor. Oh, that was your favorite bit,
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  Joe? Oh, that's.
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  Terrible girl, bless it. The poor special.
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  Effects, man. The special effects man, who is
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  not mad over it? I can't remember who it is.
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  It goes well. The first time we did it, it
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  looked pretty good. And then they were like, right,
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  can you glue it back on? We're going again.
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  It's like, are they trying to make us look bad?
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  The kind of the the look of the wall is really nice, though it
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  does look melted. But but also as well look, it
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  looks like you know the layers of the earth.
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  Take it from the rock, from the asteroid.
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  Yeah, yeah. That's quite nice.
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  I guess it hides the fact that it's just a chunk of
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  polystyrene. Oh yeah.
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  And it, it hides K9 quite effectively as well.
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  You know, he's, he can't be seen.
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  Oh look, there's the countdown. Does Leo not notice that the
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  guns doesn't have any? She hasn't even gone in yet.
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  It's like a mixture of Chipnor Muffet, isn't it?
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  Too many ideas from Moffett. Chipnor loves the countdown.
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  I'm sure somebody will sell Sacrifice before the end of the
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  story. Is there anything RTD in here
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  for a full set? Well, actually he just had a
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  very sweet moment with Parsons where he gave him the gun and he
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  said, Parsons, now if I turn, don't hesitate to shoot me
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  because I won't hesitate to shoot you.
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  Thanks man. Very chips and.
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  The lady in the garbage bags, Like what about me?
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  Andrew, if you have one of my cakes tomorrow, I won't hesitate
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  to kill you. And if I have one of yours,
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  don't hesitate to kill me. All right.
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  Oh, that's how it routed and it meant to.
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  I'm so sorry. We're going for afternoon tea.
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  All right. Oh, where are we now?
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  Where? Are we now?
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  In the most advanced computer system ever devised.
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  Did anyone play the terrible 90s Doctor Who computer game where
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  you went into the brain? No.
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  That's the. Kind of doctor or something.
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  Destiny of the Doctor. Oh, with the Anthony Indian is
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  camp links? Yeah, it was.
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  It was impossible and I could never work out how to do any of
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  it and just wandered around until I was killed.
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  I did play the the DOS space one, the Minds of Terror once,
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  but there was nothing exciting going on in that at all.
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  It was just a load of blocks on the screen, you couldn't see
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  anything. When can I get a Doctor Who like
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  video game where I can travel to a couple different points in
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  history and if I die as the Doctor, hey, look, I'm Trout
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  now. Yeah.
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  And you pick up companions of different planets and stuff.
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  And why is it there a game like that?
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  I don't think they've had great luck ever, have they?
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  They have tried a couple of times.
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  They try a load of mobile games as well.
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  There's still 1 going at the minute, but it's one of those
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  that it's it's hot dog, you don't really do anything.
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  It's that normal, You just tap the same thing that's it.
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  Like on the for like 3 months and I was like what am I doing
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  to myself? Three months.
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  Yeah, and it's like once you have to keep doing it every day,
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  you're like, Oh my God, I'm gonna lose my River Song.
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  Card and then one day you woke up yeah yeah, I.
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  Was like I've got repetitive strain injury in my finger.
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  I've wasted hours of my life. What?
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  Oh dear. Oh, this is like a publicity
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  shot they used a lot, isn't it? It was Tom Baker standing in
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  this this sort of. Set here.
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  Yeah. If this was a missing adventure
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  right here in his brain, you'd see.
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  It being attacked by hairy balls.
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  Oh God. Leila.
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  Oh my God. Watch out for the hairy
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  phagocytes. Slap them in the balls.
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  Yeah, she's. Got a knife?
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  She's got a fucking knife. Stab him.
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  Yeah. Oh, wouldn't that be a great
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  game in the Doctor Who adventure room?
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  You know, popping out the ball? Beware for those hairy
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  phagocytes. They may come at you at any
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  time. Is that what they're really
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  called? I haven't.
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  No, they are in Time Lord Physiology.
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  I don't know if it's like human, but you can call them anything I
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  guess because it's the timeline. It might be another Cadley Lee,
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  you know. No, I think they are called
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  that. I think that's part of the
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  immune. There's a nice shot of you.
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  Really paid attention inside, didn't you?
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  Yeah, type of cell within the body, capable of engulfing and
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  absorbing bacteria and other small cells and particles.
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  It's definitely capable of. You don't get intelligent
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  discourse on this podcast. Yeah, Pepper J Baker, where's
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  your MB modem's name? He'd always has that like Dander
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  action man pose, but he's like a villain and he's holding up his
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  blaster and he's he's amazing. Oh no, he's.
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  Been possessed. No, his tongue's lulling out
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  too, because like. Does he say contact has been
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  made? Yes.
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  How does that work? He's amazing.
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  It's not a brain. Do you remember an Armageddon
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  factor when he has to pretend to be evil and goes to the shadow
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  and goes the doctor has been killed.
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  Oh really? We'll bang that one.
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  There's a knife coming out again.
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  Getting flashbacks of Thomas Bennett Community College,
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  sorry. Only companion series say hey
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  Doctor, should I talk to this person for information?
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  Oh, that's amazing. Thomas Bennett versus Hazel Wig.
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  There was a night fire night. I'm not even joking.
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  It's really affecting their eyes now.
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  Origin story. It was, well, bad.
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  My makeup is so bad now it's covering their eyeballs almost.
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  It's it's like. Yeah.
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  I love it how they gave some K9 the space turn before it came
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  round. So does she faint there, or does
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  she just pretend to faint? What happened?
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  I think K9 shot her in the head, but a little bit too late, so
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  she'd sort of fallen on the floor before they just.
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  Get backed. But then why does K9 headbot the
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  Wall I? Think it went into regeneration
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  mode or something. Yeah, it's him fighting the
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  fighting off the infection. Please take it as the highest
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  compliment you know. If inside of your brains look
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  like this, I'd love to explore it one day.
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  You know, if I could ever be miniaturized.
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  Are you talking about getting inside man again here, Joe?
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  Well, just their brains, you know, it looks like a lot of
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  fun. I I do like the fact that it's
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  got a bit of depth to it as well.
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  There's like one bit in front of another bit in front.
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  Oh yeah, this. I love the the thing just going
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  off into nothing. It's a bit.
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  Like makes. Me laugh like Tina Jones.
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  Yeah, I love that between logic and imagination, it's just a
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  gorgeous line. Well, can we all do it for a
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  second? Imagine the Doctor going on his
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  scarf. Oh yeah, Indy swings by on his
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  whip and he and he goes to pass it along.
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  The doctor's already swinging off in his scarf.
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  Where's that crossover mash up? Paul Mars?
• 19:04
  Give me that. Yeah, Indiana Guild is going by
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  on a in a mining cart, isn't he? He's just 100 miles an hour.
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  In the doctor's brain. We're not sure why he's there,
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  but yeah, one of his adventures took him.
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  There, Green Lady's been shoved in the cupboard.
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  I think that may be a harassment.
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  We're just going to put you in the shrink cupboard.
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  The cloning cupboard lady. Poor Parsons.
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  Yeah, he barely reacts. Professor Marius.
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  Oh. Well, at least he got shot the
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  first before he fell down, you know?
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  I mean, I think that's very cute.
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  I mean, not that you threw her in the cupboard, but that he
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  tried to save her life. A terrible, terrible hiding.
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  Well, I mean, there's a huge window.
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  It's quite. By the way.
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  Laura or something? I like how they shoot Parsons
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  when they could have just contacted him but.
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  Watch this as she creeps out the room in that green costume.
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  She's just hiding there in the background garbage.
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  Bag I can't remember creeping out music like.
• 20:09
  Andrew Marius below the belt. I saw that.
• 20:11
  Look at this. Look where his hand is.
• 20:15
  You're right, she does. Bloody Snake snuck out and they
• 20:17
  didn't even go. Look where K9's proof's going.
• 20:20
  Oh God, is he leaning forward? Is.
• 20:22
  He he's he's got little bits in the in the back to go up I.
• 20:26
  Think someone's just giving him a shove.
• 20:28
  K9 knows what he's doing. We don't.
• 20:30
  Need to watch Doctor Screw do we we?
• 20:32
  Just need to know. Invisible enemy.
• 20:35
  Oh, no, Look that cat. I'm sorry.
• 20:38
  Now I think it is not on. I'm sorry.
• 20:40
  That camera's right up her skirt.
• 20:43
  I could have brightened things up a bit there.
• 20:46
  OK, Oh, I think this woman, you know, I don't, what's her name,
• 20:49
  technician #4 she might be the hero of the piece, actually.
• 20:54
  Is she like the only other woman in this episode as well?
• 20:57
  Was the lady doing the wonderful?
• 20:59
  Oh yeah, the receptionist lady. Oh, OK, right.
• 21:02
  We did like it. Is it the same woman?
• 21:04
  Well, it was scripted by Robert Holmes, so you know.
• 21:08
  Two, that's two women in the scene together, right?
• 21:11
  That's a goddamn miracle. So hang on, are they are they
• 21:14
  talking about Matt? Yeah, they talk about Mendez.
• 21:16
  So don't pass the battle test or anything, damn it.
• 21:19
  God damn it, no. But by the time you get to
• 21:21
  Stones of Bludgeon over Romana, Vivian Faye and Amelia Rumford
• 21:25
  having bacon, sour or no. Sausage sausages.
• 21:28
  Yeah. Lovely.
• 21:30
  I love a sausage sandwich. Yeah, and I, I, I always forget
• 21:37
  how big Tom's side sideburns were.
• 21:39
  He's rocking them. Oh, it's proper 70s.
• 21:42
  We love it when they get a win machine on them.
• 21:45
  Yeah, strange, strange sort of question to ask you chaps.
• 21:48
  Paul Marius with the eye makeup, One of the eyelashes is a bit
• 21:50
  loose and it's fucking with his eye bin there.
• 21:54
  When you have sausage sandwiches, do you have sauce in
• 21:57
  it? Ketchup.
• 21:58
  Ketchup, OH. Good, good.
• 22:00
  Luke goes well with a bit of onion as well.
• 22:02
  Oh cool. Smelly Bright won't be snogging
• 22:05
  you later. Oh, look, here comes low now.
• 22:09
  He doesn't know that those phagocytes are everywhere
• 22:12
  though, does he? It sounds so bad, doesn't it?
• 22:18
  There's a lot of balls in these scenes coming.
• 22:21
  Up. I mean, I imagine, just imagine,
• 22:23
  like Andrew said, you just switched on at the bit where
• 22:25
  he's attacked by the balls. I mean, he's going, oh, isn't he
• 22:30
  like you'd be like, is this a new version of Funhouse that I'm
• 22:35
  not aware of? I'm kind of what is this kind of
• 22:39
  where fan cringe started? It's because you've gone from
• 22:41
  that big serious goth and to the point where the kids might take
• 22:46
  the piss at you on Monday morning for watching something
• 22:49
  with a load of balls. But like I forgot it could be
• 22:51
  fun sometimes. Do you?
• 22:53
  Think we get to a point where who cares?
• 22:56
  Like you know what I'll for me for now.
• 22:58
  So nothing really embarrasses me anymore.
• 22:59
  Look at the state of me. So like watching this, don't
• 23:02
  embarrass me if someone walked in whilst I was watching so I
• 23:04
  was going well if you're not enjoying it more for you.
• 23:08
  No, I'm not embarrassed anymore. I've watched Time Lash for
• 23:10
  charity and she didn't hate it. In fact, you watched.
• 23:13
  Time lash for charity? How much did you earn?
• 23:15
  With charity. Charity.
• 23:19
  Yeah. I thought this is either going
• 23:21
  to be a disaster or really good but it turns out like the the
• 23:24
  part of her that likes cheesy B movies had an absolute blast
• 23:28
  watching Time Lash so. You know, people tend to do
• 23:30
  endurance things for charity, so that wasn't unreasonable for me
• 23:33
  to ask that, you know? We've got the Prawny Claw.
• 23:37
  Here we go. Yes.
• 23:39
  I mean, what can 1 say? It's very mobile, isn't it?
• 23:46
  Yeah. Oh, does anyone have that flaw
• 23:48
  in the DVD? Oh.
• 23:51
  A bit David Lynch. All right, all.
• 23:55
  Right. Yeah.
• 23:57
  This weird. It's a bit like the the tree
• 24:01
  with the weird. Shape of the arm diligence.
• 24:06
  Yeah, I'm hearing some great swarm impressions here.
• 24:11
  Just a 5 multiplied to perpetuate the species.
• 24:16
  Yeah, I love this story. Thank you.
• 24:18
  Revenge of the Swarm, the sequel.
• 24:20
  You're hired. He's got sort of weird bugly
• 24:25
  eyes as well, wasn't he? Look, say that now, Joe, but you
• 24:28
  know that job's going to fucking Nicholas Briggs.
• 24:31
  Yeah, it's all right. Forgive me.
• 24:35
  Yeah, poor Tom though. I mean trying to act against
• 24:38
  this flailing limb. Yeah.
• 24:41
  Well, at least he didn't pull a creature from the pit.
• 24:43
  Let's be grateful. I mean, it would have been.
• 24:45
  Better. It's so bad.
• 24:46
  It's the the sort of. At least there's a chlorine.
• 24:51
  That it's attached to. It it's not a bad idea to have
• 24:54
  that kind of virus as a mod for it, just as a logical model,
• 24:58
  but. Wouldn't it have been funny if.
• 25:01
  He tried to shake him some monster at the end, wouldn't
• 25:03
  that? Be funny seems.
• 25:06
  Empty seems empty. Tom's walking in, just straight
• 25:08
  away he puts. His mouth on.
• 25:11
  It or something? No, let's not go.
• 25:15
  There, comfort's balls, let's face it.
• 25:17
  Like even that look, they're shooting that from above.
• 25:19
  It's it's a reasonably big say. They've dressed it.
• 25:23
  There's some effort. It's not all working, but there
• 25:25
  is some effort. I'm going to see the positives.
• 25:30
  I mean, when the big prone comes out, that's something else.
• 25:33
  Can you imagine when John Scott Martin was presented with that
• 25:38
  costume and was told, right here we go, get ready?
• 25:42
  Get into this lump of shit with a claw on it.
• 25:46
  Welcome to the BBC I. Didn't even go to.
• 25:52
  Tony a video. Probably.
• 25:55
  You don't need me to tell you this, but you know he's doing
• 25:57
  the claws, right? Yeah.
• 25:59
  And there's strings, so the legs go at the same time.
• 26:02
  It's so funny, isn't? It.
• 26:04
  Oh my God, they have to wheel him around.
• 26:07
  Yeah, it's too busy this morning.
• 26:09
  Leela, watch this, though she does stab him in the gut.
• 26:12
  Yeah, look, watch straight in the gut.
• 26:15
  It's unbelievable. Oh, my dear.
• 26:17
  She's not really. Oh no.
• 26:22
  And here come the balls. Here.
• 26:26
  Come the balls. Here come the balls.
• 26:28
  Here come the balls. I like that that's a.
• 26:32
  Very doctor's hair. Time ending with the two
• 26:36
  masters, except the stung with the.
• 26:39
  He must have been pissing himself.
• 26:42
  Laughing. Oh, dude, I got to roll around
• 26:46
  with Louise Jameson and Balls. It was amazing.
• 26:49
  Yeah. Aye, aye, even I've not seen
• 26:53
  that many balls. Good grief, Jesus.
• 26:57
  I've heard back that sauna joke. Come on.
• 26:58
  Oh. Yeah, no, let's not do.
• 27:00
  That now up you have fallen for my stratagem I'm.
• 27:07
  Sure, I could go that I. Love, I love a glove to
• 27:09
  masterminding. It.
• 27:12
  Oh, is everyone dead now? Yeah, the clones are all gone.
• 27:16
  That's it. Oh.
• 27:17
  No, the tear duct. A tear duct.
• 27:19
  A tear duct. A tear duct.
• 27:21
  A tear duct. Is that just the lump of Leela's
• 27:23
  hair? Yes.
• 27:25
  But this is important. This is an important that point.
• 27:28
  Yes, that's right. And.
• 27:31
  A knife Knife. They cloned the knife as well.
• 27:33
  That's just pretty nice. That's some advanced shit.
• 27:37
  It's a year 5000. Everything can be cloned.
• 27:39
  All right. Get over it.
• 27:40
  Every. Like OK, oh the problem looks
• 27:42
  shit, let's be honest, but. So the knife.
• 27:44
  So why are you getting out? I just think it's so brilliant.
• 27:46
  You think it's the Doctor coming out, right?
• 27:48
  Not the problem. Yeah, I like though, that the
• 27:51
  knife and the and the bit of hair stays, even though the
• 27:53
  clone's supposed to completely like just be destroyed after 10
• 27:56
  minutes, 55 seconds or something like that.
• 27:59
  But who cares? Did you guys have the defective
• 28:01
  DVD where the series free the episode free one car at the tear
• 28:06
  dug moment or was it just me? Oh no.
• 28:10
  Oh. My God, no, don't do this.
• 28:14
  Don't. Show it dancing.
• 28:17
  To what's it dancing to? Hey, Macarena, no Bush city
• 28:24
  limit. Boom boom, boom boom.
• 28:27
  Is this a good time to mention that I'm allergic to
• 28:30
  crustaceans? At the car.
• 28:33
  Though this would be my ultimate nemesis.
• 28:39
  I had AI, had a a seafood paella and I was off work for a month.
• 28:46
  I had such a terrible reaction to the Bruins.
• 28:50
  Pat Gorman gets called a medic. Jesus, that's just.
• 28:53
  Kids Medic. One or two.
• 28:55
  Both of the women are credited as nurses.
• 28:58
  Like, yeah. Ah Tony Harding, that was the
• 29:02
  special effects man name I couldn't remember.
• 29:05
  Did someone say JNT was involved in this as well?
• 29:07
  Yeah, he's got a credit. It comes up at some point.
• 29:10
  I don't know if he was like flawed.
• 29:11
  Be a production system. No wonder he likes Tata scene so
• 29:15
  much. That was the norm when he
• 29:17
  started, I guess. I'm going to say this story
• 29:20
  really isn't running out of steam, is it?
• 29:22
  Like, come on. Oh.
• 29:23
  No, you're not going to get forward.
• 29:26
  It's kind of that ghost event space bug that we had.
• 29:29
  It might not be good, but you're going to have a good time with
• 29:33
  it one way or another. But you know, I've got to
• 29:36
  confess to you all. I have since listened to The
• 29:38
  Ghost of End Space again since we recorded our episode and I
• 29:43
  enjoyed it even more that time. What have we done to you?
• 29:47
  We've broken you. I.
• 29:48
  Hope we didn't get you fired. Synchronicity that out?
• 29:54
  Well, John, you've got to end this one.
• 29:57
  Well, join us, Join us next time to see if Andrew can complete 4
• 30:00
  episodes of Talking Complete Balls.
• 30:06
  It has been a theme, don't you think?
• 30:08
  It's it's been recurrent, but until then we'll cut it there.