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Laura Perry Smalts: Consequences Of Decades Of Trans Ideology · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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  Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
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  And right now, I just want to go to edensredemption.org and tell you about today's guest, Laura Perry
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  Smaltz.
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  We've had her on before, such a blessing to have her back.
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  Sister, good to see you.
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  Thanks for your time today.
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  Oh, thank you so much for having me on.
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  It's such a pleasure to be here.
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  Thanks, Laura.
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  It's great to connect to Oklahoma.
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  Now, we're excited to have you in Green Bay in, I don't know, how many weeks, six weeks
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  or something, whatever it is.
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  It's crazy.
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  Melissa and Closer saw our audience is going to be able to see you in Green Bay speaking
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  out the world view matters conference.
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  But before we dive into today's topic, get an update from you on just what's going on
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  in our country and around the world, the craziness, the demonic agendas, particularly when it comes
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  to transgendarism and that ideology, I want you to share so people can pray for you about
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  your recent, it's not recent.
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  This is an ongoing health battle that you've had and we've been talking about what's
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  frustrating sometimes is you can be feeling better and then all of a sudden it gets
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  the inconsistency can be just as stressful when you go from bad, good, bad.
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  So tell our audience how they can pray for you and what you've been going through, please.
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  Yeah, I've been going through some pretty severe neurological problems with my brain.
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  We haven't figured it all out.
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  I mentioned last time, I think I mentioned that I'm dealing with some inflammation, but I
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  don't think that's the entire problem.
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  I'm going to an upper cervical doctor right now, this doing some treatments to help a
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  little, but he says that I have just had all kinds of head trauma and I didn't realize
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  how many head injuries I'd had in my life until I started.
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  He asked me to start listing them and I think that may be part of it.
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  Part of it could be, I mean testosterone on girls, I know from experience with other
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  girls from there's not a lot of long-term studies, but I know that I was having cognitive
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  issues during those years.
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  Did that affect me?
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  I don't know.
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  COVID.
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  I mean, there could be so many different things and we thought of so many different angles
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  that we just can't figure this out and we've just been praying and I really feel like
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  the woman with the issue of blood that's been all her living on doctors.
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  We just need wisdom from the Lord I get, you know, suggestions from well-meaning people
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  all the time.
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  Trust me, my parents have spent thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars on
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  every kind of therapy and doctors on every end of the spectrum and we need wisdom from
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  the Lord.
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  So as much as I appreciate well-meaning suggestions, I really just want people's prayers.
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  We need wisdom from the Lord.
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  This is what I want you to do.
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  But also in that, like God has taught me so much through this experience, I've learned
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  so much compassion and understanding for people with brain problems.
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  I've learned, you know, because I didn't have a lot of grace for people, didn't realize
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  that I didn't.
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  But before it was like, if you were anxious or depressed or said, well, you just need
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  to read your Bible more, you just need to pray more and sometimes there's real things
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  going on.
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  And I think it's a combination of warfare and real physical problems.
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  And so I just need wisdom from the Lord, but also in that I'm learning just to rely
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  on the Lord and relying on him to be my strength when I just have none in those days.
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  Like, God, I can't do this.
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  But seeing God strengthen me and be able to get up and talk in front of a crowd when
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  I feel like I can barely put one foot in front of the other is amazing.
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  And I know it's just the Lord.
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  I remember, I don't know if we did talk about that on a previous podcast or in an email
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  exchange that when you get to the speaking engagement, he gives you the strength to do
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  it, but you could be feeling horrible up to that point.
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  It really is amazing.
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  And as you shared that scripture that Paul, Paul's response from God, my grace is sufficient
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  from you actually God responding to Paul.
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  My grace is sufficient for you.
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  And I go to that one often because as you know, with Rosanna, what we went through a couple
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  of years ago, all kinds of therapies and remedies and detoxes and so many different things
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  we tried.
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  And a lot of money.
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  And then I got to the point where I'm going, Lord, I don't want to do this out of a lack
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  of faith because I know you're the ultimate physician and you might be allowing this.
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  But I believe that she can be healed and you can heal her.
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  So yeah.
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  So please, friends, pray for wisdom for Laura.
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  And also for myself, I'll just say, I need it to care for my wife in the best way I can.
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  And sometimes it's really hard, but God knows he's in this and thank God.
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  This is all temporary, right, Laura?
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  And for wisdom for my husband as well, I mean, you can relate to him, I'm sure.
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  Yeah, my husband Perry, you know, he goes through a lot and he's, he's, it's been amazing
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  though to see such unconditional love and he's so many, he's taught me so much about
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  the love of the Lord.
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  But I know it gets weary at times because there's times that, I mean, I'm, you, it's hard
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  to explain to people what's really going on.
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  Sometimes my brain really doesn't function very well.
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  And I know that it's, it's tough, but, but God is still, you know, God is still good
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  no matter what happens.
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  He's still good.
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  He still uses us.
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  And we pray that that would continue that he will continue to use you.
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  I'm going to give Laura's websites before we talk about some stories today, just what's
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  going on in our culture and just get her, her take on where she sees the whole battle
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  between male and female in the transgender ideology going in America, at least, Edens
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  Redemption.org, Edens, Edens Redemption.org, she is also on Facebook.
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  You can do a search for Edens Redemption on Facebook and pull up her Facebook page.
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  And I want to make sure, mention her book that we talked to her many times about transgender
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  to transformed, transgender to transformed.
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  So people can get that on Amazon or through your website, Laura.
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  Yes.
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  Well, actually, we just, our website is in the process of getting a lot of products on
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  there.
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  We do have some merchandise available, which I'm getting right now.
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  So yours is the first audience, but I don't have the books up yet.
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  So Amazon, but hopefully the books will be available there soon.
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  Okay.
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  Well, I just clicked on shop at Edens Redemption.
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  And look at that.
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  There's shirts.
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  Okay.
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  Great.
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  Wow.
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  And my wife loves butterflies, especially the blue.
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  She put a blue butterfly on one of her CD covers, 20 years ago, that just looks just like
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  that same one.
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  Anyway, I'm off topic already.
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  Okay.
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  Focus, David.
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  Focus, focus.
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  So let's talk about an article over at harbingersdaily.com.
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  And this was from Decision Magazine just over a month ago, but I thought this is something
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  I can talk with you about.
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  It's titled Disfigured for Life in a landmark ruling detransitioner wins medical malpractice
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  case.
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  Laura, this, I hope this sets some sort of precedent if that could happen, but just share
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  your overall thoughts on this.
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  And then I'll read a little bit more to give the audience an idea of what the story is
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  about and who it's about.
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  Yeah.
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  I'm thankful because these doctors, you know, I'm sure there's a spectrum.
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  Of motivations.
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  I'm sure some genuinely think they're helping people, but I think a lot of them are in
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  it for the money.
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  But regardless of what they think, this is going to make them think twice.
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  You know, I know that doctors have a certain amount of malpractice insurance, but I've already
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  heard there are a lot of doctors that are going to stop doing these procedures because
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  they're afraid of these lawsuits.
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  And this was massive, but it's also a huge.
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  It brings to the forefront even more importantly than that it put in mainstream media that people
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  really do regret this to the point that it is considered malpractice.
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  And I can't remember in this specific case, but many of these girls that I have heard
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  who have had the breasts removed and things like that.
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  And they say, why did somebody let me, why did a doctor allow this, why did a doctor
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  do this to me when I was 14, 15 years old?
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  It's crazy and it should absolutely be malpractice.
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  And so I'm grateful that these guys are being stopped.
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  It's one thing as an adult and I still think that doctors should not be performing voluntary
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  removal of tissue that is healthy, you know, but that's another thing.
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  But if people want to do that as an adult, you know, I can't stop them legally.
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  But for our children, for Myers, they absolutely need to be stopped.
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  So I'm incredibly grateful for this ruling.
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  It's just, when you hear this and this is a good outcome, but it's just how far have
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  we fallen?
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  It's just how far away from common sense, but also brings up Laura, I think the spiritual
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  dynamic, the warfare involved.
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  This is demonic to want to destroy the Amago Day, the image of God in mankind, human beings
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  who are made in God's image, not it now, not everybody's a child of God if you want
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  to get into theology, but we were all created in God's image.
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  In fact, you were in that documentary that AFA put out in his image.
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  So in this case, this person's lawyers argued that her psychologist, who was named in
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  the article, was putting the idea in Fox's head that she needed gender transition surgery.
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  So I think you shared in the past, you went to people for advice or counsel.
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  You were probably given you the green light.
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  Am I wrong in suggesting that?
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  Well, it was a little bit different.
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  I, back then, we were kind of at this place where transgenderism was beginning to gain
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  a little more ground, but it wasn't mainstream culture.
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  But I was not interested in therapy at all at the time.
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  I, what I didn't want counseling, I didn't want to match the mind to the body.
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  I felt this way.
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  I didn't like being a girl.
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  I didn't want to be a woman and I didn't realize it at the time.
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  But I had so much trauma and pain as a woman that I wanted to be a man.
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  And I really convinced myself that that's who I was, that I was born that way.
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  I always felt that way since childhood.
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  But really the truth is that I hated being a woman.
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  So when I went to this therapist, it was only so I could get this diagnosis.
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  And then I could start on the hormones.
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  But in the, and I was required to go to three sessions.
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  And in the third session, I'll never forget, like, I was just not paying attention
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  really to the conversation.
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  I'm just trying to fulfill this requirement.
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  And she put down her notebook and looked over her glasses.
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  She looked right in my eyes and it's like she just stopped for a minute and she said,
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  wow, you really have issues with your mom.
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  And I was stunned.
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  I was like, well, wait a minute, how do we get from talking about me being a man
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  to talking about my mother?
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  And again, I've shared in many podcasts and videos that I don't blame my mom at all.
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  I have a, I, children do not have the same perspective that their parents do.
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  I couldn't understand all the stress she was under in a whole host of other things.
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  I've shared in other videos.
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  But at that time in my life, I did blame her for a lot.
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  I was very angry at her.
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  And so that wasn't the, that wasn't what caused my transgenderism.
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  But it's where some of those early lies from the enemy begin to come in.
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  And rejection of femininity.
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  But it built on so many other things over my life.
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  I had so much trauma from men and from my own sexual sin.
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  But that was at least part of it.
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  And when she hit on that, I got very angry.
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  I said, I'm not here to talk about my mom.
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  I blew up at her.
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  And she said, so you're just here for the stagnosis?
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  I said, yes, that's all I'm here for.
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  And she said, okay.
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  And she just gave me what I wanted.
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  And I think she realized that I had deep emotional issues.
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  But instead of being willing to deal with it,
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  she just gave me this diagnosis I wanted.
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  And that might have seemed kind at the time to announce that her.
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  But nine years later, and while two surgeries,
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  I had a hysterectomy and the ovaries removed, I had my breast removed.
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  All of that later, and years of hormones and destroying my body,
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  and losing nine years of my life, for what?
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  So that you wouldn't upset me?
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  And that makes me really mad.
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  And I actually wrote her a letter.
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  I never heard back from her, but I wrote her a letter later.
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  I was very kind, but I just said, I just want you to know this was not true.
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  And I know you were doing your best,
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  but people that are struggling with this generally have deep emotional issues
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  that need dealt with.
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  So I never heard back.
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  Yeah, I'm glad you mentioned that because I want to go back to this article briefly.
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  By the way, this person was awarded $2 million.
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  Yeah.
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  And $400,000 of that was for future medical expenses.
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  But anyway, so how common do you think this is then, Laura?
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  It says, as a teen, this young girl,
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  Varian, lived with depression, anxiety, anorexia, social phobia,
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  and body image issues.
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  And so do you think, not only is that common today,
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  but do you think counselors or those that are trying to push transgendrum
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  think, well, maybe this is the easy solution,
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  or they want to direct them that way.
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  It's wrong, but do you think that's what's happening a lot?
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  Yeah, when I hear that, sometimes I want to go like ding, ding, ding, ding,
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  like that is, it's so common that I think in almost every kid,
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  in fact, the number one demographic IC of transgenders
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  is 14 to 15 year old girls.
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  Used to be a little bit different.
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  It used to be more men, but what we currently see in this culture,
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  and I think so much of it is because that's right around the age of puberty
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  for girls, or maybe a little bit after,
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  but they're in that age where not only are they going through puberty and body
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  changes, but now boys are beginning to see them different.
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  They're beginning to being objectified.
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  They're being treated like sexual objects.
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  Their body becomes something that's vulnerable and unsafe and uncomfortable
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  because of all the things they're going through,
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  but also how they're being treated.
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  They're being compared to other girls.
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  And I remember I struggled with my health on my life,
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  but I have always struggled with my weight just up and down like a rollercoaster,
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  and if I would work really, really hard, and I would eat healthy,
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  and I would exercise a ton, and then I would lose weight,
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  but then I would get burned out.
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  My adrenals and thyroid would start having problems.
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  And so it's just been this yo-yo, but every time that I was,
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  if I could get thin, then I would have lots of attention from guys.
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  And then as soon as I'd start getting away again,
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  they wouldn't give me the time of day.
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  And I just remember this trauma of feeling like the only worth of value
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  that I had to give anyone was in what I looked like.
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  And I was always comparing myself to other girls.
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  And that's what started my anger at God as well.
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  Because if God made me, then why did God made me like this
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  and make me this girl that has all these problems?
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  But I think for a lot of girls, there are so many body issues.
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  But here's one thing the Lord reminded me.
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  What was in the Garden of Eden, shame of the body
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  was the very first response to sin, or the very first,
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  maybe, consequence of sin.
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  Before they're kicked out of the garden,
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  before God pronounces the curse,
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  there's an immediate shame of the body,
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  and they realize they are naked.
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  And their instinct was to cover up the parts that are given to a husband
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  or a wife that connect, the intimate parts.
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  The parts that are intended to be such an incredible gift
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  to a husband or wife now became a source of shame.
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  Wow.
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  That's brilliant.
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  That point right there.
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  Just think about that, friends.
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  Go back to Genesis.
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  Back to Genesis.
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  So this is what young people are dealing with.
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  So can you give us the year?
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  I don't want to date yourself or anything.
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  But the year that you were in that counselor's office,
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  what year was that?
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  Was that 90s, 2000s?
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  No, it was 2007.
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  I don't know, it was 2005.
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  2007.
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  So when did the movie, was it boys don't cry or something like that?
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  Is that the right movie?
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  When did that come out?
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  I don't remember when it came out.
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  I saw it after it had already been released.
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  And I think it may have come out in the 90s.
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  I'm not 100% sure.
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  I know that Hillary Swank was a teenager.
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  She played the girl that was living for boy.
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  Sad story.
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  But when I saw it, Tina Branden, Branden, Tina.
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  Sad story.
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  But the reason I asked that is so you started yours around 2007.
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  Here we are almost 20 years later, almost.
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  And think about the massive bombardment with this propaganda, this ideology from Hollywood,
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  from social media, from the media, from at least most in the Democrat party, from corporations.
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  And you're thinking, wow, kids cannot get away from this, justifying what is called
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  good now, but evil is called good, good is called evil.
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  Can you speak to that and what kids are dealing with now even more than when you were growing
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  up?
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  Yeah, I remember the day that I felt like I actually think there was something like a
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  spiritual gate was opened because this is always, I mean, this is an ancient issue.
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  You can find this an ancient paganism and God warns not only were we not to indulge
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  in pagan practices, but we're not even to go and observe what the pagans do.
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  And there were, so I have whole teachings on that, but anyway, but it wasn't prominent
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  in our modern society until, you know, starting to gain a little more ground late 90s, early
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  2000s.
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  But when Bruce Jenner came out as transgender and was on the cover of that magazine, it literally
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  was like a floodgate open and you are, I began to see almost overnight, this snowball
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  effect.
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  And this is what I tell people all the time, we like to believe that our sin only affects
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  ourselves.
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  I hear that from so many young people who live in LGBT lifestyles, especially those that
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  were raised in church and they'll say, well, my sin only affects myself and it doesn't
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  matter what I do.
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  I'm not hurting anybody, but that's not true.
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  And I've heard many, many stories of people that were influenced by friends and family
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  members into these lifestyles.
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  So I'm glad you brought up Caitlin Jenner and I can call him Caitlin because he legally
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  changed his name to Caitlin, but you know what I'm doing purposefully.
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  I'm calling him a he because that's how God created him.
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  But he is Caitlin, respectfully, someone changes their name, I'll call them whatever name
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  they want to be called if it's legal.
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  But what's astounding to me, Laura, is the pronoun battle, this pronoun, demanding to
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  be called a certain pronoun and then some people are getting fired for using the wrong
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  pronouns and we're just gotten into this just crazy delusion of culture.
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  But I want to go back, that was April 2015 when he came out, Vanity Fair I think was
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  the magazine.
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  So put him on the cover, the former decathlon winner in the US Olympics on the, he's on
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  the cover of Wheaties anyway.
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  But 2008, I may be wrong within a couple of years.
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  But Oprah Winfrey did a show with the so-called first pregnant man.
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  First pregnant man.
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  Was it Thomas Beatty or something like that?
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  So first pregnant, it was a woman that had a beard or a goatee and hair on her face and
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  she was pregnant and Oprah was setting the bar for happiness.
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  Here's the delusion, call this person a man and he's pregnant and I'm thinking, okay.
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  And then of course, what did the media do?
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  They picked up the headline, hey, first pregnant man.
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  So the delusion started about, I don't know, eight years, roughly eight to ten years
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  or whatever before Bruce came out and then it just exploded.
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  But to what kids are dealing with today, just share some more thoughts on that and I've
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  got, you know, actually, I want to go to this real quick before run out of time.
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  The rise of transgender suicide is at 40% now.
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  And the number of trans homicides has doubled.
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  So this is just a consequence of the rotten fruit that we've been seeing that these demonic
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  agendas.
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  Let's talk about that, Laura, your thoughts first, suicide.
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  What we're doing is not working or what we've been doing as a culture as a country is
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  not working.
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  Go ahead and share your thoughts.
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  Yeah.
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  And there needs to be more studies on it, but their studies have shown that transgender people
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  are far more likely to attempt to commit suicide or think about suicide.
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  But the therapies and the medications and surgeries, none of this helps.
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  And in fact, a lot of times it gets worse after that.
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  And I can tell you as someone when you put all your eggs in this basket and you are totally
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  convinced of this and you spend your entire every waking moment thinking about making this
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  real.
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  And then you realize it's not real.
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  That's incredibly devastating.
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  And so I was more suicidal after surgeries.
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  And you know, people can say, oh, it's because their family is not affirming or whatever.
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  And I don't know of any but like, especially when you're in your 20s, I didn't care that
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  much what my parents thought to be honest.
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  I knew they loved me.
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  But you can find I had so many people around me affirming me and telling me this was wonderful
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  and celebrating me.
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  Yeah.
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  It was not for lack of affirmation.
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  But I also think there's, this is a demonic move of the enemy.
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  Anything about when the children of Judah were taken captive, what is the first thing that
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  they did to them?
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  Do you remember the change their name?
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  Change their name.
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  Give them a Babylonian name and made them right.
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  That's right.
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  That is what the enemy is doing.
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  And I think that's exactly this agenda.
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  He wants to stop production of life.
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  He hates human life.
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  So if he can't get them through abortion, let's just cut them off even before this.
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  They never have any kids.
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  And they have no chance to.
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  It not only marves the image of God, but this is really about destroying life anyway that
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  he can.
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  I'm glad you brought that up.
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  It's so it's not just the transgender ideology.
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  It's the population control cult that thinks human beings are the problem with all the
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  climate change and all the stuff in the world.
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  So there's more variables to come into this, but nonetheless, it is demonic.
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  I just want to quote this one article I found says, people who transition are killing
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  former loved ones, spouses, children, or random people at unprecedented rates.
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  We've seen this since the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
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  We've seen it at churches and schools in the last couple of years.
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  The media will not talk about this.
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  LGBTQ plus groups suggest the reason for the surge in homicides or suicides is due to
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  lack of acceptance.
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  But you say, and many transgender individuals will say that they get acceptance from friends
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  or family or peers, but you've got to find someone to blame, right?
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  Go ahead.
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  Go ahead, Laura.
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  Yeah.
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  There's so much anger and the reason that people go into transgenderism and the first
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  place.
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  There could be all these surface reasons, you know, hundreds or, you know, many different
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  reasons.
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  But underneath all of that, really, I think the root of it is pride and then but self hatred
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  at the same time.
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  Like, I feel like I should be this amazing person that everybody loves and the world celebrates.
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  But I hate myself.
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  I hate my, the way I look, I hate my body, you know, whatever it is.
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  And there is this desperation to recreate yourself and to somebody that everybody thinks
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  is a hero.
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  And they're, it breeds this incredible anger and bitterness and you have to have someone
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  to blame.
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  And a lot of times I think people blame Christians because they blame God.
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  And Christians are the tangible representative of God that they can go after.
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  And I think, honestly, like which said, it's demonic.
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  But it's also the person's own angry, sinful heart that is mad at God.
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  And I find that anger at God at the way he created them is really at the root of this.
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  Yep.
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  Because they're rebelling against God, their creator and the divine order of things.
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  That's right.
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  God is an orderly God, Satan is the author of confusion and the father of lies.
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  And here we have the culture we're living with today with so much, so many lies and confusion.
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  Another reason we need to all pray for wisdom in these days we're living in.
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  But anyway, Alora Perry, smalls, edonsredemption.org, I'm going to look at a couple different shirts
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  on your website.
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  I love the one that says rebuilt by God with the hammer and the anvil.
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  Love that.
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  But I also love that blue butterfly.
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  I'm going to get that for my wife.
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  But thank you so much for all you do.
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  And we're going to see you May 1st and 2nd in Green Bay at the World View Matters Conference.
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  I'm excited about that.
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  You're bringing your husband and your dog.
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  Yes, I have a service talk.
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  He's a golden retriever.
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  He loves everybody, so he will enjoy meeting him.
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  Awesome.
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  I can't wait to meet, of course, Perry, to see you guys in person.
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  But thanks for all you do.
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  Friends, pray for Laura's health, her protection and the advancement of her ministry.
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  We appreciate all you do, Laura.
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  Thanks for your time.
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  Thank you, God bless.
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  God bless.
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  Friends, thanks for watching, listening and sharing God bless you.
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  And as always, keep speaking the truth about things that matter.